"Struggle Packs"

Episode 202: In this episode, Mark is once again, joined by Hip Hop artist Toneyboi. We talk about his newest project  "Patience Pays", his work with Griselda, Tribe getting into The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the scene in upstate New York and what a struggle pack is. 

Check out Toneyboi music here- https://ditcdcom.bandcamp.com/album/patience-pays

Mark also does a new installment of "Infinite Torture", where he puts himself through the struggle of watching bad movies and talking about them. This torture segment assignment is to view the Marc Singer B flick "Cyber Zone". 


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Here it is another episode of the Infinite Advancer podcast.
I'm Mark Jalla, also known in DJ Soundway. Thanks for
checking out the show episode two hundred and two. Eventually,
I'll stop counting these because you know, I'm gonna forget
what number it is. But because two hundred was just
the two episodes before, I can't help remember where I'm

(00:53):
at in the number of these things. But anyway, thanks
for checking out the show. Got a fun one today,
got Tony Boy back on the show. Some of you
who've been listening to this show for a while might
remember him. Back in twenty twenty one, he came on.
Him and Gaines had an album out called Projects seventy seven. Well,
Tony Boy has a new album out now called Patience Pays.
We're gonna play a couple of tracks from that. Talk

(01:14):
to him about the concept of that album and much
more so. Stay tuned. Tony Boy's coming up very shortly,
talk about his new album, Patience Pays, and you know,
kind of on a whim here, I don't know I
was gonna do this, but I'm going to do an
infinite torture today. I had a movie in mind since
like last fall, early last fe I mean we're talking
like maybe September, and I wrote it down with the

(01:36):
idea that maybe do it, and I completely forgot about
it and it's still free onto be It's called the
Hell's this movie called Cyberzone or droid Gunner. It's got
multiple names for some reason. So stay tuned. That'll be
on the other side of the interview and everything with
Tony Boy towards the end of the episode. But it's

(01:59):
always we go backwards. We can't go forward with all
that other stuff until we take a look back at
the last episode and ox Omni was on to talk
about his album No Prayers to the Devil, And here's
a quick clip of that episode from ox Omni here
on the Infinite Banter podcast Flashbacks.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I've worked with multiple different producers on projects where I'm
taking beats from all over the place. I mean, that's
always fun, but it's definitely a different space when you
lock in with one producer and you're able to create
a full body of work. It's definitely an entirely different experience.
And Max was the perfect guy for this. One man
that's like, you know, that's really like my brother man

(02:39):
outside the music, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Big up to ox Omni for coming on the show.
Go check out that episode if he's not heard it yet,
and make sure you seek out his music on all platforms,
especially that new album No Prayers to the Devil with
producer ninety four Max. All right, let's get into it.
The new episode the Infinite Banter Podcast is about to begin.
We got an infinite torture for the movie Cyberzone. Get
ready for that, Oh God, and talking most importantly to

(03:06):
Tony Boy from Buffalo about his new album Patients Pay.
So stay tuned. All that's coming up here on the
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(03:29):
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Tony Boy is here infinite torture. But before we do anything,

(03:50):
the show never begins until one and only DMC gets on.
He says this, and the show begins.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yo, Yo, what's up?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
This is me DMC to Ki and Gee, the greatest
MC in history. And right now you're listening to Infinite
Banter because we will banter on forever, because this is
the only place for all of youall to ever be.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I be infinite bent.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So before we talk to Tony Boy, let's play a
track from that new album Patients Pays. This one right
here is called Breathe Easy with Mickey diamond one of
my favorite songs on the albums. Will definitely stay tuned
to hear this track. And we're gonna talk about this
album and much much more on the other side of this.
But here we go Tony Boy with Mickey Diamonds Breathe
Easy from the new album Patients Pays and coming up
or talk to the man himself about this album and

(04:37):
much much more. So here we go Tony Boy, Breathe Easy.
Here on the Infinite banch of podcast, Let's go.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Oh, I need my chest short delivery stress. Do you
feel to me.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
He stairs on full with from Italy flashy class four
P and Jordan was my stash nigga, I'm gonna smash
the first night and passed on the chivalry crashed the
rental feed these career in the injuries brush. I know
you lame niggas want to put an enemy. I'm praying
for my enemies. Gold Link Shining said, been here and
see at the route table started like the Genevie's getting

(05:17):
chopped in a whip that shine f Kennedy rappers claiming
they sick. My Browns provided the remedy. Remy and coach
hit me. Silk Cheery is coach with plenty to smoke.
If silly niggas really be pro so, don't provoke me.
Oh ross from the sea when they awoke me. Mick
Zilla technic clear thousand shaws, Oakley Truck at the Whiskey
ball sink and carry YOKEI my pitch pulled me on stage.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
We're supposed to be low key.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Whole gold bottles like Stanley Cup trophies. The next fifty
k y'all might donate the pro seeds. No I know
amongst thieves, eave say Lebron we shoot first.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's his bended and kids to received.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Prefeazy bang like Alejandro Madichi, nigga prefeezy y'all big like
a hundred d.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
West brought me on the road just to learn the roads,
rocking couple hundred dollars coats, pockets filled with smoke, got
the sense leaking out the zipper, so you know it's dope.
Been popping and populations, nigga. Everybody knows. I got a
way to stay prepared for heavybody blows. I got a
couple of pounds or sell them quick. They heavy on
the nose, lawyer, see getting on. They go so far
as everybody goes. I'm pretty tony. I don't spend no

(06:27):
brand on anybody who I was studying with the flow
point seven for the twenty y'all was heavy with the troll.
It was never drug money. Y'all just had a place
to go. Make sure my mama didn't know anytime. The
bills was lakers know the products moving slow?

Speaker 7 (06:41):
What something?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Nigga? Fuck all that. Niggas need to work shit.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Claiming you and your bag, but they ain't never bought
a burke, made a mistake. Brought me some place. I
started working was a skinny nigga, gave me some weight.
I'm feeling perfect. The godfather of this no one cooler
than then cool and mint encompassed with you niggas out here.
Choose you was just experience that you couldn't see this
nose paid his pays nigga from the load of the

(07:04):
the so brief easas you know the vibes Nigga Uncle
Tony in the motherfucker house, Nick you Donald.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
Came one pays nigga.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Pith.

Speaker 7 (07:31):
What's good man, it's your boy, Jamargasaw. I'm rocking with
the homye DJ Soundwave on Infinite Banter. Check in.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
You're tuned into the Infinite Banter podcast. I am DJ
Soundwave and I'm really hyped to bring on my guest.
Longtime listeners of this podcast should be familiar with his work.
He was a guest in twenty twenty one for his
project seventy seven EP with Gains is a new project
out now called Patients Pays. Welcome back to the show
to one only Tony Boy. What's up man?

Speaker 7 (07:58):
Peace? Please man? How you feel good?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Good man? It's always good to hear new music from
yourself and see what you're been up to It's been
like three years since I had you on the show
or so, so yeah, good to chop it up right
here and see how things are going. And this Patient's
Pays album. Man, it's a it's a real classic on
your hands. To talk about the concepts and what went
into is very laid back and soul for man, I
was really feeling it just talk about the idea of

(08:22):
putting this album together.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Well, it really kind of started with you know, me
and me and gains Is kind of talking and just
just really saying that we wanted to make our music
less aggressive, you know, because you know, the Upstate sound
is real right, real, you know, real tough, real, real dark.
So like we we had talked and just kind of
really wanted to go back to our roots, you know

(08:45):
what I'm saying, because we really loved Jay Dilla and
you know tribe called Quests and you know, all all
stars of rap.

Speaker 7 (08:51):
So that was really just like me trying.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
To follow my own gut with that, and I was
able to you know, pull some strings and get some
really dope artists on there and really just trying to
reformulate my sound.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's funny you say Dyla and Tribe because there's definitely
that feel and of course I was going to bring
it up. There's a track that you know, you hear
Tribe right at the beginning, God Lives Through and that
Tribe intro kind of got me geeked for that song,
and it's definitely one of my favorite songs on the album.
Like you just said, they were an influence, right, and
that that sound, that feel like that kind of laid back,
right boom bag sound.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
And even with that record too, that that was an
old like for me to Tribe called Cuts because you know,
they made it into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, right,
so that that was like, you know, me big up
in them.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's pretty cool. Yeah, you're doing that like in real
time too, because that just happened a couple of months ago,
and you know, Cleveland not far from where you're you know,
it's not around the corner, but you know.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Two and a half hours like crazy story.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Actually I got invited to the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame that they hit me up because they knew
we had a show with West oh Man, so they
invited me over, you know, got me tickets, walked me through.

Speaker 7 (09:55):
It was real cool.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
And then I want to say, the week after Tribe
got inducted, so like I was, you know, walking through
the Hall of Fame. You obviously inspired, So I got inspired,
you know, saw the Tribe. I actually bought Midnight my
writers on behind at the Hall of Fame, so like
I was really in the moment, so like like yeah,
I went home and you know, started chopping up the
record and that that was the record I had talked

(10:17):
about doing with el Biz for a long time, right,
and I called uh Napoleon, thought he was perfect for it,
and it just worked out.

Speaker 7 (10:24):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
There's a lot to unpack out of what you just said.
First of all, I've never been to the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. I've only been to Cleveland once
and it was like two thousand and eight, so it
was before hip hop was even like even your thoughts,
you know what I mean, like going in there, So
I never felt like that building matter to me, you know,
I don't. I don't know. I'm just being real, like
I didn't care what was in there, to be honest,
But now you know there's been so I can't even

(10:46):
so I probably forgot some of the ones that have
gotten in and it's becoming like every year.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
Surprised me how many people had got in. Like once
you like, you go through the first maybe I don't
know how many how many years they've been open, but
you know, saying maybe the first two thirds of you
know their existence, and then you go over to the
last third of it, and then you start seeing you know,
like you know, Tribe and Grand Master Flash and you
see all these really dope names that are really influencial

(11:12):
to us.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
So I was like, yo, this is really cool.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, it's dominating it almost. I even said on this
podcast before when Tribe went in and some other acts previously,
I always said that, like if they don't, because there's
always this debate like you should have belonged in there,
and I think that's nonsense, first of all. But the
whole idea is like, if you don't allow newer genres
to get in, you might as well just lock the doors,
because new music is never gonna sound like the stuff

(11:34):
that you know what I mean, I'm doing quotation marks.
You know. The haters are the people who feel like
what rock and roll is supposed to be, the music's
not getting made too much anymore, so you're not gonna
have any more inductees, is what I'm getting at. So
you know exactly, man, what's it like just being in there?
I mean you just said you saw, you know, graad
mess of flash and you know, like I'm running in
there and all that.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
Yeah, So, like like the way they haven't set up
now is that you actually start off with hip hop.
So like you go down to the first floor and
you go down there and they have like Big E's
clothes and EPM, D NWA. It's like it's not a
big section, but it's a lot to look at and read.
And then like you go through there and you walk

(12:12):
through a bunch of you know, it's like time based.
It starts off in like the nineteen thirties and you know,
and then it goes through these eras and then it
goes through genres.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
But it was it was really cool, really really It's
almost like you just told me, and I know you
didn't really mean it this way, like you sing, I
guess walk in and be done in like thirty minutes
and be out because it's at the beginning at first.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
See, at first, that's what I thought.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
I'm like, you know, I can just go to the
hip hop, and then like you know, you start digging
and looking for other things, and then like you know,
you start starting to find things you grew up on,
things your parents listen to, your grandparents listen to, and
then you know, then you just kind of get stuck
in the rabbit.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
Hole right right.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
And I know it sound like I'm being disrespectful. I
don't mean it that way. I'm being kind of silly
about it. But you know, that's my favorite music.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
I thought that I was going to be in and
out of there and thirty too, and like you know
what I'm saying, like go through, see what I gotta see,
get up out of there. It's actually cool because I
actually saw Ty Ferris. I don't know if you're familiar
with him from Detroit. He was in the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame too, So there you go take
it with him for a second.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
See, Yeah, you never know you're gonna run into there, right,
I mean you could. Who knew Q Tip might have
been in there because they were you know that week right?
Who knew who get standing in those hallways? Yeah? Man
and Midnight Marauders, I mean you could. You know, That's
always been an argument for me is it better than
Low End Theory? Like that's always the two albums you
kind of to mee the like.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
Always I kind of put them together because you know,
you look at the artwork and you know the colors
and all that go together.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
I look at as one continuous album.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's smart, man, because then you don't get into those debates, right,
you know, people like arguing with you, like which one's better.
I always looked at it as, Man, I don't know
how to say this. Low in Theory has the better songs,
but Mina Marauders is the better album. If I had to,
like really, I would agree with that if I had
a nitpick it, you know what I mean, Like it's
but that's like saying do I like pepperoni or sausage pizza?
I mean, it doesn't whatever, and I'm good either way.

(13:53):
It doesn't matter. Uh man. And another thing going to
bring up because you talked about it at the beginning.
There the area you're up, you know, upstate New York,
you know Rochester, Buffalo, Niagara, you know with Jamal Gasol
and everything, And man, I don't know about you, but
I'm in Chicago, and from an outsider looking in, I
feel like that's where hip hop is really living right now.
It's upstate New York.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
Yeah, I mean like we're doing a good job at
you know, holding holding the torch right now. But also
like you can also hear some of the undergrounder's starting
to you know, branch out and do other sounds too,
cause like you know, like the underground can only.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
Get you so far.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
That's true.

Speaker 7 (14:29):
Like I've been working with Gasol a lot this past year.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
I signed to deal with him, so like we've just
been basically he gave me like free reigns to not
have to be super underground, super aggressive with it, you know. So,
and it's a it's a cool thing to watch. It's
a real cool thing to watch. I was working with
Conway last night and he did some some different stuff,
So like it's just definitely cool to watch how it's
evolved and where it's at.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, man, And you could even say Griselda years ago,
they set the template for how to do you know,
legit underground independent hip hop without you know, going too
far one way or too far the other way. And
they showed you there's a lane for that, you know
for sure. And you know, Gasol, man, he's a beast.
He's been on the podcast a couple of times, and
he's been doing this thing. He's on the album. He's

(15:13):
got that quick spot on there. Talk about what it
means for you to have Gasol just kind of you're
putting that stamp of approval on your album, right.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Man, It means a lot because like you always look
for validation from your peers, and me and Gasol, I
would say if I didn't take a break wrapping a
couple of years off or whatever, I would probably be
in the same pedestal, same groove that he was working
because that's how me and him became friends and seeing
each other in the same places.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
So it's been a pleasure to work with Gasol. Man,
that's my dog. And like me and him got a.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
Lot more work in the future coming. He'll be on
tour with me for a couple of dates. But Jay
skis actually we're coming to Chicago. I don't think he'll
be with me there though, But yeah, like we just
got a bunch of motion going and I think that
that was like the perfect the perfect place with me
to sign a deal to because he don't got to
worry about me and I don't got to worry about
him and then when we come together, we're gonna knock

(16:06):
down the wall.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
That's what's up. And that's like the album cover. You know,
it's like breaking down the wall to get to the price.
That's what I like about the cover. Man, There's like,
you know, one once got the dynamite and it just
blow it up with the other ones has been working
hard and digging and digging. Right, Yeah, talk about that
cover since I just brought it up. Man, was that
kind of the idea is like how hard it his
patients pays? Like, right, You've got to keep going through
to get to that that end of the you know,

(16:27):
the journey of the work, right.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
So like I actually had like went on social media
to ask like a few of the fans like, yo,
like what what what does the term patience pays mean
to you?

Speaker 7 (16:38):
Like visually?

Speaker 6 (16:39):
And my one homemie that I grew up with, he
wrote me an inbox and was like, Yo, remember that
game back in the day, the Jewel High Vibeline. I
was like, Yo, that is the perfect man. You made
that joint happen.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, I was thinking dig Doug. But that's like an
old reference because I'm from like the eighties, so that's
that's like an old time game. But yeah, that one
you said is much better reference for the younger cats
out there. That that's a that's a great way to look.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
At it, man.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
And yeah, and that dynamite too. It looks like when
he blows it, it's not going to be a good
on both sides. Yeah, man, it's crazy. I love that cover. Man,
a salute salute for that. And you just said you're
coming to Chicago. When is that happening? Do you know
the days I believe that will be.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
It's at the end of February. I think it's the
twenty something.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
All right, gotcha. Definitely check on your socials because we'll
see you. I'm sure posting about it and all that.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
Yeah, for sure. We got five cities.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
We started off in Cleveland, then we go to Toronto.
We got Boston after that, then Chicago, and then we
go to Denver.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
There's a lot of cool cities in there. I mean
they're not like right next to each other either, You're
kind of spread out there.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So Chicago's the February twenty eighth, last.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
Day of the month.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's what's up. Everybody, listening to the Chicago area. Go
check them out. If you're in Denver or Toronto or Boston,
make sure you go check out Tony Boy and Man.
That should be a hell of a show. Definitely.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Oh yeah, Wills got a real dope set.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, I bet Man and he's on this album. I
mean he's that's Yeah, that's another song I wanted to
bring up. I had to get props because you mentioned
I'm in Chicago. I'm a Bears fan. He says, Cale
Williams and Cold Comet.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
I was like, whoa col Comette?

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, I rewinded it because I the Cold Comet one
is the one that like stuck out, like who the
hell references col Comet? And I rememberind like, YO, salute
to him because bearsn't due too good this year. But
you know, Lisa got on your album.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
But Skis is uh, he's really good at finding those
football players with those names and throwing them in there.
I remember like he had a bar about Leviscous years ago.
Nobody's doing that, you know what I'm saying, Like, nobody
even knows who Leviscous is anymore.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Unless you got him like your fantasy team or something.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
No, idea, right, you know, and and that track it's
called Risk Taker, and I wanted to give you both
props because it's a little quicker pace, right, I mean,
you guys switch up the style a little bit and
it's it's a little bit faster than the other the
tracks and your flow, you know, you definitely kicked it
up a notch.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
Yr Skis always does that for me though. There's a
record that me and him did on one of his tapes. Uh,
I can't remember it was one. I think it was
with Barbara Oscillert. It's called Stolen Bens and he made
me rap fast on that too, So like it's just
kind of a thing, like I don't know, me and
Skis have so many records together that you know, we've
done a regular pace that like now is just kind
of like how can.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
We push it and still keep it, you know, within
in the pocket.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Right right man? And that just shows your versatility as
an MC, right that you could do a faster pace,
go back, you know, fall back to your regular style
or you know what, however you want to do it.
You're flipping on them at any moment.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
A lot of people listening, maybe they don't know you
do studio work. I mean, you're not just somebody puts
out music. Just let heads know about all the things
that you can do when it comes to making music
and working with you know, like you talked about west
Side and Conway and all that, you do a lot
more work than just bars.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Yeah, So I am an engineer by trade, so you know,
I went to school study mixing and mastering.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
So I'll work a lot with Conway mostly west Side.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
Gun flew me out to work on Pray then you
pray for us. I worked a lot with Bennie in
the past. That's actually how I got the relationship with Gasella.
Working with Bennie and Camouflaged Monk is like my brother.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
Then I'm also like, I'm a touring DJ.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
So I've toured with Etho, If toured with Damn a
bunch of people, but right now by the tour with
Skis and and I get to rap in a couple
of cities.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
But I'm also what else you did? Rap? I produced?

Speaker 6 (20:30):
I've produced for Camino, I produced for Skis, a bunch
of local Buffalo rappers, produced for a lot.

Speaker 7 (20:38):
For Dante up in Canada from Falcon Crest.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
So yeah, I get busy man, Like I'm always busy man.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
And that's probably a good thing too, because it always
keeps you working. Right, if you have a preference, would
you prefer just to do music or do you have
a studio vibe that you always want to do that more?
Where do you usually leave?

Speaker 6 (20:58):
I mean, like, one of my my goals is to
be able to like make music at at a level
to where I don't have to really worry about things.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
But you know, like I'm an adult like everybody else.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
I got bills to pay, so I got you know,
I gotta find ways to do that. So that's honestly
how I started producing and really DJing because I wanted
to still work, you know, within hip hop.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
And make money.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
So I'm like DJing and producing this Like those dudes
are getting money right now, Rappers don't always get the money.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Right And that's smart too, because obviously there's always something
for you to do. It's not like you're just you know,
writing lyrics and putting putting out songs and hoping that
it works out. You've got other things you could be
doing at the same time. And I'm guessing at the
same time. It helps put your album together even better
because you know how. So it's a sound and how
to craft and how to put out together.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
Right, Oh yeah for sure, because like you, I mean,
I'm a fly on the wall in all these sessions.
So I'm hearing somebody lay down a cadence or you
know what I mean, or like something that like that,
I like that catches my ear. I might not go
mock it, but it's a you know, I might go
take a piece of that idea and you know, flip
it into something I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
See that, And that's what it all comes back to.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Man.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
It's just you're just around it, absorbing it all, man,
And we could all be so blessed to be around
people that inspire us to do things, and and you
get to do better at your own craft as well
as you know, work with them and they need you
as well. It's not just you're just there, you know,
helping out. You're actually really good at what you do
behind the scenes. So you know, salute man. And I
wondered that, Yeah, no doubt, man, I wanted to bring

(22:28):
up Buffer time and then it might be my favorite
song on the album or man, it's you're speaking a
lot of truth on that one, and the beat just
kicks hard. I know you talked about Tribe and Dilla earlier.
It kind of has like a nineties feel to it,
and I can't lie. I'm an old head, so you know,
those kind of songs always get in my pocket easy,
you know what I mean. But they talk about that track, man.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
So that track actually was supposed to go on an
album that I'm working on with Dante up in Toronto.
And what happened with that is we started working on
new songs and went back to revisit the old songs
and that one he wasn't really feeling his verse, but
he made the beat for it. So I was like, well, like,
instead of us just scrapping this song, I really like

(23:08):
my verse, right, so I'm gonna find a way to
like I'm gonna put somebody else on this or however.
But then I ended up finding that clip about you know, patients,
and like how long it takes, I'm like, okay, word,
I'm just gonna put this clip on the end of
this song and boom.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
There you go. Now you got production credits a man.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
And when I was listening to hers, like, man, I
need another verse. I was thinking that too, But then,
like you just said, I was sicking. No, he probably
had this this person doing the talking at the beginning
in the end to kind of bookend it that that
that is kind of like the second verse in a sense.
But yeah, so now I understand why you're only now
there's only one verse. Actually I get it.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Now, yeah, because I literally tried to write a second verse.
But I wrote that first verse maybe a year ago,
you know what I'm saying, So it was hard for
me to like connect what I was writing at the
moment into that verse.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
So I gotta say, forget.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
It, right, right, you already you already had it mixed.
You don't want to throw too much in the pot,
right and then it just it doesn't work anymore. It
just don't force it. You know, you've already had something
there that worked. And yeah, I was definitely feeling it, man,
So one verse, three verses doesn't matter. Everybody listening to
make sure you seek out that track later on in
the album. And I want to give a shout out
to Gaines Man because he's on here as well. I

(24:15):
know that your partner man, you guys do a lot
of work together. Talk about having him on this album,
on that teck with all the spinners on all right.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
So that track is actually really unique because everybody on
that track I'm related to. So Gains is my brother,
Skate is my brother. Actually, well Roll Cook he's not,
he's not related, but he's been. He's a family friend.
So and then my cousin made the beat, and then
my other little cousin's on the hook.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
So like that was just a day.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Man.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
I booked some studio time called everybody through and we
just made a record, and that one was so good
that I was like.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
Yeah, like I'm holding onto this one. So I think
we did like five songs that day. I'm like, yeah,
I'm holding onto that.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
And that was just like that was literally a whim
of a track. I can't say that I had an
idea for that. My cousin came through, play the beat.
We picked in my little cousin like hey, I gotta hooked,
and everybody just started writing yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Man, I mean it's like, you know, it's like an
old school posse cut. You just say, everybody gets on
and does their thing like the symphony or something. Right,
you don't really need a whole concept. Necessarily, it's just
you know, people writing and bringing their their their they're
all to it. That's so you said there's other songs
that were made from that session. So those songs are
they still out there somewhere? Are they coming out?

Speaker 7 (25:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (25:24):
So another one of those songs that we did that
came out. I had dropped the project in April of
last year. That's on Weekend at Tony's that's called All Love,
Oh okay. And then I got one more that I'm
holding on to that I'm probably gonna put on another
project for being games.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
But yeah, I got a bunch of stuff, a bunch.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Of records, and it's not hard to book family, right,
not at all.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
I better not get an invoice.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Right yeah, or don't say I'm too busy, Like I
know what you're doing. I know where you go every
day and you could come.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's great, man, And it really shines through on that
track because everybody brings their A game on it, and
you know, I gotta I got to go back to
your Weekend at Tony's album. I saw the call, I
saw it's on band camp and then the cover for
it is crazy, you know, obviously people know that movie
back then it's hilarious. But Weekend at Bernie's or whatever.
But back to the album, another track I really wanted

(26:23):
to bring up was Breathe Easy with Mickey Diamond. I mean,
that's another one where all right, I feel like the
back half of the album really kind of was for
the Boom bab Heads too.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Right, Yeah, for sure, for sure. The Mickey Diamond dry Man,
I was just a fan, so I.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
Reached out, you know, Camo Monk my boy, they did
some projects together, so I reached out to him, figured
out the price, and we made it happen, and then
that record.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
Did pretty well. Now me and Mickey are pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
So there you go. You get him on another project
or work with something down the line.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'm actually gonna shoot a video for that.
Eventually asked you to get off to Controit.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Oh Man, So yeah, there you go. Exclusive everybody you know,
make sure you check that out when it drops. I
was I was gonna ask you about videos from the album.
Is that the only one you've got in mind? Or
are some other ones you're thinking about.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
I'm going to shoot one for Pages Pays and I'm
probably gonna shoot one for risk Takers the Skis record too.

Speaker 7 (27:14):
The only reason I didn't shoot them.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
I had got some like weird pneumonia COVID thing a
few weeks ago, so I was down for like two weeks.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
So now I'm back up and healthy.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh okay, good man. I wasna say, because you got
a lot coming up here to do, you got to
be one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Right, Yeah, for sure, for sure, I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
You're all right, dude. And uh, another track I wanted
to bring up his Struggle Packs. That was another one
that stood out to me talk about that song.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
So struggle Packs, that's actually like probably one of my
favorite songs off of there, because like that's a real
story of me and my boy.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
My boy Heill produced that age and him.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
We lived in Florida when I was going to school,
and we would go try to find some cheap beer,
nothing too crazy, and they only had four packs of PBRs.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
So man, we called them struggle packs. So that that's
how the title came, like like where's the six pack?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
You can't get a six pack of PBR or like no, like.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
You can get a four pack though, So we called
those struggle.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
Packs because like if you hear on the song, I say,
one up in the cooler, bring like, where's the other two?
One up in the cooler, bring them here, like I
want the other two beers.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I what if they do it like that because they
want you to buy eight, because they know that six
might be enough, so they do we Yeah, see there
it is, and we did. Pbr Man, that's like that.
That's like that beer when you first turn twenty one
or something that you you know, oh yeah, we.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
Were like twenty five, you know. We we were just
doing our.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Twenties, cheap trash. But it gets the job done if
you do like four each or whatever. Just be peeing
a lot. But that's about it.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Pbr ansored peing be right back.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
Or something that I've never heard that one.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I like that just made it up. I don't even
know if it fits. I think I got tony letters
in there. But that's what's struggle packs, all right, I'm
using I'm writing that down.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
Man, I'm starting.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I don't really drink that stuff. But if the day
ever comes, where.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
If it ever comes, and you know that that's a
struggle pack. Yeah, man, you know you my money's alone,
like shit, man, I can only get this this four
pack right now.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's great, dude. Man, if I'm come with anything is
that I thought more about music of course, But yeah,
well I'll definitely keep that in the back pocket.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Talking about the production on this album, so obviously you
worked on it a lot. Who are the other contributors
production wise?

Speaker 6 (29:30):
So I did like four beats on there, and then
actually my boy who I was just talking about age,
he did like another four or five on there. He
did the skis joints, struggle packs, pages pays, he did
the outro, so he was a real intechful part to
you know, to the sound of like you know where
it was going sonically.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
And then Camel Monk did the Mickey Diamond joint.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
And I have my cousin do the one beat with
all my all my boys and my cousins and so.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
It's a pretty pretty simple shape forward.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
Like I tried not to reach out to too many
people for this one production.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Wise, and it sounds like, you know, now that you've
even said that, it seems like it's more of a
like an inner circle type project that you put together
here and even if your sister on the track too,
So I mean there's a lot going on, you know, uh,
with your your family and friends that are close to you,
as opposed to, like you said, reaching out for people
maybe you're not that familiar with or you know, something
like that.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Even the intro with LT like he used to be
signed to uh rough Riders back in the day and
he had toy with depth, poetry, dream and like, so
like he's a real prominent figure in Buffalo. So to
the few people in Buffalo that noticed it right off
the rip, they're like, yo, deal, Latif on the intro
is you know that's powerful?

Speaker 7 (30:45):
So like every everything had a place. Everything definitely had
a place.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Man, I gotta look him up. I remember watching those
you know, Saul Williams as when that we stood out.
But I'm sure there's a I forgot about him. Man,
it's been a minute since I've caught any of those
that was like a you know, a big that kind
of blew up in the early two thousands, late nineties,
right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah man, what's uh what's coming
up next? I know you've got you know, you already
talked about you've got songs in that one session that
you might have coming out, So what else could people

(31:10):
look for? Obviously with you going on tour that that's
going on, and what else would you musically?

Speaker 7 (31:15):
So me and Gains, I don't know if you caught
it when we dropped it before.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
We had dropped Project eight on band camp a while ago, right,
but now we put that up on all streaming, so
that's available to everybody.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
And then I have well, I.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Guess it's going to be an EP with my boy
Dante up in Toronto. That'll be like a six to
seven track EP. Then I have a right now, I
think it's fifteen tracks. It's a compilation that I produced,
so that has a bunch of local Buffalo artists that
I really like working with. That'll be dropping.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
First quarter, and then I might come on features with Gasol.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
I got a few deaths. You'd be dropping on his product. Yeah,
I'm just all over the place, man, right, but those
two for sure, I'll be dropping first quarter.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
That's what's up, man. And it's probably hardy key crack
of We're going to be for all these things, right,
it's so much happening. But yeah, that tour is gonna
be crazy, man. Those are some cities I've been to
a couple of them. That should be a hell of
a tour. Man, all you guys going to these places
and doing shows, Man, that's gonna be something.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
Yeah, and the openers are are phenomenal, So it's definitely
gonna be a dope show.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Right And for people listening, how can they find the album?
Follow you online like Instagram, up places like that and merch.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
All that so on Twitter and Instagram both the same
as I am Tony Boy t O n E y
b O. I you need me merch, hit me up
on Instagram.

Speaker 7 (32:35):
I'll get right back to you. Find all the music
on all the streaming platforms, and you can find some
deep cuts.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
At band camp Tonyboy dot band camp dot com and
that's really it.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, there's a lot there. I mean I got to
get to that weekend at Tony's. I saw it on
band camp, but I didn't get a chance to play it. Yeah,
but that's definitely on the list of stuff I need
to make sure I'm familiar with, and everybody listening make
sure you go check out Patients. Pays Man is out
dope as hell, man. I mean when you said Dylan
try at the beginning, I was like, Okay, I had
that feeling in my head, but I wasn't one hundred
percent sure if that's some of the inspiration. But when

(33:09):
you say in it and made it, made it official, like, Okay,
I see where he's going with this.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
Man, Well I'm glad you listened that we're able to
pick that out.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, man, of course, yeah, definitely. I mean I'm a
tribe head, you know, dil of course all of that.
So as soon as I heard, I'm like, yeah, I
could feel something coming out of this with that kind
of vibe.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
But we all need patients, man, because we want that
paper fast whatever. But whatever you're chasing, you know, whether
it's you know, likes or whatever, which shouldn't chase those.
But man, big up for coming through on the podcast
once again.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Hopefully won't be three or four years the next time
you come back on, but.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
Big we'll have another one this year, for sure, oh.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Man, big up.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Everybody make sure you go check out Tony boys new album,
Patience Pays. It's out right now on all platforms, and
check them out on all the streaming places for other
stuff that he's done and sitting near you if you
live out in Denver, Toronto, like I do in Chicago.
Make sure you find a way to go see him.
Many got for coming through, man, I appreciate you doing this.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
Man. Oh thanks for having me Bro, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Big big up to Tony Boy for coming back on
the show. Definitely have to keep an eye out for
when he comes out to Chicago to do that show.
See if I can link up with him and check
them out. Definitely want to do that. And once again
he can record an interview on here and there's sirens
going on during a portion of the interview both times,
by the way, not on my end, on their end.
But as I said in the last episode, I lived

(34:25):
pretty close to a firehouse. I am surprised that it
does not happen more often, but thankfully record these things,
and I would just delete it if it was that
big of a problem and just re record the parts.
So you know, you guys would never know if it
happened unless it was like very MINIMALI you can barely
hear in the background. So enough rambling about sirens in
the background. Let's get into another track from Patients pays

(34:48):
This track right here, it's called Struggle Packs. Now, me
and Tony Boy talked about this a four pack of PVR,
right those really cheap beers that it called a piss
be right back or whatever. So go ahead, grab yourself
a four pack a PBR and listen to this track
right here Struggle Packs from the new album from Tony
Boy Patience Pays here on the Infinite Banter podcast. On

(35:11):
the other side of this, we'll get an infinite Torture
with cyber Zone. All right, stay tuned for that as well.
That'll be another version of Struggle Pack. That'll be Struggle Movie.
That thing was difficult anyway. Here we go Struggle Pack
from Tony Boy here on the Infinite Banter podcast.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Back outside Nigga dea Art Delay.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, yeah, what.

Speaker 8 (35:49):
You know about them? Struggle packs. Believe hey, y'all, you wasn't.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Dead when we couldn't afford a bed for packs of PBR.
To me, this shit is weird. Where's the other two
grown up in the cooler?

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Bring him here?

Speaker 6 (36:09):
This bunskin bustaball been building up by tolerance for years long,
the Tales of Cimarron.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
For thirty six with slim Picks and Chicks to get
it done.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
After the first month, most of the niggas going has struggle,
pack parties and litters form pages page, the fans getting
mad that I ain't get.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
It to him.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
I took a leap of faith and channeled on my
dreams out on travel city. This city your loan, because
that's my thing. You might catch me checking your section
of zone buffer some green pumping Jill Scott. Think about
what song that I'm gonna sing? Keep my jorder once
clean and my fade on point some prak of Bruski
when you play this joint, Uncle Tony in the house
that ron me wrong? Was most of these niggas ain't

(36:44):
got it? But Uncle tone does? This is all to
give dope, these bars and known drugs. The realist ones
be asking nigga, what's to hold up? They see me
cooking in the kitchen, now show much I had to
learn how to make bread out of these cold cuts
on the nineties, still spending. They'll donuts if they ain't
got the door, what go nuts? If they approach us
Like most books they taught us to school, know they line,

(37:07):
you can't get access to the room. Dog, if you
ain't buying, what's the science?

Speaker 7 (37:12):
Get your money up?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Dog? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Bring that six packs? You can't get access to the room.

Speaker 9 (37:17):
Dog if you ain't buying, if you really got to
bring thathing books dogs know they line.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
Yo, niece, space cannons.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
You listening to infinite banner and my man DJ sound
when listening to that.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
Tune in all the time refrigerat on.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
You may I have your attention these infinite job You
don't think I didn't watch them.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
I remember the No, of course you did. Of course
you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
You can have called up bad, but out actually can't
attention to you.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
I do that pretty much all the time. So I disagree.
You're you're a terrible person. Yeah it was. It was
fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
There you go. But that's the way he sum it up.

Speaker 7 (38:47):
Complete garbage.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Cool camp.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
You're making me feel like the greach because I had
all this hate in my heart for Vanilla. I saw
these years, thirty something years and now you get.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
Yeah, I'm just blowing you up to him, like, oh well,
maybe wouldn't let me go this nice?

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Let me go watch the movie.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
That in the Ice movie and.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Cool as Ice or something.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
You know it is called because you you went seen it.
You went, you've seen it, you went and seen it.
You know what is called you know it is called.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
This whole thing can lead not only do you know
what is called?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
You is the opening day?

Speaker 7 (39:24):
All right? You?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, he said in a Star Wars poster. I really
have to tool as ice.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, with the motorcycles, the old ship. Yeah, you've seen
it too, Hell yeah twice.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
You got the You've got the Blu ray and the
and the special director's Hell.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Yeah, due, And I'm trying on give my comy autogram,
get out.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
Of here, complete garbage, infinite job.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Here. It is another edition of infinite torture. I haven't
done one of these since Halloween came a Holocaust, so
I don't think it's been that long. It's been like
three months. But to do one of these things definitely
take some efforts because I've got to sit and watch
this thing, take notes about it, and then ramble on

(40:18):
here for five to ten minutes about it. So a
little bit of background here. Shout out to my guy Rudy,
who listens to every episode. I've known him a long time.
I don't even know how we started talking about this movie,
but it was texting me about something. Somehow this movie
came up. I think I was talking about horrible Mark
singer movies or something. Not sure why, but I said that, well,
I've actually seen this movie before, but it's been so

(40:42):
long it's like I barely remember it. And I was
just like, you know, break some rules here and I'll
just make it an infant torture segment. So I wrote
it down with the idea of doing it someday, and
I was going through my old notes. I've been scrambling
around the last couple of months, you know, with everything
going on with me personally, so found the note. It's like,
you know what, it's still on TV. Let's watch this

(41:02):
damn thing before they remove it. They probably won't because
it's such a bad movie that it means nothing from
to put it on there. It's probably public domain. I
have no idea. So the movie is called see Okay,
here's the thing. I always thought it was called Pleasure Droids.
That's the premise of the movie, by the way. So
I had to look it up because I really didn't

(41:23):
know what the movie was called. It says cyber Zone,
but on IMDb it says droid Gunner. Not a good
sign for a movie if you don't even know what
the title of the thing is called. But you can
find it on two BTV. Look up cyber Zone doesn't
really help explain what the movie's about. I think Pleasure
Droids is a better way to describe it because it's

(41:44):
basically sci fi porn. So here we go, nineteen ninety five,
this movie came out. This is, by the way, the
second time I've done this for a Mark Singer movie.
I did beast Master, I don't know, maybe a couple
of years ago. Just in case you didn't listen to
that episode where I talk about beast Master. I am
a huge Mark Singer fan, and this is why I'm
watching this shitty movie because I watched it back in

(42:04):
the nineties and now it's just because I'm a fan
of him. I'm a fan of v and other things
that he's done, So you know, it pains me to
put him in this category. But he did a lot
of B movies and straight to video if you remember
that era, movies, Like he didn't do big budget stuff
because he was kind of put in this box of
only being this kind of actor. But I personally think

(42:25):
he's awesome and would love to have him on the
podcast and have taken a picture with him at a
comic book convention, So let me just get that out
the way. I am not here to bash Mark Singer.
I think he's cool as hell, but he makes some
really bad movies, this being one of them. Cyberzone, droid gunner,
pleasure droids, whatever you call it, that's what this is.
And this takes place in Phoenix, post apocalyptic Phoenix in
twenty seventy seven, so they're putting it ahead like eighty

(42:49):
something years in this fantasy world. And the premise is
the West Coast is gone. I don't really like talking
about that with current times, but California, Oregon, and Washington
apparently go to the bottom of the ocean because of earthquakes,
and Los Angeles becomes something called New Angelus, which is
some sort of like Atlantis, like some sort of underwater city.

(43:11):
And I saw this back in the nineties when it
came out. I don't remember how I watched it. It
probably was on USA Up All Night or something like that.
Maybe it was on Cinemax. This would have been right
in my wheelhouse because I would have been like nineteen
twenty years old when this came out. And you know,
there's a lot of skin porn in this. You know,
there's a lot of topless nude stuff in here, so

(43:33):
it probably would have passed by me eventually and I
would have left it on, like oh this Mark Singer,
Oh there's naked girls. Okay, where's the popcorn? Keep it on?
That is probably what happened. They don't keep it on,
but I kept it on, and it probably was on
USA up all night, one of those. It's definitely like
something I would have been on there a lot. This

(43:54):
would have been great as a double feature with Hell
Comes to Frogtown. Anybody knows what that movie is. That's
Roddy Piper in a post apocalyptic time walking around like
a gunslinger guy with a lot of like you know,
TNA stuff happening. Such a stupid movie that it's very
similar to that. And in this world there's no like

(44:15):
civilization or of normal society anything like that. But there
are lots of strip clubs because that's the only place
that they ever go to. It's the background for like,
you know, almost every important scene is in this one
strip club. There's no parks, there's no streets. There's just
alley ways and some bureaucrat behind a desk in a

(44:37):
nice office. But that's it. I don't film it in
anything else. Mark Singer's character, he's apparently he's a bounty
hunter and he ends up in this strip club after
he kills some droid terminator guy and puts his head
in a bag. He shows up at this strip club
and there's some guy just like a pirate who's serving him.
He's just like a pirate for no reason. So Mark

(44:58):
singers in this strip club. He's bothering his pirate guy.
He's got some head in a bag, and he wants
to meet the main bad guy to turn in his
bounty whatever. Then it cuts to some space battle which
you know comes out of nowhere, and some guy with
muscles and long blonde hair kind of looks like Lex
Luger or something. He's smuggling pleasure droids and he says

(45:20):
it like three times, and I can't stop laughing. I
think if I took a shot every time someone's aid
pleasure droids in his movie, I would have been drunk,
because that's all they say, which is why I think
it's movie should be called that. But he's smuggling them
to New Angelus, where they're mayor or whatever the hell
he is. He wants to buy them because everybody needs
some vice in his city because he cleaned it up

(45:43):
so good that they need something to you know, get themselves,
you know, excited when they come home from a hard
day of work in New Angelus in the water. It's
it's a stupid premise, but I'm watching it. I call
the dude smuggling the pleasure droids. He's a space pimps,
riding around in his you know, his buick spaceship and
he's got four hookers in his robot hookers in his spaceship,

(46:08):
and he's bringing them to LA. It's so stupid. So
there's like a cheeseball space battle. I don't even know
who's fighting who. I don't know why they're fighting him.
Whatever he survives, he gets to Earth. I don't even
know where he's coming from. I don't know what these
pleasure droids come from. I don't know if they're made
on Mars. This is so dumb. Mark Singer is sleeping

(46:31):
in his bachelor pad and he has a message on
his answering machine. So in twenty seventy seven, he has
an old fashioned beep answering machine. Some guy's voices on
there saying come to this building. Yeah, I got a
job for you or something. Technology hasn't. We've got women

(46:51):
walking around his robots, but we can't get answering machines
further advanced than your old school answering machine from the eighties,
in the early nineties or whatever it was. Now, finally
there's son. About thirty minutes in the movie's son finally
shows up. It's been dark, it's like got them throughout
the whole movie or the crow, and now there's some son. Finally,

(47:11):
this is this guy behind a desk. He hires Mark
Singer's character and he says, I need you to find
the pleasure droids. I don't know why this is so
critical of all the things going on. You've got states
that are in the bottom of the ocean, and you
got havoc in the streets. But pleasure droids, man, that's
really what's more important than anything. Get them droids. So
he has to take on this female partner that works

(47:34):
with this guy behind the desk, and she's unwilling to
do it, but she'll go out and to the slums
of Phoenix and look for these pleasure droids. There's some
crime boss that Mark Singer brings that head to from
earlier in the movie to get his payday on. The
guy's name is mister Chuba, and he looks like it

(47:59):
looks like Marlon Brando, just this slob on a chair
with like a bunch of topless girls dancing around. It
felt like Java's palace because he's sitting there with a
chair and scanty women dancing in front of him. And
Mark Singer's character walks in there looking like, you know,
Han Solo or something. I guess he's Boba Fett in
this regard because he's bringing a bounty to Java. And

(48:21):
by the way, the guy who hires Mark Singer to
go get the pleasure droids he looks like Robert Guley.
I know it's not him. I had to look at
the cast see if it was, but it's not Robert Gulay,
but he kind of looks like him. But yeah, now
it's a buddy film because Mark Singer and this girl
there now together. She doesn't want to be with him
because you know, he's a rough guy. He smells like
bot oil they keep saying whatever that means, and he

(48:43):
smokes and he's you know, he's grizzled, and she doesn't
like being out in the slums, so you know, it's
your typical buddy cop film here. So then he takes her.
I don't know, this doesn't make any sense. I guess
he's trying to find the pleasure droids and he has
some sort of like Ghostbusters handheld thing that beeps when
it gets close to one. So they go to a
brothel and he talks her into like, hey, why don't

(49:06):
you see if they can give you an application? And
while you're doing that, I'll go to every door and
hold this thing up to it to see if it beeps.
So that happens. It's so stupid. And then of course
she has to change her clothes because you know, she
can't look like a bureaucrat anymore. She's walking outside looking
like one of the pleasure bots. And for some reason,

(49:27):
chewba Jaba wants to hunt down Mark Singer's character. Doesn't
it really explain why? He just does because he's in
with the guy running New angelis he following so far?
And he hires some goon to try to take them
out in an alleyway, and of course she knows Judo
and everything, so she takes them out no problem, and
they end up again at the Strip Club. They're there

(49:48):
again with the pirate guy, and there's this terminator dude
who kind of looks like Arnold. He's got blonde hair
though he's like a Dolph Lungern terminator, you know, he's
got the accent and everything. He shows up to take
Mark Singer down a fight into some sort of melee.
Not really the greatest bar fight I've ever seen. They
do have FaceTime in this future. They do have video talking,

(50:11):
so that's something that at least in nineteen ninety five
and they made this movie, they at least foresaw that
kind of technology. So you are able to talk to
somebody through a video. But other than that, yeah, they
still have answering machines, probably on cassette. They leave the
Strip club after they beat up the the blonde terminator guy,
and there's a gunfight with a helicopter. It's not very exciting.

(50:34):
Mark Singer's character shoots up at the helicopter. I think
it blows up. I don't really know what happens, but
he somehow gets shot. Now this part made me laugh
because I'm a huge Predator fan. And she goes to him,
oh my god, you're bleeding or something's that effect, and
he goes, I don't have time to bleed. I was like,
wait a minute, what is this. There are a few

(50:56):
homages to other movies. This would be obviously one of them.
This is clearly a wink and a nod to Predator.
The Star Wars stuff. To me is pretty clear as well.
There's another one later on. I'll mention that's blatantly obvious,
but I'll get there. So they go back to Mark
Singer's crib so he can have his own like blue
Cross Blue Shield treatment of his own with his gunshot.

(51:19):
And he just asked for the Jack Daniels and a
pair of pliers, and she keeps saying, let's go to
a hospital. And I'm sitting here thinking like, are there
hospitals because all this seems to be a strip clubs
and alleys. But apparently there are hospitals still in Phoenix.
But he drinks some Jack Daniels, he pours it on
the hole in his chest, he grabs some plyers and
passes out. Healthcare in America. I see it still sucks

(51:43):
in the future. This part was another, you know, winking
a nod to a movie. So the guy smuggling the
Pleasure Droids. He's trying to dock his ship and he's
asked for a code and he says, it's Lucas Solo
for one one. Okay, he went there. I had to
rewind because I couldn't. I'm like, did he just say
what I thought?

Speaker 7 (52:02):
He said?

Speaker 1 (52:03):
All right, and thankfully have it on captions. It's not
that I'm hard of hearing or anything, but sometimes I
put it on captions just because the audio is so
bad or the acting is so bad. I need be
able to read what they're saying. And I left it
on for this and it made me laugh because every
time the music changed, it would say intriguing music. That'd
be like when the pleasure bots are getting all, you know, horny,

(52:26):
they'd play it would say intriguing music. Or whenever he
was fighting, it would say exciting music. It's like the
music wasn't exciting or intriguing. It was pretty dull. I
barely even knew there was music until you mentioned it
captions things. By the way, Mark Singer's character looks a
lot like AJ Styles. There's my other wrestling reference. He's
got a beard, he's got the dark brown hair, kind

(52:49):
of long in the back. It totally looks like him.
Only wrestling nerds like myself would even understand that reference.
But go ahead and look it up. I dare you
look it up. Go look up cyber Zone and AJ styles.
I know you have the time, do it. I just
wrote here this is porn. It's basically all it is.
There's a lot of toplessness and girls undressed, and I

(53:10):
don't know what the hell this movie's about, but it's
still on my TV. And then they're back at Chewba's
place and he's, you know, complaining about he doesn't want
to have to do this deal with the uh the
guy at New Angelis. He didn't want to, he didn't
want to try to kill the bounty hunter, but you know,
he's caught in a rock and hard place. You know,
he needs his pleasure droids whatever, so he makes a

(53:32):
deal to rat out who's pulling the strings whatever it is.
And two times he says waterfront, like you have to
go to the waterfront. And I don't know about you,
but isn't there a Marlin Branda movie called on the
Waterfront anyone, like an Oscar Ford or something. So I
don't know if that was a reference on purpose, but
this guy looks like Marlon Brando, and every time he's
had a waterfront that kept laughing. So now Mark Singer's
character goes again to the strip club. He finds the

(53:55):
the Lex Luger looking guy who was smuggling the pleasure droids,
and he has that girl still with him. I think
her name is Beth, and they decide they're gonna team
up and infiltrate New Angelus, but she is gonna pretend
she's a pleasure droid, you got it, And they're going
to find a way to break in and overcome all
the bad things going on in Phoenix due to what's

(54:17):
going on in New Angelus. There is a funny scene
where like Mark Singer's characters walking around, you know, there's
not a lot of people here. They look like they're
just like in a water filtration center or something the
whole time. But he's walking around on some guard goon
is like, hey, where's your ID. It was kind of funny,
and he after Mark Singer beats him up, he takes

(54:38):
his idea. He's like, oh, there it is, I'll use
this one. It's not funny when I say it, I'm
not necessarily saying it's funny when you watch it, but
I thought it was worthy enough to write down. When
the girl Beth is brought to the bad guy, she
has told numerous times that she has an oral function
that's advanced and upgraded. It's so stupid. Eventually, though, it

(55:05):
is revealed that she is a human, and the bad
guy's like, oh no, all the disease, you're real. So
I guess that's the problem. They have to have pleasure
droids because all the women are diseased in this new apocalypse. Great,
so Mark Singer's character and the blonde wrestling looking guy
they decide to get the other pleasure droids. If you

(55:25):
even been following, there were three other ones that were
dropped off before and they're in these pods. So they
get them out of the pods and they go get Beth,
and Beth kills the bad guy, the main bad guy,
I don't even know his name. I already forgot it.
But she has like this glow stick thing that she
sticks in his stomach and then he just like turns
into like this white light. I don't know what the

(55:46):
hell happened. He's mad that she's real, and then she
kind of chops him and then there's like a glow
stick in his chest and he's gone, and then she
just walks out. I mean, there's like four people who
live in New Angelis. Does nobody protect this dude? There's
nobody at the door. There's just like one other goon
and a couple others that run around. There is a
lame gun fight with the two good guys. They're just

(56:08):
shooting at I don't know, seven or eight goons that
come walking down a staircase. It's like playing lethal enforcer
or something. And Mark Singer's character has a six shooter,
so I kept saying, like, is he gonna reload? And
then he do make a little joke that he had
to reload or I'm like, all right, at least they're
trying to have some continuity here. It's a pretty lame gunfight.
But then the end is there is a three way,

(56:30):
you know, kind of a face off. So he got
the two good guys and then the one underling of
the bad guy. Somehow he got a hold of Mark
Singer's time watch that he had in his pocket. I
didn't mention it before. I didn't think it was relevant
until this part of the movie happened. So he's holding it.
And if you ever seen The Good, the Band, and
the Ugly, this is completely ripped off from The Good,
the Bad and the Ugly. When all three characters, Clint Eastwood,

(56:53):
Lee Van Cleef and Eli Wallach, they're all in a
with a stare off, there's a little watch and once
the music stops playing, there also is a draw and
whoever obviously is left standing is the winner. This happens
here and the other two guys get gunned down. Mark
Singer is still standing. The Lex Lugur guy doesn't make it.
There's a very bizarre scene where Mark Singer's character's talking

(57:14):
to him as he's passing. It felt very like, I
don't know, man, like they didn't even want to do it,
Like Mark Singer's totally just mailed it in for that scene.
So Singer gets the girl, he gets the money, and
then they go back to the main I guess he's
a good guy. That the guy who's running things in Phoenix,

(57:34):
and then she leaves. She's like, I'm not gonna work
for you anymore. I'm going with this guy. And then
they cut to the alley where there's like a bum
guy with one of the pleasure droids that they never found.
She's dressed as a nun. I guess to hide and
plain sight, and that's it. That's the movie. I think
this pleasure droid hiding out as a nun at the

(57:56):
end of this movie might be the start of Sister
Act three. Maybe that's what that movie is there, this
dire actory out't how many of those things are there?
I know there's at least two. Is there a third one?
If there isn't, this should be it. Pleasure Droid is
a nun. I think this movie should be called Cyberbone.

(58:17):
That doesn't seem like they know what to call this thing.
So that's what I'm calling it. It's Cyberbone. And how
do I rank it? Well, I have seen it before.
I knew it was gonna be bad before I watched it,
but I really didn't remember much of it other than
it had like some porn elements. But the way ranked
these sings, there's one out of five garbage cans. Five

(58:37):
garbage cans means it's like atrocious crap. One or two
means it's not bad. I'm giving this one three and
a half garbage can. So it's a bad movie. It's
terrible it's awful. If you like looking at skin flicks,
this is for you. If you like Mark Singer, you
know whatever, put it on. It was a really long
ninety minutes. I mean I kept checking the timer, like,
when's this thing over with? This is taking way too long.

(58:59):
And of course on two you do have commercials, so
you know, you get breaks, or you can go take
a bathroom break or get some of the eats. Because
it's not good. There's a lot of other things you
can watch it are much worse than this, but this
is pretty bad. This is one of the probably top
ten worst things I've ever watched. But it's right there
for you. Cyberzone, droid gunner pleasure droids, or as I

(59:20):
will now call it, cyberbone. Is it complete garbage?

Speaker 7 (59:24):
It kind of is complete garbage.

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