"Young Sleep and Old Grouch"

Episode 213: In this episode, Mark is joined by Hip Hop artist- Young Sleep. We preview his upcoming project "Sleep City 3", coming July 25th. We talk about tracks he did with Mickey Fatz and Royal Flush and how he met Royal Flush. We talk about the videos that correspond with the songs, his background growing up in Rochester, what the scene there is like, how he got his name and how Michael Vick was the subject for his his rhyme. 

Check for young Sleep here: https://linktr.ee/youngsleep

Mark also talks about the Billboard Top 75 R&B Singers list. He has some gripes with the rankings and omissions of some singers not on the list. 

Check out the premier video for "Things and Stuff" where Mark reviews collectibles. Find the video and upcoming videos on The Infinite Banter Youtube channel. Direct link for current "Friday the 13th" review video-
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, Yeah, what's up? Shit boy, Young Sleep, Don't Sleep.
You already know the only podcasts I rockway is the
Infinite Banter podcast. Shout out to my boy DJ sound
Wave Soundway with.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
The Infinite Banter podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Baby here it is another episode of the Infinite Banter

(00:43):
podcast What is Happening? My name is Mark Jollaff, also
known and sometimes called or referred to as DJ Soundwave.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Big up for checking out the show.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Really excited to bring this episode to you, going out
to Rochester, been out there a few times, not actually
physically v a phone call recording of an episode. Had
a lot of hip hop artists on the show before
out there, like Azariah Kratona, P M.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Doc Diego.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
This time we've got Young Sleep and he's got a
new project coming out July twenty fifth called Sleep City three.
So really looking forward to bring that interview to you.
You talk about a couple of tracks he's got out
now with some videos that go along with it, and
we preview sleep City three coming soon, and really looking
forward to talking to him about his connection to Royal
Flush MC out of Queens has been doing this thing

(01:30):
a long time. Remember that track Ice Down Medallion that's
an all time classic. Well he has a track with
Young Sleep and they have a video four and everything,
So stay tuned. We're gonna talk about that and much
much more. But as always, we don't go forward without
going back, so we're gonna put the episode in reverse,
go back to the last episode. And I have my man,
King of Droid on here, second time on the show
and always a good time talking with him, and we

(01:50):
talked about his new project that's out right now, Hoymology
Volume two. So here we go flashback to the last
episode with King Droid here on the Infinite Banter podcast Flashback.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
My brother Arsenal from pen Lords. Man, he's hilarious, man.
He was like, I put that tag on if you've
seen it in my bio, But he said basically because
I was you know, I was saying like on a symbology,
you know, on that record, and then like you know
the other tracks that I had, like where I've done
a little bit of singing or playing around the harmonizing.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
He's like, dude, you're the very white of the underground.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
And I started, man, yeah, yeah, that was like, bro,
that's crazy man, and we just start laughing. But I
think the Sympology was pretty creative. I like the uh
I guess you could say, like the the track I
did with pen Lords with with j Routhburn right, that

(02:40):
was a pretty dope track.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
It was kind of given a little bit of a
you know, like bars because we kept the bars, and
you know you we stayed in poppy because I wanted
to be kep a bit balance with you know, a
little bit harmonizing, a little singing.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
A little bit of you know, flow character.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
But at the same time, you want to also keep
the hip hop, so I think those features also kept
a balance with it as well.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Definitely go back and check out that episode if you
have not had a chance. Ken your DROI talking about
his new album, Homology Volume two.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
We talk of a lot of other stuff too.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
We talk about sports and living in cities where it's hot,
and in Chicago here it has been like two weeks
straight ninety degree high humidity, just yuck. It's like I'm
one of them dudes that complains a lot when the
weather is either.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Too hot or too cold.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think I called the complain weather when I was
talking to him in that episode, and we've had two
weeks of it. It has been just you know, you
go outside and you're like, you want to go right
back in kind of weather. But as I said to him,
I'll take that over fires and tornadoes and earthquakes and
whatever else. Republicans, I'll take that over all that. We
got those out here too, but they're not as prevalent here.

(03:49):
All right, let's get into today's episode of the Infinite
Banter podcast. Young Sleep is here talk about his new
project coming up, Sleep City three. Also later on the show,
I want to touch on Billboard. You know, they've been
doing these lists, and you know, usually there's a problem
with all of these lists that come out, but they
have a top seventy five R and B singer list.
For the most part, they got a lot of the

(04:10):
names right. The order is a little weird, but there's
a few names, of course, that they left off. I mean,
it's criminal for some of these names. What I'll do
is I'll mention who I think should have been on here,
and then I'll kind of run down the top fifteen.
I can't do all seventy five. This show will be
more than infinite, so we'll talk about that. I'll give
a few thoughts on that after the interviews, so'll stay
tuned for it. But this is the Infinite Banter podcast.

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Speaker 4 (06:02):
All right, let's get into it. Enough babbling.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Let's talk to Young Sleep talk about his new project
coming out soon, Sleep City three, play a couple of
tracks from him, and learn about how he came up
with his name. Really cool story to that as well,
So stay tuned. Young Sleep is here. But before we
do anything, we go out to queens and the one
and only DMC. He gets on, he says this, and
now the show's official.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yo, yo, what's up?

Speaker 6 (06:23):
This is me DMC to K I and G the
greatest MC in history.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
And right now you're.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Listening to Infinite Banter because we will banter on forever,
because this is the only place for all of your
to ever be. I be infinite Banter.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
So before we talk to Young Sleep, let's go ahead
and play a track, the one we've been promoting here
at the beginning of this episode. It's called Remission with
Royal Flush, and there's.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
A video for us.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
If you go on YouTube, look up Young Sleep, look
up Remission. You'll see the video which is a really cool,
you know concept and the idea that they did a
song together Royal Flush and Young Sleep and Royal Flush
battling cancer. And just see that he's on the other
side of it. Really means a lot to see him
still doing his thing. So salute to the legend Royal Flush.
You're about to hear in this track right here at
Young Sleep. So here we go Remission from Young Sleep

(07:13):
and Royal Flush. And on the other side of this
we'll talk to the man himself about this track, his
upcoming project, and much much more. But here we go
remission from Young Sleep feature Royal Flush Here on the
infinite banch of podcast.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Let's go yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Flush governor Young Sleep don't sleep, Yeah Yo.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
As long as I'm alive, hip hop in a good place.
Put murder on beats. I give him that old mace.
They can never shatter my dreams. I don't break like
Biggie Foy died. I kept that good faith. I'm the
one who he dies made the score. Even God works
through the year. These niggas sees all this goat salt.
Y'all don't know the meaning. Too many fake ghosts compared

(08:04):
to me, Nigga Vegan, mister Big Drip were more sauce
than Italians before the lingual Flush had I taught me
Dallions my broke God cancer. He said he would die,
but the music and the love still kept him alive
through the pain in the saus God keeping them fly.
I bring that field to the game. I ain't speaking
a lie bo rap. I don't play with it, drap
all day with it, white boy cooking it up. I'm

(08:26):
Bobby flaying with it.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Jet Baby.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
I came from public housing, started with a dream in
the pit and made thousands. Can't nobody fuck with the
float like see MG and Yo Gotti.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I'm the one with the glow.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
Nigga fuck man's maw.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Fuck I deserved.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Look in my life.

Speaker 8 (08:49):
I went from new cars to jumping on flights. Now
I gotta drop a tear every time that I write.
My situation different started.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
From a kitchen.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
That woman's submission.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
The devil was my competition.

Speaker 8 (08:59):
I'm with from bagging a hustle, robbing and shooper niggas
and now if I'm getting shot every day just to
boost my spirits, I'm in the hospital for a year,
steering at the ceiling. I don't give a fuck what
I did. I want to guard children as far as rap.
I made the niggas that hustle want her dat and
listen to a party being talking about cracking hot, make
you walking with a strap and fuck with you donated man.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I gave that ship back.

Speaker 8 (09:21):
The bills was too high. I'm seeing where the love zat.
I ain't smoke death, but I definitely caught a contact
and keep it with a radiation got me in a
death mat. To doctors Roulin Jackson.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Oh, she's looking at his craft.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
I'm steady drinking Remy, but I'm thinking about patting if
I die, telling world, I'm just taking the long nats.
I'm going to keep two nines on me, like going Sap.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
And me and God.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
We agreed on this contract that part.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I'll give you one more. You always as a riot. Man,
you're singing in an infinite answer.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
You're tuned into the Infinite Banter podcast. I am DJ
sound waving. I'm really high to bring on my guests.
He is a new project dropping in July called Sleep
City three. Welcome to the show to one and only
Young Sleep.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Man?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
What's uping man? What's up? I definitely appreciate your time.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
No doubt man, thanks for checking in and uh man.
For people who don't know about Young Sleep, let him know.
You know where you're from and how you got started
in this rap game.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, so you know, Young Sleep, don't Sleep Rochester, New York,
big upstate. The doing this for a long time. Man.
They'll feel like I ain't hit my prime yet, but yeah,
I've been doing music twenty years and my story a
little different than most people. I got my start pretty much.
In health class, teacher said, write a rap about health.
But you can't write a rap about health. Just write

(10:40):
a rap, period. So I wrote a rap I had
like a crazy Michael Vick barr because it's like, oh two, Michael,
Michael Vick was on fire for the fuck.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Say, I hope he went about the dog stuff. Okay,
you're talking about what he's playing there, you go.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
No, no, not about laying the dogs down. About when
he was like the guy, like.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Man, yeah, he was one of those guys I remember
because I'm embarrass fan. I'm here in Chicago, and the
dude would would just eat us up. Every time we
played him. They could never catch him when he was
out of the backfield running with the ball, and then
of course he decided to throw it on you.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
You know, he was deadly there too, So go ahead, man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
So like like exactly what you said, Michael Vick was
like the face. He was one of the first quarterbacks
who like he could throw, but he really could run too,
Like he was fast and we never really seen that,
like we've seen Randall cunning him a little bit right
near a little bit, but he took it to another
level and obviously the kids could relate to him. So
like I had a crazy Michael Vick Barr. All the
kids in the class were crazy for us. So I'm like,

(11:36):
all right, cool. So then I kept rapping me and
my man started rapping. I used to wrap in his attic,
but we used to do like clown wrap, like for
Will Smith and like Jazzy Jett and all that. Right,
So like drilling girls and making fun of people. And
then like a couple of dudes from our neighborhood, I
found out they wrapped, and I joined the little group,
and then you know, I really just kind of started
taking rap serious. But what made me really pursue rap

(11:57):
like even further is when my brother passed. My brother passed,
that that kind of gave me that little field, like
you'll really try to go for.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
This, right man, There's a lot there, dude, I mean
to me, like and I when I took health class,
I mean, there was nothing in there that made me
want to do anything.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
But you know, do something the right way.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
That's what they're they're trying to teach you, right, But
I mean as far as like sparking like that interest
that initial sparked for you to do music, and then,
like you said, with your brother, and that even pushed
you to the next level of really wanting to make
something of this man.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, man, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And Mike Vick, I think I think he changed. He
went from Michael Vick to Mike Vick if I remember,
like he changed his name, and I don't remember if
there was a reason for it, but he was, uh
you said, Randall cunning him. Man, I was thinking his
name when you were talking about him, because I remember
I'm old enough to remember him with the Eagles, just
jumping over dudes and he was like that first quarterback
that ran with a purpose. And Justin Fields was here
a couple of years ago with the Bears, and he

(12:50):
was kind of reminding me of those guys that he's
with the Jets now. But you know, he'll maybe he'll
do some of the same stuff. But that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Man.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Do you remember any of the lines from that Michael
Vicka Ryan you did?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
No, man, Well, hopefully you run into them one of
these days and you can let him know, like, hey man,
you helped spark my my career here.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
So you salute to Mike Vick.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Man, he's definitely one of the all time greats, did
things that never been done before.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Man, So okay, you're out in Rochester, and I gotta
tell you, man, I don't know how many cats I've
had on here from Rochester as a riot. Who's been
on here a lot, you know, you know, as a
right m Doc Diego numerous times, Katona pe Man.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
No see there you goes to Rochester.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
It seems like it's a small city, right, but it's
as far as hip hop goes to me, it's it's huge.
I mean there's so many artists coming out of there.
Talk about just the scene in Rochester and your relationship
with cats like I just mentioned.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, definitely a small city. We like the Lost Borough, Yes,
upstate and everything. It's six hours away from New York City.
A lot of poverty. We don't have a lot of outlets, Like,
we don't got main mainstream radio. Yeah, we got radio stations,
but we have like two, right, and then it's like
they mess with you, they mess with you. Not it's
very hard to get on their radar. But small city.

(14:04):
So like in New York, we would be one borough.
One borough in New York is pretty much our whole city. Wow,
it's probably like one hundred and fifty thousand if that
who knows, And it gets from the east side to
the west side takes ten to fifteen minutes, so you're
bound to run into people. Like it's very small where
if you like you got a real issue with somebody,
you could go see that person if you could find them,
and you'll probably be where they at in ten minutes,

(14:26):
right right, man.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
But yeah, I was gonna say, because it's the small
cities that makes a competition more fearce because everybody's trying
to get on and you know, you've really got to
be sharp with yours because then there's not that many
people there, and you know, you got to if you
want to stand out, you got to make sure you're
you're bringing something right.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, absolutely, I agree, Like it's pros and contact because
in a way we do show a lot of unity,
but then overall we really don't so the overall unity
to like really push it, no, because like you said,
it's so competitive where it's like nobody really cracked that
door for us. We got like if you remember to
do name thirty special, like he's the one that's kind
of like leading the way right now, but then in
the early two thousands, we had a dude name that

(15:04):
went by Sonny who was signed Jermaine the Prix. So
he had the first major deal that I know of
to me, So he had a deal early two thousands
and he got his deal from Freestyle Fridays on BT
one on six in Park he won seven weeks and
then Jermaine to pre sign them. But besides him, we
never really had nobody that had a major deal. So,
like you said, everything is real, real competitive here because

(15:25):
you got to stick out. Because if you want to
be the one to make it to the next level
and somebody, you know, really take a look at you,
you got to be better than everybody else. And I
think it is very competitive here because everybody think they're
bigger than it really is. I hate to say it
like that, but then you do got some unity here
too as well. Like right now, the last few months
has been pretty dope in Rochester because you see a
lot of hip hop events going on and people not

(15:47):
charging people to perform and stuff like that. They're just like, yo,
if you dope, just come come through. And there's a
lot of dudes putting a couple of dollars together just
to show off local talent and stuff like that. So
it go both ways. Like I said, it's love here,
but it's more competitive, Yes it is, and everybody wants
to be the one where like I got a nice buzz,
it might be another dude who feels like they got
a nice buzz and they it's not beef. But it's

(16:10):
like he don't mess with me, or I might not
feel him as much because we both think we the ones,
and he might think I'm better than him. I might
think I'm better than that person. I'm not really like that.
I'm a humble person overall. But it's like, you know,
I go off energy if I feel like somebody don't
really care for me or they feel a certain type
of way because I'm getting certain looks, but I know
I worked hard, then I kind of keep my distance.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
There you go, man, And you know it sounds to
me like like you said, it's got a little bit
of bold.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
There's the unity thing.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
But of course everybody's out there trying to make a
name for themselves, so yeah, I kind of have to.
It's like a bouncing act. And you know what, It's
probably like that just about in every city in the country,
even across the world for that matter. When it comes
to you know, not just hip hop, but anything you're
trying to do, there's always somebody who's behind you or
maybe in front of you, trying to try to do
the same thing. So man, just yeah, you guys are
staying sharp out there. I just got to salute Rochester

(16:56):
because it seems like Rochester is putting that grimmypo on
the map or keeping it there too.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
I mean, you guys are putting your flag.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Down and Buffalo's doing their thing, and you know, I
know a lot of that area that upstate New York
man like Griselda and you know, of course they're the
ones that are really making noise. But man, just salute
to you guys. You guys are really killing it.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Thank you. Like like you said, I agree with like
that real traditional hip hop sound. We're really big on that. Like,
don't get me wrong. The younger generation, they're making the
music that's popping right like that's really going on right now,
which they should because they're young kids nineteen twenty do
the music you like. But we have a lot of
dudes from here that stick to their guns. Like me myself,
I could have transitioned to other type of music, but

(17:35):
I said, you know, I make the music I like
to listen to. So I've always been kept building and building.
I don't live in the past, but bars and lyrical
music always been really important to me. I always wanted
to be big on my wordplay, and I just kept
that that even when it wasn't popular and people kind
of faded it out. I always just kept building and
building and building that. And I think right now I'm
in a good position.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I could even imagine somebody who made music that they
didn't like. You think it sounds crazy, right, I mean
it seems illogical, right, Yeah, if you like it, you
know everybody should like it. But man, there's some cats
out there probably making some whack ass shit like I
hate it, but it's gonna make my mortgage.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Now. That's the fact I have a covenant of my
And I wouldn't say he don't like his music, because
I'm pretty sure he thinks really good. But he was
a really lyrical rapper, one of the best rappers here.
He hands down like nobody, like nobody could really touch him.
And he pretty much said he transitioned because he said,
I don't make music for old heads and stuff like that.
I make music for girls who gonna spend money and
come see me. He had a good point, and I

(18:32):
respected it, But what it was crazy because I felt
like he's one of the best rappers period and he
changed his whole style up and it's working for him. So,
you know, much respect to him.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
But yeah, right, that's a that And again it goes
back to him before about balance. I mean, you know,
maybe it's probably strong to say he doesn't like it,
but it's definitely not what he was known for when
he was coming up. Now, I'm sure there's a lot
of Yeah, I'm sure you can speak on some other
artists that are similar. Maybe they saw the lane that
they they were going down. It's like, well, I could
keep doing this and I'll have the same same fans forever,

(19:05):
or I can kind of veer off a little bit
and you know they were right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Now that could backfire too.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
You could veer off and then like that doesn't work,
and then the ones you left behind don't want you back,
so that you're like really cloud Yeah, man, that's that's
a whole different. It's like wrecking the car going off
the road with that. But what was that that deadline
from ice Cube years ago would be true to the games,
talking about you old fans don't want you back or
something like that. He said something like that in a

(19:32):
song and I always that always stuck with me. He's like, yeah,
it's true, you tried to go commercial or whatever lane
you know it is. And man, but I gotta give
it up to you, man, cause speaking of legends and such,
Royal Flush, man, you gotta tell me about how you
guys hooked up.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
And it's just so.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Good to see him doing things.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean, he's just won them all time grades.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Man, he is man very underrated, doesn't get the recognition
that he deserves. But the funny thing about that, I
always know Roy Flush mostly. I always heard of him
when I was a kid and stuff. I didn't really
know all the music. But then I think once I
really got into music started doing my thing, I like
researched it and became a real fan and stuff, and

(20:10):
I just knew he always was like a legend or
some people say underground legend, but he's a legend period.
It don't matter what kind of legend is. And a
fly guy being from Queens, being from that scenery, being
with like CNN, being with NAS, being from just that
era of hip hop, that real real hip hop era,
boom back, and a few years ago, I want to say,

(20:32):
like two three years ago, out the blue, he followed
me on Instagram and then he just started liking some pictures.
Didn't hit me with a message or anything or comment.
He just like a couple of pictures follow me and
I'm like, oh, shoot, that's real Flush, It's like really
dope like and then I just hit him in a
d N one day and I just say, y'all, I
appreciate you legend following me and so in love and
he said salute. I'll see what you're doing. And then

(20:53):
what's crazy. I was going to New York for a
video show with Mickey Fax. Mickey Fast is another legend
underground or battle rap, wherever you want to say. He
was on the Freshman List, I want to say, the
first freshman List or one of the very early ones,
freshman cover whatever on Double XL. He was one of
the first ones. But Mickey really talented. So I was
doing a video with Mickey and New York City and
I reached out the Flush on IG and I just

(21:15):
said Hey, legend, you got the time, I would love
for you to come out and be in the video
for a quick cameo if you have the time. Never
he didn't respond right away, so I focused on the video.
We shot the video. Then he finally hit me back,
like you know where you at? Where you at, you're
still shooting a video. So then he gave me his number.
We got on the phone. He's like, let's meet up
and I'm like, you know the video over. He's like, well,

(21:35):
we can still just meet up though. So we met
up and like he pulled right up on me and
he came to where I was at and he just
kicking it with He's like, man, let me be in
a video. I'm like, well it was dark by that time,
so I'm like it's right not go look right with
the video, but I definitely appreciate you just coming. So
he came out of love. It wasn't not financial for
him to gain or anything. And we started building and

(21:56):
I say, you know, I would love to do a
song with you, and then we started that process. Was
crazy about that process is we just dropped that video
and the song probably been done for like three months,
but we were supposed to do a song like a
year and a half ago. What happened was flushing up
getting cancer. So right when everything is about to go
get going and I'm sending him beats and stuff, he
found out he had cancer and he had to deal

(22:16):
with that. And I always just told him, like, you know,
worry about your health because you're fighting something series that
you know, like it's life threatening. So I didn't really
care about the music piece the business side, so I
used to always just check on him, texting, calling, like
hey bro, just seeing how everything going. Everything. We put
the music to the side and we just became really
really became friends overall. He became family. And then once

(22:38):
he beat cancer, God blessed. Yeah, man, we got back
to business.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
That's what's up, man. And I'm glad to hear that
he is on the other side of it, man. And
and it fits the song remission, right, I mean that, Yeah,
it has to be part of that, right.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's exactly what was part of But it was even
crazy about that even when I wrote my verse, because
I wrote mine first, I didn't it was really dedicated
to him or that wasn't a title. I just start
writing and the first lines is regular and everything. I
think I had one or two lines about him. It
was not really a lot. It's one or two lines.
And then when I really listened back to the verse,

(23:13):
I said, dang, you know, this almost be like a
dedication to him in a way. So it wasn't on purpose,
like I didn't go into the song like, you know,
I got a song for Flush, it's gonna be almost
a tribute to him. For him to speak about his life,
it just happened naturally, and I listened to him, like,
you know, and I ain't telling him what to talk about,
but he heard it. He heard that I was showing
him so much love. And then he pretty much talked
about his life and what he was going through. And

(23:34):
then I came up with the title, like, you know,
this is perfect. You just be cancered. Let's call it this.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
That's what's up man.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
And you know, just to backtrack a little bit, I'm
sure that he was really grateful for your friendship during
that tough time. And it wasn't absolutely Obviously the music
thing was what got you guys to know each other.
But at the end of the day, man, it's just
the human thing, and you guys are just friends. And
just want to see him.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Get through it.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
And man, it's just glorious to see IFIM on this
side man and you guys working together, and man, it
just has to have that special feeling, dude, not to
get all you know, you know what I mean, but
big up, man, that's that's awesome.

Speaker 9 (24:07):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Absolutely, And it's it's like you said, it's a special song.
It's it's a it's a real song. It's about real,
real events. And I think everybody who heard it they
love it. Even like the people he told me he
played it for. They was like, Yo, they loved the
song because they know it's real. Like he played it
for some really dope people, like legendary people, and they
always got great feedback from me. And it was even
like just a quick name drop, even though I don't

(24:29):
want to just throw saucing, but like he played for
Dave East one day at Dave East Store, and East
is like, Yo, your man showed you mad love, Like Yo,
this dope like much respect to sleep for doing that.
He showed you mad love and he was just like yeah,
like he appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, man. And it's it just goes back to like
like I said that your original contact with him and
showing love to him then and uh, it just just
extended out.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
This is like, this is over a couple of year.
This is not just like, you know, over a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, this two year, a two year process to do
a song together.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, so it's just all that was built up in
you and I'm sure it just poured out of the
pen when you're writing it.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh absolutely, yeah, not for us. I heard the beat
and it was just a great feel to it.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
I'm an old head, so Ice Down Medallion's is one
of those I remember you put that record on, man,
record on and you know the right, man. It doesn't
even it's timeless exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's a timeless records, a class of record. It would
never go out of style. You got records that they're
gonna live forever.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, Ice Down Medallion Man.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
You know what, when I'm done talking with you, man,
I'll probably play Red Mission again. But I'm gonna play
that track too, because that's it's a damn banger.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Talk about doing the video too, because I mean, it's
one thing to do a song with somebody, but to
have him actually be available, it's not he guys of
across the street from each other and.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
We gotta workout six hours.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, so you got to figure all that out to
talk about doing the video, and it definitely felt like
New York man watching it too, and.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
It definitely was in New York. We shot most of
it in Queens. I shot pieces in Harlem right in
front of the Apollo. He didn't come to that piece
because he wanted to keep it real Queens for himself,
which makes a lot of sense. But yeah, doing the
video was amazing. Like we we seen each other like
two three times before the video. I had to show
a copone from CNN one day in October, so that

(26:14):
was like the last time I seen Flush before the video,
and he came out for copone but also for me
as well. Obviously him and Compone, his cousins. They family,
So I got to talk to him about that, and
we was just about to finally get the song done
and we you know, had a good energy on that.
And then when it was trying to shoot the video,
it was no hesitation, Like he sent me his verse.
I got the camera, man, I said, hey, does this
date for work for you? He said, let's do it.

(26:35):
That was like a week event I gave him a
week Evans, and he was ready and we once we
got the Queens, it was a beautiful day. I had
a couple, one friend with mine. We drove up the
six hours, we got straight, got straight to it on
the rooftop and just great energy. Man. It was. It
was great to be with him because, like I said,
he liked family. Now I don't even look at it
like praise, like, yeah, it's business, but it's also like

(26:57):
friendship as well, like we really built that friend and shit.
And you know, with the industry, it's funny because on
shot videos with people or did songs with people, where
they looked at it it's just straight business and they
just kept it moving like it is what it is.
But with him, it's a lot different. Like we having
conversations before and after the video shoot. I'm playing him
my album. He playing me an album that most people

(27:18):
don't even know that's about to come out, and I'm
hearing all these amazing songs and stuff like that, and
hearing like like he did Ghetto Millionaire, that's his classic,
but now he about to do Ghetto Billionaire. Amazing, Yeah,
next level. He said, what's a million? Now, million ain't nothing.
Let's go to a billion.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
So I've taken.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I ain't touch a million yet, so I love a million. Yeah,
just to hear the music that nobody else got to
hear yet, that's amazing, Like I'm privileged to do that.
So to shoot a video with a friend of mine,
a legend in New York City, the birth of hip hop,
and then I get to enjoy like hearing other incredible
artists and hearing them on songs with my brothers, like

(28:00):
you can't beat.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
That, yeah man, And it just just listening to your
full circle here, you know, starting off, you know in
health class, right, and now we're talking about doing a
song with Royal Flush and being in New York and
doing videos and everybody listen, go on YouTube and check
out that video for Remission. It's it's dope. You get
to see Royal Flush, my man Young Sleep doing their thing,
and like I said, just feels it. Obviously it is
New York, but it just feels like a New York video,

(28:22):
like New York top stuff and everything. Yeah, absolutely, man,
no doubt. And this will be on the Sleep City
three project.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Correct, absolutely, yeah. So this is like the newest single.
We got a couple other singles, but I pretty much
shot videos for almost everything that's gonna be on or
not everything. But right now, this is the one that's
called really Steaming to going into sleep City three. I'm
thinking one more video probably come out before the mixtape
of Drop, but this is the one that's pushing me
through until we get to that finish line.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
No doubt.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Man.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
And speaking of videos, I did see the West Craven video.
Being a horror fan, you West Craven, Like, that name
just rings out as soon as I grew Jason and
Freddie and all.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's exactly that, and that's where it comes from. That's
exactly where it come from. Because when I did this
song with dark Low, obviously you mentioned Wes Craven. For
people that don't know, that's me and dark Low Free
dark Low. He's another underground legend. It just had a
dark field to it. I know dark Low makes a
lot of dark music, and the beat was dark, and
I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna tap into his lane.
When you think of dark stuff and you know, kind

(29:19):
of horror, I think of Wes Craven, the filmmaker, and
obviously you talking about Freddy Couger and all these great
movies and stuff. So that's why I kind of dedicated
that title to him, like I played off his name,
and I think it done. It did amazing, Like it
didn't one than I actually expected to be, to be
honest with.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
You, man, it's dope.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
And the way the video is shot and everything with
the lights seemed like they kind of go dark and
light and nothing within it. And for those who don't
know Wes Craven did you know, obviously not Manome Street,
but he's also going for Scream and Last House on
the Left. Yep, he'll have I stuff like the originals
and the remakes.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, the originals. Yeah, like you said, Scream is probably
like the huge, huge one in the Freddy Couger movies
for sure, but also a lot of other dope movies.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yeah, he's a legend.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
So yeah that video again, everybody listening, you know, we're
saying these songs, this videos for him, go check them out.
And uh, because Sleep City three it's not till late July,
so you got a little bit of time to wait
for it, right, I have July twenty fifth, Is that's
still the target date for that?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, there's the target day. Yeah, that's my brother's birthday.
So that's perfect important.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Okay, that's not gonna change. Yeah, you're keeping it.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, I don't think it's going to change, man. So
that's and it just happened to be on a Friday,
which is perfect because that's pretty much when music comes
out now. Remember back in the day, moves used to
come out on Tuesdays, Tuesday. I've dropped on Fridays.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I used to.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I remember, like, man, I have a son of old
ass man. On Tuesdays, like in the nineties, I would
go to like Tower Records and wait for that album
to drop, and you're standing there with like, you know,
thirty people or whatever they would have like a release
party or something. So man, yeah, you know the way
it is now, everything comes out online. It doesn't even
I don't think the day even matters. And you could
put something out on a Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, will probably be down to any day you want.
It really don't matter. Like you said, you could drop Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday,
it don't matter, right, But that's kind of like the
main day. Yeah, come, music comes out now is on
Fridays at midnight. Soon as it hit midnight it's on stream.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
You go.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
He got the weekend ready, go to the club, road,
stay in the house like I do. Whatever you do,
it's it's there for you.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
You got to work on Friday, Bump into work real quick.
Bump it when you get off work.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Perfect man, And you brought up Mickey faxx earlier. You
got a video and a track with him called higher
Learning another movie reference.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Maybe another movie right there, it is another movie reference.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Man talk about doing a track with him, and of
course higher Learning of the song in general.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, another great situation, Like I had a show in Orlando, Florida,
like two years ago, I think, and a good friend
of mine who was kind of managing me, but we
more like business partners as well. He had a lot
of great connections out of floridacause he's from Rochester, New
York as well. But he's a promoter and businessman, and
he put a show together in Orlando, Florida. He knew

(31:49):
some people out during some venues and he's like, Hey,
what you feel about open up for Mickey Facts. I'm like,
that'd be pretty cool. We're at and he said Orlando.
I said, okay, And I think he gave me like
a month in Evance, but I'm like to work. So
we went to Orlando. Great vibes, great energy. First actually
my first time in Orlando just happened to be for
a show, which is amazing. That's what rap does for me.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
There's a scene down there. For what I understand because
I've interviewed a couple of people down.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
There, there's a scene down there, which I didn't really
know because when I think in Florida, I'm thinking, you know,
like Kodak blacks and stuff like that, which shout out
to them, No, disrespected them, but I didn't really think
it was like a hip hop hip hop scene out there.
And did the show with Mickey FACTX, took pictures with him,
went straight into business because that's what I am. I'm
a businessman as well. And we figured things out and

(32:36):
me and my good friend who was the promoter, me
and him did business together with Mickey FACTX for the
song in the video and everything. So we set that up.
He said, my friend, he don't wrap, he's just a
businessman and everything. He's just like, yo, whatever you need
sleep and he's like, just let me know. I let
him hear the beat. He's like, that's a great selection.
I think I got a pretty good ear for production,

(32:56):
and I went to working on it right away, and
I knew who I wanted to go through, which is
this guy named Jimmy Doakes. Me and him been three
for three. He made Higher Learning, he made Remission with
Royal Flush, and he made this other one called one Up,
which is probably my biggest song on the tape. We
could talk about that if you with that now, I
can talk about that eventually. But recorded my verse, I
felt really really great about it, flowed and then Nicky

(33:19):
he sent his back a sap and obviously after my
my vision is gotta shoot the video. Gotta shoot the video.
Another trip to New York City. Probably I think this
is my second video in New York. But this was
different because my first video ever in New York was
dark all night. Scenes had a different feel. This one
felt a lot different. Like it felt like gospel, It
felt like Sunday, it felt like barbecue. It felt like soulful.

(33:42):
It soful because the song is so ful, so the
vie felt soulful. So we go out to New York
City on a beautiful another beautiful day, and uh, I
was blessed to be able to use a record store,
which you know ain't too many record stores no more.
So I ended up shooting at this record store called
Legacy and Dumbo Brooks and it was just a great vibe, man,

(34:02):
and we shot the video. Mickey Fax is really dope.
He's a really great person. Like he hung out with me,
telling me whatever I needed, and we shot for a
few hours and it was an amazing experience. And that's
one of my best songs.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah, man, I mean definitely.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
You know, again, the video helps as well. I always like,
you know, watching videos, but it's always something when you
hit a production and you just hear the song itself
and yeah, really man, you guys really are a good
team up. Because you mentioned you got three songs with him,
and the production that he does, it just brings it.
I'm sure you're gonna work with him some more going forward, man,
But it just talk about, you know, his style of production,

(34:37):
how it fits fits what you're doing lyrically.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
You know what's crazy is it's like he has so
many different styles, so it's not like he just makes
the style I like, it's just I'm patient where I
could go through one hundred beats and I might like
ninety of them, but I just say ninety of them
are not the ones like can I rap to it?
Can I make a song? Probably? But then after a while,
I this one is like it's almost like it's just

(35:02):
meant for me and he just gets me, and it's
just like it's the energy I like. I like really
soulful beats. I like beats with energy. But at a
certain level, I like a certain VPN whatever it's called,
like a certain yeah, where like can I I like
the option I could rap fast and slow. I got
the option to do either one where I don't got
to kind of stick to one one pace on the

(35:22):
whole song or whatever like that. So I think he's
he has great production and just like we haven't missed yet,
Like I said three for three, He's somebody who I
really trust in production. Like when I'm bored or I
feel like I'm late, like I need to get back
in my bag, I go to his website because he
has a website and that motivates me. I might not
even necessarily look for a beat for that moment to

(35:43):
create a new song. I looking for just motivation and
to get my creativity going. Like last week, I went
to his website and I just listened to beats for
an hour and I'm just vibing to him. Didn't write anything.
I'm just freestyling everything, and it just it just motivated me.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
So on his website, he just has beats that anybody
could go to and just listen to him whenever they want.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Anybody can listen to him. Is just if whoever gets
them first, you want to buy them, you got to.
You gotta be on it.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
There you go, somebody else might be putting it in
their cart.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
What's what's that? What's the name of his site?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Is it just his name dot com or something or.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, I think it's like Jimmy dukesboy dot com. Okay,
all right, but I personally know him. We gotta right right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
You got that? You got that? You know that that early?
You know? How do I word it?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Like if you put something, I was like, yeah, I
got this beat here.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I'm gonna put it on the site. A little steps yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I gotta I got a heads up. And then sometimes
he sends me a little snippets some stuff too, like
quit forty five seconds and let me listen to something
that he's going to put on the website, so I
might hear. I'm like, oh no, I need that. Come on, Nope,
don't even worry about it. You gotta upload that.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
I just take that off your head, right.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
I mean, I'm sure he does something. I know he's
gonna feel this.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I'm gonna let him get a little taste see if
he wants it, because if he doesn't take it, it's gone.
It's going on the site and you know someone else
will grab it. But I know he'll like it. I'm
gonna send him a little bit here. That's that's that's
how you do it, man.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
That's yeah. And he, like I said, he's really dope.
He's from Buffalo, New York, so you know that's another upstate.
He done a lot of stuff for the lot, mainly
cheek loops, but he does stuff for Kissing sp Another
dude from my hometown, like I mentioned earlier name thirty
especially did a lot for him, a lot of great
production for him. So he's a really talented guy. He's
one of the guys like he's one at the moment,
he's probably my go to producer. And just to go

(37:19):
back off that title, like when I heard the song,
like it's high caliber rap to me, like it's high
level rap. So that's why I went to higher learning. Obviously,
going off the movie and everything, I'm looking like, you know,
this is kids from the sub Like I'm not sure
this for the kids from the city that went to
college to try to get it right, and it just
give you that feel. So that's why I end up
calling it a higher learning, Like I'm inspired off movie
titles and stuff which I kind of learned from like

(37:41):
The West Side Guns and stuff where he did a
lot of wrestling titles. He got a lot of songs
based off wrestling. I like to use a lot of
movie reference since myself.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah, man, I mean go either way with that.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
And they're definitely locked down with the wrestling stuff because
there's not a lot of people who are doing that
no like they were, and I'm a big wrestling nerd,
so I would see, you know, they have a track
that's like Bobby Heating or something like okay exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, they got every wrestler you could name, either every
wrestler or every wrestler or event, every tag team everything. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I remember when I saw them here in Chicago doing
a show and I asked Westside Gun like who his
favorite wrestler was, and we were talking wrestling for like
I don't know, like a minute, but it felt it
felt cool because I never I was always been a
wrestling fan, but I was almost like not, I don't
have a word of man like not cool to talk
about sometimes and some people look at it like, oh.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
You're you're lame.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
You watch wrestling still all that, and the like, No, man,
this dude is one of the illos in the game.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
He's wearing a belt championship belt at his own show,
so whatever is that?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Like he throws his own wrestling shows now, like he
sits front row at wrestling like he made I won't
say he made, but he made more people more comfortable
to say, yeah, I still like wrestling.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
There you go. He made it cool.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
He made it grown men, and I like wrestling.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Yeah right right.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
So for me personally, I feel like if anybody comes
at me like, well, west Side likes it, so whatever,
go talk to him, tell him it's a lame. Then
let me know how that worked.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Man.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, before I let you go, I wanted to ask
you how you came up with that name, young sleep man.
It's definitely unique man, and I was wondering what the
origin of that was.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
So, you know, a lot of people probably look at it,
and I appreciate you saying that, because lot of people
probably look like that's a really super basic name, like
what made you want that name? And like what made you?
What makes you want to even keep that name? And
for me, it's it's a lot more to it. Like
my brother, my big brother, God Bless, his nickname was Sleep,
So I see why everybody in my neighborhood called him Sleep.

(39:30):
I'm the little dude just just now coming outside at
ten eleven years old, and I'm in the neighborhood now,
and they used to they really know my name, so
they're like with up a little Sleep, with up young Sleep.
I ain't like it at first, and it's like I
don't got a rap name, so I'm like, you know what,
I'm gonna call myself young Sleep. And then eventually kind
of shortage just why s. But now after a few years,
I kind of went back to the young Sleep. And
then one of the biggest rappers from my city, like

(39:53):
the dude who kind of like inspired me locally, his
name was Liarrly Love, and like one day he was like,
what up Young? He is like young sleep don't sleep,
and I'm like, dang, that's kind of fire. And I
end up keeping that. I was like, you know what,
I love, yes, but I end up having young Sleep
don't sleep, like be my tag on like tracks, like
when you hear Bennie, you say you hear Bennie the
Butcher coming something like that. So like for me, like
on if you notice a lot of beginning on my tracks,

(40:14):
I say young Sleep don't Sleep. And I got that
from a local legend, and like I just kept pushing
that name. So it's really important to me, like that name,
and eventually I might just go by sleep. But you know,
I'm carrying that because I'm getting older, So what age
forty five might not work?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
But right when you start getting your ARP card in
the mail, maybe yeah, maybe I can't use too much right.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Right, I know I can't.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
I'm old sleep because I'm I'm grouchy. And then if
I have my coffee in the morning, you know all that.
So man, salute man. You know hearing you just you
describe the origin name, it just makes it even greater
because you know, talked about your brother earlier. And it
just you know, it all makes sense to me. Man,
hearing you talk about how much he meant to you,
it's all, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
All this stuff, that's my biggest inspiration. I'm not gonna
like like, my brother was a real big inspiration because
he was special man, Like everybody in the neighborhood loved him.
He had great energy. He was just one of them guys.
Like it's hard not to love him like he was.
All the girls loved him. He could dance, He was six'.
Two he was one of the best basketball players from my.
City my brother's supposed to go To Syracuse university for,

(41:22):
basketball but my brother was killed at, eighteen so he
didn't get that. Chance so his future was. Bright he's
one of them guys that basketball was his. Life ended
up going in the streets for a little. Minute then
he realized the streets wasn't, him and then he turned
his life. Around by the time he turned his life, around,
unfortunately circumstances. Happened but that's that's WHY i looked up
TO i just wanted to be all at my. Brother

(41:42):
and my whole brand is built off my. Brother like
if you, notice my brand is called Sleep city that
comes from, him like his, neighbor like the block he
used to be. On his friends start calling it Sleep,
city AND i pretty much, say you, know this is
this is, mine this is what we're going to run.
With this is the. Brand it's based off. Him and
that's more to keep his leg see a live as.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well and you're and you're doing, that and you, know
big up for doing that and keeping it. Moving And
i'm sure you know he's looking down on you and
easy sees what you're, doing, man And i'm you, know
it's just amazing that you're able to keep it.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Going.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Man the legend lists through, you and that's that's.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Great.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Man it's salute suit for you to do. That And
i'm sure it. Matters you, know every time you put a,
track you know there's part of him in.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
It so, man salute.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Man that's uh, yeah that REALLY i, Mean i'm kind
of speakless because it's really it's really a big.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Deal i'm a Big i'm an older. Brother i'm the older.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
To my my, siblings AND i can't even imagine what
it'd be like to not be, here you know WHAT i,
mean and have them grow up without, me you know
WHAT i?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Mean like.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
It it's a sibling.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Thing you.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Know that was a tough time my, Life LIKE i,
said because he was, EIGHTEEN i was. FIFTEEN i just
turned fifteen my Birthday august. Tenth my brother got Killed
august twenty, Eighth so going into my ninth grade, year
my first year in high, school that's WHAT i dealt.
With so it's like that was a really important time
of my. Life and because of that, situation like MY
i wasn't mentally right at for the moment and THEN

(42:58):
i had to pick it back. Up but you, know
he always lived through me and stuff like. That but
that's that's definitely that was tough for, me and it
still is right and that's SOMETHING i never. FORGET i
never get. Over but it's, like you, KNOW i keep
them with me.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Whatever there you.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Go, man it lives through. You that's that's the best
way to put. It, man he lives through you with
every track and every day that you that you're, here
man and keeping keeping him going through. You, man salute
for that and doing. That and let let heads know
you know where they can find you. Online, uh if
you got music out there that they can go, purchase
and you, know Sleep city go ahead and promote that.
Too we're definitely looking forward to to hearing.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
That, yeah so you could follow me On instagram at
Young sleep five eight. Five just how it sound Y
O u N G s l E E p FIVE
a five YouTube is just Straight Young. Sleep i'm still On.
Facebook most of y'all might not, be but, HEY i
am a.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Family, yeah that's how it.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Sounds i'm On. TikTok i hate, TikTok But i'm on
it now only to post my. VIDEOS i don't do no, dances, yeah,
no no, No Young sleep fivey five for. That i'm
On twitter even WELL x now you can find me
ON x even though it's. BORN i just like to tweet,
Sometimes Young sleep fivey. Five same thing music anything On,

(44:15):
Spotify Apple music that search me on. There of first you.
Can't it won't be under Young sleep and be under.
Ys so sometimes that's a little, confusing but we about
to fix. That so to find you On Apple music And,
spotify everything you search y as the letters why DO
s and eything will pop. Up listen To Sleep city.
Too that give you a good feel of my. Music
that's a great body of. Work just thaw some names

(44:37):
on there is a project Pat, Myths, Legend Ransom Underground,
LEGEND Dna Battle, Rap, Legend Kaya, Baby Upcoming New York.
Artists she's fired a lot of dope people on that,
project AND i think that's the project that really stands
out to me WHERE i feel like that's the project
that turned around where make a lot of people wonder
WHO i. Am and then Obviously i've been growing since.

(44:58):
Then another project on there Called God Blessed. Northwest you
could see the growth in there a little. Bit that's
a little bit Before Sleep city, too a dope. Project
not a lot of features on. That jayhoe was on,
there a couple other, people but you could see Like
i'm starting to grow on, there and in Sleep city
two you could see the full. Development so, yeah definitely
find me on all. That Sleep city is my. Brand

(45:18):
we do snap, backs we DO t, shirts we do.
Everything everything been sold out right, now but we're working
on some really dope merch for this summer And i'll
announced AND i got a branding deal pretty, soon so
that'd be out there. Soon but new hats definitely on
the way AND i think people will love. It that's
gonna go with Sleep city to Sleep city. Three the
album new merch will go with.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
That that's what's, up, everybody stay. Tuned a lot coming
and you check out the old stuff as. Well And
Sleep city Three july twenty, Fifth Don't, sleep go grab,
it go check it. Out make sure you follow my
Man Young sleep on all social, media Even facebook because even,
there so even there when you're posting a picture for your,
family stop by and check out What Young sea got

(46:00):
up there and all. That but, man, man big up
for coming through in the, podcast, Man and LIKE i, said,
man is really cool to hear the personal side of
everything that comes through with you with the music and
going back to World flush and. Everything just it's really good.
Man it's it's just it's a good feeling to know
that people are out, there you, know living through you,

(46:20):
know family members and friends and trying to let that
shine through the music and. Everything and you're just a
big salute, man gratitude for coming through and sharing these.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Stories.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Man thank. You, YEAH i definite appreciate your, time no.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
Doubt.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Man everybody, listening make sure you go Follow Young sleep
and check Out Sleep city three coming Soon july twenty,
Fifth big, Up, MAN i appreciate, you.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Dude thank You Young, sleep Don't, sleep that's what's.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Up big salute To Young sleep for coming on the.
Show we're here and really cool talking to him and
hearing about the origins of his name and how much you,
know his brother's passing has influenced his, music and you,
know it's really cool to hear these stories like that
and just makes you a bigger fan and you know
it makes you want to hear more and see what
comes next because it's really cool to get personal like.

(47:01):
That so a big salute To Young sleeper sharing all.
That definitely. APPRECIATED i know it meant a lot for
him to you, know do songs At Royal flush And Mickey.
Fax and speaking Of MICKEY, faxx you're gonna play a
track from him coming up. Here we talked about it
in the. INTERVIEW i also wanted to bring up at
the beginning of the, interview we're talking about, how you,
know some artists kind of change up the style to you,
know be more, lucrative right reach a different, Audience and

(47:23):
it reminded me of my Friend rudy who, listens he'll
he'll know What i'm talking about because we were talking
about this not too long. Ago you Know Michael kaine
was In, GOD i don't remember. Which how Many jaws
movies are? There, Man it's, LIKE i know they just
had the fiftith the anniversary Of jaws, one which is
a phenomenal. MOVIE i think It's jaws, four the one
With Michael kain At mario Van. Peebles what a. Shock
he's in another bad, movie not just, rapping but also

(47:46):
in this. THING i think It's jaws. FOUR i could be,
wrong BUT i think that's the. One and there's a
famous interview if you look it up on. YouTube just
type In Michael Kaine jaws something like, that and the
interviewer asks him, about you, know like doing that movie already,
regrets you, know in any movies he's. Done he said, that,
WELL i was aware that people don't like that movie so,
much but the movie helped pay for his mother's, house

(48:10):
so he doesn't regret doing the. Movie he doesn't even
know if it's any. Good he hasn't seen it or
something like. That i'm paraphrasing, here but it's a great
clip and it kind of shows that this is connected
to what Young sep was talking. About when somebody makes
a record that's not really true to themselves or maybe
a little bit different than what they normally, do maybe
alienate some. People at the end of the, day you
got a house to point at and, say, well that

(48:31):
RECORD i made bought that. House and In Michael kaine's,
thing you, know he's, like, hey that shitty.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
MOVIE i made that Awful jaws.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Sequel look at that. House that's because of.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
THAT i did that so.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Long explanation to say why it reminded me Of Michael.
Kaine it did a. Connection there's a salute To Young.
Sleep it's going to play that track With MICKEY factx
this one right. Here it's Called Higher learning and one
of my favorite tracks is a video for it as.
Well so here we Go Higher learning From Young sleep
And Mickey fax here on The Infinite banter.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Podcast, yes come, on, Yung.

Speaker 7 (49:25):
Young, sleep don't right, Right, Yeah Young.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Sleep don't?

Speaker 7 (49:33):
Sleep with no cold sign turn this rap shit to
a gold mine and no time to imagine with the.
Glow this is show time and no code lines rapped
buff of dope lines clear a path for niggas to.
Score if something the old LINE i went against the
grain on kept it in my lame on. BEATS i
gave more jewels Than Johnny dames THAT i make sure
the crew ate ya ain't doing the. SAME i put

(49:54):
my bros, in my sists on nigga Like Keenni, wayne
a rap nigga better than.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Me you must be out your.

Speaker 7 (50:00):
Mind Rick James party were boys who aren't live for,
lot high class, rap but still started from, poverty progressing
with the float all year with no, Policy murphy to
design and. Shit they fly big timey, shit major league,
playing never sweating the mining shit independence, still but my
pockets got it. Killed i've been lipping that defense Like
jeffrey And Will.

Speaker 10 (50:21):
Nigga, yeah y'all slipping without too, nice, Man, schmicky look.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
Beep the focus of the rap artists right underground as
the black. Market i'm back, sparking back of barking on,
cats talking that back. GARBAGE i read the circle as man.
TARGETS i can't call it off the. Hook that's the
bar if you ass called it right and past the.
Margin since the track, started my passport of stamped them amps.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Alcoholic because it's nothing but.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
BARS i put my black heart. In let me tell
you about the. Ground WHEN i quit my, JOB i
was Writing rob's daily. Man the ship was hard while
sleeping on, couch sneaking up in the. KITCHEN sta put
my clothes in the. Cleaners that's how the ship was.
Washed also left it at the laundry.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Mat to get.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
INVOLVED i lived out of back just to get involved.
HERE i wouldn't trade that shit for, nothing AND i
prayed for that success in every single of the young And.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
So peacealls you listening to the infinite band of podcast
your Boy, gmail shout out THE dj and sail.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Way it's time for you.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
To leave, assholes all?

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Right that Is Kirk casivato tell me to get the
hell out of, here and that is exactly What i'm
going to.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Do but BEFORE i, LEAVE i did tease at.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
The beginning THAT i want to talk about this billboard,
list the top seventy FIVE r AND b, singers you,
know based on WHAT i don't really. Know let me
just give you their top. FIFTEEN i can't do all
seventy five because will take all.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Day so they're. Fifteen And i'll say.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
This BEFORE i even clicked on, IT i said to,
myself and they better not. Omit people Like Curtis, Mayfield Berry,
White Isaac. Hayes it's a little upset WHEN i saw
the top. Ten i'm seeing those guys' names in. There
they are in, there but they're not in the top
ten as a matter of. Fact number, Fifteen i'll start
with this Is Isaac, Hayes number, Fourteen Curtis. Mayfield so
the GUYS i just mentioned they're in, there they're fairly,
high but, man they could be. Higher Sam cook number,

(52:31):
Thirteen usher number, Twelve, okay, Eleven Ray. Charles so he's
Saying usher is better Than Curtis mayfield And Isaac. HAYES i, mean,
OKAY i mean. Whatever Marvin gay at number, ten which
to me is crazy because he should be like in
the top three four something like. That number nine now
this is the one that you, know if he wasn't
even on, HERE i probably wouldn't even be doing this.

(52:52):
BIT R kelly at number, nine NOW i get. IT
i mean he owned the. NINETIES i, mean we know.
This what he's done has tainted everything he's ever, recorded of,
course but let's just pretend like he never did the
crazy stuff he, did, Right let's just play that. Game
is he really a top ten singer like of all?
TIME i MEAN r AND b, SINGER i, mean, no he's.
NOT i, Mean i'm sorry he's. Not i'm not saying

(53:15):
he can't be on this, list but head Of Marvin.
Gay i'm gonna just say this Because i'm gonna gave
away one of the ones that's not on. Here Charlie
wilson of The Gap band is not on this, list
which is criminal. RIGHT R kelly to me is a
ripoff Of Charlie. Wilson Charlie wilson is still doing, things
killing the. Game so the fact That Charlie wilson's not
on the list is already a problem for. Me and
the fact that the dude who basically fit his whole

(53:36):
style is number, nine well that's a.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Problem AND.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
R kelly's just. Gross you.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Know for those of who still like him despite all that,
stuff that's. Fine if you could play his music and
not be bothered by who he was as a, person that's.
Cool but he is not a top ten ahead Of Marvin.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Gay fuck out of.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Here number Eight Mariah, CAREY i get, It, yeah she's you,
know she's a queen of. This number seven Is Prince,
again one of THOSE i feel like could be, higher
But i'm biased Because i'm a Huge Prince. Fan number
six Is James. Brown, NOW i saw people posting online
That James brown shouldn't be that high because he's not
that good of a. Singer he's more of, like you,

(54:12):
know head of a band or, something WHICH i get,
it BUT i think he's very. UNDERRATED i Think James
brown doesn't get enough credit for how good of a
singer he. Is so, yeah he's probably a little, high
but he's got to be a top ten because It's James.
BROWN i, MEAN i do a, podcast you're talking to
hip hop. People there would be almost no hip hop
Without James brown because of all the stuff he made
that got. Sampled SO i see six is a little

(54:34):
high for, him but it. Works number Five Whitney. Houston
you know she's good at what she, does what she.
Did beyonce number, Four, man is that, high BUT i get.
It they're trying to squeeze a lot of quote unquote
current artists in, here and that seems a little high for.
ME i Think MARY. J blige should be higher Than.
BEYONCE i forgot Where mary, is but she's like in
like the twenties or. Something Michael jackson number, Three, Okay,

(54:58):
okay he's one or two better be great if you're
gonna put this man in, three. Right number two Is Aretha.
Franklin can't really knock, that you know WHAT i, Mean,
like she's definitely the template for female singers, RIGHT r
AND b singers that. Is and number one Is Stevie,
wonder WHO i can't even. FRONT i, mean that's the
dude right. THERE i, mean he is my all time favorite,
Everything and the THING i like about him is that
no matter what kind of song you, need he can do.

(55:20):
It if you want a song that makes you feel,
happy he can do. It if you want a song
about what's going on in the, world he can do.
It if you want something that's a little more, upbeat
or something that's, about you, know a, girl. Whatever he's
done every track you could think, of and he could
play all these instruments and he's just. Amazing so it's
hard for me to think he's not number. One but
you could Argue Michael jackson could be. HIGHER i would
almost rearrange him With, aretha BUT i mean because he's

(55:43):
on another. Level but if they're just going based on voice,
only you, know it's hard to say who's higher, here all,
Right so those are the ones that made it in
the top. Fifteen here's artists THAT i like that are
not on this. List Jeffrey, Osborne come, on, man how's
he not on? There that's the dude right. There, Nobody,
now I'D i don't understand why there's not a lot
of group singers on. Here maybe that was part of

(56:03):
the reason of the. Criteria nobody From earthwin And fire on.
Here No Philip, bailey No Maurice. White that that's crazy to.
Me now Does shade not count as AN r AND
b singer Because rihanna is on? There she's not AN
r AND b. Singer she's a pop. SINGER i Like.
Rihanna i'm not trying to dissert, anything but come, on she's.
Not like if you break down rhythm and, blues is

(56:24):
Is rihanna really? That and you're telling me Like shade.
Isn't shaddy has a full. Band she has a rhythm
of blues band she's playing. WITH i don't understand it at.
All No chante more no A, marie No, guapole No.
Reese people THAT i, like you, KNOW i know they're
not as, big SO i get, It but you, know
it's good to See Erka badu on, There Jill, scott
they made. It D'Angelo was on that. LIST i would
have been like mad if he wasn't on. There Walter

(56:46):
scott From The whispers he just passed away, recently and
none of the members of that group are on, there
AND i feel like he should easily be on, There
LIKE i already, Mentioned Charlie wilson should be on this damn.
List so you, know El green is on. THERE i
was wondering where the heck he would. Be he's just
not as high AS i thought he should. Be a
lot of those type singers they made, it But Teddy
pendergrass just not high. Enough No hall Of, oates you,

(57:08):
know nobody from. THERE i think the only white artist
Was Tinu. Marie so it's AGAIN i gotta look up
what the criteria is because it seems like they were
just basing it on popularity and things of that. Nature
BECAUSE i, Mean beyonce's the fourth GREATEST r AND b
singer of all?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Time?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Him is that is that? Real like for? Real like
really she's the? BEST i don't, know, MAN i don't.
Know tell would you guys think hitting back with comments on?
That but definitely want to give. Up you, know a
resting piece Of Walter. Scott The whispers are one of
the all time GREAT r AND b bands and they
made some classics back in the. Day so don't. Sleep
we check out Some whispers songs and you get a.
CHANCE i don't think many members of the group are

(57:43):
even still alive, anymore except for his twin. Brother definitely
resting piece Of Walter. Scott so that's my take on that.
LIST i feel like it's missing a lot of, people
and there's some people way too high and some really low.
LISTINGS R KELLY dj beyond there put him in like
put make him like seventy four or something, like get
out of, here fucking R, kelly get out of here

(58:04):
with that this. List, Man let me crinkle up that. List,
now that was just for a. FACT i don't really
have a paper. List i'm just reading it on my,
phone BUT i just wanted to wanted to do, that you,
know theater of the. Mind crinkle it, up make it sound,
like go throw that. List let me throw this list?
There do you hear?

Speaker 4 (58:24):
That hope that came through the?

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Microphone trash? List stop making, Lists billboard and whoever. Else
stop pissing us old people, off putting all these young
cats in there that we don't even. KNOW i don't
know any songs By. SIZZA i don't even know who that.
Is all, right this is The infinite Banch of. Podcast
thanks for putting up with. Me big salute To Young

(58:45):
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Speaker 4 (59:09):
Things.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Man appreciate everybody does. That go check Out Young, sleep
look up his videos and things like, that and look
for his new. Project july twenty, Fifth Sleep city. Three
thanks for checking out the, show and SO i do
another one of, these. Man Charlie wilson has been on
that damn list that is just.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Crazy i'm out, Hey, ausole get off the.

Speaker 9 (59:26):
Road being on The Infinite fanner with my Man mark
has been a. Pleasure