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"Why I Stopped Debating Settled Opinions" IPS Deprogram 11/10/25

This summary is based on the IPS morning deprogram live stream from 11/10/2025, titled: **"Why it's pointless to debate settled opinions, why I stopped"**.

The episode focuses on the futility of debating individuals whose beliefs, whether mainstream or alternative, are entrenched—a state referred to as having "settled opinions". The host argues that attempting to convince these individuals is unproductive because their opinions are not rooted in objective reality or facts. Instead of debating, the host suggests studying these perspectives from an outside, anthropological standpoint.

### Core Argument and Perspective

The fundamental problem with engaging individuals who hold settled opinions is that their framework is flawed because they are trapped within the **duopoly** of mainstream and alternative perspectives, which the speaker likens to "Plato's cave dwellers".

The key quotes illustrating the host's stance include:

* "And when you're dealing with believers, **facts don't actually matter to them**".
* "So the mainstream does not have the right or the authority to be the **default arbiter of what is true**".
* "The fake stuff permeates the entire media ecosystem, and it dominates it. It is **given the spotlight**".
* "The only way out of this propaganda matrix is to recognize it for what it is. It's not just the media's lying. It's that the **world view that we get is based on the consensus agreement** on what happened yesterday, what happened last week, what happened last month".
* The paradigm shift offered by the IPS perspective is recognizing that **"the fake events are scheduled decades in advance"**.

The conversation emphasizes moving from being a "believer" to becoming a **"seeker"** who adopts the stance of the **"informed disbeliever,"** which holds more weight than "low information belief". This position is inherently skeptical, requiring the "suspension of judgment until we get more data".

The host also notes the appearance of "agents" or "liars" in the comment section who attempt to validate mainstream narratives regarding current events, like a recent plane crash in Kentucky. The host observes that the probability of having multiple comments claiming direct, one-degree separation from witnesses of a small-channel event is highly suspicious.

The host and a caller agreed on a term for those who defend the media:
* **"Media bodyguards"**: Individuals, sometimes referred to as "media advocates," who feel a moral obligation to defend the mainstream media's narrative and argue against media manipulation.

### Key Terms and Concepts

The broadcast defines several key terms fundamental to the IPS "off world stage" perspective:

* **Duopoly**: The closed informational system consisting of both mainstream media (the main cave) and alternative media (the alternative cave), both of which "assume the basic claims of the mainstream are valid".
* **Predictive Programming**: A form of strategic media planting, likened to "product placement for ideas, for situations, for events, for history". It is designed to set the audience up for something and influence future choices through suggestibility.
* **Concurrent Programming**: The undeniable phenomenon where entertainment content (like movies or shows) is released "at the exact same time as the event," proving the real-world event was planned in advance.
* **PsyOp Script**: The written plan that precedes the creation of the corresponding "psyop content" in culture and media for every fake event.
* **Forest of Fakery**: A concept describing the systemic nature of fakery, where truthers focus on a few "designated fake trees" (e.g., 9/11, Sandy Hook) and miss the big picture that "all the trees are fake".
* **News Bending/History Bending**: The long-term effects of news fakery, resulting in the distortion or proactive creation of our historical timeline.
* **Mandela Effect**: Defined as a "weaponized misinformation effect". This is a psychological operation used to "screw with [people's] memories" by altering recollections through present context and suggestion.
* **MAIDS (Mind Aids)**: A condition applied to people on the world stage, meaning their mental immune system has been compromised, making them vulnerable to "mind viruses" like logical fallacies and orthodox trutherisms.

### Conclusion

Ultimately, the host concludes that if individuals still operate within the mainstream narrative (the default) or the alternative media framework, they are within a closed system and are "close