September 9, 2025 • 66 mins
To Be Honest, we weren't expecting much from this Congressional Hearing on UAP that occurred on September 9, 2025. But were we wrong?!? Some critical information was released today and Jeremy breaks it all down here, right now! Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole!
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Welcome back to the Infinite Rabbit Hole.
I'm your host, Jeremy. Tonight we got some breaking
news and it's just me. No, Jeff.
No, nobody else. Just me.
Very, very minimal crowd. We got kid.
That's about it right now. That's OK.
We are live again, but I didn't announce it.
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So this is kind of just a impromptu reaction video to the
news that happened today. I mean, it's not not crazy
breaking news. I mean, technically it is.
It was scheduled news. I just didn't think that
anything was actually going to be released today that was going
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to be worth talking about. We had another congressional
hearing on UFOs and UIP today and that's what we're going to
talk about because there was some cool shit that got dropped,
including a new video, and that's what we're really going
to dive into. Before we get into that, though,
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just going to give you guys a brief breakdown of what
happened. So I, I quickly just wrote up a
very brief synopsis of everything that happened.
First thing, witness testimonies.
OK, well, there's four witnesses, three of them being
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military veterans. Alejandro Wiggins, Dylan
Borland, Jeffrey Nucatelli, I think his last name was, I can't
pronounce it, Nucatelli And journalist George Knapp.
OK, if you are listening to thispodcast and you don't know who
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George Knapp is, should look himup.
I'm I'm pretty sure you've seen his face at least once.
Testified today, all four of them about their UAP sightings,
emphasizing events that defy conventional explanations.
Nothing new there, right? We talked about the Tic Tac
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video again. Then we talked about a new bit
of information, the 100 foot triangular craft.
This was pretty interesting. I'll actually come back to that
here in a minute. Let me just finish my synopsis.
The second thing that we talked about during this congressional
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hearing was government transparency.
The hearing, which was chaired by Representative Anna Paulina
Luna, she's been an All Star in this whole thing.
She's been kicking ass and taking names, focused on pushing
for greater transparency from the Department of Defense and
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Intelligence communities regarding UAP sightings and
investigations, actually criticizing the excessive
secrecy behind it. Good honor.
How much of it is just theater? I don't know.
But she put on a hell of a show.I'll tell you what.
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And then basically right after that, after criticizing the
secrecy, she started calling forwhistleblower protections again.
Now, this is one of the big things we need this, OK?
One of the big fears is that when whistleblowers come
forward, they're not going to beprotected.
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It's a legitimate fear. These people who do have
something that they're holding onto aren't willing to come
forward because they fear for what the repercussions are.
Not much else to put out there. Then she went on and or actually
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it wasn't even her. It was her a little bit, but
mostly others really criticized Arrow.
For those that don't know what Arrow is, that's the all domain
anomaly Resolution office. This is the the program that
came after OSAP and a tip, the stuff that came after Louis
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Elizondo left. Basically, there's a lot of name
calling, OK, There's not a lot of trust with Arrow.
Basically Congress or or at least the representatives that
were there today are saying thatthey're fumbling.
They're not doing what they're supposed to be doing.
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Witnesses and lawmakers questionthe effectiveness of the
Pentagon's Arrow program, with some labeling it a potential
cover up and calling for more accountability.
All good stuff. Again, what's theater?
Don't know, but the words comingout of their mouths were good.
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Next one, national security concerns, and this is going to
stem from from the last topic. Testimonies underscored Uaps as
potential aviation and maritime safety risks, urging
declassification and further investigation to address
national security implications. Now, the big one, the big one
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we're going to talk about tonight, immediately after we go
back to that 100 foot triangularcraft, is this new video of the
Hellfire missile incident. Holy shit, this is wild.
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This is crazy. So basically there was a video
shown today by Representative Eric Burleson which depicted AUS
military drone firing a Hellfiremissile and striking an orb
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shaped UAP off of the Yemen coast in October 2024.
I don't have words for it. It's crazy.
Basically, the object was virtually unaffected.
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It got torn apart and then it came back together and just
continued flight and all the pieces that broke off of it flew
with it. My words aren't doing shit for
it. Let me let me tell you if you're
listening to this episode on Spotify or if you're listening
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to this on iTunes or anything where you're just listening to
this episode, I highly recommendto find a different platform.
OK, Spotify, you can, you can watch it on, but if you're on
the iTunes or wherever, go find it on YouTube.
Go watch the Twitch stream, go somewhere else, OK, Because I'm
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going to play some clips and these are fucking nuts.
That's all I got to say. They're wild.
They're going to blow your mind.They blew mine.
OK, now let's just say that you don't know who I am, all right?
Lot of lot of people that have been listening to Infinite
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Rabbit Hole for the five years that we've been around now know
that I come from Naval Aviation,OK, I'm very familiar with
Hellfires. This is not what's supposed to
happen. OK, Hellfire missiles are it's
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just we're we're going to get back into this.
Let's let's take let's break off.
Let me go back to the 100 foot triangular craft first, because
that's the much smaller story, but still warrants being talking
about. We'll get that knocked out of
the way. We'll come back to the Hellfire
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missile incident and we'll go into the videos because that's
that's just wild, wild shit. So during the congressional
hearing, Alejandro Wiggins, a former Navy aviation electronics
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technician. So for all of my fellow sailors
that listen to me now that were in squadrons with me or just
listen to me because I wasn't a fellow Airedale, he was an AT,
OK, I was AE. He's a fellow Avi.
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These are people that we know. He testified about observing an
100 foot triangular craft in 2014 off Virginia Beach while on
the Nimitz. The craft, described as a dark
matte triangle, was detected by radar and moved erratically at
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high speeds, defying known aerodynamics, Wiggins noted.
It was tracked for hours with novisible propulsion, and its
behavior suggested advanced technology not aligned with US
capabilities. OK, so why?
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Why is his testimony important so?
Well, it depends on where you put importance in.
OK, If you look at every other piece of testimony that's come
out, it's always been a high-ranking officer.
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This is enlisted. This is enlisted personnel.
I don't know what his rank was. I don't know if he was an E3E4.
I don't know if he was NCOI, don't know.
I don't know if he was a chief from above, no idea.
But this was not an officer. This wasn't an Admiral.
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This wasn't a commander. This wasn't David Fraver.
This wasn't a pilot. This was an AT.
This was an avionics technician.This was this was not a person I
knew personally, although I was stationed in Norfolk.
OK, I was right there. This is grunt work.
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This is somebody who worked on the avionics equipment in
aircraft, radar systems, communication systems.
This is who that was. This is the person that went out
there in trouble. Shot.
OK, Now a TS or Trons as we usedto playfully call them, did have
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some secret squirrel classifications that other rates
did not have in the Navy. So depending on what platform he
was on, let's say he was on E twos, the E2 Hawkeyes, right?
If nobody knows what those are, I'll show you what those are
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real quick. And yes, they are right there.
They're not in Virginia Beach, they're in Norfolk.
But let me tell you that let's just say he was an AT for one of
these guys right here show you, and I was an AE on one of these
in Patch River, Maryland. Here you go.
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All right, you got the Dome on top.
If he's back there troubleshooting, he could
absolutely track that 100%. There is 3 stations actually.
Here you go. You know it's been a while,
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right? But I believe the first one's
the RO, this is your radar operator.
And then I believe the back one's your ECO.
And then you're, I can't remember what the middle one is.
It's like you're flight officer or something.
I can't remember. But there, there's five officers
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that fly in this craft, your pilot, copilot, and then your
three, your, your three systems operators in the back.
And I'm not going to go into thewhole mission of the the
Hawkeye, but let's just say thatit definitely has the capability
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while on the ground weighed on wheels to do what he says that
he did for sure, 100% without question.
So, and Norfolk and Virginia Beach are close enough to where
if you're in Congress and you'reexplaining to the layman where
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you were, instead of saying thatyou were in Norfolk, you could
easily just say you were in Virginia Beach.
That's shit. I've done that hundreds of
times. Yeah.
Station Virginia Beach, 22 minute drive.
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Not far so. That's why I think that that
particular one is interesting. This was an enlisted guy that
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came forward. Now we know officers see shit,
all right? I've talked to pilots.
I've talked to pilots that see shit and they've never come
forward. OK, There was a stigma for a
very long time in the Navy whereyou just didn't talk about this
shit, OK? This is before I started the
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infinite rabbit hole. When I started the infinite
rabbit hole, I had a lot of pilots that I ended up having
these conversations with about strange things in the sky reach
out to me and say, dude, you can't tell my story.
And of course, I have no intentions of ever telling their
story, you know, and of course they always have an open door to
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come tell their story on my show, but I'll never tell their
story, right? I'm not going to do that to
them. That's changed ever since.
Also happened a tip. That's pretty much it for the
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100 foot triangular craft. But I wanted to point that out
because it is important that we're seeing that enlisted
personnel are coming forward. Again, it all depends on how
much you put into that basket. Me, I do put a little bit into
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that basket. Are there crazy enlisted people
out there? Hell yeah.
There's a lot of them. OK, so does that mean that he's
100% telling the truth? No, right.
But I I do find it interesting that we do finally have an
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enlisted personnel coming forward.
I find it very good. All right, let's move on to the
bread and butter for a minute because this shit is wild.
This is incredible. So before we before we really
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dive into it, I just want to I want to touch base on what a
Hellfire missile is. OK, now I cracked open a bunch
of old EAWS or enlisted AviationWarfare Specialist booklets and
study guides that I had and and grabbed as much information as I
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could on Hellfire missiles back just looking through the old
Aviation Ordinance men's portions.
And then of course it doesn't have everything.
So I had to Google some stuff and I created a nice little
script, nice little write up with some statistical facts
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about Hellfire missiles and thisis what I came up with all
right. So the AGM tech 114 Hellfire
missile used by the US military platforms like the MQ 9 Reaper
drone delivers devastating impact with these key details.
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Now I did write this after I wrote up the script about the
incidents today. Now the MQ 9 Reaper drone was
the drone that took the video ofwhat happened, so that's why I
use that specific aircraft. Just want to put that there.
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Hellfires can absolutely be shotfrom air ground, ground to
ground, air to air. OK, so it's not specific to the
MQ 9. Now the warhead itself is
typically 20 LB. It's a tip, typically a 20 LB
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high explosive anti tank. OK, the acronym for that is HEAT
High Explosive Anti Tank or Blast Fragmentation, designed to
penetrate armor or destroy soft targets.
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The speed of one of these missiles averages 1.3 Mach or
Mach 1.3. That is roughly 995 mph or 1600
kilometers per hour, basically ensuring rapid delivery.
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The impact force releases energyequivalent to about 100 mega
joules capable of destroying tanks, bunkers or structures,
and it does it with precision. These missiles are guided by
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lasers or radar. OK, and they're accurate from up
to 1 to 2 meters. The effect that these things
cause, it creates a high pressure blast, wave, shrapnel
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and intense heat up to 5000°C causing catastrophic damage to
most of the targets. Now, one thing that I need to
clarify before we move on is that a Hellfire missile does not
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strictly require impact with a hard surface to detonate.
And the reason why I put this here is because I bookmarked a
specific video that we're going to watch today.
This guy did an amazing job breaking this down and he made
one mistake. He said that the Hellfire
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missile does require a solid surface, so that's detonate.
And that's not true. Actually, it can be detonated
one of two ways. It could be detonated by
contact, by use of a contact fuse, or proximity by use of a
proximity fuse. So yes and no.
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If it was equipped with a contact fuse, then yes, right.
But it is unclear what that particular warhead was equipped
with. So I just wanted to put that out
there before we watch any of thevideos.
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So depending on what it was actually equipped with, this
video could be taken a couple different ways.
Either way, this is incredibly impressive, incredibly
impressive because no matter what, whether it was a contact
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fuse or it was a proximity fuse,I do believe that it should have
it should have detonated becauseit does not take a lot of
contact, a lot of pressure for aHellfire missile to detonate.
OK, let's let's just use a balloon for instance, OK, at one
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point or Mach 1.3, if you hit a balloon, the amount of force
that that thing is hitting the side of a balloon at will create
enough pressure in order to detonate, OK.
And a proximity fuse is basically a fuse that it it'll
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detonate near a target, OK. And it's not necessarily near a
certain target. It's near a target OK proximity
once it's within proximity of ofsomething physical.
Now you can have certain proximity fuses, right that are
that are guided by radar that I'm with such a small target
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that this was a highly, I highlydoubt that this was a radar
guided Hellfire. So I think we can eliminate
that. I actually believe that this was
probably a proximity fuse and not a contact fuse.
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So honestly, with a proximity fuse, even if this thing was a
weather balloon or even a ball plasma, the single fact that
there was solid matter there, plasma, you know, even being
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just a ball plasma, ball light should have been enough at 1.3
mocks to detonate it. OK, should have been, but we're
going to see. We're going to look at this
video now for the first time tonight.
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Now, I want to be clear, the video that I am about to show
you is from the Hill YouTube page, OK?
Now, I don't have my own copy ofthe video, so I'm going to Fast
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forward to the spot where needs to be and we are going to share
it. There we go and share.
All right, so this is Mr. Burleson, This is the guy who is
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sharing the video in order to not show you the entire Hill
video. Now, I do recommend anybody who
does have the time to go back and watch this whole
congressional here. It's really good.
OK, There's a lot that happened here, a lot of good
conversations. I do recommend it, but I am just
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going to show you the clip and then I'm going to cut it off.
We're not going to dive into thefront half or the back half of
the hills content that is theirs.
We're just going to utilize the content of the video that was
made public. All right, And here it is.
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And as as before it starts, I'm going to describe this was taken
October 30th of 2024. This video is of an MQ9 drone
tracking an orb or this object off the coast of Yemen.
You'll see that another MQ 9 launched A Hellfire missile that
you cannot see that drone. And so you'll and I'm, I'm not
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going to explain it to you, you'll see exactly what it does.
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Jeez. This is when is it zoomed out so
you can still see it traveling. And it's just continues.
To go So Mr. Knapp, do you have any, have you heard about, you
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know, events like this occurringand what, what, what you'll and
I'm not going to explain it to you.
You'll see exactly what. Here it is.
Let's watch this moment of contact again.
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OK, so I pause it right before you can see the Hellfire coming
in right here. OK, now we're going to watch a
video just after this of a guy breaking this portion down, this
part. And he he does such an amazing
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job at this. I actually reached out to him to
see if he'll come on the show and break it down for everybody
the way he did on his video. Hopefully he answers.
Doesn't always happen. Actually, it happens one out of
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maybe 15 times, but you got to try, right?
But man, just know that when he breaks it down, you're going to
see things that you're not goingto be able to see at this speed.
When he breaks it down and he slows it down and you see things
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that he points out, it's going to blow your mind.
You see those three things that fall off of it?
See them? You see these right here?
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Look at them and watch. Look at them.
Look at them. Chase it.
Look at these things. They're just flying with it.
Look at them. This is when it zoomed out so
you can still see it traveling. Absolutely wild, like nothing
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happened to it, so that's just nuts.
All right. And then another thing that
happened too was that the Hellfire missile did not
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detonate. I'm going to let the other guy
from the other video breakdown for you because he does such a
good job with this. This is, let me get his page up
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so you guys can see his page andeverything too.
There's actually 2 videos that we're going to watch, OK And
probably not going to watch the whole thing because I don't want
to take all of his stuff, OK? I'm not.
I'm not trying to take credit for anybody's work, but I do
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want to pass along you guys overto his work because he does a
hell of a job. He really does.
He does a really good job breaking it down.
Now he he did claim that it needs a solid surface.
It does not. OK, I can verify that, but let
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me share his screen. OK, this is Pro Pixel Video
Analysis and Research on X Bill Kurziak, Billy Kurzak.
OK, here he is. At this time it's 8:22 PM
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September 9th, 2025 and three hours ago he post this.
It's about 3 minute long video. We're not going to watch the
whole 3 minutes but we're going to watch the portion of it where
you get the gist of what the video is about.
OK, he does break it down immediately.
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I did repost and like this videoso you can go to the Infinite
Rabbit Hole X page and you'll see that I reposted it.
And please check this guy's stuff out.
OK? I followed him because this is
not the only video that he does this with.
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He does this with a lot of cool UAP videos.
I'm definitely happy that I found this guy, so let's go
ahead and take a look at what he's got to show.
All right, this video has stuff in here that I'm not seeing
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people talk about and it's it's really significant and I'm going
to show you immediately what's going on.
I'm zoomed in a little bit. I did a little bit work on the
color, so we see some contrast. I did no AI to this.
This is the pure video that was published today.
Here comes the Hellfire right? And you can see it hits it
impact impacts about right here.It looks like it's a little off
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center right about here. There's the impact.
What do you see missing, though?There's no flash.
There should be an energetic event.
There should be heat, lots of heat.
You should see this, You should see it.
There should be an explosion. This Hellfire did not detonate.
It actually passes through the object and goes off to the side
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here, right? That passes through and rips
open Whatever this is. And I'm going to call this a
carrier now because when it ripsit open, you can actually see
it's ripped here and these orbs emerge out of the tear, come
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right out of that where it's torn open.
This one was blown out from overhere.
These two you can see emerging from from it.
And then what's really interesting is watch the orbs
they lock in. Look at it.
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They go from inside to outside. Boom, look at that lock in boom
triangle formation. They're flying on their own.
There's some other pieces here. Don't know what this is.
This could be. I do know what those are.
Those are just artifacts of the flare itself.
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OK, You can see that they appearon the backside up here too.
There's reflections. So if you ever seen a FLIR, let
me see H60. We'll go with H61, right?
It's the same one. Well, we could we could look at
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the M9 MQ 9 FLIR. It's going to be just a ball.
All right, here we go. Let me open this up in a new
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window. Damn.
And all right, so this right here, this is your flare.
OK, That is your flare. You see this right here?
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That is where your camera is. OK, that glass reflects.
That's what it does. When you get a shiny object that
is recording, it will reflect. It is an artifact of the camera.
Not much you can do about it. Used to happen all the time for
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us when you when you have a shiny object that you're
recording, that's what happens. Let's go back to him.
So not much significance with those, those other pieces that
he's pointing out right there. Just those three, those three
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very significant. Don't know.
I don't even want to suppose what it is.
Maybe it's it could be like an energy emission.
It could just be parts of the actual egg here or carrier.
Basically a reflection off the. Glass Wow, this is this is
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something something different. So whatever that is, it's
reflecting like orbs we know. So whatever the object is, the
Hellfire needed something hard to detonate.
It just went right through it. So that's telling me this is a
soft object. It hits, changes direction,
actually is energetic enough where it really pushes the
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object hard to the side, and during that whatever was inside
of it gets ejected and they are very clearly operating on their
own. Which is wild.
Wow all right, I'm going to stophim there actually watch a
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really good portion of that. So I want to point out something
too that he didn't catch and I can't wait.
I I hope he does answer my call because I would love to share
some information that I know with him because you know, he
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does such good. He did a great job with that
breakdown. I want to share my knowledge
with them. I do.
If you guys, I can't remember ifI ever broke down the gimbal
video on this podcast. I know I've done it on other
podcasts, but if you ever seen the picture of the Gimbal UAP
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back when the the the congressional hearing happened
with Lieutenant David Fraver, the Gimbal UAP showed a very
unique artifact as well. There was a sort of glow around
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it all right. Now I'll bring it up, you guys,
you guys will obviously be very familiar with the image, but you
see the glow around this. OK, I'll bring the video back up
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that that gentleman was showing us and and dissecting, but it
also had a glow. Now we've been seeing, now that
this gimbal video has come out, we've been noticing that when in
white hot, we've been getting this artifact, this glowing
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artifact and how put off the famous how put off came up with
a theory as to what that could be.
His theory was that that could be a gravitational manipulation
field, what he called the bubble.
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I know I did break down at one time on Infinite rabbit hole the
concept of how Puthoff's theory behind external lighting on UFOs
and UAP. Same same concept, same exact
concept. Those white lights or any
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lights, the blue lights that they give off would be where the
fields are generated. These gravitational manipulation
fields are generated and the aura that you see around this
picture is what your is what theFLIR is picking up.
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It's picking up that gravitational manipulation field
that would be the reason why it can go in and out of multiple
domains without slowing down or damaging the craft at all.
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Multi domain meaning it can go from in the air to under the
ocean to back in the air to space to straight dive bomb from
space through the air into the ocean and not even cause a
splash in the water. The only way it can do that is
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by displacing gravity around it by removing matter around it.
This allows for the movement thethe obnoxious, the strange
movements that we see them do, the literal physics defying
movements that that are being recorded.
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Literally any being inside of that would be scrambled eggs
inside any human. With the technologies that we
have, without gravity, gravitational manipulation, we'd
be dead. I mean, we can't even deal with
Mach 6. These things go Mach 13, Mach 14
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sometimes, and then they do perfect 90° angles without
slowing down a bit, and then they go underwater without
creating a splash. Like they just phase into the
water and then like so here we have black hot or black hot.
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I believe this is so this is this would be, I want to say
this is cold, white cold, which would be black hot.
It could be the other way aroundbecause the Ocean's black.
OK, this could be white hot. But when?
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Because we know the gimbal film was white hot, right?
We know that the gimbal object was cold.
I'm assuming that this was blackhot, meaning that this object is
colder than the ocean, that's why the ocean is showing up.
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Black oceans typically cold, especially in October when this
was filmed. But if we go by the standard set
by the Gimbal film, this should be cold as well.
Either way, you have the aura. OK, you see it.
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It's right there as we're seeingin all these FLIR videos of UAP
Orb UA. PS It's there again.
So something is causing this aura.
OK, We don't get this aura when even when we're looking at
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lights with FLIR, we just get a blinding light.
OK, This isn't this isn't normal.
It's like something is literallybending the view of whatever
this is. This is super odd.
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OK, I can't explain this enough.This is this is like we're
watching Einstein's theory of relativity happening right here.
That's what this is. Matches it perfectly.
It's incredible. Then.
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Here that I'm not seeing people talk about and it's it's really
significant and I'm going to show you.
The Hellfire doesn't detonate, and I'm pretty sure it's a
proximity switch because if you're shooting at something
small like that, that's going fast, super fast.
I don't know how fast it was going, but you could see that
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thing was getting ass over that water.
You're not going to be using a pressure switch on that.
You're going to be using pressure switches on things like
tanks and buildings and shit. Use proximity switches on
something fast and small. That way when when you're 6 feet
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away from it, you can set that bitch off.
This thing fucking hits it. Immediately, what's going on I'm
zoomed in a little bit I did a little bit work on the color so
we see some contrast. I did no AI to this.
This is the pure video that was published today.
Here comes the Hellfire right and you can see it hits impacts
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about right here. It looks like it's a little off
center right about here. There's the.
That thing's moving at Mach 1.3.That Hellfire missile, it's
hitting with about 100 mega joules.
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Like it got through whatever technology it has, it made
contact, it physically altered, whatever that is.
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But it didn't detonate. That's wild.
That's beyond wild. The impact, What do you see
missing? Though?
There's no flash. There should be an energetic
event. There should be heat, lots of
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heat. You should see this, you should
see it. There should be an explosion.
This Hellfire did not detonate. It actually passes through the
object and goes off to the side here.
I'd be curious to see if it if it detonated once it hit the
water. Once it fell to the water, did
it detonate? I bet you it didn't.
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I bet you that thing fucking fell like a rock.
I bet you it was dead. I bet you that fucking UAP fried
the fuck out of it. You know, scary thing about
this, the real fucking scary thing about this everybody, the
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real scary thing is that if thisvideo is legit, is that a
Hellfire rocket is like we're Cavemen throwing sticks and
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stones. That technology is beyond our
understanding. That's the scary thing.
And that Hellfire rocket erases tanks out of existence.
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That's the scary thing. That's why I came on here
tonight. I understand there's, you know,
there's a lot of manipulation going on.
There's a lot of, you know, fakeshit going around.
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But let's just throw the idea out there that that this isn't
right. I'm not saying it isn't.
I'm not saying it is. If this is, if this is another
country's technology and it's not ours, we're fucked.
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But I don't think it's anybody else's technology.
I don't think it's another I, I,I don't think it's another
country's technology because human beings can't behave.
And if, if, if anybody in the human race had technology like
that, they'd use it. Ain't nobody stopping that shit.
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Did you see that fucking thing? There's no way, sadly, we
wouldn't be able to not use it against one one another.
We'd go take over the next chunkof land that we needed and
there's nothing that somebody else wouldn't be able to do.
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If this video is legit, that's anon human intelligence and it
took a fucking to a Hellfire missile like I was swatting to
fly. That's fucking scary, man.
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That's scary. That's scary shit.
It's like, man, what the fuck are they doing here?
What are they doing here? I don't know.
That's wild. That's fucking crazy.
I was not expecting that today. I was not expecting that today.
I was honestly expecting a big old nothing burger today,
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really. And I was expecting.
I was expecting like even when the Gimbal film came out, you
know, I mean, we were just excited that a video was
released to Congress, right. We didn't even know like a lot
of the stuff that got really released in it.
Like nobody had pointed out the corona that that was hidden in
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there. How put off hadn't come up with
his theories about the gravitational manipulation.
You know, Lieutenant David Fraver still didn't really
understand what what it was thathe saw.
And as people started dissectingthe video more and more and more
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stuff came out right. People were like, oh, did you
see this? Did you see that?
Did you see that? We don't one, we haven't had
that amount of time to go by yetto where more and more people
can dissect this stuff and change the filtering and, and
everything. You know, as days go by, weeks
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go by, we'll get more and more analysis done on these.
And I really believe we're goingto find some really cool shit.
But we're not even 12 hours pastyet.
Shoot, we're not even 10 hours or 8 and this shit's blowing my
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fucking mind. I know as a podcaster, you know
I'm supposed to come on here andentertain, right?
That's what a podcast is there for.
Let's come on here, get entertained, maybe learn
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Wasn't like I said, wasn't expecting to come on tonight.
Tried getting Jeff on, but he had to go no nights because he's
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Welcome back to the Infinite Rabbit Hole.
I'm your host, Jeremy. Tonight we got some breaking
news and it's just me. No, Jeff.
No, nobody else. Just me.
Very, very minimal crowd. We got kid.
That's about it right now. That's OK.
We are live again, but I didn't announce it.
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So this is kind of just a impromptu reaction video to the
news that happened today. I mean, it's not not crazy
breaking news. I mean, technically it is.
It was scheduled news. I just didn't think that
anything was actually going to be released today that was going
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to be worth talking about. We had another congressional
hearing on UFOs and UIP today and that's what we're going to
talk about because there was some cool shit that got dropped,
including a new video, and that's what we're really going
to dive into. Before we get into that, though,
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just going to give you guys a brief breakdown of what
happened. So I, I quickly just wrote up a
very brief synopsis of everything that happened.
First thing, witness testimonies.
OK, well, there's four witnesses, three of them being
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military veterans. Alejandro Wiggins, Dylan
Borland, Jeffrey Nucatelli, I think his last name was, I can't
pronounce it, Nucatelli And journalist George Knapp.
OK, if you are listening to thispodcast and you don't know who
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George Knapp is, should look himup.
I'm I'm pretty sure you've seen his face at least once.
Testified today, all four of them about their UAP sightings,
emphasizing events that defy conventional explanations.
Nothing new there, right? We talked about the Tic Tac
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video again. Then we talked about a new bit
of information, the 100 foot triangular craft.
This was pretty interesting. I'll actually come back to that
here in a minute. Let me just finish my synopsis.
The second thing that we talked about during this congressional
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hearing was government transparency.
The hearing, which was chaired by Representative Anna Paulina
Luna, she's been an All Star in this whole thing.
She's been kicking ass and taking names, focused on pushing
for greater transparency from the Department of Defense and
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Intelligence communities regarding UAP sightings and
investigations, actually criticizing the excessive
secrecy behind it. Good honor.
How much of it is just theater? I don't know.
But she put on a hell of a show.I'll tell you what.
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And then basically right after that, after criticizing the
secrecy, she started calling forwhistleblower protections again.
Now, this is one of the big things we need this, OK?
One of the big fears is that when whistleblowers come
forward, they're not going to beprotected.
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It's a legitimate fear. These people who do have
something that they're holding onto aren't willing to come
forward because they fear for what the repercussions are.
Not much else to put out there. Then she went on and or actually
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it wasn't even her. It was her a little bit, but
mostly others really criticized Arrow.
For those that don't know what Arrow is, that's the all domain
anomaly Resolution office. This is the the program that
came after OSAP and a tip, the stuff that came after Louis
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Elizondo left. Basically, there's a lot of name
calling, OK, There's not a lot of trust with Arrow.
Basically Congress or or at least the representatives that
were there today are saying thatthey're fumbling.
They're not doing what they're supposed to be doing.
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Witnesses and lawmakers questionthe effectiveness of the
Pentagon's Arrow program, with some labeling it a potential
cover up and calling for more accountability.
All good stuff. Again, what's theater?
Don't know, but the words comingout of their mouths were good.
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Next one, national security concerns, and this is going to
stem from from the last topic. Testimonies underscored Uaps as
potential aviation and maritime safety risks, urging
declassification and further investigation to address
national security implications. Now, the big one, the big one
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we're going to talk about tonight, immediately after we go
back to that 100 foot triangularcraft, is this new video of the
Hellfire missile incident. Holy shit, this is wild.
(06:40):
This is crazy. So basically there was a video
shown today by Representative Eric Burleson which depicted AUS
military drone firing a Hellfiremissile and striking an orb
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shaped UAP off of the Yemen coast in October 2024.
I don't have words for it. It's crazy.
Basically, the object was virtually unaffected.
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It got torn apart and then it came back together and just
continued flight and all the pieces that broke off of it flew
with it. My words aren't doing shit for
it. Let me let me tell you if you're
listening to this episode on Spotify or if you're listening
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to this on iTunes or anything where you're just listening to
this episode, I highly recommendto find a different platform.
OK, Spotify, you can, you can watch it on, but if you're on
the iTunes or wherever, go find it on YouTube.
Go watch the Twitch stream, go somewhere else, OK, Because I'm
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going to play some clips and these are fucking nuts.
That's all I got to say. They're wild.
They're going to blow your mind.They blew mine.
OK, now let's just say that you don't know who I am, all right?
Lot of lot of people that have been listening to Infinite
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Rabbit Hole for the five years that we've been around now know
that I come from Naval Aviation,OK, I'm very familiar with
Hellfires. This is not what's supposed to
happen. OK, Hellfire missiles are it's
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just we're we're going to get back into this.
Let's let's take let's break off.
Let me go back to the 100 foot triangular craft first, because
that's the much smaller story, but still warrants being talking
about. We'll get that knocked out of
the way. We'll come back to the Hellfire
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missile incident and we'll go into the videos because that's
that's just wild, wild shit. So during the congressional
hearing, Alejandro Wiggins, a former Navy aviation electronics
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technician. So for all of my fellow sailors
that listen to me now that were in squadrons with me or just
listen to me because I wasn't a fellow Airedale, he was an AT,
OK, I was AE. He's a fellow Avi.
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These are people that we know. He testified about observing an
100 foot triangular craft in 2014 off Virginia Beach while on
the Nimitz. The craft, described as a dark
matte triangle, was detected by radar and moved erratically at
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high speeds, defying known aerodynamics, Wiggins noted.
It was tracked for hours with novisible propulsion, and its
behavior suggested advanced technology not aligned with US
capabilities. OK, so why?
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Why is his testimony important so?
Well, it depends on where you put importance in.
OK, If you look at every other piece of testimony that's come
out, it's always been a high-ranking officer.
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This is enlisted. This is enlisted personnel.
I don't know what his rank was. I don't know if he was an E3E4.
I don't know if he was NCOI, don't know.
I don't know if he was a chief from above, no idea.
But this was not an officer. This wasn't an Admiral.
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This wasn't a commander. This wasn't David Fraver.
This wasn't a pilot. This was an AT.
This was an avionics technician.This was this was not a person I
knew personally, although I was stationed in Norfolk.
OK, I was right there. This is grunt work.
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This is somebody who worked on the avionics equipment in
aircraft, radar systems, communication systems.
This is who that was. This is the person that went out
there in trouble. Shot.
OK, Now a TS or Trons as we usedto playfully call them, did have
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some secret squirrel classifications that other rates
did not have in the Navy. So depending on what platform he
was on, let's say he was on E twos, the E2 Hawkeyes, right?
If nobody knows what those are, I'll show you what those are
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real quick. And yes, they are right there.
They're not in Virginia Beach, they're in Norfolk.
But let me tell you that let's just say he was an AT for one of
these guys right here show you, and I was an AE on one of these
in Patch River, Maryland. Here you go.
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All right, you got the Dome on top.
If he's back there troubleshooting, he could
absolutely track that 100%. There is 3 stations actually.
Here you go. You know it's been a while,
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right? But I believe the first one's
the RO, this is your radar operator.
And then I believe the back one's your ECO.
And then you're, I can't remember what the middle one is.
It's like you're flight officer or something.
I can't remember. But there, there's five officers
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that fly in this craft, your pilot, copilot, and then your
three, your, your three systems operators in the back.
And I'm not going to go into thewhole mission of the the
Hawkeye, but let's just say thatit definitely has the capability
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while on the ground weighed on wheels to do what he says that
he did for sure, 100% without question.
So, and Norfolk and Virginia Beach are close enough to where
if you're in Congress and you'reexplaining to the layman where
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you were, instead of saying thatyou were in Norfolk, you could
easily just say you were in Virginia Beach.
That's shit. I've done that hundreds of
times. Yeah.
Station Virginia Beach, 22 minute drive.
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Not far so. That's why I think that that
particular one is interesting. This was an enlisted guy that
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came forward. Now we know officers see shit,
all right? I've talked to pilots.
I've talked to pilots that see shit and they've never come
forward. OK, There was a stigma for a
very long time in the Navy whereyou just didn't talk about this
shit, OK? This is before I started the
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infinite rabbit hole. When I started the infinite
rabbit hole, I had a lot of pilots that I ended up having
these conversations with about strange things in the sky reach
out to me and say, dude, you can't tell my story.
And of course, I have no intentions of ever telling their
story, you know, and of course they always have an open door to
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come tell their story on my show, but I'll never tell their
story, right? I'm not going to do that to
them. That's changed ever since.
Also happened a tip. That's pretty much it for the
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100 foot triangular craft. But I wanted to point that out
because it is important that we're seeing that enlisted
personnel are coming forward. Again, it all depends on how
much you put into that basket. Me, I do put a little bit into
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that basket. Are there crazy enlisted people
out there? Hell yeah.
There's a lot of them. OK, so does that mean that he's
100% telling the truth? No, right.
But I I do find it interesting that we do finally have an
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enlisted personnel coming forward.
I find it very good. All right, let's move on to the
bread and butter for a minute because this shit is wild.
This is incredible. So before we before we really
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dive into it, I just want to I want to touch base on what a
Hellfire missile is. OK, now I cracked open a bunch
of old EAWS or enlisted AviationWarfare Specialist booklets and
study guides that I had and and grabbed as much information as I
(18:24):
could on Hellfire missiles back just looking through the old
Aviation Ordinance men's portions.
And then of course it doesn't have everything.
So I had to Google some stuff and I created a nice little
script, nice little write up with some statistical facts
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about Hellfire missiles and thisis what I came up with all
right. So the AGM tech 114 Hellfire
missile used by the US military platforms like the MQ 9 Reaper
drone delivers devastating impact with these key details.
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Now I did write this after I wrote up the script about the
incidents today. Now the MQ 9 Reaper drone was
the drone that took the video ofwhat happened, so that's why I
use that specific aircraft. Just want to put that there.
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Hellfires can absolutely be shotfrom air ground, ground to
ground, air to air. OK, so it's not specific to the
MQ 9. Now the warhead itself is
typically 20 LB. It's a tip, typically a 20 LB
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high explosive anti tank. OK, the acronym for that is HEAT
High Explosive Anti Tank or Blast Fragmentation, designed to
penetrate armor or destroy soft targets.
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The speed of one of these missiles averages 1.3 Mach or
Mach 1.3. That is roughly 995 mph or 1600
kilometers per hour, basically ensuring rapid delivery.
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The impact force releases energyequivalent to about 100 mega
joules capable of destroying tanks, bunkers or structures,
and it does it with precision. These missiles are guided by
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lasers or radar. OK, and they're accurate from up
to 1 to 2 meters. The effect that these things
cause, it creates a high pressure blast, wave, shrapnel
(21:25):
and intense heat up to 5000°C causing catastrophic damage to
most of the targets. Now, one thing that I need to
clarify before we move on is that a Hellfire missile does not
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strictly require impact with a hard surface to detonate.
And the reason why I put this here is because I bookmarked a
specific video that we're going to watch today.
This guy did an amazing job breaking this down and he made
one mistake. He said that the Hellfire
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missile does require a solid surface, so that's detonate.
And that's not true. Actually, it can be detonated
one of two ways. It could be detonated by
contact, by use of a contact fuse, or proximity by use of a
proximity fuse. So yes and no.
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If it was equipped with a contact fuse, then yes, right.
But it is unclear what that particular warhead was equipped
with. So I just wanted to put that out
there before we watch any of thevideos.
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So depending on what it was actually equipped with, this
video could be taken a couple different ways.
Either way, this is incredibly impressive, incredibly
impressive because no matter what, whether it was a contact
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fuse or it was a proximity fuse,I do believe that it should have
it should have detonated becauseit does not take a lot of
contact, a lot of pressure for aHellfire missile to detonate.
OK, let's let's just use a balloon for instance, OK, at one
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point or Mach 1.3, if you hit a balloon, the amount of force
that that thing is hitting the side of a balloon at will create
enough pressure in order to detonate, OK.
And a proximity fuse is basically a fuse that it it'll
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detonate near a target, OK. And it's not necessarily near a
certain target. It's near a target OK proximity
once it's within proximity of ofsomething physical.
Now you can have certain proximity fuses, right that are
that are guided by radar that I'm with such a small target
(24:36):
that this was a highly, I highlydoubt that this was a radar
guided Hellfire. So I think we can eliminate
that. I actually believe that this was
probably a proximity fuse and not a contact fuse.
(25:00):
So honestly, with a proximity fuse, even if this thing was a
weather balloon or even a ball plasma, the single fact that
there was solid matter there, plasma, you know, even being
(25:21):
just a ball plasma, ball light should have been enough at 1.3
mocks to detonate it. OK, should have been, but we're
going to see. We're going to look at this
video now for the first time tonight.
(25:44):
Now, I want to be clear, the video that I am about to show
you is from the Hill YouTube page, OK?
Now, I don't have my own copy ofthe video, so I'm going to Fast
(26:07):
forward to the spot where needs to be and we are going to share
it. There we go and share.
All right, so this is Mr. Burleson, This is the guy who is
(26:33):
sharing the video in order to not show you the entire Hill
video. Now, I do recommend anybody who
does have the time to go back and watch this whole
congressional here. It's really good.
OK, There's a lot that happened here, a lot of good
conversations. I do recommend it, but I am just
(26:57):
going to show you the clip and then I'm going to cut it off.
We're not going to dive into thefront half or the back half of
the hills content that is theirs.
We're just going to utilize the content of the video that was
made public. All right, And here it is.
(27:20):
And as as before it starts, I'm going to describe this was taken
October 30th of 2024. This video is of an MQ9 drone
tracking an orb or this object off the coast of Yemen.
You'll see that another MQ 9 launched A Hellfire missile that
you cannot see that drone. And so you'll and I'm, I'm not
(27:44):
going to explain it to you, you'll see exactly what it does.
(28:11):
Jeez. This is when is it zoomed out so
you can still see it traveling. And it's just continues.
To go So Mr. Knapp, do you have any, have you heard about, you
(28:38):
know, events like this occurringand what, what, what you'll and
I'm not going to explain it to you.
You'll see exactly what. Here it is.
Let's watch this moment of contact again.
(28:58):
OK, so I pause it right before you can see the Hellfire coming
in right here. OK, now we're going to watch a
video just after this of a guy breaking this portion down, this
part. And he he does such an amazing
(29:22):
job at this. I actually reached out to him to
see if he'll come on the show and break it down for everybody
the way he did on his video. Hopefully he answers.
Doesn't always happen. Actually, it happens one out of
(29:43):
maybe 15 times, but you got to try, right?
But man, just know that when he breaks it down, you're going to
see things that you're not goingto be able to see at this speed.
When he breaks it down and he slows it down and you see things
(30:05):
that he points out, it's going to blow your mind.
You see those three things that fall off of it?
See them? You see these right here?
(30:34):
Look at them and watch. Look at them.
Look at them. Chase it.
Look at these things. They're just flying with it.
Look at them. This is when it zoomed out so
you can still see it traveling. Absolutely wild, like nothing
(30:55):
happened to it, so that's just nuts.
All right. And then another thing that
happened too was that the Hellfire missile did not
(31:15):
detonate. I'm going to let the other guy
from the other video breakdown for you because he does such a
good job with this. This is, let me get his page up
(31:39):
so you guys can see his page andeverything too.
There's actually 2 videos that we're going to watch, OK And
probably not going to watch the whole thing because I don't want
to take all of his stuff, OK? I'm not.
I'm not trying to take credit for anybody's work, but I do
(32:00):
want to pass along you guys overto his work because he does a
hell of a job. He really does.
He does a really good job breaking it down.
Now he he did claim that it needs a solid surface.
It does not. OK, I can verify that, but let
(32:24):
me share his screen. OK, this is Pro Pixel Video
Analysis and Research on X Bill Kurziak, Billy Kurzak.
OK, here he is. At this time it's 8:22 PM
(32:55):
September 9th, 2025 and three hours ago he post this.
It's about 3 minute long video. We're not going to watch the
whole 3 minutes but we're going to watch the portion of it where
you get the gist of what the video is about.
OK, he does break it down immediately.
(33:16):
I did repost and like this videoso you can go to the Infinite
Rabbit Hole X page and you'll see that I reposted it.
And please check this guy's stuff out.
OK? I followed him because this is
not the only video that he does this with.
(33:36):
He does this with a lot of cool UAP videos.
I'm definitely happy that I found this guy, so let's go
ahead and take a look at what he's got to show.
All right, this video has stuff in here that I'm not seeing
(33:57):
people talk about and it's it's really significant and I'm going
to show you immediately what's going on.
I'm zoomed in a little bit. I did a little bit work on the
color, so we see some contrast. I did no AI to this.
This is the pure video that was published today.
Here comes the Hellfire right? And you can see it hits it
impact impacts about right here.It looks like it's a little off
(34:21):
center right about here. There's the impact.
What do you see missing, though?There's no flash.
There should be an energetic event.
There should be heat, lots of heat.
You should see this, You should see it.
There should be an explosion. This Hellfire did not detonate.
It actually passes through the object and goes off to the side
(34:42):
here, right? That passes through and rips
open Whatever this is. And I'm going to call this a
carrier now because when it ripsit open, you can actually see
it's ripped here and these orbs emerge out of the tear, come
(35:06):
right out of that where it's torn open.
This one was blown out from overhere.
These two you can see emerging from from it.
And then what's really interesting is watch the orbs
they lock in. Look at it.
(35:26):
They go from inside to outside. Boom, look at that lock in boom
triangle formation. They're flying on their own.
There's some other pieces here. Don't know what this is.
This could be. I do know what those are.
Those are just artifacts of the flare itself.
(35:48):
OK, You can see that they appearon the backside up here too.
There's reflections. So if you ever seen a FLIR, let
me see H60. We'll go with H61, right?
It's the same one. Well, we could we could look at
(36:08):
the M9 MQ 9 FLIR. It's going to be just a ball.
All right, here we go. Let me open this up in a new
(36:29):
window. Damn.
And all right, so this right here, this is your flare.
OK, That is your flare. You see this right here?
(36:50):
That is where your camera is. OK, that glass reflects.
That's what it does. When you get a shiny object that
is recording, it will reflect. It is an artifact of the camera.
Not much you can do about it. Used to happen all the time for
(37:12):
us when you when you have a shiny object that you're
recording, that's what happens. Let's go back to him.
So not much significance with those, those other pieces that
he's pointing out right there. Just those three, those three
(37:35):
very significant. Don't know.
I don't even want to suppose what it is.
Maybe it's it could be like an energy emission.
It could just be parts of the actual egg here or carrier.
Basically a reflection off the. Glass Wow, this is this is
(37:57):
something something different. So whatever that is, it's
reflecting like orbs we know. So whatever the object is, the
Hellfire needed something hard to detonate.
It just went right through it. So that's telling me this is a
soft object. It hits, changes direction,
actually is energetic enough where it really pushes the
(38:18):
object hard to the side, and during that whatever was inside
of it gets ejected and they are very clearly operating on their
own. Which is wild.
Wow all right, I'm going to stophim there actually watch a
(38:41):
really good portion of that. So I want to point out something
too that he didn't catch and I can't wait.
I I hope he does answer my call because I would love to share
some information that I know with him because you know, he
(39:05):
does such good. He did a great job with that
breakdown. I want to share my knowledge
with them. I do.
If you guys, I can't remember ifI ever broke down the gimbal
video on this podcast. I know I've done it on other
podcasts, but if you ever seen the picture of the Gimbal UAP
(39:36):
back when the the the congressional hearing happened
with Lieutenant David Fraver, the Gimbal UAP showed a very
unique artifact as well. There was a sort of glow around
(40:03):
it all right. Now I'll bring it up, you guys,
you guys will obviously be very familiar with the image, but you
see the glow around this. OK, I'll bring the video back up
(40:30):
that that gentleman was showing us and and dissecting, but it
also had a glow. Now we've been seeing, now that
this gimbal video has come out, we've been noticing that when in
white hot, we've been getting this artifact, this glowing
(40:53):
artifact and how put off the famous how put off came up with
a theory as to what that could be.
His theory was that that could be a gravitational manipulation
field, what he called the bubble.
(41:19):
I know I did break down at one time on Infinite rabbit hole the
concept of how Puthoff's theory behind external lighting on UFOs
and UAP. Same same concept, same exact
concept. Those white lights or any
(41:43):
lights, the blue lights that they give off would be where the
fields are generated. These gravitational manipulation
fields are generated and the aura that you see around this
picture is what your is what theFLIR is picking up.
(42:06):
It's picking up that gravitational manipulation field
that would be the reason why it can go in and out of multiple
domains without slowing down or damaging the craft at all.
(42:29):
Multi domain meaning it can go from in the air to under the
ocean to back in the air to space to straight dive bomb from
space through the air into the ocean and not even cause a
splash in the water. The only way it can do that is
(42:51):
by displacing gravity around it by removing matter around it.
This allows for the movement thethe obnoxious, the strange
movements that we see them do, the literal physics defying
movements that that are being recorded.
(43:17):
Literally any being inside of that would be scrambled eggs
inside any human. With the technologies that we
have, without gravity, gravitational manipulation, we'd
be dead. I mean, we can't even deal with
Mach 6. These things go Mach 13, Mach 14
(43:41):
sometimes, and then they do perfect 90° angles without
slowing down a bit, and then they go underwater without
creating a splash. Like they just phase into the
water and then like so here we have black hot or black hot.
(44:17):
I believe this is so this is this would be, I want to say
this is cold, white cold, which would be black hot.
It could be the other way aroundbecause the Ocean's black.
OK, this could be white hot. But when?
(44:38):
Because we know the gimbal film was white hot, right?
We know that the gimbal object was cold.
I'm assuming that this was blackhot, meaning that this object is
colder than the ocean, that's why the ocean is showing up.
(45:01):
Black oceans typically cold, especially in October when this
was filmed. But if we go by the standard set
by the Gimbal film, this should be cold as well.
Either way, you have the aura. OK, you see it.
(45:26):
It's right there as we're seeingin all these FLIR videos of UAP
Orb UA. PS It's there again.
So something is causing this aura.
OK, We don't get this aura when even when we're looking at
(45:46):
lights with FLIR, we just get a blinding light.
OK, This isn't this isn't normal.
It's like something is literallybending the view of whatever
this is. This is super odd.
(46:07):
OK, I can't explain this enough.This is this is like we're
watching Einstein's theory of relativity happening right here.
That's what this is. Matches it perfectly.
It's incredible. Then.
(46:31):
Here that I'm not seeing people talk about and it's it's really
significant and I'm going to show you.
The Hellfire doesn't detonate, and I'm pretty sure it's a
proximity switch because if you're shooting at something
small like that, that's going fast, super fast.
I don't know how fast it was going, but you could see that
(46:54):
thing was getting ass over that water.
You're not going to be using a pressure switch on that.
You're going to be using pressure switches on things like
tanks and buildings and shit. Use proximity switches on
something fast and small. That way when when you're 6 feet
(47:17):
away from it, you can set that bitch off.
This thing fucking hits it. Immediately, what's going on I'm
zoomed in a little bit I did a little bit work on the color so
we see some contrast. I did no AI to this.
This is the pure video that was published today.
Here comes the Hellfire right and you can see it hits impacts
(47:42):
about right here. It looks like it's a little off
center right about here. There's the.
That thing's moving at Mach 1.3.That Hellfire missile, it's
hitting with about 100 mega joules.
(48:10):
Like it got through whatever technology it has, it made
contact, it physically altered, whatever that is.
(48:31):
But it didn't detonate. That's wild.
That's beyond wild. The impact, What do you see
missing? Though?
There's no flash. There should be an energetic
event. There should be heat, lots of
(48:53):
heat. You should see this, you should
see it. There should be an explosion.
This Hellfire did not detonate. It actually passes through the
object and goes off to the side here.
I'd be curious to see if it if it detonated once it hit the
water. Once it fell to the water, did
it detonate? I bet you it didn't.
(49:16):
I bet you that thing fucking fell like a rock.
I bet you it was dead. I bet you that fucking UAP fried
the fuck out of it. You know, scary thing about
this, the real fucking scary thing about this everybody, the
(49:40):
real scary thing is that if thisvideo is legit, is that a
Hellfire rocket is like we're Cavemen throwing sticks and
(50:01):
stones. That technology is beyond our
understanding. That's the scary thing.
And that Hellfire rocket erases tanks out of existence.
(50:29):
That's the scary thing. That's why I came on here
tonight. I understand there's, you know,
there's a lot of manipulation going on.
There's a lot of, you know, fakeshit going around.
(50:57):
But let's just throw the idea out there that that this isn't
right. I'm not saying it isn't.
I'm not saying it is. If this is, if this is another
country's technology and it's not ours, we're fucked.
(51:21):
But I don't think it's anybody else's technology.
I don't think it's another I, I,I don't think it's another
country's technology because human beings can't behave.
And if, if, if anybody in the human race had technology like
that, they'd use it. Ain't nobody stopping that shit.
(51:43):
Did you see that fucking thing? There's no way, sadly, we
wouldn't be able to not use it against one one another.
We'd go take over the next chunkof land that we needed and
there's nothing that somebody else wouldn't be able to do.
(52:04):
If this video is legit, that's anon human intelligence and it
took a fucking to a Hellfire missile like I was swatting to
fly. That's fucking scary, man.
(52:28):
That's scary. That's scary shit.
It's like, man, what the fuck are they doing here?
What are they doing here? I don't know.
That's wild. That's fucking crazy.
I was not expecting that today. I was not expecting that today.
I was honestly expecting a big old nothing burger today,
(52:50):
really. And I was expecting.
I was expecting like even when the Gimbal film came out, you
know, I mean, we were just excited that a video was
released to Congress, right. We didn't even know like a lot
of the stuff that got really released in it.
Like nobody had pointed out the corona that that was hidden in
(53:11):
there. How put off hadn't come up with
his theories about the gravitational manipulation.
You know, Lieutenant David Fraver still didn't really
understand what what it was thathe saw.
And as people started dissectingthe video more and more and more
(53:34):
stuff came out right. People were like, oh, did you
see this? Did you see that?
Did you see that? We don't one, we haven't had
that amount of time to go by yetto where more and more people
can dissect this stuff and change the filtering and, and
everything. You know, as days go by, weeks
(53:55):
go by, we'll get more and more analysis done on these.
And I really believe we're goingto find some really cool shit.
But we're not even 12 hours pastyet.
Shoot, we're not even 10 hours or 8 and this shit's blowing my
(54:19):
fucking mind. I know as a podcaster, you know
I'm supposed to come on here andentertain, right?
That's what a podcast is there for.
Let's come on here, get entertained, maybe learn
something, whatever. But I hope that you guys got
(54:49):
something on the out of today's episode.
Wasn't like I said, wasn't expecting to come on tonight.
Tried getting Jeff on, but he had to go no nights because he's
sleepy, Very, very sleepy. That's OK.
(55:10):
He's a he's tuckered out. What it is, what it is, and I'm
just I'm just not. But all right, now that all
(55:31):
that's out of the way, I'm goingto go ahead and plug two things.
I like to put it at the end. I don't I don't like the flood
at the beginning. What will get cut out or what
I'm pretty sure I'll cut out. I'm not sure because I'm super
tired right now and I do want toget this episode out tonight so
that people can enjoy it tomorrow morning.
(55:53):
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for you. And then if you haven't been to
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done for The Infinite Rabbit Hole has never ended.
My writing of scripts, my constant reading, my constant
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Let's let's show you guys that. If you guys don't care about it,
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Used to have a fucking gnarly beard.
You can leave a review. You can go to this little
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at the front of an episode. All kinds of stuff you can do
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You click it and then it brings you to our Merc shop, and here
(59:02):
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collections up here. Yeah, you got the Vasokeep
collection, specialty Logos, topic collection.
Now a lot of these are still here from when Jake populated
them. And this is just like a
collection of everything. So what's really cool about this
(59:24):
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Red Bubble, you can click on anyof these designs, right?
Or one of these collections of designs, let's say.
We'll just go to the official logos, right, And you can click
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We'll go to the basic logo, all right, and it's going to bring
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You don't have to get the hoodiewith with the basic logo.
You can Scroll down and you can literally get whatever the fuck
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Look at all these products with our logo on it.
Look at this shit. Look at it all.
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A backpack. Send your kids to school in
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That's cool. And you can go outside and grill
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Shoot me a message and I'll makeit happen.
OK? I made the regular infinite
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You can get a phone case. She's happy.
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think. I don't know.
If you don't, then you don't. It's up to you.
You could just not get it. But yeah, so enjoy.
I had fun. I'm going to upload a whole
bunch of stuff to it. I know I've been getting a lot
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of people asking about the UFO Days T-shirt.
I don't know if I'm going to upload that.
I don't think I'm going to. The reason why is because I want
to keep that UFO Days exclusive because I want to pull people to
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So we'll see. We'll see.
Maybe maybe I'll run that shirt or that logo during the weekend
of UFO Days on our website. Be like a the only way you can
get it on the website is during that time.
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I think that maybe I'll do that.That'd be fun.
You got to remind me though, because I'm going to forget.
But anyways, not much else, justthose those two things.
Please go over to the social Facebook or X vote in the poll
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I appreciate everyone who showedup tonight, kid, I know you're
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Appreciate you taking the time checking it out.
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