236. Dissecting Events: Charlie Kirk

Join us as we delve into the controversial and thought-provoking events surrounding the Charlie Kirk assassination that has held the world's attention since it occurred. In this episode, we explore the layers of conspiracy, media narratives, and the broader implications of this high-profile incident. With a focus on critical analysis and open dialogue, we aim to uncover the truths and myths that have captured public attention. Tune in for an engaging conversation that challenges perspectives and invites listeners to question the status quo. Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole!

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Episode Transcript

(00:38):
Welcome back to the Infinite Rabbit Hole.
I'm your host, Jeremy. Tonight we are going to talk
about something, something pretty sensitive.
We're going to talk about what everyone else is talking about
right now. Listener discretion advised.
We're going to talk about some pretty brutal things.

(01:00):
We did have a guest tonight, yes, that person.
This is sort of a sore subject, but next week we do have a guest
coming on and we'll jump right back into some of the older
topics that we're, you know, used to talking about cryptids

(01:21):
and such kind of excited about that Jump back into that world.
Make Jeff the one that's super awkward and not knowing what to
say, texting me saying that he'sgoing to go to bed and cutting
out early. But tonight we're going to be

(01:42):
fully embedded into into Jeff's world, getting really deep into
the conspiracy side of things. If you if you've been living
under a rock, you've missed major news.

(02:03):
There was an assassination on political speaker, conservative
right wing speaker Charlie Kirk.I'm sure everybody's heard of
this by now. Sorry, but we're going to talk

(02:27):
about this as well. I've also gotten feedback on a
brand new review of the show from somebody.
I don't know who it is, but somebody said that if we ever
stop saying the word, they'll come back and listen to the
show. That will never happen.
Digital ass hat back again. No, somebody different.

(02:50):
I give a shit. That's how we speak.
Yes. We're not professional speakers.
I've had people make that comment on my page too.
They said that. I said, you know what I mean?
Too much, You know what I mean? So.
I do know what you mean. We're not professional speakers,

(03:10):
man. We're just a couple of in our
home studio on a podcast. OK, It's not, it's not that
serious. Chill out.
Listen, I get a half a penny foryour 60 seconds of play time,
OK? Whether you listen to this for
60 seconds or 60 minutes, be 1/2a penny.
So yeah. I'm not.

(03:30):
I'm not. Going to take speech class so I
can get your half a penny. Sorry man, not going to happen.
Do this because I love it, but listener discretion advise
there's going to be some sensitive things there's going
to be some some deep dives into into some subjects that are

(03:51):
probably going to piss some people off.
Just being honest with you guys.I'm of course not going to dive
much into politics. I'm going to try to stay
politically neutral as I do withmy everyday life, but there are

(04:12):
aspects of this entire story that are going to bring certain
political aspects to to be talking points tonight.
So with that being said, if thisis something you don't want to
hear back out now. I don't blame you.

(04:32):
A lot of people are talking about this.
But if you want to hear our, ourperspectives, our thought
processes on this entire thing and where we stand, not
necessarily politically or whatnot, but what we're taking
from all of this, then hang tight.

(04:54):
And I can guarantee you that at least for me, you'll see at
least something new. I'm sure Jeff has looked at this
and done what Jeff does with allof this stuff.
He's going to bring something upthat that you probably haven't

(05:14):
thought about or you know, you haven't done layers of research
into in the past. So you don't have the, the
background knowledge to, to makethe connections.
So sorry, just not not very excited to do this topic, but

(05:39):
I'm here to do it. This is I was I was talking to
Jeff before this. Still feel like there's a sort
of an obligation to at least talk a bit.
So I'm here for it. Jeff, is there anything you want
to put out there before we get going?

(06:00):
Not really. I do feel like I'm getting a
sinus infection, so if you guys hear me sniffling into the mic,
I apologize. It's not nose candy, I promise.
I just my sinus infection, I'm my allergies have been killing
me today, so bear with it. You know, we're going to get
into some stuff in like, you know, there's some conspiracy

(06:21):
related things to this whole Charlie Kirk mess, to be honest
with you. And you know, I don't want to be
looked at like one of these guysthat's are out here, that's out
here like, you know, praising the situation because it's
definitely not the case. I think that the whole situation
is really messed up. You know, obviously, like I feel
bad for Charlie Kirk, his familyand all that shit.

(06:44):
Like, it's terrible, but that doesn't mean that we can't
question narratives. And, you know, we were talking
like Jeremy said, we were talking off camera.
You know, there's there's a little bit of risk, if you will,
just even bringing that kind of stuff up, especially when this
event is so fresh and it's such a big topic in the world right
now. You know, I've taken a lot of

(07:04):
Flack for questioning things like the Las Vegas shootings,
questioning 911, you know, questioning whatever you get
Flack for it from certain people.
It's not to take away from the fact that the event happened.
You know, this isn't one of those like I don't even think it
happened type conspiracies. It's more like there's more,
more. There's other things behind all

(07:26):
this too, it seems like. So I just want to put that out
there. So I, I think that's a good
place to start. That's actually a really good
place to start. I want to start with the message
that I got yesterday. I got a message on X somebody
messaged me and I just don't, I don't understand some people,

(07:54):
but they messaged me not going to put their, their username out
there or tag or whatever. But they, they messaged me and
said, hey, why are you cherry picking?
What is considered breaking newsto you?
And I was like, what are you talking about?
And they're like, well, you did this breaking news episode on

(08:14):
the UAP congressional hearing when that happened, but Charlie
Kirk gets assassinated and you're not talking about it the
day it happens. But yeah, you're talking about
the congressional hearing the day it happens.
And I'm like, I don't think there's anything for me to
really dissect right now, man. I'm still waiting for all the

(08:35):
information to come out. What are you talking about?
I said, why does that mean I'm cherry picking?
And he's like, well, do you think UFOs are, are more
important than this man's life? And I was like, are you trying
to like, are you trying to say that I'm putting Charlie Kirk's

(08:56):
life below UFOs? Is that what you're trying to
say, man? Like, no, dude, I'm trying to
watch from the sidelines and be respectful.
Like this is a completely different topic.
This is this is I'm not jumping on this and and shooting from
the hip without having more information.
And he's like, man, whatever, unfollow.

(09:16):
And then he fucking blocked me. It's like, whatever dude, I
don't, I don't understand. Yeah, look, dude, I mean,
listen, fuck that guy. Because every podcast, every
news station, every anything, right, cherry picks the news.

(09:40):
It's impossible for two guys to cover every piece of news that
comes out every single day. So every time we do any podcast
on any topic, we had to cherry pick the topic in order to come
up with something to talk about,right?
Like how many things are in the news today?
10 million? We don't have time for that.

(10:02):
We have to pick which ones we talk about in any particular
day, right #1 #2 we got lives and shit, bro.
Like we can't just drop it. We don't make money on this,
right? It's not like we're sitting back
with 10s of $1,000,000. Like, you know, the Daily Wire
or Turning Point USA or any of the, you know, Tim Cast or any

(10:22):
of these big channels that have millions of dollars.
And this is what they do for a living.
And they, you know, we don't have a team behind us that's
doing all this research and pulling.
You know, we're not Infowars, bro.
Like we're just a couple of dudes.
So yeah, you know. You know, and I, I think like
the, the big fall back is a lot of people don't understand the
concept of infinite rabbit hole,right?

(10:42):
Infinite Rabbit Hole is it's based around the two of us or
three of us, four of us, you know, depending on how many Co
hosts that we have at the time, all having our individual
interests, likes and expertise. And bringing that to the table.

(11:07):
If you look back here, I have hundreds of books.
Not a single one of them is based solely on conspiracies,
government conspiracies, government cover ups.
I don't have a single one of them on JFK, right?
I don't research that stuff. It's not in my interest realm,

(11:30):
right? It's not like when I started
Infinite Rabbit Hole with Jake. We weren't ever going to cover
that kind of stuff. Jeff came along.
That's Jeff's realm, right? Jeff has an entire other
podcast. He's not going to put the time

(11:50):
and effort that he even puts into that show right into a show
that he's doing just because he loves me.
Look at the love in his face. Look at that.
That is admirement. That man loves me and he's here
because he loves me. Do you see that?

(12:12):
I see that. Go ahead, say something stupid.
Look at that face. Look at him.
But the reason why I, I, I, I chose to do the UAP
congressional hearing is becauseI fucking love UFOs, man.

(12:37):
I mean, I love them and I, I have a ton of research and, and
interest and love for the topic of UFOs and all the, the physics
and mechanics that go behind it,the, the military background
just right up my wheelhouse, man.

(12:57):
That's why I did it, because I love it, OK?
And there really hasn't been a lot of that lately where I can
just talk about it and be the expert.
We haven't talked about cryptidsin a while.
That's my wheelhouse. So I've been out.
I've been a fish out of water for a long time on the show
because we've been diving into conspiracy because the news has

(13:20):
just been nothing but conspiracylately.
That's been the topic of conversation in the world right
now, because every single thing in the world, it seems like
that's been conspiracy in the past.
Fucking you know, since the JFK assassination has slowly been
coming true, has been being revealed That what, what what

(13:44):
we're just talking about. I I can't remember who said it,
but we we referenced it a few times already on the show.
What's the difference between conspiracy and history?
Time, right. Let's let's some time time go
by. Yep.
That's it. And we're we're watching that
play out over and over and over again now.

(14:08):
So that guy, I don't, I don't even know why I'm giving it
time. But back to what you were
saying, the conspiracy of the death itself.

(14:28):
OK, I think that's a good place to start because I think that's
going to be the easiest one to kind of just get knocked out of
the way. There's so many layers to this
whole topic and there's so many different conspiracies out there
when it comes to the Charlie Kirk assassination.

(14:48):
First one is, was it all staged?Charlie Kirk still alive
somewhere? I'm I'm here to tell you that I
do not believe at all that that was faked.

(15:09):
Same. I think that we all watched a
very brutal video of a public execution of a of a man who is
not fully expecting that to happen.

(15:30):
I don't know, I don't think I'veever really dove into it on this
podcast. I did go onto a mental health
podcast one time and dove into, you know, the whole background
behind infinite rabbit hole and,and why how this whole thing got
started and what not. And honestly, this is probably

(15:51):
one of the better times to really talk about this.
But when I got medically retiredfrom the Navy, I got, you know,
forced retired with 100% disability rating.
I witnessed a young man on the flight line commit suicide by

(16:13):
jumping into the tail rotor of ahelicopter.
It was brutal. OK, so that's only one brutal
injury that I witnessed in my life.
I've witnessed a few brutal injuries in my life.

(16:34):
And I'll tell you one of the things and please, if nobody
wants to hear really graphic details, move along.
Don't listen to this, OK? It's you don't need to, you
really don't, but sometimes you just need to get graphic to

(16:57):
really explain to people like, hey, you just got to put down
some of the really dumb stuff sothat you can focus on the stuff
that really is questionable. All right, What this what
happened to Charlie Kirk? There's another conspiracy out

(17:21):
there of whether or not he was wearing a bulletproof vest.
Now, best evidence is that he hewas wearing a bulletproof vest.
And I've seen many different photo and video angles where it
looks like there was no straps on his back.
And I'm not familiar with all the bulletproof vests out there.
OK. But I did see the slow motion

(17:45):
video and it does look like it hit him right above the upper
left clavicle and ricocheted up into his neck.
From there, it looks like it hithis his left left cartrid and

(18:10):
jammed up into like the lower part of his brain or his
cerebral column. Now, I I've seen so many, so
many different people try to dissect this and they're
dissecting it wrong. OK.

(18:30):
A lot of people point to that little black spot and a shirt
and they're like, what is that? You know, And they're they're
also pointing to the guy over tothe to one side.
He's got his hand underneath hisarm.
Looks like he's pulling some sort of like cell phone pistol
shooting. Charlie, listen, man, the entry
wound was straightforward, OK? There was no entry wound to the

(18:53):
side, OK? There was no exit wound coming
out the other other end. Literally Ballistics proves that
the angle which that guy was standing, the shot could not
have come from that angle. OK, Wipe that out of your mind.

(19:16):
The guy in the the shirt that had his arms crossed did not
shoot Charlie Garden. That would also be just stupid
by the way too, because you wouldn't you know, if if that
was like, you know, a professional hit or something
that was being done, you would not place the hit man in camera
angle like in shot like that. You know, number one, Number

(19:39):
two, I've seen a lot of videos where guys are pointing to his
security in the back that quote UN quote, looked like he was
giving up hand signals, right? He was crossing his arm and like
giving a signal. Again, you wouldn't have that
guy standing right there clearlyon camera.
They all know that they're on camera, you know, throwing up
signals or anything like that. That's just, it's too, it's way

(20:00):
too sloppy for any group of individuals who have that type
of training. They would never, ever put
themselves in that position to do that.
Not, and it's, it's not even that man.
Like I, I'm happy you brought upthe hand signals thing too,
because I heard that and people were calling that shit out and I
was like, dude, you guys have obviously never tried to

(20:20):
communicate in loud places with a, with a, with a team of
people. OK, if you're in a team, a
security team, right, and you'retrying to communicate across
distances, right? And you're only the only way
that you can communicate is visually.
Yes. We've all seen the the Hollywood

(20:41):
version of people with mics on their lapels and they're
speaking into them and they're talking to each other like CM
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I've got them.
You know that's not how it works.
OK, These people are fucking loud.
All right? You heard that crowd roaring.
Let's say that that there was 6 people out there all in civilian

(21:02):
gear. All right, yes, he definitely
had security people out there. I wouldn't be surprised if that
was one of them. Was he giving hand signals?
Yeah, he probably was. He was probably giving hand
signals to another security guy,probably saying, hey, man, all
clear from here, we're all good,was he?

(21:26):
No. Right.
But he also probably wasn't looking on top of that roof.
I mean, it's common, very commonto use hand signals to talk.
I mean, when, when, when we're when we're, you know, in naval
aviation or in aviation in general.

(21:49):
We have a position called the plane captain, right, where the
person stands out in front of the plane.
And instead of talking to them through the radio, we give them
hand signals. OK, we it's literally a
qualification to give hand signals because we can't hear
each other even over the radio. Yeah, but dude was definitely

(22:12):
not giving hand signals to to pull the trigger, right?
Like absurd. It's.
And not not just that man, but another guy put together a whole
nice video, right, of dozens of Charlie Kirk debates where
there's all their security guards doing same thing.

(22:35):
Yeah, even the same security. Guard yeah, 100%.
So I've. Seen a lot of really bad like,
OK, I appreciate on on one level, I appreciate questioning
the narrative. Of course, that's my shtick
right. So when I see posts and people
are questioning, you know what, what we're being fed like, OK,

(22:56):
good on you for for asking questions.
Fair. But I've seen some really bad
sloppy question asking, right? And this is this happens every
time there's anything, right? Like I've seen guys who go on
and do like, I don't know, but like, take your pick of the
thing, right? They'll debate some conspiracy
and they just do a terrible job at like outlining or asking

(23:18):
questions about the thing and they make the rest of us look
retarded. Literally, right.
So like, you know, it, that stuff bothers me because it's
like you, you haven't even done any type of real thinking on
this at all, right. What I find interesting though,
is a lot of the the numbers and such that are involved with this

(23:42):
assassination, which we can get into later.
I don't want to like, I didn't mean to cut you off, but like
just yeah, the hands thing is just it's it's stupid.
You guys are not thinking hard enough.
I wanted, you know, I want to go.
I I'll wrap up the the actual death of Charlie Kirk first, OK?

(24:05):
I just want to reiterate, OK? I'm not bringing this up because
I'm insensitive or anything likethat.
Trust me, it's the complete opposite.
I feel terrible for him. I feel terrible for his wife,
his kids. You know, this is something that
I I'm not Uber conservative, OK?I'm not extremely liberal.

(24:34):
I've always been middle of the road kind of person and I've
actually just been a person thatjust doesn't like politics in
general, OK? I just stayed away apart from
politics in my life. I just don't like it and it's
because of how ugly people get because of it.

(25:03):
So I I've even tried to stay away from it as much as I can
here on the podcast. You know, I just built infinite
rabbit hole around the whole concept of not bringing politics
into this. But you know, a lot of people
are politicizing this particulartopic on oh, well, if you feel

(25:26):
bad for Charlie Kirk, then you're obviously a conservative
or you're a Christian. Well, to be honest with you, I
don't consider myself Christian,OK.
I've never sat down and read theentire Bible, read bits and
pieces of it. But for research, and I mean, I

(25:50):
served in the military and I would say half my family is
conservative and half my family is liberal.
I, I take each and every topic individually and I don't brush
every, every topic with a, with a blue or red brush.
I don't know how else they answer that.
So But on this particular topic,somebody who's opening the floor

(26:17):
up to peaceful debate should notbe shot, that's what.
Yeah, it's messed up, bro. It's a messed up situation,
dude. Honestly, the whole thing's
messed up. But you know, like there's a,
there's a certain level of, I don't know, maybe it's because

(26:41):
I've been ridiculed and like people have come at me for
questioning the narrative on a lot of things before, right?
Like even to this day, if I bring up 911 conspiracies on in
any level, like there's people Iknow that'll like shit on me,
they'd be like, oh, bro, like I was telling you before, oh, my
uncle was there. Like my uncle died.
And it's like, look, man, I'm not, I'm not saying that, you
know, the event didn't happen, right?

(27:01):
Or like people didn't die or like, it's not sad, messed up of
a situation, right? But my whole angle is always
like, there's usually some otherlike underlying thing that's
happening too. It's not just as black and white
as like some crazy liberal shot Charlie Kirk, right?
Like there's something else going on here.
And like, the biggest red flag for me is like, how big and how

(27:25):
blasted it is on everybody's feeds, right?
Everybody's algorithm has completely shifted because of
this event. Crystal's, for example, her
TikTok algorithm has zero political stuff on it at all.
It's just cat videos, you know? And like, and her algorithm is

(27:47):
completely just swamped with this Charlie Kirk thing, right?
So that to me is a signal like, OK, like they're using this
never let a good crisis go to waste is the is the phrase,
right? So, you know, when something
like this happens, even if it was just a crazy liberal
shooting Charlie Kirk, the lizard people, right?

(28:09):
And I I say that like hyperbolically.
I don't think that they're actually lizards.
You guys know this, but that's just my fun term for these deep
state fucking psychopaths, right?
The lizard people, they will notlet this go to waste.
They will use this event for a whole number of things, whether
it's, you know, surveillance or,you know, cracking down on

(28:32):
privacy or, or some sort of lawsor whatever the case is.
I don't know yet. We'll have to see what really
comes out of this. But it's going to get used.
It's going to be weaponized against us, is basically what
I'm saying on some level. I'll, I'll bring something up.
What? It's to cover something else up,

(28:59):
like Skeeter says, yeah, you know, like, and and The thing
is, it might not just be one thing, It could be a whole bunch
of stuff, right. Like I heard and I don't know if
this is true, but I heard that during the the day that this
happened to Charlie Kirk that they were voting in the Senate

(29:20):
about releasing the Epstein files and that all of the GOP,
all of the right, you know, the Republican senators voted
against it, even though half of them are out in public saying
that needs to be released, right.
So that could be one of the things that they were covering
up, right? Has have you guys heard this?

(29:41):
Probably not right. So point proven.
OK, Another thing NASA came out the other day and said that they
found life on Mars. Did you guys hear that?
Probably not right? Well, Jeremy probably did
because he's he's a nerd and he likes this kind of stuff.
But like the general public, like again, everybody's

(30:02):
algorithms is just constantly even today I'm I'm scrolling
through just trying to watch mindless videos and like it's
Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk. And it's like, OK, man, like I,
I get it, bro. Like it's sad, it's messed up,
but like, how many times, you know, do we need to watch this?
And then the the third thing about that too is they put this

(30:22):
traumatic event in front of everybody.
Everybody saw it happen, OK? Even if you didn't want to see
it happen, you saw it happen, OK, The blood, the the whole
thing, OK, That is traumatizing on some sub subconscious level
to every single one of us. And that right there is a

(30:43):
powerful tool for these lizard people where they can traumatize
all of us with an event, right? Like 911 is a good example.
OK, Las Vegas shooting was an example, right?
When they can put something in front of every single person,
that's that traumatizing of an event that is effective for them

(31:04):
on a subconscious level. So there's a lot of like layers
to how this could be used in weaponized against us as as just
regular people, right? That that doesn't take away from
the fact that it's sad and it's messed up and that that this
actually happened to Charlie Kirk, right?
Of course, But there's just moreto it.
It's deeper than just that base layer.

(31:26):
Yeah, we're going to get into some of that really sketchy
shit. I I just had to bring something
up here to make sure I have it up for when I need it because I
came across something that just doesn't sit right with me about
this whole thing and I just wanted to make sure I have it
for when we get there. While you look for that and have

(31:49):
it ready. Oh, OK.
Well, go ahead. Go ahead then.
No. No, no, we're not there yet.
I wanted to make sure that we, we get through the I, I I want
to make sure I'm clear that Charlie Kirk died.
Right. OK.
And then do you have anything you wanted to say real quick?

(32:11):
I mean, like, I was just going to start going into some of the
like the the numbers aspects in the Freemason symbolism.
Yeah. Let me, let me let me knock this
out real quick. All right, go for it.
So another thing, you know, people were talking about were a
potential blood splattering system taped to Charlie or

(32:33):
whatever to, to account for all the blood spray coming out of
his neck. Listen, man, OK.
Oh, and then another one was whydid he hold on to the
microphone? Another one was the the ring
switching from his his his one finger to his pinky.

(32:55):
I mean, we came out and and people found multiple photos of
him or videos of him playing with, with this ring that he
has. It's a gold ring and it opens.
It's got a latch on it and it's a fidget thing, OK, So when he's
up there and he's debating or he's on stage or whatnot, he
fidgets, OK, And it's a ring that that opens up.

(33:18):
You can switch his fingers. All right, So that's the answer
to that. All right, so it's not AI.
You didn't watch an AI video. Somebody getting shot.
All right, that's number one. Number two, the reason why he
didn't let go of the the microphone and the reason why

(33:38):
there was so much blood. Let's go over that real quick.
OK, so this might get a little graphic, but just want to make
sure people understand the anatomy of what actually
happened, OK? I have not seen the up autopsy

(34:03):
report. As far as I know, it's still
locked away and it has not been made public yet.
But just from watching that video, I'm on the phone with my
wife watched it and I'm like I said, Katie, he's dead.
There's no way he's walking awayfrom that.
And she's like, well, they're saying that that he's at the

(34:26):
hospital and that he's stable. And I'm like, no, there's no
way. I said that that hit, that hit
his carotid. I said he's done, done, done.
There's no way. And then not just that, but he
also took, he took the decorticate posture.

(34:50):
So if anybody doesn't know what the decorticate posture is, that
is if you ever seen anybody havea seizure when they tense up,
like, you know, they, they bringtheir, their arms and to their
chest and they clench their fists and they, they kind of
wrap their wrists downwards and then they, they stiffen their

(35:13):
legs out. That's called the decorticate
posture. So when he got hit in the chest
and it ricocheted up into his carotid, his left carotid.
So on each side of your neck youhave a left and a right carotid
artery and the the carotid arteries are your your brain's

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main blood supply that come directly from your heart.
Now if anybody knows the structure and the purpose of an
artery versus a vein, arteries supply oxygen rich blood away
from the heart. The walls of the of your your

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arteries are much thicker to support higher pressure of the
fluid. Where veins supply oxygen
degraded blood or deoxygenated blood, if you will, to the heart
to be resupplied through the lungs and they have thin walls.

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So lifehard. A lot of people say, oh man, I
went straight through his jugular.
Literally can't happen. OK, the jugular is a vein.
That's a very common misconception in Hollywood
movies where people you know, they like to say jugular vein,
you know, got sliced in the jugular.
I know ICP, Insane Cloud Posse used to put that in a lot of

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their their songs jugular because it it was catchy and
fun, but the the reality of it is, is that veins collapse on
themselves. They're really thin walled and
they'll actually stop. Bleeding.
Much easier than than arteries. In fact, arteries will stay

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solid. Think of them as like a pool
noodle. OK, the only way to stop an
artery from bleeding out is for the pressure, your blood
pressure to drop so low or to actually pinch it or to block it
somehow. So when that bullet, which I

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believe that he was wearing a bulletproof vest again, I don't
know, but from the slow motion video, it looked like he got hit
right on top of the left pectoral ricocheted up and right
when he got hit you could see his whole body jerk backwards.

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And a. Moment later the microphone and.
Everything came up. Close and he started to take the
decorticate posture. So like I said, the decorticate
posture is with the bent arms coming inward towards the chest
and clenched fist with extended stiff legs.

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This comes. From severe.
Damage to the brain. Mostly the case will be
involving the most densest areasof neurons of the brain.
This will be the area of the brain on top of the spine where

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the. Brain receives the signals.
From the cerebral cortex in the cerebellum known as the red
nucleus. This is literally the the area
of the brain, it's dead center. This sits right on top of the
spine. This is where all the
neurotransmitters come from. The the signals from your
muscles up through the spine into your brain gets translated

(39:08):
into information from your brainand also all the stuff that
comes from your brain down into your your spine and gets spread
out through your body and tells your body what to do.
OK, this is. So sensitive that.
A bullet hitting that will instantly send your body into

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the decoricate posture. OK, you'll clench up.
And that's what he did. OK, he bled out very fast.
He got hit in the either very top of the spine, lower part of
his brain, and because he took the decorticate posture, I

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believe he got hit in the red nucleus, which means that he was
most likely completely unconscious, unknowing.
Of anything. And if there's any good news
from this that he most likely had no idea that happened to
him. So all the signs were there.

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OK, This isn't this wasn't fakes, guys.
All right? So please be careful of the
information that you're taking in.
Everything was there. I can almost guarantee you that
when the autopsy comes out, whatI just told you is going to be
pretty close. To or what?

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You're going to hear and if not question it because what we saw
is what I'm painting and I challenge anybody to go out and
do their own research. Seriously, do.
It's basic anatomy. All right, Jeff, you want to go

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ahead and take us in the numbers, bud?
Yeah, sure. So let's just.
Start with the number. 33 a lot of you listen to this you
probably already know when you see that or hear the number 33
it automatically like Bing, right?
For me it does. 33 is a super important number in Scottish

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Rite Freemasonry. OK, I I used grok here just to
get like a clear, you know, listof reasons why 33 is important.
It doesn't list all of them, butjust what it's telling me.
Symbolically, 33 carries deep esoteric meanings in Masonic
philosophy. It's linked to the human anatomy

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representing the 33 vertebrae ofthe spine topped by the head,
symbolizing enlightenment or theascent of consciousness.
There's also 33° in Freemasonry 3330 third degree Freemasonry is
like the highest you can go. There might be like other secret
levels above the 33rd, but the 33rd is the highest multiples of

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three, right? So 3 invokes the Holy Trinity
and Christian context, emphasizing spiritual harmony
and the union of divine principles.
Basically they used 33 as a ritual number, if you will.
OK, and it signifies balance between the material and
spiritual realms, drawing from numerological traditions in

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various cultures and esoteric systems.
There's there's it's a whole rabbit hole in itself why 33 is
an important number. But let's just just assume that
I'm not lying to you for the next few minutes here.
Trust me, 33 is an important number for these people.
OK, so that being said, now I didn't do all this digging

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personally, I'm just kind of going off of what other people
have dug up. I'm I'm looking through exit
some posts and stuff. I have looked at a few of these
in my own time just to kind of see like 'cause you know, it's
wild when you hear this. So I go look it up and I'm like,
oh shit, that's right. So I haven't like confirmed all
of these things, so take these with a grain of salt, but feel

(43:18):
free to take these and do your own digging on it or whatever.
But I do find it super interesting.
First, the one that actually hitme in real time without looking
it up online. I was driving the car and I was
listening to the FBI press conference after they caught the
dude who shot Charlie Kirk, right?
I was like listening to it live when it was happening.
And Cash Patel specifically saidthat they caught this.

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They caught the shooter 33 hoursafter the shooting, Not 32, not
34, you know, not a day and a half later.
No, no, no. He specifically said 33 hours is
what it took to catch the guy. OK.
And then he fixed himself, and then he.
And then he corrects himself. But when he said that, my ears
perked up. I was like 33 hours.

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That's an odd thing to specify, right?
So fair enough. That's when I started coming to
look online to see like, what else was tied in here.
If you watch any of the videos, which all of us have seen it,
you'll notice that Charlie Kirk had a whole bunch of Trump hats
on the table, right? He had the 47 hats.
Excuse me, I'm about to sneeze. He is licking them.

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Oh, it's cute. Look at that cute little sneeze.
It's horrible. Sorry I told you my allergies
are. Fucking me up.
Today. Bless you bud.
Anyways, so he had the. Trump hats the 40.
Seven hats on the table. That's not odd.
That's something he always did, but in the primary.
Angle the one. That is the most viewed angle of

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this assassination, the one thatwas televised on like CNNMSNBC,
Fox, all this these big mainstream platforms, this one
particular angle. There's three rows of these hats
lined up right in front of Charlie on the table. 40 sevens
the number. 47. Breaks down in.

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Numerology to. The number eleven 4 + 7 is 11.
OK, there was three of them there.
What's 11 * 333? OK, so that was obviously pretty
odd. Let me Scroll down here on here.
So hold on, I had a few more. Sorry.

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It's a mess of stuff. So you could take Charlie Kirk's
name. Charlie Kirk CK C is the 3rd
letter of the alphabet. K is the 11th letter in the
alphabet. Again, 3 * 1133.

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OK, let's see. I got more here.
You have the square and. Compass OK, this this is an
interesting one. I'm going to share this because
without looking at it, it's kindof hard to understand what I'm
saying, so I'll pull it up on screen here.

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OK, you guys see this. So this this person, Danny Dior.
Am I reading too much into this right?
He just said what I said. Charlie Kirk, CK31133, right?
September 10th, right, 9/10, which is 90°, right?

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If you look at the Free Masonic symbol, it's the 90° square,
right? And then he talks about the
three baseball caps, which equalup to 33, right?
And 47 also is the angle of the compass in this Free Masonic
symbol as well, which I found interesting.

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OK, I'll just leave you guys sharing here for a second.
There's a few more down here. September 11th is exactly 33
days before Charlie Kirk's birthday.
I don't know if. That's true.
Or not, I don't know. What his birthday is, I never
looked that up, but I'm sure somebody could figure that out

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and find out, right? His show launched.
July 7th, 20. 19322 weeks and three days later or six years,
6066 days. So basically what they're saying
here is the number 322. This is a number for skull and
crossbones. This is the secret society that

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like George Bush and a lot of these people were involved in, I
believe at Yale, right? So 3322 is another really
important number besides 33. And then also 666 is in that in
that as well. OK, so you have like these weird
numbers when Charlie Kirk's wifedoes, you know you there's a
video of him or of her at the open casket and she has this

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giant ring on her hand. We'll.
Get to the button in a second. This one have the there.
You go, she has this. Giant G ring on her hand.
Here's your. G in your free Masonic.
Symbolism. OK, now I'm going to go back to
the button. Charlie Kirk had one his lower

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button on done in the open casket.
Now somebody who's who does funeral work, they might have a
a better reason for this. Right?
But there is a free Masonic symbol.
If you will. Or handshake, you know, there's
a, a code hand signal like we were talking about earlier.
I think there's a picture of it up here somewhere in, in

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Freemasonry, these Freemasons, they would open that same button
and they would place their hand inside their, their jacket coat,
right covering their that hand. That's a hand signal that the
here we go. Here's the the picture of it, I
believe. No, that's not it.

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Anyways, that's a thing. You can look that up the.
Button open Freemason. Freemason hand signal.
You'll see it. It's there.
Here's the three hats that I wastalking about, 474747 OK,
there's another piece that I found interesting.
By the way, if you're not watching this and you're just
listening, you should probably pull up the video because we're

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actually seeing some of this. Where was it?
Somebody had pulled up. They put Tyler Robinson, who is
apparently the shooter. They put him in a gematria
calculator and his name comes upas the number 47 in the gematria
calendar, right? So doesn't I?

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I heard that. I.
Heard that? The Masons.
Have some sort of lore too, and Tyler is the name of some sort
of guardian in their lore. It could be, possibly I'm not.
I'm not super sure to be honest with you.
Me neither. Don't take that one to heart.
Everybody that that's. Just hearsay.

(50:15):
Look it up, you know, I don't know, but it is.
Interesting that his name, TylerRobinson, comes up as the number
47 in the Gematria calendar, right?
There's another one where like the three biggest assassinations
in American history, all, all ofthe names are with KS.
So it's three KS. Now we're talking about the KKK.
But remember, K is the 11th letter in the alphabet, right?

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3 * 11 is 33, right? And so there's a long list of
these. There's more of them.
I just don't want to sit here and ramble off about all of
them, but you get the point. There's like 50 examples
OF3332247, all within this wholeevent.
So like, to me, that tells me that this is a signal of some

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kind, right? Like this is a ritual or
whatever the case might be, I don't know.
But again, don't let a good crisis go to waste.
So there's definitely something,something spooky going on.
Yeah. All right, so.
I just cracked the the Freemason.
Tie to the name. Tyler.
So in Freemasonry, the. Name Tyler refers to a specific

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official role within a Masonic Lodge rather than a personal
name with esoteric or symbolic significance.
The Tyler is the outer guard or doorkeeper of the lodge, tasked
with ensuring the security and secrecy of meetings by
preventing unauthorized individuals such as non Masons

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or Cowen's or eavesdroppers. From.
Entering this position is one ofthe junior officers in the lodge
hierarchy, but it's crucial for maintaining the fraternities
traditions of discretion and moral integrity.
There you go. That's kind of spooky.

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Little bit. Here's another 1C.
Kirk's full name is Charles James Kirk.
So if you put Charles the the etymology, if you will, right,
Charles from the Germanic is Karl, which means freeman,
right? And Kirk means in the Greek
derives from Greek and it's the Lord's house.

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So if you combine those two, Church of the Freeman, right
Freemasonry. So.
That's another like, weird coincidence, I guess, if you
will, to the whole thing. I don't know man.
There's just a. Lot there's a lot of these like
little weird things, man, you know, and then, you know, Alex

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Jones actually pulled this up the other day too.
On Amazon, there was a book thatwas published the day before.
So on September 9th, right on September 9th, there was a book
published and it was on Amazon. It was called the Shooting of
Charlie Kirk. Right now it's been removed, so
I don't know what that's about, but it's almost like they told
you before, which is something that they always like to do as

(53:13):
well. I almost bought it.
I've I've seen that on X some ofyou was posting that I went to
Amazon to see if it was real. Sure enough, there it was.
And I was like, do I fucking buythis?
And my fear was like, it was just going to be some like AI
bullshit, like someone rush it out there.
And I was like, Nah, you know, some, some fucking sick person

(53:36):
probably just said, all right, Brock, write me up a 300 page
fucking bullshit book on this event that happened today.
Throw it out there and I didn't catch on that this book was
posted the day before. And then I also found out.
That it takes 72 hours for a book to get published on Kindle

(53:59):
Direct Publishing. So in order for a book to get
published on Amazon through Kindle Direct Publishing, they
need 72 hours for approval. So I, I actually researched the,
the process, right, because it'ssomething that I'm meant to do
for my own book at one point. So I said, fuck it, let me go

(54:21):
ahead and look into it. So I went through the whole
process, set up an account through Kindle Direct publishing
and everything over the last fewdays.
And sure enough, they, they outlined the entire thing for
you. 72 hours. We got to get it all uploaded,
get your formatting correct. They say that there could be
multiple attempts. I I watched a couple videos on

(54:41):
YouTube where they can they can I?
Love these random chatters. They're hilarious.
They can send. It back to you.
And say hey this formatting isn't correct, fix this and that
could take 72 hours for them to do it.

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That can happen multiple times. So.
That definitely some fishy. Shit there.
I don't know how that got there.It's weird.
Yeah. I'm not sure.
To be honest with you, I don't know if I was starting to
mention this. The three major assassinations
in American history, Kennedy, King, and Kirk, right?

(55:30):
All three of those are elevens. 11 * 3 is 33, right?
And then you can break down the names of those two, right?
We already talked about Charlie.He's the free man, right?
JFK was in in the. Gematria situation is.
God is gracious, MLK is warrior king of the people, and Charlie

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Kirk is the free man of the church.
Right? All three executed.
It's. I don't know, it's just crazy to
me. Man, like there's no way that
all of these things line up unless we do live in some kind
of simulation and that's just part of the coding.
I don't know, I'd be more likelyto incline like inclined to
believe that it's definitely some sort of like ritual that

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they're doing. Well, all right, so let's let's
get into let's get into something that I do find fishy,
right, Because the number thing that's you.
I don't know much about that shit.

(56:39):
And honestly, honestly, I didn'tknow much about the the shit
that I do find fishy until just a little while.
Ago like I'm. Talking within the last 48 hours
when I started really putting all these pieces together.
Oh, and the shooter drove. Three hours and 30 minutes to
get there. 33 Two. 150 miles. Yeah. 30 minutes.

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Thirty minutes. Thirty.
Three, yeah. There's a long list of there.
It keeps going. Again, that that's that's.
Your your cake there man, I'll look.
Into the number thing. At some point, I don't know much
about that, but. All right, there is a lot more.

(57:29):
That's out there. That I think people.
Need to calm down at but we're already over an hour in and we
haven't really gotten into the stuff that I really do find
fishy. So let's get into that now.
And if we come across some otherstuff in conversation, I'll just
knock it out real quick. What I do want to talk about is

(57:50):
the very first thing that I think a lot of people aren't
revisiting, and I think there's a reason why is because it is.
Extremely. Disturbing is.
George Zinn. Now.
We are seeing. Some posts on this guy pop up on

(58:10):
X every once in a while, but mainstream media staying
completely away from him. Now.
If anybody is not familiar with the name George Zinn, this is
the guy who they they originallyarrested.
That, they thought, was the. Original killer.

(58:32):
This is an older gentleman. If you guys, if anybody was
watching the news coverage of the assassination as it was
happening within the first couple hours or hour, there was
an older gentleman who was in handcuffs being escorted off the
campus. He apparently had it admitted.

(58:58):
To the shooting and when. He was being walked.
Off there were multiple videos being released by multiple
social media accounts where he was asking people to shoot him.
He's saying shoot me. Shoot me begging people to shoot

(59:21):
him as if he was the actual assassin and was expecting to
die that day. Comes to find out.
Within the next hour or so, he'sreleased.
He's not the assassin. Then there's a second person who

(59:46):
was captured. The second person can't find
any. Information on that person.
At all. All we can find out is that this
person was supposedly in the crowd and that there was
something strange about this person that that that they were
bringing attention to themselves.

(01:00:06):
I've heard whispers of pellet guns or BB guns or ABB gun being
used that was leading to his arrest but then that person was
also let go. So.
Then the. Theory comes out.

(01:00:27):
That these two people are patties or they're they're
trying to distract while the true shooter is getting away,
meaning that they're part of a team.

(01:00:48):
At first glance I looked at thisand I was like fuck is going on
here OK the. Authorities need to get their
shit together and just. Find who The Who the real person
was. I was kind of get pissed right?
But start thinking. About this more.
Why? Were these people?

(01:01:09):
Acting. In such a way.
To where authorities were arresting them.
And then there was. Multiple videos coming out.
Especially at George Zinn. Where he was asking.
People to shoot him while he wasin police custody.

(01:01:34):
Doing a little research on George Zen.
Because I've seen some posts popup about him, there was a lot of
connections with him to 911. So I did some research on him.
Come to find out, he's not as connected to 911 as a lot of

(01:01:55):
people are saying that he is. His connection doesn't go back
that far. Still a very questionable guy.
Very, very questionable guy. But.
There's people that are claimingthat he.
Was in New York during 9/11 thathe was living out there or or

(01:02:19):
what not. Then I even saw some weird claim
that he. Was the person who.
Found the perfectly preserved passport of one of the
terrorists who hijacked one of the planes that rammed him into
one of the twin towers. OK, So all the things that I
could find again. OK, this is post Charlie Kirk

(01:02:42):
assassination. So if anything was changed on
the Internet, this is the stuff that I was able to find that.
Yeah, that he. Was in a.
Like a not a documentary, but like an interview about his
experiences during 9/11, right? This is like years ago.
So this it's called. It's called an interactive
commemorative museum exhibit and.

(01:03:06):
The name of it is called. Weber remembers the 9/11
project, and it came out on September 9th, 2021.
And he was. In that, yes.
You see the? Boston bombing thing.
Yes, so. In 2013, he received a
misdemeanor charge for bomb threats via e-mail to the Salt

(01:03:31):
Lake City Marathon. Not Boston Bombing.
Salt Lake City. There was misconceptions about
the Boston Bombing, but he wasn't.
It was Salt Lake City, not Boston.
I know, I know. That's why.

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That's why I put the disclaimer that all the information that I
found was post Charlie Kirk assassination.
Because obviously I'm not not looking at a random dude named
George Zinn prior to the CharlieKirk assassination, right?
If I had a time machine and I can go back two years and
research this George Zinn character, would I be surprised?

(01:04:16):
If I found different. Information and what I found the
last two days, I wouldn't be surprised it's still.
Too close. It's still too.
It's still too much like it is. It gives me Crisis Actor vibes.
It does, right? It really does.
But. Man, I'm telling you, this goes

(01:04:37):
deeper. This goes deeper.
Now, that's pretty much as far as the whole George Zinn thing
goes, right? But that's.
Just kind of like the gateway. Drug to this whole you missed
one thing and I'm going to say. It here.
What's up? He's Jewish.
He's not. He's not.
He's not. You sure?

(01:04:58):
Nope, it's positive. Yeah, OK.
Well from what I can find. He's not.
That was a misconception to say he is not Jewish.
No, he's. Also libertarian.
I don't know if that means. Anything to this whole thing but
71? Year old political.

(01:05:19):
Activist. Then he lives in Utah.
That's. Pretty much, yeah.
So in in that little documentarything, the interactive
commemorative museum piece that comes.
Out it's an. Annual Thing by the Webber

(01:05:39):
Remembers Foundation by Major Brent Taylor Foundation.
He gave his testimony of his memory from that day and how he
had early thoughts on the attribution of Islamic
terrorists performing the attacks.
So that's where the whole idea of him being connected to or

(01:06:04):
have our reporting Islamic involvement on the 9/11 attacks
came from. Again, I'm just.
Mocking or. Mimicking exactly what comes off
of Google and shit man. Because that's all I can.

(01:06:28):
Find I don't. Have deep research material for
a random guy named George Zinn. I just don't so this is the best
that I have. If anybody else has other
information. From reputable sources, my best

(01:06:49):
friend. Said so.
Isn't a reputable source so don't come to me with that
please. I hate when people do that shit.
Zinn is a. Surname of primarily German and
Ashkenazi Jewish origin, I mean.That's.
Fine, so this is not. By the way, this is not.

(01:07:09):
Me. Shitting on like Jewish people.
All right? I think we're all smart enough
here to know that there's differences between, you know,
the, the how do you say? The three types of of.
Jewish, if you will, right? You have like the Israeli state,
you have the, you know, religious, religious Jews and
you have like the ethnic Jews. So it's like there's multiple

(01:07:31):
layers to that as well. That's a whole other thing.
I really want to get into it, but yeah, I can get pretty
fucking. Rough.
Yeah, I can get it deep anyways.The next shady.
Character I want to talk about is is David Guy.
David is the guy that right after.

(01:07:54):
Right after. Charlie was shot, stood up,
turned towards where the shooterwas and cheered or looked like
he was cheering. Well, on September 12th, he
posted a video claiming that it wasn't him cheering instead.
He was chanting. USA to project strength.

(01:08:18):
You saw this guy? No, he's known on X as the
dancing. Jew is he really?
Yeah. Well, so here's the thing, man
I. Don't think I buy that shit at
all. I really don't.

(01:08:41):
You just saw somebody get. Fucking assassinated and this is
in a brutal fashion. OK, we all saw the video your
first. Thought is to turn around.
And scream USA first. Of all OK.
Just a few things I noticed fromthat video.
Not a single other person was. Turned.

(01:09:06):
Towards the area of where the shooter was supposedly at, not
a. Single you can look at that.
Video man that one other person was turned towards that that
area and one person on X was able to fly a drone out there

(01:09:28):
and set it. Right where?
Where? This David guy was and put it
right where his head was facing so we can see where.
His line of sight. Was it was right at the fucking
rooftop. I I don't do.
The conspiracy thing. Too much.

(01:09:48):
I really don't. But when things just don't
fucking smell right. It's hard for me to let go.
And the two things that really didn't fucking sit right to me,
especially right there at the beginning of all of this, was
this George Zen guy. Then paired with the fact that

(01:10:15):
they they arrested. A second guy.
Who is? Apparently also.
Causing a big fuss of distraction and this David
character who was caught on filmcheering like, yeah dude, we did
it. That's what he fucking look

(01:10:36):
like. Not USAUSA.
Can I point something out about this day of a guy?
Yeah, and I didn't know this until right this.
Moment I just pulled. Up his profile on X.
OK, his little bio. I'm just going to read you his
bio. Navigating A recursive
probalistic framework from quantum to astrologic

(01:10:56):
information to sentience, chaos to order, paradox, duality,
Infinity. Awesome.
Order. Out of chaos, yeah.
OK. So yeah.
Really. Is that, is that really his

(01:11:18):
thing? That's his bio.
That's his bio. Really.
He's got the long hair and. Everything.
Yep, R to the power of X. On X.
Really. Yep.
Huh. Send me that link dude.
If you get a chance, I'd like tocheck that out.

(01:11:41):
That that's strange. Listen man, I'm not.
Don't don't go out there and fuck, I'll just.
Send it to you in the. Riverside chat sweet don't.
Don't go out and and fuck with this guy.
I'm not. No, no, I'm not.
I would never expect. Or want anybody to do anything

(01:12:02):
like that. I'm just pointing out things
that I think are a little bit odd and coincidental in this
whole thing. That's that's that's all I'm
doing too. Man, I, I had absolutely no
shape or form and condoning going out and fucking
confronting anybody on anything.OK, Like let's just have a

(01:12:22):
conversation about it between you and I or you myself as a
listener. If you guys want to have a
conversation with me, hit me up in the chat.
Whatever. Don't.
Don't go out there and confront.Nobody.
If you have a legitimate concern, bring it up to the
authorities. Have them take care of it.
I know you know a lot of people don't trust authorities right

(01:12:43):
now. I'm not going to dive into that
right now, but I am not. Condoing that shit.
In the least bit. So by all means, don't listen to
the shit that we're saying with that much wait, please do your

(01:13:04):
do your own fucking thinking, OK?
We're just figureheads talking about the shit on the podcast,
all right? We're burning time.
But from my point of view, the guy's fucking sketchy.
This whole situation is really fucking weird and I don't like
it. All right, so.
George's. In and this David character, I

(01:13:25):
don't like it, don't like him atall.
I don't think that either of them.
Have a good role in this and I. Think that the role is bigger
than than what they're portrayedas.
Brings. Into the question of.
How many other players were there that we don't know about?

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How the fuck did this kid get away?
So easily. I mean, there's so many other
questions, like about the gun. We can't get into that because
we're running out of time because.
We need to make room for the big.
Ones so. There starts.

(01:14:09):
The theories on why it happened,Why did this whole thing happen,
right. So we're going to stay away from
what the mainstream media is pushing, which is.
You know this kid got. Radicalized either in college or

(01:14:34):
or by his roommate slash lover, whatever I'm.
Going to stay away from all that.
OK. Because I'm going to be honest
with you, I think I really do think that there's some weirder
shit going on here than than what is being presented to us.

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And this is probably the first time in the history of my life
where I've. Seen a?
An event and I'm I, I feel like I'm seeing the event through
through Jeff's eyes like just got me right this is what always

(01:15:21):
happens man it's. You know, events happen all the
time, right? And what sometimes you don't see
through it on the first event, right?
Like 911 woke a lot of people up.
A lot of people saw that event and they saw all these weird
types of coincidences or connections from 911, right?
And I woke up millions of people, right?
Even to this day, people will watch like a good 9/11 like

(01:15:43):
Zeitgeist or Loose Change or something and it'll wake them
up. They'll see through the the veil
or whatever. This happens with every big
event. There's like a whole new
population of people who get woken up by an event.
This just happens to be your event, right?
Not saying that you don't question 911 or these other
things, but like, you know, the event itself, not somebody else

(01:16:06):
like talking to you about the event, right?
Does that make sense? Like in real time, like you're
seeing kind of through some of this weird shit and you're like,
wait a minute, dude. Like this doesn't really make a
whole lot of sense to me. And that's that's what happens,
man. It happened a lot of people with
Las Vegas, with Boston bombing, with, you know, the Pulse
nightclub thing with 9/11, with COVID, right?

(01:16:30):
Like every time when these events happens, more and more
people wake up and they start seeing through the bullshit,
right? Which is also why they're
ramping up the frequency of these events, I think, right.
There's something here, I don't even necessarily think that the
the occult, ritualistic aspects of these events are necessarily
like, they don't have to be negative for us, the regular

(01:16:53):
people. It's very possible that they're
using this type of thing to wakepeople up from this mind control
that we've been in for the last forever.
Right? Like, I don't know, it could go
both ways. Does that make sense?
Yeah. Yeah, it does.

(01:17:20):
It does. Zeitgeist was mine, by the way.
Remember, we got into last week.We were.
Talking about the snake versus the eagle thing, right, Like
having events like this happen where it's and then having like
the obvious numerological connections and all the other
things that we're talking about here today.
That could very well be like snake faction trying to, you

(01:17:45):
know, re whatever, right? Revitalize itself or something
right? Like make itself known in the
public? Psyche, right?
It could. Be trying to break out of the
matrix that the Eagle faction has placed all of us in over the
last few 100 years. It could be that, right?

(01:18:06):
Or it could be more Eagle faction sacrificial, you know,
traumatic. Interdimensional psychic vampire
shit. Going on, I don't know, could be
one of the other, I don't reallyknow.
All right. So.
This guy on X. And I wish I had saved the

(01:18:29):
thread because I'd love to give him all the credit that I could
because he did a hell of a job at putting this whole thing
together. And I love when people put this
amount of research and time and effort into it to actually go
back and watch all the videos ofCharlie Kirk and, and really put

(01:18:51):
together all the evidence and put it neatly into posts so that
people can follow what he's trying to explain.
Basically, the way it started was there was a guy who
presented a case to Charlie during one of his campus debates
that 911 was done by Israel, notnecessarily by the anybody in

(01:19:22):
the Middle East, not by a terrorist organization, not Al
Qaeda, not even the United States.
Maybe the United States did do it, but under the thumb of the
Israeli arm. And Charlie got noticeably upset
about that right now, you could tell when when things kind of

(01:19:48):
got him upset, right? He he kind of got a little
perked up about certain topics. And you could you could tell
when you kind of put the the pedal to the floor in these
debates. And that's what he did right.
But this guy, he. Kept coming with more and more.
Information and Charlie kind of sat back and was like, OK, OK.

(01:20:11):
And then the guy said something about, well, Charlie, how do you
how do you explain how they found a perfectly preserved
passport for? One of the.
Terrorist hijackers 2 miles awayon the ground.

(01:20:38):
In New York City. From. 911 like.
How, How do you how do they justmagically find that perfectly?
Perfect. No damage to it, just laying
there. And that's and then not only
that, but then they tie that passport to a hijacker.

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How And Charlie's like, well. I.
Don't know if that's true. I, I, there's no way that you
could say that he goes no, Charlie.
That's, that's the official narrative.
That's what they say and. Charlie says.
Well, I'm, I'll, I'll have to look that up, right?
Because I don't. I don't.

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Know if that's true or not? And.
Then another video goes. By the very next video, and I
don't know how how long this is on real timeline, but the next
video clip that this guy has in the thread Charlie.
Goes hey, did you? Know that 911, they found a

(01:21:42):
passport. He goes, yeah, some guy told me
about this at the university of whatever and he goes, I looked
it up and I started talking to some people I know and sure
enough, that's the official narrative.
The official narrative is that they found.
A perfect. Passport.
For a hijacker. On the second.

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Plane. That hit the, I think it was the
north tower and he's like, that doesn't make sense.
How is that? And then over the next.
Three videos over that thread you can see him slightly
becoming more and more critical.Just just slightly questioning a

(01:22:28):
motive of Israel more and more as those videos go by.
Then he makes. A mistake in like the 5th or 6th
video of this thread where he says something along the lines
of I'm. I'm paraphrasing here.

(01:22:50):
OK, I'm not quoting something along the lines where he
connects Mossad, Israel and Epstein.
Then two days before his assassination, he is doing a

(01:23:11):
show with Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro is a dual.
He holds a dual citizenship between Israel and the United
States. He is a known Jewish man, very
loyal to the Israeli state, and yet again says something.

(01:23:37):
Critical. About.
Israel. Forgive me, I don't know exactly
what it was, but you can see it on Ben Shapiro's face when
Charlie says this. Ben's face.
Is. Taken back.

(01:23:59):
And his eyes go wide, almost like a aw man, are you fucking
kidding me? Did you really just say that
like a well, sucks to suck man, now you're dead.
I'm not. I just want to be clear.
I'm not. Blaming Charlie Kirk's death on
Ben Shapiro, That is not where I'm going with this.

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OK, but it does. Look like Ben Shapiro.
Knows something. From this video Charlie.
Kirk also turned. Down funding from Israel as well
they were trying to fund TPUSA and Charlie Kirk said no all

(01:24:44):
right so there's a lot of weird connections with that stuff too
right they said no because of the whole.
Epstein thing, that was one of the videos that that I watched
where he became slightly more critical of the whole Yeah, he
found out that Galaine. Maxwell's father was Mossad.

(01:25:07):
He like that, that realization. Hit him just like the passport
realization and he started connecting the dots and he was
like, wait a minute, he's doing that.
He was. Doing the thing that we're
doing. Here or we're like, wait a
minute, this is there's weird. Connections and.
Stuff that, you know, that's what he was doing is questioning
the whole narrative of everything.
And like when you see we're justnobodies, we're just two

(01:25:30):
schmucks doing this thing, right?
Like nobody cares. But when you're on that level,
when you're like internationallyknown and you know, you're
making 10s of millions of dollars and, you know, you're
powerful person and you start doing that, it becomes dangerous
for you. Yeah.

(01:25:52):
Yeah, yeah. And.
Apparently, Netanyahu had invited him over to Israel to
help negotiate funding for Turning Point USA, in which he
turned him down. And then Charlie even stated on

(01:26:16):
a few shows and private conversations that he believed
that Israel was going to try to assassinate him or try to kill
him. I've seen a lot of people post
saying. That this was all conspiracy,
but I see. Him say it and I'm I know

(01:26:39):
there's. Deep fakes out there now, right
there is, yeah. If you could be careful, The
thing that's interesting to me too about.
That like is, you know, we live in a time where they could pull
things like this off without it being so direct.
Like it's not like the JFK assassination where back then,

(01:27:02):
you know, technology was much more limited than it is now,
right? However, they they still did
have some of the stuff like whenit comes to like mind control,
like Manchurian Candidate stuff,right?
I think I was talking to Crystalor I was, I was talking to
somebody. I was like, you know that movie
Jason Bourne or The Bourne Identity, right?
Are you familiar with Jason Bourne?

(01:27:23):
No, I mean, I've heard of it, but.
No, I've never seen it. The idea that they can.
Mind control you. The girl that we talked to
remember what was her name? Coco Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
The whole monarch. Mind control stuff right?
You know there is methods for creating assassins that don't

(01:27:49):
even know their assassins, right?
They can, literally. This is going to sound crazy.
To people but like it's real. They can brainwash you and mind
control you and you have no idea.
You're just a regular schmuck working at fucking Starbucks
doing your thing day-to-day. And whether it's the code word,

(01:28:09):
like the code word is in a movie, right?
They say the word, they say pumpkin.
And like all of a sudden you, you snap into your assassin self
and go and, and hit the top. Most likely going to be like a
frequency or something. It's going to be a frequency,
right? They hit you with the frequency
through your phone or your smartTV or whatever, right?
And that triggers the mind control programming and sends

(01:28:30):
you off to do the thing, right? So, you know, this, this Tyler
Robinson character that shot Charlie Kirk, it's in my mind,
it's plausible that he was one of these, you know, assassins
and didn't even know it, dude, right?
He might have woken up one day with just this urge to do this

(01:28:51):
thing because that's what was programmed into him via the
frequencies and the algorithms and all the other things that
happen, right? So.
You know, so my point in saying this is.
That like, you know, you could have a situation where a nation
state or a deep state somewhere in the world or whatever
assassinates somebody and there is literally no like physical

(01:29:14):
evidence or connection to it. Like you can't connect the two
actually, right. Like in a court of law would
never hold up type of thing because this is all done, you
know, subconsciously through various technologies and you
just can't you can't do it. There's.
No documents like they're not. Going to keep a fucking file

(01:29:36):
cabinet with this information init that somebody can go raid and
get the information on. Like this is like super top
secret black budget type operation shit that they could
do. Man, I don't know man it.

(01:29:58):
I I don't disagree. I know that it's definitely
possible. I know of a couple different.
And I know of a couple differentprograms.
Where they where they tested this and I know it's something
that they that they've put a lotof money, time and effort into a

(01:30:19):
long time ago. I don't even think it's a long
time ago. Well, no.
Like they started doing this. Back in like the Cold War and
shit, right, like they were using like these, like the Bob
Monroe Institute and like the whole, you know, see, I think
they had it ready for. The Cold War, I think that it
goes way before that for sure, for sure, but like.
All the documents that you can find in like the CIA library,

(01:30:41):
right? Like those are mostly are
published in the 70s and in the 80s saying like, hey, we can do
like the gateway process stuff, right?
Like the, you know, astral projection, the remote viewing,
like all this psychic warfare stuff that they were doing.
Like that shit was published in the early 80s and stuff like
that, which means they had already dialed it in by then,

(01:31:03):
right? So this idea that they could do
this type of stuff is not even something that's super new,
right? This is why I was saying like
they even had this back when JFKwas assassinated.
Like, they knew what they were doing to an extent then to be
able to do this type of thing, right?
Like Oswald said that he was a passy right now, everybody makes
all the connections like, oh, the mafia and like the FBI, like

(01:31:25):
was involved with JFK and all this shit.
And it's like maybe, maybe or maybe there was some other like,
psychic warfare shit going on. Yeah, man, I don't know.

(01:31:47):
And when you couple that with the numbers.
And the occult symbolism and allthat type of stuff, right?
The order out of chaos, the 30 threes, the 320 twos, the 66
sixes, the, the Freemasons, Whenyou, when you tie all that
together and then you do the research on those programs and
you realize that a lot of the people who were like high level
Freemasons and stuff, like they were involved in that shit too,

(01:32:09):
right? Like it starts to get real
fucking weird for sure. That's not to take away.
Like we said at the very. Beginning, we probably said 10
times. That's not to take away from the
fact that that dude was assassinated in cold blood in
front of everybody, right? But there's something else going
on. Yeah, 100%.

(01:32:36):
Oh man, I just have this eerie feeling that it's not.
Over so like. The whole.
Concept, like we talked about itbefore the.
Concept of Black Swan events, right I feel.
Like this is. A Black Swan event or.

(01:32:59):
A first of. A compile of a collection of
Black Swan events. Yeah.
I mean like I could tell you just on.
Base layer what they're doing with this right like they're
pitting left versus right even more.
They're creating even more of a divide using this right the
order out of chaos thing. You know, you could go online

(01:33:19):
right now. You can see so many people that
are just like, like if they werein the middle of the road, like
they've shifted one way or the other.
Like, you know, they're just creating more of this division
amongst the people, right? I was telling Kramer this on
Shadow Band the other day. It's like the people with the
pitchforks in the torches storming the castle.
And the king says, don't worry about it.
We just got to make the people with the pitchforks think that

(01:33:40):
the people with the torches are the bad guys, right?
And that's what they're doing, right?
You see that 3 million people marched in London the other day
for Charlie Kerr. The streets were completely
filled with people. 3 million people went out and marched for
this. Didn't even look.
It's insane. And that's.
What they're doing they're. Creating, call it a.

(01:34:03):
Civil War or? Something I don't really know.
And same with that girl who was murdered on the bus, right?
They're creating this like, I don't want to say like a race
war, but like that's part of it.Like there's aspects of that
that they're trying to foment, you know, there's the political
like civil war divide thing thatthey're trying to foment.
Like all of this at the same time using these events or out

(01:34:24):
of chaos, right? Like never let a good crisis go
to waste. That's.
Just. On base layer like that's not
even going deeper into like the occult and all that shit that's
just like hey man, this thing happened like let's use it and
foment all this shit and like you got people online.
Crystal was just telling me there's dudes on TikTok that are
basically doxing people who are like laughing at Charlie Kirk

(01:34:46):
and like those people are getting fired and shit and like,
you know, you've got all of thisgoing on and you're right.
It's not going to be the end of it.
You know, 'cause there's, The thing is, there's enough crazy
people out there. The population is big enough.
There's enough crazy people out there that you don't even have
to necessarily do the, the MK Ultra mind control assassin
thing anymore, right? Do they still do that?

(01:35:07):
I'm sure they do, but they got to do it once or twice.
And then the other 30 million people who are paying attention
to this type of stuff, like out of that 30 million people, 1% of
them are psychopaths. They'll just go do it.
They'll just continue the cycle,right?
So somebody, some asshole out there will retaliate and then

(01:35:28):
another asshole out there will just retaliate with no puppet
master. Doing it, if that.
Makes sense? You see what I'm saying?

(01:35:50):
It is like, yeah. Yeah, it's bedtime.
Yeah. All right.
Well, next week will be a will be a easier topic to swallow.
We're going to jump back into the world of cryptids and urban

(01:36:11):
legends and stuff. It'll be fun.
I can't wait. It's been a long time since
we've since we've done that. I need to.
I need a good one of those. Conspiracies are getting heavy
bro. They they are.

(01:36:33):
Well, all right, Jeff, you got anything to put out before we go
negative? All right.
Don't do anything. Don't do anything.
Stupid people, all right. Yeah, don't, don't.
All right, don't, don't fucking stay safe, OK?
Don't take, don't take laws in your own hands.
Protect your family. That's that's number one.

(01:36:56):
Do that. But don't, don't do anything
stupid. And just know we're just
podcasters, OK? We're not professional or
anything, all right? We don't condone shit.
I'm a professional badass. He is he.

(01:37:18):
Is he is you see that the the salt in his beard professional.
Oh wait, that ass. All right, let.
Me get in there for you guys. Look at that.
Oh yeah. Makes you want like it that all
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