250. DOCS: John Titor, Time Traveler

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Imagine that this line represents a time in the present
1985 Future Past. Prior to this point in time,
somewhere in the past, the timeline skewed into this
tangent, creating an alternate 1985 alternate to You need an

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Einstein from reality for everyone else.

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Time Travel The John Teeter Mystery In the 20 thirties, the
new American Army developed the technology required for world
line traveling, a concept that many people would misconceive as
time traveling, but was not justa simple movement through time.
Rather, the technology relied onliterally moving to a point in

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other world lines or parallel worlds where a specific task
could be completed in regards toa particular mission.
In an attempt to rebuild the once great nation that was
devastated in 2015 by nuclear missile attacks by our
adversaries in Russia, the US military began using said
technology to send specifically trained soldiers to go back to

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specific times in other world lines to retrieve specific items
of technology needed to rebuild and prevent a further decline of
the American civilization as well as reinvent technological
capabilities that were lost to World War 31.
Particular person sent back was a man whose target was an IBM
5100 personal computer in the year 1975.

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Why such a computer? Wouldn't something from the mid
1970s be completely obsolete foranything possibly needed in the
future? Most would believe that the
answer would be a yes, but this particular piece of ancient tech
held a specific capability that was exactly what the future
would need to correct a criticalissue ready to come to fruition
in the year 2038, a mere two years after the mission takes

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place. The issue lies in the Linux
command system of 32 bit computers, which are the only
ones usable after the effects ofnuclear EMP's that left modern
technology as useless relics. This man was chosen due to his
relationship to a specific IBM engineer that just so happened
to be his own grandfather who ultimately would give our time

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traveler one of the first ever personal computers that he was
searching for. In the year 1998, a small family
in an unknown area of Florida were shocked to meet a man at
the front door who claimed to betheir son from the future.
The family, which consisted of ahusband, wife and their newborn,
would eventually become convinced that the man was who

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he claimed he was and allowed him to stay with them for three
years. This strange 30 something year
old version of their then newborn son came with a warning.
So Y2K was going to cripple society and he was here as a
promise to the husband's father to help them through this
troubling time to ensure their survival into the post
technological world. As we all know, Y2K brought no

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critical changes to our lives and passed with.
Ease. This bothered the man greatly as
he planned his trip back to a world line that closely
resembled his original 1. His thoughts and concerns were
that he may have changed the future and worried about his
family, but with a greater understanding of timelines,
world lines, paradoxical consequences and quantum
physics, he would set out to warn the world of the grave

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future that they faced and what he believed was only postponed
but yet very inevitable. The man would begin posting to
chat rooms and message boards toshare his knowledge and possibly
help few people prepare without giving them too much information
as to completely alter the worldline to a completely foreign
outcome. The first post appeared in
October of 2000 by his username.Time Travel under score 0 Quote

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My name is John, I'm 38 and a time traveler from Florida.
These chat room conversations would eventually go down the
history as the possible proof that time travel really exists
and that this particular man wasthe real deal.
From the time he arrived in 1998after his trip to in 1975, he
sat and wait for a window to a comparable world line to his

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original to come about. In early 2001 that window opened
and he left us for good and his family moved in Nebraska to
escape the upcoming nuclear war,Second American Civil War in the
fall of all modern technology that was heavily warned by the
world line traveling sun. Today we dive into his story,
his predictions, and all the other details regarding the

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world's most famous time traveler, John Teeter.
Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole, the future storyline
During the time frame that the Internet was buzzing about a
strange man who called himself John Teeter and claimed to be a

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time traveler from the year 2036.
The very same man would paint a story of a future that no
current civilian in the United States of America would want to
see come to fruition. This terrifying possible future
of America began with the presidential election in the
fall of 2004 and America's second Civil War breaking out in
the following year due to half of the population's disdain for

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the outcome of the controversialelection.
In the first few acts of the newand never named President of the
United States, these acts would be directed strikes at liberties
that Americans were accustomed to.
The federal government would make the mistake in believing
that the majority of the citizens of the United States
would welcome security over their own freedoms.
Due to this, many people moved out of the big cities and began

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new lives in the rural areas. The country where small town
living was adopted. By the year 2011 the new civil
war was in full swing and was sointense that Teeter described it
as being quote at everyone's doorstep, with events that were
comparable to Waco happening frequently.
The war was not between a specific region of the country
against the other as the first Civil war was, rather it was

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largely involving urban against rural areas, with the major
issues being fought over being the immigration policies and the
way the new administration was dealing with the southern
border. To be clear, there were no
mentions by Teeter in respect tothe political parties of the
Republicans and Democrats as A2 warring entities.
He strictly stated that it was between cities and rural areas

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and would even mention at one point that by his time in 2036,
the Democrat and Republican parties faded away and were
replaced by 10 separate new parties.
During the next few years after the peak of the Second American
Civil War, the entire world began to fall into a selfish
rule of some of the most powerful countries in the
planet. Then in 2015, Russia set off a

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series of surprise nuclear attacks on China, America, and
various areas of Europe, an event that would be marked and
referred to as End Day from thatpoint on.
This attack was triggered by eastern encroachment by the
Germans, with a few Western European countries backing their
advances, and it was unclear if America was assisting in this
movement. But the enemy that the Russians

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were looking to attack was not the general population of these
areas. Rather, the enemy was attacking,
at least in the United States, was what they called the quote
UN quote American Federal Empire, a title given to the
corrupt government that was causing so much turmoil not only
within the borders of their own country but worldwide.
Russia was so careful and soughtto complete their task without

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any real damage to the infrastructure of America.
They even went out of their way to ensure that the nuclear
weapons exploded close to the ground at their targets of the
major metropolitan political powers of Washington DC and
Jacksonville, FL. Instead of the option of
conducting what is called an airburden, which is considered much
more dangerous and damaging thanthe alternative ground burst due

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to the reverberation of the force off of the ground
multiplying the amplification ofthe area of damage and
effectiveness of the electromagnetic pulse or EMP,
caused by the explosion. By doing so, Russia effectively
crippled the corrupt and dangerous American government
and allow the civilians to reimagine and take control of
the governance of their country.Although this act effectively

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ended the civil American conflict that was ongoing for
the previous ten years, it also effectively propelled the world
into the Third World War, along with the intense Arab and
Israeli conflict that was ragingin the Middle East.
For clarification, Teeter did have rules against giving
anybody information that would pull them away from their
natural death in their world line, and the Jacksonville, FL

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nuclear explosion was a slip up that was uncharacteristic of
Teeter. The mention of Washington DC
would lead to many arguing that this is well known by anybody
living in the area around the the nation's capital, that they
would be targeted naturally in such an event.
So in that case, Teeter wasn't going against his own rule.
Then in 2020, Congress would meet for the last time and

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completely remove the Constitution from the structure
of America in an attempt to start over.
In this start over, America drafted a new Constitution.
That. Closely resembled the original,
but lacked many ways for the government to make changes to it
without a very lengthy and difficult process while
resetting the standard that the original constitution was
created. For.

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It would also lack the likeness of being taken advantage of, as
the current Constitution commonly is for political gain.
There was mentioned by Teeter that Americans still paid
federal taxes but no longer paidincome tax as it was added with
the installment of the 16th Amendment, which was no longer
an acceptable notion under the new Constitution, although the
16th Amendment was clearly out in 2030.

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Six it is. Believed that the 1st 10
amendments known as the Bill of Rights was included as there
were subtle indirect mentions oftheir benefits by Teeter in some
of his posts, posts and replies on a few different sources.
But to be clear, this was not confirmed and is only
speculation regarding the clues in his post.
From this point, the country began relying on their
intercommunal trading rather than corporate megastores, a

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change that would become very important and quite successful.
the United States split up into five general regions, all with
their own president, with the capital of the United States
being in Omaha, NE. Power of legislation was left
mostly to the individual. Counties in which people lived
in and. Became less powerful as you went
up to the state level and even less powerful when you went to

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the national and federal levels.This kept the power of
governance closer to home for Americans.
Speaking of states, the 50 current states still exist in
teeters worldline and year of 2036, but they have been grouped
and separated into 5 regions that mostly aligned to their own
common concerns and economies. From this change, the office the

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President of the United States was diluted from one person to a
representative from each of the five regions.
This was done to take power awayfrom the executive branch and
make top priority issues at the federal level a conversation
rather than one person's decision.
Where in his world line, the office of the President would
accumulate power that was unheard of in modern times,
which ultimately led to the unrest.

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We. Discussed earlier in this
chapter, in the year 2034, John Teeter graduated from college at
what was then called Fort UF, which is currently known as the
University of Florida, on a scholarship earned through his
time in the Florida militia known as the Fighting
Diamondbacks. After his graduation, Teeter was
then recruited to the US Army's 177th Temporal Recon Unit as a

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time traveller in training, withhis first mission coming in
2036. And what would become the
purpose of Teeter's time in the years 2002, 1001 when he was
posting to the chat rooms and message boards across a few
different websites. The reason for the trips of the
past was to ultimately make his way to the year 1975 to retrieve
a specific IBM computer that we break down more in the next
section that was to be used to rebuild the damaged portions of

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the Internet infrastructure destroyed during end day and the
resulting World War 3. John's Mission On January 27th,
2001, a post appeared on Art Bell's post to post online
message board penned by a man calling himself John Teeter.
Just one in a series of posts tospan across a little over six

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months and across many differentonline chat rooms and message
boards that would send the community of 40 and fanatics and
skeptics alike into a huge debate.
This specific post reads word for word quote readings.
I am a time traveler from the year 2036.
I'm on my way home after gettingan IBM 5100 computer system from
the year 1975. My time machine is a stationary

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mass temporal displacement unit manufactured by General
Electric. The unit is powered by two top
spin dual positive singularitiesthat produce a standard offset
tippler sinusoid. I will be happy to post pictures
of the unit in an immediate response to his own post the
very next day of January 27th, 2001.

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John Teeter would make that he finds it understandable that
many of the readers and correspondences of the message
board would find it hard to believe that he was a
self-proclaimed quote UN quote time traveller from the year
2036. Even making mentioned that in
his year there are still plenty of people who believe that the
concepts and the ability of timetravel is a hoax.
This is a post that we will diveinto later in the presentation

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when we dissect many of the posts that Teeter had made
throughout his run as the internet's largest and most
intriguing mystery. During this time, Teeter would
go on to make some very impressive statements that many
who dispel the possibility that he was a time traveller would
call quote UN quote lucky predictions that ultimately came
true. Yet there were a few that did

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not, which many will argue that is not evidence against his
legitimacy since the concept of different timelines is a well
believed theory among physicistsand specialists in similar or
branching fields. We'll get more into the evidence
for and against Teeter in upcoming sections, but for now
we'll stick with the core of theTeeter story and his mission.
The core or reasoning behind Teeter's mission of time travel

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would be the retrieval of the IBM 5100 system that a family
member of his had access to in September of 1975.
The IBM 5100 was one of the world's first quote UN quote
portable personal computers everproduced.
It was this particular model that Teeter claimed to be
looking to retrieve due to its unique capability to emulate

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programs from both the BASIC or beginners Purpose Symbolic
Instruction code and APL programs, which stood simply for
a programming language, as well as many other legacy code
programs used by IBM. Essentially, this computer was
able to not only use modern and common languages, but also had
the capability to emulate and decipher old ones that were

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still being used by computers inthe future that survived the EMP
blast from the nuclear attack in2015.
These surviving computers were, of course, old systems that were
scarcely locked away in people's.
Basements, closets, barns and attics and were extremely rare,
but one thing that was great about them is that they were
just primitive enough to not be affected by an EMP if they were

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not plugged in to an electrical source, a fact that.
Turned out to be 100% completelytrue and a fact that very few
people in the entire world even knew outside of the original
engineers of the IBM 5100 system.
According to the anonymous author of the book Conviction of
a Time Traveler, there were only12 people working on the system.
And paving the way. For personal computers at IBM in

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Minnesota, which alone makes thefact that teeter knowing this
information was absolutely incredible.
The BASIC and APL programs are both computer programming
languages that are the most widely used for programming
languages by engineers and manufacturers of computer
systems and are still used by professionals and hobbyists
today. The BASIC system was used as the
easy quote, UN quote anybody cando IT system made entirely by

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using simple English like keywords for commands where APL
is the much more advanced version in a state aided by
hackaday.com's article from December 23rd 2023 titled
Bringing APL to the Masses. The history of the IBM 5100
quote is a multi dimensional array based language that uses a
range of special graphic symbolswhich appears cryptic and

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unfamiliar to those that are notfluent in its use.
The purpose of using the APL system over BASIC was due to it
being capable of excelling at concisely describing complex
functions, although the 5100 wasnot a commercial.
Success The hardware did achievethe goal of bringing an APL
system to the average consumer, as well as the production and

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wide use of the IBM Palm processor, which according to
the same article on hackaday.comquote implemented an emulator in
microcode to allow example givenrunning system 360 APL code on a
5100 as well as BASIC. The definition of the action of
emulating provided by geeksforgeeks.org's article from

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May 6. 16th 2024 titled what is emulation is quote the capacity
of a computer program that stimulates the behavior of
another program or system insideof an electrical device is known
as emulation. They allow a computer called the
host system to run software or use peripherals designed for
another system known as the guest system.

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The purpose of needing such a system was to use the BASIC and
APL computer programming languages emulation capabilities
of the IBM 5100 to prevent a theUnix timeout in the year 2038.
Unix is an operating system created in the very early 1970s
that allows the user of the system to interact with the
computer itself through the use of ACLI or command line

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interface. Unix is multi user and
multitasking and is still widelyused today.
There is a well known issue withthe Unix appropriately called
the year 2038 problem. AKAY 2038 AKA Y2K 3/8 and also
AKA the Apocalypse and is well known amongst users today.

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Many computers measure time using the Unix system and is
measured by way of a measurementof time since January 1st of
1970, a point in time known as the Unix epoch.
According to this problem, some computers will stop representing
time at 03/14 and 17 seconds Coordinated Universal Time on

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January 19th of 2038 as the limit of its assigned find 32
bit integer or data type. At this time clocks will go back
to the date December 13th 19 O one at 2045 and 52 seconds.
This is due to the data space ofa 32 bit integer having the
power store of 2 to the 32nd power of unique numbers.

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Doing the math, this comes out to a value of 4,294,967,296
different unique numbers. Dividing this number by the
number of seconds in year, whichis 31,536,000.
This will allow for a little over 136 years of storage in the

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sense of individual seconds. The Unix system uses a negative
value that corresponds to a positive value, so that 136
years is actually divided by two, a value of 68 years.
And those values get added to the front end of the date of
January 1st 1970 and the back end, giving you the dates of
January 19th 2036, a little overthe 68 years after the Unix

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epoch, and December 13th, 19 O1,a little over 68 years before
the Unix epoch. This is of course not a real
concern to modern day technologies and can easily be
fixed, but will be if there was such an EMP event to occur that
knocks out all of modern technologies, essentially
leaving us with no option but togo back to using. 32 bit storage

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tech which during teeters 2036 America's entire infrastructure
is run off. One thing that was an incredibly
an interesting fact, pointed outby the anonymous author of the
book Conviction of a Time Traveller, was that the IBM 5100
never had an internal clock system installed, making it
invaluable to a civilization that was ready to have its

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entire infrastructure shut down.Because of a flaw in the Unix
system of old 32 bit computers, the IBM 5100 was essentially Y2K
38 proof. On his way back to the year 2036
from 1975, John Teeter stopped. In the year 2000 to archive some
data for use in the future. During his time in the year

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2000, Sean would stay with his parents and young self in their
home. There would be a few posts
either discussing time paradoxesor answering questions about
seeing and interacting with oneself while outside of your
specific time, which according to Teeter was 100% completely OK
to interact in any way you wanted to.
Teeter's final post was in Marchof 2001, but the legacy of this

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amazing story of a possible timetraveller from the year 2036 has
become the pinnacle of urban legends and the lead example of
how the declassification or reveal of the technology of time
travel could be just around the corner, the post reads in its
entirety. I will be leaving the storyline
shortly and this will be my final post.

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There are only a handful of people who will know exactly
when I will be leaving and I'm sure they will let you know when
I'm gone. In the last few days I have
found your choice of topics quite interesting, and from an
objective point, I think it collectively answers one of your
own questions. If time travel is real, where
are all the time travelers? In the past I've stated that

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quite frankly you all scare the hell out of me and I'm sure
other temporal drivers would feel the same.
But now I have an expanded explanation with two examples.
A while ago on one of the posts I related an experience I had
with my parents while we were driving down a highway.
Every now and then we would passsomeone who was in obvious
distress with their vehicle. I was amazed that so many people

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would pass them by without stopping to help.
Their explanation was fear. The risk of helping someone was
too great and with today's technology, they probably had a
cell phone anyway. If they didn't, the walk to the
gas station would be good for them and teach them a lesson for
running out of gas. The other example is the plight
of the homeless when you pass them as individuals on the
street. I see the way people selectively

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choose an alternate path to avoid them.
Those two examples best define why time travellers do not show
themselves and trying to help you.
We put ourselves at great risk and there's really no point to
it. We know the nature of time
dictates that travelling betweenexact world lines is impossible.
Therefore the only result we will see will be the ones we

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stay to see. Since world lines, outcomes and
events are infinite, we have better things to do.
When I arrive in the new 1998 World line on my way home, I
could easily start all of this again and continue to go through
the same conversations with all the.
Same people however, I already know you won't pay any attention
or believe me because we've already been through it on this

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world line. Besides, I think the.
Walk to the gas station will do you some good, but one more
interesting tidbit we will dive into more in a later section.
In 2009, when entertainment lawyer Larry Haver released a
letter to the public provided byTeeter's mother Kay, penned by
John Teeter himself. In this letter, John outlines

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how there were two John Teeter. Teeters in our timeline at the
same time and that both were responsible for the posts that
had the world's attention. 1 John Teeter coming back from
1975 after retrieving the IBM 5100 and another from 2036 in
attempts to answer a few questions he didn't have answers
to the first time around. Since his Last Post, there have

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been numerous websites, videos, articles, and books that have
been published attempting to either prove or disprove
Teeter's claims, as well as existing as sources for all of
the archives. Teeter information Incorrect
predictions or things to come. Early in his spree of posting on

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Fortian or paranormal chat sites, Teeter would make a few
of the predictions that would ultimately not come true as time
would tell. One of which was that in the
year 2005, a civil war would break out in the United States
between the urban and rural areas of the country due to the
fallout of the previous year's presidential election and
conflicts at the Southern. Border the Civil War.

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Would then break out into all out war by the year 2008 and
would be at every single American's doorstep having what
he described as a quote UN quoteWaco style event every month
that steadily gets worse. The American Federal Empire of
the major cities which ruled laws and governance over all of
the country would eventually have the cities of Washington,

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DC and Jacksonville, FL successfully naked by Russia in
what essentially ends the brief World War Three, which
essentially. Actually ends the Second Civil
War and the day in remembrance would forever be known as End
Day. The historical fallout of such a
war and use of nuclear weapons would see the United States
splitting up to the rule of fiveseparate regional presidents,

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with Omaha, NE becoming the new US Capitol.
Each region is under its own rule and military mission.
This of course never happened inour time flow, but if you look
at the political landscape of today's modern United States you
will see a mirror reflection of what Teeter described happening
in his prophecy. The rural red states are

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favorable to conservative idealsand the population reflects that
in the way that the majority of the population will vote.
But yet the exact same can be said for the urban areas of the
blue States and their liberal ideals, with tensions building
with what seems to be every single day between people with
differing. Thoughts on how they and society
as a whole would live. I am left to wonder if Teeter

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was right and maybe we are just behind compared to his timeline.
Teeter specifically calls out the possibility of his
predictions or prophecies not coming true when he says that
they will, and combats it with the fact that his world line and
our world line have what he refers to as a 2.5% divergent.
From each other. We will dive into the definition

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of this a bit more in a future chapter, but for now many
skeptics believe this is too easy of an out from teeter and
claim that this alone proves himto be nothing more than a fraud
and a hoaxer. While others point to his
convenience, rules or ethos involving not disclosing any
information that would lead to someone's financial gain, cheat
death, or drastically change anyone's future.

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Skeptics pointed to this as a surefire way of John Teacher's
proof of authenticity. Another prediction that we have
not seen come to light as of yetis the effect of Cruz felt.
Jacob's Disease, AKA CJD or the variant version known as
VCJDCJD, is the human form of Bovine Spungiform Encephalitis,

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or BSE. Which is a rare and deadly
neurological condition known as Mad cow disease, which is
brought on by aberrant or mutated proteins known as
prions. The symptoms seen with BSE are
non normal behaviors, loss of coordination, behavioral issues
and death. The human version of CJD is what

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Teeter warned us. About as he claimed that this
was a very serious problem in his world line and people were
regularly dying in its grips. CJD can take months to years.
To incubate in a human host and a person may not show signs or
symptoms for some time, with a more precise answer not being
able to be given with current studies.
Some even claim that it could take decades for someone to show

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symptoms of this 100% fatal disease.
So this is yet another prediction that Teeter had
mentioned that just may not havehad enough time to incubate yet.
Most of the world. Could.
Potentially have this disease and not know it yet.
Maybe Teeter comes from a time where the incubation period is
completing regularly the EverettWheeler model and Divergent.

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There are many topics that we have covered in the tenure of
the Infinite Rabbit. Hole that have involved the
concept of the possibility of multiple worlds or some refer to
as multiple universes or the multiverse.
This particular model of existence is referred to as the
Everett Wheeler model and was first theorized by a physicist
by the name of Hugh Everett the 3rd and his advisor John

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Archibald Wheeler in 1957 as a part of Everett's thesis for his
PhD. The basics of this model was his
explanation of the possibility of multiple worlds or universes
that exist simultaneously as well as exist in the same 4
dimensions of the XY and Z axis as well as the 4th dimension of
time. The whole different locations in

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the 5th and above dimensions. In the Everett Wheeler model,
every single branch in possible realities takes place at points
that Everett refers to as an event.
These events would create 2 simultaneously progressing
worlds that move forward in timeafter their individual and
different outcomes of their specific events.
This simple mechanism would create an infinite amount of

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these event created universes, which would.
Ultimately mean that every single possibility being
possible since the beginning of time existing simultaneously
with our own reality. These branching events can be
from multiple possible differenttypes of events.
One being the simple change fromsomeone answering yes instead of

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no to someone else's request or favor.
But also implies to the small subatomic events and their
outcomes, such as how similar waves of energy such as light
reacting the concept of superposition in physics.
When they crossover the same physical position in time and
space or from simply being observed, the title given to the
multiple universes would be referred to as World Lines.

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It would come to be one of the biggest questions ever left
unanswered by Teeter. Did Teeter's arrival into a
world line create our own branchin the flow of time and world
lines? In other words, did this event
create a branch reality? That we exist in now and be the
reason why we never had a secondCivil War breakout.
Could he be the catalyst to our own experiences and could there

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be another branch of reality where he never came?
And the legend of John Teeter, the time traveller from 2036 is
completely unknown. It was Teeter's explanation of
the concept of world lines. That is why many do not believe
that his predictions that did not come true mean anything at
all. Meaning that any false
predictions by Teeter does not mean that he was a hoaxer.

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Simply said, just because Teetertold a story with certain events
that never came true does not mean that he faked being a time
traveller. According to the Everett Wheeler
model, our rural line could havethousands or millions of
different outcomes compared to Teeters, and therefore the
evidence of what he got wrong means nothing.
Rather, the more important information lies with what he

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got right. Correct predictions.
For every incorrect prediction made by John Teeter, there are
plenty of correct predictions aswell, some of them being
extremely unlikely and huge in reference to importance.
The first one that author Mike Sauve points out in his book Who
authored The John Teeter Legend is one that was originally asked

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on a chat forum by username MikeColesnick on January 29th, 2001
with a simple question. What is the ginger invention?
Teeter's reply is just as simple.
It looks like some sort of motorized scooter.
What do you think it is? On the morning of December 3rd,
2001, the world would be introduced to the truth behind

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the project Ginger code name. An inventor by the name of Dean
Kamen would publicly announce his invention and company that
share the same name known as Segway on this day's edition of
the Good Morning America morningtelevision show.
The machine, known as a Segway, is a vertical motorized personal
transportation device with two large wheels and a self

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balancing platform which included a long stem coming from
the platform to the rider's midsection, ending in AT shape
to allow for steering and control.
The Segway looks very much like a scooter.
This would be spoiled almost an entire year earlier when John
Teeter answered Cole's next question.
A famous debunker by the pseudonym Hoax Hunter would

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point to this particular exampleand many others like it as
perfect proof that the entirety of the Teeter story is a hoax.
The claim that the people who asked such questions such as
Mike Kolznick had zero or littleInternet presence outside of the
posts in the forums regarding Teeter and even more
specifically the post that Teeter himself replied to.

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The argument has gone on to gainthe title The Teeter Confederacy
and is most skeptics initial response to the Teeter legend.
Amongst these correct predictions that some claim to
be more of a prophecy, there is a laundry list of examples that
a lot of people use as both claims that that John Teeter was
a hoaxer and controlled the other usernames that answered

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his original post, as well as the people who believe that this
is a story of a real time traveler.
A few of these examples are the description of the Internet
system from 2036 looking like the modern day cell phone system
which was not even close to being a thing that resembles
today's system in 2001. The rise of influencers and the

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market for independent entertainment that some people
will make their lives living offof.
Which seems like the world that YouTube has introduced to us all
when it was released in February2005 with a very primitive
version of what it is today and the birth of the profession of
the influencer. The widely used term the web in
his responses when referring to the Internet that author

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Microsoft claims wasn't widely used until the year 2016.
But the term was first coined bythe English computer scientist
Tim Berners Lee while he was working at the highly
conspiratorial research company CERN in Geneva, Switzerland in
1989. With the use of the three letter
acronym WWW that is placed before every website on the

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Internet that stands for World Wide Web.
CERN, a French acronym for the European Organization of Nuclear
Research, has been Ground Zero for many different highly
debated topics involving fringe sciences and hypothetical
physics since its establishment in 1954, but the slang term web
was not widespread practice being used until at least the

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mid twenty 10s. A reference to the militia in
his Times Florida that he joinedin 2011 at the age of 13 called
The Fighting Diamondbacks and the General Military's love of a
poem by by the title of A Soldier's Winter.
At the time of the mention of this poem in 2001, there was no
poem registered with such title,but in 2005 a retired Colonel of
the Department of Defense by thename of Larry Cluck would

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publish such a poem which reads the day before.
It wasn't snowing After amber made our earth now glowing.
The trees are strangers leering,disapproving in the ash of
winter. Our minds are now moving.
My world, my life, my wandering path.
This seems not God, but man's own wrath.
I pray God's eyes may see us again, gaze upon us at our end.

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We will rebuild, we will renew from a world of greed and lust
that left so few. Remind me that I am still His
child, and prove us with your mercy.
Mild. When asked to provide the lyrics
of this poem he regarded so highly in a post questioned in
2001, John Teeter replied a soldiers winter the day before
it wasn't snowing. The trees are strangers leering,

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disapproving in the ash of winter.
My world, my life, my wandering path.
I pray God's eyes may once againgaze upon me and remind me that
I am still his child. Quote.
I only think I remember the first line, but the last one I
remember it has quite a few morelines that I don't remember.
It was rumored that this was written first as a letter by a

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soldier. After he had died.
It was added to and edited by others.
In my opinion, it has become a symbol for the collective guilt
my parents generation feels for what became of the world.
Teeter had made mentioned in oneof his posts about the
composition of his time machine,referred to by the title of a
Seatac 204 Gravity distortion unit and how it worked.

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He told of how the machine housed 2 miniature black holes
to allow the machine to manipulate time using Einstein's
theory of General relativity andthat the black holes themselves
were manufactured by CERN. In a post very close to his
departure, Teeter had mentioned that CERN would announce their
ability to manufacture such black holes in the fall of 2001.

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Ended up not being true, as CERNdid not finish their Large
Hadron Collider or LHC until 2008, with an issue arising with
a magnet just nine days later, keeping the LHC down until about
a year after that. But here is one of the very many
supposed lies that Teeter purposely told in order to
protect the true story and the future work done with time

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travel. In the book Conviction of a Time
Traveler, the anonymous author explains that Teeter may have
purposely lied when saying that CERN was behind the
manufacturing of the curse singularities used in the C204.
It was the author's theory that the real manufacturers came from
right here in the United States at the Relativistic Heavy Ion
Collider or RHIC in Upton, NY. The RHIC began operations after

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its commissioning in the year 2000 and specializes as the only
Collider in the world that can produce polarized ions, which
leaves the ions electron cloud distorted from an external
electrical field. Mix this with the fact that the
company that produces the C204 in the future, General Electric,
had many contracts with the RHICin the early 2000s and continues

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to have many. More today Who was John Teeter?
There have been many possible names thrown around as the true
identity of the person hoaxing under the name John Teeter or
his now famous username Time Travel under score 0.
In his book Who authored the John Teeter Legend?

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Author Mike Sauve mentioned 6 people starting with the Trioa
brothers Larry, Richard and Maury Haber, as well as Joseph
Matheny, Oliver Williams, and a mysterious author slash poster
by the pseudonym Temporal Recon.Larry Haber is an entertainer
attainment lawyer from Orlando, FL who was officially listed as
a lawyer for the pseudonym K Teeter, A fictitious name used

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in place of John Teeter's mother's real name.
Larry Haber is also the now CEO of the John Teeter Foundation,
LLC. The foundation holds the rights
to the once shared Insignia of the 177th Temporal Recon Unit
that John Teeter claimed to haveserved with under the future
military. The John Teeter Foundation also

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operates the official John Teeter Foundation website and
has also published the book JohnTeeter A Time Traveler's Tale,
which now sells for a minimum of$400.00 everywhere you look.
And it's quite. Literally 108 plus page book
documenting every single post and reaction by John Teeter.
I've even seen it for as high as$1000 for a used copy on eBay.

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Larry Haber has appeared on multiple venues including the
world famous Coast to Coast AM radio show with George Nori and
Faye the Black, with Jimmy Church as the middleman between.
The radio host and Teeter's mother, Kay Kay, has never
appeared publicly and many people believe her to be
completely fictitious, which helps the arguments of skeptics
that believe Larry Haber to be John Teeter himself for

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financial gains. But there is one major flaw in
this theory. Larry Haber is a very successful
entertainment lawyer who has regular clientele from both
Disney and Universal Studios among many others in the
Orlando, FL general area. He does not need to represent a
possible fictitious character for financial.
He is already well known and wealthy due to his enormous

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client list after releasing his payment records.
It also goes to show that Kay Teeter and anyone else under the
Teeter umbrella that claims to be directly related to the Time
Traveller appears minimally in comparison to the other Titanic
names. But why is he so involved in the
ownership of such a foundation then?
He simply says that he is a fan of the legend.

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The account of Kay Teeter fell into his lap by accident and he
knew absolutely nothing about the story before her initial
contact. Everything he knows came
directly from the family and he cannot claim that he believes
everything that they say or whathe has said in a public forum.
But one thing he can guarantee is that the family believes it
100%, which all may be true as well.

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The funding records for the JohnTeeter Foundation is dismal and
there is not anything really being made there either, at
least in comparison to his practice, which leads many to
believe that if he was doing this for financial gains, then
quote he must be the worst entertainment lawyer in the
entire world. As mentioned by author Mike
Soft, Larry Haber was also the man responsible for releasing

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the famous letter penned to the world by John Teeter himself,
titled John Teeter Letter 177 Tempest Edax Rearam Latin for
Time that Devours All things andis also the slogan used by the
177th Temporal Recon Unit. This famous letter was directly
given to Haver by Kate Teeter and produced into a video on

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YouTube read by an automated voice.
I have included the transcript in a later section when the
contents will make more sense. The only thing posted on the
official John Teeter website is a set of charts, each with six
entries. There are a few different
theories behind these charts. Some include this being a log of
important posts that other teeters may need in order to

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find their way home. Each chart has three columns in
addition to the six rows of entries.
The first column is a date, the second seems to be the divergent
value, and the third is sparselyfilled out with what looks to be
notes about the post in reference.
Richard and Maury Haber, Larry Haber's two brothers, are also

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common perps on the book as possibly being one of or the
John Teeter. Maury is an IT administrator and
is very well versed in the subjects of technology, which
makes him a prime suspect to have the knowledge that most of
the public did not have regarding the IBM 5100
capabilities. This theory has Larry playing
his brother's lawyer and the other brother Richard as being a

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protector as well, possibly creating fake posts and random
chat boards to create a divergent away from his brother.
This would also explain the letter that Teeter released
explaining that there were in fact 2 John Teeters making posts
in 2001. The previously mentioned hoax.
Hunter had also uncovered that the PO Box, PO Box 47071 used

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for the John Teeter Foundation is under the name Larry Haver,
but was previously under the name John R Haver, A fake name
that does not exist in this Haver family and shares the same
first name with the mysterious John Teeter.
But the middle initial R in the fake name is claimed by many to
stand for Richard, the brother who is behind the entire hoax

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put on by the three siblings. Joseph Matheny A tech worker
since 1993, Joseph Matheny is pointed to by many as the most
probable real John Teeter. Once working at big tech
companies like Adobe and Netscape, Matheny is the primary
authority behind the Internet's first ever alternate reality

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game, Ong's Hat. Visiting his descriptions listed
on the sites he is active on leaves you a bit uncomfortable,
as the man clearly sees himself as another worldly being.
The intro listed in Microsoft's book Who authored the John
Teeter Legend has his self description listed as quote
Joseph Matheny, a pseudonym for a plethora of evolutionary

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intelligence agents throughout the Galaxy like Monte Katsim,
Luther Blisset, or Saint Germain.
You never know who or when he's going to pop up.
He is rumored to never sleep, moonlight as a technology
consultant, daylight as a fireproof vampire, and live by
the motto Nonservium and. Also never.

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Or failed to leave a ticking time bomb behind.
A lot of people who do not believe that Matheny is the real
John Teeter claim that he is just a simplistic nerd who uses
big words and a sadly small collection of go to terms to
make himself look important to his legion of other nerds who
looks to him for approval. But there is some juice behind

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the theory. He could very well be John
Teeter in the 1980s Game Along'sHat that became most popular in
2001. There is a book that outlines
the science behind time travel. In fact, the entire game series
is based around the paranormal, conspiracy, cult, and
pseudoscience genres. But it is in the time travel
book on Ong's Hat that Matheny is the author of that the

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connections between Teeter and Matheny begin to really shine
through. Then there is the fact that
Joseph Matheny has come out publicly to be one of the four
men he claims are responsible for the entirety of the John
Teeter mystery. He would even call into Coast to
Coast AM and ask questions to the website editor of the John
Teeter story by the name of Oliver Williams who appeared on

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the show to talk about the topicof time travel and John Teeter.
Matheny would always appear on the caller line under the name
Josh during every time travel episode he could.
He played a troll whose purpose was to have fun at the
interviewees expense. Matheny would eventually reach
out to the previously mentioned Larry Haber, the entertainment

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lawyer from Orlando, FL who published a book that now goes
for over $300 on almost every website you look at titled John
Teeter A Time Traveler's Tale. He would threaten to expose
Larry as a fraud and is quoted in Microsoft's book as telling
Haver quote, you're talking to John Teeter, motherfucker.
And that he would go public withquote, what a fucking fraud you

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are. Matheny claims that two days
after his phone call to Larry Haver, the book was no longer
listed as in print on Amazon. Haver claims that this is bogus
and that he has never been in contact with a man by the name
of Mathani, nor has he been in contact with anyone claiming to
be the real John Teeter who threatened him.

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His story for the book being outof print is due to the request
of the Teeter family. Temporal Recon.
Temporal Recon is a pseudonym used by a mysterious person who
has authored an entire book on how the John Teeter story could
very well be true. The name of the book is
Conviction of a Time Traveler and is listed as having an

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anonymous author. The book is presented in a
scholarly approach and is very well written.
I bought it myself after author Mike Soft talked about it in his
book. I will dive into more of the
information outlined in TemporalRecon's book throughout this
presentation, but for now, the simplest way to look at Temporal
Recon is a possible ability is that he has extended knowledge
of many different aspects of theJohn Teeter mystery that many do

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not have. He is able to talk on a level of
teeter on the subjects of time trap and hypothetical
technologies, and he also talks in similar tone and connotation
that the Teeter post did as well.
Besides that, in a deep dive we will do into his book, there are
those that believe that TemporalRecon and the previously
mentioned Joseph Matheny are oneand the same person as well,

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which seems to be one of the favorite theories amongst the
community. Oliver Williams.
Oliver Williams is the owner of John teeter.com and is a literal
encyclopedia of knowledge on thesubject of Teeter.
Also is the leader in sales of John Teeter merchandise which
would give him all the reason inthe world to hoax.
Being a time traveler, his website was receiving a minimum

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of 10,000 clicks a day in 2013 and the revenue he made from
advertisement and sales of knickknacks could well support
his endeavors. Marlon Pullman There is one
other name that people will throw around as a possible
Teeter. That would be Marlon Pullman,
and in 2011 Pullman applied for a patent based on the schematic

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and drawings of Teeter's GE Manufactured Time Machines
manual that Teeter had posted atone point.
Something to know about Pullman is that he held the title of
Director of Governance, Risk andCompliance Products Strategy for
a Very reputable Software company, as well as offering
four textbooks on the subjects of Oracle Identity Management in

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LDAP or Light Directory Access Protocol, both of which are
systems used for categorizing, controlling, accessing, and
managing user identities in a variety of system softwares.
Cutting to the chase, the man issmart with the assumption by
skeptics that he is a crank and a stupid man trying to make a
dollar off of someone else's false schematics not being worth

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any weight. As if Pullman believed there was
some validity to these schematics, and seeing that he
he has a vast knowledge and professionalism in the world of
software and technology, it's safe to say that he submitted
for the patent because he believed it worked.
The abstract of the patent provided in Microsoft's book who
authored the John Teeter Legend reads quote A method for

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employing sinusoidal oscillations of electrical
bombardment on the surface of 1 CUR type singularity in close
proximity to a second Cur type singularity.
And such a method to take advantage of the lens effect to
simulate the effect of two pointmasses on nearly radial orbits
in 2 + 1 dimensional anti desitter space resulting in

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creation of circular time like geodesics.
Confirming to the van Stockholm under the van den Broeck
modification of the Alcubiere geometry permitting topology
change from 1 space like boundary to the other in
accordance with Grosche's theorem, which results in a
method for for the formation of global type geodetically

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complete space-time envelopes with closed time like curves.
OK, now the fun part. Let's break this down with a few
definitions of key terms. Sinusoidal is the term defining
the form of a sine wave common in many forms of mathematics and
commonly used in the measurements of oscillations or
the movement back and forward ata regular speed.

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Have you ever seen a heart rate monitor?
The lines on the green colored screen in a hospital room show a
line representing the rate of the heartbeat in the form of a
line that curves up and down. This is an oscillation in the
form of that line is a sinusoidal oscillation.
A curve type singularity is the defining term of the

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gravitational singularity causing the black hole when the
next key term to follow is the lens stirring effect which
represents the act of dragging or how a body's mass affects the
surrounding space-time and its gravitational force.
This is what you see when you see a depiction of a grid like
pattern and a sphere moving around in a circular simulating

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rotation of a planet in space. This is called frame dragging.
The next defined term we need tounderstand are what he refers to
as anti desider space, which is essentially spaced between two
gravitational forces or coordinate patches that stands
as a systematically constant space of time.
In the Vegas sense. This is a stack of space-time

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discs each representing space-time at a specific point.
When combining these first 3 concepts that I have outlined
you get what is referred to as the Van Stockton dust which is
literal dust that orbits in a vacuum.
Think black hole which generatesA gravitational field on an axis
of symmetry in the shape of a circle.

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Immediately we are followed by the mention of how the Van
Stockton reference on the frame Dragon being caused by the sine
waves given off of the oscillation of gravitational
forces from the twin black holes, causing a modification to
the Alcubiere geometry which is referenced to the Alcubiere Dr.
concept proposing the effects ofsuch acts on space-time in the

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vacuum of space. This would ultimately change the
shape of the topography on the gravitational grid seen in many
concepts of space-time effects, such as the examples that I have
provided. This would then result in the
next key term mentioned, Gorosh's theorem, which is if
theory referencing the shape of the effect on space-time and how

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to properly dust for the narrowing and curvature of set
space-time. This altogether creates a gold
type pocket of space for the safe travel of space by way of
the use of two synchronized black holes.
I know that was a lot of big terms, but I hope that helps.
On the surface this sounds like a very smart man who understands

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theoretical physics, but in reality these steps outlined in
his patent requests were literally early stolen directly
from POST made by Teeter himself.
None of these theories at the time were proven and still are
not to this day. The physics and the math are all
there and bearing any inputted data that we have not yet
identified in the decades of physics we have outlined so far.

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These should hold up well and eventually be proven one day.
Now as a side note, I do want tojust take a quick second to
mention the difference between atheory and a hypothesis.
A hypothesis is when somebody says, hey, I think that this is
the way something works. A theory is when there is a ton
of evidence behind something that leads the scientific

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community to believe that this is true.
They just don't have the exact pieces that they need to prove
it. So going back to some of the old
episodes of the Infinite rabbit hole, I just want to mention
things like the stone date theory and the aquatic 8 theory.
Those are actually not theories.Those are hypothesis.

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It should be mentioned as the aquatic ape hypothesis and the
stoned ape hypothesis, but the term theory has been added by
people who do not quite understand the definitions of
that term to create a more catchy title, if you will.
But really they're just hypothesis.
Now, these that we just talked about here in this section,

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these are theories. There is a lot of really,
really, really good evidence behind them and one day we are
expected for them to be proven to be true.
Now back to John Teeter. Ultimately the story of Pullman
has a tragic ending. On October 12th, 2013 he pleaded
guilty to attempted second degree assault, unlawful
possession of the drugs ecstasy and ketamine, as well as

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drugging and abusing multiple women.
There are many flaws in the theory of Pullman being the real
Teeter, enough for me to not list him in the quote UN quote
possibilities section we just covered.
Eventually a musical test would be given to him by a Pamela
Moore, who we will talk about later in this presentation, that
would eliminate him as Teeter. Pullman would also actively

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state he was not John Teeter andnever claimed to be.
The two men thought differently,wrote their senses with
different dialects or patterns, specialized in different and
varying fields of science and technology as well.
Pullman was good at copying and pasting smart words from
Teeter's post, but never could explain them in layman's terms
for the average person. He was smart.

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He wrote a lot of good code and technological properties for the
company he worked for, Oracle, but his expertise and software
code and tech does not translateto theoretical physics.
He was a man who knew very elementary info on these topics
and saw a way to patent something he desperately wanted
to be real due to fandom. Honestly I could have skipped

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this entire part in the story ofJohn Teeter, but I saw it was an
incredible opportunity to explain the theoretical physics
outlined by Teeter in his post to prove that even though many
believe that he was a fraud and a hoaxer, John Teeter was an
extreme really smart and well educated man and topics that
were not anywhere near common knowledge even for the physicist
of 1998 to 2001. The General Electric C204

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gravity distortion unit. Jon Teeter mentions in one post
that there were quote about 10 units like mine C204 and 20
larger units known as the C206. The General Electric C204
gravity distortion unit was manufactured in the year 2034
and was roughly the size of a footlocker and weighed

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approximately £500. In a post from January 27th
2001, Teeter describes his machine further quote a
stationary mass temporal displacement unit manufactured
by General Electric. The unit is powered by two top
spin dual positive singularitiesthat produce a standard offset
tippler sinusoid. The anonymous author of the book

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Conviction of a Time Traveller does a nice job at listing the
major components described in various Teeter post.
One magnetic housing for two micro singularities, 2 in the
electron ejection manifold to hold the gravity in mass for
micro singularities. 3A cooling and X-ray venting system, 4
gravity sensors, 54 cesium atomic clocks and six three

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computer units. One particular necessity for the
use of the C204 and C206 was that there was a need for a
vessel to be used in order to allow for the safe travel a
person through time and world lines.
Teeter famously used a 1967 Chevrolet to travel to 1975 as

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it was meant to not draw attention and blend in with
other vehicles on the road at the time.
Then when he travelled to the year 2000 he sold the Chevy and
purchased what he only describesas an all-wheel drive vehicle to
get back home in. This would of course mean that
there is a 1967 Chevy somewhere in the United States from a
completely different world line and the person who owns it no

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doubt has a lot of pride in their beloved Chevy, but most
likely has zero clue that it wasnot made in the reality that it
is currently in. The way it would work is that
instead of driving at a certain speed like in the Back to the
Future series, the vehicle that held the C204 would have to
remain still during the time traveling process.

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As explained in the previous section, during Operation 2,
singularities would create 2 separate event horizons that
would intersect and create the pathway needed to travel among
world lines. An event horizon referring to
the boundary around a black holethat stands as a border where no
light could ever escape from. There are many mentions of this

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and it's gravitational effects on time distortion in Einstein's
theory of general relativity. As soon as the event horizons
reveal themselves around the singularity or black holes in
the C204, these singularities then become what are known as
curve singularities, which are rotating black holes theorized
to be created by the collapsing and rotation of stars.

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These are easily identified by the presence of the ergosphere
and phenomenon of frame draggingor visual distortions created by
the gravity pole. Roy C Kerr was a New Zealand
born mathematician that discovered there was multiple
types of black holes or singularities.
The title of a Kerr black hole or singularity was adopted for

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the ones that Kerr himself discovered which rotated and
created a strange ring like effect now known as an event
horizon, unlike the then standard stationary ones.
In addition, the area between the event horizon was then
referred to as an ergosphere. It is from the event horizon
that the. 204 would find the power and capability to travel

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for its intended purpose by overlapping the ergospheres,
which creates A sinusoid or sinewave shape of gravitational
fluctuation and magnification between the two singularities.
There is an absolutely beautifulpicture on the Internet that was
provided by Teeter as proved to this effect on a handheld laser
to allow the laser to be seen bythe naked eye.

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You can see Teeter blowing smokefrom a cigar into the pathway of
the laser while seated in the 1967 Chevy.
The technology is best seen in the patch of the 177th Temporal
Recon Unit, where you can clearly see two paths of matter
represented by parallel black lines, with one of them narrowly
escaping the Oval representing the singularity and its

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surrounding gravitational field,and another being engulfed into
the singularity itself. The technology used in these
world line travels was commonly referred to by John Teeter as
gravitational distortion machines, rather than the common
term used by enthusiasts, time machine.
In fact, whenever Teeter used the term time machine, he would
always put quotations around it in order to emphasize the

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difference. He would explain multiple times
that it wasn't necessarily time travel by the standard
definition, as it was gravitational manipulation that
allowed him to travel to and from world lines and through
their individual time flows. Piloting Another popular
question that was often asked was what did it feel or look
like when traveling through time?

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This, Teeter explained, began with the machine warming up to
100% ready, which took a bit of time.
When ready, which was signaled by an audible alarm and small
lights, the pilot would experience about two GS worth of
force on his or her body. When looking out of the window
of the Chevy, Teeter explained that it looked as if the car was
accelerating with great speeds. This was an illusion, of course,

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as the car in the C204 did not move during the act of travel.
Rather, it was the image of timebeing bent around the car that
made it look as if it were moving fast when the machine was
at full power and in the processof transversing world lines and
time, the affected area would bedrowned in a temporal flood of
ultraviolet light. This is why the pilot was given

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a pair of sunglasses or goggles to wear during transport.
But there were some pilots that chose to close their eyes during
transportation instead of using the provided eye, where after
the period of ultraviolet light,the immediate area was bathed in
darkness for the remainder of the flight.
There was also a bottle of oxygen provided with every
flight. Although the act of
gravitational displacement did trap oxygen in the air with the

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pilot, it often was not enough to safely travel for the length
of the flight would take. In the case of John Teeter being
transported to year 1975, a travel of 61 years, the one way
trip would take six hours based on the C20 fours 10 year per
hour speed. These longer trips often left
the pilot needing additional ways to breathe.

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Once all of the oxygen trapped by the displacement unit was
used up. This became an emergency
component of travel as even the short flights could have
something go wrong. From an observer's point of
view, the take off and return ofthe pilot in the machine happens
fairly seamlessly. The gravitational displacement
unit creates A distortion aroundthe car due to the manipulation

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of gravity by the dual singularities.
This would commonly look like small heat distortions mixed
with small electrostatic shock discharges.
But then it would fade and all that would be left is the
machine and the pilot, which came back from the trip to a
split second before they even left.
This would be seen as seamless and as if the pilot never left

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to those that watched it happen.The only real giveaway from the
outside looking in that anythinghappened is that the crown where
the displacement unit returned from would be present as the
unit commonly brought about an inch of ground with it when it
left due to gravitational field size.
Tier had used a term more than once in his post and replies
that deserves a bit more explanation.

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The term we are talking about isdivergence.
In the layman's definition, to diverge is to go another
direction from a standard path or direction.
You can literally apply this definition to the term of
divergent, used commonly by Teeter as a way to measure 1's
world lines difference in comparison to his.
Own world line. This is an important value to a

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hypothetical time traveler as itwould be a value assigned to a
separate world lines difference that Teeter had embarked from.
Due to changes being made at every single intersection of
decision or happenstance made inthe history of all the world
lines in existence, there are bound to be some that are just
too different to even be eligible to visit.

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This of course could be deadly if a time traveler were to
travel to an earth that was 90% carbon monoxide or to a section
in space that no longer or neverhoused the earth at all.
So Teeter explains that in orderto visit a world line with the
possibility of having what it was he was looking for, he
needed to stay in worlds that held a divergent value as close

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to 0 as possible. Divergent was also used for his
explanation of how the future that he lives in may not be the
future that we live in. Just because Russia set off
nuclear weapons in Washington DCand Jacksonville in his world
line does not mean that they will in our world line.
Many skeptics saw this as a far too easy answer for a hoaxer to

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get out of their false predictions, but this has a ton
of real implications to issues that a time traveller would have
if his technology ever did or does exist.
As we will discuss slightly later in this chapter, Divergent
was a value that was monitored in The Time Machine that Teeter
used to travel to different points in other world lines.

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As the anonymous author of the book Conviction of a Time
Traveler, the first credible investigation of John Teeter
explains. Quote Before activating the
machine and embarking on his trip through time, the operator
must calibrate the C204 to the local gravity.
This local gravity is recorded by the machine and while the
machine is activated it continues to measure the local

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gravity in pulses. While the machine is engaged and
the traveller is travelling through time, if a major change
in the gravity signature at the site takes place, the machine
then backtracks to a time when the distortion in the gravity
signature did not exist. Teeter would explain that due to
the problem with divergent values, regulation was made to
limit travel through time or world lines to a maximum of 60

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years. Anything after that was
considered to be too dangerous due to the high probability of
never finding a suitable world line to visit.
This was questioned by more thanone keen eyed researcher
throughout the last few decades as it is well known that Teeter
claimed to have come from the year 2036 and traveled to the
year 1975. This would be a total of 61

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years. There was never any mention as
to why he was able to do this orwhat the divergent level was
when he arrived in the year 1975.
But when he was on his way back after acquiring the IBM 51 100.
He did stop in the year 2000 fora personal task that allowed him
to mingle among the chat rooms and message boards of the
Internet of the time. Where he claimed that the world

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line and time that he was in held a 2.5 divergent value to
his own world line. Which if you think about it,
creates a rather large gap for potential differences between
our world line and his. But of course this was also
discussed by Teeter and is mostly those that are just
discovering his mystery that look at this as a possible flaw
in the story. The multiple world theory

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created a plethora of of different issues for the study
of time travel or gravitational manipulation.
It was the exact issue of Divergent that was discovered
during the first Test of the C204 prototype which became
apparent when they sent the machine on its first Test flight
and it never returned to the testing location.
The initial thoughts were that it was lost and never coming
back until the machine was discovered a few miles away and

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destroyed by what looked to be falling damage from a high
altitude. This sent scientists involved
into a frenzy of theories on what could have gone wrong, but
the answer was simple. The machine that they were
testing was a type of time machine, not a space machine.
It would travel through world lines in the exact location it
was at when it began its test flight.

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But the problem is that the Earth is a body that moves
through space, so due to its orbit which chases the sun,
which is on its own long orbit around the Milky Way and through
universal expansion. When The Time Machine came back,
it went to the exact location space that it left from, which
was then in the sky a few miles.Teeter explains that the hardest

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part of the future scientists tofigure out wasn't the concept of
traveling time using the dual singularity model we discussed,
but rather it was the issue of plotting a safe course to a
specific location in time space.The answer to this problem was
the invention of the variable gravity lock, or VGL, which was
a component that took multiple reoccurring snapshots of its

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surrounding gravitational fields.
By doing this, the machine couldmake my new adjustments to its
physical location to ensure thatit traveled with the Earth and
appeared where it was when it left on any world line.
The secondary capability that used the exact same technology
in the VGL was the ability to recognize slight changes in
gravity while traveling through world lines.

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When gravitational difference between the targeted world line
and its home world line was too far off of the variance allowed,
it would automatically kick you back to the last accepted world
line with an allowed amount of gravitational allowance to
prevent you from appearing in a brick wall or in an ocean that
was created on a world line thatvaries greatly from or even
worse, in space. When the VGL detected a

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gravitational difference outsideof its allowed values and
returned you to a whirl line with an allowed value, you were
then able to recalibrate to a new targeted whirl line and
repeat the process. This process was referred to by
Teeter as the process of backtracking.
Possible Origins One thing that has been brought up on multiple
occasions by multiple sources onmultiple platforms is that the

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John Teeter story has many parallels with many different
sources of pop culture. The first of which is the
connection to the movie series Back to the Future, where The
Time Machine being used is a De Lorean DMC12A car that I would
personally love to own one day for the simple fact that is such
a popular model among time travel enthusiasts.
Whereas in the John Teeter legend, Teeter mentions using a

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1967 Chevrolet as his vessel of traveling through timestreams,
the connection here is pretty much limited to the fact that
the vessel being used for the act of time travel is a car.
But many people point to this fact that the real Teeter,
whoever they may be, use this asan influence in his decision on
choosing a machine to travel in.The next example of possible

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influences on the story came directly from Mike Saab's book
who authored The John Teeter Legend, in which he shows a
shocking connection between the Teeter post and the 1959 post
Nuclear Apocalyptic novel by PatFrank, Alas Babylon, published
at the height of the Cold War. Pat Frank's historical piece of
work bears many parallels including the setting being in

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the state of Florida, the use ofthe fateful day being referred
to as H Day, where Teeter uses the term end day.
And as referenced in response ona post in May 1st, 2001, Teeter
outlines another striking similarity in reference to how
his family survived the after effects of a struggling
population in a nuclear fallout.Florida quote.

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The family work we did was picking, sorting, and shipping
oranges by sailboat up and down the coast of Florida.
We were expected to produce a certain amount for the community
and a certain amount for other communities as agreed to by our
CLC. In exchange, we received power,
water, a certain amount of food,and other necessities that were
produced inside of our community.

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This statement also strikes parallels to the famous book as
the protagonist, Randy Bragg, lived on a citrus farm in
Florida and inspired his friendsand community to launch a
seagoing vessel in search of preserving salts from a nearby
island. There are also a lot of
references to community engagement in response to the
catastrophe in the form of sharing goods and services that

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are also echoed in many teeter responses.
As a side note, I found this to be extremely interesting and
wanted to find out more for myself, so I headed over to
Amazon and purchased a copy of the paperback for a little over
$7.00 thanks to the Black Fridaysale going on at the time.
And let me mention this was a great piece of literature and

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Microsoft was 100% correct in drawing a few shocking
similarities between Teeter's story and this book.
But my argument here is that thesimilarities seem to be more or
less common thought in similar situations in the state of
Florida, and in the case that you hold residents near the
water. A common form of transportation
without the use of vehicles thatbecame useless from the nuclear

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electromagnetic pulse would be to use sailboats as free energy
forms of transportation. And the connection between
Oranges and the two stories should come to no shock.
At all. Trust me, I.
Lived in Florida from the ages of 15 to 24 and I could safely
say that the citrus plants grow there and that this would not be
a fact worth 9. The authenticity of the teeter
story in my mind. Great book none the less though.

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Then there is the connection to the storyline used in the
Dungeons and Dragons like game Gerps Underworld.
Specifically added in the forum of a variant campaign by the
username Spear Weasel in the early 90s in which the story
involves chaos ensuing in the year 2004 which results in
martial law and the suspension of the US Constitution.

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In the years 2005 to 2007 the second civil war broke out
killing 2 million civilians. And in 2015 the Third World War
with major team UPS between Japan and Russia as well as
China and the US resulted in theusage of small nuclear strikes
on Alaska, Europe and China. And the John Teeter story civil
unrest begins at the end of the presidential election in the US

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in 2004, with the resulting Second Civil War breaking out in
2005. The year and the war are the
same in both sources. The end year is different.
Where Tier doesn't necessarily ever directly mentioned an end
to civil war, he does mention how it slowly fused into the
third short lived World War 2015, which is the same year

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that is mentioned as the genesisof the World War 3IN Spear
Weasel's variant campaign of Group's Cyber World Timeline.
There is a timeline in The Legend of John Teeter that once
known makes a lot of the posts and mentions of certain events
understandable and even more digestible once you become
comfortable with the idea of there being 2 separate Teeters

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visiting this timeline who communicated with the public on
the web. 1975 This is the year that Teeter is going to gain
control of the IBM 5100 personalcomputer that is owned by one of
his family members who would later in Teeter's post turn out
to be his grandfather. In order to bring back to the
year 2036 to eliminate the time out of the Unix system by using

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the emulation capabilities of the computer's BASIC and APL
code systems. From here he jumps to the year
2019. 98 John Teeter is born. When Teeter arrives here his job
retrieving the IBM 5100 is complete.
The newborn John Teeter only hasto survive to the year 2036 to
allow the time flow to stay as consistent as possible with very

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little variation. This is when the two faxes were
sent to Coast to Coast AM radio show with Art Bell.
More on this very soon. No worries.
Within the two faxes, a man claiming to be John Teeter
mentions the invention of time travel in the year 2034 and the
fallout of Y2K 2000. Teeter stops in the year 2000 on

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his way back to 2036 from his time in 1975 where he obtained
the IBM 5100 computer. This is when he he creates his
usernames and website to discusshis travels and paranormal and
time travel enthusiasts websites.
He stops here specifically to gather artifacts needed before
finishing his home stretch back to his home year in 2036, 2011.

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This is the year that Teeter is drafted into the Civil War and
joins the Fighting Diamondbacks militia in Florida.
There is no time travel aspect to this year, but many get
caught up in this year and confused since Teeter mentions
it multiple times in various posts and responses. 2015 Again,
there is no time travel aspect to this year as well.

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This is the beginning of the brief World War Three in the
year of the nuclear attacks thattook place in Jacksonville, FL
and Washington DC that caused the country to break up into
five separate regions with five separate presidents with the new
capital of the US moving to Omaha, NE 2036 A.
During the first mention of 2036, Teeter is set back to time

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to retrieve the IBM 5100 from the year 1975 5 for its various
debugging capabilities to clear issues with programming and
systems used in the future. 2036B Teeter succeeds in his
retrieval of the IBM 5100 and returns safely back to the year
2036. Now there is an alternative

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theory on the timeline which does not involve 2 John Teeters.
This would be a timeline that follows the path from 2036 to
1975 to retrieve the IBM 5100 and promise his grandfather that
by giving him the computer he would ensure his children's
safety to future catastrophes. Of course, this would turn out
to be Teeter's mother or father as well as his aunts and or

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uncles. Teeter and his grandfather would
travel to Rochester, MN where the IBM 5100 was being
manufactured before returning toFlorida.
The travel world lines again from 1975 to 1998 where he would
stop for a period of time to allow the divergent to decrease
and allow for a more suitable time for travel to reveal
itself. This would also be when the

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first fax is sent to Coast to Coast AM and he would decide
that he was to stop in the year 2000 to help his family with
their post Y2K issues. Again, more on Coast to Coast AM
coming up very soon from 1998 to2000, where he would meet with
his family and explain to them the future that lies is in front
of them, fulfilling the promise made to his grandfather, but was

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surprised to see that there was no major Y2K event as there was
in his world line in 2001. He would travel back to 1998 in
order to once again wait for an opportunity to return to a world
line as close to his original aspossible.
While in his second trip to 1998, Teeter would then author
another fax to the Coast to Coast AM radio show without

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mention of Y2K as he discovered that the catastrophe of a flash
Global free raising never occurred in the world lines that
shared a low divergent rating with the 1 he was in.
Side note, it was made clear that Tyre understood that he
would never be able to return tohis original world line.
With the near infinite world lines in existence, the
probability of finding a way back to his would never happen,

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but he could find one that had aclose enough divergent rating
that it would feel like he made it back to his home world line.
From 1998 he would travel back to a world line close enough to
his original for him to feel like he was back at home.
But many people will point to the website
johnteeterfoundation.com as proof that the two Teeter
storyline is the real one out ofthe two.

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Since the website was set up by the family lawyer and clearly
mentions to John Teeters, each with their own tables, dates and
what seems to be divergent ratings.
Now that we have that cleared up, we can safely talk about how
important the Coast to Coast AM radio show was to the unfolding
of the John Teeter legend. In 1998, Coast to Coast AM

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received 2 faxes from a man by the name of John Teeter who
claimed to have been a time traveler from the year 2036.
I believe the best way to discuss the contents of these
lengthy faxes is to read them out in their completion.
The first fax was sent on July 29th, 1998 and reads quote.
Dear Art, I had to send a fax when I heard other time

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travelers calling from any time beyond 2500 AD.
Please let me explain time travel was.
Invented in 2034, the breakthrough of successful
research on fusion reactors allowed scientists at CERN to
create the world's first singularity powered time
machine. The basic concept involves
rotating the singularity within a magnetic field.

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By altering the speed and direction of the rotation, you
can travel both forward and backwards in time.
Time itself can be understood interms of connected lines.
When you travel back in time, you travel along your original
timeline. When you travel off of the
Singularity Engine, a new timeline is created because you
and your time machine are now there.

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In other words, a new universe is created.
To return to the original trajectory, you must travel back
a fraction of a second and immediately restart the engine
without turning it off. Some interesting results of this
are one, you meet yourself. I have done so often, even
bringing a younger version of myself for certain things before
returning to my timeline. Two, you can alter the history

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of the new universe you have just created.
Most of the time the changes areimperceptible.
Sometimes I noticed non existentcar models are books released
late. The oldest was a skyscraper that
hadn't been built near one of myfavorite stores in New York.
It is interesting to note that when you time travel you have to
compensate for Earth's orbit. Since The Time Machine doesn't

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move, you have to adjust the engines to remain on the planet
when you turn it off. Unfortunately, it has also been
discovered that anyone who has travelled forward in time from
my 2036 encounters a barrier in the year 2564.
Anyone who has been there reported that nothing exists.
When the machine is off, you find yourself surrounded by

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darkness and silence. Now, most time travelers are
trying to figure out where the line went wrong by going back to
the past, creating a new universe, and moving forward to
see if the same thing occurs in 2564.
It seems that the line went wrong around the year 2000.
I am here now in this period to test some of my theories before
moving forward. Now, here is some future

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information you may want to know.
One, Y2K is a disaster. Many people die on highways when
they freeze to death while trying to reach a milder
climate. 2 The government tries to maintain power by
implementing martial law, but everything collapses when their
efforts to restore electricity fails. 3A power plant in Denver
is able to restart, but it is attacked by hundreds of

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thousands of people and destroyed.
This further convinces us that perhaps we shouldn't restore the
old system. 4 A few years later,a new system of government is
developed after the constitutionundergo some twists.
China takes back Taiwan. Israel wins the greatest battle
of their lives and Russia is covered in nuclear snow due to

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their reactors exploding. Art.
The reason I am here now is thatI believe a nuclear weapon
launched by Iraq in the Middle Eastern war with Israel may have
something to do with the damagedtimeline.
I will test that theory and get back to you.
Please pray that we discover whythere seems to be no apparent
future beyond 2564. We obviously never suffer

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through a winter as extreme as Teeter explains in this facts in
the wake of of Y2K, but we have already explained how timelines
work and how this could be different in each.
The second thing I would like topoint out is that the mention of
a missing skyscraper in New YorkCity.
Could this be in reference to the Twin towers in the 9/11
attack? If so, it would be a reference

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from the year 1998 now. For the second.
Fact, which is a bit smaller. I am a time traveler.
I have been in this world since April of this year and my plan
is to leave soon. Normally, time travelers do not
actively influence the timeline they visit.
However, this mission has been prolonged for a long time and I
have become attached to some of the people I have encountered

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here. For personal reasons, I have
decided to assist this timeline by sharing future information
with a few individuals, hoping that it may help their future.
I am contacting you for the samereason.
Unfortunately, there is no historical reference to your
program on by World Line. I believe you could change your
future by creating one now. Some of the information
presented in your program can bevaluable to researchers.

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I suggest selecting episodes that focus on military
technology and new theories of physics.
Transcribe these programs and keep them in a safe place.
I recommend a location in the Midwest.
I also urge you to reconsider your paranoia towards the
Russians. They are not preparing for war
with the average American citizen.
They are preparing for war with the United States government.

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In the end, they will save this country and the lives of
millions of Americans. I understand that my request may
be difficult to accept, so I will send the following once I
know you have received this fax,a few pages from the operations
manual of my time machine and a few colored photographs of my
vehicle. If you wish to contact me, I
will be happy to share with you the nature of time, the physics

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of time travel, and some of the events of the future.
There really is not much of importance in this fact other
than a few mentions of recommendations.
The only real eye opener is the mention of how the country of
Russia is not an enemy to the typical United States citizen
and how their quarrel is with the governing bodies.
He even mentions that Russia will free people of our

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tyrannical governments grasp, ultimately saving many lives.
Although there may not be much in the second facts, the
combination of the two being a part of the Coast to Coast AM
program was humongous for the story of John Teeter, as this
was by far one of the absolute most famous popular shows on the
airwaves in the late 90s. A radio show that was not only

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heard here in the US but found its way to many countries around
the world. But even more importantly, there
were a few different lines that people could call into on the
show. The most famous being the East
of the Rockies and West of the Rockies lines, with another
being for new callers and yet another being specifically set
aside for time travellers. So to say that the program was

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popular among time travellers and fanatics of the concept is
an understatement. Before moving on to the next
chapter, I think this is a greatplace to read off the transcript
from the YouTube video that I mentioned earlier that was
posted by the family lawyer Larry Huber, as it will make
much more sense now and will help explain the previously
outlined timeline of events which included two John Teeter's

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greetings. I am the man you know as John
Teeter. Correction, I am one of the men
you know as John. In 1999, I was the second to
arrive on the same world line asthe other man you know as John.
It was I who wrote the post November and January.
When I returned to 2001. I will write for the final time

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in. March, my mother will.
Release this message to you in November of 2009.
The other, John Teeter, wrote the post in December and
February. He too will write his final post
in March of 2001. As I write this now, the date is
March 22nd, 2009 and the divergent is 1.941.
This is not the first time I have been in your future.

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I was here before writing the first post in 2001.
I tried to warn you. I tried to wake you.
As time passes, I fear you will witness the transition from your
apathy independence to your children's fall into bondage.
I feel sorry for you. You will not know the peace and
freedom I will have when I return home in spite of my

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efforts. The war that gave that gift to
me may come to you much later toprove to you who I am.
A friend will corroborate the significance of the musical
group The B50 Twos. I'm sorry about the strife and
difficulty you have had these past years.
It was required, as I said, after 1975.
When I arrived in 1999, there was already another John there.

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The two of us devised a plan to return to separate oral lines.
The plan required that each of us travel to different time
periods between 1998 and 2009 and take measurements with our
displacement machine. We had to find a way to
communicate these measurements in a way that would last and
could be easily found later. Our first attempt was with the

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fax to Art Bell. I travelled to 1998 first and
left the first fax with Art. The other John traveled there
later and was able to find my fax.
He then left the second fax. As the plan is now progressing
we are able to use the Internet,the post we made and will make a
foundation. We will need to get home and
each month we will post the measurements we had made in

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various time periods on different world lines.
Every time someone posts about John Teeter after 2001, they
will become more permanent and easier for me or another John to
find. If the other John or even
another John ever arrives in your future trying to get home,
he will now see the numbers he needs in the posts.
If he were to hear this message,he will know what to do.

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The final measurements are on the website my mother's attorney
has overseen. This is the reason we made the
post. With your help they will last.
They are a signpost to other John's who are lost and need our
work to return home. For this I must thank all of you
177 Tempest Edex rerum time devour all things.

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For clarification, this is not apost that has BeenVerified as
coming from the Saint John Teeter in which the post on
various chat rooms and message boards appeared during the years
2000 and 2001. This is strictly Larry Haver
claiming to have produced this video letter for John Teeter,
Pamela and the Hoax Hunter. Pamela Moore is known as the one

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person who John Teeter had a very close relationship with
during his spree of postings on forums.
Pamela would frequent both the Post to Post and Time Travel
Institute's message boards, where their conversations have
been archived by many enthusiasts and preserved.
She was also one of the select few that communicated with John
via instant messenger and was the one person on record who

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sustained the lengthiest conversation recorded with
Teeter's username. During the connection, Pamela
was given a specific song by Teeter that she could use to
determine if anyone claiming to be Teeter was really him or not.
She has never released the titleof the song and claims to be
keeping it to herself until she hears it from someone claiming

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to be Teeter himself. She also has the only piece of
physical evidence ever provided by Teeter in the form of a label
from an IBM 5110. It arrived in a package with no
return address, but had a postage from the city of
Orlando, FL. Many people will mention that
the label the IBM 5110 came fromthe 1 he secured in 1975, but

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the truth is that he never mentioned that it was from the
particular one. It also came from the 5110, not
from a 5100. It is possible it is, says
Moore, but it wasn't what you requested when he asked what he
could send to her as a gift. The following quote comes from a
conversation between Pamela Moore and the famous debunker
known as the Hoax Hunter. First of all, the label from the

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IBM. It is not necessarily the label
from the IBM. And he went after.
He asked me what I would like from him and I told him I want
something that traveled through the black hole with him, even if
it was a small piece of paper. He chose to send me this label.
It was never meant to prove Johnwas a time traveler.
He never mentioned that it came from the computer he was
supposed to get. It was simply an item that went

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through the black hole with him.That's it.
And if this was true, then the very label itself was made-up of
atoms from another Whirl line back then.
That was very exciting to me. Later on, she would share a
piece of label with a man by thename of Phil Fjord, who would
sell the piece successfully on eBay in 2015 for a sum of
$10,000. The Hoax Hunter is exactly what

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his name entails. According to author Mike Soft,
he is a man who targets hoaxes and creates compelling pieces of
work against what he believes tobe false claims.
One such claim that he battled was the entirety of the John
Teeter story. The Hoax Hunter was the one to
break the news about the John Teeter Foundation PO Box, which
was once under the ownership of Larry Haver's brother and was

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gone to great lengths to prove that 88 of the names that
interacted with Teeter on various websites were planted by
Teeter himself. And we're not actual people.
He first found it strange that as soon as someone would post a
question on these websites, it would be mere minutes before a
very thought out and detailed response would be posted from
the username of Teeters. This could only be possible

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under 2 circumstances. Teeter was watching all website
boards at the same time at all times, or he was ready for the
question, as in that he was the one posting the question under
fake names. The hoax hunter discovered that
these 88 names disappeared from the Internet's Google results
once Teeter did, and that there was very little, if any activity
outside of the message boards that Teeter frequented by any of

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these 88 usernames. It is his actual prediction that
there are only 13 usernames thatcan say for certain that we're
not Teeter and have healthy histories on the Internet before
and after the time frame. They also were frequently
posting on non time travel websites which showed that they
were human beings that were alsointerested in more than just one

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subject, as normal humans are. This I believe is extremely good
detective work by the host hunter.
But is it the final answer? Further Info On the surface, the
epic that is the John Teeter story looks like a blatant fraud
and easily debunked as the product of a hoaxer.
But if you have just a little bit of extended knowledge on a

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few key subjects, it is easy to see that this man was an
absolutely brilliant person by today's standards and was Privy
to information that was not readily available in the years
of 2000 and 2001. And we are just seeing some of
the deeper info buried in his post coming to fruition in
recent times, with even more of his explanations or predictions

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looking like they are also readyto become reality.
As I do with all of my research,I have left bits of information
out that the original researcheror author would get 100% of the
credit for. And in the case of John Teeter,
I highly recommend the book Conviction of a Time Traveler by
an anonymous author. Mike Solve, the author of the
book who authored the John Teeter legend, claims to have

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found out who this anonymous author is and even interviewed
them. Their pseudonym was Temporal
Recon as we had talked about before, but this book by this
anonymous author is truly amazing and one of the few books
I have even given a five star rating to.
In this book they outline a few deep dives into the reason why
Russia naked America and what the reasoning behind the use of

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the atomic clocks in the C204 actually are.
Hint, it's not for time keeping.The matter of the book can get
really technical, but the authordoes it in a slow and detailed
way that ensures you follow along to what he is trying to
explain as well as uses many high level sources for his
arguments and evidence. The way that this author
approaches some of the obvious and not so obvious points in the

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John Teeter legend is incredible.
One example was how in chapter 23 dives into the question why
did John Teeter mention anythingabout the IBM 5100 in the chat
rooms? It is a great question.
His story is incredible as it isand has many believable parts.
Why give up critical informationabout a crucial piece of
technology? This is a question that I have

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not seen pop up in any of my other sources for my research
into this topic yet. It seems like a very elementary
and simple yet important question to ask.
This anonymous author believes that Teeter simply did this to
plant a critical piece of information in the public, but
not so public view for the near future scientists to have
immediate access to in the meantime, saving 10s of years of

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research into possible life and infrastructure saving options.
Especially since the 5100 was not advertised to have such in
which capabilities or that it lacked an internal clock.
It truly is a brilliant thought when you think about the
potential amount of time it could have taken for an engineer
or scientist from the future to discover the need for this
specific device. This simple task was even more

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impressive when he explains thatthe production of the 5100 was
made obsolete a mere three yearslater in 1978 when IBM released
the 5110 with absolutely none ofthe important capabilities that
engineers from the future would need in order to save countless
lives. This, he claims, would be the
reason why he would have to travel the 1975 to get his hands

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on a 5100 instead of trying to go back to a closer date and
find one from a collector or in some unknown storage facility
somewhere. In 1975, he was able to not only
have access to the time that thecomputer was in production and
readily available for the most part, but he also was able to
enlist the assistance of his grandfather, who had immediate

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capabilities to obtain 1. So again, who was John Teeter,
the same anonymous author that we have been talking about?
This entire presentation had onemore very important discovery up
his sleeve at the end of the second section in his book
Conviction of a Time Traveller. This was the possible or even
probable identity of Teeters grandfather, a man by the name

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of Philip Donald Estrich, who led another 11 computer
engineers in the creation and manufacturing of the IBM 5100
personal computer in the mid early 1970s.
Looking further into Estridge history, we find a few other
striking similarities. Estridge was born in
Jacksonville, FL, a common city mentioned in the legend of John
Teeter and on more than one occasion by himself.

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He also attended the University of Florida, another prominent
feature in the future details provided by Teeter as a hub of
post nuclear civilization. He would graduate from the
University of Florida in 1959 with a degree in Electrical
Engineering and would go on to be contracted for intense work
by the US Army, NASA, and of course IBM, as well as being

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offered a multi $1,000,000 position by Apple CEO Steve Jobs
at one point in his professionallife.
And even deeper layers of the story.
Essentially, with the question asked earlier, why go back to
1975 instead of making a shortertrip to a closer year?
Philip Donald Estridge and his wife Mary Ann were killed in the
crash of Delta Airlines flight 191 in Dallas, Fort Worth in

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August of 1985. Although this doesn't answer why
he didn't go to any of the time between 75 and 85, when combined
with a possible answer earlier, the reason to jump to 1975
becomes clear. But then again, many of the
events that Teeter had claimed what happened seem or seemed to
have happened years later than it did in Teeter's world line.

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Could Estridge have passed earlier in Teeter's world line
and maybe that is why he went sofar back?
Or could it have been a simple need for as much time as
possible in case it became difficult to find the machine or
find a world line to go back with a small enough deviation?
Skeptics and the Flaws they findThere are a ton of reasons why

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someone would believe that the legend of John Teeter holds
weight and is a true account of an actual time traveller.
But there are some flaws that skeptics cling to in their
defense of their opinions of John Teeter being a hoaxer.
The two big points or mispredictions that skeptics
cling to are the failed arrival of the wars that he talked about
both the Second American Civil War and World War 3, well as one

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other that was not war related and that was the 2004 Olympic
Games would be the last in the world's history.
The reality is that all three ofthese events all stem from one
event and whether or not it comes to fruition in tears 2004
the country was beginning to fall apart due to the outcome of
the presidential election and the resulting governing of the

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administration. In 2005, the Second American
Civil War moves into a reality and is due to this event in the
warring of the Middle East. And growing strains between
Russia and European countries that the 2008 Olympics never
comes to fruition As mentioned in Teeter's post from January
29th, 2001 quote, as a result ofthe many conflicts, there are no

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official Olympics after 2004. Then in 2015, World War three
begins in response to the nuclear warheads used against
China, various areas of Europe and the United States by Russia.
These are all separated by skeptics as separate events, but
the reality is that it all stemsfrom the presidential election,
which we are never told the outcome of by teeter.

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But there is a very good deduction made in who the
particular president could be that was the driving force
between the cities and rural areas of the country.
And the anonymous author's book Conviction of a Time Traveller
that I will not talk about here as this was some truly
impressive work and this author should have full credit.
Just keep in mind that this bookwas written in 2010 and there

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have been multiple that have happened since that I believe
strengthens his opinion he makesnear the end of the book.
But even before that there was an increase in restrictions on
the rights of American citizens,leaving the country upset before
the election even takes place. So none of this would happen if
there was peace in America priorto the end of the 2004 election.

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Of course there were tensions between Russia and Germany that
were discussed, but some would say that there is plenty of
evidence in Tears post to show that this would not have been an
issue if the conflict in the Middle East didn't take place.
So the true origin event that never happened in our world line
in comparison to Teeters may have been whatever truly
happened in the Middle East prior to 2004.

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We have heavily discussed the concept of worldwide deviation
ratings. The rating between ours and
Teeters was mentioned to be 2.5%.
Looking at all of the differences that there could
potentially be an infinite amount of world wines.
Why would it be so hard to believe that whatever this event
in the Middle East was, it neveroccurred to kick off these
particular events mentioned by Teeter, Or at least not yet?

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But what if the event that sets off the specific chain of events
that we just went over wasn't the conflict in the Middle East?
There were many different posts that one could look through for
clues to what may have actually happened, and one possibility
did happen on our rural line. But it would seem that it
happens later than it did in Teeters and hadn't happened yet
when he was here in the years 2000 and 2001.

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And one of the facts is sent to the Costco Post AM radio show.
There was mention of a skyscraper absent in the New
York City skyline. Quote.
You can alter history in the universe that you have just
created. Most of the time the changes are
subtle. The oldest one was a skyscraper
that don't exist in New York City.
It is difficult to say whether or not he meant this statement

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as a nod to his own burl line orthe one that he was in in the
year 1998. But the anonymous author of the
book Conviction of a Time Traveller makes yet another
impressive conclusion. And that the building he was
talking about most likely had toeither be the Empire State
Building or the World Trade Center.
His deduction made by the fact that you could go to anyone in
almost the entire world and ask them to name a skyscraper in New

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York City or identify a silhouette of 1 and many would
point to the Empire State Building as their answer.
It is extremely recognizable. But since our World Lines
terrorist attack in September 11th, 2001, the World Trade
Center's Twin Towers has become the the most recognizable symbol
that is no longer present in theNew York City skyline.

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Imagine if in teeters were aligned.
These behemoths are already gonein the year 1998.
We still do not know exactly when they were destroyed, but
the simple fact that they were still there in the spring 2001
when he went back in 1998 and sent his fax to Coast to Coast
AM with these exact words is a clue to a possible enormous

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piece of this complicated puzzle.
Then there was this post in February 25th in the year 2001
quote. None of the things I have said
will be a surprise. They were set in motion 1020
even 30 years ago. So we really do not have a
single clue how far behind Teeter's world line we could

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potentially be. This could stand as the solid
proof that we are doomed to repeat the same fate at Teeter's
timeline, but simply have not reached certain pivotal events
yet. And there is more evidence in
other postings as well when you look at them in connection with
the above statement about the skyscraper.
The next specific example comes in the form of John's second

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rule when discussing events withpeople on the message boards and
chat rooms. I have listed them all for
remembrance, but it is specifically the second rule
that we are most interested in for this part of the argument.
One, I will not disclose any information that will cause
someone to personally gain by its knowledge.
This means no stock or sports tips.

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Two, I will not disclose any detailed information that would
allow someone to avoid death by probability.
This means no earthquake or bombing information.
And three, I will not disclose any information that may
compromise any future actions byindividual people or threaten
their family and well-being. Our anonymous author once again

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points out that there is a specific mention of a bombing in
a time and country that never really had any experience with
bombings except for the February13th, 1993 bombing of the World
Trade Center carried out by Al Qaeda and the Oklahoma City
bombing by Timothy McVeigh on April 19th, 1995.
Even though we have a few examples of successful bombing

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attempts, our corner of the world has for the most part
remain safe from the threat of bombings in comparison to the
areas, especially the Middle East and select areas of Africa.
So why mention bombings in particular?
There is a chance that the anonymous author could be
looking too far at this particular example, but I can
see their point as well. For example, maybe Teeters twin

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towers were destroyed by a bomber and not by planes as ours
were. To him, this could be a very
important piece of information. Or it could.
Be a general description of a dangerous effect, especially
since the very rule that it is mentioned in is about not
disclosing certain details, which is what I personally
believe and is one of the very few things I would make a slight

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argument against the anonymous author with in another post in
this argument, a response postedby Teeter on November 4th, 2000,
where he makes a statement that hints at the slight differences
between the two worlds. Whoa.
I've also noticed little things like news events that happened
at different times, football games won by other teams, things

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like that. But why?
Why not just tell us of this seemingly important information
if in the end the score of the game may change anyway?
Well it seems that it all came down to John Teeter not wanting
to change our future. Believe it or not, he saw it
necessary for the United States to go through the 2nd Civil war
and the nuclear attacks by Russia as seen in these next two

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responses from February 12th 2001 and February 5th 2001
respectively. Quote the animal Kingdom is
alive and I'm sure it suffered but there are fewer people
infringing on the animals habitat.
Now nuclear war is a very undesirable thing but it is not
the end of the world. There are areas of the cities we
can't enter. The environment did suffer a

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great deal of damaged, but we are recovering.
Isn't Hiroshima A thriving city today?
The major physical effects included skin cancer,
infertility, infection and etcetera.
Almost everyone has some sort ofphysical remnant from the war.
And a second post quote. I think the war would be good
for you and your society. I don't want to stop it.

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Well, this subject captured my interests like very few other
subjects ever did. The amount of evidence that John
Teeter was actually a time traveler, or world blind
traveler if using Teeter's nomenclature, is astounding.
So this is where I will leave you.
This report is far from completeand there are many other aspects
of the John Teeter story to highlight and dissect, but I

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feel like the parts we did coverwere some of the more important
areas of the legend to understand.
The truth is that the John Teeter legend may never be
confirmed, but it is one of the few aspects of the unknown that
may one day prove to be true andI believe that this alone is one
of the most intriguing details of the story.
It could simply not be finished.John Teeter or whoever he may

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actually be may once again visitus or we may just catch up to
our own world lines John Teeter and be the ones sending him back
to the year 1975. Imagine that this line

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represents a time present 1985 to prior to this point in time.
Somewhere else to this 19 85 Fortunate to you, me and
Einstein. Funky reality for everyone else.

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