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October 21, 2025 69 mins

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Welcome to this new chapter of the podcast! In this special 50th episode, host Howie Chan interviews “The Godfather of Influence” himself, Dr. Robert Cialdini. He is  the globally renowned psychologist behind "Influence", the book that sold over 5 million copies worldwide,  and the man who made persuasion a science.

They delve into the process of influence, Dr. Cialdini's groundbreaking findings, and what it takes to get people to say yes, even before you present the offer.

Dr. Cialdini provides insights into his research and learning journey. He shares stories that led to his breakthroughs and others that changed everything. You'll learn how to influence and persuade yourself and others ethically and effectively.


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Episode Breakdown:

02:22 Dr. Cialdini's shocking and humbling history with Charlie Munger

07:04 The surprising discovery that got Dr. Cialdini started on "Influence"

11:50 Why Dr. Cialdini went undercover and what influenced his research

16:33 Focusing on unchanging human truths and “Small Bigs”

19:29 The backstory behind the 7th and newest principle, Unity

24:00 What happens to phony and manipulative brands

27:21 The power of pre-suasion and how Dr. Cialdini came up with the concept

35:00 How to use pre-suasion to maximize results

40:07 "Post-suasion": what comes after successful persuasion

46:05 Influencing yourself for habit creation and lasting change

48:00 One single sentence that can ready people for the change you want

52:20 No social proof? How to use future social proof in your business

55:50 The difference between ethical and unethical influence

1:00:30 Debunking a myth about influence that refuses to die

1:06:28 A letter to Dr. Robert Cialdini’s younger self


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