Episode Six - Chris: Gaming, Pop Culture, Memes, And Other Candid Musing - Ink & Bytes

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Colby (00:00):
Hello everybody, I just wanted to give a quick content
warning for this episode.
If you're sensitive to cursewords, some sensitive topics and
Jokes here and there, then Iwould say, maybe avoid this
episode.
I don't want to use the wordtrigger warning because I really
dislike that phrase, but thisis this is your trigger warning.

(00:22):
But if you're willing to stickaround, it was a really good
conversation.
A lot of jokes were had and theconversation is very chaotic,
but in a entertaining way.
I like to.
I like to say so Again, this isyour content warning.
This is your chance to dip outif you are uncomfortable with
what I mentioned.
But if you're still here,thanks for sticking around and

(00:43):
let's get into it.
Hello everybody, and welcomeback to the Inc In Bites podcast
.
Today Is another very specialepisode.
I have another guest on theshow.
They are a very smartindividual who is Educated in

(01:07):
many different aspects of popculture and video games.
I will now just pass over thetheoretical mic over to them to
allow them to introducethemselves again, because I
totally didn't just restart therecording or anything.

Chris (01:20):
Hello again.
Oh, sorry for the first time.
Sorry, my name is.
My name is Chris.
I am a, as you said,entrepreneur of pop culture and
various comics and manga andvideo games, and that's all a
lie.
I just don't do anything andI'm very socially inept.
But but, um yeah, I'm justliving, trying to kind of live

(01:47):
comfortably like everyone else.
You know, make a, make a decentamount to pay the rent and
various other debts.
Everyone has to pay you off intheir lives and, yeah, that's
pretty much it.

Colby (01:59):
Yeah, they paying, paying .
Making enough money to stayalive is becoming harder and
harder.
The years go on, but uh, yeah,oops, sorry, go ahead.
No, you good, if anybody haslistened to my previous podcast,
wait before this one was made.
I bless you, bless your soul,if you have.

(02:21):
Me and Chris had a very goodepisode before when we talked
about our time at school and thelore that occurred there.
We might, we might pull in someof those old stories again if
there's time, but just, it'sbeen a while since we chatted,
so it's gonna be really funepisode just to kind of catch up
a little bit, and it's gonna beMore of a comedic episode.
And if you really like popculture and gaming, you're in

(02:43):
the right place, because we'reboth nerds that do A lot of
gaming.
Speaking of which, because Iwas talking your discord, I seen
you playing hell diver, solet's just let's just let's just
talk about that real quick.
Let's talk about how this gamehas basically blown up the
internet.
Oh, man.

Chris (02:59):
So hell dive is oh.
So I had a friend that keepstext to me.
They kept text me saying, oh,get held, I was, get held, I was
.
It could be like ghost ofsheshima rates, like we we used
to do back there in the pandemic, and so I've been going against
it.
I've been going against it thatI found out that a target was

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selling a physical copy.
So I was like, oh, it's 40bucks, it's really cheap.
And I've been hearing a lot ofgood things, I've been seeing a
lot of memes on instagram andstuff.
So I decided to bite the bulletand get the game and, uh, so
I'm getting it.
Like I said before, I wasreally against it.
So I started playing like tworounds and I got exploded by a

(03:45):
big like orbital missile.
I had texted him.
I had texted him the uh, thevideo of Danny DeVito saying, oh
, my god, I get it.
And uh, yeah, that's been myexperience so far for like the
past hour or two.

Colby (04:01):
I will say that has been my experience for the past, like
13 that I put on that game Um,thankfully I managed to survive
the queues, but that that gamegreat.
You die most most of the timefrom your friends because
orbitals are crazy, but no, thatgame I, it's, it's.

(04:22):
We were going through a trendand I talked about this in one
of my earlier episodes.
We were going through a trendwhere double a games have kind
of been taking over triple agames, like we had boulders gate
3, which arguably is a triple agame, but for it's really kind
of still double a becausethey're kind of a double a
studio and you had A blanking onsome other ones.
But a lot of these Indie studiosare pumping out games that

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they're selling millions andbeing coming hits and hell
divers.
Is this crazy?
I?
I don't think I've played agame that has been Addicting and
enjoyable since cod, zombiesand sort of that wave-based like
horror shooter and it's just aridiculous game in all the right
reasons.
It's funny.
They're suffering from successcurrently because the servers

(05:04):
are blowing up and you play on aconsole, right, yeah, yeah,
have you had.

Chris (05:08):
Oh no, I, I, uh.
I played like two games and italready crashed on me.
That's how, how bad it's beengetting, oh gosh, yeah the so
connection was yeah there it's.

Colby (05:19):
Like they just increased the server size to 700 000, but
they still don't think they'regonna be able to Accommodate
everybody.
It's crazy.
Did you have cues, though, onconsole, or were able to get in
okay?

Chris (05:30):
No, I've been able.
It's been smooth so far.
Gotcha, it's just.
Uh, it's like because like I'dBe in the middle of something
else and I exit out and thenlike it won't exit out fully,
it'll just stay frozen, but likeI could put my inputs in and
you could hear all the soundsand everything and people
talking and everything.
And you have to like restart,you have to shut down the app

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and just restart.

Colby (05:53):
Again, gotcha, I'm very, I'm very jealous.
It's the opposite experiencefor for like, thankfully I it
didn't bother me enough or thatmuch because I wasn't super
crazy.
Um, I'm into it, but I'm notlike super like.
I'm gonna scream at the devsbecause loading times but 90
there was literally.
So they pushed the fix whenthey.

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They finally implemented an afktimer because there were so
many people trying to get intothe game and they released this
statistic.
I think it was like 50 000people just did not turn their
computer off.
They left it on for days sothey didn't lose their spot.
To be as petty as they could be, they pulled the two med.
Is that guy just pass?
I don't remember if he's thatguy.

Chris (06:36):
Um, so no, you know, he's dead, he's going.

Colby (06:40):
Um, so I know him from one meme he's the one where he
falls over.

Chris (06:45):
Apparently, uh, he didn't have a good uh reputation.
Uh, apparently, uh, he was uhdoing very inappropriate things
with the minors.
And then, uh, he had aintercourse with a hit e-girl
only fans girl bell delphine noreally.
Yeah that.

Colby (07:02):
That's what.

Chris (07:03):
I heard, at least I didn't really care much for it.

Colby (07:05):
She must have been at the beginning of her career to to
do that.

Chris (07:08):
Well, I, yeah, I think that's what it was.
That was like right after shesold the the bathwater.
Oh my gosh.

Colby (07:14):
Was that 2018?

Chris (07:17):
2018, 2019.
Maybe I'm uh, maybe a littlebit, maybe during the pandemic.
I think it was during thepandemic because that's when,
like, only fans really blew up.
But um, yeah, no.
So like he was playingoverwatch and, apparently, in
his discord, he was playing atnon-stop 24, seven for like five

(07:40):
days.
So one I don't know if it waslike his, his, his family
members or his, I don't know whoit was.
It was somebody.
They called the police to do awelfare check on him and then
that's when they uh, found his,his decomposing body in his
gaming chair.

Colby (07:57):
Bro is playing ranked and finally had enough.
He was like he couldn't getinto grandmaster.

Chris (08:03):
He was like I'm done, I can't.

Colby (08:04):
They just I heard overwatch just released like uh,
new hitbox changes and I guessthat's making the game more on
fire.
I bet they pushed that update.
He was out, checked out, no,but I, oops, I also, uh, I also
heard he wasn't really thatgreat of an individual.
I looked at a I'm only ontwitter because of my twitch

(08:26):
streaming, so I was sufferthrough it, but I read it like a
X thread, or we call them xthreads.
Now what the what?
It's so funny, like it'srebranded.
But even the links you send outto people still say twitter.
I just, you can't change a nameof a brand.
That that's in.
It's like changing google tolike ugl.
No one's gonna say ugl, they'restill gonna say google.

Chris (08:48):
Yeah, no, I've just been called a twitter I.
I don't use it at all anymore,so it's just it doesn't really
affect me.

Colby (08:54):
It's literally just bots.
To be honest, I made all mysocial media for my my twitch
streams and instantly when Imade them, I got in dms from so
many Vtuber artists that arejust bots that are trying to get
me to buy like overpriced,probably ripped off pieces of
art.
Yeah, but I read a.

Chris (09:13):
I read a twitter thread just going over how not good of
a human he was, so I know,apparently, like his final
couple of months, he was likebeing really unhinged and
posting like a lot of likeschizo tweets, like really like
the fucked up tweets.

Colby (09:29):
That's what the internet does to you everyone and we're
all gonna end up there.
We're gonna be in cyberpunksoon, going cyber psycho, yeah,
so kind of we.
We were talking about howdivers, um so yeah, fun game
highly recommended if you, ifyou, anyone out there, plays
games.
Um, so you say you were playingfor just a few hours, right,

(09:50):
how, what's your experience sofar?
Like, how do you like it?

Chris (09:55):
Oh no, it's pretty good.
I like it a lot because itreminds me of uh, halo, odst,
and I really miss halo and thein the state it's in right now
with Microsoft and their currentleadership and, um, yeah, no,
my, uh, so far, like, I playedlike one.
I played two missions.
I played one successful mission, yeah, the second one.

(10:18):
I had this 12 year oldscreaming at another guy because
, uh, I guess his mic was uhtapping onto his face and um, so
like during the mission he'sscreaming at him and I guess the
guy finally figured out how tomute his mic.
So then at the end I don't knowwhat happened the the kid got
pissed off at all of us, shotall of us and quit the game.
Sounds like average 12 year oldbehavior.

Colby (10:40):
Yeah, what difficulty did you complete your first mission
on?

Chris (10:43):
I think, it was probably on the easiest one, I I'm still
trying to figure out, when Iknow how you gauge that, if you
hot drop and if you can see anyground at all.

Colby (10:51):
You're probably uneasy when you're on the higher
difficulties.
You just don't see any terrainbecause it's covered in books.
It gets a little bit harder toget to the top.
It gets wild, man, I, I thinkthe highest I played on, I think
, is suicide and the robots.
If you, when you have youfought against the automatons

(11:12):
yet yeah, yeah, it's literallyvietnam, it's literally.
I can understand PTSD now,because fighting the robot it's
not fair when they can shootback.
Just give me the bugs and theyrun at me.
Yes, it's a great game though.
The galactic war is fascinating, like how you know, you're all
a part of an ongoing conflict.

Chris (11:34):
Yeah, no, I didn't know that.
I saw that.
I'm like holy shit, so likeit's like involving, it's like
we're fighting a real war, youknow it's uh tinfoil hat.

Colby (11:43):
This game was just made by uh governments to prepare us
for a real war, you know.
But it's really, it's reallywild and I think that makes the
games feel more Rewarding in asense, because you're all
chipping towards the same thingand I don't know if this is true
or not.
But when you're in your shipabove the planets I haven't been
able to confirm this myself,but the other ships that you see

(12:04):
shooting and the other pods, Ithink are actually other people
it's like really dynamic, but Ican't confirm or deny that, but
I really I want to believethat's accurate Because when,
like when you call down orbitals, if you look at your ship, it
actually comes from your ship,like if you called it.
There's so many little detailsin that game that I would not
expect from that, like thegunplay Immaculate, like how it

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has state reloading.
So if you're like reloading andyou run, you stop exactly in
that animation where you startedrunning and like the recoil,
how the guns feel from a co-opHorde game was not expecting it
and how their first game was topdown.
It's just, it's insane, it'swild.

Chris (12:46):
Yeah, there was another thing with the uh, the reloading
you have to manually do.
It doesn't do an auto one.
So I'd be, I'd be shooting andI'm like, oh shit, I'm out of
out of ammo.
And then I keep switching toall my other guns and I guess to
a point where everything's justout of ammo and I keep
forgetting that I have to reload.
And it's not, uh, scripted,scripted animation that just

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does it automatically.

Colby (13:09):
It's.
It's really cool.
It adds such a layer of depth.
And I always do the thing whereI dive when I'm reloading and
then I try to shoot and then Ihave to pull the bolt back and
I'm like, well, I'm dead now,but and like how the ammo is
also, like if you reload mid-mat, mid-mid mag, you're losing all
that other ammo.
It's really just the detailthey put in things that you
wouldn't really expect them todo, for the type of game Really

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shows how much polish they putinto it.
And I know last time we chattedwe we kind of talked a lot
about gaming monetization andhell divers is I Fantastic
example of how to do gamemonetization.
Like they're there a game as aservice, but you can literally,
like a lot of games, say you canearn their premium stuff by
just playing.

(13:53):
But I think hell divers is likethe only one that I played
where you can actually earnpretty much everything, even in
the premium stuff, withoutpaying a dime.
It's crazy.
I.

Chris (14:03):
Notice with the, the microtransactions too.
It's a lot not cheaper.
It's like $2 for like a hell offancy helmet and stuff.
It's not like what game was Iplaying?
Foam stars, that was it.
Like the Splatoon ripoff thatSquare Enix made not too long
ago and like they're theirpremier skins.
Like a fancy skin for one ofthe, the soap girl, one of the

(14:28):
the like the soap squid girls,whatever they were.
Like 40 bucks for like a shirtyes, crazy.

Colby (14:36):
That's why I was.

Chris (14:38):
I think pub G is the same way.
It's like oh no, don't get mestarted with pub G.
Pub G is a giant scam when itcomes to Microtransactions and
game loot because of like they,they.
They want you to buy a chestand then they want you to buy
the key for the chest, orthey'll give you like three

(14:58):
chests, but you have to.
You only have enough to buyfour keys, so you have an extra
key and you have to buy anotherchest.
And then it's like some ofthose chests they only give you
like polymers for for weaponskins that you can't even craft
because it's you have to buymore stuff.

Colby (15:15):
PUBG is the originator of some of these micro.
I think is some of these microtransaction things.
It's crazy, I don't remember.
I think it was like pub G.
You started the battle passcraze too.
If I remember, that's reachinginto the yield in time, so I
used to play the hell out of pubG, yeah.

Chris (15:32):
I've ever been playing in a lot lately.
It's it's infested with aimbots, it's Huh, it sounds like
another game I know calledescape from Tarkov I.
Was playing at the other dayand like I was maybe like 200
feet away from another player,it's it's only just a black
specks there and I mean you gotme in like two shots, maybe one.

(15:54):
I couldn't tell it happened sofast and I I just had.
I wasn't even pissed off, Ijust stared at the game and just
turned it off.

Colby (16:04):
Completely understandable .
I've been there too, like withescape from Tarkov, which is a
whole another game.
I've been streaming thatnonstop.
But they used to have a lot ofaimbots.
It still exists in the game,but they did some work.
But now instead of aimbots,there's these hackers that are
called vacuum hackers.
Now they're just quality oflife hackers and arguably
they're worse because what theydo is they load into a game and

(16:26):
there's like I don't know 10people, depending on what map
you're on, and they have hacksthat literally allow them to see
where every item On the map isabove a certain value, and then
they just vacuum it and thenleave.
So you just waste your time, soyou won't find anything good,
and it's like that's arguablyworse, because you're you're not
being killed, you're justspending like 30 minutes walking
around and grabbing likecrackers, because the only thing

(16:48):
they left on the map and theytook like the million dollar
items instantly.

Chris (16:53):
Yeah, no, no, no.
There was a another incidencewhere I was.
I was playing with Nate and wewere hiding behind a rock and
this one guy there's two of us,right?
So there's this one guy thatcomes up behind us, kills Nate,
no, no, kills me, and it tookmaybe like half a second to kill
me and then he kills Nate.

(17:13):
So I'm like wait, there'ssomething going on there.
So I clicked the spectate thing, so I watch him like slowly aim
on to me and shoot me twice andit immediately snap over the
Nate.
No, no mistake.
Like no, like off, just rightthere, dead in the center of his
head, kill him.
I'm sitting.
I'm like, oh, my god, this guyis using aimbot.

(17:34):
There's no way he's, there isno way.
This guy has been playing thisfor six, seven years.

Colby (17:44):
He's never left the basement.
He's literally he's attached tomedical machines to keep this
man alive.

Chris (17:51):
And I reported him.
I'm like I don't think, I don'tthink Korea is gonna look into
it.
No, this is that.
This is their top top ofcustomer right.

Colby (18:01):
Yeah, they already tapped into money.
They're not.
They don't care about hackers,they made there, they made their
buck.
Since we're already a sisteralready talking about gaming,
might as well go through some ofthe things I wrote down Almost.
How did you get into gaming andwhat was your first real
favorite game?
Probably Halo, I got to imagine, right.

Chris (18:21):
Yeah, so I got into gaming Since, uh, I Was two, I
guess maybe one, I don't know.
I was young.
It was like around the 60 and64 days I remember was playing
Mario and Zelda and and then Igot into the ps2 Pia, the ps1,

(18:43):
then the ps2.
I was playing an old game.
It used to be called a Socom USNavy seals.
They don't Sony drop that gamelike a decade ago and they think
it's not gonna make any money.
But you know the fan base isstill alive and they're still
reviving their old servers from20s, 20 plus years ago.
And but, yeah, no, but I gotinto that and then I got, I got

(19:09):
introduced to the world of Xboxand then I got Halo and I
immediately became in love withthat series for God knows how
long, until Bungie left and then343 came in and, in my opinion,
screwed a lot of stuff up,really went off the rails and
what the original, the originalgoal, was to be.

(19:32):
And then, uh, yeah, no, I'vejust been living in this house
scape of the modern-day gamingindustry.

Colby (19:38):
It's definitely Definitely hit or miss yeah.

Chris (19:44):
That's a really good.

Colby (19:46):
That's.
I'm curious how do you feelabout the, the current gaming
industry and the model likebattle passes always.
Online games of service.

Chris (19:55):
It's, it's very scummy.
Uh, there's no, there's nopassion, no more.
It's all just money, money,money, money.
You know yearly quala duties,yearly.
Well, what used to be yearlyassassins, cruel, now it's going
back to you, it's going back tolive service now under one game

(20:17):
.
It's really stupid.
Um, I don't know everythinghaving a battle pass everything,
everything just being like, oh,we need to make a make, a
status quo with the investors,all this stuff.
It's just, it's gotten annoyingat this point.

Colby (20:34):
Yeah, totally agree I.
It's a hot take.
But I was a really big fan ofthe open world RPG, assassin
greed games.
I kind of thought they werereally good.

Chris (20:44):
Yeah, it's not for everybody, though.
It's like it's really good.
The thing is about it.
It's like, from what I'veexperienced with it, it's like
it's trying to get into theorigins of the assassins and all
that, and it's just.
To be honest.
I made a way to.

Colby (21:04):
I pay no attention to the story.

Chris (21:07):
They may, I don't know it's like because you bring it
up to like old school fans andit's like they want to kill you
it's more.
They tried getting a newaudience and they did because,
like a lot of people I know, Ilike work and stuff.
They constantly like can't waitto leave to go play for a holla
or a.
Odyssey or something is, butit's like I don't know it.

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Assassins creates like aspecial case.

Colby (21:32):
Yeah, no, I mean I also am a little biased because I I
only played like black flag andassassin's greed 3, so I wasn't
there for the og og stuff, but Ifor me it's more of the I don't
know.
I really like Greek mythology,so Odyssey is probably my
favorite, but I don't reallyeven pay attention to the story
that much.
It's just the, the world andbeing engulfed in the, the

(21:53):
mythos, like north mythology forValhalla.
But I totally get the criticismlike I gave up on Valhalla five
times because I know it's justway too long.
Um, yeah, I haven't playedMirage, but you know, as long as
the fans are happy, that's allthat matters.
But having battle passes andalways online is really
fatiguing.
I totally get it.
It just feels like I Don't knowwhy battlefield decided to do

(22:15):
that, like during cope it.

Chris (22:20):
I don't know.
Yeah, they're there, they'reall battlefields thing is that
was.
That was pretty, pretty wacky.
Yeah, it was.

Colby (22:32):
Definitely a little wacky .
I mean, I'm glad that they theyput effort in to bring it back
and to like work on it, but itwas a little little wacky.
Do you have modern warfare 3?
Not.

Chris (22:43):
I Didn't even bother getting it.
I even think about getting it.
I remember they put on sale andI was telling everybody I'm
like, oh, I'm probably to get itwhen it goes on sale.
And I saw I'm saying I don'twant to do it because I played
the beta and it was exactly likeMw2.

Colby (22:58):
It's, there's no, it's not worth it at all.
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
I never even like I thought the2019 modern warfare and then
the one after that which was Mw2, right, those were like, yeah,
sorry, he got.
Those are the last two I played, the last two will ever play,
because I really like the story.
But I just cannot do.
Fps is like anymore.

(23:21):
Like Valorant and Call of Duty,I just I even I guess I'm I
don't want to say I'm oldbecause I'm only 24 but I just
can't do it because everyone'sso competitive now.
It's like it's like walkinginto a gym locker room.
So you just want to have somefun, you're getting screamed at.
I mean, calling Slerr is by a12 year old who's popping off at
like 30 kills because hedoesn't.

(23:41):
Everyone wants to be the nexttwitch streamer.

Chris (23:46):
Now, the last time I played a Mw2, there was a guy I
don't know I was.
I got home from work.
All I wanted to do is just playmy games.
You know, relax.
It's a very stressed out work.
I got home and there was thisguy.
He was like going like 46 and 2and team deathmatch it's holy.
And then, uh, and then when thegame was over, he started shit

(24:06):
talking and like the post matchthing and I don't know.
I went off on the guy and Isaid a lot of things I shouldn't
have said.
You know what?
I Think I should delete thisgame.
I Made, like, various effortsand trying to sell out to people
.
I'm like I don't want this inmy hands anymore.
I'm tired, I'm done with this.

Colby (24:26):
It brings out the dark side of me.
I don't need it near meanywhere.

Chris (24:31):
Turns me into the worst possible version of myself.

Colby (24:36):
I mean, I get it, man, like I.
I don't like I Rage, but likequietly to myself because I'm
too like Embarrassed to do openmic raging or yelling at
somebody.
But I totally get it like.
I smashed many controllers whenI used to play like a lot.

Chris (24:53):
Because I recently got into a.
I recently got into the siegetoo.
That was another one that I hadto put away after like two
hours of playing it again.

Colby (25:02):
Oh man, siege was like the last shooter that I really
was into and I was pretty decentat, but then, unfortunately,
what were, 12 years into that,games existence About you and I
was like, yeah, I'm good.
People like the one thing.
I thought that game was so funfor like 400 hours of playtime
and then I got to a point wherepeople are pixel-peaking

(25:22):
literally something that's assmall as my fingernail through a
hole in the wall because theyknow you're there.
I'm like, I'm good, I'm good.

Chris (25:33):
That's another game where it's like People just didn't
put that game down and they'retoo good.
It's Especially ranked.
You don't have fun.
It's like clocking into anotherjob.

Colby (25:45):
Literally I got that, like I managed to get to gold,
but I was carried.
It's like really sweaty.
Speaking of that, like Imentioned a few times already, I
play a lot of escape fromTarkov and that game has been
out for a while now and it'sbecome so Because they do like
wipes and stuff.
So like you get Like the gamestarts everyone from scratch and

(26:06):
you get like half a year andthen they wipe and they get new
content.
I won't start from scratchagain doing like quests and
stuff, but the game is so playedand the player base are like
only veterans that have like3000 plus hours on the game
where everybody knows everything.
So everyone knows where all theloot is.
That's really good.
We're all the quest items andthe quest locations.
They know all the spawns andwhere people are likely going to

(26:29):
walk, and that's the only thingthat like drives me crazy
sometimes and why I can'tnecessarily Recommend it to new
people.
Because, unless you'd likegetting kicked in the nuts over
and over again, tarkov is apainful game to play.
It's really realistic.
It probably has the bestgunplay I've ever experienced in
my life, but it's just.
People have that shit naileddown to a science.

(26:49):
They did say they were gonna dolike interconnect and maps, so
it's like Daisy kind of and thatwill definitely make it easier,
but, like right now, it'spainful.
I went on to a game with myfriends on this map called
interchange was a giant mall.
We literally spawned and walkedlike 10 feet and someone was
sitting in a bush Waiting for usto go there because there's

(27:10):
only one direction to walkduring that spawn and it's
painful and then you lose like$5,500,000 of gear instantly.
It's rough, great game, likedon't get me wrong, like it's a
really fun, like there's a lotof redeeming qualities, but
they're their hacker situationand that's difficulty is rough.
It's good game, though Justpainful.

Chris (27:34):
Yeah, it's like that with the battle royale's to what the
cuz like you'd land and peoplejust sitting corners for like 30
minutes, 45 minutes, justwaiting.
It drives me insane like Idon't know how to describe it to
you that I have to turn off thegame.

(27:56):
Like I said before, I have noreaction to it, I just I I
squeeze my controller and turnoff the game.
I'm just like it's not, it'snot worth it.
Hop on another game.
You play a single-player game.

Colby (28:10):
Relax, actually relax play a game that's made to be
relaxing.
It's, I think League of Legendsdefinitely brings the dark side
out of every human being thatplays it I, you know.
Then they put it on mobile andit got a lot worse.

Chris (28:26):
Oh.

Colby (28:27):
Another problem.
Yeah, they have a.
It's Wild rift.
It's basically like league buta lot shorter, but now everyone
is basically stupid because it'son the phone.
Yeah, there's single-playergames are the only.
Those are relaxing.
I mean, I like MMOs too.
Those are relaxing.
Speaking of battle royale's,though, I have another point on

(28:49):
here that wanted to ask I alwaysI playfully pick on you and I
playfully pick on some of myother friends, not in a mean way
, just cuz I'm curious or menoutside are looking in.
Let's, let's just talk aboutfor tonight.
I need to know.
I just tell me about it, likewhat is what's like?
I just need to hear from aveteran for a night player.

Chris (29:11):
Oh, for tonight is uh.
From what I've watched itevolve over the years See up.
Unfortunately, I have over like2025 Veteran for.
But, um, watching it evolve isjust one giant ad, because

(29:33):
recently, well, right now, theygot a lady Gaga battle, a mini
battle, pass going on and theguitar hero section of I see,
and I is that like that's itsown thing.
That's its own thing.
So it's like it's split in thefour different games under like
one hub, just being fortnight.
So they got battle royale, theygot Lego fortnight, they got a

(29:56):
rocket league racing and thenthey got the guitar hero one.
So, like each separate one haslike its own special events,
like Right now the guitar heroone fortnight festival.
They just got done with their,their weekend section or like
their weekend season.
You know the, the singer yeah,now they.
They transition into lady Gaga,yeah.

(30:20):
That's why, while they're doingthat, they're still doing their
, the Current season in battleroyale.
It's like what?
Chapter five now, chapter five,season one now, and on top of
that they're doing a little minievent with the teenage On top
of their little mini event withthe Metal Gear Solid characters.

Colby (30:44):
It's an onion man I got.
I got that Teenage Mutant NinjaTurtle recommended on my
YouTube feed.

Chris (30:49):
I'm like what's wacky little fortnight doing now, how
they doing over there in theircorner of the internet and From
what I've I've been seeing inthe Well, the rumors, the echoes
I've been getting on theinternet is that they're
planning on putting in a DevilMay Cry characters and I've been

(31:09):
waiting for that for maybe liketwo months now, but apparently
that's in the files, or in thethe data data files.
I love it and um, that's all.
That's all I know right now.
With fortnight did Every day.
Well, no, the battle, thebattle.
The item shop has been the samefor like a week now because
they they've over Overloaded itwith so much shit.

Colby (31:33):
Yeah, there's a lot of skins, I so I'm just curious,
like what again?
Because I never played and Ijust I'm super bad with battle
royales.
I'm gonna sound like a oldperson asking a younger person
what a what a phone does.
But like what made?
Like what do you?
Why do you think for tonightbecame this huge thing?
Like what, that's a good answerbecause that's accurate.

Chris (31:55):
Kids it was.
It wasn't designed for kids butit got a big player base
regarding, like at the time, 10year olds.
So now you have this wholeplayer base that pretty much
just grew up with it and that'slike.
That's like their call duty,like for us, like how we had
called duty and battlefield andall this thing.
That's their thing and but thething is it never ended, it

(32:19):
never moved on, it just evolvedso as more children are getting
into it.
You know they're buying skins,they're getting attracted to all
these other teenage real NinjaTurtles, all Optimus Prime, all
these, all these characters areseeing a spider-man, all all
these people they're seeing fromall these movies and shows that

(32:40):
they watch.
They're getting their parentsto get them like V bucks and
everything for their Christmasesand birthdays and it's just,
it's A constant domino effectand it got them more money and
then they're getting morecollaborations with people that
are also paying them and it'sjust endless money machine that
they become.
But I, in my opinion, theybecame they.

(33:04):
They did the whole monetizationof games right, because it's
never like they.
They don't try to make theirstuff overly expensive, like
when they had their dispute withApple because Apple regarding V
box.
They were taking a specificamount of percentage From them,
from what I remember.
So they broke up with Apple.

(33:24):
They broke, like theirconnection with Apple and they
made their V box down from liketen dollars to six dollars and
Then recently they came outsaying that for inflation that
had to bump it back up to tenMm-hmm.
But their thing is like they.
They want to monetize the gamebut they're trying to keep it

(33:45):
more Fresh for people like addmore new things to it, which is
why a lot of people werecomplaining with the weekend,
because the weekend gotannounced in it in early
December and he just left.
He just left last week, thisweek yeah, that's a long time I

(34:07):
Am.

Colby (34:08):
I am like, now that you mentioned it, that, like you
said, like kids grew up with itbecause it's been around for a
long time now.
I'm just thinking because thethis gaming model effect on
younger people is definitelynoticeable, because my friend
has a younger daughter Well, nothis daughter but a younger

(34:30):
sister, I should say and shegrew up on for a night.
She's scary to listen to, likeit's like all V box skins and
it's a little scary.
So I'm just the psychologicalimpact of having a game that
never goes away and keepsgetting Evolved.
I wonder just the effect onpeople as they're developing

(34:53):
into early adulthood adolescentsa lot of a Lot of Lessons on
money management.

Chris (35:03):
That's probably what's gonna have to.
Oh yeah, I think people are thebottom because it's like old,
this new thing came, like thisnew skin came out and then, like
Three days later, they're gonnawant a newer skin that just
came out because I've beenvictim to that.
Yeah, there's like I just I geta skin and then like I get like

(35:23):
I don't know the Solid snakeskin and then, like two days
later, they come out with aMichelangelo skin and I'm like,
oh, I want that this.
Like now I realize I'm like Igotta gotta slow it down.

Colby (35:36):
Yeah, no, it's definitely .
I'm just digesting.
It's like I never.
I'm trying to think how I wouldfeel if, like, what if we were
young and we were playing modernwarfare 2 2022, like, oh, geez,
like I Feel like to a youngeraudience.
Battle passes and all of thatmust seem like the dopamine.

Chris (35:59):
Oh yeah, no, that's definitely a factor.
Same thing like Just playingvideo games in general, like
getting your dopamine rush.
Smartphones, technology,everything's like whoo.
I got likes on this whoo.
I got a text message from thisperson.
I am getting like.
It's like a.
You're feeling good, you know,oh yeah, that's how that's,

(36:20):
that's how they've been Workingwith the gamers for the past
couple of years.
It's like because they knowwhere to get them.
You know like they know how to.
They know how to Get themcoming back and in some cases it
works and some cases is notworking.
Like cold duty for a lot of itsold fan base.

Colby (36:40):
Yeah, I totally agree.
I feel like I'm.
I feel like modern warfare 3would have been received better
If they just stuck to the planof making it a DLC and making it
like 30 bucks.
I feel like they probably wouldhave like got it.

Chris (36:52):
It's definitely a.
It's definitely a 30 buck game.
There's, there's.
They give you a four hourcampaign with a.
It's not even like a realcampaign.
It's like a warzone expansionkind of, with like little little
cut scenes in here and thereand then, like it's, multiplayer
is completely identical to MW2,only you have faster movement

(37:16):
and All of its maps are justremakes from the original modern
warfare.
2.2 dozen, not yeah, I will.

Colby (37:25):
I will say that's the only part and that entire
experience that is somewhatattractive is to play on those
maps.

Chris (37:30):
And that's where it comes to play again.
Oh guys, look, we got a, we got.
You got all your favorite mapswhen you were kids.
You know you can play a game,you know, spend another 70 bucks
plus tax.
And then you load in crazy,want to go a little bit crazy?
Spend a hundred bucks.
Oh yeah, fancy skins.

Colby (37:47):
I you can get two guns that have an anime girl come out
of it and start dancing.
Did you see that bundle?
Please tell me yeah all rightgood.
I was like if this man neverseen this bundle, he's about to
be even more enraged by theexistence of this game.

Chris (38:02):
I, it is thirst man.
Oh man, they, they, theyspecifically did they like.
You know what we?
We heard Chris in his, his lastMW2, you know what guys we got
to make this for him.
We know he's gonna come backfor that.

Colby (38:20):
Oh, they put cat ears on that and they made the cat girl
animation.
They're like this is gonna getover.
Yeah, no, I did.
I was like is this real?
No, it's.
And then like it's overall thetriple-a video game industry.
Right now I'm really hopingthese double-a's like power hold

(38:43):
Literally millions of dollarsworth of sales, and it took hell
divers to through Sony CEO tobe like alright, maybe PC is in
a niche community, because Iremember he was like PC players
are niche community and they'redying and like Half of the help
held diverse to sales was fromPC.

(39:04):
So I'm hoping this year somebig things happen like can we?

Chris (39:08):
see a lot of play with.

Colby (39:09):
Xbox, like what is.

Chris (39:13):
A lot of people are on PC .
I don't know.
Oh yeah, there are people goingto like Best Buy and Walmart
right now just getting pre-built.
Yeah, just to play games on PCliterally.

Colby (39:26):
I don't know what he was on when he said that, but it was
like it's.
I'm hoping big things for 2024,for the triple-a gaming space,
because, man, we need it, we.
I don't want to open up modernwarfare 3 and being a shitty UI
that tells me about the fourother games that they have
Because of the connected codcinematic universe.

Chris (39:51):
I know from what I've been seeing this year with games
it's been mostly the the Segashow Because they came out with
you know, you know the Acusaseries right.

Colby (40:04):
Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on that, just because
it's interesting.

Chris (40:06):
So they came out with their sequel to like a dragon.
It's a RPG game now.
It's not like the the old, likebeat em ups.
So everybody fell in love withlike a dragon.
So this one like, instead of itlike just being released in
Japan.
First they made it worldwide,worldwide, and that's made by
Sega, and then the the.

(40:28):
The guy that's given a In myprofile picture was given his
friend a fade from the Persona 3.

Colby (40:36):
I've been trying.
I have my my window down enoughso I can see your profile
picture and I've been, I've beentrying to decide for what that
is he's given his friend a fade.

Chris (40:46):
That's from the persona 3 remake and that's also produced
by Sega, and I think there wasa.
There's another game, shimagamitense a 5.
It's like a definitive edition.
It originally was a NintendoSwitch exclusive and now there's
release here in all the all thesystems and that's getting big

(41:08):
hype and everything, because itis a good game.
I played it and Right now it'slike I think this year Sega is
gonna have like a lot of hits,but then, like we got Final
Fantasy coming out next week andthen there's something coming
out.

Colby (41:23):
I feel like I blink.
I feel like I blink in this anew Final Fantasy game.

Chris (41:29):
I don't know they're like , they're going crazy about
fancy games.
Like I swear, I thought like anew one came out, like four
months ago so in 22 they cameout with it was like their 35th
anniversary, so they came outwith like a like a Final Fantasy

(41:49):
origins game, kind of like ananniversary kind of game that
they just wanted to like fill inthere.
And then 23 Last year they cameout with that was final fantasy
17, 16 and Then this year isthe sequel to a final fantasy 7

(42:09):
remake, final fantasy 7 rebirth.
It's a fever dream in, yeah, butum, so far it's like, I guess,
regarding triple a games.

Colby (42:23):
It's, it's going good.
I just want them to shake it uplike mainly, mainly.

Chris (42:29):
Japanese base.
Oh yeah, they're on fire.

Colby (42:31):
I think they've been doing good for a while.

Chris (42:35):
You know this must be.
There's a Korean game comingout in April, stuller blade.
That's been causing a lot ofcontroversy because of the other
main character.
She's like a very light.
They're trying to say she'sunrealistic looking she's.
She's like so it looks like anormal Korean girl and they
didn't like that.
So they tried like cancelingthe game, like doing a Hogwarts

(42:55):
legacy kind of thing that shewas too unrealistic.
But then, like they, they show,like they're behind the scenes
and everything.
I guess everybody stoppedtalking about it.
But they released a releasedate for everyone to pre-order.
So I guess now people arepre-ordering it.
I don't know.

Colby (43:11):
That's wild, without canceling myself, because I
would get canceled on aheartbeat that a Hogwarts legacy
.
Debacle is actually tilting.
I seen a website where it waslike report your favorite
content creator for playingHogwarts legacy because they're
XYZ.
I won't get too deep into itbecause I'll get canceled in a
heartbeat, but it was just wild.
It's so wild.

(43:31):
I canceled.
Culture was such a bigconversation when I was at New
Paul's and I just wanted to.
I hate, I hate it.
It's disgusting, but see, I'mat the point.
Oh sorry, no, go, you're good.

Chris (43:42):
No, I'm just.
I'm at the point where I'm justgetting really disappointed and
like being a part of like a Notbeing a part, but like being
involved in a gaming community,like Having an interest with a
bunch of people that just likefeel the need to constantly make
a fuss about the most minorthings, like Xbox versus

(44:03):
PlayStation and like like allthis stupid stuff like cuz.
Recently I don't know if youheard um Xbox came out.
Phil Spencer, the CEO of Xbox,came out saying that he's making
his four new exclusive Xboxgames to come out on the ps5 and
the PC.

(44:23):
I think the switch and you getall these like these grown men
fighting online with like othergroup of grown men on whether or
not their plastic box is betterthan theirs.
I'm like I know the series X isa lot powerful, but it's not a
noticeable difference,especially if you don't have

(44:45):
like the right monitor or TV.
It's it's all the same.
Like to me, like I have like aten-year-old TV, I play on all
my Xbox and it's like I don'tnotice it.
I notice like extra frames, butI don't it's not 4k, it's like
HD 1080p.

Colby (45:01):
Yeah, no but, um the exclusivity debate man's wild.

Chris (45:05):
But um no, apparently now they're talking about putting
held out as to an Xbox.
That's, that's what.

Colby (45:11):
I've been here I mean I would hope so, with how good it
did.

Chris (45:14):
It's like.
What I've been noticing is likethey're like it's it sucks,
that the exclusivity thing,because it's like, in my opinion
, like exclusivity gives thesecompanies its character.
Mm-hmm, like you know, nintendohas Mario, xbox has, you know,
halo.
You know they give it likethese, these mascots kind of so

(45:35):
like it builds up their brands,they get more innovative, you
know, because there's a lot ofcompetition, but uh, but then
it's like you get the like these, these, like these fanboys, and
they just ruin it.
You know it's like, okay, likeXbox wants to Make games for the
PS5, ps5, they want to makegames for the Xbox eventually,
and it's like it's like, it'slike kind of like tribal warfare

(45:58):
.
Yeah, it's, it's just crazy,it's disappointing when you see
it.
I don't know it's like because,like people used to in my, like
my experience, people used tolike talk about stuff and it was
like it was just our hobby, butit's like people just made it
like their lifestyle in a wayand it's just it's.
It's scary to see, you know.

Colby (46:22):
Yeah, I mean, I totally agree.
I used to when I was younger.
I used to just joke around andbe like, ah, Xbox versus PS4 or
whatever, but like it's just thething you play games on.

Chris (46:34):
Yeah, it's, it's a computer.
It's a computer with a fancy UI.

Colby (46:41):
No, I mean I don't know what.
I wonder what the console spacewould be like if there was no
exclusivity.
It's like, it's like adouble-edged sword, right.
You get like mascots, like Xboxhas Halo, ps4 has Uncharted, I
don't know what other Spider-Manfor a while there, I wonder
what.

(47:01):
It's just me, a giant, massiveblob.
I'm curious.
I'm in the middle, I'm soreally good, unopinionated, but
it's, it's interesting.

Chris (47:09):
I'm just going to one box with everything in it, yeah
they're going to have a merger.

Colby (47:14):
They're going to break a business lawn Xbox and Sony.
They're going to merge andbecome a giant, giant
corporation.
That's they're going to be likea mega court from Cyberpunk,
that's that's the start.

Chris (47:26):
Of Cyberpunk starts off with the big three.

Colby (47:30):
The big three, oh my God.
Gabe, the CEO from Steam, andthen those guys, yeah, who would
be our soccer?
I think steam would be oursoccer?

Chris (47:41):
No, probably Microsoft.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, because they, they keepbuying they, they, they, they're
going crazy buying everybody up, like the thing with the
borders gate, they good.
Apparently, the CEO of a Larryin got called up by one of the
Xbox marketing people and theywere putting in offers to try

(48:02):
and buy out Larry in and theguy's like no, I think I'm going
to stay in my company for alittle bit, a little bit, while
you know, yeah especiallywithout success.

Colby (48:13):
Well, I was.
They have, absolutely have allthe cards.
They literally have all thecards.
Yeah.
But just to close the loop onFortnite, I brought up that it's
basically an ad and I reallylike that.
It's kind of funny because Iwill say I give for night, I
haven't played, because I just,I don't know, I played it when
it came out and then I guess Ijust got a bad taste because the
kids fan base I can't, I can'tget myself to play it, but their

(48:37):
, their events are wild, likeI'll always say that I love
watching them, like the the onewith Marvel, where Galaxia or
whatever his name is, you haveto fight him, and like when they
change seasons.
I don't, I don't know thecontext, so I'm going to sound
absolutely out of my depth, butit was like you're floating
around in space and they dropyou in the racing and then they
float you around again and doanother mini game in the Lego.

Chris (49:00):
It's like I was.

Colby (49:02):
I'm sorry, you're good.
The it's like their events arewild.

Chris (49:06):
Yeah, yeah, you know that was the thing to like advertise
, like how they're revamping thegame, but like, on top of like
the topic of it being an ad,from what I'm like with a like,
haven't you noticed, like Idon't know if, like your
algorithms all screwed up likemine on like Instagram and
TikTok and everything, but likeI've been noticing a lot of like

(49:29):
Metal Gear solid memes withlike that one song playing in
the background?
I don't know if you've beengetting that?

Colby (49:34):
Yeah, I get a lot of memes like that and that's,
that's just from Fortnite.

Chris (49:41):
Like everybody.
Like I remember when Narutocame out and Fortnite, everybody
like started flooding in towatch in Naruto and it's like
you, just you guys, everybodywas rushing in.
Well, I wouldn't say that wasFortnite's fault, that was
actually just just your cousins,because but it just attracts,

(50:02):
like when they do collaborationswith other people it just
attracts people to that specificform of media.
Like a lot of people weregetting into invincible when
invincible got in the Fortniteas like the endless loop.
I still get to watch marketing.

Colby (50:20):
Oh yeah, it's.
It's a really great marketingtool.
Just get a collab on Fortnite.
So is Lego Fortnite like LegoBattle Royale, like where is it?

Chris (50:30):
So it's, it's just Minecraft Like those, I like it.
Well, I always get it to.

Colby (50:40):
Fortnite.
There's stuff that theircollaboration in there their
events are really good yeah it's, we got Lego.

Chris (50:48):
We got Lego Minecraft Fortnite before GTA 6.

Colby (50:53):
I'm really sad I'm not going to be able to play the
game, for, like it's going tocome out, I'm going to have to
wait another five years before Ican play it on PC.
There's the Hoping Roll library, oh yeah bro I yeah, literally.
I try not to be a diffusionist,but I'm waking up in the
morning I'm like, oh, I'm stillalive.
That means the news didn't fallyet.

Chris (51:14):
In my in my math class today I was.
I was sitting there, we weregoing over the lesson and stuff
and like I'm in the middle ofwriting on my notebook and
everything goes dark, all thelights go off.
I was like, yes, finallyhappened.
I guess some guy drilled intothe circuit board and turned off
the power to the school, oh myGod.

(51:37):
But you know, I had a had aslight bit of hope today.

Colby (51:41):
It's just I was like, yes , finally, where's the mushroom
cloud?
I want to watch it.
No, it's crazy, man I.
I was thinking about doing anepisode on it, but just talking
about we are in such a era of Idon't want to say negativity.
We're like there's so muchcreativity going on in the world

(52:03):
right now, like everybody isbeing creative we're in this
creative dawning and I totallywant to talk about your YouTube
edits next, speaking ofcreativity but like, at the same
time, there is just thisunderlying feeling, a dread.
I listened to forehead fables.
Shout out to forehead fables.
It's a podcast from General Samand they had an episode and

(52:26):
they literally talking about thesame thing.
It feels like we're walking onthe edge of a cliff and at any
second we're about to fall intoit.
We have like constant warsgoing on, that like it's 50
degrees in the middle of winter.
So it's like it's really hardto not have this deficiency in
this mindset and be like what'sthe point of doing anything

(52:46):
because it would probably bedead when we're 50.

Chris (52:48):
Yeah, oh no, it's it's, it's the world's crazy.
So if well, you know, like me,and you know it's always been
crazy, you know we were broughtup with 9, 11 and then all those
wars in the Middle East, andit's just, it's the same.
You know that we had, you know,COVID, and now we're going back

(53:09):
to war.
It's like it's the endlesscycle of just bullshit.
Yeah, no, it really, it reallynobody we live in an age now
where no one can get alongFriends divided by their race
and political affiliations andgender, and it's just.
And sexuality is just.
It's crazy.
It's like people just don'twant to make the effort to try

(53:32):
and get along you know.

Colby (53:33):
Yeah, there's a lot of hostility.
I'm right there with you,though, man.
I'm like there's.
There's some days where it'slike is it going to happen today
?
Am I going to open up the?
Is there going to be like azombie virus or something Like
is?
Am I going to have?
Rick Ryan was walking to theclassroom and just it's crazy.

Chris (53:53):
Yeah, no, I get.
I go on Google and I see likeall these like recommended
searches from like the otherGoogle users are looking up and
I'm seeing stuff like bubonicplague.
I'm like, oh that's crazy.

Colby (54:04):
Yeah, bro, literally I don't even.
I think I'll type in world.
And since my brand is WorldBuilder, right when I type in
world the searches are like isthe world going to end?
What do I do when the worldends?
How to prepare for the end ofthe world?
What the fuck?
It's crazy.
I genuinely don't know what.

(54:26):
What is what is going to belike in 30 years?

Chris (54:29):
I'm just, I can't wait to see this, this election,
because it's like OK, everybodyhated Trump, nobody likes Biden,
so it's and it's, supposedlythey're both running against
each other again.
So it's like our best bet islike can't be, nobody can.

Colby (54:43):
Can everyone just like not vote?
What would happen if, justtheoretically, everyone just
didn't vote, did you see?
Oh shit, speaking of this Iknow there's absolutely no order
to this, by the way everyonelistening.
So if you're on a rollercoaster and you're like what the
fuck is happening, welcome toan average conversation when we
talk.
It's fantastic.
I love it.
Have you seen the Civil Wartrailer?

Chris (55:06):
Not Marvel, oh my goodness bro, Texas and
California suddenly secedingfrom the United.

Colby (55:15):
States.
That's the only part.
That's like a little weird butlike that movie is scary in such
a unique way.

Chris (55:25):
It's getting very up.
What's it called predictive?
Because apparently Texas isdoing this thing where they're.
They're not listening to thefederal government.
So the federal government istrying to say that Texas is
retaliating.
Oh boy.

Colby (55:39):
Civil War.
I was like oh man, it's like Iseen that first trailer.
I straight up had a nightmarebecause it's so real.
It's scary, because it feels soreal.
There was a scene in thattrailer where the main
protagonists are just sittingthere and there's like kids
because you know you have tohave kids and movies like this,
so you feel bad and there'ssoldiers and the soldiers like

(56:03):
going to kill them and theprotagonist are like wait, we're
American.
And the soldier like scoffs andlike lifts up his guns.
Like what kind of American I'm?
Like that's so real.

Chris (56:14):
That's on that level.

Colby (56:16):
Like literally people are on that level already, like if
someone from like I don't knowAgain, I'm unopinionated but
like someone in the South may belike, oh, you're in a, you're
in New York and you're notreally in it, it's like people
are already at that, thatgranular, granular level.

Chris (56:36):
It's scary, but that's, that's the, that's the USA
number one baby.

Colby (56:44):
It's wild, that movie.
Oh my God.
It's like I'm actually scaredto watch it, but I also love.
I've watched Parks andRecreation, so I can't unsee Ron
Swanson every time.
I don't know the name of theactor, but it's the guy who
plays the president in thatmovie.

Chris (57:00):
Oh, it's really, I didn't know that.
Yeah, I don't know if that wasthe.
They were trying to make that akind of if like in their minds,
if they thought, like Trumpwent fucking nuts and try to
make a dictatorship.
It's, I didn't know.
Ron Swanson was playing.

Colby (57:21):
Yeah, it's the actor.
For one I can do it quick.
Actor for Ron Swanson NickOfferman.
He also plays in the last of ashow.
But crazy man, that movie, I'mgoing to watch it and never
sleep again.
But long winded, sci-tagingshort run, it feels like we're

(57:43):
walking on a cliff.
Just economic, like globally,like what's going to happen next
?
Is North Korea just going tohit the Uno reverse card and
take over the world?
I mean, have a red dawn.

Chris (57:55):
Apparently, North Korea is collapsing.
That's what I was told.

Colby (57:59):
Is it?

Chris (58:00):
They're their economy is not doing too well and they're
losing a lot of money.
And they're they're supposed tonot going to be classified as a
country anymore.

Colby (58:09):
That's kind of what happens when you have money
that's made up.
I mean, I guess all mytheoretically I guess you can
say all money is made up.

Chris (58:17):
But North Korea man.

Colby (58:19):
I don't know Worlds.
We're living in very wild times.
Everybody, Just do what youlove.
Do what you enjoy.
Try to live every day to hisfullest, Because next you know
we're going to be walking dead.

Chris (58:31):
Yeah, that's, that's, that's what I'm.
I'm having the mindset now thatI'm just, I'll be lucky if I
make it to 30.
Yeah, it's like it's.
It's just, it's been crazy.
Honestly, I don't think like,sorry, go ahead.
No, no, it's like everything'sjust, everything's going,
everything's crazy.

(58:52):
It's like it's no one'sthinking.
It's like it's just.
They keep just like theythey're acting before they think
and that's like I don't know.
Yeah, it's just been going nuts.

Colby (59:03):
It's crazy.
I'll end this little, I'll endthis section with this last
thought that I usually tellpeople when they talk to me
about it I because I relate,like I totally.
It's hard to keep positive wheneverything feels like it's
falling apart.
But if we all have the mindsetof what's the point of doing
anything, because the worldmight end in like a year, if we

(59:24):
get to that point when the worldis ending and we're sitting
there at that precipice, like Idon't know, maybe it's flooding
or maybe it's the nuclear war,and we're we're on that
precipice, is waiting, you'lllook back on the years before
and be like man, I never didanything, I just waited for this
to happen, and it's going tofeel a lot worse.
So if you just do what you loveevery day, try to pursue your

(59:45):
creative passions, then nomatter what happens, at least
you're doing what you love.
You know, speaking of what youlove, youtube edits you're
pretty good at all.

Chris (01:00:00):
I just I don't know how to explain it.
It's just a lot of impulses.
It's like I get an idea to doin some, I just do it and then I
watch it over and over and overagain, like how do we make it
better?
And I put it down for a littlebit, I put it back up and I'm
like you know, I'm going to addthis and I make these, these

(01:00:21):
skits, so skits over the years.
They're pretty good, though.
They're pretty good.
It's a very, it's veryunnatural.

Colby (01:00:28):
My favorites are the one where something wacky happens
and then it cuts to your iconiclaugh that I love.
It's really good.
Have you thought of crazyquestion?
But have you thought of maybedoing more content creation and
maybe even doing like an actualYouTube channel?
Not, that sounds like an insult, but you know what I mean.

(01:00:49):
Do you want to branch out intolike doing more?

Chris (01:00:51):
I mean I got a YouTube channel.
Now it's just I just post likestupid shitposting stuff.
Yeah, like when when Will Smithslapped Chris Rock, like I made
like a bunch of like Yakuzaedits and Evangelion edits and
all this stuff, but it was likeit was.
It's all just for fun.
It's like I got suspended offof YouTube apparently for like a
week.
I like it Because so like on myYouTube page now I have like

(01:01:15):
seven or eight videos, but Ihave like thousands of them on
listed because I just I it's allstuff from when I'm playing,
like my games and stuff, and Iget.
I get like good clips and stuff.
I don't want like other peopleseeing it, I only want to see it
for myself.
But it's on listed so likesince like I'm able to like get
the other people YouTube hit meon like a, I think I was like

(01:01:38):
going nuts screaming at somebody, like grinding them on a game,
they put you on a list.
Mama Susan didn't like that andyeah, I got suspended for like
a week.
So all this stuff that I waslike naturally like clipping
while I was playing my game, Ihad to just send it to myself.

Colby (01:02:00):
I like to imagine Susan click that video and it's just
ear piercing, blood curdlingscreams.

Chris (01:02:06):
And the thing was it was like a.
It was like a five hour NewYear's Eve live stream I was
doing, so somebody had to sitthrough that video for five
hours to find out what was wrong.

Colby (01:02:19):
Oh man, I your edits are really good.
I think I think you would bepretty good at making like crazy
edits.
You have to give talent there,my friend.
I think you're pretty good.

Chris (01:02:31):
I was trying to remember I don't know who it was though
he on YouTube was looking for aneditor.
I almost considered it, butthen he was like, oh, it's like
a contest thing.
I was like I don't want to doit.
But he was like I think he waslike a pretty, like somewhat big
guy.
I just don't remember who itwas.
I was watching, I know, oh yeah,so this is super niche guy.

(01:02:54):
You don't know him.
So he's named Mr Beast.
Mr Beast, I don't know, it wassome random guy.
He was like, well, I'll pay you.
I was like maybe I should tryand, you know, get like a little
side hustle with it, but Ididn't bother doing it.

Colby (01:03:08):
I think you would be a great editor, Like others
there's.
I think you could do it.
That could be a great sidehustle man and it would be
pretty fun.
I think I mean I'm bad.
I'm working on a video now.
That's over an hour long andit's my Tarkov journey from like
to level 15 and level 15 iswhen you unlock the flea market
and it's like over an hour longand I want to die.

(01:03:28):
I think you'd be good at it,yeah.

Chris (01:03:35):
It's just that I don't know.
It's been something I've beendoing since I was like a kid, so
I guess I adapted to it.
I don't know.
I always like seeing them.

Colby (01:03:45):
They're always.
They're always funny.
But I want to do a littletransition, get into.
I kind of want to talk aboutanime, but I'm so uncultured I
don't even know how I'm going tobe able to.

Chris (01:03:57):
If you talk about anime with me, it's gonna be very
Abnormal of me.
I guess I don't know, I don't,I don't like, I don't like
putting myself in like General,like the generic audience of a
weeaboos.
I guess I do not like thesepeople.
I don't like.
I like anime, it's just I don'tlike, I don't like the

(01:04:18):
community at all.
A lot of people like I meanlike all these these conventions
and stuff, cuz I go to theseconventions and it's just like
it's your stereo.
Like you see the stuff onlinelike stereotypical stuff.
It's not stereotypical, it'sreal.
Like I walked into.
I walked into a guy dressed upas Tanjiro from Demon Slayer at

(01:04:39):
a hentai booth browsing hentai,blu-ray, hentai.
You know typical, likeextremely overweight.
You know not taking care ofhimself is it's, it's it's it's
it's scary.
But you get, you get a lot.
You get a lot of good peopletoo, like normal people.
You know individuals that Likethis as a hobby and that don't

(01:05:02):
ingest it as their entire life.

Colby (01:05:04):
Yeah, there's a lot of fedora memes.
Yeah, I well, I literally onlywatched Demon Slayer and Sort of
online.
So I'm super.
I'm bad with TV shows, butyou've been to a lot of
comic-cons, right?
Yeah, I mean, when was the lastone you went to the?
One last year nice, I haven'tbeen there in forever.
Was it like super changed fromCOVID, or was it like normal

(01:05:26):
again?
So they went back to normal?

Chris (01:05:29):
Like I like it was before COVID.
I didn't go like during likethe first two years of COVID.
I went back in 22 and like thatwas when that was like kind of
like the last year, when theywere treating it as like a COVID
emergency kind of event andthat it didn't feel like it

(01:05:49):
because it was really overpacked, still gotcha and man.
Oh, like last year, like it wasalright, it wasn't, it was, it
was better than 2022.
But, um, I remember I sat inline for maybe like three or
four hours to go to a finalfantasy panel, just so Matt
Mercer can say oh yeah, I'mplaying this guy in final
fantasy.
How was your experience meetingMatt Mercer?

(01:06:11):
Did you lock up?
No, no, I just, I just saw himon stage.

Colby (01:06:16):
I was like front row.

Chris (01:06:18):
I was like kind of far away from him and he was just
sitting there he was.
He was hosting the whole event,so he was just talking about.
He was talking to the cast ofthe people and, no, I, actually
I accidentally um Bumped intothe uh, I think I was like, um,
no, I, actually I accidentallyum bumped into the uh voice

(01:06:40):
actor that plays cloud Because,uh, when me and Rebecca were
there, there was this coupletrying to take a picture in
front of the, the giant posterthey had.
So Rebecca goes up to them.
She's like, oh, I can, I cantake you guys this picture, and
uh, so like they're like, oh,thank you, thank you.
So like she took the pictureand she's like sitting there,
like constantly taking thepicture.
I'm looking at Rebecca andshe's like, she's like her mouth

(01:07:01):
is a gate.
I'm like what's going on?
I look over at the the coupleand the voice actor, cloud comes
and she, he's talking to the,um, the the couple, and I'm
sitting there like star strong,like I'm standing.
I'm like, please, I want totalk to you.
Her back is like Chris, wegotta go.
They're kicking us out.

Colby (01:07:24):
I, that's, that's really awesome, man, I, I.
When I went to the one comiccon, they were charging like
$500 to meet Tom Hiddleston.
That's a, that's his name,right, loki, yeah, yeah, I mean,
sometimes you just want me oridols not pay a grand for 10
seconds.
We ever back him at TomHiddleston.

(01:07:45):
It's wild.
I'm happy, though.
I bet it was a good experience.
Was it expensive?
How much was it when you did it?
Because when we were, when Iseen the line, maybe it's
cheaper if you do it ahead oftime, but it was like $500 on
site.

Chris (01:07:58):
I think it was like 300.
Oh, I'm just to get a, just toget a picture.

Colby (01:08:03):
I would have did that.
See, I think my threshold islike 400.
I would.
I would have dropped 300.
I would have said something,the stupid, like what's up.

Chris (01:08:11):
Yeah, now I don't like doing um Autographs anymore
because it's too expensive andit's like I I don't get into
like deep conversations withthem.
I just say, oh hey, how's itgoing.
I just get the fancy picturewith their signature and stuff
and I come home and I just Iframe it and I put it on a
drawer and I never see it again.

Colby (01:08:29):
Hey, that's the same with all my diplomas.
I get them and I never look atthem again.

Chris (01:08:33):
Yeah.

Colby (01:08:35):
Awesome, I think.
Uh, we touched base on a lotthere, um, so I think I want to
transition over.
We already touched on a littlebit, but education in co vid.
I might have foreshadowed thiswith you a little bit before,
but I kind of how, how is itgoing?
How has school changed for you?
How is how's college life afterco vid?

Chris (01:08:56):
um.
So after co vid, so like Beforeco vid.
You know we had, you know wehad.

Colby (01:09:06):
I guess I should.
I should ask what you're doingbefore, like what do you go to
school for?
I forgot to ask.

Chris (01:09:11):
Oh, uh.
So I go to school for acomputer networking basically
just like it was like, so likebasics of it, just like get
certifications.

Colby (01:09:21):
And then get a job.

Chris (01:09:23):
Awesome, awesome, it is fun, but um but, uh, before that
, um, like when you know, whenwe were me and you were going
and when we had all these peoplethat we were with, uh, I was
doing, like you know, theradiology stuff, and then co vid
happened, and then I wentonline.
We went online and then, uh, Itook a, was, I took a like a

(01:09:45):
semester off and then I wentback and I was like Considering
whether or not I wanted tochange my major because I felt
like I wasn't going anywherewith my old one.
So I changed and then, like thepast two years, I've been, uh,
I'm almost done with it nowfinally, but I've just been
doing.
You know, I'm doing my need todo with that.
And then, uh, but, like, on myway back from being online, they

(01:10:10):
encouraged everybody to go backin person and it was like Very
spread out, you know youcouldn't get a seat anywhere.
I was sleeping in my car and Ifinally broke that habit last
semester.
Um, but like, since, uh, whatwas?
I think it was Late last, earlylast year, 23.

(01:10:31):
I think it was.
They went fully back to normal,meaning like everything has
opened up.
You don't have to go throughlike temperature checks
everywhere you go.
You don't have to go throughcheck-ins for, like, the library
it's.
It's like completely the way itwas before covid.
But Unfortunately, time does goon and when you're in college

(01:10:54):
for quite a while, you see a lotof things change, especially
with the student body and, um, alot of them are like six years
younger than me, five yearsyounger than me, and I don't
click with them very well.
So I just go to school and ICome home and on uh, let's say

(01:11:18):
I'm feeling a little bit wild.
I go to the library and studyfor like three hours.
Yeah, when I'm feeling a littleedgy, I like to do some work at
the library.

Colby (01:11:24):
I like to push in their chairs if.

Chris (01:11:28):
I'm feeling really dangerous.

Colby (01:11:31):
But yeah, no, it's like it's been.

Chris (01:11:33):
It's been normal for like the past year.
Now they, uh, they got rid ofthe, uh, the vaccination mandate
.
Um, anybody can go.
There's no limits on anything.
Oh, um, they, they're gettingbetter food now.
I forgot to mention that.
So, yeah, I think I'm gonna goto the library.
I forgot to mention that soapparently in the yeah,

(01:11:55):
apparently remember how, in the,the rally building, there used
to be that micro market.

Colby (01:11:59):
Uh, that one based the big room right with the stage
and stuff.

Chris (01:12:03):
It was, uh, that fancy building.

Colby (01:12:06):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Chris (01:12:08):
So they had like that self-service, like micro mark
thing kind of thing.
Yeah, we're in that, pabloEscobar, that guy, yeah yeah,
yeah, I know we're talking aboutso, um, last semester they got
rid of it and it was just likean empty, like void.
There was no food.
Now, last semester it was uh,last year, last, uh spring

(01:12:31):
semester.
So last semester I wasn't incampus at all.
That semester I was doing likeinternships and stuff.
So, um, from what I heard fromthe grapevine being my literal
email called the grapevine Uh,uh, they, they.
We talked about like the grandopening for, uh, a new.

(01:12:52):
It wasn't a restaurant, it'slike a like a cafeteria kind of
thing, but it's dumped through athird party.
So now, like they're doing all,like actual food it's not like
snacks and stuff, like they'reactually cooking food for them.
But um, and then the, uh, theshepherd building.
They got rid of uh the micromark there and I think they're
putting in one of those, thosekinds of services, in the uh,

(01:13:13):
the basement of that place toonow.

Colby (01:13:16):
I honestly think that is going to do amazing things for
the campus.
It's going to be honest withyou.
I noticed Not the sidetrack, um, at newpulse they have element
91, which is like a restaurant,and then they have A starbucks
and then they have, uh, like alittle restaurant in the cat.
Um, the library, and I'venoticed it does a lot of things

(01:13:40):
for community.
So I feel like that mightchange the vibe a lot.
There's actually, oh yeah,something nice because the micro
marks man, like it's the mostdepressing shit ever.
People are lined up to get withsoup and crackers and off brand
for $10.

Chris (01:13:53):
It's literally.

Colby (01:13:54):
Every I would go.
I would like, after class, belike man.
I'm really hungry.
What do I got?
Oh, the food trucks not here,and half the time when they are
there.
They don't accept card anyway.
By the way, you're on a collegecampus, why do you not accept
card?
So I meander my way over to thescience building, go down there
and the fridge is empty andthere's just fucking cheese
sticks.
I'm like, oh, this is good.

Chris (01:14:16):
The only place that has the micro mark still is in the
biotech building.
Because, uh, today I wentspeaking, like you know, soup
being, like you know, like uh,ramen soup being $10, I wanted
to go get like a one of thosecaffeinated coffee Chocolate
bars.

Colby (01:14:30):
Oh, the um, um, what was it called?
I'm a thing, I might know whatyou're talking about.

Chris (01:14:34):
I forgot the name.
I just saw it by the the way itlooked.
I think I forgot it was cold.
Oh, was it called a week?
Rebecca's telling me awake.
Yes, oh, my god, I live offthose fucking things.
Um, yeah, no, it's like threebucks now for like a little
chocolate.
Oh, it's three dollars now,holy shit.
I was like, well, I'm downthree bucks now, but at least

(01:14:57):
I'm a little uh, my hunger is alittle bit uh satisfied.

Colby (01:15:00):
I all right, I I love awake bars man.
I absolutely.
I would get one like every daythat I was at new paltz for like
more than five hours.
Those things work.

Chris (01:15:12):
I think so because I've been awake all day.

Colby (01:15:15):
Hey, I like you've been awake all day from having an
awake bar.

Chris (01:15:18):
Yeah, they're good too.

Colby (01:15:19):
They're like, they're not super horrible for you in there
, they're pretty good.

Chris (01:15:24):
But um yeah, no everything there is.
This it's.
It's going good for the newgeneration.
Not for me, though I don't likeanybody.

Colby (01:15:34):
What I've noticed.
I, when I was at, when I wasthere with you, I was really
excited Because, like, I wassuper excited to get to new
paltz because I was so tired ofbeing at that school, because I
was really tired of the studentsbeing mad and Pissy all the
time.
What's my analogy?
No, I think I had a great timethere In terms of the students.

(01:15:54):
Sorry, I reversed it.
At that school I felt like thestudents were better.
And then I got to new paltz andthe students were atrocious but
the, the, the staff was better.
You know what I mean.

Chris (01:16:04):
It like completely flipped, because I can, I can
rant about it, but no, I think,my, I think, my thing is like
I've been there so long I'm justsick of everybody.

Colby (01:16:20):
I don't blame you, bro, I I'm telling you, man, I was
there with new paltz.
I was that last semester, Ithought it was.
I've only ever screamed at aclassroom three, two times.
Sorry, two times in myeducational career.
I only remember one of them.
But my last semester was testedme.
Everybody's political at theschool that I went to I'm pretty

(01:16:40):
sure I already said the name.
So I at new paltz.
When I went there, everyone wassuper political, everyone
didn't want to be there.
If you expressed any opinionyou were gonna get beat up.
Yeah, they had protests oncampus that were loud as hell
for events, world events you canprobably guess out of the three

(01:17:02):
world events going on, whichone?
they were protesting, of course,and I thought I was gonna die.
And there was to, like thecherry on top, that really
expressed how bad the studentsnot all of them there was there
was it's a, it's a majority, butthere's a really good minority
that are great.
There was one day it wasraining and I'm walking into the

(01:17:23):
student union building, whichis like a giant metal triangle,
and it was raining.
I don't know why that you mightnotice this too.
I don't know why people don'tbring umbrellas when it's
raining and they get reallypissy about it.
We all have phones, we can lookat the weather, but oh, it was
raining and I said hi to thisguy.
I was like, hey, good morning.
He just started cursing me outbecause he had no umbrella.

(01:17:43):
It's wild, but I I actually Imissed where you are now.
I missed that college when Iwas leaving newpals because I
was so tired of it.
I was I'm right there with you,man.

Chris (01:17:57):
I was like I, I think it just might be a generational
thing.
I know I sound like a boomer, Iknow I sound like an old man,
yeah, we're really.
I think.
I think it's just.
I think it's just like agenerational thing.
I think we hit that cusp oflike where everything just
changed and like Younger peoplewere brought up into like the

(01:18:20):
way the world is now.
Yeah, and it's just.
I.
I think it might be like theydon't know, I don't know it's,
it's, it's different, you knowit's not like it's gonna be
interesting.
It's not the.
It's not the same as it wasbefore, because it's like the
way people are now.
You know, yeah, it's, it'sweird.

Colby (01:18:44):
Yeah, I totally, I totally understand that.
I'm really interested to seeand I talked about this at my
old job the the effect of covidon the people that were
essentially born and raised incovid, because covid was like
two and a half three years,that's.
That's still like.
If you're already like oldenough to think free, if you're,

(01:19:05):
you know there's an age you'rea baby and then there's a.
There's a point where you gainfree will and then everything
hits different.
It's just like you're sittingin preschool and then you reach
that cusp and you're looking atthe toys you're playing with and
you're just having anexistential crisis because now
you have free will and thepeople that were like at that
stage when covid happened.

(01:19:26):
Like Online schooling mess a lotof people up.
Like I just see in a post ofeverybody, literally an entire
high school population wasleaving their high school
because the high school bannedphones and after graduating from
new, everybody was on theirphone, even at new post and was
so infuriating.

(01:19:47):
So I completely I don't knowthe whole situation there, but I
understand I likely canunderstand the school's decision
for that, but online schoolreally messed up a lot of people
and the in class environmenteven had a four year university
institution, the know everybodylost how to act like a person in
class.
It was that.
Did you have the sameexperience?

Chris (01:20:08):
No, I wouldn't say that, because a lot of my classes were
like maybe like four to fivepeople.
But like I see it like walkingby in other classes, like
walking by it through otherclasses, seeing other classes
how they operate and stuff, I'mgetting that like my third
person point of view.
It's, it's, it's the way peopleyeah, it's like the way people

(01:20:32):
act is like I don't know.
I don't know how to, how tolike explain it.
It's just nothing.
It's rules, the same anymore.
Yeah, it's like people lost.
People lost their commoncourtesy.

Colby (01:20:45):
Yeah, totally agree, and I for like three semesters,
because my first semester atthat school, at New Paul's I
already said I'm going to keepsaying it, come dox me.
I guess my first semester therewas fantastic.
Every other semester after thatwas horrible.

(01:21:06):
Everyone just couldn't act likea human being, like you.
It's.
It's your favorite catchphrase.
I like it when you say it'slike it feels like you're living
in a video game and everybody'san NPC.
That's what it felt like,because everybody just didn't
know how to be a human being.
Yeah, like it was.
Like it was preschool Everyone.
It was literally preschool.
I couldn't believe it.
Like people would complain whenthere was a final exam.

(01:21:29):
I'm like just like they wouldcomplain when there's homework.
Everyone just forgot how to bea student like what was it?

Chris (01:21:41):
last Friday I was in the library, I had to get, I had to
catch up on a bunch ofassignments and so I was there
for like maybe like three, fourhours.
And so I'm sitting there and,like you know how the library
has like those like those singlecubicle kind of things, so I
was sitting in one of thoseright next to the like one of
the tables in between thebookshelf, the book aisles and

(01:22:05):
stuff, and I see this girlsitting over there and I hear
her like constantly shufflingaround.
So me being, you know, paranoidall the time, I just look over
him because you know, every, Ilook at everybody thinking that
you know, someone's probablygoing to shoot up the place.
That's just.
That's just how this is it'sAmerica.

Colby (01:22:27):
It's America.

Chris (01:22:29):
I always look at people just in case you know someone's
going to pull fast one.
But I'm like, I'm like, I'mcorning my eye to like try and
see her and she's filming aTiktok.
Oh God, she's filming herselflike a read books.

Colby (01:22:45):
Oh God, yeah, yeah.
So like I feel bad using mycamera because I have, you know,
the whole influencer camera setlike the poll you put your
phone on.
That's a selfie stick, but Idon't do it for cringy shit,
like I do it for my brand.

(01:23:05):
Yeah, I feel bad using itbecause everyone's like Tiktok.
I mean, if you more power toyou, absolutely no problem with
it, but the library, that's alittle weird.

Chris (01:23:17):
It's just, it's crazy yeah.

Colby (01:23:23):
Moral of story Schools crazy, I see that.

Chris (01:23:25):
I see that I've been seeing that at Ock like all the
time, not all the time.
I see it frequently.
It's, it's, I just.

Colby (01:23:36):
I don't like it.
Yeah, it's bad.
You're almost out, though.
You're almost there, you'll befree.
Yeah, yeah, I'm getting there.

Chris (01:23:43):
I'm 97% done.
You're 100% done according to adegree work.

Colby (01:23:49):
I'm very excited for you.
It's going to be, it's going tobe a big moment.
I am I.
After I graduated, I needed tofind a replacement because the
school gave me structure, so Ineeded to replace it with all
this crazy stuff that I'm doing.
So I think I'm excited for you,man.
It's going to be great for youto be out and not have to worry.

Chris (01:24:08):
I just, I just want to just establish myself and just
live the rest of my life,hopefully, normally, yeah, I get
drafted to Ukraine, or Israelor South Korea, depending on, or
Taiwan, or wherever the theaterof war takes us, or Texas to

(01:24:28):
fight on the front lines.

Colby (01:24:30):
It's crazy.

Chris (01:24:32):
Wait for the Eastern colonies of.

Colby (01:24:33):
America it's so wild, man it's wild.
I I think we're almost at anhour and a half.
I'm trying to think we prettymuch hit everything.
I think more of the story thereis, you know, schools just wild
right now.

Chris (01:24:55):
Schools crazy.

Colby (01:24:56):
I have actually everything's crazy, everything's
wild and the best part, no onecan afford a house, of course.

Chris (01:25:06):
I didn't get into the housing market at age seven.
Literally.

Colby (01:25:10):
I love.
It's crazy, it's a shame.
Everyone's like blaming.
I'm trying not to say likegenerational titles, but
essentially everyone that'solder is like you kids, you're
so lazy, you're not doing enoughwork.
What do you mean?
You can't afford a house.
I bought a house with my apple.
I'm sorry I didn't invest inthe housing market when I was in

(01:25:30):
middle school.
I'm really sorry about that.

Chris (01:25:33):
I bought my house in 1978 for two thousand three hundred
dollars.
I did it's wild.

Colby (01:25:40):
I bought my four bedroom house and my five cars.
I had a thought, but now I lostit.
Oh yeah, so I'm totally not theproduct concept one in the
beginning of this episode, butit's okay.
I, my family, listens to anundescripted news station and so

(01:26:03):
what enough?
Yes, you are.

Chris (01:26:06):
You are correct.

Colby (01:26:08):
And my grandmother listens to them quite a lot and
I have to stay over at house attimes when my parents want the
weekend or whatever.
And there was one time I wasover there and I'm unfortunately
I was forced to listen becausethey didn't have my headphones.
So I was literally likepainfully dying as I was trying
to work on my book and the guy Ithink it was Carl Tucker, I

(01:26:29):
think that's his name.
I only know his name becausehe's in fury.
Oh, what's his name?
Well, tucker Colson.
Yeah, exactly, this guy was likescreaming, like a call of duty,
pregame lobby, like sayingbecause they were, and fun facts
side, little side, fun factthis, this undescripted news

(01:26:50):
station that starts with an F,is not actually officially
labeled as a news station.
They're labeled asentertainment so they don't have
to fact check their sources andtheir stories.
Just a little.
I learned that and made it.
Made a lot, made a lot of sensewhen I heard it they were doing
the story of it was like thishe was screaming like these kids

(01:27:11):
are so lazy, they're bringingtheir parents to interviews
there, they're living with theirparents until they're 30.
They only have one job and it'slike oh, just do some, look at
a chart, look at a graph andlook at the basic annual income
of a normal American, like themost stereotypical American.
Just look at their income andit's not considering anything
else.
You would need to work like 20jobs to afford a bedroom.

(01:27:34):
People are buying houses onAmazon because they're cheaper,
like the small home, so you canput together.

Chris (01:27:42):
I want you, if I, if I ever start a podcast, that's
going to be my whole personaTucker Carlson.
I'm going to be like TuckerCarlson.
I'm going to be like Bill Burrevery time he goes on.
Kony, joe Rogan, joe Rogan,come out with the most unhinged
statements.
Do you think you know?

(01:28:03):
People get people wear watchesnow, but at some point in the
future they're going to want tointegrate it in their wrists.

Colby (01:28:11):
Speaking of that, hear me out, I the whole thing with the
brain, whatever it's calledmusk link, I don't know what
it's called.
That is a very interesting.
It definitely feels likecyberpunk.
I feel like if anyone else wasdoing it, if it wasn't musk, I
feel like it might have been alittle bit less scary, right,

(01:28:32):
because, like the goal of it islike help people with
disabilities.
I can't normally, butunfortunately the guy doing it
is like I don't know.

Chris (01:28:39):
I was doing a.
I was doing like a decentamount of research on that for
like a whole week, because I'mpretty sure I'm mentally damaged
Me too.
I think we all are apparently,according to Elon, according to
Mr the musk.
Daddy, musk, if you must daddymusk.
So his mission statement forthat is that he wants to make it

(01:29:02):
for like people you know,paraplegics, you know people
that can't control their limbsand stuff they want.
He wants to like make a makeyour brain a mouse cursor,
essentially, so you just likecontrol a computer via Bluetooth
and do whatever.
But according to him, he wantsto like eventually make it so
that we can interact with AI andstuff.

(01:29:25):
He wants to make a side.
He's a big fan of cyberpunk, sohe wants to make it like you
know, make it cyberpunk andstuff.
But like, according to like theactual scientists and
researchers that were working onit, they're like it's all just
hype, it's literally just gonnabe a mouse cursor for people
that can't move anything.

(01:29:47):
There was this one video I waswatching where the guy was like
he was like a big, like he's bigin the, the brain chips and
stuff.
But like he was talking abouthow the neural link was unique
to other like previous builtbrain chips.
Is that because this one'swireless and it uses Bluetooth
rather than just being wired,that it's a, it's a lot faster?
But he was saying that like forus to like, be like in that

(01:30:13):
cyberpunk kind of world is gonnatake like maybe like a century
or less, maybe, to understandyou know the actual
functionalities of the brain andyou know, not like just do it
blind, because that's gonna it'sgonna kill a lot of people.
It's like so big.
Yeah, like my, my like opiniontowards it is like it's all hype

(01:30:37):
and it's like Elon Musk.
Just you know, his ex-wife wasin cyberpunk.
He likes cyberpunk.

Colby (01:30:43):
My man is a fire here.
He played Fatem Liberty.
He snapped his fingers.
He was like I want to make thisreal.

Chris (01:30:52):
He turns, it was because, like you know what I got, an
idea Hear me out brain dance?
I have no idea.
Let me buy out a company realquick.

Colby (01:31:07):
Then change their entire name.
I think, how about we talk?
How about we end on cyberpunk?
I feel like that is a very goodand happier, even though the
game world is depressing thing.
And you played all of cyberpunk, right yeah, all right, how do
you like it?
I loved it.

Chris (01:31:27):
Despite everybody hating it when it came out and like
going through all that, that,that nightmare that it was when
it came out, I still enjoyed it.
Like, even though I didn't geta lot of crashes and bugs I had
a car literally get launched inthe air in mid-mission and I
died but I still like, despite,like me, constantly having to

(01:31:47):
restart the game, I enjoyed thestory.
I really love the story and youknow, like, ever since you know
2020, they, they fixed it andeverything it's been doing.
Really great, I continue tolove it.
It's probably one of the my top10 games of the whole time.

Colby (01:32:04):
I'm right there with you, I think.
Sorry, I didn't mean to cut youoff there if you were still
going, trying to thought oh yeah, I think cyberpunk has one of
the best comeback story next tono man's sky.
There's no man's skies comeback and there's cyberpunk's
come back, and they're bothbreathtaking.
Like, I'm right there with you.

(01:32:25):
My top 10 game list is veryhard to break into, but
cyberpunk really broke into it,especially after Phantom Liberty
.
That game, especially at DLC,made me feel emotions and course
, like you know the song thateveryone cries about, I really
want to stay at your house, so Idid.
I don't know who did youromance in your playthrough?

(01:32:45):
Did you do any romances, judy?
Okay, good, then you'll knowexactly so.
Judy is.
I mean, judy is pretty hot.
So after I finished, like youknow, your spoiler for anyone
who hasn't played it.
But when you're doing herromance mission where he likes
also really good mission, justlike the feel zone man, and just

(01:33:09):
like when you're swimmingthrough the ocean and you're
reliving memories and you havethe the NSFW scene.
But when I was leaving after Icompleted the mission, that
fucking song came on.
It was perfectly timed and yetit makes.
I don't know what ending.
You beat Phantom Liberty right.

(01:33:29):
Are you gonna replay PhantomLiberty?

Chris (01:33:33):
I probably am one of these days, because I kind of
got like a.
I kind of got like a very dudof an ending, because I made you
can.

Colby (01:33:43):
You can spoil.
What ending did you get,because I want to see if it's
the same.
So again, spoiler warning foranybody.

Chris (01:33:48):
So what's her name so me, betrayed me, you know, lied to
me saying that she could,exactly.
I went against Reed.
And then so me and so me, we'regoing to the, we're gonna go to
the moon and try and supposedlyfix the brain chip in my, my
cranium.
And that's when she came outand said yeah, no, it's not for
you, it's actually for me, I'mdying.

(01:34:09):
So I was like you know what Imean?
Pick up.
And so I gave, I gave her toread and reads.
Like you know, I'll keep intouch, we'll get you with the
CIA, I'll get you to Europe atsome point.
Just, you know, give me a call,I'll give you a call one of
these days.
And it just ended like that.

(01:34:29):
I was like, oh, I was probablylike the most anti-climactic
ending.
I can go.

Colby (01:34:35):
I'm not, you need you need to play again.
I'm telling you I.
So there's.
I'm not gonna tell you what it,but there's three or four
endings.
Look, I got the new base gameending.
Highly recommend trying tofigure out how you can unlock
that.
Very, very I mean I wanted tojump off a roof, but very good,
I see.
No, but that that that's whatread.

(01:34:57):
Phantom Liberty is like fuckingphenomenal.

Chris (01:35:00):
That was so good, like apparently there was an update I
didn't know about that theycould change Johnny's appearance
.

Colby (01:35:09):
Really.

Chris (01:35:10):
Because there was this.
There was a video I saw onInstagram and the guy was
talking to Johnny and he lookedlike he looked like a like Neo's
outfit from the Matrix and I'mlike, oh, I must be a mod.
So I looked it up andapparently they they did an
update where you could give themdifferent appearances.

Colby (01:35:30):
I didn't know that was a.

Chris (01:35:32):
Thing.

Colby (01:35:32):
Every time CD Projekt Red has said their this is our last
update for Cyberpunk, they makeanother one.

Chris (01:35:39):
Oh, because you know now the aren't they working on the
Witcher 4 now?

Colby (01:35:42):
Yeah, they're working on the Witcher 4 and Project Oren,
which is the next Cyberpunk.
I think, because of how wellCyberpunk did, we're going to
see Project Oren, or whateverthey're going to call it, in a
lot quicker time scale than wedid with Cyberpunk 2077, taking
like our entire life to come out.
So I'm very excited, man.

(01:36:03):
That game was phenomenal and Ithink you have the same music,
but the music that plays at theend of Phantom Liberty, that
like action music.
oh my God, I'm pretty sure it'sthe same, no matter what ending,
you get my the one that I chew.
I went with Reed but the musicplayed.
Oh my God, I played that shiton loop.

(01:36:24):
Great game, I'm so excited.
I'm also really excited for theWitcher 4, because I love the
Witcher and I'm reading thebooks and I'm almost done with
the series.

Chris (01:36:34):
See, I tried getting into the Witcher.
I did, Rebecca got into it morethan me and I couldn't.
It was too.
It was too long for me, I guessI don't know.
It was long I don't have thatattention span.

Colby (01:36:50):
I don't blame you, man, trust me, I'm weird with the
Witcher.
I started it, stopped it,started it, stopped it, started
it got like 20 hours, no, likefive, six hours in stopped it
and like my fourth or fifth timeplaying it, I stuck with it and
I basically it was basicallylike putting an IV drip into my
vein and now I live and breathethe Witcher.
But it's not.

(01:37:11):
It's a weird game.
It's definitely, it's long,it's really weird.

Chris (01:37:18):
Oh no, that's what it was .
So I got into, like my, Ifinally got into a sex scene and
then I put it down.
That's what it was.
That's what it was.
That's what I lost.
And it wasn't even a majorcharacter, it was one of the
side characters.
I like it.

Colby (01:37:36):
If you.
There's a funny thing with thatgame where if you sleep with
all of the characters, youbasically you get a cuck ending.
They actually like thedevelopers accounted for that
and they're like we're going tomake Yana for like essentially
cuck you.

Chris (01:37:56):
See the consequence yeah.

Colby (01:37:59):
That's.
Those are the RPG decisionsthat gamers want.

Chris (01:38:02):
It's like kind of similar with a Persona five, where you,
you romance every underage girl, you romance.
So you know, romance theunderage girls, the, the, the
very overage women.
It's, it's wild.

Colby (01:38:18):
That just says the cops directly.
Do they just send the cops toyour door?
They should.

Chris (01:38:27):
But apparently.
No, apparently, if you romanceeverybody on Valentine's Day,
they all get you a gift and theymeet up with you in the same
spot.
There's like 14 of them andthey all, they all jump you.
Yeah, that's fitting, I lovethat.

Colby (01:38:39):
But yeah, cyberpunk is a great game Masterpiece.
Looking forward to that.

Chris (01:38:50):
I think I that game tried getting.
I tried getting into thetabletop but no one wanted to
play with me.
He just kept saying oh, it'srobot D and D.
I'm like no, it's cyberpunk,you know, you wouldn't get it.

Colby (01:39:02):
I am down.
I actually have the entire PDF,pdf of the rulebook, and I've
been trying to find people playwith too, because if anyone, if
anyone, wants to say it's robotD and D, I don't know if they
know that Starfinder exists,which is literally science
fiction.
Pathfinder and Pathfinder camefrom D and D.

Chris (01:39:19):
It looks like.
I tried, I tried getting theoriginal one from the 80s and
apparently that's going on forlike $400.
Holy crap, and that was beforecyberpunk got like huge.
The game is like so God knowshow much it costs now.
That's crazy and I'm scalpers.

Colby (01:39:38):
I'm really glad that this , the game did well and the
genre is coming out because sucha good game.
We really need good singleplayer story games Really do
they're so they're so far inbetween to go all the way back
to the beginning of aconversation.
Everything is live service.
Like single player games are sorare to come by that are good,
at least from the Western market.
They're mostly like JRPG islike JRPG is having some pretty

(01:39:59):
good stories.
I just can't play them.

Chris (01:40:02):
No, like uh, I'm playing the Persona 3 remake and that
game the original one was like110, now was maybe, and they've
been.
They've been working on thisgame since 2019.
So I think it's probably thesame, maybe more on the new one,
the remake one.
It's wild.

Colby (01:40:24):
It's wild Well.
I think I just make sorry, no,you're good, I think we'll wrap
it up, because we're actually atan hour and 40 and that's a
really good time.
Um, what I like to do goingforward and I'm going to this
for my brother's podcast I'mgoing to put you on the hot seat
, and if you don't, if you don'thave anything to say, that's
completely okay, but with, like,if you wanted to leave the

(01:40:48):
audience off with any words ofwisdom or a thought, what would
it be?
Um, or it's a wisdom, or justlike, what would you?
What would you leave theaudience with as we close out?

Chris (01:41:01):
Just uh, live your life, live your life uh, keep on
pushing.

Colby (01:41:08):
I like it.
Live your life, do what youlove, try to make every day,
every day count.
Yeah, pretty much.

Chris (01:41:15):
Don't try not to worry about anything.
That's what I'm trying to workon, but uh, you know I have
severe anxiety issues, so it'sit is what it is, you know
completely understandable andeverything is always fear
tactics.

Colby (01:41:27):
But of course, yeah, I appreciate you coming on, my
friend.
It's been a good episode andthank you all for listening and
feel free to uh to follow somelike subscribe.
Drop me a comment in theYouTube comments section.
Oh, but if you, if you enjoyedit, feel free to give give me a
follow and I'll see you in thenext episode.
Goodbye everybody.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:41:49):
yeah, yeah.

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