October 29, 2024 • 27 mins
Imagine transitioning from a traditional medical career to holistic health, driven by personal health battles. That's the incredible journey of our guest, Nicole, a holistic nutrition practitioner from Chelmsford, Massachusetts. We explore how her struggle with chronic migraines led her to discover holistic methods such as glykinesiology and muscle testing, which have become the cornerstone of her practice, Natural Nutrition and Wellness. Nicole passionately shares how addressing the root causes of health issues, like toxins and inflammation, can make a world of difference—often what conventional medicine overlooks.
Switching gears, we dive into the art of balancing planning and spontaneity during travels. With friends like Brett, who embrace spontaneity, there's much to learn about adaptability and the importance of kindness in our interactions. I also share a personal story about getting my first tattoo at 18, a heartfelt tribute to my late grandmother, which ultimately deepened my connection with my mother. These narratives highlight the value of character and the meaningful bonds we form, whether on the road or in our everyday lives.
And who can resist the allure of European travels and its culinary wonders? From the lively streets of Amsterdam, with its universal English conversations, to the breathtaking landscapes of the Azores, there's an entire world waiting to be explored. We paint a vivid picture of Amsterdam's cultural and culinary scene—stroopwafels, anyone?—and discuss the affordable, leisurely lifestyle that Europe offers. Nicole also shares her own tattoo stories, each one a unique chapter of her life. And if you're curious about the narratives behind her tattoos, don't forget to follow us on Instagram and visit our website for a closer look.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, you're listening to the Ink Tales podcast, a show
where I go out in the city,meet new people and get the
stories behind our tattoos.
I'm Tenoch.
Come join me on my journey.
Today on the show, I'm inChelmsford, Massachusetts, with
my guest, Nicole.
Nicole, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Well, it's good to have you onthe show.
It's going.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Chelmsford, massachusetts, with my guest,
nicole.
Nicole, welcome to the show,Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, it's good to have you on the show.
It's going to be a little bitdifferent today, because not
only are we going to talk aboutyour tattoos, but you also
happen to be dating my coachBrett, and it's kind of an
interview to see if you qualifyto go to our infamous Greece
trip that we're planning to takeon a catamaran.
It's a little bit of both.
(00:47):
It's going to be a get to knowyou and then kind of let's get
to know about your tattoos.
But first, why don't you tellus a little bit about what you
do, who you are, and then we'llgo from there.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So the pressure is on .
So my name is Nicole and I owna holistic nutrition practice
and kind of started in mypractice about two years ago.
Before that I was seeingclients and decided to kind of
shift to owning my own and we donutrition coaching in a form of
glykinesiology, muscle testing-Okay, so can you explain a
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little bit more in detail whatholistic practice is?
explain a little bit more indetail what holistic practice is
.
Yes, so everyone usually comesto us once they've done every
other possible avenue and arelike I don't know what's going
on, I need you to help fix me.
So usually we're working withthem to detox toxins out of the
body, so from immune challengesto chemicals and metals to
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they're not breaking down foodscorrectly, coming up with a
customized program for themwhere we're using whole food
supplementation, herbalsupplements to detox the body
and then to restore what'smissing.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, and what is the name of your business?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Natural Nutrition and Wellness.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And where are you guys located?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
North Andover.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Okay, and you said you've been doing that for how
long?
I've been seeing clients since2019.
And what made you decide to getinto?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
this area of practice .
Basically it started with myown health issues.
So at the time I was in collegeI was studying to do
kinesiology.
I wanted to be an OT.
I started shadowing OTs, then Ishadowed PTs and then I
shadowed PAs and I was like Idon't like anything in this
world.
I don't really know whatexactly I want to do.
(02:34):
So at the time I shifted tonutrition.
I was working at the VA in WestRoxbury and I was seeing what
we were feeding the veterans atthe hospital and I was mortified
.
So from there I kind of doveinto what the other options were
with nutrition.
So I started doing nutrition inthe school systems.
I then ended up getting chronicmigraines.
(02:56):
I went to doctor after doctorafter doctor.
I was like nothing's working.
I don't know what's going tokind of fix this problem.
At that time a family friendowned a practice where they were
doing holistic nutrition.
I went in, saw them, gotstarted on some supplements and
haven't had a migraine in sixyears.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay.
Well, that's incredible,usually when you hear you know
holistic practices.
Most of the time especially, Iwould say, in my personal
experience you're kind of likeyou know, that's kind of the
feeling I get, just becausemainly, I would say, from
ignorance for myself, right,because I don't know anything
about it.
I don't know how it works andsome people rave by it, some
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people don't.
Why do you think that works andwhy do you think it helps
people so much?
What's the difference betweenthat and say, like the regular
kind of medications that you get, what sets you apart or what is
it that really has an effect onpeople?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So basically the big difference is is one getting to
root cause, so figuring outwhat's causing the symptoms in
the first place.
So if you ignore the toxins thatare in the body in excess, you
just keep tipping that body over.
So, for example, every singleday we're exposed to chemicals,
we're exposed to metals, we'reexposed to bacteria, immune
challenges, and so when they'rein the body in that excess
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amount they're going to keepeither stealing your nutrients
from your food or they're goingto be causing inflammation
internally.
So basically, like startingpoint is figuring out, like
what's causing the inflammation.
The other side of it iseverything we use is food-based
or an herb, so when you'reintroducing it to the body, the
body actually recognizes it andknows what to do with it.
So, for example, say, someone'sliver showing up, we're using
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beets, we're using radishes, weuse milk thistle, so it's things
that we could get in our dietsbut most people aren't eating,
or eating enough of to supportthose bodily processes.
So I always say, when we'redoing those small little bits of
nutrition, it's going to helpsupport the body fast, because
the body actually recognizeswhat we're using.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay and you think like regular doctors really
don't dive into that and thefirst thing they do is say
medication.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes.
So most doctors have only hadlike 30 minutes of nutrition,
and so they actually.
We have a lot of doctors whorefer people to us because they
just haven't been trained in it.
Their perspective is more weknow what to do and to put the
fire out, but how do we preventthat fire from happening?
So they'll be like, okay, it'snot, we don't have everything
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showing up on blood work, butthere's still these issues
occurring.
We don't know what to dobecause it's not at that extreme
.
So it's more that preventativemedicine to either prevent
things from exploding or tosupport when it hasn't gotten to
that full-blown explosion.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Okay.
So once you kind of figuredthat out, what really made you
say get your own business?
Like what drove you to that?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
At that point, basically I was.
I wanted to be able to kind ofcreate my own schedule.
I wanted to be able to supportclients the way I wanted to.
I wanted to be able to allowfor pricing to be affordable for
clients that wanted to come in.
I always knew, kind of, one dayI wanted to do it.
It happened a little bit soonerthan I had planned, um, but I
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don't regret it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So completely happy.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, so outside of work, what are the interests
that you have?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So summer I love going boating, water skiing
always usually on the waterthroughout the summer, water
skiing always usually on thewater throughout the summer.
Winter I ski hopefully thisyear I have some time to go um,
and then usually I'm at the gym.
Every single day I enjoy yoga,like walking outside, spending
time with family and friendsokay, that's seems pretty,
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pretty good.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
you seem to have an active lifestyle.
Yes, okay, let's get intosomething a little bit different
.
Tell me how you met Brett Hinge.
Okay, how did your first datego?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It went good.
We went to Copper Door we weretalking about this the other day
he got chicken parm.
I was like how do you rememberexactly what I got?
And we kind of hit it off.
But we obviously work insimilar worlds so we ended up
talking about work a lot.
So now the rule is no work,talk on certain dates because we
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end up going down rabbit holes.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
What was your first impression of him?
Because I would say, from myperspective, he's an acquired
taste.
Once you get to know him, he'sa fantastic guy, but he's an
acquired taste right off the bat, just because I think it has to
do with his profession and howhe deals with people every
single day that I feel he has tokind of put up a small wall and
(07:37):
then you kind of have to breakit down.
But what's your opinion of that?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
No, I would agree.
I think over time his emotionsstart to show, but in the
beginning he very much keepsthem internal and kind of has
that mentality where he'll talkto you more like a client and is
like I'm like, okay, show theemotional side.
So I think pulling the emotionsout slowly has been working.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, but again I do the same thing, right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Because I work with clients all day long.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So how do you feel about this Greece trip that
we're planning?
I'm like we're planning to gofor 10 days.
You're going to be on a boatwith people that you barely know
.
How do you feel about that?
I'm like, obviously we'regetting to know each other now,
right, and we'll hopefully getto spend a little bit more time,
more time with each other tomake it, I'd say, more
comfortable.
But how do you feel at thispoint about that whole idea of
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spending time with random peoplein the middle of the ocean?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So I was warned about the Greece trip before last
weekend.
I was like you're going to getpressured into this.
So one Greece is on my bucketlist for next year.
Anyways, before even I metBrett, so that was kind of an
interesting layup.
I mean, I'm always up for a newopportunity, I'm always up for
exploring.
I love meeting new people.
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I like kind of spending timewith new people, especially that
I haven't met before.
Getting to know them.
Being on a boat doesn't reallyscare me.
It's kind of exciting and beingable to hop from place to place
.
But the biggest thing will bethe planner versus non-planners
right, which is, uh, one of thebiggest things.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Like I would say, janelle and I are planners that
have an idea but don't reallyalways stick to it right.
If we get to it, we get to itbecause we get easily distracted
or we spend more time in someplace and we just want to make
sure that you're good with theflow.
Because I would say from myexperience with brett, the
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reason we like going with brettplaces is because if he's a very
low-key, go with the flow butwe try to hit.
We all have like let's try tohit this.
If we do, we do.
We don't no one's upset, yeah,and I really love that about it.
It's like no one's like oh, wedidn't get to that.
Now we're completely upset andthe vacation's ruined, because
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if I had to deal with peoplelike that all the time, I'd be
like you got to jump off thisboat now.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, I think I'm very much used to like.
You find something and you'relike oh, we're going to stay
here, we're going to spend theday here and you might skip
three places, but it's worth itfor that moment.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay and you're okay with like sharing ideas and you
don't have to be the leader allthe time, because I'm a very
go-with-the-flow kind of person.
Sometimes I like to take chargeon certain things and usually
when I know what I'm talkingabout, when I don't, I don't
really care, unless there'ssomething I really don't like to
do, then I say I don't want todo it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, I'm very much go-with-the-flow when it comes,
especially when someone elsekind of knows where we're going,
what we're doing.
If it's like eyes on me and wehave to figure it out, I'll
figure it out, but I'm more likewhatever we need to do, brett's
very go with the flow, though.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, he's very good at that.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
He's not really a planner.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's why I like him .
Speaker 2 (10:58):
He has like a loose plan.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I don't really plan a lot either.
Janelle does all that.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
You guys will get along just fine.
So you remember last week whenwe were at Brett's party and I
told you that you did somethingthat really resonated with me
and I'm like I like that aboutyou.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yes, but I haven't been told what.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
No, you haven't, Okay .
So we were sitting there andyou got up to go get a drink.
Yeah, the one thing you didthat I thought was really great
is you offered to bring me adrink and I thought that was
very nice and I'm like thatshows a lot of character of who
you are and the type of personthat you are, and I'm like
that's the type of person that Ilike to hang out with, because
you're caring and you'reobservant, right.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah observant.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Right, yeah, and most people aren't like that,
especially nowadays.
They only care about themselvesand like, yeah, whatever.
Or they're like can you give mesomething?
It was very nice.
I was like oh, I like that.
I'm like, okay, that's a verygood sign.
I told brett.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think I told brett I don't even know if he knows.
But no, that's I, that's how,but I'm very.
Also I like to take care ofother people, which sometimes I
put before myself, but I like tomake sure everyone's always
happy and taken care of in asituation.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, and I think, well, I know that the other
reason that I liked it isbecause you're very much like I
am.
Brett will tell you, all thetime I love to share my food, I
love to cook for people.
Like I always like to make surethat other people are having a
good time in there, they havewhat they need.
Like if I'm getting up, I liketo make sure that everybody gets
something.
That's just who I am, that'show I was brought up, that's
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like the structure of my family,like we're always close and if
you're going to get something,you should get something for
everybody else.
So when you did that, I waslike, yeah, that feels really
good.
Oh, my God, that was very nice.
Look at that.
So that was.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
He got a water, by the way I did, it was just the
water.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Even if it was just the water, that's all I needed.
I was like all right, that was,you're in.
And I didn't forget, no, youdidn't, and that basically
solidified your entry, by theway.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
See, I'm already in on grace.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
This was just a formality.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, this is just to dot the I's.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's why To toot his horn, yep, all right.
So let's get to the good stuffTattoos.
So you have what?
How many?
Two, two tattoos?
We're going to go crazy here.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
All right, so let's talk about the very first tattoo
.
How old were you?
Where did not?
Who gave it to you?
But where were you?
What kind of mindset were youin?
Tell me all about it, Like,take me back.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So I was 18, the typical 18-year-old first tattoo
.
My grandmother had passed awaymaybe three or four years
beforehand and when she passedaway, me and my mom talked about
it.
We're like we're going to get atattoo as soon as you turn 18.
So it's kind of that buildup tolike that 18 year old big thing
you can do.
We ended up I think we werejust.
It was like my.
I think it was like the dayafter my 18th birthday, my mom
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was like, all right, you ready,we're going to go get it.
And I was like we're doing it.
My mom, I think, at the timeonly had one or two tattoos and
so she's like I'm going to getit with you.
And I was like, oh, I thoughtthis was just going to be for me
.
So me and her, we went toNashville, new Hampshire, walked
right across the border and wewent in.
We had no real plan.
We kind of were like I wantthis.
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And she was like, well, I wantthis.
So we combined our two ideastogether and it was all supposed
to be in memory for my nana.
So I was like I want seagulls,because we always looked at the
seagulls together, and my mom'slike, well, I want sand dollars.
We always collected sanddollars together, okay.
So we told the artist.
He was like okay, let's sitdown, let's map it out.
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We drew it.
My mom ended up editing it,moving things around, and then
she he was like well, where areyou gonna get it?
And I was like well, I haven'tthought about that yet.
So I ended up deciding to getit on my hip and my mom got it
on her ankle and that was kindof the story behind it okay,
when you got it, how did youfeel about it?
I was excited, um, I feel likeit was like that big adult thing
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you did at age 18, um, thefirst like crazy thing that
happens.
And then I think I think maybeI'm cried too at when we were
done, because it kind of likebrought back.
Like we were just reminiscingabout my Nana we're talking
about all the times we hadtogether so it kind of brought
us back to those days as well.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I was going to ask him like did you feel
emotional while you were gettingit or after it was done?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think afterwards I remember getting it and say I'm
never getting another tattoo,ever again, because it was on my
hip.
So I was like I feel thescraping on my hip, Like I was
in pain the whole time, and thenafterwards we more were like
we're just reminiscing on thetimes together.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Okay, so you look at it now, right.
Usually first tattoos can beiffy, right?
Because you're like most peopledon't know how to really find
the right person.
Make sure that the art is right.
You know you get that first one.
You're like, ah, okay, you lookat it now.
Would you go back and make itbetter or leave it the same, not
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change the design?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
just the execution.
I think the execution was good.
I more probably would havechanged the design.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
so what would you go back and do?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I, I probably would have just done like the sand
dollar or the seagulls and Iprobably would have put it in a
different spot.
Um, even if I did like theseagulls, like I would, I like
where my mom did it she did iton her ankle, okay, but I think
my hip one.
You don't really see it thatoften and even when I'm like
wearing a bathing suit, I'musually hiding it.
Um, I always say now I'm like,ooh, I would go back and get
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more added to it, but I don'tthink it would go as the way I
would want it to.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, tattoo number two.
Tattoo number two.
Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That was another uh on the whim.
So when I I studied abroad, inAmsterdam, I met my friend Emma.
She was from Belgium and wespent like the whole six months
together and she was like I'mgonna get a tattoo this weekend.
I was like, okay, what are yougetting?
She was like I'm gonna getthree x's for Amsterdam and I
was like, okay, she's like.
No, it's like in the flag, it'severywhere on the streets, like
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they just put the x's intothings.
And I'm like, okay, this soundsgood.
Where are you?
No, it's like in the flag, it'severywhere on the streets, like
they just put the X's intothings.
And I'm like, okay, this soundsgood.
Where are you going to get it?
And she was like the back of myarm.
I was like, all right, I'mgoing to come with you.
So I went with her.
We were just in a tattoo shopin downtown Amsterdam, walked in
, I was there for herappointment and I was like do
you guys have time for anotherone?
And they were like, yeah, it'sgoing to take us five minutes to
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do it's three small X's.
So they ended up obviouslyfitting me in and I got it same
day as her.
So we kind of now it's grownover time in its meaning, but in
the moment it was like tosolidify my time in Amsterdam,
my six months together.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And now, what has the meaning become?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
So everyone that asks me about it will be like oh, is
that for your grandmother?
Because my grandmother used towrite like X's and O's on every
card.
She did Okay, I'm one of three,so I have a brother and a
sister.
So everyone card she did okay,my, I'm one of three, so I have
a brother and a sister.
So everyone's like is that foryou, j and d?
And I'm like sure.
So it's kind of built um,what's the other big one that I
think those are like the threethat popped up.
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Some people bring up stripclubs because three x's mean
strip clubs.
That has nothing to do withthat.
Um, but yeah, those are like mygrandmother and then my brother
and sister.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Did you ever find out what the significance of the
X's mean in Amsterdam or on theflag, or why they put it
everywhere Other than they justput it everywhere?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I do not know.
I should probably look intothat one.
It was like everywhere, but themiddle of their flag was the
three X's, so it probably goesback to that is what I'm going
to assume.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, and how was your time in Amsterdam?
Tell me, tell me a little bitabout that, like I've never been
and you know.
Tell us about your experiencethere.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I always say I'm biased, but it is my favorite
place I went to in Europe so far.
Greece could take the cake, butbasically I don't know it was.
It's very.
It's a very, very beautifulcity.
What I liked about it is likeeveryone's on bikes, you're not
driving in a car all the time.
So everywhere I went I wasriding a bike and I came home
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and was like I miss that.
I was outside all the time.
I didn't get in a car, I justwas always transported through
bike.
I traveled basically everyweekend when I was there.
So I went to Belgium, I went toFrance, I went to Ireland.
I kind of jumped around Europe.
But my Monday through Fridaywas in Amsterdam.
You're on canals, there's'sflowers everywhere.
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There's a lot of like historyand museums as well.
To be honest, I probably onlywent to the museums like once or
twice.
I was mostly just riding aroundthe streets.
Um, I would probably move backto at any point how is the
language barrier?
I had a bias, so my my bestfriend that I met there.
She was from Belgium so shespoke the language.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So she kind of was our translator.
When you're in Amsterdam, likein the city, most people speak
English and then they alwayshave a menu where it's always
translated into English.
If we went to a smallerrestaurant, we would bring our
friend Emma and she wouldtranslate.
Smaller restaurant our we wouldbring our friend Emma and she
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would translate.
I started to pick up on somethings but now I've probably
lost everything I learned.
But it was very, um, likeFrance didn't want to translate
for you in Amsterdam.
French hate us, but Amsterdamthey were always like willing to
translate.
We ran into it maybe once ortwice where they weren't always
like willing to translate.
We ran into it maybe once ortwice where they weren't, but
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they were always willing to kindof translate.
The other big thing, um, likecomparatively is it's just such
a slower pace of life soeverything's very slowed down.
Like when my mom came to visit,a dinner could take four hours
and she'd be like why are westill sitting here?
Like why are we still here?
This is taking so long?
I'm like you're supposed to sit, like have your drink, have
your meal, enjoy it.
So I very much love that aboutEurope in general, but Amsterdam
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really was like you sit, youenjoy your meal.
You're not in this go, go, goall the time.
You're soaking everything in.
You're not working all the time.
Even school, like we only tooktwo classes, I was like so I go
to class, maybe like 10 hours aweek, if that that's fine.
Yeah, I came home and was like,oh, this is the reality again,
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like I have to take class, likeI'm in school all the time, so
it's a very different, more likelow-key culture, which I think
was a very good change for meand probably could use it again.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And how was the food?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Food was great.
Amsterdam they're known fortheir stroopwafels.
They're known for theirpancakes.
They have some good apple pie.
Other areas I traveled toobviously had better food that
they were known for, but it wasreally good.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So you highly recommend it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Highly.
Yes, someone goes to Europe.
I'm like you have to go toAmsterdam.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
It's definitely on my list to go.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And you don't need a lot of time, but I would choose
longer time.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
How much time would you recommend to spend there if
you're going on vacation?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
If it wasn't me going back to reminisce on everything
, I would say if you did liketwo to three days, you can get a
good amount done, especially ifyou're staying in the city.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That seems like a reasonable time.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Unless you want to do all the museums, then you want
to do like four to five, but twoto three.
If you're just browsing thecity, okay, if you're doing a
canal tour, they have, um, likea swing.
You can swing over the canals.
There's like fun.
Alternatives, too than sittingin the museums all day well, it
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definitely sounds pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
you get to walk around.
It seems like a very uh easycity to get around, like you
don't need like you said, youdon't need a car.
You, you can just bike or walk,and that's what I like about
Europe.
Yes, that was a very big change.
When I went the first time, itwas like it's so much easier to
get around than here.
Yes, like you don't need a car.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
No, where did you go?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Madrid, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I loved Madrid and then we went to lisbon, okay,
and the azores, oh I want to goto the azores.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Azores were beautiful would you recommend highly how
many days?
Uh, if you're going to theazores, if you're only going to,
like, uh, punto delgada, likethe, the bigger island, I'd say
you could probably geteverything done in three days.
Wow, because it's not a verybig island, but you want to
spend a good amount of timegoing sightseeing, going up to
the mountains, enjoying the food, depending on what time of the
year, going to the beach andstuff.
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Beaches are different, though.
They're very rocky.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
They're not sandy Interesting, but they're very,
very nice.
So when you travel, are youmore of a museum or more of
enjoy the food?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I'm more of enjoy the food, but I also enjoy going to
museums because Janelle likesmore of the museums.
I'm not saying I don't, but I'mmore of a what's the food
situation the culture, the food,the ambiance.
I like to judge a country byfood, but I'll tell you one
thing about the Azores handsdown the most pristine bathrooms
(24:13):
.
You have ever seen in yourentire life interesting white
like white tile everywhere wownever had a bad smell.
Wow, like they had cleaners thatwould clean, like not in the
bathroom, but they would come,like I think the guy said, like
every half an hour they clean.
Wow, the water was so cleanbecause everything is like
volcanic water that comesthrough.
(24:34):
Yeah, you can drink the waterfrom the tap with your hands any
water that's running through astream.
You can just put your waterbottle there wow, that's amazing
, yeah they clean this bathroomthe best I can't even find
anywhere no, and like everybathroom was beautiful, I was
like, wow, this place is great,that's interesting.
And then the food is notexpensive and it's fantastic.
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Like a good bottle of wine waslike 20 euros.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, it's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, that's thedifference between here and
Europe, I think.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Oh yeah, An espresso was like one euro.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, you're like okay, we have espresso every day
.
And never went to Starbucks,yep, no, no, you go to.
Like the little cafes, yeah,little cafes, because they're
way better, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Even in Starbucks, like a latte that you pay $6.22
for here was like two euros.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, Still, they're like nope, we know what to do
here.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, so highly recommended to go there.
Interesting, that's on a bucketlist.
Yeah, all right.
So closing statements.
Once again, why don't you justgive us the details on your
business so everyone who'sinterested can kind of go?
If you have social media pagesfor that, they can look you up.
I think you provide a veryinteresting and beneficial
service.
So anyone listening you cancontact her.
(25:51):
Go ahead and let us know wherethey can find you.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So my Instagram is nutritiouslynicole and then the
business is Natural NutritionWellness.
We post on Natural NutritionWellness almost every day, so
kind of keeping everyone updatedwith some things they can shift
even if they're not seeing us.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
All right, Nicole, thank you for being on the show.
It was wonderful having you.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
All right.
Well, this has been anotherepisode of the Inktales podcast,
and this is your host, tinoch.
I'll see you on the next one.
Thanks for joining me this weekfor another episode.
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Hi, you're listening to the Ink Tales podcast, a show
where I go out in the city,meet new people and get the
stories behind our tattoos.
I'm Tenoch.
Come join me on my journey.
Today on the show, I'm inChelmsford, Massachusetts, with
my guest, Nicole.
Nicole, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Well, it's good to have you onthe show.
It's going.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Chelmsford, massachusetts, with my guest,
nicole.
Nicole, welcome to the show,Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, it's good to have you on the show.
It's going to be a little bitdifferent today, because not
only are we going to talk aboutyour tattoos, but you also
happen to be dating my coachBrett, and it's kind of an
interview to see if you qualifyto go to our infamous Greece
trip that we're planning to takeon a catamaran.
It's a little bit of both.
(00:47):
It's going to be a get to knowyou and then kind of let's get
to know about your tattoos.
But first, why don't you tellus a little bit about what you
do, who you are, and then we'llgo from there.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So the pressure is on .
So my name is Nicole and I owna holistic nutrition practice
and kind of started in mypractice about two years ago.
Before that I was seeingclients and decided to kind of
shift to owning my own and we donutrition coaching in a form of
glykinesiology, muscle testing-Okay, so can you explain a
(01:20):
little bit more in detail whatholistic practice is?
explain a little bit more indetail what holistic practice is
.
Yes, so everyone usually comesto us once they've done every
other possible avenue and arelike I don't know what's going
on, I need you to help fix me.
So usually we're working withthem to detox toxins out of the
body, so from immune challengesto chemicals and metals to
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they're not breaking down foodscorrectly, coming up with a
customized program for themwhere we're using whole food
supplementation, herbalsupplements to detox the body
and then to restore what'smissing.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Okay, and what is the name of your business?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Natural Nutrition and Wellness.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And where are you guys located?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
North Andover.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Okay, and you said you've been doing that for how
long?
I've been seeing clients since2019.
And what made you decide to getinto?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
this area of practice .
Basically it started with myown health issues.
So at the time I was in collegeI was studying to do
kinesiology.
I wanted to be an OT.
I started shadowing OTs, then Ishadowed PTs and then I
shadowed PAs and I was like Idon't like anything in this
world.
I don't really know whatexactly I want to do.
(02:34):
So at the time I shifted tonutrition.
I was working at the VA in WestRoxbury and I was seeing what
we were feeding the veterans atthe hospital and I was mortified
.
So from there I kind of doveinto what the other options were
with nutrition.
So I started doing nutrition inthe school systems.
I then ended up getting chronicmigraines.
(02:56):
I went to doctor after doctorafter doctor.
I was like nothing's working.
I don't know what's going tokind of fix this problem.
At that time a family friendowned a practice where they were
doing holistic nutrition.
I went in, saw them, gotstarted on some supplements and
haven't had a migraine in sixyears.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay.
Well, that's incredible,usually when you hear you know
holistic practices.
Most of the time especially, Iwould say, in my personal
experience you're kind of likeyou know, that's kind of the
feeling I get, just becausemainly, I would say, from
ignorance for myself, right,because I don't know anything
about it.
I don't know how it works andsome people rave by it, some
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people don't.
Why do you think that works andwhy do you think it helps
people so much?
What's the difference betweenthat and say, like the regular
kind of medications that you get, what sets you apart or what is
it that really has an effect onpeople?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So basically the big difference is is one getting to
root cause, so figuring outwhat's causing the symptoms in
the first place.
So if you ignore the toxins thatare in the body in excess, you
just keep tipping that body over.
So, for example, every singleday we're exposed to chemicals,
we're exposed to metals, we'reexposed to bacteria, immune
challenges, and so when they'rein the body in that excess
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amount they're going to keepeither stealing your nutrients
from your food or they're goingto be causing inflammation
internally.
So basically, like startingpoint is figuring out, like
what's causing the inflammation.
The other side of it iseverything we use is food-based
or an herb, so when you'reintroducing it to the body, the
body actually recognizes it andknows what to do with it.
So, for example, say, someone'sliver showing up, we're using
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beets, we're using radishes, weuse milk thistle, so it's things
that we could get in our dietsbut most people aren't eating,
or eating enough of to supportthose bodily processes.
So I always say, when we'redoing those small little bits of
nutrition, it's going to helpsupport the body fast, because
the body actually recognizeswhat we're using.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay and you think like regular doctors really
don't dive into that and thefirst thing they do is say
medication.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes.
So most doctors have only hadlike 30 minutes of nutrition,
and so they actually.
We have a lot of doctors whorefer people to us because they
just haven't been trained in it.
Their perspective is more weknow what to do and to put the
fire out, but how do we preventthat fire from happening?
So they'll be like, okay, it'snot, we don't have everything
(05:21):
showing up on blood work, butthere's still these issues
occurring.
We don't know what to dobecause it's not at that extreme
.
So it's more that preventativemedicine to either prevent
things from exploding or tosupport when it hasn't gotten to
that full-blown explosion.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Okay.
So once you kind of figuredthat out, what really made you
say get your own business?
Like what drove you to that?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
At that point, basically I was.
I wanted to be able to kind ofcreate my own schedule.
I wanted to be able to supportclients the way I wanted to.
I wanted to be able to allowfor pricing to be affordable for
clients that wanted to come in.
I always knew, kind of, one dayI wanted to do it.
It happened a little bit soonerthan I had planned, um, but I
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don't regret it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So completely happy.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, so outside of work, what are the interests
that you have?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So summer I love going boating, water skiing
always usually on the waterthroughout the summer, water
skiing always usually on thewater throughout the summer.
Winter I ski hopefully thisyear I have some time to go um,
and then usually I'm at the gym.
Every single day I enjoy yoga,like walking outside, spending
time with family and friendsokay, that's seems pretty,
(06:37):
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
you seem to have an active lifestyle.
Yes, okay, let's get intosomething a little bit different
.
Tell me how you met Brett Hinge.
Okay, how did your first datego?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It went good.
We went to Copper Door we weretalking about this the other day
he got chicken parm.
I was like how do you rememberexactly what I got?
And we kind of hit it off.
But we obviously work insimilar worlds so we ended up
talking about work a lot.
So now the rule is no work,talk on certain dates because we
(07:11):
end up going down rabbit holes.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
What was your first impression of him?
Because I would say, from myperspective, he's an acquired
taste.
Once you get to know him, he'sa fantastic guy, but he's an
acquired taste right off the bat, just because I think it has to
do with his profession and howhe deals with people every
single day that I feel he has tokind of put up a small wall and
(07:37):
then you kind of have to breakit down.
But what's your opinion of that?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
No, I would agree.
I think over time his emotionsstart to show, but in the
beginning he very much keepsthem internal and kind of has
that mentality where he'll talkto you more like a client and is
like I'm like, okay, show theemotional side.
So I think pulling the emotionsout slowly has been working.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, but again I do the same thing, right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Because I work with clients all day long.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So how do you feel about this Greece trip that
we're planning?
I'm like we're planning to gofor 10 days.
You're going to be on a boatwith people that you barely know
.
How do you feel about that?
I'm like, obviously we'regetting to know each other now,
right, and we'll hopefully getto spend a little bit more time,
more time with each other tomake it, I'd say, more
comfortable.
But how do you feel at thispoint about that whole idea of
(08:29):
spending time with random peoplein the middle of the ocean?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
So I was warned about the Greece trip before last
weekend.
I was like you're going to getpressured into this.
So one Greece is on my bucketlist for next year.
Anyways, before even I metBrett, so that was kind of an
interesting layup.
I mean, I'm always up for a newopportunity, I'm always up for
exploring.
I love meeting new people.
(08:53):
I like kind of spending timewith new people, especially that
I haven't met before.
Getting to know them.
Being on a boat doesn't reallyscare me.
It's kind of exciting and beingable to hop from place to place
.
But the biggest thing will bethe planner versus non-planners
right, which is, uh, one of thebiggest things.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Like I would say, janelle and I are planners that
have an idea but don't reallyalways stick to it right.
If we get to it, we get to itbecause we get easily distracted
or we spend more time in someplace and we just want to make
sure that you're good with theflow.
Because I would say from myexperience with brett, the
(09:32):
reason we like going with brettplaces is because if he's a very
low-key, go with the flow butwe try to hit.
We all have like let's try tohit this.
If we do, we do.
We don't no one's upset, yeah,and I really love that about it.
It's like no one's like oh, wedidn't get to that.
Now we're completely upset andthe vacation's ruined, because
(09:52):
if I had to deal with peoplelike that all the time, I'd be
like you got to jump off thisboat now.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, I think I'm very much used to like.
You find something and you'relike oh, we're going to stay
here, we're going to spend theday here and you might skip
three places, but it's worth itfor that moment.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay and you're okay with like sharing ideas and you
don't have to be the leader allthe time, because I'm a very
go-with-the-flow kind of person.
Sometimes I like to take chargeon certain things and usually
when I know what I'm talkingabout, when I don't, I don't
really care, unless there'ssomething I really don't like to
do, then I say I don't want todo it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, I'm very much go-with-the-flow when it comes,
especially when someone elsekind of knows where we're going,
what we're doing.
If it's like eyes on me and wehave to figure it out, I'll
figure it out, but I'm more likewhatever we need to do, brett's
very go with the flow, though.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, he's very good at that.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
He's not really a planner.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's why I like him .
Speaker 2 (10:58):
He has like a loose plan.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I don't really plan a lot either.
Janelle does all that.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
You guys will get along just fine.
So you remember last week whenwe were at Brett's party and I
told you that you did somethingthat really resonated with me
and I'm like I like that aboutyou.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yes, but I haven't been told what.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
No, you haven't, Okay .
So we were sitting there andyou got up to go get a drink.
Yeah, the one thing you didthat I thought was really great
is you offered to bring me adrink and I thought that was
very nice and I'm like thatshows a lot of character of who
you are and the type of personthat you are, and I'm like
that's the type of person that Ilike to hang out with, because
you're caring and you'reobservant, right.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah observant.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Right, yeah, and most people aren't like that,
especially nowadays.
They only care about themselvesand like, yeah, whatever.
Or they're like can you give mesomething?
It was very nice.
I was like oh, I like that.
I'm like, okay, that's a verygood sign.
I told brett.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think I told brett I don't even know if he knows.
But no, that's I, that's how,but I'm very.
Also I like to take care ofother people, which sometimes I
put before myself, but I like tomake sure everyone's always
happy and taken care of in asituation.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, and I think, well, I know that the other
reason that I liked it isbecause you're very much like I
am.
Brett will tell you, all thetime I love to share my food, I
love to cook for people.
Like I always like to make surethat other people are having a
good time in there, they havewhat they need.
Like if I'm getting up, I liketo make sure that everybody gets
something.
That's just who I am, that'show I was brought up, that's
(12:26):
like the structure of my family,like we're always close and if
you're going to get something,you should get something for
everybody else.
So when you did that, I waslike, yeah, that feels really
good.
Oh, my God, that was very nice.
Look at that.
So that was.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
He got a water, by the way I did, it was just the
water.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Even if it was just the water, that's all I needed.
I was like all right, that was,you're in.
And I didn't forget, no, youdidn't, and that basically
solidified your entry, by theway.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
See, I'm already in on grace.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
This was just a formality.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, this is just to dot the I's.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's why To toot his horn, yep, all right.
So let's get to the good stuffTattoos.
So you have what?
How many?
Two, two tattoos?
We're going to go crazy here.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
All right, so let's talk about the very first tattoo
.
How old were you?
Where did not?
Who gave it to you?
But where were you?
What kind of mindset were youin?
Tell me all about it, Like,take me back.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So I was 18, the typical 18-year-old first tattoo
.
My grandmother had passed awaymaybe three or four years
beforehand and when she passedaway, me and my mom talked about
it.
We're like we're going to get atattoo as soon as you turn 18.
So it's kind of that buildup tolike that 18 year old big thing
you can do.
We ended up I think we werejust.
It was like my.
I think it was like the dayafter my 18th birthday, my mom
(13:50):
was like, all right, you ready,we're going to go get it.
And I was like we're doing it.
My mom, I think, at the timeonly had one or two tattoos and
so she's like I'm going to getit with you.
And I was like, oh, I thoughtthis was just going to be for me
.
So me and her, we went toNashville, new Hampshire, walked
right across the border and wewent in.
We had no real plan.
We kind of were like I wantthis.
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And she was like, well, I wantthis.
So we combined our two ideastogether and it was all supposed
to be in memory for my nana.
So I was like I want seagulls,because we always looked at the
seagulls together, and my mom'slike, well, I want sand dollars.
We always collected sanddollars together, okay.
So we told the artist.
He was like okay, let's sitdown, let's map it out.
(14:32):
We drew it.
My mom ended up editing it,moving things around, and then
she he was like well, where areyou gonna get it?
And I was like well, I haven'tthought about that yet.
So I ended up deciding to getit on my hip and my mom got it
on her ankle and that was kindof the story behind it okay,
when you got it, how did youfeel about it?
I was excited, um, I feel likeit was like that big adult thing
(14:56):
you did at age 18, um, thefirst like crazy thing that
happens.
And then I think I think maybeI'm cried too at when we were
done, because it kind of likebrought back.
Like we were just reminiscingabout my Nana we're talking
about all the times we hadtogether so it kind of brought
us back to those days as well.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I was going to ask him like did you feel
emotional while you were gettingit or after it was done?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I think afterwards I remember getting it and say I'm
never getting another tattoo,ever again, because it was on my
hip.
So I was like I feel thescraping on my hip, Like I was
in pain the whole time, and thenafterwards we more were like
we're just reminiscing on thetimes together.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Okay, so you look at it now, right.
Usually first tattoos can beiffy, right?
Because you're like most peopledon't know how to really find
the right person.
Make sure that the art is right.
You know you get that first one.
You're like, ah, okay, you lookat it now.
Would you go back and make itbetter or leave it the same, not
(15:58):
change the design?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
just the execution.
I think the execution was good.
I more probably would havechanged the design.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
so what would you go back and do?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I, I probably would have just done like the sand
dollar or the seagulls and Iprobably would have put it in a
different spot.
Um, even if I did like theseagulls, like I would, I like
where my mom did it she did iton her ankle, okay, but I think
my hip one.
You don't really see it thatoften and even when I'm like
wearing a bathing suit, I'musually hiding it.
Um, I always say now I'm like,ooh, I would go back and get
(16:29):
more added to it, but I don'tthink it would go as the way I
would want it to.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, tattoo number two.
Tattoo number two.
Tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That was another uh on the whim.
So when I I studied abroad, inAmsterdam, I met my friend Emma.
She was from Belgium and wespent like the whole six months
together and she was like I'mgonna get a tattoo this weekend.
I was like, okay, what are yougetting?
She was like I'm gonna getthree x's for Amsterdam and I
was like, okay, she's like.
No, it's like in the flag, it'severywhere on the streets, like
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they just put the x's intothings.
And I'm like, okay, this soundsgood.
Where are you?
No, it's like in the flag, it'severywhere on the streets, like
they just put the X's intothings.
And I'm like, okay, this soundsgood.
Where are you going to get it?
And she was like the back of myarm.
I was like, all right, I'mgoing to come with you.
So I went with her.
We were just in a tattoo shopin downtown Amsterdam, walked in
, I was there for herappointment and I was like do
you guys have time for anotherone?
And they were like, yeah, it'sgoing to take us five minutes to
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do it's three small X's.
So they ended up obviouslyfitting me in and I got it same
day as her.
So we kind of now it's grownover time in its meaning, but in
the moment it was like tosolidify my time in Amsterdam,
my six months together.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And now, what has the meaning become?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
So everyone that asks me about it will be like oh, is
that for your grandmother?
Because my grandmother used towrite like X's and O's on every
card.
She did Okay, I'm one of three,so I have a brother and a
sister.
So everyone card she did okay,my, I'm one of three, so I have
a brother and a sister.
So everyone's like is that foryou, j and d?
And I'm like sure.
So it's kind of built um,what's the other big one that I
think those are like the threethat popped up.
(18:04):
Some people bring up stripclubs because three x's mean
strip clubs.
That has nothing to do withthat.
Um, but yeah, those are like mygrandmother and then my brother
and sister.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Did you ever find out what the significance of the
X's mean in Amsterdam or on theflag, or why they put it
everywhere Other than they justput it everywhere?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I do not know.
I should probably look intothat one.
It was like everywhere, but themiddle of their flag was the
three X's, so it probably goesback to that is what I'm going
to assume.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, and how was your time in Amsterdam?
Tell me, tell me a little bitabout that, like I've never been
and you know.
Tell us about your experiencethere.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I always say I'm biased, but it is my favorite
place I went to in Europe so far.
Greece could take the cake, butbasically I don't know it was.
It's very.
It's a very, very beautifulcity.
What I liked about it is likeeveryone's on bikes, you're not
driving in a car all the time.
So everywhere I went I wasriding a bike and I came home
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and was like I miss that.
I was outside all the time.
I didn't get in a car, I justwas always transported through
bike.
I traveled basically everyweekend when I was there.
So I went to Belgium, I went toFrance, I went to Ireland.
I kind of jumped around Europe.
But my Monday through Fridaywas in Amsterdam.
You're on canals, there's'sflowers everywhere.
(19:32):
There's a lot of like historyand museums as well.
To be honest, I probably onlywent to the museums like once or
twice.
I was mostly just riding aroundthe streets.
Um, I would probably move backto at any point how is the
language barrier?
I had a bias, so my my bestfriend that I met there.
She was from Belgium so shespoke the language.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So she kind of was our translator.
When you're in Amsterdam, likein the city, most people speak
English and then they alwayshave a menu where it's always
translated into English.
If we went to a smallerrestaurant, we would bring our
friend Emma and she wouldtranslate.
Smaller restaurant our we wouldbring our friend Emma and she
(20:16):
would translate.
I started to pick up on somethings but now I've probably
lost everything I learned.
But it was very, um, likeFrance didn't want to translate
for you in Amsterdam.
French hate us, but Amsterdamthey were always like willing to
translate.
We ran into it maybe once ortwice where they weren't always
like willing to translate.
We ran into it maybe once ortwice where they weren't, but
(20:39):
they were always willing to kindof translate.
The other big thing, um, likecomparatively is it's just such
a slower pace of life soeverything's very slowed down.
Like when my mom came to visit,a dinner could take four hours
and she'd be like why are westill sitting here?
Like why are we still here?
This is taking so long?
I'm like you're supposed to sit, like have your drink, have
your meal, enjoy it.
So I very much love that aboutEurope in general, but Amsterdam
(20:59):
really was like you sit, youenjoy your meal.
You're not in this go, go, goall the time.
You're soaking everything in.
You're not working all the time.
Even school, like we only tooktwo classes, I was like so I go
to class, maybe like 10 hours aweek, if that that's fine.
Yeah, I came home and was like,oh, this is the reality again,
(21:20):
like I have to take class, likeI'm in school all the time, so
it's a very different, more likelow-key culture, which I think
was a very good change for meand probably could use it again.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And how was the food?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Food was great.
Amsterdam they're known fortheir stroopwafels.
They're known for theirpancakes.
They have some good apple pie.
Other areas I traveled toobviously had better food that
they were known for, but it wasreally good.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So you highly recommend it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Highly.
Yes, someone goes to Europe.
I'm like you have to go toAmsterdam.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
It's definitely on my list to go.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And you don't need a lot of time, but I would choose
longer time.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
How much time would you recommend to spend there if
you're going on vacation?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
If it wasn't me going back to reminisce on everything
, I would say if you did liketwo to three days, you can get a
good amount done, especially ifyou're staying in the city.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That seems like a reasonable time.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Unless you want to do all the museums, then you want
to do like four to five, but twoto three.
If you're just browsing thecity, okay, if you're doing a
canal tour, they have, um, likea swing.
You can swing over the canals.
There's like fun.
Alternatives, too than sittingin the museums all day well, it
(22:43):
definitely sounds pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
you get to walk around.
It seems like a very uh easycity to get around, like you
don't need like you said, youdon't need a car.
You, you can just bike or walk,and that's what I like about
Europe.
Yes, that was a very big change.
When I went the first time, itwas like it's so much easier to
get around than here.
Yes, like you don't need a car.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
No, where did you go?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Madrid, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I loved Madrid and then we went to lisbon, okay,
and the azores, oh I want to goto the azores.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Azores were beautiful would you recommend highly how
many days?
Uh, if you're going to theazores, if you're only going to,
like, uh, punto delgada, likethe, the bigger island, I'd say
you could probably geteverything done in three days.
Wow, because it's not a verybig island, but you want to
spend a good amount of timegoing sightseeing, going up to
the mountains, enjoying the food, depending on what time of the
year, going to the beach andstuff.
(23:38):
Beaches are different, though.
They're very rocky.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
They're not sandy Interesting, but they're very,
very nice.
So when you travel, are youmore of a museum or more of
enjoy the food?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I'm more of enjoy the food, but I also enjoy going to
museums because Janelle likesmore of the museums.
I'm not saying I don't, but I'mmore of a what's the food
situation the culture, the food,the ambiance.
I like to judge a country byfood, but I'll tell you one
thing about the Azores handsdown the most pristine bathrooms
(24:13):
.
You have ever seen in yourentire life interesting white
like white tile everywhere wownever had a bad smell.
Wow, like they had cleaners thatwould clean, like not in the
bathroom, but they would come,like I think the guy said, like
every half an hour they clean.
Wow, the water was so cleanbecause everything is like
volcanic water that comesthrough.
(24:34):
Yeah, you can drink the waterfrom the tap with your hands any
water that's running through astream.
You can just put your waterbottle there wow, that's amazing
, yeah they clean this bathroomthe best I can't even find
anywhere no, and like everybathroom was beautiful, I was
like, wow, this place is great,that's interesting.
And then the food is notexpensive and it's fantastic.
(24:57):
Like a good bottle of wine waslike 20 euros.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, it's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, that's thedifference between here and
Europe, I think.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Oh yeah, An espresso was like one euro.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, you're like okay, we have espresso every day
.
And never went to Starbucks,yep, no, no, you go to.
Like the little cafes, yeah,little cafes, because they're
way better, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Even in Starbucks, like a latte that you pay $6.22
for here was like two euros.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, Still, they're like nope, we know what to do
here.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, so highly recommended to go there.
Interesting, that's on a bucketlist.
Yeah, all right.
So closing statements.
Once again, why don't you justgive us the details on your
business so everyone who'sinterested can kind of go?
If you have social media pagesfor that, they can look you up.
I think you provide a veryinteresting and beneficial
service.
So anyone listening you cancontact her.
(25:51):
Go ahead and let us know wherethey can find you.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So my Instagram is nutritiouslynicole and then the
business is Natural NutritionWellness.
We post on Natural NutritionWellness almost every day, so
kind of keeping everyone updatedwith some things they can shift
even if they're not seeing us.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
All right, Nicole, thank you for being on the show.
It was wonderful having you.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
All right.
Well, this has been anotherepisode of the Inktales podcast,
and this is your host, tinoch.
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