August 20, 2024 • 41 mins
Ever wonder if it's possible to shift from a high-pressure career to a more fulfilling one without losing your mind? Meet Nayeli, who takes us through her compelling journey from the demanding world of pharmacy to finding her true calling in real estate. Listen as she shares what it's like to balance part-time pharmacy work while diving into new ventures like the tax business, all spurred by a motivational conference in Vegas. Nayeli’s story is sure to inspire anyone looking to redefine their professional path.
How do you break societal norms and show off your ink without sacrificing your professional image? This episode explores the evolving perceptions of tattoos in the workplace. We discuss the strategic placements of tattoos to maintain a professional appearance and dive into our personal experiences, from concealing larger tattoos to celebrating them. This candid conversation highlights the importance of understanding the stories behind the ink and embracing personal expression in a world that's slowly catching up.
From the emotional connections to our pets to the stories etched on our skin, we get personal. I share my own tattoo tales, including a heartfelt piece dedicated to my black cat, Taco. Plus, we reminisce about my time working at a dive bar that welcomed a mix of patrons, offering a glimpse into a unique community. We'll also chat about the intricate process of planning, covering up, and transforming tattoos into works of art. Tune in for a heartfelt discussion about identity, community, and the transformative power of body art.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, you're listening to the Inktails podcast, a show
where I go out in the city, meetnew people and get the stories
behind our tattoos.
I'm Tenoch.
Come join me on my journey.
Today on the show, I'm inAurora, Illinois, with my guest,
Nayeli Nayeli.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No problem, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm doing well hanging in there.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
That's good, so we like to take it pretty easy on
the show.
Okay, Mainly what I want toknow when we start off is just
let us know a little bit aboutwho you are, what you do and
some of the things that youenjoy doing in life.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay, so my name is Nayeli.
I actually do a lot, so I wentto pharmacy school Huh.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I said do tell us.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, so I'm actually a pharmacist, so that's
technically my career, but I gottired of being a pharmacist.
So that's technically my career, but I got tired of being a
pharmacist after eight yearsmaybe.
And so now I sell houses.
And then I got tired of sellinghouses too, so now I am going
to do taxes.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Wait so.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I kind of jump around just doing a few things because
I get bored easily.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So what is it about being a pharmacist that you
didn't like, because obviouslythat's a lot of schooling.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah Well, I was working for a grocery.
It's like a community pharmacy,you would say.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So they basically treat you the same as you were
working, as like a factory.
You know, like I used to workfactory jobs when I was younger
and they don't.
They're basically like, youknow, you gotta like just hurry
up, hurry up, hurry up, you know.
So it was like okay, well, Iwent to school for eight years
and I'm still working weekendsand I'm still working nights and
(02:02):
I'm still getting asked tohurry up.
You know, I didn't really havethe time to like take care of
patients the way that I wantedto, so it really wasn't worth it
, even though I mean the money'sgood.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So why not?
Why didn't you just decide toswitch from that company to
maybe somebody else or somewhereelse?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I couldn't, but they're all the same and
actually I did.
I worked at um some otherinsurance big name Um.
I did insurance for a littlebit and it was awful.
It was like I was clinicallydepressed.
It was not not a good fit.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, so obviously that was not what you expected
it to be.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, I mean, you know it's, it's because it's
also, I think, personality,right.
So I'm one of those people whoI love to meet new people, I
love to do different thingsevery day, right?
So when it comes to retail, youdo the same thing every day and
to a certain extent, you seethe same medications all the
time.
It doesn't change, it doesn'tchange that much from day to day
.
And the same thing.
(03:02):
With the insurance company youdid the same thing every day
nine to five.
And it with the insurancecompany, you did the same thing
every day, nine to five.
And it's kind of it's just likeso I don't know so boring.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Okay, so then from there you.
You said you were a realtor,right yeah, so I'm still doing
that.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm a real estate agent okay, and what was so?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
what do you like about being a realtor or don't
like about being?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
a realtor.
I like making money.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is the money better?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So you know, okay.
So a real estate agent iscompletely different, right?
So to be a successful realestate agent, you have to be
sociable.
A lot of my money, a lot of myincome comes from my friends and
people I've met at the bar.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I've met All right, so you were telling me.
So I was saying that I thinkyour personality lends itself to
you know, being like a goodrealtor, because you get to meet
people, you get to go out andtalk to them and, like you said,
I don't think that that makesit boring, because, no matter
what situation you're in andwhere you go, you can always
potentially meet a client.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Correct, Correct.
So yeah, so real estate is fun.
It's fun, I mean it's fun.
It can be stressful as well,but it's it's more.
I feel more fulfilled doingreal estate than I did being a
pharmacist.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's good.
I'm like that's what you wantin life anyways.
Right, you want to be fulfilledand enjoy what you do.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, so it's a little less money, but it works.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And how long have you been doing real?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
estate.
I've been doing that for fouryears now.
So I actually, when I firststarted, I was doing pharmacy at
the same time as I was doingreal estate, so I was doing both
.
I had no life Like.
All I did was like look uphouses and go to work.
Yeah, that was crazy, but Iactually did fairly well those
(04:47):
two or three years that I wasdoing it like together and now I
actually like cut down on mypharmacy and now I do a real
estate full-time and I dopharmacy part-time.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, I was.
I was going to ask him like areyou still a practicing
pharmacist?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I want to keep it, you know, because I spent so
much, so many years going toschool yeah, I'm sure a lot of
money.
So it's kind of like you knowno, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And then, uh, you said you did something else.
What else do you do?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
yeah, so now I'm actually looking towards, um,
starting up a tax business.
I actually just got back from atax conference, uh, this past
week in Vegas, which was lots offun, and I met a lot of people
who are also doing taxes andthey have their own business,
and there's so many things youcan do.
I learned so much and I'm verymotivated now.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So what do you have to do to be able to do taxes,
like what kind of schooling orcertification?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You have to be a CPA, but you actually don't.
You can just be a tax preparerokay and you just get like a
certified annually and you haveto work under somebody.
But you can like say, get a jobat h&r block seasonally and
then they.
I think they pay you hourly,but there's some companies who
will pay you per tax return,which is better than working
(06:02):
hourly, because they make a tonof money off of you.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
When they prepare your taxes.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, heck yeah, cause you can make,
like say, a tax return, aregular W-2, you could charge
potentially like $200,.
Right, okay, that takes you 15minutes, if even.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's.
That's not bad for 15 minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's not bad at all, it's.
It's way better.
It's way better.
If you do the math, I make waymore money than pharmacy or real
estate probably put together.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So, with that just being like a tax preparer, you
can't do that on your own,though can you with your own
clients?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Actually, I'm looking into the logistics of it
because I'm not really sure howthat's going to work.
I have somebody one of mymentors.
He has his own tax business andso he's going to walk me
through everything, but he wantsme to open a franchise under
his company.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So if I do that, then he'll just like facilitate
everything for me, or I couldjust start it by myself.
So I'm looking into the detailsof what would be more cost
efficient for me and what wouldlike be the best way for me to
get started okay.
Well, now you'll be doing threedifferent things yes, correct
okay, so I mean, I'm what thereason for me doing this is,
because I really want to leavethe pharmacy altogether okay, so
(07:15):
you want to have, like, asecondary ideally I would want
to um, yeah, just leave pharmacyaltogether and not think about
it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay, so let's move away a little bit from like a
business perspective.
Obviously, you have your handsin a bunch of, like you know, a
bunch of different pots.
No, that's okay.
I'm like you know it's good tounderstand what, like, what
makes you tick and what you liketo do.
But I also want to know what doyou like to do when you're not
working, like, what interestsyou, what, uh, gets you exciting
(07:47):
?
You know to like do stuff I do.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I love to work because, um, like I said, and
then maybe that's why I wentinto into real estate because
I'm working and I'm making moneyat the same time and so I grew
up low income, right?
So low income, you don't have alot of money, you.
You constantly have to worryabout, like, where your next
paycheck is coming from, right?
So I do appreciate, I think I'mstill not.
(08:12):
You know, I make a lot of money, but I don't.
I don't feel that I'm where Iwant to be.
So I do want to continue makingmoney until I I reached my goal
, which I don't really have agoal yet.
My goal is to never worry aboutmoney, ever.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Isn't that everybody's goal?
That'd be nice.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well, I mean, I'm serious about it.
A lot of people say that, right, they're like oh yeah, I want
to be a millionaire, but theydon't do anything to become a
millionaire.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Right, you can't play the lottery and expect to be a
millionaire Exactly to make thathappen.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
so I'm setting myself up to be a millionaire,
hopefully, hopefully, soon,maybe.
Uh, my goal would ideally wouldhave been before, like 35, but
now we're a little past thattime, so that's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
There's no rush like you're still young I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So that's another thing.
People are always like oh youknow, there's no, there's no
rush right there, you're not ina hurry.
But you should be in a hurrybecause, say, I'm a millionaire
when I'm 60, who cares?
I'm 60 years old.
I don't know that I'm gonnahave the kind of energy I have
now.
I want to have money now so Ican do the things I want to do
now.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I do like now, when I'm like 70, 60, 50, 45.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I want to do it now now I hear you.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'm like if I can have um that kind of life where
I don't have to work, yeah, I'dappreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I love the rockstar lifestyle.
It's, um, you know, here andthere I'll quit.
You know the pharmacy andeverything, and I'll just do
whatever for a few weeks.
And it's amazing.
I love it.
I always find stuff to do.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It seems like you do.
It seems like you do.
And I'm sure you have a prettygood plan to be a millionaire
sometime soon.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, so God willing soon.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah Well, I wish you the best and I can't wait to
hear when you hit that firstmillion.
I'm sure my sister will tell meThank you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay, so I like to start off super, super easy.
I like to know what was thevery first tattoo that you got.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Okay, so my very first tattoo.
I think I was 18.
My, my coworker, was like hey,I'm going to get a tattoo.
You guys want to come with thisguy's giving us a really good
deal.
It was like 50 bucks orsomething, or maybe 80.
So this guy did a tattoo.
It was we all got little stuff.
I don't remember what they got,but I got my daughter's name
and I think he added a butterfly.
He said I'm going to hook youup, so we put a little butterfly
(10:23):
at the end.
And then he's like you knowwhat, since he did three of us,
he said you know what, if youguys get another tattoo out,
it's free.
Wait, you got two.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You got two for the price of one.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah.
So then I got another one.
I didn't know what to get.
I was like, oh, I'll do a halfmoon, half sun, right, so he did
, it was okay.
So this was like, this was likethe trashiest tattoo ever.
Um, I got it.
When you call a tramp stampokay is that?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
is that where you got the moon?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I didn't know, it was a tramp stamp.
Nobody told me that I was 18years old.
And he said well, you know,it'd look really nice on your
lower back.
And I said, oh, okay, sure, noidea, no idea what I signed up
to, um, but yeah, whatever, wegot it done.
And and then, um, actually, youknow my, my parents, you know,
they're Mexican old schoolparents.
I didn't want to tell them thatI got a tattoo, even though I
(11:16):
was 18 already.
So I was like avoiding tellingthem because I was like they're
gonna find out and you know I'mgonna get in trouble.
So we went to a, to a partywith my mom and I took my
daughter.
My daughter was like five atthe time and I was like, mom, I
have something to tell you,because I know she wasn't going
to hit me in front of people.
(11:36):
You know, like mom, I havesomething to tell you.
She said that you got a tattooand I was like yeah, how do you
know?
And she's like well, yourdaughter told me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That she saw you had, you know, something on your
back and I was like, oh, so youalready knew.
And she's like, yeah, she'slike you know, like whatever you
know, I can't believe you'redoing that stuff, but it's fine,
you know, and she wasn't as madas I expected.
(12:07):
And how long was it from thetime that you got your tattoo to
the time your mom found out?
It was probably like within amonth.
Yeah, because I couldn't.
You know, I can't.
My parents and I are very close.
I can't keep stuff from them,so I was like you know, I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
You know, even though I knew that they weren't going
to agree with it, I still wantedthem to know.
Yeah, no, I think you know usas Mexicans.
We kind of have a similar storywith that.
You know, obviously I held outa little bit longer than you did
.
Mine was like two years.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
How long was that?
Two years before they knew yeah, Holy F Wait.
Where did you get your firsttattoo then?
Oh Could you hide it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It was super easy because the very first tattoo
that I got was I got binary codeon the inside of my arm for my
son's name and I got binary codeon my ribs for Janelle's name
and those were super easy tohide, right.
But my next piece was like thatPolynesian tattoo that I have
on my arm that goes from the topof my shoulder to almost to my
(13:03):
elbow, and I hid that for twoyears with uh, three-quarter
sleeve shirts, and then forthree years two years, two years
two years wow yeah, then Ifinally just uh, let it out what
did they say?
I'm like I don't know, because Iwant to.
Then I showed them the otherones.
They're like okay, I like those, and now it's just, I don't
(13:24):
think they do care but, yeah Ithink I got like six more since
the last time they saw me.
Oh wow, the small ones.
But well, one big piece and acouple small ones.
But yeah, I did hide it for acouple of years oh, my god, well
, see mine.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Like, I do have them in places where I can hide them
because I'm still, like you know, technically I'm still a
professional Right and you know,even though everybody's like,
oh, let's move towards that,that trend where it doesn't
matter what you look like, right, and to a certain extent you're
right, you're right, but at thesame time, tattoos kind of have
like this like almost like ataboo right, because you don't
(13:58):
know where these people gotthese tattoos Right.
I got this tattoo in prison.
You know they were like so you,yeah, it's still a little bit
(14:27):
of like I don't know their babymama's name or something like
that, or you know.
So I think I would be like youknow what I'm.
Okay, I don't want you to treatme.
It sounds like I said it'scontroversial and people are
gonna be like, well, you're ahypocrite, but at the same time
it's like dude, come on, yougotta like.
You know, think about this.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
No, I get it.
People still have that kind ofmisconception and I think it's
more towards like professionaltype of jobs, like when you're
and more like doctors, you know,maybe lawyers or something like
that, where you look at it,where you know if you're looking
at someone who's like asoftware engineer, you're not
going to care right Becauseyou're dealing with software.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You'd be like, oh, that's cool, but like you said,
if you look at it, a doctor, IfI see people who are, like, say,
artists who have a bunch oftattoos, I'm like, oh my god,
that's so cool, like I feel likeI would be more willing to have
.
Like, for example, like mytattoo artist has a bunch of
tattoos, right, so I feel safequote-unquote that he's doing my
tattoos because he's also gottattoos, you know yeah.
(15:26):
So if he didn't have tattoos,you'd probably be like oh, I
don't know if I want a tattoo bythis guy yeah, and like it's
totally understandable.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You know, we still have those misconceptions and,
like you said, I don't, I don'tthink I look at maybe, maybe I
haven't thought about it likethat where well, think about it.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So think about it.
So say, say, a neurosurgeon,right, somebody who's going to
operate on your brain.
You, you know, they come to you, you, they greet you, right,
they greet you.
They're, you know, in a suitand tie and their white coat,
but they have like a tattoo on.
You know, they're completelyshaven and they have tattoos on
their, you know, on their skull.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Like would you be, like yeah, I'm just going to, or
, you know, and piercing, youknow you're going to be like I
would say my younger selfprobably would have had the same
kind of outlook that you do nowyeah but my new self,
especially after you know, doingthis podcast and you have the
uh, you know the time and the,the ability to sit with people
(16:24):
and talk to them about theirtattoos I I've kind of taken a
step back and not necessarilyjudge someone right away,
because you don't know thestories behind their tattoo.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like what if the reason he has tattoos on his
head is because maybe he had abrain injury that he recovered
from and that's his way ofexpressing that he recovered
from that?
Like we don't know?
Yeah, that's true of meetingpeople, and sitting down and
hearing their stories has mademe less judgmental of what
people get and maybe morecurious of the story behind it.
(16:56):
Versus judging like, oh, Iwould never get that, I can
still say like I would never getthat.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's true.
That is a good point.
I do see a lot of peoplegetting tattoos for their, you
know, their relatives or or,like you said, something that
triggered them, something youknow, yeah, and I think now.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's just more that now, instead of judging and me,
you know, being all high andmighty like, oh, it's more like
I want to know what that, whythat's there and what's the
reason behind it.
So I have a different approachnow and I think this podcast has
helped me kind of look atthings and that's you know that
way yeah, and I think that'sfair.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's fair.
I haven't.
I didn't think about it thatway.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, and also like that.
That has helped me just look atlife in the same kind of
perspective.
Instead of making that initialjudgment, you kind of just maybe
you should ask a questionbefore you judge somebody.
That's just.
I think, what I've learned fromdoing this is that everybody has
different ways of expressingthemselves, and when people
choose to put a tattoo on theirbody, they're telling a story
(17:57):
with it and that's their way ofexpressing it, and sometimes
it's pain, sometimes it justshows um they're, you know, like
free spirit of adventure.
So you don't know, and that'swhy I'm like I said, that's why
I love doing this, and it'sreally helped me change my
perspective on how I view peopleof all walks of life nowadays
yeah, no, you're right, I thinkthat's.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Uh, tattoos are a lot more common than they used to
be.
I think somebody somebody justmentions me they wanted to get a
tattoo, I think, today okay, Ithink one of my friends.
She was just like she had alittle tattoo and she's like oh,
you know, I know, I think Iwant to get another one.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So here's the one that I want to know about.
Next is tell me why and wheredid you get your echo?
In Mexico, because I think as.
Mexicans, we all.
I don't even think I got totake that back, it's not even as
Mexicans.
I just think as, like humans,who, who connect with you, know
their nationality.
Humans who connect with you,know their nationality,
regardless of what it is, alwayshave a tendency like, they want
(18:54):
to like, represent.
And I wanted to do that and Ichose not to.
I chose to do it a differentway, but I want to know from you
what does that mean to you andwhere did?
You get it.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So I used to work at a bar and I would get a lot of
people who would say, oh, areyou?
Are you Mexican?
You know?
And that's always been aquestion everybody always asks
me, like if I'm mexican, or ifI'm like, what's your ethnicity?
Like you know, I guess I couldbe anything.
So I think I just got tired oftelling people that I was
mexican, so I just got a tattooon my, on my boob, on the left
side of my boob, um, and thenjust uh, whenever people would
(19:28):
just say, hey, like what are you?
You I'd just show them my boobsand they'd be like, oh, okay,
and it's like at the top right.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Like the very top of it where you can just easily
show them.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It was marketing.
Yeah, well, yeah, when we usedto work, we would always wear it
because you're running around,so usually you just get like you
wear like a muscle tee.
What bar did you work at?
Uh, I work here.
Well, here, my hometown um, itused to be called the midtown
bar and grill okay so, yeah, soit was like a dive bar.
(20:01):
It was like one of those barswhere you would have like
somebody who made like you know,like a million dollars and then
somebody who probably washomeless, hang out together in
the same bar and doing karaoke.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That sounds fun.
Karaoke is always fun.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, it was a really it was a really fun bar.
It was um, it was good.
I think we made we made it apoint to make sure everybody
felt welcome and accepted andeverybody was like really nice
to each other.
It was a really good bar andwhen you got it, did it um, did
(20:37):
it hurt, um?
Actually, I don't think so.
I think that was probably oneof the least ones that hurt.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
What about your first one?
How was that one, especially onthe lower back um.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You know what I don't remember.
I don't I think it did hurt,but I don't think it was like so
bad is that long ago.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And then, what did your mom say when, uh, she saw
the hecho en mexico?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
uh, well, actually I think after that she was
probably like she lost all hopein me already.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So she was kind of like whatever, whatever you want
, you know I think I thinkparents at one point just kind
of give up and they're like,yeah, I think I can do about it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
She already gave up and you know what?
Honestly, I don't even know ifshe knows I have it really yeah,
you know what?
I don't even know.
You know she probably has.
She has to know.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Honestly, I've never even asked her maybe you should
ask her like mom, have you seenthis?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
she's probably gonna be like whatever you ever do,
whatever you want he's probablylike yeah, I already know,
already know.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
She's like I know everything.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, probably.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That's how parents are.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, no, my mom's super like.
I mean, I don't think she wouldsay anything anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
No, probably not at this point.
I think you know, like you said, she's giving up.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, I'm not old enough, so if she says something
, I mean I'll be like really mom.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And then you have a cat on your back, right?
Yes, it's a pretty big cat.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
You think so?
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I would say so.
I think it's a prettydecent-sized cat.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, you know, I can't see it, it's on my back.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, Now it's a pretty good size.
So tell me about this cat.
Did you name it?
Does it?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
have a name.
So I had a cat maybe I don'tknow maybe seven years ago.
He is a black cat, his name isTaco and he ran away.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Taco.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, but he was my cat, so we got a pair.
It was him and his sister, sowe named them Taco and Belle,
for Taco Belle.
And so Taco was very caring.
He was one of those cats who,like, if you were sick, like he
would know you were sick and hewould stay with you and he would
make sure you're doing okay.
And he was my cat, so he wouldsleep with me.
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He was very smart, but he alsohated attention and I ended up
leaving my.
I got my own house and I leftmy mom's house and I didn't take
him with me because I didn't.
I didn't want to.
I didn't know how to take careof a cat by myself.
I was living by myself, so Ididn't want him to be alone.
How?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
old were you when you moved to your first house?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
30.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Okay, and how long did?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
you have the cat before that.
So maybe like a year, maybe acouple years.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Okay, so not that long, yeah, so what'd you think
that he?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
died.
He got upset, but I left and heran away from your mom's house
yeah, he ran away, but then hewould come back and play with uh
, we have other cats, so, um, hewould come back and play with
them, you know, on on the front,on the front lawn, and then he
would leave how long?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
how long did he come back for?
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
he came.
He came back regularly, I think, uh, for my mom moved out of
there maybe three years ago, buthe would continue to come up
until my mom moved, and then youknow, obviously, if he went he
couldn't find the other cats,though and then, at what point
did you get the tattoo, likeafter well, I actually just got
that tattoo, maybe like thissummer okay maybe like a month
ago, maybe I asked you, I don'tremember is it, because I just
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got it, because you missed him?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
huh, is it because you missed taco?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
um, I kind of I mean, sometimes I miss him, but I
think you know he was, you knowhe was ready to go, so you know
I probably wasn't a good, likeyou know, a cat mom, so that's
why he left for taco and so whatis?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
why did you put like um flowers?
And is it, does it meananything that you put a flower
inside?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
um, I already had flowers there, but I wanted I I
asked the guy to just like putsome flowers on there.
I think that was like thedesign.
I really liked it, just becausetaco was like a good cat.
He's very good, you know he'slike a.
You know, like I said, he waslike one of those cats who like
paid attention.
You know how everybody saysthat cats are assholes yeah, I
mean they can be, but they're,you know, they're also very like
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caring sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's why they call them assholes yeah, yeah, yeah,
no, but they're, they can becaring, you know, it's just
however they're feeling yeah, weused to have a cat.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I miss it.
I miss having a cat.
They're cool yeah, that's,that's for sure and then so,
keeping on the theme of likewhat I see on your back and the
cat, so you have your.
That's where your daughter'sname is right, yeah, and then
you decided that you put like,um, like, a cherry blossom tree,
which is that's definitelypretty significant because it
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takes up the majority of yourback um, yes, I didn't think
about it that way.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I just told this guy I'm like hey, just I wanted a
cherry blossom and, uh, justhappened to be that size, I
don't know and what inspired thecherry blossom um, I think that
was after I watched that.
Um, that kung fu panda was thatis that.
What is the the one with thepanda, that tree?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
the, the pan, the um.
It was a cartoon kung fu panda,kung fu panda.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
What was it?
I don't even know the name ofthe movie really it was a panda
kung fu I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Panda with jack black .
Speaker 2 (25:55):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I said it's Kung Fu Panda with Jack Black.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, that one.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I think I got it after I got.
I want to say it was after thatmovie.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So what is it about the movie?
Obviously, the movie inspiredyou to get that tattoo.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I mean, I thought the cherry blossom looked really
cute.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, the cherry blossom tree was.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, it was pretty significant it looked pretty
right when the little turtle was, I don't know, saying something
philosophical, and then he justdied.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, he kind of went into little particles.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, it was a nice way to die right.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
It was.
But yeah, I'm like, I've alwaysloved cherry blossom trees.
So that was the inspiration forthat cherry blossom.
Yeah, yeah, and how long didthat take?
Because it looks like itprobably took a good, a good
while to do that, because it'slike I said, it's a pretty large
piece on your back yeah, I haveno idea.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Honestly I don't remember.
I I'm not like, I'm not verydetail oriented, I don't
remember it could have been, Idon't know.
I honestly don't even rememberwhen I got it.
And then Because it's been thatlong.
Yeah, sometimes this wasprobably done like maybe 10
years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I think once you start getting past like
three or four tattoos, you tendto forget when you got them and
where you were.
You know they've got to bepretty significantly important
for you to remember that.
But after a while, yeah, youstart to lose track of where you
yeah, yeah, I don't rememberand what's at the base of the um
of the cherry blossom tree,because it looks like it is that
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you said you have a bird?
Is that where?
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
yeah, there's some kind of bird.
So actually that one I didn'treally like that much.
Um, I, um, I think I justwanted to get a tattoo and then,
um, I asked the artist to likedraw something up and he was
just kind of like, well, youhave to tell me what you want.
I don't really know, and I'mlike.
So I just he was like, hey, youknow, we can do this bird and it
has like a time clock on it andI'm like yeah, I was gonna ask
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you what that was but actuallydidn't really like it that much
and then you incorporated theyeah, I was like at this point
I'm gonna have to cover up mywhole back because it's already
there, because it just looksweird how it's, you know,
halfway done.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So that that was my goal behind that, which I still
need to do, probably more I dolike the way that, like the
cherry blossom, kind of blendsin with your daughter's name.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah.
And then Actually, because thatwas added later and that was a
different tattoo artist.
So I think I've tried likethree different tattoo artists
now and everybody has their ownstyle.
Like you see the butterflies onmy daughter's name, like I
wanted butterflies and I I toldthis guy I was like, okay,
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whatever you do, I do not wantany stars, no stars.
And he said, okay, okay, I gotyou, tell me why.
He's like you know, I'm gonnado something very special for
you.
You know you don't have to payextra or whatever.
And I'm like, okay, sure, tellme why he puts a bunch of
fucking stars.
I was so mad, the little babystars, I hated those.
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Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I don't get that when you ask him like I don't want
this, and then they put it on.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, so actually recently, and actually I think
the one that you see I had thosechanged over, some of them, um,
and you know what you?
Probably I wouldn't I don't seethem in this picture, but I had
this guy make some of the starsinto hearts instead of stars
okay.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Do you think you're gonna change all your stars into
, like hearts or flowers orsomething else?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
um, yeah, I want to, because I I really didn't want
any stars at all.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I was specific about that why don't you like the
stars?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I don't know.
I just think that they look.
I don't know they look.
I feel like everybody getsstars.
You know, I think it's so basic.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well, I think stars are part of like American
tradition tattoos, like that'show they fill in space, so
that's why you see them.
A lot is when you see inAmerican tradition from, at
least if I can remember properly.
So I'm pretty sure it's correct, because I was talking to one
of my tattoo artists who wasdoing work on me.
His dad was getting a sleeveand he's like yeah, I got a
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phone with stars and like dotsand stuff and that's like
American tradition.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, that's what they use for like filler.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
But yeah, I still think it's kind of shitty.
Thats for no stars.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I mean, you end up with stars.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, it's like yeah, I'm gonna do something really
special for you.
I'm gonna give you exactly whatyou didn't want yeah, exactly,
so that was that.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So I think after that that was the last time I went
to that tattoo artist.
Did he do anything else did?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
they do anything else for you, or just no?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
no, I actually I did.
I think you know what.
I think he actually did do soon the right side of my booth,
since I already had that on theon the left.
On the right hand side, I hadhim do like um, did you ever
watch zena the warrior princess?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
yeah, who hasn't back in the day?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
yeah.
So you know how she has likeher armor, kind of like has like
um like.
You know how it's her armor,the gold part of it.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
It kind of seems like a design around her boobs, so I
had that tattooed on On theother side.
On the other side.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Okay, and so why did you put that one on there?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
um, because I thought I thought it looked pretty and
I feel like I wanted to even itout with the other side okay,
and now?
So when you look at it now, andnow I feel like, because I got
that one and it's bigger thanthe other side, now I feel like
the other one I have to fill itin which side the hecho, mexico
side or the shield side?
yeah, the hecho mexico, I wasthinking about getting like a
similar kind of like um asimilar style, but like made out
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of out of flowers okay yeah, sothat I'm gonna add that on
there.
I just need it.
I need to talk to that guyagain, but I just haven't gotten
around to it.
But he really liked doing myboob and it was just kind of
like doing, really like chillmaybe he just really liked it, I
don't know yeah, yeah so whendo you um?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
do you have plans on getting that anytime soon?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I do, I do.
I just haven't like like I'mall over the place, like you can
tell, probably.
So I'm all over the damn place.
So I'm just kind of like,whenever, like something, just
like, say, like one day, like ona random day, I'll be like okay
, I'm to get a tattoo today, andyou know it's whoever is
available, so whoever isavailable that day at that time,
because if they're notavailable then I lose the you
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know.
I lose momentum and interest,and then I won't do it anymore,
until whenever I'm ready to doit again.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So, like touching on that, do you have like any of
the tattoos that you currentlyhave because of that, the nature
of you kind of beingspontaneous on them, other than
the stars.
Do you have anything thatyou've put on that you're like
shit.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I shouldn't have got that like I should have waited,
or maybe just not gotten it umwell, I mean, I I think like my
half moon, half star.
Uh, I have a half moon, halfsun on my lower back okay, the
one that you got for free huhthe one that you got buy one,
get one free yeah, my buy one,get one, my free.
So so it was like, really, itwas like really it wasn't good,
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it was really bad.
So I had the same guy.
I'm like, hey, man, you likefuck me up, can you redo this?
He's like, well, you know, inorder to cover it up, I'm gonna
have to do a really big tattoo.
And I was like, ok, fuck it,whatever, whatever it takes,
just cover it up.
I need this.
So he covered it up, and soit's a huge, huge tattoo on my
lower back.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
What did he cover?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
it up with Huh.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
What's the cover up?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So it's the same thing.
It's just a half moon, half sun, but it's a more detailed one.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Where the other one was just the outline.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
This one's actually like detailed, it's got like
it's completely filled in.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Do you have color in it?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
No, no color at all, it's just black and white, black
and gray.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And how do you feel about that after he uh covered
it?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
okay, but I feel like I feel like I wish that I had
just not done it and I couldhave just done it correctly and
had somebody who actually, like,had better skills doing it, and
then it would look better,because it just doesn't look so
if you, if you can cover that upright now with something else,
what would it be that you wouldwant?
I mean, I'd probably get thesame thing, just just like a
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better quality.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Would you just turn that into like an Aztec calendar
?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I don't think so.
I think it would be.
So I think, unless I trustedsomebody to do it, like do a
really great job, I don't thinkI would want to risk it Because
I think it would be like a verydifficult tattoo.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
That is a very difficult tattoo.
Yeah, I don't want to fuck itup, you know, but that would be
like a very difficult tattoo.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
That is a very difficult tattoo, but yeah, I
don't want to fuck it up.
You know like but that would bea badass tattoo, yeah you just
gotta go to the right personsomebody who was really amazing,
like I trusted them completelythen, then no, I wouldn't get it
redone okay, when are you goingback to california to see my
sister?
Um, I have no idea.
She's always asking about it,but I'm like, well, what are we
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gonna do?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
because she's you guys, well, where she lives,
it's kind of um yeah, it's inbetween, like san diego and la,
and we're in the desert yeah,yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So there's not a lot of stuff to do, so whenever we
do go, we meet in la okay, whatyou should do is next time you
go to la you should go and seemy tattoo artist and have him do
an astid calendar you think so,but I don't know if he can
cover mine up, because it'sreally bad, like I don't think
you understand.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Well, we can always we can always show it to him.
He like he does um all this.
Well, the stuff that he did forme was all like hand drawn with
like a little protractor andlike uh scientific glasses to
like oh, really wow this guy'samazing okay, you gotta send me
his name, I will I'll give him alittle shout out to my boy, ami
, who I'm gonna go see inseptember, because he's got to
(35:51):
do my uh, he's got to do myshading on my arm and probably
do a little bit more no, really,but yeah, I think if you're
looking to do a nice cover-upwith detailed work like Ask that
Calendar, I think he candefinitely do that for you.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Okay, I'll look into it.
That's something definitelythat I need to like plan out,
but something like that wouldtake planning, because I'm
assuming somebody like him isvery like busy and probably has
appointments like months out,right yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It's just.
But with him it's kind of easybecause it's you know, from
dealing with him a few times.
Basically, you give him an ideaand then he's like, all right,
let's go, because he does it allbased off of he doesn't for the
stuff that I've done and forlike some of the other things
that I've seen he doesn't drawcompletely.
He sees your body and startsdrawing it and then, next to you
(36:45):
know, you have like thisbeautiful piece of artwork.
Okay, okay, I gotta see hiswork.
Yeah, I'll send you, I'll sendyou his link and then, uh, you
can, or his page, and then youcan look at what he does.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
yeah, okay, okay, because I have gotten some
people who are like, oh, you gotto check out my tattoo artist,
and then I go to them and thenit's like not really that good.
No, it happened yeah.
That's how that first tattoocame on.
They're like oh yeah, this isgoing really good.
Buy one, get one.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, for anyone listening, I would not trust
anybody that's buy one, get one.
That's definitely one thing youdon't want to do.
From, I would say from my ownpersonal experience and the
people that I've spoken to, isdefinitely don't cheap out on
your tattoo artists, becausethat shit's permanent and you
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get what you pay for.
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yes, yes, you're right, you get what you pay for.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
If you pay 50 bucks, you're going to get a $50 tattoo
.
Yep and that same tattoo couldcost you $300 from somebody else
, and there's just, there's justlevels to that game.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
You know and like.
The other thing is likeeverybody has at least one or
two tattoos that they're like.
I wish I had that a little bitbetter, right.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's true and you'reright, it's just about like
planning and actually, like youknow.
And then some guys, you knowit's tricky, but you're right,
it just comes down to the price,because some people well, I
mean not all the time sometimesyou get people who are good and
you know they're not superexpensive, but most likely, if
they're not that good, they'regonna be like oh yeah, we'll
give you a deal.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, exactly, you don't want that's definitely you
don't want to skimp on on yourtattoo artist.
So I would think and being themost expensive isn't always the
best either, you you know,because they could just be
well-known.
And meaning like the best,meaning like that just might not
be your style and then youmight not end up liking it,
because some people are very.
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They only like doing certainstyles of tattoos and they don't
really like to change.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah.
I've noticed that.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, because I think what it is is like you're,
you're sticking to theirwheelhouse, right?
What they're good at, so that'swhy they tend to do the same
type of work is because that'stheir specialty.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
And that's what they're good at.
They shy away or like if theydo anything outside of that.
It's probably not as good astheir normal work, because
that's just not what they do.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay, that makes sense.
And then are we missinganything else?
Or did we cover all the tattoos?
I don't know.
You're the one who I don't knowwhat.
So we got.
What did we miss?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
yeah, so we, we've covered that.
You the the big cherry blossomwith your cat.
We have your daughter's name,we have the butterflies.
Well, what do the butterfliesmean to you?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
um.
I like butterflies becausethey're free just like free
spirited flapping their wingsmaking change in the world.
The butterfly effect um, Idon't know what, not about
changing the world, but justabout being free like
butterflies.
They're kind of on their ownand they just like just fly by
themselves and do their ownthing and okay.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
So we're having a couple of technical difficulties
out here today, Lost power forthe second time, but yeah, I
guess we're coming pretty muchto a tail end of your tattoos
and hopefully what I would liketo happen is hopefully I can
connect you with my guy Ami, youcan kind of check out his work
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and maybe when you're next timeyou're in LA you can pay him a
visit and get a nice cover forthe sun and moon.
That seems like it's been aconstant non.
It hasn't really metexpectations.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yes, correct, it is a difficult tattoo because it's,
you know, I think it's becauseit's also so big that you know
you really have to like payattention to details.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, you know, but you know, kind of like we talked
about some, some artists areworking outside of there I would
say probably their theirwarehouse and are taking on
projects that are probably toobig for them.
Yep, but hopefully, you know,we can step in and help you out
and get you have a, you know,get you a nice piece that you
can be proud of showing off thatyou won't have to get covered
up again.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
I don't know if I'm ever going to be proud of
showing off my tramp stamp.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Well, at that point it's just going to be a piece of
art and it's no longer a trampstamp.
When you change it from one toanother, it's not the same thing
anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, I hope so.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, same here.
Well, nayeli, thank you forspending your weekend time with
us here on the show and I reallyappreciate you being here and
sharing your stories.
Okay, thanks for having me.
All right, and this has beenanother episode.
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Hi, you're listening to the Inktails podcast, a show
where I go out in the city, meetnew people and get the stories
behind our tattoos.
I'm Tenoch.
Come join me on my journey.
Today on the show, I'm inAurora, Illinois, with my guest,
Nayeli Nayeli.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No problem, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm doing well hanging in there.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
That's good, so we like to take it pretty easy on
the show.
Okay, Mainly what I want toknow when we start off is just
let us know a little bit aboutwho you are, what you do and
some of the things that youenjoy doing in life.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay, so my name is Nayeli.
I actually do a lot, so I wentto pharmacy school Huh.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I said do tell us.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, so I'm actually a pharmacist, so that's
technically my career, but I gottired of being a pharmacist.
So that's technically my career, but I got tired of being a
pharmacist after eight yearsmaybe.
And so now I sell houses.
And then I got tired of sellinghouses too, so now I am going
to do taxes.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Wait so.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I kind of jump around just doing a few things because
I get bored easily.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So what is it about being a pharmacist that you
didn't like, because obviouslythat's a lot of schooling.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah Well, I was working for a grocery.
It's like a community pharmacy,you would say.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So they basically treat you the same as you were
working, as like a factory.
You know, like I used to workfactory jobs when I was younger
and they don't.
They're basically like, youknow, you gotta like just hurry
up, hurry up, hurry up, you know.
So it was like okay, well, Iwent to school for eight years
and I'm still working weekendsand I'm still working nights and
(02:02):
I'm still getting asked tohurry up.
You know, I didn't really havethe time to like take care of
patients the way that I wantedto, so it really wasn't worth it
, even though I mean the money'sgood.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So why not?
Why didn't you just decide toswitch from that company to
maybe somebody else or somewhereelse?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I couldn't, but they're all the same and
actually I did.
I worked at um some otherinsurance big name Um.
I did insurance for a littlebit and it was awful.
It was like I was clinicallydepressed.
It was not not a good fit.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, so obviously that was not what you expected
it to be.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, I mean, you know it's, it's because it's
also, I think, personality,right.
So I'm one of those people whoI love to meet new people, I
love to do different thingsevery day, right?
So when it comes to retail, youdo the same thing every day and
to a certain extent, you seethe same medications all the
time.
It doesn't change, it doesn'tchange that much from day to day
.
And the same thing.
(03:02):
With the insurance company youdid the same thing every day
nine to five.
And it with the insurancecompany, you did the same thing
every day, nine to five.
And it's kind of it's just likeso I don't know so boring.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Okay, so then from there you.
You said you were a realtor,right yeah, so I'm still doing
that.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm a real estate agent okay, and what was so?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
what do you like about being a realtor or don't
like about being?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
a realtor.
I like making money.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is the money better?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So you know, okay.
So a real estate agent iscompletely different, right?
So to be a successful realestate agent, you have to be
sociable.
A lot of my money, a lot of myincome comes from my friends and
people I've met at the bar.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I've met All right, so you were telling me.
So I was saying that I thinkyour personality lends itself to
you know, being like a goodrealtor, because you get to meet
people, you get to go out andtalk to them and, like you said,
I don't think that that makesit boring, because, no matter
what situation you're in andwhere you go, you can always
potentially meet a client.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Correct, Correct.
So yeah, so real estate is fun.
It's fun, I mean it's fun.
It can be stressful as well,but it's it's more.
I feel more fulfilled doingreal estate than I did being a
pharmacist.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's good.
I'm like that's what you wantin life anyways.
Right, you want to be fulfilledand enjoy what you do.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, so it's a little less money, but it works.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And how long have you been doing real?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
estate.
I've been doing that for fouryears now.
So I actually, when I firststarted, I was doing pharmacy at
the same time as I was doingreal estate, so I was doing both
.
I had no life Like.
All I did was like look uphouses and go to work.
Yeah, that was crazy, but Iactually did fairly well those
(04:47):
two or three years that I wasdoing it like together and now I
actually like cut down on mypharmacy and now I do a real
estate full-time and I dopharmacy part-time.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, I was.
I was going to ask him like areyou still a practicing
pharmacist?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I want to keep it, you know, because I spent so
much, so many years going toschool yeah, I'm sure a lot of
money.
So it's kind of like you knowno, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And then, uh, you said you did something else.
What else do you do?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
yeah, so now I'm actually looking towards, um,
starting up a tax business.
I actually just got back from atax conference, uh, this past
week in Vegas, which was lots offun, and I met a lot of people
who are also doing taxes andthey have their own business,
and there's so many things youcan do.
I learned so much and I'm verymotivated now.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So what do you have to do to be able to do taxes,
like what kind of schooling orcertification?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You have to be a CPA, but you actually don't.
You can just be a tax preparerokay and you just get like a
certified annually and you haveto work under somebody.
But you can like say, get a jobat h&r block seasonally and
then they.
I think they pay you hourly,but there's some companies who
will pay you per tax return,which is better than working
(06:02):
hourly, because they make a tonof money off of you.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
When they prepare your taxes.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, heck yeah, cause you can make,
like say, a tax return, aregular W-2, you could charge
potentially like $200,.
Right, okay, that takes you 15minutes, if even.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's.
That's not bad for 15 minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's not bad at all, it's.
It's way better.
It's way better.
If you do the math, I make waymore money than pharmacy or real
estate probably put together.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So, with that just being like a tax preparer, you
can't do that on your own,though can you with your own
clients?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Actually, I'm looking into the logistics of it
because I'm not really sure howthat's going to work.
I have somebody one of mymentors.
He has his own tax business andso he's going to walk me
through everything, but he wantsme to open a franchise under
his company.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So if I do that, then he'll just like facilitate
everything for me, or I couldjust start it by myself.
So I'm looking into the detailsof what would be more cost
efficient for me and what wouldlike be the best way for me to
get started okay.
Well, now you'll be doing threedifferent things yes, correct
okay, so I mean, I'm what thereason for me doing this is,
because I really want to leavethe pharmacy altogether okay, so
(07:15):
you want to have, like, asecondary ideally I would want
to um, yeah, just leave pharmacyaltogether and not think about
it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay, so let's move away a little bit from like a
business perspective.
Obviously, you have your handsin a bunch of, like you know, a
bunch of different pots.
No, that's okay.
I'm like you know it's good tounderstand what, like, what
makes you tick and what you liketo do.
But I also want to know what doyou like to do when you're not
working, like, what interestsyou, what, uh, gets you exciting
(07:47):
?
You know to like do stuff I do.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I love to work because, um, like I said, and
then maybe that's why I wentinto into real estate because
I'm working and I'm making moneyat the same time and so I grew
up low income, right?
So low income, you don't have alot of money, you.
You constantly have to worryabout, like, where your next
paycheck is coming from, right?
So I do appreciate, I think I'mstill not.
(08:12):
You know, I make a lot of money, but I don't.
I don't feel that I'm where Iwant to be.
So I do want to continue makingmoney until I I reached my goal
, which I don't really have agoal yet.
My goal is to never worry aboutmoney, ever.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Isn't that everybody's goal?
That'd be nice.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well, I mean, I'm serious about it.
A lot of people say that, right, they're like oh yeah, I want
to be a millionaire, but theydon't do anything to become a
millionaire.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Right, you can't play the lottery and expect to be a
millionaire Exactly to make thathappen.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
so I'm setting myself up to be a millionaire,
hopefully, hopefully, soon,maybe.
Uh, my goal would ideally wouldhave been before, like 35, but
now we're a little past thattime, so that's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
There's no rush like you're still young I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So that's another thing.
People are always like oh youknow, there's no, there's no
rush right there, you're not ina hurry.
But you should be in a hurrybecause, say, I'm a millionaire
when I'm 60, who cares?
I'm 60 years old.
I don't know that I'm gonnahave the kind of energy I have
now.
I want to have money now so Ican do the things I want to do
now.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I do like now, when I'm like 70, 60, 50, 45.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I want to do it now now I hear you.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'm like if I can have um that kind of life where
I don't have to work, yeah, I'dappreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I love the rockstar lifestyle.
It's, um, you know, here andthere I'll quit.
You know the pharmacy andeverything, and I'll just do
whatever for a few weeks.
And it's amazing.
I love it.
I always find stuff to do.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It seems like you do.
It seems like you do.
And I'm sure you have a prettygood plan to be a millionaire
sometime soon.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, so God willing soon.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah Well, I wish you the best and I can't wait to
hear when you hit that firstmillion.
I'm sure my sister will tell meThank you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay, so I like to start off super, super easy.
I like to know what was thevery first tattoo that you got.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Okay, so my very first tattoo.
I think I was 18.
My, my coworker, was like hey,I'm going to get a tattoo.
You guys want to come with thisguy's giving us a really good
deal.
It was like 50 bucks orsomething, or maybe 80.
So this guy did a tattoo.
It was we all got little stuff.
I don't remember what they got,but I got my daughter's name
and I think he added a butterfly.
He said I'm going to hook youup, so we put a little butterfly
(10:23):
at the end.
And then he's like you knowwhat, since he did three of us,
he said you know what, if youguys get another tattoo out,
it's free.
Wait, you got two.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You got two for the price of one.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah.
So then I got another one.
I didn't know what to get.
I was like, oh, I'll do a halfmoon, half sun, right, so he did
, it was okay.
So this was like, this was likethe trashiest tattoo ever.
Um, I got it.
When you call a tramp stampokay is that?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
is that where you got the moon?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I didn't know, it was a tramp stamp.
Nobody told me that I was 18years old.
And he said well, you know,it'd look really nice on your
lower back.
And I said, oh, okay, sure, noidea, no idea what I signed up
to, um, but yeah, whatever, wegot it done.
And and then, um, actually, youknow my, my parents, you know,
they're Mexican old schoolparents.
I didn't want to tell them thatI got a tattoo, even though I
(11:16):
was 18 already.
So I was like avoiding tellingthem because I was like they're
gonna find out and you know I'mgonna get in trouble.
So we went to a, to a partywith my mom and I took my
daughter.
My daughter was like five atthe time and I was like, mom, I
have something to tell you,because I know she wasn't going
to hit me in front of people.
(11:36):
You know, like mom, I havesomething to tell you.
She said that you got a tattooand I was like yeah, how do you
know?
And she's like well, yourdaughter told me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That she saw you had, you know, something on your
back and I was like, oh, so youalready knew.
And she's like, yeah, she'slike you know, like whatever you
know, I can't believe you'redoing that stuff, but it's fine,
you know, and she wasn't as madas I expected.
(12:07):
And how long was it from thetime that you got your tattoo to
the time your mom found out?
It was probably like within amonth.
Yeah, because I couldn't.
You know, I can't.
My parents and I are very close.
I can't keep stuff from them,so I was like you know, I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
You know, even though I knew that they weren't going
to agree with it, I still wantedthem to know.
Yeah, no, I think you know usas Mexicans.
We kind of have a similar storywith that.
You know, obviously I held outa little bit longer than you did
.
Mine was like two years.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
How long was that?
Two years before they knew yeah, Holy F Wait.
Where did you get your firsttattoo then?
Oh Could you hide it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It was super easy because the very first tattoo
that I got was I got binary codeon the inside of my arm for my
son's name and I got binary codeon my ribs for Janelle's name
and those were super easy tohide, right.
But my next piece was like thatPolynesian tattoo that I have
on my arm that goes from the topof my shoulder to almost to my
(13:03):
elbow, and I hid that for twoyears with uh, three-quarter
sleeve shirts, and then forthree years two years, two years
two years wow yeah, then Ifinally just uh, let it out what
did they say?
I'm like I don't know, because Iwant to.
Then I showed them the otherones.
They're like okay, I like those, and now it's just, I don't
(13:24):
think they do care but, yeah Ithink I got like six more since
the last time they saw me.
Oh wow, the small ones.
But well, one big piece and acouple small ones.
But yeah, I did hide it for acouple of years oh, my god, well
, see mine.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Like, I do have them in places where I can hide them
because I'm still, like you know, technically I'm still a
professional Right and you know,even though everybody's like,
oh, let's move towards that,that trend where it doesn't
matter what you look like, right, and to a certain extent you're
right, you're right, but at thesame time, tattoos kind of have
like this like almost like ataboo right, because you don't
(13:58):
know where these people gotthese tattoos Right.
I got this tattoo in prison.
You know they were like so you,yeah, it's still a little bit
(14:27):
of like I don't know their babymama's name or something like
that, or you know.
So I think I would be like youknow what I'm.
Okay, I don't want you to treatme.
It sounds like I said it'scontroversial and people are
gonna be like, well, you're ahypocrite, but at the same time
it's like dude, come on, yougotta like.
You know, think about this.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
No, I get it.
People still have that kind ofmisconception and I think it's
more towards like professionaltype of jobs, like when you're
and more like doctors, you know,maybe lawyers or something like
that, where you look at it,where you know if you're looking
at someone who's like asoftware engineer, you're not
going to care right Becauseyou're dealing with software.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You'd be like, oh, that's cool, but like you said,
if you look at it, a doctor, IfI see people who are, like, say,
artists who have a bunch oftattoos, I'm like, oh my god,
that's so cool, like I feel likeI would be more willing to have
.
Like, for example, like mytattoo artist has a bunch of
tattoos, right, so I feel safequote-unquote that he's doing my
tattoos because he's also gottattoos, you know yeah.
(15:26):
So if he didn't have tattoos,you'd probably be like oh, I
don't know if I want a tattoo bythis guy yeah, and like it's
totally understandable.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You know, we still have those misconceptions and,
like you said, I don't, I don'tthink I look at maybe, maybe I
haven't thought about it likethat where well, think about it.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So think about it.
So say, say, a neurosurgeon,right, somebody who's going to
operate on your brain.
You, you know, they come to you, you, they greet you, right,
they greet you.
They're, you know, in a suitand tie and their white coat,
but they have like a tattoo on.
You know, they're completelyshaven and they have tattoos on
their, you know, on their skull.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Like would you be, like yeah, I'm just going to, or
, you know, and piercing, youknow you're going to be like I
would say my younger selfprobably would have had the same
kind of outlook that you do nowyeah but my new self,
especially after you know, doingthis podcast and you have the
uh, you know the time and the,the ability to sit with people
(16:24):
and talk to them about theirtattoos I I've kind of taken a
step back and not necessarilyjudge someone right away,
because you don't know thestories behind their tattoo.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like what if the reason he has tattoos on his
head is because maybe he had abrain injury that he recovered
from and that's his way ofexpressing that he recovered
from that?
Like we don't know?
Yeah, that's true of meetingpeople, and sitting down and
hearing their stories has mademe less judgmental of what
people get and maybe morecurious of the story behind it.
(16:56):
Versus judging like, oh, Iwould never get that, I can
still say like I would never getthat.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's true.
That is a good point.
I do see a lot of peoplegetting tattoos for their, you
know, their relatives or or,like you said, something that
triggered them, something youknow, yeah, and I think now.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's just more that now, instead of judging and me,
you know, being all high andmighty like, oh, it's more like
I want to know what that, whythat's there and what's the
reason behind it.
So I have a different approachnow and I think this podcast has
helped me kind of look atthings and that's you know that
way yeah, and I think that'sfair.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's fair.
I haven't.
I didn't think about it thatway.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, and also like that.
That has helped me just look atlife in the same kind of
perspective.
Instead of making that initialjudgment, you kind of just maybe
you should ask a questionbefore you judge somebody.
That's just.
I think, what I've learned fromdoing this is that everybody has
different ways of expressingthemselves, and when people
choose to put a tattoo on theirbody, they're telling a story
(17:57):
with it and that's their way ofexpressing it, and sometimes
it's pain, sometimes it justshows um they're, you know, like
free spirit of adventure.
So you don't know, and that'swhy I'm like I said, that's why
I love doing this, and it'sreally helped me change my
perspective on how I view peopleof all walks of life nowadays
yeah, no, you're right, I thinkthat's.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Uh, tattoos are a lot more common than they used to
be.
I think somebody somebody justmentions me they wanted to get a
tattoo, I think, today okay, Ithink one of my friends.
She was just like she had alittle tattoo and she's like oh,
you know, I know, I think Iwant to get another one.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So here's the one that I want to know about.
Next is tell me why and wheredid you get your echo?
In Mexico, because I think as.
Mexicans, we all.
I don't even think I got totake that back, it's not even as
Mexicans.
I just think as, like humans,who, who connect with you, know
their nationality.
Humans who connect with you,know their nationality,
regardless of what it is, alwayshave a tendency like, they want
(18:54):
to like, represent.
And I wanted to do that and Ichose not to.
I chose to do it a differentway, but I want to know from you
what does that mean to you andwhere did?
You get it.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So I used to work at a bar and I would get a lot of
people who would say, oh, areyou?
Are you Mexican?
You know?
And that's always been aquestion everybody always asks
me, like if I'm mexican, or ifI'm like, what's your ethnicity?
Like you know, I guess I couldbe anything.
So I think I just got tired oftelling people that I was
mexican, so I just got a tattooon my, on my boob, on the left
side of my boob, um, and thenjust uh, whenever people would
(19:28):
just say, hey, like what are you?
You I'd just show them my boobsand they'd be like, oh, okay,
and it's like at the top right.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Like the very top of it where you can just easily
show them.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It was marketing.
Yeah, well, yeah, when we usedto work, we would always wear it
because you're running around,so usually you just get like you
wear like a muscle tee.
What bar did you work at?
Uh, I work here.
Well, here, my hometown um, itused to be called the midtown
bar and grill okay so, yeah, soit was like a dive bar.
(20:01):
It was like one of those barswhere you would have like
somebody who made like you know,like a million dollars and then
somebody who probably washomeless, hang out together in
the same bar and doing karaoke.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That sounds fun.
Karaoke is always fun.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, it was a really it was a really fun bar.
It was um, it was good.
I think we made we made it apoint to make sure everybody
felt welcome and accepted andeverybody was like really nice
to each other.
It was a really good bar andwhen you got it, did it um, did
(20:37):
it hurt, um?
Actually, I don't think so.
I think that was probably oneof the least ones that hurt.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
What about your first one?
How was that one, especially onthe lower back um.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You know what I don't remember.
I don't I think it did hurt,but I don't think it was like so
bad is that long ago.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And then, what did your mom say when, uh, she saw
the hecho en mexico?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
uh, well, actually I think after that she was
probably like she lost all hopein me already.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So she was kind of like whatever, whatever you want
, you know I think I thinkparents at one point just kind
of give up and they're like,yeah, I think I can do about it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
She already gave up and you know what?
Honestly, I don't even know ifshe knows I have it really yeah,
you know what?
I don't even know.
You know she probably has.
She has to know.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Honestly, I've never even asked her maybe you should
ask her like mom, have you seenthis?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
she's probably gonna be like whatever you ever do,
whatever you want he's probablylike yeah, I already know,
already know.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
She's like I know everything.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, probably.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That's how parents are.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, no, my mom's super like.
I mean, I don't think she wouldsay anything anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
No, probably not at this point.
I think you know, like you said, she's giving up.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, I'm not old enough, so if she says something
, I mean I'll be like really mom.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And then you have a cat on your back, right?
Yes, it's a pretty big cat.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
You think so?
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I would say so.
I think it's a prettydecent-sized cat.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, you know, I can't see it, it's on my back.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, Now it's a pretty good size.
So tell me about this cat.
Did you name it?
Does it?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
have a name.
So I had a cat maybe I don'tknow maybe seven years ago.
He is a black cat, his name isTaco and he ran away.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Taco.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, but he was my cat, so we got a pair.
It was him and his sister, sowe named them Taco and Belle,
for Taco Belle.
And so Taco was very caring.
He was one of those cats who,like, if you were sick, like he
would know you were sick and hewould stay with you and he would
make sure you're doing okay.
And he was my cat, so he wouldsleep with me.
(22:43):
He was very smart, but he alsohated attention and I ended up
leaving my.
I got my own house and I leftmy mom's house and I didn't take
him with me because I didn't.
I didn't want to.
I didn't know how to take careof a cat by myself.
I was living by myself, so Ididn't want him to be alone.
How?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
old were you when you moved to your first house?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
30.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Okay, and how long did?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
you have the cat before that.
So maybe like a year, maybe acouple years.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Okay, so not that long, yeah, so what'd you think
that he?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
died.
He got upset, but I left and heran away from your mom's house
yeah, he ran away, but then hewould come back and play with uh
, we have other cats, so, um, hewould come back and play with
them, you know, on on the front,on the front lawn, and then he
would leave how long?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
how long did he come back for?
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
he came.
He came back regularly, I think, uh, for my mom moved out of
there maybe three years ago, buthe would continue to come up
until my mom moved, and then youknow, obviously, if he went he
couldn't find the other cats,though and then, at what point
did you get the tattoo, likeafter well, I actually just got
that tattoo, maybe like thissummer okay maybe like a month
ago, maybe I asked you, I don'tremember is it, because I just
(23:58):
got it, because you missed him?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
huh, is it because you missed taco?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
um, I kind of I mean, sometimes I miss him, but I
think you know he was, you knowhe was ready to go, so you know
I probably wasn't a good, likeyou know, a cat mom, so that's
why he left for taco and so whatis?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
why did you put like um flowers?
And is it, does it meananything that you put a flower
inside?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
um, I already had flowers there, but I wanted I I
asked the guy to just like putsome flowers on there.
I think that was like thedesign.
I really liked it, just becausetaco was like a good cat.
He's very good, you know he'slike a.
You know, like I said, he waslike one of those cats who like
paid attention.
You know how everybody saysthat cats are assholes yeah, I
mean they can be, but they're,you know, they're also very like
(24:45):
caring sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's why they call them assholes yeah, yeah, yeah,
no, but they're, they can becaring, you know, it's just
however they're feeling yeah, weused to have a cat.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I miss it.
I miss having a cat.
They're cool yeah, that's,that's for sure and then so,
keeping on the theme of likewhat I see on your back and the
cat, so you have your.
That's where your daughter'sname is right, yeah, and then
you decided that you put like,um, like, a cherry blossom tree,
which is that's definitelypretty significant because it
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takes up the majority of yourback um, yes, I didn't think
about it that way.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I just told this guy I'm like hey, just I wanted a
cherry blossom and, uh, justhappened to be that size, I
don't know and what inspired thecherry blossom um, I think that
was after I watched that.
Um, that kung fu panda was thatis that.
What is the the one with thepanda, that tree?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
the, the pan, the um.
It was a cartoon kung fu panda,kung fu panda.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
What was it?
I don't even know the name ofthe movie really it was a panda
kung fu I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Panda with jack black .
Speaker 2 (25:55):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I said it's Kung Fu Panda with Jack Black.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, that one.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I think I got it after I got.
I want to say it was after thatmovie.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So what is it about the movie?
Obviously, the movie inspiredyou to get that tattoo.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I mean, I thought the cherry blossom looked really
cute.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, the cherry blossom tree was.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, it was pretty significant it looked pretty
right when the little turtle was, I don't know, saying something
philosophical, and then he justdied.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, he kind of went into little particles.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, it was a nice way to die right.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
It was.
But yeah, I'm like, I've alwaysloved cherry blossom trees.
So that was the inspiration forthat cherry blossom.
Yeah, yeah, and how long didthat take?
Because it looks like itprobably took a good, a good
while to do that, because it'slike I said, it's a pretty large
piece on your back yeah, I haveno idea.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Honestly I don't remember.
I I'm not like, I'm not verydetail oriented, I don't
remember it could have been, Idon't know.
I honestly don't even rememberwhen I got it.
And then Because it's been thatlong.
Yeah, sometimes this wasprobably done like maybe 10
years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I think once you start getting past like
three or four tattoos, you tendto forget when you got them and
where you were.
You know they've got to bepretty significantly important
for you to remember that.
But after a while, yeah, youstart to lose track of where you
yeah, yeah, I don't rememberand what's at the base of the um
of the cherry blossom tree,because it looks like it is that
(27:35):
you said you have a bird?
Is that where?
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
yeah, there's some kind of bird.
So actually that one I didn'treally like that much.
Um, I, um, I think I justwanted to get a tattoo and then,
um, I asked the artist to likedraw something up and he was
just kind of like, well, youhave to tell me what you want.
I don't really know, and I'mlike.
So I just he was like, hey, youknow, we can do this bird and it
has like a time clock on it andI'm like yeah, I was gonna ask
(27:59):
you what that was but actuallydidn't really like it that much
and then you incorporated theyeah, I was like at this point
I'm gonna have to cover up mywhole back because it's already
there, because it just looksweird how it's, you know,
halfway done.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So that that was my goal behind that, which I still
need to do, probably more I dolike the way that, like the
cherry blossom, kind of blendsin with your daughter's name.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah.
And then Actually, because thatwas added later and that was a
different tattoo artist.
So I think I've tried likethree different tattoo artists
now and everybody has their ownstyle.
Like you see the butterflies onmy daughter's name, like I
wanted butterflies and I I toldthis guy I was like, okay,
(28:46):
whatever you do, I do not wantany stars, no stars.
And he said, okay, okay, I gotyou, tell me why.
He's like you know, I'm gonnado something very special for
you.
You know you don't have to payextra or whatever.
And I'm like, okay, sure, tellme why he puts a bunch of
fucking stars.
I was so mad, the little babystars, I hated those.
(29:06):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I don't get that when you ask him like I don't want
this, and then they put it on.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, so actually recently, and actually I think
the one that you see I had thosechanged over, some of them, um,
and you know what you?
Probably I wouldn't I don't seethem in this picture, but I had
this guy make some of the starsinto hearts instead of stars
okay.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Do you think you're gonna change all your stars into
, like hearts or flowers orsomething else?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
um, yeah, I want to, because I I really didn't want
any stars at all.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I was specific about that why don't you like the
stars?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I don't know.
I just think that they look.
I don't know they look.
I feel like everybody getsstars.
You know, I think it's so basic.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well, I think stars are part of like American
tradition tattoos, like that'show they fill in space, so
that's why you see them.
A lot is when you see inAmerican tradition from, at
least if I can remember properly.
So I'm pretty sure it's correct, because I was talking to one
of my tattoo artists who wasdoing work on me.
His dad was getting a sleeveand he's like yeah, I got a
(30:11):
phone with stars and like dotsand stuff and that's like
American tradition.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, that's what they use for like filler.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
But yeah, I still think it's kind of shitty.
Thats for no stars.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I mean, you end up with stars.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, it's like yeah, I'm gonna do something really
special for you.
I'm gonna give you exactly whatyou didn't want yeah, exactly,
so that was that.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So I think after that that was the last time I went
to that tattoo artist.
Did he do anything else did?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
they do anything else for you, or just no?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
no, I actually I did.
I think you know what.
I think he actually did do soon the right side of my booth,
since I already had that on theon the left.
On the right hand side, I hadhim do like um, did you ever
watch zena the warrior princess?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
yeah, who hasn't back in the day?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
yeah.
So you know how she has likeher armor, kind of like has like
um like.
You know how it's her armor,the gold part of it.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
It kind of seems like a design around her boobs, so I
had that tattooed on On theother side.
On the other side.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Okay, and so why did you put that one on there?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
um, because I thought I thought it looked pretty and
I feel like I wanted to even itout with the other side okay,
and now?
So when you look at it now, andnow I feel like, because I got
that one and it's bigger thanthe other side, now I feel like
the other one I have to fill itin which side the hecho, mexico
side or the shield side?
yeah, the hecho mexico, I wasthinking about getting like a
similar kind of like um asimilar style, but like made out
(31:44):
of out of flowers okay yeah, sothat I'm gonna add that on
there.
I just need it.
I need to talk to that guyagain, but I just haven't gotten
around to it.
But he really liked doing myboob and it was just kind of
like doing, really like chillmaybe he just really liked it, I
don't know yeah, yeah so whendo you um?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
do you have plans on getting that anytime soon?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I do, I do.
I just haven't like like I'mall over the place, like you can
tell, probably.
So I'm all over the damn place.
So I'm just kind of like,whenever, like something, just
like, say, like one day, like ona random day, I'll be like okay
, I'm to get a tattoo today, andyou know it's whoever is
available, so whoever isavailable that day at that time,
because if they're notavailable then I lose the you
(32:29):
know.
I lose momentum and interest,and then I won't do it anymore,
until whenever I'm ready to doit again.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So, like touching on that, do you have like any of
the tattoos that you currentlyhave because of that, the nature
of you kind of beingspontaneous on them, other than
the stars.
Do you have anything thatyou've put on that you're like
shit.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I shouldn't have got that like I should have waited,
or maybe just not gotten it umwell, I mean, I I think like my
half moon, half star.
Uh, I have a half moon, halfsun on my lower back okay, the
one that you got for free huhthe one that you got buy one,
get one free yeah, my buy one,get one, my free.
So so it was like, really, itwas like really it wasn't good,
(33:12):
it was really bad.
So I had the same guy.
I'm like, hey, man, you likefuck me up, can you redo this?
He's like, well, you know, inorder to cover it up, I'm gonna
have to do a really big tattoo.
And I was like, ok, fuck it,whatever, whatever it takes,
just cover it up.
I need this.
So he covered it up, and soit's a huge, huge tattoo on my
lower back.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
What did he cover?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
it up with Huh.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
What's the cover up?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So it's the same thing.
It's just a half moon, half sun, but it's a more detailed one.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Where the other one was just the outline.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
This one's actually like detailed, it's got like
it's completely filled in.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Do you have color in it?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
No, no color at all, it's just black and white, black
and gray.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
And how do you feel about that after he uh covered
it?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
okay, but I feel like I feel like I wish that I had
just not done it and I couldhave just done it correctly and
had somebody who actually, like,had better skills doing it, and
then it would look better,because it just doesn't look so
if you, if you can cover that upright now with something else,
what would it be that you wouldwant?
I mean, I'd probably get thesame thing, just just like a
(34:18):
better quality.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Would you just turn that into like an Aztec calendar
?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I don't think so.
I think it would be.
So I think, unless I trustedsomebody to do it, like do a
really great job, I don't thinkI would want to risk it Because
I think it would be like a verydifficult tattoo.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
That is a very difficult tattoo.
Yeah, I don't want to fuck itup, you know, but that would be
like a very difficult tattoo.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
That is a very difficult tattoo, but yeah, I
don't want to fuck it up.
You know like but that would bea badass tattoo, yeah you just
gotta go to the right personsomebody who was really amazing,
like I trusted them completelythen, then no, I wouldn't get it
redone okay, when are you goingback to california to see my
sister?
Um, I have no idea.
She's always asking about it,but I'm like, well, what are we
(35:02):
gonna do?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
because she's you guys, well, where she lives,
it's kind of um yeah, it's inbetween, like san diego and la,
and we're in the desert yeah,yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So there's not a lot of stuff to do, so whenever we
do go, we meet in la okay, whatyou should do is next time you
go to la you should go and seemy tattoo artist and have him do
an astid calendar you think so,but I don't know if he can
cover mine up, because it'sreally bad, like I don't think
you understand.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Well, we can always we can always show it to him.
He like he does um all this.
Well, the stuff that he did forme was all like hand drawn with
like a little protractor andlike uh scientific glasses to
like oh, really wow this guy'samazing okay, you gotta send me
his name, I will I'll give him alittle shout out to my boy, ami
, who I'm gonna go see inseptember, because he's got to
(35:51):
do my uh, he's got to do myshading on my arm and probably
do a little bit more no, really,but yeah, I think if you're
looking to do a nice cover-upwith detailed work like Ask that
Calendar, I think he candefinitely do that for you.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Okay, I'll look into it.
That's something definitelythat I need to like plan out,
but something like that wouldtake planning, because I'm
assuming somebody like him isvery like busy and probably has
appointments like months out,right yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It's just.
But with him it's kind of easybecause it's you know, from
dealing with him a few times.
Basically, you give him an ideaand then he's like, all right,
let's go, because he does it allbased off of he doesn't for the
stuff that I've done and forlike some of the other things
that I've seen he doesn't drawcompletely.
He sees your body and startsdrawing it and then, next to you
(36:45):
know, you have like thisbeautiful piece of artwork.
Okay, okay, I gotta see hiswork.
Yeah, I'll send you, I'll sendyou his link and then, uh, you
can, or his page, and then youcan look at what he does.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
yeah, okay, okay, because I have gotten some
people who are like, oh, you gotto check out my tattoo artist,
and then I go to them and thenit's like not really that good.
No, it happened yeah.
That's how that first tattoocame on.
They're like oh yeah, this isgoing really good.
Buy one, get one.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, for anyone listening, I would not trust
anybody that's buy one, get one.
That's definitely one thing youdon't want to do.
From, I would say from my ownpersonal experience and the
people that I've spoken to, isdefinitely don't cheap out on
your tattoo artists, becausethat shit's permanent and you
(37:27):
get what you pay for.
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yes, yes, you're right, you get what you pay for.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
If you pay 50 bucks, you're going to get a $50 tattoo
.
Yep and that same tattoo couldcost you $300 from somebody else
, and there's just, there's justlevels to that game.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
You know and like.
The other thing is likeeverybody has at least one or
two tattoos that they're like.
I wish I had that a little bitbetter, right.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's true and you'reright, it's just about like
planning and actually, like youknow.
And then some guys, you knowit's tricky, but you're right,
it just comes down to the price,because some people well, I
mean not all the time sometimesyou get people who are good and
you know they're not superexpensive, but most likely, if
they're not that good, they'regonna be like oh yeah, we'll
give you a deal.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, exactly, you don't want that's definitely you
don't want to skimp on on yourtattoo artist.
So I would think and being themost expensive isn't always the
best either, you you know,because they could just be
well-known.
And meaning like the best,meaning like that just might not
be your style and then youmight not end up liking it,
because some people are very.
(38:28):
They only like doing certainstyles of tattoos and they don't
really like to change.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah.
I've noticed that.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, because I think what it is is like you're,
you're sticking to theirwheelhouse, right?
What they're good at, so that'swhy they tend to do the same
type of work is because that'stheir specialty.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
And that's what they're good at.
They shy away or like if theydo anything outside of that.
It's probably not as good astheir normal work, because
that's just not what they do.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay, that makes sense.
And then are we missinganything else?
Or did we cover all the tattoos?
I don't know.
You're the one who I don't knowwhat.
So we got.
What did we miss?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
yeah, so we, we've covered that.
You the the big cherry blossomwith your cat.
We have your daughter's name,we have the butterflies.
Well, what do the butterfliesmean to you?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
um.
I like butterflies becausethey're free just like free
spirited flapping their wingsmaking change in the world.
The butterfly effect um, Idon't know what, not about
changing the world, but justabout being free like
butterflies.
They're kind of on their ownand they just like just fly by
themselves and do their ownthing and okay.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
So we're having a couple of technical difficulties
out here today, Lost power forthe second time, but yeah, I
guess we're coming pretty muchto a tail end of your tattoos
and hopefully what I would liketo happen is hopefully I can
connect you with my guy Ami, youcan kind of check out his work
(39:58):
and maybe when you're next timeyou're in LA you can pay him a
visit and get a nice cover forthe sun and moon.
That seems like it's been aconstant non.
It hasn't really metexpectations.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yes, correct, it is a difficult tattoo because it's,
you know, I think it's becauseit's also so big that you know
you really have to like payattention to details.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, you know, but you know, kind of like we talked
about some, some artists areworking outside of there I would
say probably their theirwarehouse and are taking on
projects that are probably toobig for them.
Yep, but hopefully, you know,we can step in and help you out
and get you have a, you know,get you a nice piece that you
can be proud of showing off thatyou won't have to get covered
up again.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
I don't know if I'm ever going to be proud of
showing off my tramp stamp.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Well, at that point it's just going to be a piece of
art and it's no longer a trampstamp.
When you change it from one toanother, it's not the same thing
anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, I hope so.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, same here.
Well, nayeli, thank you forspending your weekend time with
us here on the show and I reallyappreciate you being here and
sharing your stories.
Okay, thanks for having me.
All right, and this has beenanother episode.
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