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February 18, 2024 47 mins

When Steve Abbey turned his health hurdles into a holistic wellness revolution, he didn't just create a product, he sparked a movement. In our latest conversation with Steve, we delve into the genesis of his comprehensive health product and its roots in real adversity. Through his story and the science-backed wisdom he shares, you'll see how whole foods and essential nutrients like vitamin B12, K2, and D3 can fill the gaps left by conventional health approaches, and why the choice of supplements, from organic mushrooms to low heavy metal options, could be the key to unlocking optimal health.

This episode isn't just about theory; it's about tangible results. We explore the astounding health benefits that come from incorporating nutrient-rich smoothies into your daily diet, as evidenced by a study involving a tree trimming service team. Imagine experiencing reduced inflammation and improved blood sugar control by sipping on a delicious smoothie every day – this isn't just a dream. We discuss how Steve's product is designed to tackle common deficiencies, such as iodine, and the profound impact this can have on your health, from thyroid function to metabolic balance.

Tying it all together, we examine the balance of lifestyle choices in sustainable weight management and overall well-being. Discover how your body's natural equilibrium is disrupted by modern challenges, including endocrine disruptors and EMFs, and learn strategies for integrating fiber and tailoring nutrition to your life – whether you're aiming for weight loss or enhancing athletic performance. Steve's comprehensive approach to health is a testament to the power of combining a nutritious diet with exercise and a positive mindset, offering a transformative health experience that's more than just skin deep. Join us and be inspired by Steve's journey and insights – your body and mind will thank you.



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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone.
Today we are here with SteveAbbey, who has a pretty amazing
product, a one of a kind.
From what I can tell right nowon the market, and knowing and
having used many differentproducts like this in the past,
I'm very excited for him toexplain it to us today and give
us a little information abouthow he arrived at this.

(00:21):
Hey, steve, how are you doingGood?
How are you doing Ryan?
Great thanks.
So I'd like to just start outwith you telling us a little bit
about how you got on this pathto where you ended up with this
amazing product that we're goingto go over today and some other
things.
So go ahead and share aboutthat.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I had a host of health issues about 30 years ago
and actually it was 35 yearsago and one of them was
psoriasis.
I had reactive hypoglycemia, Ihad chronic fatigue.
I just I wasn't doing well atall and I was going to doctors
trying to figure out thesedifferent things and it just

(01:02):
wasn't working.
So I ended up deciding I needto take my health into my own
hands and I started just goingdown this path of researching
and really learning how to readpeer-reviewed published journal
articles and things like that,where I could really understand
what was behind everything.
And after I really solved myown problems, I just became

(01:26):
fascinated and started lookinginto cancer and heart disease
and diabetes and autoimmuneconditions and osteoporosis.
And I was just fascinated andwhat I noticed is all of these
things that were available, allthis information showing all
these things that we could do,was not being translated out
into the real world to beutilized by people.

(01:48):
So I have been passionate aboutthat and been taking courses.
I've worked with naturopathicdoctors, et cetera, et cetera.
But it wasn't until four yearsago I sold my last business,
which was a solar developmentbusiness.
I sold that and I decided Iwasn't, I was basically retired
and then I was like I still havea lot to give and I decided to

(02:12):
do something with all thisknowledge that I've been looking
into.
And the thing that pushed meover the line is I was part of
the team that helped a couple ofreally close friends of mine go
through the last months oftheir life and they were dying
of preventable diseases, and thelast one just was devastating

(02:33):
for me and I was just like okay,so there's so much that we can
do to prevent these things fromhappening.
I spent literally four yearsdesigning and developing what I
have now so that these thingscan be prevented, and it's all
from Whole Foods and it's verydifferent product and it's very
comprehensive.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Nice, yeah, no, I was looking at it.
I was looking at your websiteand everything.
I was very impressed by howcomprehensive it was.
We actually, at the practicehere, have a greens that we use
and I was doing a comparison ofhow we've got it's got half the
things that your product has init, right.
So, yeah, it's really is verycomprehensive.

(03:15):
Can you talk about how you cameto making it so robust and
where that's headed now for yourproducts?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I really wanted to make sure certain things were in
it and there were certainthings that were out of it.
So I don't add any sodium, ofcourse, because the American
diet is chock full of sodium,chock full of sodium and we have
too much as a whole, right, itdoesn't mean that under certain
circumstances, if you're a highlevel athlete, you might want to
take a sodium in some form forthat specific event, but in most

(03:47):
cases, americans don't need it,so you don't need fluoride.
In my opinion, that's crazy toput something.
These are all RDA things, right.
You don't need phosphorus, etc.
Choline, you just don't needthese things.
But what you do need are thingslike especially if you're plant
based, you need vitamin B12.
Almost all Americans needvitamin K2.

(04:07):
And most people don't even knowit.
Almost all Americans needvitamin D3.
Or that would be the best formof supplemental if you're not
getting sunlight.
And the CDC has done like ananalysis of where Americans sit
with vitamin D and where theystand, and only about 5% of them
get 35 nanograms per milliliter, which is still low, in my

(04:30):
opinion, based on what I've seenfor immunity, based on what
I've seen for bone health, basedon what I've seen for
prevention of cancer, thingslike that.
In my opinion it is all ofthese things are critical to get
in.
And there are all these otherthings that are not part of the
RDA.
Mushrooms are fantastic, andhaving a consistent form of

(04:52):
mushrooms for immunity and for awhole bunch of preventative,
such as cancer and things likethat, makes a lot of sense.
But then it's the type ofmushrooms that you have.
You want to have one that arehigh beta-glucan.
You want low starch, so it'snot ground up on the substrate
that it was grown on.
You want it organic, so it'snot full of toxins.

(05:14):
You want it low heavy metals,so you have things like that.
And there's just tremendousamount of research that goes
into these things and to me,I've been really trying to put
together a product that canreally change somebody's health
trajectory, and so that's how Icame to all these things.

(05:36):
I'll give you an example.
If you look at almost everyproduct on the market, it's
going to have, if it has avitamin C in it, of any amount,
that's going to have an impact.
Right, it's going to haveusually ascorbic acid or calcium
ascorbate or liposomal vitaminC.
Those all have a base ofascorbic acid and the difference
between whole form vitamin C,and that is very substantial.

(06:01):
And have you ever heard of howascorbic acid is manufactured?
Have you ever seen that?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, roughly.
There's a lot of chemicals usedin the process to end up with
that particular molecule, but ithas no bioavailability from my
understanding.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Exactly.
I'll tell you.
It all used to be made in aplant in New Jersey that's moved
over to China.
Now 95% of the world's supplyof ascorbic acid is made in
China, and what they do is theytake high-fructose corn syrup,
they put it under incrediblepressure, they put it under
incredible heat, they do anacetone wash and then they
neutralize it with hydrochloricacid and then in the end you

(06:38):
have a molecule that'schemically identical to what you
find in nature.
However, that alone has novitamin activity none, zero.
So you have to have all thecofactors bioflavonoids and
everything else for thatmolecule to be able to be used.
And if you look at how it worksin the body in studies, you can

(07:01):
find anything.
Some studies are going to showone thing, but most of the
studies show a very substantialdifference between dietary
vitamin C and whole form vitaminC.
I have one on my website, underthe research section, where
there's a study where it'slooking at the progression
towards heart disease asmeasured by the carotid artery,

(07:21):
the thickness of the carotidartery, and the people that had
the highest level of vitamin Cin supplemental form were moving
three times faster than peoplenot taking any vitamin C at all,
whereas people that had higheramounts of vitamin C in whole
food form were protected, albeitnot a big protective effect,

(07:42):
but it was protective as opposedto being detrimental.
And that's the thing.
Gently, getting normalphysiological amounts of
nutrients in a whole form way,with all the things, makes, in
my opinion, a huge difference inhow things are accepted,
absorbed and utilized by thebody.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, obviously it's an empirical fact with a study
like that that whatever's doneand whatever you get out of that
vitamin C quote unquote is notreally doing anything for you,
perhaps even harming so amazing.
Let me ask you this because alot of the audience that listens
to this podcast and the clientsthat are practiced are very

(08:23):
they want to make sure that theyhave high quality products and
that they're sourced very well,and I know you've done extensive
research and work to make sureyour product is very high
quality.
Can you tell us a little bitabout the ingredients, where
they come from and why they'reamazing so?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
it's what I set out to do and this was.
I was being a little bit of aperfectionist, so this is not
necessarily good from a businessperspective.
So what I wanted to do is makea product that really covered
people's bases and when theoriginal product?
So I'm making one that's goingto have flavorings and
sweeteners so that people canjust take it on their own.

(09:01):
Some people are taking thisjust by itself, but it was
really designed to be part of asmoothie.
And the reason why I designedthat?
Because if you make a healthysmoothie and you put this
product in, you are so far ahead.
There's only so much I can putinto a product, right.
But if you make, let's say, a16 ounce or 18 or 20 ounce

(09:22):
smoothie mixed with full greens,I already have greens.
I have a full serving in my.
Actually it's even a little bitmore than a full serving of
greens in the product.
But then you have greens on topof that, because only 3% of
Americans get their greens, only2% get their orange vegetables,
only 12% get their nuts andseeds, etc.
So what I do is I make a veryhealthy smoothie and then I add

(09:45):
this in.
So what does this do?
Let's say you have thisamazingly healthy smoothie
without my product.
You have all thesephytonutrients, right you are
covering.
And have you ever heard of thephytochemical index?
Have you heard of that?
I have not.
No, so the phytochemical indexis what percentage of a person's
diet are whole plant foods, notrefined grains, refined fats or

(10:09):
refined sugars, or even meat,dairy and eggs?
So all of that would not beconsidered whole plant foods.
So that's what we're looking atand there have now been a series
of studies out of theUniversity of Tehran Medical
Sciences University, which isone of the it's the most
prestigious university in thatpart of the world, but it's a
very prestigious.
Not it's not the number one inthe world, but it's very

(10:33):
prestigious.
But they've done a series ofstudies on the phytochemical
index and they were looking atit the highest compared to the
lowest quartiles, the highest25% compared to the lowest 25%.
And they looked at like breastcancer for women and they had a
92% lowering for the women inthe highest, which was I think
it was 42% of their diets werewhole plant foods, compared to

(10:56):
the lowest, which only had Ithink it was 14%.
So Americans on average are a12%.
So we're even lower than theirlowest quartile, just to give
you an example.
But then you looked at.
They looked at pre-diabetes andit was a 91%.
They looked at obesity it was a66% reduction.
They looked at hypertension itwas 48%.

(11:19):
So, starting out with a smoothie, a healthy smoothie that has a
nut or seed butter, a greens, Iusually throw a carrot in some
berries and I make it.
I put in cinnamon, I make itreally healthy.
You're starting your day with ahuge percentage of your diet
right there, with whole plantfoods.
My product's not even in it.

(11:39):
But then my product comes inand all of a sudden it has
mushrooms that aren't in normalsmoothies.
It has turmeric, which I'm sureyou know is fantastic from an
anti-inflammation et cetera,anti-cancer, things like that.
Then it has specific nutrients.
Say, you're not going to haveany iodine to speak of in a
normal smoothie, right, you'regoing to have tiny amounts.

(12:02):
But I have 170% of the RDA froma blend of three organic kelps
from Iceland, which are as faraway from Indian industrial
center.
It's a form that your body canhandle.
It's with a full spectrum ofminerals and a green leafy
vegetable.
It is very different thantaking potassium iodide.
It is not the same in terms ofhow gently it goes into the body

(12:25):
and really makes sure.
Then, for plant-based people, Ihave a vitamin B12 from
mushrooms that are grown on thebacteria that creates vitamin
B12 and it goes into there andit gets stabilized.
It's a whole form of B12 andI'm going to have.
What is it?
1800% of the RDA, because onlya small percentage gets absorbed

(12:46):
.
It's a water-soluble vitamin,et cetera.
I try and cover all thenutrients that are needed in a
whole form way, while coveringthem with the big things, like
it has a full greens blend in itwith cruciferous vegetables.
It has a berry blend, becauseberries are pretty much the most
nutrient dense fruits.
It has a probiotic and a 10billion CFUs of several bacillus

(13:09):
strains, which is great forrepopulating the gut.
What you really want are theprebiotics.
You want to feed what you have.
I have.
What is it?
Seven grams of fiber in it.
It's a huge amount of fiber andpre-fiber, and then it has
mushrooms, et cetera, et cetera.
I won't go on and on, but it'sa very comprehensive product.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, I was looking.
I have not seen a product likethis, to be honest, with this
many options in it.
Let me ask you about a couplethat I'm not familiar with, at
least how they're listed here.
There's one called ubiquinolwhat exactly?
I know it's an active form ofCoQ10, but how do you get that

(13:51):
in there and what is that therefor?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's not going to be in my new product and it's not
because it's not good.
It is a good thing.
It's super expensive.
So the reason why I put it inthere is because you bick when
all is the active form of coqten, just like you said, right,
and some people, especiallypeople that are Over fifty, five

(14:17):
, sixty, they start havingtrouble converting coq ten to
bick when all which is theactive form, which is what your
body uses to make a tp, and ifyou look at the amount of coq
ten or you bick when all In thebody, it starts going down,
especially in the places thatare really important, like the
heart, the liver, the kidneys.

(14:37):
This is really important.
So for older people that arehaving any sort of like ejection
factor of their heart, if theirheart is not pumping enough
blood and they need to up theiramount of you bick when all
would be the best way to get itand there's a company called
connect which is the onlymanufacturer of it on the planet

(14:59):
is extremely expensive.
There's a company that sellstablets of it and I can't think
of their name.
I think it's healthy origins.
Can you take very good way todo it?
So if somebody in yourlistening.
I have no connection with this,but I think it's called healthy
origin.
You can get it on amazon andthey sell hundred milligram
tablets of you bick, when allit's just a very good way of

(15:22):
Covering and helping the a tp inyour heart, as well as your
kidneys and liver and thingslike that, from really having
the energy to do what it'ssupposed to do, and I think that
is a critical thing.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Wow, that's amazing.
Yeah, that's new informationfor me.
That's Awesome, and thank youfor sharing how to get it in
where we can find that now.
When I heard you talk beforeand we're talking a little bit
before this you had some prettyamazing stories About people
using your product and gettingamazing results and changes in

(15:56):
their blood, work and health andall that.
Can you tell us a little bitabout that?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, I am running a couple of studies right now and
I have a friend who has a treetrimming service and you have
seventy guys that are in it andhe is going to have his weather
and his team wants to do it andthey're just gonna have a
smoothie a day and this is whatI've already done.
I'll tell you about that story.
But they're gonna just we'regonna take their blood in

(16:23):
advance and then they all theirteam, they have a ten o'clock
break and they're all gonna havea smoothie every day and then
we're gonna take their bloodagain.
And these guys I think some ofthem have diabetes.
I'm a hypertension and we'rereally going to see how much we
can change that and I'm gonnanot just do my product is.
Some of my future ones aregonna deal with blood pressure

(16:45):
and blood sugar support right,so I'm going to be adding
additional things in there Forpeople that don't have that.
We're just gonna follow themand see what happens their blood
.
Right now, we have been workingwith a guy for school on day who
is the host of animal planetdiscovery Shark week and he's

(17:05):
really fun, capable guy and wetook his blood.
I pitched him on this idea.
Hey, you got a big following.
Let me take your blood and seewhat it shows and then let's do
a smoothie for a few months andlet's see it again.
And he said Sounds great.
We took his blood.
I told him I don't know howmuch of a difference gonna make

(17:27):
because you're young, healthyguy.
I think he's thirty four nowand, as it turns out, he is
inflammation as measured bysomething called c react protein
, which is the red zone whichyou don't want to be in.
Starts at about three when itbe low right, and he was at ten
point nine.
So it was way too high and inthe we ended up having to stop

(17:51):
this a little early after sixweeks because you ended up going
on a shoot in australia andafrica.
So I said let's just take it,will see if anything happened.
It went from ten point nine toone point six and we just took
it again july thirty first andit was down to the less than
point two.
Now I don't know how it wasable to be quiet.

(18:13):
I didn't expect that big of aresult.
I don't know why it was so highto begin with, but he also
started out pre diabetic work.
As measured by a one c, it wasfive point seven, so it's just
inside of pre diabetic.
It dropped to five point zero,so very good result.
Then, etc, etc.
We had in oxidative stress, asmeasured by a pro stain, eight o

(18:35):
, h, d, g, etc, etc.
All these things got better.
Plus, we did a micronutrientpanel and he was out with five
of them.
Hundred percent of them got inafter in the july one.
So that was after almost sevenmonths of doing this.
But we had a really good resultand I want to do this and

(18:55):
really demonstrate it with alarger group of people, because
to me I'm just excited to seewhat can be done, especially
when people have issues likeDiabetes or hypertension,
because there's so much morethat we can do then just take
metformin or take just so manyof these drugs.
I think there's a tremendousamounts of other things we can

(19:16):
do before we go down that route.
I'm not Throwing drugs underthe bus, I'm just saying there's
.
There are other things we cando lifestyle wise.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
And yeah, just to be upfront,some of those drugs need to be
thrown under the bus.
But overall speaking, yeah,having a product that supplies
this amount of nutrients in awhole food form Pretty unheard
of, so I can see why you getthose type of amazing results.

(19:44):
That's really awesome, and I'mexcited to see what happens with
this other pilot group you'redoing as well.
See what their results are.
So let me ask you this youtouched on this earlier the
synthetic versus the naturalwhole food form of different
nutrients.
A lot of our clients and mylisteners are already familiar

(20:05):
or have at least an interest inmoving in that direction.
You mentioned vitamin C.
Is it as important with othernutrients as well, and other
different factors that are inyour product to the same degree,
or how does that work?
So?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
How do I say this?
It if somebody is getting afairly balanced diet but they're
low in, let's say, they haveplenty of vitamin C but they're
low in zinc, the vitamin Cthat's in my product is not
gonna be helpful for, but thezinc will be very helpful.
Or if they're low in iodine,because iodine, even though I'm

(20:46):
putting in 170% of the RDA, thereason is because there's so
many goiter gin.
So it's.
I have no idea what people aremissing.
I do know what percentage,according to the government,
each item is missing and I thinkthe amount that people are
accepting of iodine.
It used to be 4% of people werelow in iodine.

(21:09):
Then, in 1998, was seeing thathalf the amount of iodine that
was the way it's tested is inthe urine.
Right, people were excretinghalf the amount, which means
that they were getting half theamount of iodine in their diet.
Because I'd and I salt was notbeing used as much, which is not
a great form of iodine, by theway and because it's not

(21:30):
absorbed and it's got someproblems.
Let's just say that.
But there are all these goitergin as well.
We have chlorine, which is awhich we go to.
Gen is something that blocks theabsorption of iodine and I'm
three main substances that arethat Chlorine would be one,
bromide would be another andfluoride would be another.
And what is it?

(21:51):
65% of our water supply is nowfloridated, so that's right.
There is blocking a lot ofpeople and it goes into the
products for the people that arenot in that segment.
So if you buy a product that'smanufactured in michigan, where
it's highly floridated, andyou're in california, you're
still getting a lot of floridright and to me that's a I would

(22:14):
highly recommend people stayaway from floridated things.
I don't think that's a healthything.
That's just my opinion from allthe research I've done.
But you have all these thingsthat are blocking the absorption
of iodine.
So having a consistent, healthy, absorbable, natural source of
iodine Is the important, samething with zinc.

(22:36):
It's important for both men andwomen, but I'm gonna speak to
men just for a second.
There are all these peopletaking Testosterone cream right,
and it works.
It can work very well, but itin the biofeedback mechanism of
testosterone, so your body seesall I'm getting testosterone, so
I don't need to make it.
So it's only dodging this orinternal production goes down

(22:58):
often, so you end up becomingalmost addicted in a way to
getting the exogenous, notnecessarily the best way.
So there was a study for zincand it took.
It was a correlation study andit looked at how much zinc
people are getting, how muchtestosterone.
This is all for men and therewas a high correlation.
But correlation does not meancausation.

(23:20):
So they took a group of youngmen that had good testosterone
levels and they put them on azinc restricted diet.
I would not want to be on thestudy.
They lowered their testosteroneby seventy three point five
percent, wow.
And then they took men that hadlow testosterone and they gave
them 30 milligrams.
Their testosterone went up 92.5and those people Testosterone

(23:44):
levels crossed.
They don't need to take drasticamounts, just need consistent,
healthy amounts.
And you need it balanced withcopper Because those are
antagonistic towards each other.
So you need to have both oryou'll make yourself copper
deficient if you're just taking.
So there's a lot of thoughtthat goes into each and
everything and people, whatevertheir deficient, is what they

(24:09):
need.
If they're getting in theirdiet plenty of, let's say,
vitamin a, then adding morevitamin a Is not likely to hurt
them, especially in a plantbased form can hurt them if
you're getting in a differentform, but in a plant based form.
You're not in form of betacarotene or something like.
That is no routine or any ofthose Just not gonna get hurt.

(24:30):
But there are others that youcan have too much.
But that's what I'm trying todo is gently match all of these
different things for the thingsthat americans are deficient.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Wow, that's really awesome.
It's really amazing and thankgoodness you are.
It's an epidemic out there lackof nutrients and Everyone's
feeling and the other thing.
I'm just super impressed withyour knowledge base and all the
research you've done on this,and can you speak to a little
bit about how you gathered allthis information and develop the

(25:02):
research and what not?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
As it turns out, I have a curious mind and I have.
I've been studying it on my own, but I've also.
I go in and I go to conferences, I take classes, I I've worked
with naturopath and when I workwith somebody I share
information and there's just Ilove the collaborative thing
where you Share, cuz I am sureyou have a ton of knowledge that

(25:26):
I don't have and I'm sure if wechat we would figure out where
some of those things were and Iget really fascinated by that.
So, between the studying,working with people that are
very smart and just beingincredibly curious, I've just
collected all of this and then Istarted working with people and
trying to really create a wayfor them to proceed forward is

(25:50):
been a very learning experienceand I'm Even while I had other
businesses like.
The last one was a solardevelopment Company, which is
just not my passion.
I never really was doing it andit had some excitement to it
and there's some, but I don'treally care.
There's some good things aboutsolar, but there's some.
In my opinion, there bettertechnologies are very

(26:11):
alternative.
Then solar that's a wholenother thing, but this is
something.
That scene people get betterwhen they didn't know that they
could is a real excitement.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, amazing.
Let me ask you about this so alot of the clients that I work
with are interested in changingtheir body composition.
For guys, they want to put onmuscle, maybe lose some body fat
.
A lot of the women I work withwant to lose body fat.
Could be for Many differentreasons, whether it's just
health or it's because they wantto look better.
It's usually a combination ofall the above.

(26:44):
So how would your product lenditself towards assisting people
who are looking for that sort ofassistance?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
So when you're talking about losing weight, so
the first thing is having aLifestyle that this can be done
for a long time and it's veryhealthy.
So people can lose weight for ashort period of time doing a
restrictive diet or doing areally unique thing, but if it's
not part of their lifestyle,it's really not an effective way

(27:15):
to go.
So to me, critically importantis to understand what weight
loss is, what it is for them andwhat they are willing to do
that is projected out into thefuture.
So I'm just going to tell youwhat my beliefs on what weight
loss it or weight gain is, wherepeople are Having obesity and

(27:37):
what that is.
I know about Emotionalconnections with it and stuff
like that, but I'm not going tospeak about that aspect right
now.
What I'm going to talk about isit is a dysregulation, almost
always of the system.
We are built to be inhomostasis.
We are not built to gain extraweight.
And there were there have beenfeeding studies of prisoners

(27:59):
where they were force-fed likeliterally a hundred thousand
additional calories and theybarely gained any weight and
they hated it.
And Then, right at the end ofthe study, the few pounds that
they had gained, they lost andthey went right back.
So their system was regulatedand if you look back in history
and all the kings and queens, itwas Extremely rare for kings

(28:22):
and queens and all these royaltythat were having seven course
meals three times a day and allthis other stuff For to be
overweight.
There was King Henry the 8thand you had Louis Legroce, which
was Louis the fat, and thosewere like outliers, right?
What?
Why was that that so few ofthese eating tremendous amounts?
It's because they didn't havethe endocrine disruptors at that

(28:45):
time.
Their bodies were in Homostasisto a great degree.
Could they override that?
Could they get thrown off?
Yes, some people did, but itwas very rare.
It was not common.
In this country there was astudy done and I believe it was
the 1890s, and 1.07% of theadult population was considered
obese.
Today, according to the CDC,it's 41.9%.

(29:09):
That's now 2017 to 2020.
So you have this Gineormousincrease and it's just taken off
and the CDC is predicting by2030.
It'll be 50%.
So you have this and we're justgoing.
What's causing this?
Let me throw out a couple ofthings.
There's something called BPA.
I'm sure most you've seen BPAfree bottles and it's just.

(29:31):
It is a substance that isconsidered an endocrine
Endocrine disruptor or hormonedisruptor, and it impacts
something called adiponectin,and adiponectin is the diabetes
and Obesity hormone or one ofthem, but that's one of the main
ones.
It's called that like whenpeople refer to it, and that
gets impacted and loweredSubstantially, putting people at

(29:53):
much greater risk of developingobesity.
Then you're looking at thingslike EMF's and how that can.
If you look at pregnancy Ofwomen and their children being
followed out 12 years, thechildren that were exposed to
the most EMF's had substantially2.8 times the level of the low

(30:15):
exposure.
That's comparing one exposurelevel to another, not something
to nothing, but one to another.
So how do people, given all thisthing, how does somebody Deal
with this?
So there are many ways.
It's what they're willing to doand what fits into their
lifestyle.
One is you can preload yourmeals, preload it with water.

(30:37):
Half an hour before somebodyeats, drink 16 ounces of water.
It will impact Substantiallyhow much food you eat, even
though you're taking in nocalories.
Having being hydrated is great.
Also, eating low Chloricallydense foods such as an apple,
which is very low caloriccalorically in terms of the

(30:59):
amount of calories In thestudies done on those where
people ate an apple beforehand,like 20 minutes before, because
you want to eat it with enoughtime.
So it gets in and your bodystarts almost getting satiate,
even though it's triggering alittle bit of oh, I'm almost
getting ready to eat.
It will lower the how much youeat.
And when they did these studies, people ate about 200 calories

(31:19):
less during the meal.
So having a hundred caloriesactually impacted how much they
ate by 200 calories and it'ssuper healthy.
That's the sort of thing thatpeople can do.
And then you look at what arereally healthy diets.
You want to just have, from myperspective, really nutrient
dense foods that are lowcalorically.

(31:41):
And If you look at this, youlook at a strawberry.
If you were to have, let's say,if a man was eating 2200
calories, that's about 15stomach fulls of Strawberries.
You're never going to be ableto eat too many calories on
strawberries, right.
But if you look at how muchthat takes from an oil
perspective, it's a third,two-thirds a cup of oil would

(32:05):
cover that, it's something likethat.
I don't remember the exactamount, but the bottom line is
it takes drastically less.
Oil is a huge thing.
Refined oil and refined sugarmakes up 42% of the American
diet.
Refined grain makes up 20%, so62% has almost zero nutrition

(32:26):
and it has 62% of the calories,and so it puts people at risk of
developing Obesity as well as awhole bunch of other chronic
diseases.
So I could go on for hours onthat, but I didn't mean to spin
out on that.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
So, no, that's great, that's really good information,
and so your shake wouldobviously be Super, super dense
in nutrition and value there.
So that would help Counteract,as well as getting a healthy
diet in these things, and helppeople move towards weight loss.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Especially if they're low in specific nutrients,
because there's specificMicronutrients that when you're
not there, it triggers the bodyto be hungry.
But also I'll give you anexample if you look at iodine,
if somebody's low in iodine andtheir thyroid is not working
Adequately and they go intohyperthyroid, one of the side
effects of that is weight gain.

(33:20):
But there are other onesselenium is directly connected
with the thyroid function andthen you have other ones like
magnesium or cetera.
Having the micronutrients thereis critically important.
Also, fiber is super, superimportant because fiber later in
your, as it's going throughyour body, is creating in your,
in your intestines and colon.

(33:40):
It starts to create somethingcalled butyrate, which Lowers
this, the desire to be hunger orthe satiety right.
So it's important to have thatand there's.
So they're all these thingscoming together.
There's a full plan that I woulddo if I, when I work with
people that have Obesity andthey're willing to make the
changes.
There are also supplements youcan take, but it's not so much

(34:04):
about supplements.
I'll give you an example blackcumin seed.
If you buy black cumin seed, itlowers Hunger and it's been
shown to lower weight gain overmonths.
But it's a tiny amount and butit's easy to take.
There are things like that youcan add, but all these other
things like getting the overalldirection in a healthy direction
to really Take care of that, sothat you protect your lean body

(34:27):
mass but you lose weight,because a lot of times when
people lose fat or lose weight,you can be losing two thirds of
lean body mass, and so it'sreally critical to retain that,
because your lean body mass isdirectly connected with the
longevity Awesome.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I love it.
Totally agreed as well.
Great stuff.
Okay, good, we have how amazingthis is and whatnot.
I wanted to ask you a couplequestions about some things that
I just thought of as you weretalking about it.
So there is a lot of fiber andprebiotic in your product.
For those people who are maybehave a tendency towards bloating

(35:10):
or whatnot, do you have aprotocol for someone who's
experiencing digestive issuesbut wants to add all these
nutrients in, but maybe avoidingthe bloating that could come
from that part of the product?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
So bloating can be an issue.
So I'm glad you brought that up.
But I suggest, if you look atthe research, people really
shouldn't move more than fivegrams of fiber more in their
diet in any week.
So you should slowly build itup.
So when I'm having, like, Ihave usually about a 24 ounce

(35:44):
smoothie a day and I have a fulldose of my product.
So we're talking about 25 gramsof fiber.
For most people that would betoo much and would cause
bloating.
And that's because if you lookat fiber, how important it is,
it's really fantastic from awhole bunch of levels.
But I don't tell people to dothat.

(36:04):
I tell people to start with amuch smaller amount and start
with half a serving of myproduct and even for some people
that are very that has a verysensitive stomach, to start with
even a quarter.
And it's a food it really is.
It's a very concentrated food,and so I tell people to develop,
give it time to almost get yourbody used to it, the use to the

(36:27):
fiber and the concentratednutrition.
And so people if they start outwith, let's say, half or even a
quarter of a serving in asmoothie and then slowly build
up to a full dose and you don'tneed to take my product at a
full dose forever.
It's really to build up themicronutrients.
And, by the way, the onlypeople that I've unfreeze I

(36:48):
don't mean to say it this way,but the only people that have
had a problem have been reallywomen, where and I don't know
why women specifically have hadit.
But even they, when they juststart out low and they just give
themselves some time, they canbuild it up.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Makes sense, makes sense.
Yeah, I figured you had raninto that and had to work around
for it.
That's why I want to ask soawesome.
And then are there cases wheresomebody's maybe working on
really building up their body orthey're an athlete where they
would want to take even morethan the recommended dosage?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Nobody's ever asked me that question.
If somebody, I would saythere's not really.
This is really the full dose isreally designed to cover that.
But if let's say there was anathlete, I would, and I'm I
would be targeting specificthings, like I'm going to be
making a product for athletes atsome point and it will have

(37:45):
have things like nitrates,because it nitrates are
basically the only thing that'sever been shown to increase
oxygen utilization, and that'swhy, during the 2012 Olympics,
all the beats were sold out forhundreds of miles in outside of
London, because all the athleteswere buying up all the beats
and making beet juice becauseit's one of the high nitrate

(38:07):
foods and they were actuallygetting a really good spike in
the utilization of oxygen, forso it's a fantastic source, but
it's not in most things.
So one I would be putting thatin there.
And then some of theelectrolytes and really a lot of
the products that are on themarket for electrolytes.
They're all synthetic.
Most of them are not complete.

(38:28):
They have no antioxidants inthem.
So if it was an athlete, Iwould be having antioxidants
there, because you're creatingoxidative stress, especially in
these really long runs, and I'mworking with a guy that's
winning these ultramarathon andhe won a hundred mile race and
he wants to do a 200 mile.
I'm just going oh my God, yougot to.

(38:50):
I don't even know where tostart with that.
But if you look at the DNAdamage from something like that
at the beginning, where somebodyis at a very low level, and
then at the end, your DNA damageis off the chart, and so you
can protect that to a greatdegree by having antioxidants
during the course of that time.

(39:10):
Having nitrates, havingantioxidants and having full
spectrum electrolytes is what Iwould say for the athletes that
are listening right now, andyeah, that would be right,
awesome, that sounds amazing.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, I'm just curious is there a standard for
full spectrum electrolytes?
When you say a standard, whatdoes that mean?
Is there an approved?
This is the full spectrum ofelectrolytes you need for
different activities, orsomething like that you've come
across in your research.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
So there are six electrolytes or six nutrients
that are really consideredelectrolytes sodium chloride,
phosphorus, calcium, magnesiumand one other and there is no
specific amount.
The thing that I've done isgone into the studies and looked

(40:03):
at what is needed and how muchthis, and I've come to the best
conclusion.
I haven't finished, but I'vedesigned what I would do in that
case, but it's still a work inprogress.
I probably won't have thisproduct for another year or so,
and I really want to have itbecause I'm a perfectionist this

(40:23):
way, to have it perfect, iflike, to really impact people,
and this will all be from WholeFoods.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Wow, wow, amazing, yeah, oh.
The last one is potassium.
That's potassium.
There we go.
Okay, nice, okay great.
That sounds very exciting.
Yeah, we'll keep me posted onthat one.
So if you're talking tosomebody and they're running
into some sort of issue withtheir health and it's like a

(40:51):
long-term, chronic thing andit's not something they've just
had for a couple years, but it'slong-term, do you have any
experience with people gettingover for improving their
condition, how we want to placethat delicately, that situation
from using your product?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yes, very much.
And I have a friend, tamara,who was diagnosed with diabetes.
She had an A1C of 9.5.
So if any of your listenersknow what that means, you're not
only diabetic but you are araging diabetic.
At that point and we sat downbecause she knows what that can

(41:28):
lead to and she was alreadyhaving some neuropathy and I
went over and restructured abunch of things, so it's not
just my product.
So here's what she did.
She was doing intermittentfasting.
So, for those of your audiencethat don't know, she was
starting eating at about 8 inthe morning and she would end at

(41:49):
4 pm in the afternoon.
So that is a very restrictivetime of eating.
And then everything else upbeyond that was just water or
just tea, without anything, sonot to any additional calories,
and she would have a smoothiefor breakfast, a smoothie for
lunch, and then she was havingher term was just a normal, very

(42:10):
unhealthy dinner, so it wasn't,but she was having two
smoothies.
So that was a good start.
But then I had her doing a wholebunch of things that have been
shown to be incredibly good fordiabetes, right, things like
berbering that's not in myproduct.
Right, because that is notspecifically, it's not for
people to take care of theirdiabetes.
I do have things in there, andthat's why the forest person

(42:33):
that I mentioned had a bloodsugar lowering.
Turmeric will help, omelow willhelp, et cetera All these
things that will lower bloodsugar if it's needed.
But it really it's not designedto just lower, but I would add
things like berbering, omelow,turmeric, et cetera, and so I
had her on a bunch of thingslike that.
But she started losing twopounds a week.

(42:54):
Her blood sugar went and infact I have it right here where
she sent me her 24-hour what wasgoing on in her blood and her
blood sugar numbers got too lowand I said you need to back off
because you're going down toolow.
And so there's so much that canbe done.

(43:15):
Hypertension is the same way,and these are two big issues.
In our country In 1958, itwas.9% of Americans had diabetes
.
What is it now?
I think it's 13%.
That's a ginormous amount.
And then pre-diabetes it'salmost a third of the United
States adult populations.
But there's tremendous amountthat people can do with their

(43:37):
diet if they're willing to do it.
So when I'm just telling youthat it wasn't just my product,
it was much more than that.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Nice.
That's an amazing result.
Anyhow, it was gotten.
Yeah, yeah, so awesome, yeah,and I know that just from the
stories that you've told andeverything that I definitely
have some people in mind.
I'm like, okay, some people,because the other thing is, the
thing I like about your productis it's such a broad profile

(44:05):
that even if the person doesn'teat veggies or refuses to or
won't eat certain foods theyshould be eating, they're
covered.
If they can just get that intoa shake, right, and everybody
likes shakes.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
When I make a smoothie.
My smoothies are.
They're not a McDonald'smilkshake.
They don't taste like thatright, but they're not bad.
I've come to enjoy them.
But they're mixtures of berriesand because what I'm trying to
do in that smoothie is take thebest of everything, so I have my
product.
I have these blend of powergreens, all organic, a blend of

(44:42):
organic berries, nuts and seeds.
And our number one killer isheart disease.
And yet if you look at thestudies on nuts and seeds, the
people that have five servingsor more compared to one or less,
and they have less than halfthe heart disease risk.
And it's so easy and it's goodfor all these other things, good
for your skin, et cetera, etcetera.
So I'm trying to cover as muchas I can in this one little

(45:05):
smoothie a day that tastespretty good.
I won't say that, it's just tobe honest.
It's when I make one, I knowhow to make one where it's got
cow, peanut butter, plant-basedmilk and a banana.
Yeah, it's tastes really good.
It's not as healthy as the onethat I make, but that's at least
a good start and it has myproduct in it and cacao is super

(45:27):
healthy, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Love it.
Okay, great, awesome.
If somebody wants to get somemore information about
everything you've got over today, or get ahold of the shakes or
reach out and get moreinformation from a person, how
would they go about doing that?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
The best way would be to go onto the website
sosnutrientscom, s-o-s just likegiving what does it say of our
souls?
S-o-s, and then nutrientscom.
That is the best way.
We're on Instagram.
I'm coming, I'm going to createa YouTube channel and we're
going to be.
We're on LinkedIn, et cetera,et cetera, but the best form of

(46:06):
information by far is thewebsite, and if anybody wants to
jump on a call or on a Zoom,I'm happy to do it.
Again, this is my passion and Ireally want to impact people's
lives, so I'm happy to jump onand go over some things Awesome.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
That sounds great, awesome.
And is there anything else youwould like to share that we
didn't cover on the questions wewent over or in what we talked
about?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
I guess the one final thing that I would say is we
have tremendous ability to undodamages, and there are multiple
ways to do it.
It's not just nutrition right,there's exercise and there's how
you're thinking about things,and I've done these podcasts on
your mental state and how thatimpacts health.

(46:55):
There are all these otherthings, but nutrition is a
bedrock and if people reallystart there, it's a very good
start to have a very differentexperience, and it impacts
things like depressionsubstantially.
So it doesn't just end with areyour bones good, or anti-cancer

(47:15):
, or energy level.
There are many other benefitsof it as well.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Nice, awesome, totally agreed, and I love your
information.
Thank you so much for beinghere today.
It's been a pleasure.
I've learned several things andI'm so happy to be able to
share this with my audience andwhoever ends up listening to our
little conversation here.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Brian, great meeting.
You.
Really enjoyed being on herewith you, and so thanks for
having me Absolutely.
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