September 24, 2023 • 45 mins
Prepare to reclaim your health naturally as we welcome renowned natural health and wellness practitioner, Sarah Outlaw. Let's unpack the mysteries of hormone imbalances with Sarah who champions a drug and surgery-free approach to health. She brings a wealth of knowledge on hormonal issues affecting both men and women, emphasizing the need to understand and address the root causes of these imbalances, rather than relying on medications. Sarah enlightens us on the role of herbs and nutrition in helping the body reset naturally, offering a fresh perspective and hope to those battling with hormone irregularities.
We're also turning cholesterol fears on their head as Sarah sheds light on the impact of high cholesterol on women's health. We're unravelling the facts about the benefits of healthy fats, the hidden dangers of statin drugs, and the role of processed foods and sugar in cholesterol elevation. Listen in as Sarah takes us through the critical need to understand the root cause of high cholesterol before resorting to medication.
Finally, we venture into the murky waters of parasites, toxins, and detoxification. Brace yourself as we uncover the surprising ways parasites can impact your health, from affecting your blood sugar and hormones to even harbouring major pathogens like Lyme. We're also diving into how modern life toxins contribute to a weakened body, becoming a playground for parasites. For our male listeners, don't feel left out. Sarah brings valuable insights on men's hormonal health, addressing issues such as low testosterone, prostate problems, and the surprising effects of soy in baby formula. So, buckle up for this health revolution and join us on this enlightening journey into natural health and wellness.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right.
Hello everyone and welcome to anew episode of our podcast.
Today I'm very happy to beintroducing Sarah Outlaw, who is
a practitioner of nutritionalhealth and healing in general.
She has several establishedpractice we want to understand
and is seeing lots of peoplehelping the world, so eager to
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hear what she has to share withus.
Hi, sarah.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hi Ryan.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hey, thank you for being with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Thank you so much for having me.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, so tell us a little bit about yourself and
your mission right now.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, so I am a practitioner of natural health,
as you mentioned, I am aclinical herbalist and
foundational functionalnutritionist.
I also specialize in advancedmuscle testing, which is my main
modality that I practice, alongwith doing the functional labs
and those types of things.
I currently have threein-person physical practices one
in Des Moines, iowa, one inCherry Hill, new Jersey, and a
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satellite office in MountPleasant, south Carolina, as
well as a worldwide virtualpractice, so I am able to do
muscle testing virtually, whichis pretty cool.
So we have quite a few peoplethat aren't able to come into
the practice as a CME, but we'restill able to help them.
We mainly specialize in women'shealth and we also do families
as well, because once mom comesin, then everybody starts to
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kind of follow her in and wewant to take care of everybody.
We take care of people's petsas well.
So our mission and our purposeis to help people to empower
themselves to take control oftheir own health without the use
of unnecessary drugs andunnecessary surgeries, and
really be able to care for theirfamilies in a way that's more
natural, the way we feel by Godintended.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Wow, that's awesome.
Sounds like a very busy life.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It is very busy.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yes, that's so incredible.
It's so great to hear someonedoing so much to effectively
help others.
So that's awesome, thank you.
Yeah, I'd like to talk to you alittle bit about women's health
today, of course, and hormonalhealth, and what your take is on
.
A lot of women come into ourpractice or I work with.
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They're having trouble withhormones, they're looking for
second opinions, but they don'teven think of how to get to
what's causing the hormonefluctuations or imbalances.
So tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah.
So everybody always says myhormones, my hormones, all these
things, and they have all thesesymptoms and they don't know
what to do about it.
And they go to maybe thegynecologist, so they're OBGYN,
and they have all these testsand they get put on bioidentical
hormones or hormones in general, and they never really know
what's caused the problem in thefirst place.
So what we know with thepractice that we do is that
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toxicity creates deficiency, andwhat that means is if you have
toxins in your body of any kindwhether it be a immune system
imbalance like a parasiticimbalance, viral, fungal,
bacterial, or you have toxinslike a heavy metal toxicity or
chemicals or any of those typesof things what will happen is it
knocks your hormones off.
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So one of the main things thatcontributes to hormone
imbalances is a parasiticimbalance.
Parasites are very common,unfortunately, and even in our
country people think, oh, that'sa third world issue.
But no, it's not, it is.
I could do a whole podcast juston that, but it is a huge issue.
They do disrupt the or turn thedopamine all and all the other
hormones in the body.
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Also, one of the main hormonedisruptors now for women is all
of the personal care products.
Now, we all like to look niceright, so even guys, even to
different kinds of products.
This is a problem because somany of the products out there
are full of endocrine disruptingchemicals that literally change
the hormones in your body, anda lot of people still are not
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aware of this, even though meand myself, even in the last 10,
15, even 20 years, have triedto educate people on this.
It's huge.
So when someone comes into mypractice and says, sarah, my
hormones are whacked that'susually what they say my
hormones are whacked.
What do we do?
Well, we test.
We want to figure out what'sgoing on.
Why are there hormones out ofbalance?
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We don't just start throwingherbs and saying, okay, do the
herbs do these things?
We want to know why.
So we do specific testing tofind out those answers and then,
after the hormones start torebalance naturally, then we
start to say, okay, what herbscan we do to help your hormones
modulate?
The really cool thing aboutusing herbs and nutrition to
help with hormones is we're notforcing the body to do anything.
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So we work with what's calledthe autonomic nervous system of
body, which is a system thatruns your body does everything
automatically that you don'thave to think about doing so,
making your eyes blank, yourheart beat, your lungs breathe.
That system controls everysingle system of your body.
So if we nourish that system,it will do things automatically.
So if you give certain herbs,like chastry, berry or wild yam,
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those types of things, it willactually allow your body to go
back into balance, which isfantastic.
So we do all of those types ofthings in the practices with
women to help them finally getrelief, and it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Nice Sounds amazing?
Yeah, absolutely, and whensomebody engages in that path
that would allow them to havetheir body put things right,
rather than trying to use a drugto bypass it, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Exactly.
So what medication does?
If you look at that autonomicnervous system, which is made up
of the parasympathetic part ofthe nervous system, which is
like your body's brake pedal,your rest digestion heel, and
then you have your sympatheticpart of your nervous system,
which is all the active thingsyour body does, so it's your gas
pedal.
That system runs on nutritionas its fuel.
So if you give that, if yougive your body a medication, it
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bypasses the autonomic nervoussystem and forces the body to
make a change versus nutritionwhich nourishes the body and
allows your body to do itself.
So it's a completely wet,complete, different way of
looking at the body moreholistically and getting the
root cause and nourishing,versus saying here, take your
medication.
And what happens a lot of times,ryan, is that people, when they
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go to the doctor, they havedoctors have a very kind of
narrow-minded perspective oncare where they see the symptom
as something to get rid ofbecause the patient will be
happy and everybody will behappy.
So it's like your check enginelight is on your car.
Someone's having hormonalimbalances, so they have hot
flashes, or they're havingweight gain or all of those
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symptoms that they woulddescribe as an imbalance.
A doctor might say here's amedication, maybe birth control,
maybe something hormone,hormones in general.
That's like putting a stickynote over the dashboard of your
car on top of that check enginelight.
It doesn't mean it's going tohelp what's going on in the car.
Your engine still might blow up.
So that's the difference.
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Here is, we're looking atwhat's going on under the
imbalance, under the symptom.
Let's fix that.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Nice, I love that, that the analogy that I've never
heard it quite put that way andthat makes a lot of sense.
The nourishing of theparasympathetic, so that you're
actually regulating the body bywhat runs in, or whatever.
So, okay, great.
Now I've heard a lot aboutusing nutrition, but I'd like to
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dive into that a little bitmore.
So when you say using nutrition, are we talking like taking
certain vitamins or minerals, oris there a magic combo that
tends to work, or how does thathappen?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I wish there was a magic combo.
So what I like to say is don'tblame the thyroid for what the
adrenals did and don't blame theadrenals for what the
mitochondria did.
So what we're looking at withnutritional balancing and herbal
balancing with actualsupplementation, is we want to
work on the mitochondria.
Mitochondria is that cellularenergy Think of the Krebs cycle
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and chemistry that we all hatedto learn.
It's that ATP production, theenergy production in the body.
It's what fuels the cells andgives your electrical system of
your body what it needs toactually be nourished and fed
and your cells reproducingreally well.
If we nourish that part of thebody, then it will rebalance the
thyroid gland.
It will rebalance the adrenals.
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The adrenals are in charge ofover 50 hormones in your body,
so they can get reallyunbalanced quickly.
Those are for those who don'tknow and a lot of people don't
know what they are.
There are two little glandsthat sit right above the kidney,
so right on the back of thebody, and they are in charge of
your fight or flight.
They're in charge of yourcortisol production.
They're in charge of youradrenaline.
So think about running from abear, that type of reaction that
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you would have.
Sometimes they get a littlestressed out and they need
certain nutrition to get themunder control.
So nutrition that would nourishthe endocrine system, which is
all of the glands and organsthat are hormone producing or
hormone balancing.
They love certain nutrients.
They love B vitamins.
They love whole food B vitamins.
So a lot of the B vitamins outthere are actually made from
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coal tar, which is not somethingyou really want to put in your
body.
So we use whole food B vitaminsto help nourish both the
cardiovascular system and theadrenals, backing up a little
bit.
The heart eats first, so it willtake the nutrition it needs and
leave the other organs at adeficit.
It can give whatever it cangive and its body is to
distribute.
It distributes nutrients to thebody but it needs to be fed.
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The cardiovascular system has asuch a huge job.
The adrenal glands and theheart share nutrition.
They share vitamin C, theyshare vitamin B, those types of
things.
So you have to make sure you'regetting that nutrition.
But toxins block it.
So before I supplement, beforeI'm giving herbs as cheese or
I'm giving tinctures or I'mgiving capsules or tablets or
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whole food supplements, I'mlooking at giving the body a
detox process.
So we use different companies inour practices that are
specifically designed forhealthcare practitioners.
They're considered prescription.
A lot of the things that we useinitially are carbon based.
So think about humic and fulvicacid.
Those two things are from theearth and they are the ultimate
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adaptogen.
So you might know adaptogens asashwagandha or a Tulsi, holy
basil or astragalus, those typesof herbs that people will use
to increase the adaptability ofthe body's ability to handle
stress.
Well, we go a step further andwe use the humic and fulvic acid
type products to feed themmitochondria and also to
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rebalance all of the endocrineorgans, removing toxicity which
would create the body to notaccept any of that.
So it sounds complicated theprocess, but it's actually very
simple.
Muscle testing takes theguesswork out of all of it.
So I know what to do, want todo it, how much to do it, all of
those things.
So, yes, we use supplements, weuse nutritional products, we
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use herbal products, we uselifestyle changes kind of all
those things together, includingdietary, nutritional changes,
to nourish and sustain the body.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Nice, okay, great.
And so once these fulvic acids,humic acids, are taking some of
the toxins out of the body andhelping remove things and
whatnot, then the nutrition willwork more effectively.
So that's kind of step two, isthat right?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes, yes, if somebody has parasitic imbalances, if
they have glyphosate, which isroundup in the system, if they
have viral imbalances, bacterialimbalances, fungus, women and
candida is a huge issue.
A lot of us have fungal sporesin our bodies blockout nutrition
.
Once all of those things aredetoxed out, then your body can
actually absorb the nutrientsand the endocrine system can
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also function.
So we see a whole rebalancingof the entire autonomic nervous
system, the endocrine system,all of the organs and systems.
I don't know if you've everseen.
There's a chart out there.
It's called the HarrowersEndocrine System Chart and it's
like it looks like a spider web.
So it's all of the organs andsystems like all in a square and
each section is connected tothe other section.
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So I have it up on my wall.
My practice is so people can seeand they can see how all of the
systems and organs in theendocrine system work together.
So when they come in they say,oh, my adrenals, I have adrenal
fatigue.
And I say, okay, your adrenalsare one part, here's the rest of
it.
Here's your hypothalamus, whichis like the mothership of your
hormones.
Here's the pituitary, whichactually produces the thyroid
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simulating hormone TSH.
Here's your thyroid.
Here's your pancreas, which isinsulin resistance issues.
People who have PCOS polycysticovarian syndrome have a lot of
insulin resistance issues.
People going through menopausehave a lot of issues they don't
even know about with insulin.
There's so much more tohormones than just my hormones
so we have to kind of we educatepeople on these things.
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So I've done hormone classesand we educate in the room.
We educate when we dotelehealth.
We want women to know what thisis all about so they can
understand their bodies better.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, makes so much sense.
It's not.
You may have a symptom that youcan relate to adrenals, but it
may be a lot of other interconnections causing the
situation as well.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Great, so okay, makes a lot of sense.
I wanted to bring up a topicthat is sometimes a hot topic
with especially new clients orthat are new to the holistic
field, and that's the howcholesterol helps with the
production of certain hormonesand why it's important in the
body.
Can you kind of tie that inhere as well?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah.
So we're kind of moving intothe direction of talking about
the liver here, because theliver has a lot to do with
producing cholesterol.
What happens a lot and what I'mseeing a lot in practice with
high cholesterol and womenespecially and we do a lot of
men, hormonal health too, aswell, but women especially is
that they'll come to me and saymy cholesterol is high and I'll
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say, well, how high is it?
What does it look like?
And they're like oh, it's 230or it's 269.
And then I look and I say, okay, well, your LDL is higher than
your HDL.
So technically we'd want HDL tobe higher than the LDL, because
HDL is the protectivecholesterol, the good
cholesterol, and LDL is quoteunquote bad right.
But why is your cholesterolhigh?
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Well, the old cholesterolnumbers used to be like 300 was
the old range, 300 was normal.
Well, now it's like they wantit 150 to 200 or under 200.
For me as a practitioner,knowing what I know about
healthy fat and the brain andbrain health and diabetes and
Alzheimer's and dementia, I knowonce those cholesterol numbers
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start falling too far below 200,that person's actually in
trouble.
They're in trouble mentally ifyou don't have enough
cholesterol, because thecholesterol is there for a
reason it helps with hormoneproduction, helps with just all
sorts of facets of the humanbody.
When that goes too low, thebrain is actually at a deficit
and people start to have memoryloss.
So I see more cases of dementia, more cases of Alzheimer's
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younger and younger now becausepeople are put on statin drugs
and they're knocking thatcholesterol down.
I had a person who cholesterolwas 110.
That is crazy 110.
They couldn't remember wherethey put their key.
That's what's happens.
It's basically type three, butdiabetes, alzheimer's can set in
early, dementia can set inearly.
So we see these patterns whenthey introduce statin drugs,
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that you can see the stats.
If you look up graphs, you cansee the stats that statin drugs
get introduced, cholesterolpeople starts going down and
dementia and Alzheimer's startsgoing up.
So why is that?
Because you're forcing the bodyto stop producing something
that's protective and alsocutting out things that are
really hormone protective andbody protective, which is butter
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and healthy fats.
So we're looking at basicallycoconut oil, some saturated fats
which aren't bad for you incertain quantities, and
introducing processed foodswhich be sugar and carbohydrates
, which will actually knock thecholesterol up.
So we vilified healthy foodslike grass fed meat and grass
fed cheese and raw cheese.
And I don't do a lot of dairyjust because genetically it's
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not the best for me.
But I know that raw milk isbetter for you than pasteurized
milk.
If we eat well and eat whatwe're meant to eat, like from
the earth, versus processedfoods, sugar, dairy then your
cholesterol is going to benormalized.
It's the sugar in the carbsthat send it up, it's not your
eggs in the morning, it's notyour dietary.
Cholesterol does not equal highcholesterol in the body.
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That is a myth.
So I've done classes on thecholesterol myth.
I've talked to people abouthormone health.
We see people on statins orhormones go wacky.
So you, a woman a woman startstaking statin drug all of a
sudden.
Now the hormones are out ofbalance.
Why?
Because they need that.
We.
There's a term that is not wellaccepted anywhere really, but
we it's called dirty estrogen.
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So dirty estrogen is somethingthat we use kind of like a
tongue in cheek term when thebody isn't detoxing estrogen out
of the liver.
So when that happens, thingsget clogged up, so cholesterol
is stuck there.
If thyroid is off balance,cholesterol can be high.
A pancreas is out of balance,cholesterol can be high.
So you have all of thesedifferent factors that can
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contribute to estrogen being toohigh in the body and
cholesterol being too high inthe body.
But then again we ask thatquestion why?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Okay, it makes sense.
Yeah, so obviously it's notjust cholesterol is bad.
Therefore, you should always goon statins if you're above X
number, right and no questionfor you.
So you mentioned the numberschanging on the cholesterol,
like moving down, do you?
I've asked before.
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I've gotten various answers,but I'm always interested.
Do you have an explanation asto why that might have been done
?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Because pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical
reasons, it's all about themoney.
So bread and butter for a lotof the cardiologists is
automatically putting peoplethey cut.
You come into the office andyour cholesterol is high and
your blood pressure is high.
There's two medications rightthere that you're going to put
up people on for life and whatthey tell people is this is
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lifelong, we're going to have onblood pressure meds and you're
going to be in cholesterol meds,so you can't do that.
I mean, normally people'scholesterol is not going to be
around 300 or even 280 orwhatever it's just kind of
naturally balances out.
Usually between 220 and 260 iskind of where people tend to
fall.
So let's get people down, soit's farther, and tell them
their cholesterol is high so wehave something to give them.
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But it's caused so manyproblems.
I've had to have people come in.
Muscle wasting is huge.
So I've had people coming inhaving to recover from satin
drugs.
One of the most famouscardiologists and a colleague of
mine, dr Jack Wolfson he is apretty famous cardiologist.
You probably have heard of him.
He, from the stage at the cellcore conference last year and
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the year before it, literallysaid if your doctor puts you on
satin drugs, take yourself offand find another doctor.
It's just a no brainer.
You do not need them for it'snot going to, it's not
increasing your heart risk.
If your cholesterol is higher,you need to find out why your
body is over producing it.
There's something going on.
There's endothelial cell damagein the body, which is like the
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cells inside the body thatcontribute to all the health of
your liver, your cardiovascular,skeletal systems, all of those
things.
You have to find a practitionerwho can help you figure out why
, if you're not able to do ityourself, which I couldn't do it
before.
I was a practitioner.
I couldn't figure out why I wassick the way I was sick.
I was pretty sick.
I couldn't figure it out myself.
I knew a lot of things.
I was being Dr Google.
I needed help.
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So I definitely suggest findsomebody who can help you
navigate through the myths, thetruths, find out why your labs
look the way they do.
I love looking at labs.
It's part of my practice.
It's a huge part of my practice.
So we run a panel that's 21different panels plus hormones
and we look at that in thefunctional ranges and I sit down
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with a patient and we take atleast a half an hour to go over.
The report that we get is 38 to58 pages of just rationale for
what that blood looks like.
What is your body doing?
What's your liver doing?
What's your kidneys doing?
What's your cholesterol looklike?
What's your blood sugar looklike?
Blood sugar high usually meansyour cholesterol is high.
Why what's your pancreas doing?
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So we can look at all of thosenumbers and then put together
muscle testing and blood work.
Together is a magic combination.
I think I'm one of the onlypractitioners, or one of the
first practitioners to actuallydo that, where we've actually
combined the two together, wherewe're doing labs plus muscle
testing together, marrying thetwo and then comparing and
contrasting the results, andit's been really amazing the
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last few years looking at that.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Wow, well, yeah, sounds amazing.
Sounds like that would give youall the information you could
possibly need for creating theDimensioned, earlier the magic
formula.
Well, that's probably theunderlying pinnings of the magic
formula.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, yeah, okay, great now.
So we have hormone balancegoing out, people getting on
statins one trend that I'venoticed is that people younger
and younger coming in on statindrugs and and younger and
younger having all thecomplications you mentioned, but
also having hormonal imbalancesthat then lead to getting on to
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Some sort of hormonalsupplement or drug or whatever.
Is that a trend you've you'veseen as well?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yes, we're seeing a lot of girls going through early
puberty, some as young.
They start with breast buds,even as early as six years old,
eight years old.
I see children being put on,girls being put on birth control
at 10 or 11 years old Becausethey're getting their periods
earlier and earlier.
So the oncologist, obgyn, willsay let's put her on birth
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control because she's havingreally heavy periods at age 11.
I have a girl recently.
She she's 17 now but at age 11they put her on the depot shot.
11 years old it's.
I'm sitting here going oh my god, there were so many things that
we could have done To preventthat.
And we know I don't know ifyou're familiar with dr Jolene
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Brighton.
She's amazing.
She's like the birth controlguru.
She talks about birth controlissues and, yeah, I refer people
to her a lot as far as lookingat her information on her
website because she lays out thedangers of birth control and
how hormonal Stoppage likestopping things like that and
not getting a period for sixmonths, eight months a year all
those things is detrimental.
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I do not recommend hormonalbirth control to my patients.
I Teach them other ways ofdoing that because we are having
so much fertility issues.
One of my specialties isfertility in my clinics and we
do help moms to when they'rehaving trouble with fertility,
to be able to get pregnant.
We have so many Nutritionalbabies who've been born in our
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practice with.
Our practice is help, but wesee them having to recover from
all of those things.
And then we are also seeing alot of girls, earlier and
earlier, wearing makeup.
Social media is great and it'snot great.
Younger and younger kids are ontiktok.
They're on Instagram, notreally Facebook.
Is Facebook is her us old folks, right, but I'll chat and they
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want to look like the filters.
Look.
So you got the Kardashians, whoare the role models for our
kids, right.
Makeup, beauty care products,hair care products, hair dyes
Girls are getting inundated withthese chemicals for in their
growing bodies can't handle it.
So we're seeing these hormonedisruptions that are out of
control early puberty, like Imentioned, infertility, hormone
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imbalances, periods that are sobad that these girls can't get
out of bed.
We have to intervene.
Somebody has to help thesegirls.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, absolutely.
And so you mentioned the, themakeup earlier and whatnot.
Obviously that would bepossibly a major contributor to
these hormonal imbalances atsuch a young age.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Right.
Yes, there's phthalates inthose, there's parabens in those
.
There are things that are justas bad as parabens, that are
replacing Parabens becauseeverybody said knows that
parabens are bad and so you haveall of these endocrine
disrupting chemicals in thesethings.
There are a better option.
Part of things that we do inour practice is we teach moms
how to use better.
Because I like makeup, I like Iget my nails done, I get
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manicure.
There's things that I do formyself that I know that I'm
doing safely and healthfully, byusing products that don't use
those toxins, so that you canstill look nice and still wear
makeup and still do your hairand use products and self-tanner
, but you don't have to use thetoxic stuff.
So, helping moms find companiesthat they can utilize for their
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children there's plenty ofmakeup that they can use for
their kids lotions lotions arehuge.
The kids like to.
Girls like to slap themselves,like the smell.
Good bathroom body works is noton our vocabulary in my home.
Do not bring that stuff in myhouse.
It's the most toxic stuff ever.
But you have to educate.
If you're not educating peopleon these things, they just don't
know how.
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How would they?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Right, right, yeah, no, mainstream media is
definitely not teaching them.
Yeah, all right, wow, really.
You know it's very shocking andalmost hard to to look at, but
at the same time, it's greatthat there's there are options
out there and you know, thesocial media aspect of being
able to share that with lots ofpeople via that avenue has its
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benefits as well.
Or like we're doing on a littlepodcast episode that people are
gonna listen to.
So Good information.
Now I wanted to ask you alittle bit.
It just came to mind as we weretalking.
So we have this toxicity issueand then we have parasites, and
these are two things that arenot as as common in the general
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Language of health and wellness,at least outside of our world,
would you say.
It's kind of a dual Situation.
Or do the toxins come first andthen parasite later, or do they
feed off of each other?
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, it's kind of like a chicken and an egg
situation.
So what I usually find isthere's a toxicity that weakens
the body.
So either they've been exposedto a pesticide by eating certain
foods, or glyphosate fromsomebody spraying the yard I
can't believe how many peoplestill spray their yards with
life, with Roundup it's crazy.
All sorts of toxins that wereexposed to every day, like we
said, the makeup, those types ofthings.
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So the toxicity is going toweaken the body, weaken the
mitochondria, so at a cellularlevel the body can't heal as
well, it can't protect itself aswell, so the autonomic nervous
system is at a deficit.
Then parasites areopportunistic.
So then maybe you eat someorganic lettuce that maybe
wasn't washed properly andorganic lettuce and have
pesticides, so there could beparasite eggs on the lettuce.
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A lot of our food comes fromMexico, and Mexico is known for
parasites.
I have quite a few Mexicanpatients and they will tell me
my mom used to give us parasiteprotocols all the time because
we knew parasites were a thing.
So it's something that othercountries knew about and they
take care of.
But we are too good forparasites here, so we don't have
those, but we get our food fromother countries.
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So what's going to happen?
Right?
Sushi, huge source of parasites.
There's so many differentsources of parasites.
What I always find is thatparasites are the bringers in of
a lot of other things, so thetoxins usually come first.
Body's weakened.
Parasites are opportunistic.
You have organs that are alittle bit stressed out.
Parasites come in.
Their job is to be cleanup crew.
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So say you have, your pancreasis a little stressed out, for
some reason it's leaking someproteins.
Parasites say, oh, I'm going toeat those proteins, so let's go
ahead and eat those proteins.
That's our job.
Got to be cleanup crew.
They then get stuck in thepancreas.
They get stuck in the pancreasand they can't get out.
Then blood sugar starts to gooff and then hormone starts to
go off and then diabetes starts.
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So one of the main causes ofdiabetes that we see are
parasites that actually eat thetail and the head of the
pancreas.
They actually start feeding onthe organ, putting holes in the
organ.
They contribute to the gutbeing leaky, impermeable gut
Right.
You see all of these things Iwould love to talk a little bit
about, if we can.
Why parasites aren't found bymedical doctors.
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Can I talk about that?
It's really interesting becausea lot of times even stool
testing, because people willthink they have parasites.
Maybe they saw them, they won'tgo into the bathroom and they.
We have a lot of poop talk inour practice because we have to
talk about digestion a lot.
So it's one of those thingsthat can't be taboo.
You guys talk about it.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
People will say well, I got tested and I don't have
parasites, but we find them.
The muscle test finds them,blood work.
You can find them If you lookon your labs.
When you take a CBC and chempanel differential and look at
basophils, acinophils, and thenwhen you're looking at
neutrophils and lymphocytes andmonocytes.
There's two things there thatare basophils and acinophils.
If they're different than theyshould be, number wise, that
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means you could possibly haveparasites.
They can show up in blood work.
Why it doesn't show up in yourregular testing is that
parasites are like.
Think of a bowl of Skittles.
You've got all the colors ofthe rainbow in your bowl of
Skittles.
So, say the green Skittles, Itake them all out of the bowl
and I put them in one corner ofthe bowl.
So the bowl still has the greenSkittles in it.
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But when I put my hand intograb the Skittles, I have no
green Skittles in my hand.
Okay, they're not there.
Does it mean they're not in thebowl?
No, they're over here, so Icouldn't reach them.
So when you have a stool test,you're only taking the stool
from that first end of the colon.
Well, the parasites aren'tgoing to be sitting there.
Usually they're all going to besomewhere else.
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They're way up in theintestinal system, maybe they're
in the brain, maybe they're inthe sinus cavity, maybe they're
in the liver.
There's liver flukes, there'slung flukes.
There's all different types ofparasite that could be affecting
you negatively that may never,ever ever show up in a stool
test because of that Skittleanalogy, because they're just
not right there at the surface.
So nine times out of 10,testing of any kind is going to.
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Besides, muscle testing isgoing to miss the parasites.
Parasites also bring in majorpathogens like Lyme.
So I'm a Lyme specialist aswell.
Lyme disease is what brought meto becoming a practitioner,
because I had it for over 25years.
Chronic Lyme.
I suffered for a long timeillness-wise, my illnesses are
what brought me to what I dobasically, and we know for a
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fact that most of the people whohave Lyme in their systems have
never remembered being bittenby a tick.
Well, lyme comes in fromdifferent places.
It can come from gettingscratched by a stick that was
peed on by an animal that wasinfected with Lyme.
It can come from gnats,mosquitoes, lice, any type of
bug bite of any kind.
It's also sexually transmitted.
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It can cross the blood brainbarrier.
There's so many things for Lyme,but one of the main things that
Lyme comes from is parasites.
Say, a parasite bites your dog,it can get into your dog.
Your dog licks you, you getparasites from your dog licking
you and now you have a parasitethat has Lyme in it, because
lots of animals already haveLyme.
So then the Lyme is now in you.
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Lyme is very ubiquitous to thepopulation.
A lot of people have it intheir systems.
They may not have full-blownLyme disease, because that's a
little bit more, but they mighthave Lyme bacteria or Bartonella
or Babesia or Ehrlichia, whichare Lyme co-infections
contributed to by parasiticinfection.
So we have to kind of figureout what's there, how it got
there and take care of it.
So it's a huge kind of tangledweb of issues that parasites can
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contribute to and the toxinsstart there.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Right.
Well, it starts with a toxinsRight which we're surrounded by
in the modern world.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, I mean I'm sitting on a chair that's
probably got from Abahaidin andmy walls were painted with paint
and my light is emittingphosphorus and my computer is
made with everything.
I mean you can't get away fromit.
You literally can't.
My clothes are not organiccotton, so there's something in
them, I'm sure.
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Right, yeah, yeah.
And that kind of goes back tosome people say you just need to
eat well, but it seems like themore I work with people and
learn from other practitionersand whatnot, it's almost like
you have to be on a proactivedetox type of ants, with your
own health and others because ofthe amount of toxins we're
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exposed to.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, I mean.
Detox is a dirty word, though.
It's like the D word, it's likedon't talk to me about detox,
because your body should bedoing it.
Yes, our body should be doingit.
Our liver should be able to getthrough all the phases of detox
and take care of your systemright.
But why can't they?
Well, our food system is socontaminated and the soils are
so depleted.
If you're not looking atbiodynamic farming or
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agricultural, where they'redoing organic, sustainable
practices, the things that aregrown there's not enough
nitrogen in the soil.
Copper is almost completelydepleted in the soil.
A lot of people are deficientin copper, which is an essential
trace mineral, trace nutrients.
We're almost all deficient inmagnesium.
We don't have the right amountsof calcium in our bodies.
When I do the testing that I do,the lab testing it shows ink
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levels, b, vitamin D levels,vitamins, minerals and
electrolytes are always off.
Why, a lot of my patients comein.
They already eat.
Well.
How come they're not healthy?
Why are their?
Why are the labs look so bad?
Why are they coming up sonutritional and deficient?
Well, there's nothing we canreally do about that food wise,
except do our best and eat wholefood healthy, because unless
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you're growing your foodyourself and you know how to
balance your soil.
It's just not going to happenanymore.
It's just so depleted.
So we have to be more proactivein figuring out how can we add
to our nutrition.
There are some things that youmight always need to be on.
So we do DNA.
We do it's called NutrogenomicsDNA testing.
It's a nutritional based DNAtesting that we also utilize in
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practice to see what youroverall deficiencies are.
It tells you if you're ahunter-gatherer genetically, if
you are a farmer, like eatingtype genetically.
And it's interesting becauseI'm in Iowa now and looking at
people's genetics.
I am from New Jersey, my familyis from Italy and I am more of
a hunter-gatherer, but everysingle person that I've tested
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in Iowa comes up as farmer.
Well, why?
Well, because it's the Midwestand it's all farming, so they
live off the land, it's allfarming, agriculture, but
they're deficient.
Why?
Because the soil's depleted.
So we're seeing this huge issueas an ongoing issue that we have
to give supplements.
So some people say there's nosuch thing as deaning detox.
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Your body can do it yourselfand then you don't ever need
supplements because you get itfrom your food.
Well, both of those statementsare completely false.
Maybe that was okay 60, 70, 80,100 years ago, but it's not
okay now because things havechanged.
You have to supplement.
Supplement is completelynecessary because you have to
reestablish a baseline,reestablish a homeostasis in the
body, rebalance nutritionbecause we're depleted.
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You drink a can of soda.
You've just completely wipedout a lot of different things.
You take one round ofantibiotics.
You don't have the proper gutflora for maybe a year.
So we're doing things on adaily basis.
Metformin depletes nutrition,satin drugs knock out nutrition.
So you have to look at all thenutritional deficiencies even
the drugs you're taking aredoing.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Wow, yeah, no, it's a lot and it can be overwhelming,
I think, and sometimes peopleare like, well, it's too much,
I'm just going to do what I can.
That I already do.
I'm not doing horribly, but italmost feels like there's such a
higher level of health for thesociety as a whole that has been
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lost sight of and that has tobe reestablished in each
individual before they sometimesreach for a lot of these
methods.
At least that's something I'venoticed at times.
But, okay, great.
Now I wanted to ask you youmentioned a couple of times that
you also work on men's hormones, and we don't do a lot of that
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here, honestly.
But I was wondering what thingsdo you work on with men and
whatnot?
Both my personal curiosity and,just as since you brought it up
, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So younger and younger we're finding that
prostate.
There's prostate issues withmen.
So men are having huge issueswith their prostates younger and
younger, like 20s, 30s, early40s and that can contribute to a
lot of hormone imbalances.
We also see a lot of lowtestosterone, so a lot of low T
cases, and so there are a lot ofthings that we can do in
regards to men's health byremoving the toxins, removing
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the immune system challengesfirst, and then rebalancing and
being able to raise up thetestosterone naturally, without
doing any type of hormonereplacements for them as well.
We can help men just like wecan help women.
We do, like I said, we do a lotof fertility cases.
So a lot of times with my,fertility cases actually require
both partners.
So, because it's not just herfault that she's not getting
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pregnant, there's a lot going onwith him as well as far as
hormone imbalances and viralissues, parasitic issues that
are contributing to either notbeing able to sustain a
pregnancy, with lots ofmiscarriages, or not being able
to get pregnant in the firstplace, with low sperm counts,
and those types of things.
So we help with all of thatvery naturally.
So we change nutrition, we getrid of toxins.
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We get rid of immune systemchallenges, and then there's
lots of amazing herbal therapiesfor men in getting that handled
, and then also things likenitric oxide and we use
something called cardiomiraclewhich is amazing for oxygenating
cardiovascular health.
We do a lot of rock-tidaldysfunction work where that's an
issue as well, and that's a lotof cardiovascular issues,
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circulatory, so you name it formen.
We have helped in all thosesituations, even with prostate
cancers.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Wow, wow, yeah.
Yeah, it's just something thatwe haven't delved into, but
there's definitely a lot ofpeople dealing with that type of
thing out there.
I saw something on speaking ofsocial media a few weeks ago and
I don't know how valid it is.
You always take these thingswith a grain of salt.
It said something about thetestosterone level of the
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40-year-old.
Like in present time40-year-old male was similar to
the testosterone level of a 60or 70-year-old male, like 50
years ago, or something.
Is that something you can speakto?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, and not to be controversial or offensive, but
it's the soy boys.
Soy has literally ruined menand their testosterone.
So, what happened is theintroduction of soy formula.
A lot of men or boys, babies,were fed soy formula and it
raised the estrogen.
It's very estrogenic.
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Estrogen is higher,testosterone is low.
So we're seeing literal changesin men, from boys on, in
physical structure, testosteronelevels, hormone levels, how
they look, how they talk, howthey act, very feminizing,
because the more soy that youput in your body when you're
developing, the more yourhormones are going to be off.
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So that is one of the majorcontributing factors to this
testosterone issue being really,really low.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
We recommend that with ourclients who come in who are
women, who are in any sort ofhormonal imbalance.
We're always like, okay, youhave any soy in your diet, good,
it's gone.
But yeah, I could see thatrelating to men as well, of
course.
So let me ask you this this isa question I've had, because we
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see this, we see people come offsoy and things balance better.
They respond more to the herbsand the supplements and
everything.
There's other things they needto come off of as well, of
course, and all the toxicity.
So we have our segment of theworld here, the Americas or
whatever you want to say, butthere's a whole segment, from
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what I understand, in the ChinaAsia area that actually has
lived off of soy or soy typeproducts for centuries unless
that's propaganda, but that'swhat I understand.
Do you have any?
Can you speak to or clarifywhat the discrepancy is, why we
react so badly to it?
And then there's a populationthat seems to do okay with it.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, so for my understanding is that in Asia
they utilize a lot of fermentedsoy, so they don't do a lot.
They don't eat a ton of juststraight up tofu.
They use most tempeh andfermented soy sauce and the
fermentation process doesn'tallow for that much estrogen so
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it actually changes it.
It takes it out more.
So if you eat more fermented.
So I actually do recommendfermented soy for some things
for health reasons, non-gmo,obviously, because genetically
modified soy is one of thehighest genetic modifications in
the highest glyphosate crop.
So you have to watch whatyou're doing.
But they don't eat a ton oftofu.
So if you look at traditionalAsian meals, it's not full of
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tofu and fermented soy.
Now they do edamame, so there'sgoing to be some in that, but
it's not as high as you wouldthink.
In Asian countries.
It's more of the fermentation.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense, because you work
with clients and occasionallyget thrown questions you don't
quite know how to answer, andthen you're like, okay, well,
I'll figure that out and tellthem later.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, but okay cool.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Thank you for that Great.
So we cover a lot abouthormones and how you deal with
those things Related to allthese different topics.
Is there something?
Because there's a lot ofinformation, it can be
overwhelming Somebody who's newto this.
Where would you say they shouldstart if they're experiencing,
maybe, some body issues thathaven't been able to be
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explained by their doctor, orwhatever?
What's a good place for someoneto start producing themselves
to these concepts?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, I mean I always recommend getting professional
help, find a muscle testingpractitioner, an advanced
practitioner, somewhere in thecountry.
There's a lot of us around andthat is kind of the first step
because we all educate most ofus well I wouldn't say all those
those are really good ateducating patients as well.
And then, following some of uson social media there's we give
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a lot of information for free onsocial media.
As far as accurate information,a lot of us do workshops that
you can watch publicly.
So I know I've done tons andhundreds of them, so they're
always in my video archives ofFacebook page and there are
reputable MDs and DOs out therewho we are colleagues with that
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give information.
Like I said, like Dr JoleneBrighton and Dr Wolfson, and
there are a lot of people outthere that you can get accurate
information from.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, yeah.
So it seems like you just haveto be open to the idea that if
your body is not being fixed bywhat's supposed to doctor
conventional type situation,then there might be other
information, and just be open togoing and working with somebody
who has that information in, oreducating yourself on it as
well.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, Having an open mind and also realizing that the
definition of insanity is doingthe same thing over and over
again and expecting differentresults.
So if you are having healthissues continually, year after
year after year, and you'restill doing the same things to
fix it, it might be time to takea step back and say listen, I'm
worth more than this.
I can't fill from an empty cupand I need to figure something
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out the different outs.
You have to be able to openyour mind, because a lot of the
alternative practices that we do, and a lot of us as
practitioners do, are notconsidered mainstream and they
might seem a little bit wackier,strange, but they work.
And you have to be able to bewilling to have that open
mindness to say, okay, nothingI'm doing is working.
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This is my last hope.
I'm sick.
Can you please just help mefigure this out?
So that's what we're all herefor.
We just want to help youdetermine what's going on and
just help you find a better way.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Awesome, I love that.
Okay, great.
So thank you so much for allthis amazing information.
I know there's probably we'vejust scratched the surface of
some of the information that youcould provide, but I think
we've got a good package herefor people to listen to in this
episode, so I'm excited to getthat out to everybody.
Now, if somebody wants to get ahold of you or work with you
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directly, I know you have yourthree physical practices brick
and mortar but then you also doworldwide virtual practices how
does somebody get a hold of youor your practice?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, the best way to find us is just go to our
website and there's contactforms on there.
So wwwnhiccenterscom is ourwebsite address and you can see
what we do, kind of what we'reabout, and then also contact us
through there.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Perfect, simple enough.
Okay, great, and is thereanything else you wanted to
mention before we wrap things uphere?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Just that.
Like I said before, you'reworth you, watching, listening.
You're worth more than whatyour health is telling you and
you're not your diagnosis.
So take a minute, do a selfevaluation.
How are you feeling?
Do you feel amazing?
If you don't feel amazing, youshould.
So find a way to live the lifeyou're meant to live.
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We're not meant to survive,we're meant to thrive.
So that is my goal foreverybody out there listening is
that you kind of have an openmind and that you move forward
into that path of healing andfind a way to thrive.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Amazing.
There we go.
I love it.
Okay, great.
So thank you so much for beingon today, sarah, we'll get this
right out, and all theinformation we went over on
contact data will be in the shownotes as well.
Thanks again, sarah, and well,we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Thanks, Ryan.
All right.
Hello everyone and welcome to anew episode of our podcast.
Today I'm very happy to beintroducing Sarah Outlaw, who is
a practitioner of nutritionalhealth and healing in general.
She has several establishedpractice we want to understand
and is seeing lots of peoplehelping the world, so eager to
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hear what she has to share withus.
Hi, sarah.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hi Ryan.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hey, thank you for being with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Thank you so much for having me.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, so tell us a little bit about yourself and
your mission right now.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, so I am a practitioner of natural health,
as you mentioned, I am aclinical herbalist and
foundational functionalnutritionist.
I also specialize in advancedmuscle testing, which is my main
modality that I practice, alongwith doing the functional labs
and those types of things.
I currently have threein-person physical practices one
in Des Moines, iowa, one inCherry Hill, new Jersey, and a
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satellite office in MountPleasant, south Carolina, as
well as a worldwide virtualpractice, so I am able to do
muscle testing virtually, whichis pretty cool.
So we have quite a few peoplethat aren't able to come into
the practice as a CME, but we'restill able to help them.
We mainly specialize in women'shealth and we also do families
as well, because once mom comesin, then everybody starts to
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kind of follow her in and wewant to take care of everybody.
We take care of people's petsas well.
So our mission and our purposeis to help people to empower
themselves to take control oftheir own health without the use
of unnecessary drugs andunnecessary surgeries, and
really be able to care for theirfamilies in a way that's more
natural, the way we feel by Godintended.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Wow, that's awesome.
Sounds like a very busy life.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It is very busy.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yes, that's so incredible.
It's so great to hear someonedoing so much to effectively
help others.
So that's awesome, thank you.
Yeah, I'd like to talk to you alittle bit about women's health
today, of course, and hormonalhealth, and what your take is on
.
A lot of women come into ourpractice or I work with.
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They're having trouble withhormones, they're looking for
second opinions, but they don'teven think of how to get to
what's causing the hormonefluctuations or imbalances.
So tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah.
So everybody always says myhormones, my hormones, all these
things, and they have all thesesymptoms and they don't know
what to do about it.
And they go to maybe thegynecologist, so they're OBGYN,
and they have all these testsand they get put on bioidentical
hormones or hormones in general, and they never really know
what's caused the problem in thefirst place.
So what we know with thepractice that we do is that
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toxicity creates deficiency, andwhat that means is if you have
toxins in your body of any kindwhether it be a immune system
imbalance like a parasiticimbalance, viral, fungal,
bacterial, or you have toxinslike a heavy metal toxicity or
chemicals or any of those typesof things what will happen is it
knocks your hormones off.
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So one of the main things thatcontributes to hormone
imbalances is a parasiticimbalance.
Parasites are very common,unfortunately, and even in our
country people think, oh, that'sa third world issue.
But no, it's not, it is.
I could do a whole podcast juston that, but it is a huge issue.
They do disrupt the or turn thedopamine all and all the other
hormones in the body.
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Also, one of the main hormonedisruptors now for women is all
of the personal care products.
Now, we all like to look niceright, so even guys, even to
different kinds of products.
This is a problem because somany of the products out there
are full of endocrine disruptingchemicals that literally change
the hormones in your body, anda lot of people still are not
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aware of this, even though meand myself, even in the last 10,
15, even 20 years, have triedto educate people on this.
It's huge.
So when someone comes into mypractice and says, sarah, my
hormones are whacked that'susually what they say my
hormones are whacked.
What do we do?
Well, we test.
We want to figure out what'sgoing on.
Why are there hormones out ofbalance?
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We don't just start throwingherbs and saying, okay, do the
herbs do these things?
We want to know why.
So we do specific testing tofind out those answers and then,
after the hormones start torebalance naturally, then we
start to say, okay, what herbscan we do to help your hormones
modulate?
The really cool thing aboutusing herbs and nutrition to
help with hormones is we're notforcing the body to do anything.
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So we work with what's calledthe autonomic nervous system of
body, which is a system thatruns your body does everything
automatically that you don'thave to think about doing so,
making your eyes blank, yourheart beat, your lungs breathe.
That system controls everysingle system of your body.
So if we nourish that system,it will do things automatically.
So if you give certain herbs,like chastry, berry or wild yam,
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those types of things, it willactually allow your body to go
back into balance, which isfantastic.
So we do all of those types ofthings in the practices with
women to help them finally getrelief, and it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Nice Sounds amazing?
Yeah, absolutely, and whensomebody engages in that path
that would allow them to havetheir body put things right,
rather than trying to use a drugto bypass it, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Exactly.
So what medication does?
If you look at that autonomicnervous system, which is made up
of the parasympathetic part ofthe nervous system, which is
like your body's brake pedal,your rest digestion heel, and
then you have your sympatheticpart of your nervous system,
which is all the active thingsyour body does, so it's your gas
pedal.
That system runs on nutritionas its fuel.
So if you give that, if yougive your body a medication, it
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bypasses the autonomic nervoussystem and forces the body to
make a change versus nutritionwhich nourishes the body and
allows your body to do itself.
So it's a completely wet,complete, different way of
looking at the body moreholistically and getting the
root cause and nourishing,versus saying here, take your
medication.
And what happens a lot of times,ryan, is that people, when they
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go to the doctor, they havedoctors have a very kind of
narrow-minded perspective oncare where they see the symptom
as something to get rid ofbecause the patient will be
happy and everybody will behappy.
So it's like your check enginelight is on your car.
Someone's having hormonalimbalances, so they have hot
flashes, or they're havingweight gain or all of those
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symptoms that they woulddescribe as an imbalance.
A doctor might say here's amedication, maybe birth control,
maybe something hormone,hormones in general.
That's like putting a stickynote over the dashboard of your
car on top of that check enginelight.
It doesn't mean it's going tohelp what's going on in the car.
Your engine still might blow up.
So that's the difference.
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Here is, we're looking atwhat's going on under the
imbalance, under the symptom.
Let's fix that.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Nice, I love that, that the analogy that I've never
heard it quite put that way andthat makes a lot of sense.
The nourishing of theparasympathetic, so that you're
actually regulating the body bywhat runs in, or whatever.
So, okay, great.
Now I've heard a lot aboutusing nutrition, but I'd like to
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dive into that a little bitmore.
So when you say using nutrition, are we talking like taking
certain vitamins or minerals, oris there a magic combo that
tends to work, or how does thathappen?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I wish there was a magic combo.
So what I like to say is don'tblame the thyroid for what the
adrenals did and don't blame theadrenals for what the
mitochondria did.
So what we're looking at withnutritional balancing and herbal
balancing with actualsupplementation, is we want to
work on the mitochondria.
Mitochondria is that cellularenergy Think of the Krebs cycle
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and chemistry that we all hatedto learn.
It's that ATP production, theenergy production in the body.
It's what fuels the cells andgives your electrical system of
your body what it needs toactually be nourished and fed
and your cells reproducingreally well.
If we nourish that part of thebody, then it will rebalance the
thyroid gland.
It will rebalance the adrenals.
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The adrenals are in charge ofover 50 hormones in your body,
so they can get reallyunbalanced quickly.
Those are for those who don'tknow and a lot of people don't
know what they are.
There are two little glandsthat sit right above the kidney,
so right on the back of thebody, and they are in charge of
your fight or flight.
They're in charge of yourcortisol production.
They're in charge of youradrenaline.
So think about running from abear, that type of reaction that
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you would have.
Sometimes they get a littlestressed out and they need
certain nutrition to get themunder control.
So nutrition that would nourishthe endocrine system, which is
all of the glands and organsthat are hormone producing or
hormone balancing.
They love certain nutrients.
They love B vitamins.
They love whole food B vitamins.
So a lot of the B vitamins outthere are actually made from
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coal tar, which is not somethingyou really want to put in your
body.
So we use whole food B vitaminsto help nourish both the
cardiovascular system and theadrenals, backing up a little
bit.
The heart eats first, so it willtake the nutrition it needs and
leave the other organs at adeficit.
It can give whatever it cangive and its body is to
distribute.
It distributes nutrients to thebody but it needs to be fed.
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The cardiovascular system has asuch a huge job.
The adrenal glands and theheart share nutrition.
They share vitamin C, theyshare vitamin B, those types of
things.
So you have to make sure you'regetting that nutrition.
But toxins block it.
So before I supplement, beforeI'm giving herbs as cheese or
I'm giving tinctures or I'mgiving capsules or tablets or
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whole food supplements, I'mlooking at giving the body a
detox process.
So we use different companies inour practices that are
specifically designed forhealthcare practitioners.
They're considered prescription.
A lot of the things that we useinitially are carbon based.
So think about humic and fulvicacid.
Those two things are from theearth and they are the ultimate
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adaptogen.
So you might know adaptogens asashwagandha or a Tulsi, holy
basil or astragalus, those typesof herbs that people will use
to increase the adaptability ofthe body's ability to handle
stress.
Well, we go a step further andwe use the humic and fulvic acid
type products to feed themmitochondria and also to
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rebalance all of the endocrineorgans, removing toxicity which
would create the body to notaccept any of that.
So it sounds complicated theprocess, but it's actually very
simple.
Muscle testing takes theguesswork out of all of it.
So I know what to do, want todo it, how much to do it, all of
those things.
So, yes, we use supplements, weuse nutritional products, we
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use herbal products, we uselifestyle changes kind of all
those things together, includingdietary, nutritional changes,
to nourish and sustain the body.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Nice, okay, great.
And so once these fulvic acids,humic acids, are taking some of
the toxins out of the body andhelping remove things and
whatnot, then the nutrition willwork more effectively.
So that's kind of step two, isthat right?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes, yes, if somebody has parasitic imbalances, if
they have glyphosate, which isroundup in the system, if they
have viral imbalances, bacterialimbalances, fungus, women and
candida is a huge issue.
A lot of us have fungal sporesin our bodies blockout nutrition
.
Once all of those things aredetoxed out, then your body can
actually absorb the nutrientsand the endocrine system can
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also function.
So we see a whole rebalancingof the entire autonomic nervous
system, the endocrine system,all of the organs and systems.
I don't know if you've everseen.
There's a chart out there.
It's called the HarrowersEndocrine System Chart and it's
like it looks like a spider web.
So it's all of the organs andsystems like all in a square and
each section is connected tothe other section.
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So I have it up on my wall.
My practice is so people can seeand they can see how all of the
systems and organs in theendocrine system work together.
So when they come in they say,oh, my adrenals, I have adrenal
fatigue.
And I say, okay, your adrenalsare one part, here's the rest of
it.
Here's your hypothalamus, whichis like the mothership of your
hormones.
Here's the pituitary, whichactually produces the thyroid
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simulating hormone TSH.
Here's your thyroid.
Here's your pancreas, which isinsulin resistance issues.
People who have PCOS polycysticovarian syndrome have a lot of
insulin resistance issues.
People going through menopausehave a lot of issues they don't
even know about with insulin.
There's so much more tohormones than just my hormones
so we have to kind of we educatepeople on these things.
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So I've done hormone classesand we educate in the room.
We educate when we dotelehealth.
We want women to know what thisis all about so they can
understand their bodies better.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, makes so much sense.
It's not.
You may have a symptom that youcan relate to adrenals, but it
may be a lot of other interconnections causing the
situation as well.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Great, so okay, makes a lot of sense.
I wanted to bring up a topicthat is sometimes a hot topic
with especially new clients orthat are new to the holistic
field, and that's the howcholesterol helps with the
production of certain hormonesand why it's important in the
body.
Can you kind of tie that inhere as well?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah.
So we're kind of moving intothe direction of talking about
the liver here, because theliver has a lot to do with
producing cholesterol.
What happens a lot and what I'mseeing a lot in practice with
high cholesterol and womenespecially and we do a lot of
men, hormonal health too, aswell, but women especially is
that they'll come to me and saymy cholesterol is high and I'll
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say, well, how high is it?
What does it look like?
And they're like oh, it's 230or it's 269.
And then I look and I say, okay, well, your LDL is higher than
your HDL.
So technically we'd want HDL tobe higher than the LDL, because
HDL is the protectivecholesterol, the good
cholesterol, and LDL is quoteunquote bad right.
But why is your cholesterolhigh?
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Well, the old cholesterolnumbers used to be like 300 was
the old range, 300 was normal.
Well, now it's like they wantit 150 to 200 or under 200.
For me as a practitioner,knowing what I know about
healthy fat and the brain andbrain health and diabetes and
Alzheimer's and dementia, I knowonce those cholesterol numbers
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start falling too far below 200,that person's actually in
trouble.
They're in trouble mentally ifyou don't have enough
cholesterol, because thecholesterol is there for a
reason it helps with hormoneproduction, helps with just all
sorts of facets of the humanbody.
When that goes too low, thebrain is actually at a deficit
and people start to have memoryloss.
So I see more cases of dementia, more cases of Alzheimer's
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younger and younger now becausepeople are put on statin drugs
and they're knocking thatcholesterol down.
I had a person who cholesterolwas 110.
That is crazy 110.
They couldn't remember wherethey put their key.
That's what's happens.
It's basically type three, butdiabetes, alzheimer's can set in
early, dementia can set inearly.
So we see these patterns whenthey introduce statin drugs,
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that you can see the stats.
If you look up graphs, you cansee the stats that statin drugs
get introduced, cholesterolpeople starts going down and
dementia and Alzheimer's startsgoing up.
So why is that?
Because you're forcing the bodyto stop producing something
that's protective and alsocutting out things that are
really hormone protective andbody protective, which is butter
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and healthy fats.
So we're looking at basicallycoconut oil, some saturated fats
which aren't bad for you incertain quantities, and
introducing processed foodswhich be sugar and carbohydrates
, which will actually knock thecholesterol up.
So we vilified healthy foodslike grass fed meat and grass
fed cheese and raw cheese.
And I don't do a lot of dairyjust because genetically it's
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not the best for me.
But I know that raw milk isbetter for you than pasteurized
milk.
If we eat well and eat whatwe're meant to eat, like from
the earth, versus processedfoods, sugar, dairy then your
cholesterol is going to benormalized.
It's the sugar in the carbsthat send it up, it's not your
eggs in the morning, it's notyour dietary.
Cholesterol does not equal highcholesterol in the body.
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That is a myth.
So I've done classes on thecholesterol myth.
I've talked to people abouthormone health.
We see people on statins orhormones go wacky.
So you, a woman a woman startstaking statin drug all of a
sudden.
Now the hormones are out ofbalance.
Why?
Because they need that.
We.
There's a term that is not wellaccepted anywhere really, but
we it's called dirty estrogen.
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So dirty estrogen is somethingthat we use kind of like a
tongue in cheek term when thebody isn't detoxing estrogen out
of the liver.
So when that happens, thingsget clogged up, so cholesterol
is stuck there.
If thyroid is off balance,cholesterol can be high.
A pancreas is out of balance,cholesterol can be high.
So you have all of thesedifferent factors that can
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contribute to estrogen being toohigh in the body and
cholesterol being too high inthe body.
But then again we ask thatquestion why?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Okay, it makes sense.
Yeah, so obviously it's notjust cholesterol is bad.
Therefore, you should always goon statins if you're above X
number, right and no questionfor you.
So you mentioned the numberschanging on the cholesterol,
like moving down, do you?
I've asked before.
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I've gotten various answers,but I'm always interested.
Do you have an explanation asto why that might have been done
?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Because pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical
reasons, it's all about themoney.
So bread and butter for a lotof the cardiologists is
automatically putting peoplethey cut.
You come into the office andyour cholesterol is high and
your blood pressure is high.
There's two medications rightthere that you're going to put
up people on for life and whatthey tell people is this is
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lifelong, we're going to have onblood pressure meds and you're
going to be in cholesterol meds,so you can't do that.
I mean, normally people'scholesterol is not going to be
around 300 or even 280 orwhatever it's just kind of
naturally balances out.
Usually between 220 and 260 iskind of where people tend to
fall.
So let's get people down, soit's farther, and tell them
their cholesterol is high so wehave something to give them.
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But it's caused so manyproblems.
I've had to have people come in.
Muscle wasting is huge.
So I've had people coming inhaving to recover from satin
drugs.
One of the most famouscardiologists and a colleague of
mine, dr Jack Wolfson he is apretty famous cardiologist.
You probably have heard of him.
He, from the stage at the cellcore conference last year and
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the year before it, literallysaid if your doctor puts you on
satin drugs, take yourself offand find another doctor.
It's just a no brainer.
You do not need them for it'snot going to, it's not
increasing your heart risk.
If your cholesterol is higher,you need to find out why your
body is over producing it.
There's something going on.
There's endothelial cell damagein the body, which is like the
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cells inside the body thatcontribute to all the health of
your liver, your cardiovascular,skeletal systems, all of those
things.
You have to find a practitionerwho can help you figure out why
, if you're not able to do ityourself, which I couldn't do it
before.
I was a practitioner.
I couldn't figure out why I wassick the way I was sick.
I was pretty sick.
I couldn't figure it out myself.
I knew a lot of things.
I was being Dr Google.
I needed help.
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So I definitely suggest findsomebody who can help you
navigate through the myths, thetruths, find out why your labs
look the way they do.
I love looking at labs.
It's part of my practice.
It's a huge part of my practice.
So we run a panel that's 21different panels plus hormones
and we look at that in thefunctional ranges and I sit down
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with a patient and we take atleast a half an hour to go over.
The report that we get is 38 to58 pages of just rationale for
what that blood looks like.
What is your body doing?
What's your liver doing?
What's your kidneys doing?
What's your cholesterol looklike?
What's your blood sugar looklike?
Blood sugar high usually meansyour cholesterol is high.
Why what's your pancreas doing?
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So we can look at all of thosenumbers and then put together
muscle testing and blood work.
Together is a magic combination.
I think I'm one of the onlypractitioners, or one of the
first practitioners to actuallydo that, where we've actually
combined the two together, wherewe're doing labs plus muscle
testing together, marrying thetwo and then comparing and
contrasting the results, andit's been really amazing the
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last few years looking at that.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Wow, well, yeah, sounds amazing.
Sounds like that would give youall the information you could
possibly need for creating theDimensioned, earlier the magic
formula.
Well, that's probably theunderlying pinnings of the magic
formula.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, yeah, okay, great now.
So we have hormone balancegoing out, people getting on
statins one trend that I'venoticed is that people younger
and younger coming in on statindrugs and and younger and
younger having all thecomplications you mentioned, but
also having hormonal imbalancesthat then lead to getting on to
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Some sort of hormonalsupplement or drug or whatever.
Is that a trend you've you'veseen as well?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yes, we're seeing a lot of girls going through early
puberty, some as young.
They start with breast buds,even as early as six years old,
eight years old.
I see children being put on,girls being put on birth control
at 10 or 11 years old Becausethey're getting their periods
earlier and earlier.
So the oncologist, obgyn, willsay let's put her on birth
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control because she's havingreally heavy periods at age 11.
I have a girl recently.
She she's 17 now but at age 11they put her on the depot shot.
11 years old it's.
I'm sitting here going oh my god, there were so many things that
we could have done To preventthat.
And we know I don't know ifyou're familiar with dr Jolene
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Brighton.
She's amazing.
She's like the birth controlguru.
She talks about birth controlissues and, yeah, I refer people
to her a lot as far as lookingat her information on her
website because she lays out thedangers of birth control and
how hormonal Stoppage likestopping things like that and
not getting a period for sixmonths, eight months a year all
those things is detrimental.
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I do not recommend hormonalbirth control to my patients.
I Teach them other ways ofdoing that because we are having
so much fertility issues.
One of my specialties isfertility in my clinics and we
do help moms to when they'rehaving trouble with fertility,
to be able to get pregnant.
We have so many Nutritionalbabies who've been born in our
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practice with.
Our practice is help, but wesee them having to recover from
all of those things.
And then we are also seeing alot of girls, earlier and
earlier, wearing makeup.
Social media is great and it'snot great.
Younger and younger kids are ontiktok.
They're on Instagram, notreally Facebook.
Is Facebook is her us old folks, right, but I'll chat and they
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want to look like the filters.
Look.
So you got the Kardashians, whoare the role models for our
kids, right.
Makeup, beauty care products,hair care products, hair dyes
Girls are getting inundated withthese chemicals for in their
growing bodies can't handle it.
So we're seeing these hormonedisruptions that are out of
control early puberty, like Imentioned, infertility, hormone
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imbalances, periods that are sobad that these girls can't get
out of bed.
We have to intervene.
Somebody has to help thesegirls.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, absolutely.
And so you mentioned the, themakeup earlier and whatnot.
Obviously that would bepossibly a major contributor to
these hormonal imbalances atsuch a young age.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Right.
Yes, there's phthalates inthose, there's parabens in those
.
There are things that are justas bad as parabens, that are
replacing Parabens becauseeverybody said knows that
parabens are bad and so you haveall of these endocrine
disrupting chemicals in thesethings.
There are a better option.
Part of things that we do inour practice is we teach moms
how to use better.
Because I like makeup, I like Iget my nails done, I get
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manicure.
There's things that I do formyself that I know that I'm
doing safely and healthfully, byusing products that don't use
those toxins, so that you canstill look nice and still wear
makeup and still do your hairand use products and self-tanner
, but you don't have to use thetoxic stuff.
So, helping moms find companiesthat they can utilize for their
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children there's plenty ofmakeup that they can use for
their kids lotions lotions arehuge.
The kids like to.
Girls like to slap themselves,like the smell.
Good bathroom body works is noton our vocabulary in my home.
Do not bring that stuff in myhouse.
It's the most toxic stuff ever.
But you have to educate.
If you're not educating peopleon these things, they just don't
know how.
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How would they?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Right, right, yeah, no, mainstream media is
definitely not teaching them.
Yeah, all right, wow, really.
You know it's very shocking andalmost hard to to look at, but
at the same time, it's greatthat there's there are options
out there and you know, thesocial media aspect of being
able to share that with lots ofpeople via that avenue has its
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benefits as well.
Or like we're doing on a littlepodcast episode that people are
gonna listen to.
So Good information.
Now I wanted to ask you alittle bit.
It just came to mind as we weretalking.
So we have this toxicity issueand then we have parasites, and
these are two things that arenot as as common in the general
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Language of health and wellness,at least outside of our world,
would you say.
It's kind of a dual Situation.
Or do the toxins come first andthen parasite later, or do they
feed off of each other?
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, it's kind of like a chicken and an egg
situation.
So what I usually find isthere's a toxicity that weakens
the body.
So either they've been exposedto a pesticide by eating certain
foods, or glyphosate fromsomebody spraying the yard I
can't believe how many peoplestill spray their yards with
life, with Roundup it's crazy.
All sorts of toxins that wereexposed to every day, like we
said, the makeup, those types ofthings.
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So the toxicity is going toweaken the body, weaken the
mitochondria, so at a cellularlevel the body can't heal as
well, it can't protect itself aswell, so the autonomic nervous
system is at a deficit.
Then parasites areopportunistic.
So then maybe you eat someorganic lettuce that maybe
wasn't washed properly andorganic lettuce and have
pesticides, so there could beparasite eggs on the lettuce.
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A lot of our food comes fromMexico, and Mexico is known for
parasites.
I have quite a few Mexicanpatients and they will tell me
my mom used to give us parasiteprotocols all the time because
we knew parasites were a thing.
So it's something that othercountries knew about and they
take care of.
But we are too good forparasites here, so we don't have
those, but we get our food fromother countries.
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So what's going to happen?
Right?
Sushi, huge source of parasites.
There's so many differentsources of parasites.
What I always find is thatparasites are the bringers in of
a lot of other things, so thetoxins usually come first.
Body's weakened.
Parasites are opportunistic.
You have organs that are alittle bit stressed out.
Parasites come in.
Their job is to be cleanup crew.
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So say you have, your pancreasis a little stressed out, for
some reason it's leaking someproteins.
Parasites say, oh, I'm going toeat those proteins, so let's go
ahead and eat those proteins.
That's our job.
Got to be cleanup crew.
They then get stuck in thepancreas.
They get stuck in the pancreasand they can't get out.
Then blood sugar starts to gooff and then hormone starts to
go off and then diabetes starts.
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So one of the main causes ofdiabetes that we see are
parasites that actually eat thetail and the head of the
pancreas.
They actually start feeding onthe organ, putting holes in the
organ.
They contribute to the gutbeing leaky, impermeable gut
Right.
You see all of these things Iwould love to talk a little bit
about, if we can.
Why parasites aren't found bymedical doctors.
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Can I talk about that?
It's really interesting becausea lot of times even stool
testing, because people willthink they have parasites.
Maybe they saw them, they won'tgo into the bathroom and they.
We have a lot of poop talk inour practice because we have to
talk about digestion a lot.
So it's one of those thingsthat can't be taboo.
You guys talk about it.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
People will say well, I got tested and I don't have
parasites, but we find them.
The muscle test finds them,blood work.
You can find them If you lookon your labs.
When you take a CBC and chempanel differential and look at
basophils, acinophils, and thenwhen you're looking at
neutrophils and lymphocytes andmonocytes.
There's two things there thatare basophils and acinophils.
If they're different than theyshould be, number wise, that
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means you could possibly haveparasites.
They can show up in blood work.
Why it doesn't show up in yourregular testing is that
parasites are like.
Think of a bowl of Skittles.
You've got all the colors ofthe rainbow in your bowl of
Skittles.
So, say the green Skittles, Itake them all out of the bowl
and I put them in one corner ofthe bowl.
So the bowl still has the greenSkittles in it.
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But when I put my hand intograb the Skittles, I have no
green Skittles in my hand.
Okay, they're not there.
Does it mean they're not in thebowl?
No, they're over here, so Icouldn't reach them.
So when you have a stool test,you're only taking the stool
from that first end of the colon.
Well, the parasites aren'tgoing to be sitting there.
Usually they're all going to besomewhere else.
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They're way up in theintestinal system, maybe they're
in the brain, maybe they're inthe sinus cavity, maybe they're
in the liver.
There's liver flukes, there'slung flukes.
There's all different types ofparasite that could be affecting
you negatively that may never,ever ever show up in a stool
test because of that Skittleanalogy, because they're just
not right there at the surface.
So nine times out of 10,testing of any kind is going to.
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Besides, muscle testing isgoing to miss the parasites.
Parasites also bring in majorpathogens like Lyme.
So I'm a Lyme specialist aswell.
Lyme disease is what brought meto becoming a practitioner,
because I had it for over 25years.
Chronic Lyme.
I suffered for a long timeillness-wise, my illnesses are
what brought me to what I dobasically, and we know for a
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fact that most of the people whohave Lyme in their systems have
never remembered being bittenby a tick.
Well, lyme comes in fromdifferent places.
It can come from gettingscratched by a stick that was
peed on by an animal that wasinfected with Lyme.
It can come from gnats,mosquitoes, lice, any type of
bug bite of any kind.
It's also sexually transmitted.
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It can cross the blood brainbarrier.
There's so many things for Lyme,but one of the main things that
Lyme comes from is parasites.
Say, a parasite bites your dog,it can get into your dog.
Your dog licks you, you getparasites from your dog licking
you and now you have a parasitethat has Lyme in it, because
lots of animals already haveLyme.
So then the Lyme is now in you.
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Lyme is very ubiquitous to thepopulation.
A lot of people have it intheir systems.
They may not have full-blownLyme disease, because that's a
little bit more, but they mighthave Lyme bacteria or Bartonella
or Babesia or Ehrlichia, whichare Lyme co-infections
contributed to by parasiticinfection.
So we have to kind of figureout what's there, how it got
there and take care of it.
So it's a huge kind of tangledweb of issues that parasites can
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contribute to and the toxinsstart there.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Right.
Well, it starts with a toxinsRight which we're surrounded by
in the modern world.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, I mean I'm sitting on a chair that's
probably got from Abahaidin andmy walls were painted with paint
and my light is emittingphosphorus and my computer is
made with everything.
I mean you can't get away fromit.
You literally can't.
My clothes are not organiccotton, so there's something in
them, I'm sure.
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Right, yeah, yeah.
And that kind of goes back tosome people say you just need to
eat well, but it seems like themore I work with people and
learn from other practitionersand whatnot, it's almost like
you have to be on a proactivedetox type of ants, with your
own health and others because ofthe amount of toxins we're
(31:53):
exposed to.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, I mean.
Detox is a dirty word, though.
It's like the D word, it's likedon't talk to me about detox,
because your body should bedoing it.
Yes, our body should be doingit.
Our liver should be able to getthrough all the phases of detox
and take care of your systemright.
But why can't they?
Well, our food system is socontaminated and the soils are
so depleted.
If you're not looking atbiodynamic farming or
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agricultural, where they'redoing organic, sustainable
practices, the things that aregrown there's not enough
nitrogen in the soil.
Copper is almost completelydepleted in the soil.
A lot of people are deficientin copper, which is an essential
trace mineral, trace nutrients.
We're almost all deficient inmagnesium.
We don't have the right amountsof calcium in our bodies.
When I do the testing that I do,the lab testing it shows ink
(32:40):
levels, b, vitamin D levels,vitamins, minerals and
electrolytes are always off.
Why, a lot of my patients comein.
They already eat.
Well.
How come they're not healthy?
Why are their?
Why are the labs look so bad?
Why are they coming up sonutritional and deficient?
Well, there's nothing we canreally do about that food wise,
except do our best and eat wholefood healthy, because unless
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you're growing your foodyourself and you know how to
balance your soil.
It's just not going to happenanymore.
It's just so depleted.
So we have to be more proactivein figuring out how can we add
to our nutrition.
There are some things that youmight always need to be on.
So we do DNA.
We do it's called NutrogenomicsDNA testing.
It's a nutritional based DNAtesting that we also utilize in
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practice to see what youroverall deficiencies are.
It tells you if you're ahunter-gatherer genetically, if
you are a farmer, like eatingtype genetically.
And it's interesting becauseI'm in Iowa now and looking at
people's genetics.
I am from New Jersey, my familyis from Italy and I am more of
a hunter-gatherer, but everysingle person that I've tested
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in Iowa comes up as farmer.
Well, why?
Well, because it's the Midwestand it's all farming, so they
live off the land, it's allfarming, agriculture, but
they're deficient.
Why?
Because the soil's depleted.
So we're seeing this huge issueas an ongoing issue that we have
to give supplements.
So some people say there's nosuch thing as deaning detox.
(34:05):
Your body can do it yourselfand then you don't ever need
supplements because you get itfrom your food.
Well, both of those statementsare completely false.
Maybe that was okay 60, 70, 80,100 years ago, but it's not
okay now because things havechanged.
You have to supplement.
Supplement is completelynecessary because you have to
reestablish a baseline,reestablish a homeostasis in the
body, rebalance nutritionbecause we're depleted.
(34:27):
You drink a can of soda.
You've just completely wipedout a lot of different things.
You take one round ofantibiotics.
You don't have the proper gutflora for maybe a year.
So we're doing things on adaily basis.
Metformin depletes nutrition,satin drugs knock out nutrition.
So you have to look at all thenutritional deficiencies even
the drugs you're taking aredoing.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Wow, yeah, no, it's a lot and it can be overwhelming,
I think, and sometimes peopleare like, well, it's too much,
I'm just going to do what I can.
That I already do.
I'm not doing horribly, but italmost feels like there's such a
higher level of health for thesociety as a whole that has been
(35:08):
lost sight of and that has tobe reestablished in each
individual before they sometimesreach for a lot of these
methods.
At least that's something I'venoticed at times.
But, okay, great.
Now I wanted to ask you youmentioned a couple of times that
you also work on men's hormones, and we don't do a lot of that
(35:29):
here, honestly.
But I was wondering what thingsdo you work on with men and
whatnot?
Both my personal curiosity and,just as since you brought it up
, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So younger and younger we're finding that
prostate.
There's prostate issues withmen.
So men are having huge issueswith their prostates younger and
younger, like 20s, 30s, early40s and that can contribute to a
lot of hormone imbalances.
We also see a lot of lowtestosterone, so a lot of low T
cases, and so there are a lot ofthings that we can do in
regards to men's health byremoving the toxins, removing
(36:01):
the immune system challengesfirst, and then rebalancing and
being able to raise up thetestosterone naturally, without
doing any type of hormonereplacements for them as well.
We can help men just like wecan help women.
We do, like I said, we do a lotof fertility cases.
So a lot of times with my,fertility cases actually require
both partners.
So, because it's not just herfault that she's not getting
(36:22):
pregnant, there's a lot going onwith him as well as far as
hormone imbalances and viralissues, parasitic issues that
are contributing to either notbeing able to sustain a
pregnancy, with lots ofmiscarriages, or not being able
to get pregnant in the firstplace, with low sperm counts,
and those types of things.
So we help with all of thatvery naturally.
So we change nutrition, we getrid of toxins.
(36:44):
We get rid of immune systemchallenges, and then there's
lots of amazing herbal therapiesfor men in getting that handled
, and then also things likenitric oxide and we use
something called cardiomiraclewhich is amazing for oxygenating
cardiovascular health.
We do a lot of rock-tidaldysfunction work where that's an
issue as well, and that's a lotof cardiovascular issues,
(37:05):
circulatory, so you name it formen.
We have helped in all thosesituations, even with prostate
cancers.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Wow, wow, yeah.
Yeah, it's just something thatwe haven't delved into, but
there's definitely a lot ofpeople dealing with that type of
thing out there.
I saw something on speaking ofsocial media a few weeks ago and
I don't know how valid it is.
You always take these thingswith a grain of salt.
It said something about thetestosterone level of the
(37:35):
40-year-old.
Like in present time40-year-old male was similar to
the testosterone level of a 60or 70-year-old male, like 50
years ago, or something.
Is that something you can speakto?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, and not to be controversial or offensive, but
it's the soy boys.
Soy has literally ruined menand their testosterone.
So, what happened is theintroduction of soy formula.
A lot of men or boys, babies,were fed soy formula and it
raised the estrogen.
It's very estrogenic.
(38:11):
Estrogen is higher,testosterone is low.
So we're seeing literal changesin men, from boys on, in
physical structure, testosteronelevels, hormone levels, how
they look, how they talk, howthey act, very feminizing,
because the more soy that youput in your body when you're
developing, the more yourhormones are going to be off.
(38:34):
So that is one of the majorcontributing factors to this
testosterone issue being really,really low.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
We recommend that with ourclients who come in who are
women, who are in any sort ofhormonal imbalance.
We're always like, okay, youhave any soy in your diet, good,
it's gone.
But yeah, I could see thatrelating to men as well, of
course.
So let me ask you this this isa question I've had, because we
(39:02):
see this, we see people come offsoy and things balance better.
They respond more to the herbsand the supplements and
everything.
There's other things they needto come off of as well, of
course, and all the toxicity.
So we have our segment of theworld here, the Americas or
whatever you want to say, butthere's a whole segment, from
(39:24):
what I understand, in the ChinaAsia area that actually has
lived off of soy or soy typeproducts for centuries unless
that's propaganda, but that'swhat I understand.
Do you have any?
Can you speak to or clarifywhat the discrepancy is, why we
react so badly to it?
And then there's a populationthat seems to do okay with it.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, so for my understanding is that in Asia
they utilize a lot of fermentedsoy, so they don't do a lot.
They don't eat a ton of juststraight up tofu.
They use most tempeh andfermented soy sauce and the
fermentation process doesn'tallow for that much estrogen so
(40:07):
it actually changes it.
It takes it out more.
So if you eat more fermented.
So I actually do recommendfermented soy for some things
for health reasons, non-gmo,obviously, because genetically
modified soy is one of thehighest genetic modifications in
the highest glyphosate crop.
So you have to watch whatyou're doing.
But they don't eat a ton oftofu.
So if you look at traditionalAsian meals, it's not full of
(40:29):
tofu and fermented soy.
Now they do edamame, so there'sgoing to be some in that, but
it's not as high as you wouldthink.
In Asian countries.
It's more of the fermentation.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense, because you work
with clients and occasionallyget thrown questions you don't
quite know how to answer, andthen you're like, okay, well,
I'll figure that out and tellthem later.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, but okay cool.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Thank you for that Great.
So we cover a lot abouthormones and how you deal with
those things Related to allthese different topics.
Is there something?
Because there's a lot ofinformation, it can be
overwhelming Somebody who's newto this.
Where would you say they shouldstart if they're experiencing,
maybe, some body issues thathaven't been able to be
(41:13):
explained by their doctor, orwhatever?
What's a good place for someoneto start producing themselves
to these concepts?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, I mean I always recommend getting professional
help, find a muscle testingpractitioner, an advanced
practitioner, somewhere in thecountry.
There's a lot of us around andthat is kind of the first step
because we all educate most ofus well I wouldn't say all those
those are really good ateducating patients as well.
And then, following some of uson social media there's we give
(41:42):
a lot of information for free onsocial media.
As far as accurate information,a lot of us do workshops that
you can watch publicly.
So I know I've done tons andhundreds of them, so they're
always in my video archives ofFacebook page and there are
reputable MDs and DOs out therewho we are colleagues with that
(42:02):
give information.
Like I said, like Dr JoleneBrighton and Dr Wolfson, and
there are a lot of people outthere that you can get accurate
information from.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, yeah.
So it seems like you just haveto be open to the idea that if
your body is not being fixed bywhat's supposed to doctor
conventional type situation,then there might be other
information, and just be open togoing and working with somebody
who has that information in, oreducating yourself on it as
well.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, Having an open mind and also realizing that the
definition of insanity is doingthe same thing over and over
again and expecting differentresults.
So if you are having healthissues continually, year after
year after year, and you'restill doing the same things to
fix it, it might be time to takea step back and say listen, I'm
worth more than this.
I can't fill from an empty cupand I need to figure something
(42:52):
out the different outs.
You have to be able to openyour mind, because a lot of the
alternative practices that we do, and a lot of us as
practitioners do, are notconsidered mainstream and they
might seem a little bit wackier,strange, but they work.
And you have to be able to bewilling to have that open
mindness to say, okay, nothingI'm doing is working.
(43:13):
This is my last hope.
I'm sick.
Can you please just help mefigure this out?
So that's what we're all herefor.
We just want to help youdetermine what's going on and
just help you find a better way.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Awesome, I love that.
Okay, great.
So thank you so much for allthis amazing information.
I know there's probably we'vejust scratched the surface of
some of the information that youcould provide, but I think
we've got a good package herefor people to listen to in this
episode, so I'm excited to getthat out to everybody.
Now, if somebody wants to get ahold of you or work with you
(43:46):
directly, I know you have yourthree physical practices brick
and mortar but then you also doworldwide virtual practices how
does somebody get a hold of youor your practice?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, the best way to find us is just go to our
website and there's contactforms on there.
So wwwnhiccenterscom is ourwebsite address and you can see
what we do, kind of what we'reabout, and then also contact us
through there.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Perfect, simple enough.
Okay, great, and is thereanything else you wanted to
mention before we wrap things uphere?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Just that.
Like I said before, you'reworth you, watching, listening.
You're worth more than whatyour health is telling you and
you're not your diagnosis.
So take a minute, do a selfevaluation.
How are you feeling?
Do you feel amazing?
If you don't feel amazing, youshould.
So find a way to live the lifeyou're meant to live.
(44:42):
We're not meant to survive,we're meant to thrive.
So that is my goal foreverybody out there listening is
that you kind of have an openmind and that you move forward
into that path of healing andfind a way to thrive.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Amazing.
There we go.
I love it.
Okay, great.
So thank you so much for beingon today, sarah, we'll get this
right out, and all theinformation we went over on
contact data will be in the shownotes as well.
Thanks again, sarah, and well,we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Thanks, Ryan.
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