November 14, 2024 • 14 mins
Understanding the Impact of Trauma and Stress on Heart Health
In this episode of the Innate Ability and Health podcast, with your podcast host Ryan Kimball, who discusses the connection between emotions, trauma, stress, and heart health.
Highlighting the work with Natural Heart Doctor & Dr. Jack Wolfson on a holistic mind-body program, the episode emphasizes the importance of addressing the root causes of stress and trauma to prevent conditions like Broken Heart Syndrome.
Ryan explains the significance of understanding and mitigating lifelong stressors and trauma, using evidence-based information to showcase how unhandled emotional stress can manifest physically. With insights into studies from Japan, Mayo Clinic, and Harvard, the episode underscores the need for proactive stress management.
Studies and Research Referenced:
- Japanese Research on Takotsubo Cardiomyopathy: First identified in Japan in 1990, Takotsubo cardiomyopathy derives its name from the Japanese term for an octopus trap, reflecting the heart's distinctive shape during an episode. The condition predominantly affects postmenopausal women and is typically precipitated by severe emotional or physical stressors.
BJCardio - Mayo Clinic's Diagnostic Criteria: The Mayo Clinic has established diagnostic criteria for Takotsubo cardiomyopathy, emphasizing transient left ventricular dysfunction, absence of obstructive coronary disease, new electrocardiographic abnormalities, and the exclusion of other causes like myocarditis. These guidelines assist clinicians in accurately identifying and managing the syndrome.
Mayo Clinic Proceedings - Harvard's Insights into the Brain-Heart Connection: Researchers at Harvard-affiliated Massachusetts General Hospital have investigated the role of the brain in Broken Heart Syndrome. Their studies indicate that heightened activity in the brain's stress centers, particularly the amygdala, may increase the risk of developing this condition. This underscores the importance of addressing chronic stress to maintain heart health.
Harvard News
Key Takeaways:
- Holistic Mind-Body Approach: Collaborations with experts like Dr. Jack Wolfson highlight the necessity of addressing both psychological and physiological aspects of health. Implementing holistic strategies can effectively mitigate the impact of stress and trauma on the heart.
- Proactive Stress Management: Understanding and managing lifelong stressors are crucial in preventing conditions like Broken Heart Syndrome. Incorporating stress-reduction techniques, such as mindfulness, therapy, and lifestyle modifications, can significantly enhance cardiovascular health.
For more information contact Ryan at cm@naturalheartdoctor.com or find him on Instagram @ryanmarkkimball
Disclaimer:
This podcast is for general informational purposes only. It should not be used to self-diagnose, and it is not a substitute for a medical exam, cure, treatment, diagnosis, prescription, or recommendation. Always seek the advice of a physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Innate
Ability and Health podcast.
Recently, I was inspired toreboot this podcast.
Right now I'm working veryclosely with natural heart
doctor Dr Jack Wolfson oncreating a holistic mind-body
program that actually addressesthe underlying trauma and stress
(00:22):
directly related to heartconditions and different
cardiovascular events a personmay have.
So it's very exciting and it isvery cutting edge.
This type of root causeapproach to what's going on with
a person's health specificallyheart health in this case and
(00:42):
trauma and stress, is notsomething that's being done and
it really should be.
There's no reason it couldn'tbe and I'm so happy to be
developing this and seeing theresults and reaping the benefits
, helping others reap thebenefits from it.
So, that said, let's dive intowhat I wanted to go over today.
I really want to help peopleunderstand that emotions, trauma
(01:05):
, stress are directly related toa person's state of health,
specifically heart health.
The heart does seem to be oneof the most emotionally engaged
organs.
Whatever reason you might givefor that.
There is a lot of informationbehind that, but we're not going
to dive into all of that todayand spend the next three hours
(01:27):
sorting that out.
What we're going to get into issome more practical information
and evidence-based informationthat you can look at.
So I wanted to talk a little bittoday about broken heart
syndrome, because this issomething that a lot of people
have heard of and have somemaybe experience with, or at
least know the concept of it.
Even this saying that hurts myheart, you know.
(01:50):
Seeing something traumatic orsad, you know, makes my heart
hurt.
These type of things.
This is not just a cliche.
It has actually been found andthere were studies done on this
over 30 years ago in Japan.
They call it Takotsubo syndrome, broken heart syndrome,
basically what it is.
(02:11):
They noticed that individualswho had experienced intense
trauma, stress, emotionalsituations in life tended to
have at least some of them, thesymptoms of a heart attack.
And these symptoms were notjust in their head, quote
unquote they actually could bemeasured physically.
(02:31):
The person had shortness ofbreath, they had their heartbeat
going very rapidly, a weaknessin the heart muscle activity All
of these things that would showa person is actually having a
heart attack were present, butthe person had no prior history
of heart disease or having heartattacks or anything.
There was no physical reasonwhy they should be experiencing
(02:55):
those symptoms, which werecompletely evident.
When tested, the only thingthat was present was this
traumatic emotional incidentthat they were experiencing,
this traumatic stress or highstress situation in their life
right, and from that the personwas getting all these symptoms.
Now since then, since the 90s,there have been many studies to
(03:18):
back this up.
There was a study done at theMayo Clinic that went over
examining this phenomena as welland found the same results.
There were many times when aperson had these traumatic
events in life heavy stress, etcetera and exhibit the symptoms
of a heart attack right.
And at Harvard they morerecently did a study where they
(03:41):
were looking at what are theareas of the brain that light up
, so to speak, when a person isunder stress and could these be
used to predict broken heartsyndrome where a person might
exhibit the symptoms of a heartattack or weakened heart muscle
due to stress and stressfulevents or trauma in life.
And they found that to be true.
(04:02):
They could actually predictwith some accuracy that this was
going to occur.
So really evidence-basedinformation here that we need to
be in control of our stress andwe need to have our trauma
handled so it's not to the pointwhere it affects us physically,
because whether it's fromtrauma and stress or a lifetime
(04:23):
of eating bad food or somethingelse.
Having a heart attack issomething we all want to avoid.
We want to make sure thatpeople around us that we care
and love definitely never haveto experience.
So let's take a look at this.
I want to make a littlecomparison here to something
that most people in the naturalheart and natural health world
(04:45):
will understand.
So you probably heard of thisconcept of a person just builds
up toxins over a lifetime, andsometimes it's called the bucket
theory, where we go throughchildhood and we don't eat
organic and we're exposed toglyphosate, and maybe we live by
a farm that sprays regularly orwe use Roundup in our yard or
(05:07):
whatever it is.
We get lots of these toxins inour system.
It just keeps building andbuilding, and maybe we live in a
building that has mold in it.
At some point we get exposed tosome mold and our toxic load
just keeps building up as we ageand at some point our bucket,
so to speak, or our bodybasically gets full and that
last little bit of toxicityenters our system and we get
(05:30):
sick.
Some people get severely sickor they develop an autoimmune
disease or something else occursright Trauma and stress,
emotional loss these have thesame exact phenomena and they
really should be taken upseparately.
Some people have experienced somuch loss in their life that
(05:52):
their bucket is just completelyfull and the next thing that
they lose, the next relationshipthat goes wrong or thing in
life that they can't have,breaks the camel's back, so to
speak.
It is the thing that sets themover the edge and causes the
cascade of physical degenerationevents that might occur,
(06:14):
whether that's a heart attack orhaving hormonal imbalance, or
not being able to sleep orcognitive decline, whatever that
is and it applies for stress aswell We've all gone through
life.
There are stressful things inchildhood.
Going to school is not alwaysthe greatest thing.
Having to train and learn a joband make money this can
sometimes be stressful.
(06:35):
Marriage, love these thingshave stress in them as well as
the joy that they bring Havingkids, buying a house all of
these things just build up thatbucket full of stress and at
some point in our lives earlierfor some, later for others, and
more dramatic or less dramaticdepending on the person that
(06:56):
stress overflows and you mightget this broken heart syndrome
occurring for someone.
So it's really important, yes,to learn how to mitigate stress
in the present, but it's evenmore important perhaps, to empty
out that bucket of stress froma lifetime of stressful events.
And it doesn't just go awaybecause we decide it goes away.
(07:19):
It's saying I had toxic heavymetal poisoning from lead pipes
that I drank for 20 years from,that were in our house or
whatever, and I'm just going todecide that it no longer affects
me.
Good, I'm good to go right.
Obviously, nobody would thinkthat it's ludicrous, but for
some reason the same isn'trecognized of things like stress
(07:42):
and trauma and loss.
And it really should be,because there are specific, very
simple techniques that you canuse to quote unquote detox that
stress, that trauma and maybethe losses that one has
experienced.
It's not to say that thesethings go away, but the
(08:03):
negativity that they can have ona physical, emotional and
mental level can be reduced andeliminated if done correctly.
Hopefully that makes sense.
I wanted to make sure thatpeople understood this, because
it is really important andthere's a misunderstanding about
it that it's not handleable orit's something I just have to
(08:26):
live with, or the only way tohandle stress is to avoid it,
and that's another thing I'dlike to make sure we bring up
today is that avoiding stress isnot a valid approach.
While, yes, maybe don't go anddo something that you know is
going to set you over the edgethat's common sense but the real
(08:46):
answer to stress is learningwhat is the source of it and
then communicating and figuringout ways to handle and address
it.
Now that may sound like toosimple, or I know the source of
my stress it's my bank account.
It's always empty or whateverit is right.
But really there's more to itthan that.
(09:10):
There are underlying steps thatcould be taken to put you at a
point where you're just slightlygently able to handle and
control that, and then thatsnowballs into the point where
you're really able to handle itat some point and it's no longer
even an issue.
So I think that's reallyimportant and for you to
(09:32):
understand that when you're notstressed, that doesn't mean that
all your past stress is nowgone and you don't have to worry
about it, just sitting therewaiting for the next thing to
possibly set it off Not to putanybody in a state of fear or
apprehension, but there's alsothe state of confronting where
things really are at andconfronting what you need to
(09:54):
know and understand in order tomake changes.
This is important.
It's not as simple as I decided.
I no longer feel bad about theloss of my pet or the loss of a
loved one family member.
I put that behind me of a lovedone family member.
I put that behind me, right.
(10:15):
Are you able to put behind youtoxic mold toxicity that is now
eating away at your organs andcausing you to be in a state of
such pain that you can't evenfunction in life?
No, it doesn't work that way.
Well, trauma, it doesn't workthat way either, and I don't
want to put anybody in a pointwhere they feel like they can't
do something about it, becausethere are very simple solutions
(10:35):
to do that Just changing yourviewpoint in present time, that
you're not going to just avoidand figure out ways not to be
stressed, but instead you'regoing to attack things head on
and really understand what'sgoing on around you and
communicate until things resolve.
That's the right approach.
Right and when a what's goingon around you and communicate
until things resolve.
That's the right approach.
Right.
(10:56):
And when a person's reallystressed, there's a source of it
, there's someone in theirenvironment that is creating
that stress, or there'ssomething that isn't resolving
due to different factors thatare posed against each other and
therefore not resolving.
And when those things arelocated it is a little magical
(11:17):
the stress will just dissolveand often situations just sort
out and calm down to a verygreat degree, if not completely.
So I wanted to make sure thatno one was thinking that I'm
saying stress isn't handleableor stress isn't something you
can do something about, becauseit definitely is same thing with
trauma, same thing with loss,but they have to be handled
(11:41):
right.
The heart is a very emotionalorgan.
It's been known for thousandsand thousands of years in
Chinese medicine, apparently,that you store emotions in
different parts of the body.
And now Western medicine, theWestern world, is just starting
to catch up with this conceptapparently and we really need to
get on board and actuallyhandle the trauma and use the
(12:03):
scientific approach that we havein the Western world that's
very effective on so many levelsto really figure this out, and
we have figured it out here atNatural Heart Doctor and I
definitely can help you Think ofit this way you have a symptom
in present time A person's gotAFib that can be traced back to
(12:25):
a very specific instance oftrauma or several different
instances of trauma that aremaybe connected or associated
somehow.
That, when resolved, willeliminate the traumatic aspect
that is contributing to AFib inthe current moment.
Same thing could be said ofstress.
(12:47):
Regarding AFib, if a personknows they get stressed, it
kicks in that symptom andconnection can be traced back
and it's not a current thing,it's something from the past
that has built up in the bucket,so to speak, and now you're
being affected by it in thepresent moment.
Same thing for loss.
I see so many people who comein and have cardiovascular
(13:09):
issues or risk having lossthat's unhandled in their past
and often I put that behind meor I came to terms with it or
that's not exactly how it works.
I appreciate people trying toget on with life and cope and
make the best of things, but wecan do better and you need to do
(13:30):
better to have optimal healthperiod.
All of these things can beresolved and you can trace back
what's going on physically inthe present moment to the trauma
, loss and stress in the pastand resolve it simply and
effectively.
But you have to be willing tolook at it and understand how
this works, which is a littlebeyond just a short podcast
(13:52):
episode, but I will do more ofthese and do some presentations
as well, so that you can havemore of an understanding about
how this works.
So thank you for listening.
I really appreciate people whoare willing to look at these
areas and handle them and getthe results that are there to be
had.
Feel free to reach out to meanytime.
You can email me, cm atnaturalheartdoctorcom.
(14:15):
You can find me on Instagram,ryan Mark Kimball.
I work with a lot of people asa holistic mind body
practitioner and help themresolve these things very well.
Thank you, have a great rest ofyour day.
I'll see you in the nextepisode.
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Innate
Ability and Health podcast.
Recently, I was inspired toreboot this podcast.
Right now I'm working veryclosely with natural heart
doctor Dr Jack Wolfson oncreating a holistic mind-body
program that actually addressesthe underlying trauma and stress
(00:22):
directly related to heartconditions and different
cardiovascular events a personmay have.
So it's very exciting and it isvery cutting edge.
This type of root causeapproach to what's going on with
a person's health specificallyheart health in this case and
(00:42):
trauma and stress, is notsomething that's being done and
it really should be.
There's no reason it couldn'tbe and I'm so happy to be
developing this and seeing theresults and reaping the benefits
, helping others reap thebenefits from it.
So, that said, let's dive intowhat I wanted to go over today.
I really want to help peopleunderstand that emotions, trauma
(01:05):
, stress are directly related toa person's state of health,
specifically heart health.
The heart does seem to be oneof the most emotionally engaged
organs.
Whatever reason you might givefor that.
There is a lot of informationbehind that, but we're not going
to dive into all of that todayand spend the next three hours
(01:27):
sorting that out.
What we're going to get into issome more practical information
and evidence-based informationthat you can look at.
So I wanted to talk a little bittoday about broken heart
syndrome, because this issomething that a lot of people
have heard of and have somemaybe experience with, or at
least know the concept of it.
Even this saying that hurts myheart, you know.
(01:50):
Seeing something traumatic orsad, you know, makes my heart
hurt.
These type of things.
This is not just a cliche.
It has actually been found andthere were studies done on this
over 30 years ago in Japan.
They call it Takotsubo syndrome, broken heart syndrome,
basically what it is.
(02:11):
They noticed that individualswho had experienced intense
trauma, stress, emotionalsituations in life tended to
have at least some of them, thesymptoms of a heart attack.
And these symptoms were notjust in their head, quote
unquote they actually could bemeasured physically.
(02:31):
The person had shortness ofbreath, they had their heartbeat
going very rapidly, a weaknessin the heart muscle activity All
of these things that would showa person is actually having a
heart attack were present, butthe person had no prior history
of heart disease or having heartattacks or anything.
There was no physical reasonwhy they should be experiencing
(02:55):
those symptoms, which werecompletely evident.
When tested, the only thingthat was present was this
traumatic emotional incidentthat they were experiencing,
this traumatic stress or highstress situation in their life
right, and from that the personwas getting all these symptoms.
Now since then, since the 90s,there have been many studies to
(03:18):
back this up.
There was a study done at theMayo Clinic that went over
examining this phenomena as welland found the same results.
There were many times when aperson had these traumatic
events in life heavy stress, etcetera and exhibit the symptoms
of a heart attack right.
And at Harvard they morerecently did a study where they
(03:41):
were looking at what are theareas of the brain that light up
, so to speak, when a person isunder stress and could these be
used to predict broken heartsyndrome where a person might
exhibit the symptoms of a heartattack or weakened heart muscle
due to stress and stressfulevents or trauma in life.
And they found that to be true.
(04:02):
They could actually predictwith some accuracy that this was
going to occur.
So really evidence-basedinformation here that we need to
be in control of our stress andwe need to have our trauma
handled so it's not to the pointwhere it affects us physically,
because whether it's fromtrauma and stress or a lifetime
(04:23):
of eating bad food or somethingelse.
Having a heart attack issomething we all want to avoid.
We want to make sure thatpeople around us that we care
and love definitely never haveto experience.
So let's take a look at this.
I want to make a littlecomparison here to something
that most people in the naturalheart and natural health world
(04:45):
will understand.
So you probably heard of thisconcept of a person just builds
up toxins over a lifetime, andsometimes it's called the bucket
theory, where we go throughchildhood and we don't eat
organic and we're exposed toglyphosate, and maybe we live by
a farm that sprays regularly orwe use Roundup in our yard or
(05:07):
whatever it is.
We get lots of these toxins inour system.
It just keeps building andbuilding, and maybe we live in a
building that has mold in it.
At some point we get exposed tosome mold and our toxic load
just keeps building up as we ageand at some point our bucket,
so to speak, or our bodybasically gets full and that
last little bit of toxicityenters our system and we get
(05:30):
sick.
Some people get severely sickor they develop an autoimmune
disease or something else occursright Trauma and stress,
emotional loss these have thesame exact phenomena and they
really should be taken upseparately.
Some people have experienced somuch loss in their life that
(05:52):
their bucket is just completelyfull and the next thing that
they lose, the next relationshipthat goes wrong or thing in
life that they can't have,breaks the camel's back, so to
speak.
It is the thing that sets themover the edge and causes the
cascade of physical degenerationevents that might occur,
(06:14):
whether that's a heart attack orhaving hormonal imbalance, or
not being able to sleep orcognitive decline, whatever that
is and it applies for stress aswell We've all gone through
life.
There are stressful things inchildhood.
Going to school is not alwaysthe greatest thing.
Having to train and learn a joband make money this can
sometimes be stressful.
(06:35):
Marriage, love these thingshave stress in them as well as
the joy that they bring Havingkids, buying a house all of
these things just build up thatbucket full of stress and at
some point in our lives earlierfor some, later for others, and
more dramatic or less dramaticdepending on the person that
(06:56):
stress overflows and you mightget this broken heart syndrome
occurring for someone.
So it's really important, yes,to learn how to mitigate stress
in the present, but it's evenmore important perhaps, to empty
out that bucket of stress froma lifetime of stressful events.
And it doesn't just go awaybecause we decide it goes away.
(07:19):
It's saying I had toxic heavymetal poisoning from lead pipes
that I drank for 20 years from,that were in our house or
whatever, and I'm just going todecide that it no longer affects
me.
Good, I'm good to go right.
Obviously, nobody would thinkthat it's ludicrous, but for
some reason the same isn'trecognized of things like stress
(07:42):
and trauma and loss.
And it really should be,because there are specific, very
simple techniques that you canuse to quote unquote detox that
stress, that trauma and maybethe losses that one has
experienced.
It's not to say that thesethings go away, but the
(08:03):
negativity that they can have ona physical, emotional and
mental level can be reduced andeliminated if done correctly.
Hopefully that makes sense.
I wanted to make sure thatpeople understood this, because
it is really important andthere's a misunderstanding about
it that it's not handleable orit's something I just have to
(08:26):
live with, or the only way tohandle stress is to avoid it,
and that's another thing I'dlike to make sure we bring up
today is that avoiding stress isnot a valid approach.
While, yes, maybe don't go anddo something that you know is
going to set you over the edgethat's common sense but the real
(08:46):
answer to stress is learningwhat is the source of it and
then communicating and figuringout ways to handle and address
it.
Now that may sound like toosimple, or I know the source of
my stress it's my bank account.
It's always empty or whateverit is right.
But really there's more to itthan that.
(09:10):
There are underlying steps thatcould be taken to put you at a
point where you're just slightlygently able to handle and
control that, and then thatsnowballs into the point where
you're really able to handle itat some point and it's no longer
even an issue.
So I think that's reallyimportant and for you to
(09:32):
understand that when you're notstressed, that doesn't mean that
all your past stress is nowgone and you don't have to worry
about it, just sitting therewaiting for the next thing to
possibly set it off Not to putanybody in a state of fear or
apprehension, but there's alsothe state of confronting where
things really are at andconfronting what you need to
(09:54):
know and understand in order tomake changes.
This is important.
It's not as simple as I decided.
I no longer feel bad about theloss of my pet or the loss of a
loved one family member.
I put that behind me of a lovedone family member.
I put that behind me, right.
(10:15):
Are you able to put behind youtoxic mold toxicity that is now
eating away at your organs andcausing you to be in a state of
such pain that you can't evenfunction in life?
No, it doesn't work that way.
Well, trauma, it doesn't workthat way either, and I don't
want to put anybody in a pointwhere they feel like they can't
do something about it, becausethere are very simple solutions
(10:35):
to do that Just changing yourviewpoint in present time, that
you're not going to just avoidand figure out ways not to be
stressed, but instead you'regoing to attack things head on
and really understand what'sgoing on around you and
communicate until things resolve.
That's the right approach.
Right and when a what's goingon around you and communicate
until things resolve.
That's the right approach.
Right.
(10:56):
And when a person's reallystressed, there's a source of it
, there's someone in theirenvironment that is creating
that stress, or there'ssomething that isn't resolving
due to different factors thatare posed against each other and
therefore not resolving.
And when those things arelocated it is a little magical
(11:17):
the stress will just dissolveand often situations just sort
out and calm down to a verygreat degree, if not completely.
So I wanted to make sure thatno one was thinking that I'm
saying stress isn't handleableor stress isn't something you
can do something about, becauseit definitely is same thing with
trauma, same thing with loss,but they have to be handled
(11:41):
right.
The heart is a very emotionalorgan.
It's been known for thousandsand thousands of years in
Chinese medicine, apparently,that you store emotions in
different parts of the body.
And now Western medicine, theWestern world, is just starting
to catch up with this conceptapparently and we really need to
get on board and actuallyhandle the trauma and use the
(12:03):
scientific approach that we havein the Western world that's
very effective on so many levelsto really figure this out, and
we have figured it out here atNatural Heart Doctor and I
definitely can help you Think ofit this way you have a symptom
in present time A person's gotAFib that can be traced back to
(12:25):
a very specific instance oftrauma or several different
instances of trauma that aremaybe connected or associated
somehow.
That, when resolved, willeliminate the traumatic aspect
that is contributing to AFib inthe current moment.
Same thing could be said ofstress.
(12:47):
Regarding AFib, if a personknows they get stressed, it
kicks in that symptom andconnection can be traced back
and it's not a current thing,it's something from the past
that has built up in the bucket,so to speak, and now you're
being affected by it in thepresent moment.
Same thing for loss.
I see so many people who comein and have cardiovascular
(13:09):
issues or risk having lossthat's unhandled in their past
and often I put that behind meor I came to terms with it or
that's not exactly how it works.
I appreciate people trying toget on with life and cope and
make the best of things, but wecan do better and you need to do
(13:30):
better to have optimal healthperiod.
All of these things can beresolved and you can trace back
what's going on physically inthe present moment to the trauma
, loss and stress in the pastand resolve it simply and
effectively.
But you have to be willing tolook at it and understand how
this works, which is a littlebeyond just a short podcast
(13:52):
episode, but I will do more ofthese and do some presentations
as well, so that you can havemore of an understanding about
how this works.
So thank you for listening.
I really appreciate people whoare willing to look at these
areas and handle them and getthe results that are there to be
had.
Feel free to reach out to meanytime.
You can email me, cm atnaturalheartdoctorcom.
(14:15):
You can find me on Instagram,ryan Mark Kimball.
I work with a lot of people asa holistic mind body
practitioner and help themresolve these things very well.
Thank you, have a great rest ofyour day.
I'll see you in the nextepisode.
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