June 22, 2025 • 45 mins
In this raw and powerful episode of the Inner Spark Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Jen Auchter —a chiropractor and functional medicine practitioner—to talk about what happens when we don't listen to our bodies... until they scream.
Together, we unpack the hidden connections between frozen shoulder, stress, perimenopause, back pain, and hormone imbalance. Dr. Auchter shares her personal journey through debilitating injuries, misdiagnoses, and high-performance burnout, and how it sparked her mission to help women heal from the inside out.
This isn’t just about pain—it's about the patterns that led there, the hormones that influence recovery, and the ways we override our own needs in the name of productivity and perfectionism. You’ll walk away with deeper awareness and practical insights into functional medicine, cortisol, the power of rest, and how to navigate life’s forced pauses with compassion and curiosity.
If you’re feeling off, burnt out, or wondering if it’s "just your age"—this conversation is for you.
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Hey friends.
Welcome to the Enter Sparkpodcast.
I'm your host, Casey Caton.
If you're looking to hearstories of transformation and
personal growth, this podcast isfor you.
My guest and I will be sharingthose sparking moments that has
changed the mental living a morefulfilling authentic life.
I'm so excited for you to heareach unique story.
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So sit back, relax, and let'sget started.
Hey friend.
Welcome back to the Enter Sparkpodcast.
I'm your host, Casey Taton.
Today I have a very specialguest with me.
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I promise you guys, I wouldbring someone on to talk about
frozen shoulder and all the funthings I'm going through.
And I have Dr.
Jeanette Ter.
Yes, she is a chiropractor and afunctional medicine
practitioner.
Welcome.
Thank you so much for having me.
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This is so fun.
Fun.
Thanks for coming.
Just a little backstory for myguest listening.
Um, we are both in our mentorKathy Heller's world, and that
is how I'm, I met her if youdon't mind, will you share a
little bit about yourself?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So I was actually listening toone of your podcasts on, if you
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don't listen to your body whenit whispers, you're gonna have
to listen to it when it screams.
And that is actually a big partof my life.
I am a type A people pleaser,perfectionist.
Go, go, go.
And that's how I lived my wholelife, um, which did not serve me
well.
So when I opened my ownpractice, it was just a lot of
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stress.
I kind of thought about worstcase scenario all the time, you
know, like.
My mind, just like, you're gonnafail and you'll be living on the
streets.
So that added a lot to mystress.
And, I had pretty bad back painfor about a year and I ignored
it.
I just kept pushing, kept going,addicted to the cortisol and my
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body spoke to me very loudlywhere I woke up one morning with
severe.
Crazy pain.
Like I have never had pain likethis.
Um, and it was from a discextrusion in my back that was
pressing on my sciatic nerve andit was the worst pain I've ever
experienced.
I told my husband I was dyingmultiple times'cause that's what
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it felt like.
I felt like somebody was justripping my sciatic nerve out of
my leg.
And so from that, I actually hadloss of strength and sensation
in my leg.
So I walked with a limp for fourmonths.
And I still didn't slow down.
Like even then my body was liketry, physically trying to slow
me down and I would not listen.
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But thinking back now, thestress that injury had added to
my life in terms of again,thinking like, oh my gosh, I'm
not gonna be able to do my job.
Um, and so it's crazy'cause sixmonths after that.
Initial injury, I had a seconddisc extrusion with the same
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severe leg pain, and this timeit was in the front of my leg,
so I had foot drop the firsttime.
I couldn't go up onto my tippytoe.
So I then again walked withanother limp, um, with my foot
dropping.
And these were all things thatas a chiropractor, we would
think of as kind of a red flag,where we would send you out to a
neurosurgeon.
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Yep.
I was terrified of surgery.
I, um, had spent some time sinceI couldn't do many activities
watching this crazy show onNetflix called, uh, Dr.
Death, and it was about aneurosurgeon who killed multiple
patients doing surgery.
So I was like, I'm not gettingsurgery.
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I'm gonna figure this out on myown.
So.
It's interesting going throughall of this.
'cause now I can completelyrelate to a lot of my patients
that have had severe back pain,but also going through it
myself, I can see how there'smultiple other issues that you
can develop from a severephysical injury, and that is the
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stress response because it.
Really creates high cortisol forsuch a long period of time that
then depletes your cortisol.
So then I.
Felt it.
Um, I felt like I had nothingleft inside me to give my
stress.
Resilience was gone.
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People would complain aboutstuff and I just couldn't even
take any stress.
Like TV shows.
I was like, I need happy stuffall the time.
I can't take anything stressful.
So, um, from that I actuallystarted having severe, pelvic
pain too.
So.
Every time.
It was interesting'cause everymonth of my cycle, the back and
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the leg pain got worse.
So I knew that there was some,correlation with hormones and
endometriosis into the wholeback injury.
It was such a, a mess ofeverything.
But that dug me deeper into thehormone path.
And has led me where I am nowbecause I love to help women
with hormone issues and as wellas the body and the stress
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response because it's just allso connected as you already
know.
Yeah.
So were you doing all this?
Were you still working, runningyour own business?
Like that's a lot.
Yes.
Let's just like recognize that.
Oh my gosh.
It, it was.
I, yeah, I don't know.
I guess it would've been nice togive myself time to slow down
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and stop, but uh, my brainwouldn't let me do that.
Totally off topic, but were youan athlete?
I.
Are you a um, I played tennis inundergrad and did cross country
until I got chin splints.
And then I played tennis incollege too.
But yeah, those were my sports.
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The reason I was asking isbecause it seems like, so many
people that play sports, I was asoccer player and I was a figure
artistic figure skater likegrowing up.
Oh, wow.
And it's interesting that Ithink there's like some
competitiveness in this.
Yes, I agree.
Yeah.
And it doesn't ever let go.
Like I still play coed soccerand I do CrossFit now as an
adult and Oh wow.
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I try to give myself a break,but I am like addicted to the
movement, yes, you know, workingout and moving my body.
I agree, and I agree with theworking out too because I feel
like when I work out, I feel asense of accomplishment.
Like I've, I feel like, oh, Idid my task for the day, so that
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whole year that I couldn't workout because of my back injury.
It, it, well, like, make, mademe depressed.
I, I felt.
Like a different person and Icould feel it inside my body.
So I totally get the working outand physical activity and how
important it is.
It's so funny that you said thatabout surgery too.
Because I'm a former operatingsurgical technician, I.
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Oh wow.
Yeah.
And so I used to work in theoperating room.
I like, that was my dreamgrowing up is my family was
medical filled and I startedworking at doctor's office, went
through all those schools, youknow, didn't know what I wanted
to do.
Ended up doing that and that'swhen I got sick, um, with my
first condition myself.
Oh my gosh.
I got just completely stopped.
Wow.
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Yeah, that's been.
Years now, I've had bigsurgeries.
I still have a porta cath and ohmy gosh.
Um, but now I'm, I'm able to eatand drink again and.
It forced stopped me.
Of course, I wasn't able to eat,drink, and do all things, and so
I had to travel for Oh, wow.
A diagnosis, because it waslike, you're crazy.
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You know?
Yeah.
I'm not crazy.
How does your gut stop That?
Doesn't work like that.
Yeah.
No, but then, so now I've, I'vegotten better and, I feel like
they killed my immune system andI'm, and I still have a team of
doctors, so I'm not anti-Ddoctor.
I think there's, yeah, there'sreasons you still need to see
doctors and reasons still.
You still need to see surgeons,but I also, it definitely
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changed the way I look at lifeand um, how we can things more
naturally.
And the things that aren'ttalked about.
Yeah.
And I think, you, you mentionedthose and I was like, yes.
Like bring it on.
I'm so excited.
So first of all, what broughtyou into this career path?
I.
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Oh gosh.
I always loved health.
And I didn't know which route togo in undergrad, so I was going
the biology route.
And then since I played tenniscompetitively in college, I had
a lot of knee issues.
So I saw a chiropractor duringthat time and he was just.
Such a great influence and hewrote my letter to get into
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school for me.
And I am very glad I did go thispath because there's so many
avenues and specialties that youcan do with chiropractic.
I do feel like I.
My love definitely is functionalmedicine and hormones and
women's health.
So I'm glad that I found thispath too because it allows me to
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take it in both directions anddeal with the body, physically
and inside and out and allaspects of it.
Yeah, that's amazing.
And.
It's not, nothing bad about likewestern medicine, but they're
only taught one thing.
Yeah.
And so like, then they send youto specialist after specialist
and it's kind of a guessing gameof you chasing doctor after
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doctor.
And it feels like no one evercan communicate with each other.
And, and so like, if you don'tknow medical terms, you're
stuck, like trying to figure itout.
I mean, I'm thankful that Ilearned a lot of medical.
Stuff so I could tell them andexplain from one doctor to
another, but yeah.
Um, yeah, I don't, I don't knowhow people do it if they don't
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have experience.
I know every, I feel likeeveryone needs an advocate, like
a health advocate because youcan just get lost in the medical
system and you don't get thecare that you need or deserve
because you might not havesomebody that can be there to
support you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what really sparked you tokind of like dig more?
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Was it your injuries or wasthere something else that was
like, I'm gonna pivot this way.
Into the function.
Yeah, I think it was, um, I hadalways really, you know, tons of
podcasts just listening to allthose on functional medicine and
just loved that stuff.
I went through the wholeInstitute for Functional
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Medicine courses.
This was like 10 years ago, butI was practicing as an
associate, so I couldn'timplement it.
Into practice then, which waskind of sad because I feel like
I would've retained more of theinformation if I could have
implemented it right away.
So then when I opened my ownpractice, I was like, I am gonna
be adding this into my practice.
So then I did anotherrecertification, Through
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functional medicine and justalways doing webinars and a
podcast junkie.
And sometimes I need to likestop with the learning stuff.
I do love to learn, butsometimes I'm like, man, I need
to listen to some music and likede-stress and not just always
learn to listen to learningthings all the time, but I need,
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I need to work on my balance oflife here.
But yeah, I could see it.
In myself every year, I wouldsay to myself, I'm gonna start
meditating this year.
That's my goal for the year, andI just ignored it every year.
I would ignore all the stressstuff, all the self-care stuff,
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until my body stopped me andforced me to actually look at
all of that.
That's so good.
I hate that we have to gothrough something and that we're
like forced to stop, but that's,the same with me.
I love to learn.
Yeah.
I'm always listening to apodcast.
People are like, don't youlisten to the radio?
Don't you do that?
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And I'm like, I, I just like tolearn.
I just wanna know it all.
Yeah.
Like, I just, you know, I justkeep going and so it's just so
much fun.
Yeah.
Um, so tell.
What I wanna talk about frozenshoulder, but is there anything
else you wanna talk about?
Like leading up to, like digginginto hormones?
Digging into, because it issomething that people, I don't
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know how we make it real thatI'm 41 and how do we make it
okay for people to talk abouthormones and all the things that
we're gonna face without beingembarrassed or like, it's just,
I feel like it's not talkedabout enough.
It's definitely not, I thinkluckily now it's being talked
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about a little bit more.
And I do think a lot of thisstress stuff, the stress
response are, you know, type Apersonalities that's causing us
to go into perimenopauseearlier.
I know that I started intoperimenopause in my late.
Thirties, which is insane.
Like when I used to think aboutmenopause stuff, I'd be like,
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oh, I'd I'd be like 60 yearsold.
No.
Yeah.
Like it's crazy to think howlong you're in a perimenopause
and some of these symptoms thatwe have, like you're like, I'm
gonna have this for 15 years.
That's insane.
Like that's why it's soimportant to like do something
about it now and help yourselfthrough these 15 year transition
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period.
Because you could be miserableand it's not, not okay.
Not okay to live that way.
Because when I started lookingat my connection with my back
pain and the endometriosis, I.
I, a lot of it came down becauseI was, the stress stuff that I
never dealt with.
I was not making progesterone,which made me estrogen dominant,
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which fed the endometriosis,which then exacerbated a lot of
my back and leg symptoms.
So it's like I could, if I hadactually listened to myself five
years ago when I said I'm gonnastart meditating and dealing
with my stress.
Then I could have helped myself,but I didn't.
So ladies, just like Casey says,listen to your body whisper
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before it screams at you.
Yeah.
And it's so easy to say that,but really to be intentional and
like set out a daily planbecause.
Our world sped up after Covid.
You know, it was like, yeah.
Things kind of, people kind ofshifted their minds and I think
people are turning more towardslike natural medicine, looking
at chiropractors different,looking at everybody a little
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bit differently.
But then it also, like we justshifted into like fast pace
again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, okay, we'regoing.
And it's so hard when you'resomeone who's gone to stop and
recognize like.
I'm doing too much.
Mm-hmm.
And even like, I do a meditationevery night.
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I know.
And just because I'm doing afive minute meditation at night,
that doesn't mean that I'm stillgiving my body enough.
I need to stop during the dayand meditate more, or just sit
in, sit silence.
I'm working on that one.
Yeah.
So good.
That's what it takes is beingaware of it and doing what you
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can.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how are you normalizing this?
Because when they first told me,I mean, I joked around with
about frozen shoulder, before itactually happened.
I was like joking at the gym.
I was like, I can't, I had abarbell over my head and I was
like, I can't keep my shoulderdown.
And my coach was like,everybody's laughing.
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They're like, put your arm down.
And I was like, no.
Like I can't get it.
Like, do you see how myshoulder's like sticking up?
Oh my gosh.
And so I actually, So it waslike a joke, like, oh, Casey's
arms are stuck in the air.
And I mean, I was able to moveit down, but I was like trying
to show him like, look, this oneup, one shoulder's going up and
one won't go down.
And so, yeah, and then all of asudden it just like happened.
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And it didn't even happen.
Like, I think it was probablylike a month before that, so I
wasn't paying attention, Iwasn't listening.
And then now I'm like, okay,well what do I do now?
And when they said.
Oh, well, you're inperimenopause.
I'm like, what?
Wait, what?
Yeah.
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And I'm like, well, what do I doabout it?
And they're like, oh, it'll,well, frozen shoulder will go
away.
And like, do you have nightsweats?
They're like, you're kind ofyoung.
And I was like, no.
And they're like, yeah, well Idon't, like no one had any
advice for me.
Oh my gosh.
I was just like, they're like,frozen shoulder will go away.
I am like.
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Okay, but what's next?
Like what about the hormones?
Yeah.
What about everything elsethat's connect to this?
Like how do we get other peoplefrom having issues like frozen
shoulder?
That's, I mean, I had neverheard of anybody having frozen
shoulder.
Yeah.
And then all of a suddeneverybody's like, oh yeah, I had
that when I turned 40.
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They call it like the 40shoulder.
And I was like, what?
I'm like is happening and noone's talking about it.
Yes.
Yeah, it's not just a mechanicalissue.
It's crazy'cause I am seeing ita lot in a lot of my female
patients starting intoperimenopause.
Because it has to do withhormones as well as being a
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mechanical issue.
So that's why I like to address.
Both sides of it.
As a chiropractor, you know, Ilove to get in there and do my
stuff with the adjustments andmobilize the shoulder, adjust
the neck and the ribs, and makesure everything's moving
properly.
And then I just added in.
A new therapy this past yearactually for my back.
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I was looking up what othertherapies can I do to prevent
surgery?
And I found the focusedshockwave device, which has been
amazing and is great forshoulder stuff.
So, um, this sends sound wavesvery deep into the tissue, so it
gets much deeper than I can getwith my hands and.
Those sound waves actuallystimulate your own growth
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factors and cytokines and stemcells to come to the area to
regenerate the tissue, as wellas helping with the
inflammation.
We've had amazing results withthis, so I'm super excited to
have that in the office.
Then I also have an.
Nurse practitioner who helps mewith regenerative medicine so
she can do, like a PRPinjection.
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That's where we take blood,draw, we centrifuge your
platelets, and then inject thoseplatelets back into the injured
area.
So that's been helpful forfrozen shoulder or bursitis in
the shoulder.
And then I most recently gotcertified in dry needling, which
is where I use an acupunctureneedle and I put it into the
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tissue that's causing theproblem and move it around a
little bit.
It sounds kind of crazy, but Iused to hate needles.
I was terrified, but now it'slike I.
I love to do dry needlingbecause I've been doing it on my
leg.
The one that, stopped workingfor me and it's been so
beneficial.
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I used to get severe, calfcramps at night, only in the leg
that lost strength andsensation, and after doing the
dry needling in there, it's.
Stopped and I was like, this isamazing.
So the dry needling is also agreat option.
So there's lots of things that Ican do, kind of when we wanna
look at the structure part, butif we're not addressing the
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hormone part, we're not treatingthe whole picture.
So a lot of times that part ismissed.
And.
People don't realize that whenwe have these huge fluctuations
in hormones duringperimenopause, that creates
changes in our collagen.
And that creates more, um,there's less elasticity in the
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tendons, so there's morerubbing.
And when we have more rubbingand normal movements that you
should be able to do.
Like if you're reaching forthings or you're playing with
your kids or working out, Godforbid we wanna work out.
But.
A lot of those repetitivemovements just create friction
because of the ligaments notbeing as supple as they should
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be because we're having thosechanges in the hormones.
So addressing that and lookingat your progesterone and
estrogen and seeing kind of whatlevels, yes, they're gonna be
changing through perimenopause,but we can get a good idea at
what they're doing, how you'redetoxing your hormones, kind of
the pathways that they're going.
And usually when we get into ourearly forties.
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Starting with some progesteronecan be so helpful, as we kind of
work our way towards themenopause side of things.
Oh, that's so much and so good.
And I really love that youconnect the whole body.
Yeah.
Especially, like even in Kathy'sworld, we talk about coming home
to ourself and like being inalignment and it's truly your
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body like.
Everything being in alignment,your bones, your joints, like
everything has to be inalignment for your body to
physically work.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, there's like twosides when you say like, come
home to yourself and be inalignment.
It's like yeah, you wanna be inalignment with everything all
around.
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Yeah.
And we wanna look at all thehormones.
So that's even the adrenals,because that cortisol creates
more inflammation.
So we wanna look at what thatcortisol curve is doing
throughout the day, and that'swhen we test your cortisol four
times throughout the day.
So we can see it should behigher in the morning and lower
at night.
So sometimes people, their curveis all outta whack because of
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their stress response, withlife.
And then those thoughts that wetell ourselves.
But that's gonna downstreamaffect your thyroid, which can
also lead to frozen shoulder.
There's correlation with that,and then your sex hormones too.
It's so, it all starts with kindof that whole stress response.
Uh, it's so crazy.
I know it's such goodinformation, but it's just
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something that we, I don't thinkwe learn about.
Mm-hmm.
When you're 40, people don'ttalk about it.
I know.
It's like, oh, that'll happenwhen I'm like 60.
Those things will happen later,you know?
Yeah.
And now I'm like, okay, wellthey're happening.
And yeah, like this isn't funand it's stopping my life, so
what do I do now?
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I know.
Yeah.
There now is the time to addressthese things because I, my
office manager, she's been goingthrough a really hard
perimenopause and it's been along time and, um, I, I just
came and we've been trying towork on things the best we can,
but yeah, her stress responseand her cortisol is way outta
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whack.
So it's like going back to thefoundation and.
Again, like that's why I lovethe Kathy stuff because a lot of
it is changing your thoughts andthe codependency that I realized
I had with, family and friends,wanting the best for everyone
and just taking on all of theirstress and their life stuff that
was not mine to carry.
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So I'm working on that daily,putting that stuff down.
But it is, it's a work inprogress and you have to
constantly.
Be added and willing and open tochange and try new things.
'cause it, it takes time tofigure it all out.
That's the words right there.
It takes time.
I, I looked at my doctor and Iwas like, what's the instant
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here?
And he looked at me and he said.
What's has there, have thereever been a fast cure with
anything in your life?
And I, and I just startedlaughing and I was like, okay,
you got me there.
I shouldn't have asked thatquestion.
You're right.
I know.
No, the answer is no.
I'm, this is a life lesson.
And I was like, but I'm going tospeak it into my podcast because
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a, um, you know, I talk aboutwhat sparks people to do things
and you've been through your ownjourney.
Yeah.
Of pain.
And I think, not that I everwish pain on anybody, but I
think that once you've beenthrough something, you are so
much more compassionate.
Yes.
'cause you understand the levelof pain.
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How are you now?
Can I ask that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I am so much better now.
I started doing yoga last yearand it's a very slow, like,
methodical restorative yoga, andI felt like it was.
Physical therapy for my brainand stress and body, and I had
tremendous improvement just inthe first month of starting
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that.
So it is a multi approach.
And I know even with mypatients, like some of them say,
well, I don't wanna do too manythings because then I won't know
what one thing fixed theproblem.
But you have to do multiplethings because there's so many
different causes, especially aswe get older.
Like there's many differentcauses to the problem.
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Like even with my back injury,it wasn't just one thing that
caused it because everyone'slike, if I knew what caused it,
I would never do that one thingagain.
But it was multiple things like,and it started with my, me as a
child, how my spine was shaped.
I actually didn't crawl.
I scooted everywhere.
I just scooted.
I never crawled.
Wow.
And crawling is so critical forthe development of your spinal
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curves and.
If you can imagine what yourspine would look like if you
just scooted along, it was, um,a little messed up.
So when I did imaging back whenI was in chiropractic school, I
was like, I look like I have a60-year-old spine and I was in
my twenties.
So that definitely added to theproblem.
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But then there was, you know, somany other issues and hormones
and stress and.
I did CrossFit as well, and Iloved it at the time.
I don't regret it, but with theshape of my spine, I don't know
if I should have done some ofthe things, but it's awesome to
feel strong, like I love to feelstrong too, so I just had to
modify how I'm working out nowand still lift some weights, but
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do things a little differently.
Yeah.
Oh, that's funny that you saidyoga.
I went to yoga.
I started yoga before thishappened.
I was like, you know, I'm gonnatake one day off a week and go
to yoga because I'm notflexible.
Yes.
I've never been flexible.
Even as a figure skater, Iwasn't flexible.
And they were like, touch yourtoes.
And I was like, I can't touch mytoes like I've never been able
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to.
And they're like, if you stretchevery day, I'm like, I'm
stretching every day and I stillcan't touch my toes.
So, I went to yoga and let'stalk about mind game.
Like, mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Totally.
I'm like, Ooh.
I go through all the thoughtsand Yeah.
Now this is like making mereally stop and focus and be
intentional and Yes, it was,it's, it's hard.
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Yeah.
Especially for us, like type Ago, go, go.
You know, we did CrossFit, welove that like ghost stuff.
So to stop and slowly move anddo yoga, it is hard to mentally
do that.
Yeah.
I was like, people do this forfun.
I had a look around the firsttime when they were doing a pose
(27:35):
and I was like, people areenjoying this and they can
breathe while they're doingthis.
Like, oh my gosh.
I was like, am I the only one inhere that, that feels this way?
And I know, um, yeah.
I, it is one thing I'm gonna getback to on my shoulder.
Yeah.
Feels I'm gonna get back intoyoga because I do think that.
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There's something intentionalabout slowing everything down
your mind.
Yeah.
Your thoughts.
So powerful.
I agree.
Aging our thoughts.
Yes.
Um, I, I mean, I'm in Kansas.
I wish I was, I could come.
Just fly and see you.
Oh, I know.
Um, I'm trying to think if Iactually, I am part of a group
(28:17):
on Facebook and I could see ifanybody, I do feel like the
shockwave would be reallyhelpful for you.
Yeah.
So let me reach out and see ifthere's anybody that I know in
your area that has one.
Yeah, I would be totally open tothat.
I've done dry needling.
It's so funny because people arelike, you do dry needling, you
can needle, and I'm like.
(28:37):
It is like the weirdest pain,but like the most relieving
pain.
Yes.
It's good stuff.
It's, yeah, it is weird to thinkthat you're.
Putting a needle and moving itaround in there, but it changes
also your brain connection tothat muscle to let go, because
if you're only just working onthat area, your brain still is
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not telling that muscle to letgo.
So it helps with the neurologyas well at that brain connection
to the muscle.
So it's pretty cool.
That is, yeah.
So interesting.
Yeah.
Um, do you, what do you tellpeople about their diet?
Do you address that at all, or,oh, yeah.
That's one I am very passionateabout.
I always read my patients andwhat they're open to, um, but go
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doing a more anti-inflammatorydiet.
It's hard for me if somebody isa vegan, because I feel like.
A vegan diet is a little moreinflammatory, but people are
vegans for reasons.
You know, if they, if they're avegan because they think that's
a healthy diet, I don't feelthat way.
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So I encourage my patients,unless it's something they're
completely against to eat goodquality, animal protein because
that's where we get the proteinsthat we need to balance our
hormones and to restore ourmuscles and help with things
like frozen shoulder or backinjuries.
Um, and I used to try to be lowcarb, but to be honest, the more
(30:08):
I learn.
Women do need some good healthycarbohydrates.
I personally did not do well ona ketogenic diet.
So I do encourage, you know,good quality complex
carbohydrates, as well as theproteins and healthy fats are so
important again, in making yourhormones too.
So, it is something that youintentionally have to focus on
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every day.
'cause we just live in thisworld of processed food like
crazy.
Yeah.
So if you can eat whole Foods,you are winning because it's
hard to get away from theseprocessed foods.
And that's what we do need tostay away from.
Yeah.
And the fast paced world, that'swhat we do is just Yes.
Have the, the easy stuff.
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Um, I know I should say myboyfriend meal preps for me.
Nice.
And so, um, we were doingdifferent meal prepping and so
I, I kind of switched to, um,like red meats.
Mm-hmm.
And so I was like, I hope thisis the right thing to do, like
Yeah.
With meat.
So that's what I've been trying,I was like, it's not gonna hurt
(31:12):
either it's gonna work or it'snot gonna work, but yeah.
It's easy because I go so much,I would, just grab whatever I
could.
Mm-hmm.
Or I just wouldn't eat becauseI'm like, I don't want to eat
junk.
Mm.
Yeah.
And so a lot of times I'd belike, oh, well I didn't get in
all my protein, all my, youknow, if you do macros, I
didn't, I did not hit that todaybecause I was on the go.
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So if I intentionally set myselfup for the week, then usually I
do better than grabbing things.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's so important to planit out because we're seeing now
two people with hypoglycemia.
So if you don't eat it is reallygoing to impact things.
So making sure you get up andyou get that good breakfast, the
protein, the healthy fats to setyourself up for the day is just
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critical.
Yeah, that's, thank you.
Yeah.
I.
I'm just fascinated byeverything you do and that you
work on the whole body.
Mm-hmm.
I don't think enough people talkabout it.
Thank you.
I think that there's so much, Ifeel like you could offer a
hundred courses not to justlike, I'm like, Hey, let me add
(32:18):
a little more stress to yourplate of like, can you just
offer some courses to womenbecause we need to make this
more normalized that we can talkabout it.
It's okay to talk about and.
There's people that you can seefor these things?
Yes, because I had no idea what,like where do you start?
(32:39):
Where do you go?
And I still ask my friends, Iwas like, where would you go?
And they were like.
I don't know.
I never thought that when I was40 I would have to think about
these things.
Mm-hmm.
I know.
Yeah, it's tough.
Definitely finding a functionalmedicine practitioner so they
can take a deeper dive and setyou up for, I'm so big into
prevention and making your lifeeasier in, in the future.
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Because when people don't dothings like myself, my back then
things are 10 times worse.
If we can at least help thattransition into menopause
because it's a long time,ladies, a long time that we go
through this.
Yeah.
Thanks for just being real andsharing about it.
I know this is your daily work,but it's not real in the world.
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Like my goal is to let everybodyknow like there are people out
there.
Yes, and it's okay to talk aboutit, and it's okay to start
thinking about it now insteadof, Hey, even if you're in your
thirties, you should probablystart thinking about these
things.
Absolutely.
Yeah., If we all, I mean,obviously diet for every age
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because there's so much thrownout in the world of.
Just bad information.
Yeah, yeah.
And some of the patients I'mworking with right now, they're
in their teens and they'rehaving hormone issues and it's
like, oh my gosh.
But luckily, we're addressing itnow because it's gonna help them
throughout their whole life.
So even if you're in your teens,it's not too early to address it
(34:10):
now because it's gonna help youso much in the future.
Yeah.
Uh, thank you for saying thatand just, yeah, I think there's
so much, even as a teen, I can'tman those, I don't wanna go back
to those years.
Those were weird word years.
And then when you think about itand it's like, oh, okay, I got
through those years and now I'mgoing into these years.
(34:32):
I know.
Uh, we should just make it allnormalized and Okay to talk
about it all.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Like I had no idea too with howmany tampons is normal to go
through during a cycle.
Like, we need to be talkingabout these things.
I was like, oh my gosh.
I was like three times thatamount.
That was not normal.
Like what's happening?
(34:52):
That's the thing.
And unless you're like in afamily that talks about it or
your friends, like at that age,we didn't talk about it in my
family.
Like, yeah, no, neither did I,so, and it wasn't like a
shameful thing.
It was just like something youdidn't talk about, like, yeah.
Yeah.
So Yeah, I know, I think thatthe kids nowadays, um, are
becoming more open about it.
(35:13):
Well, they're starting itearlier.
Yeah.
Everything is changing earlier,and I think that they have to
become more open and I hope thatwe can make this world where.
Women can talk about thesethings and they can talk about
these things.
If you have children, talk aboutyour kids or tell them about it
and let it be normalized.
That especially, you know,there's things, all the foods,
(35:35):
everything like that, thosethings that we can control,
let's control those to make, um,absolutely life better.
Yes, definitely.
Do you wanna talk about anythingelse?
You, I, you're just, so, let'ssee.
So full of knowledge.
So full of knowledge.
Let me get my words out.
I mean, I would love to, I thinkit is one of my goals to have a
(35:56):
course, an online course.
I'm gonna add more educationalstuff to my functional medicine
program where we're dealing withthe stress response, um, and
resetting that cortisol rhythmand.
Addressing root cause.
But I do feel like a lot of theeducational stuff is so
important.
Um, so yeah, that, that's one ofmy things I'm gonna be working
(36:17):
on.
I was like, not to throw morestress at you, but pile it on.
And then my own podcast, I'mstarting too.
That is supposed to be launchingon June 5th, now that I put that
out there into the world.
That is happening.
It is happening, yes.
Yeah.
So, um, whatcha are gonna talkabout on your podcast?
(36:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna be talking aboutall this stuff.
So me and my very good friendfrom chiropractic school, she
also has gone through thefunctional medicine program with
me, and we just called eachother on the phone talking about
health stuff all the time, andwe're like, you know what?
We need a podcast to talk aboutall this stuff.
We're gonna.
Let's talk about the healthstuff, but then we're talking
about, she actually went throughquite a bit of grief, uh, with
(37:03):
her husband passing while shewas pregnant with their son.
So she's gonna be bringing thatinto the mix.
'cause that's a big passion ofhers is dealing with grief.
And then I'm gonna be adding insome of the stuff of the stress
response and the codependencyand the people pleasing and how
that affects your health andyour life.
And so we're gonna be talkingabout everything.
(37:24):
You're getting into all thefills.
Yes.
Oh yes.
Yeah.
I thank her for normalizing thatand talking about it.
'cause those are just a ton offeelings right there.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And that's something else that Ithink that we don't talk about
is our feelings enough.
Mm-hmm.
I totally agree.
(37:45):
So I'm excited and it's allconnected, even gut problems,
everything.
Our whole body is, it's real.
And so is your, do you have atrailer out um, we should have a
trailer out probably in the nexttwo weeks.
Okay.
Yes.
Working on that.
So I will drop that in the.
(38:06):
Things.
I'm excited to listen for myselfbecause here I am, like gimme
all the knowledge, like, I'mjust like, thank you.
We're podcast junkies over here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I will share all yourinformation where people can
find you.
Oh, thank you.
If you could leave people withsome advice, what do you wanna
leave people with?
Yeah, if they like couple thingstoday.
One thing, definitely educatingyourself because it's
(38:30):
unfortunate that doctors.
I don't really know everythingthey should know to help you.
I just have a lot of my patientsthat want to run a lot of the
blood work through theirinsurance and they talk to their
doctor and I think their doctordoesn't know, so they brush them
off, which is not okay.
'cause guys, you trust your gut.
(38:51):
You are on the right path.
You know what you need.
And if your doctor can't helpyou, then find another doctor.
You have to be strong.
An advocate for yourself becauseit is important to get the
answers that you deserve.
Like if you feel like crap andyour doctor just does the basic
blood panels and says you'renormal, but you still feel like
crap, keep searching.
(39:12):
You are correct.
You need to find the answer andfind a different doctor if the
one you have is not gonna workwith you.
Oh, that's so good.
maybe I should have said this atthe beginning.
As far as functional medicinedoctor, what is the best way you
would describe that so peoplecan, if they're looking that up
and they're thinking, yeah.
(39:33):
Doctor versus functionalmedicine, doctor I.
I would say we are like a rootcause, like what's causing your
symptoms.
We don't just treat yoursymptoms like if you have a
headache, we're not like, takean Advil or you know, we wanna
find out why you have thatheadache or why you have high
blood pressure.
And I'm such a like, well why?
(39:54):
Like, you know, that kid inschool?
Like why, why is that?
And it's fun to be a healthdetective and find out why, and
then address that, which is,it's such a better way to do
medicine because you'readdressing your current
symptoms, but then you're alsopreventing so much future crap
(40:14):
from happening because you'veaddressed the cause now.
So if your body has a symptom,it's a loud sign that you need
to dig deep and find out why youhave that symptom.
Thank you for saying all that.
You're so full of knowledge.
I could talk to you all day andjust be like, just give it to
me, gimme more because there'sso much with, you know, I faced
(40:35):
gut issues.
I faced it all, and I wish at anearlier age people would've been
like.
You can, like, it's allconnected.
You know, when I was a baby, Ihad spinal meningitis.
Yeah.
And if I tell a medical doctorthat they look at me and they're
like, oh, you're how old.
And you had it when you were ababy.
You had spinal meningitis whenyou baby.
That has nothing to do withanything now.
(40:56):
And Oh my gosh.
And I'm just like, really?
Like your body's connected andit remembers like, I don't
remember exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I mean, the thingsthat I've been through, you
know, the different things andno one wants to talk about any
of that, so I'm so grateful thatyou are normalizing all of this
and hormones as well.
Yes, it's so fun and.
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I feel like functional medicineis the medicine of the future.
It's what lots of patients want,but they don't realize it's
something that exists that's outthere.
Unfortunately.
I'm so sorry guys.
Your insurance does not coverfunctional medicine.
But it allows us to treat youlike we are able to spend as
much time as we need.
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We're not rushed.
We're able to order what testsyou actually need.
It's not what the insurancetells us we can do.
And it's frustrating to takeinsurance, which I do for
chiropractic, and they try tocontrol what I do for the
patient.
And it's like you, you're nothere, you're not treating the
patient.
So.
It's honestly so freeing to nottake insurance with the
(42:01):
functional medicine because Ican just look at you and that's
the only person I care about.
And that's what we're gonna dois to help you.
So, um, find a functionalmedicine doctor.
I really think that you guyswill not, not regret it.
It's gonna be what you need.
Thank you for sharing that.
It's.
I mean, if you guys saw her facewhen she talks about this, she
(42:24):
just lights up and she has thisbig, beautiful smile.
And so I can only imagine beingyour patient and really just
sitting down with you andfeeling heard and seen.
And I think those things ofgetting to like just lay it all
out, just somebody is one of themost important things.
Yes.
I agree.
Yeah.
(42:44):
I wanna thank you.
Do you wanna tell everybodywhere they can find you?
Yes.
So I have a website, which is drter.com.
That's D-R-A-U-C-H-T-E r.com.
And then I have two socialmedias, which is Health in
Motion Chiropractic, and thenalso Health in Motion Wellness,
which is the functional medicineside.
(43:06):
I will leave those in the shownotes so you guys don't have to
remember that.
I do have another questionthough.
Do you treat Yeah.
Just in person, or do you treatover.
Do you do Zoom calls?
Yeah, I do do Zoom calls.
Um, I am a little restricted, soif you live in Florida we can do
so much more.
(43:27):
But I can do consultations andstuff like that if you live in a
different state.
Or find somebody in my networkthat could definitely help you,
if you are in a different state.
Uh, I appreciate all that.
Yes, I wish I was in Floridaright now.
Well, thanks for letting melike, just pick your brain and
just being so honest and makingeverything so real.
(43:50):
Aw, thanks for having me.
Thank you.
It's an honor to have you onhere and it's, the best thing
about podcasting is just beingable to talk to someone and
connect that you get to see whatlights him up and you're so
passionate about what you do.
Oh, thank you.
And, and you're helping so many.
So I can't thank you enough forcoming on.
(44:11):
Thank you so much.
I will leave everything in theshow notes so you guys can go
find her.
I hope you enjoyed this episodeand go follow her.
And don't forget, on June 5th,her podcast is coming out.
Yay.
So you can go take a listen tothat as well.
Yes, coming.
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Hey friends.
Welcome to the Enter Sparkpodcast.
I'm your host, Casey Caton.
If you're looking to hearstories of transformation and
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My guest and I will be sharingthose sparking moments that has
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I'm so excited for you to heareach unique story.
(00:24):
So sit back, relax, and let'sget started.
Hey friend.
Welcome back to the Enter Sparkpodcast.
I'm your host, Casey Taton.
Today I have a very specialguest with me.
(00:45):
I promise you guys, I wouldbring someone on to talk about
frozen shoulder and all the funthings I'm going through.
And I have Dr.
Jeanette Ter.
Yes, she is a chiropractor and afunctional medicine
practitioner.
Welcome.
Thank you so much for having me.
(01:06):
This is so fun.
Fun.
Thanks for coming.
Just a little backstory for myguest listening.
Um, we are both in our mentorKathy Heller's world, and that
is how I'm, I met her if youdon't mind, will you share a
little bit about yourself?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So I was actually listening toone of your podcasts on, if you
(01:30):
don't listen to your body whenit whispers, you're gonna have
to listen to it when it screams.
And that is actually a big partof my life.
I am a type A people pleaser,perfectionist.
Go, go, go.
And that's how I lived my wholelife, um, which did not serve me
well.
So when I opened my ownpractice, it was just a lot of
(01:54):
stress.
I kind of thought about worstcase scenario all the time, you
know, like.
My mind, just like, you're gonnafail and you'll be living on the
streets.
So that added a lot to mystress.
And, I had pretty bad back painfor about a year and I ignored
it.
I just kept pushing, kept going,addicted to the cortisol and my
(02:18):
body spoke to me very loudlywhere I woke up one morning with
severe.
Crazy pain.
Like I have never had pain likethis.
Um, and it was from a discextrusion in my back that was
pressing on my sciatic nerve andit was the worst pain I've ever
experienced.
I told my husband I was dyingmultiple times'cause that's what
(02:40):
it felt like.
I felt like somebody was justripping my sciatic nerve out of
my leg.
And so from that, I actually hadloss of strength and sensation
in my leg.
So I walked with a limp for fourmonths.
And I still didn't slow down.
Like even then my body was liketry, physically trying to slow
me down and I would not listen.
(03:02):
But thinking back now, thestress that injury had added to
my life in terms of again,thinking like, oh my gosh, I'm
not gonna be able to do my job.
Um, and so it's crazy'cause sixmonths after that.
Initial injury, I had a seconddisc extrusion with the same
(03:24):
severe leg pain, and this timeit was in the front of my leg,
so I had foot drop the firsttime.
I couldn't go up onto my tippytoe.
So I then again walked withanother limp, um, with my foot
dropping.
And these were all things thatas a chiropractor, we would
think of as kind of a red flag,where we would send you out to a
neurosurgeon.
(03:44):
Yep.
I was terrified of surgery.
I, um, had spent some time sinceI couldn't do many activities
watching this crazy show onNetflix called, uh, Dr.
Death, and it was about aneurosurgeon who killed multiple
patients doing surgery.
So I was like, I'm not gettingsurgery.
(04:04):
I'm gonna figure this out on myown.
So.
It's interesting going throughall of this.
'cause now I can completelyrelate to a lot of my patients
that have had severe back pain,but also going through it
myself, I can see how there'smultiple other issues that you
can develop from a severephysical injury, and that is the
(04:29):
stress response because it.
Really creates high cortisol forsuch a long period of time that
then depletes your cortisol.
So then I.
Felt it.
Um, I felt like I had nothingleft inside me to give my
stress.
Resilience was gone.
(04:49):
People would complain aboutstuff and I just couldn't even
take any stress.
Like TV shows.
I was like, I need happy stuffall the time.
I can't take anything stressful.
So, um, from that I actuallystarted having severe, pelvic
pain too.
So.
Every time.
It was interesting'cause everymonth of my cycle, the back and
(05:12):
the leg pain got worse.
So I knew that there was some,correlation with hormones and
endometriosis into the wholeback injury.
It was such a, a mess ofeverything.
But that dug me deeper into thehormone path.
And has led me where I am nowbecause I love to help women
with hormone issues and as wellas the body and the stress
(05:35):
response because it's just allso connected as you already
know.
Yeah.
So were you doing all this?
Were you still working, runningyour own business?
Like that's a lot.
Yes.
Let's just like recognize that.
Oh my gosh.
It, it was.
I, yeah, I don't know.
I guess it would've been nice togive myself time to slow down
(05:57):
and stop, but uh, my brainwouldn't let me do that.
Totally off topic, but were youan athlete?
I.
Are you a um, I played tennis inundergrad and did cross country
until I got chin splints.
And then I played tennis incollege too.
But yeah, those were my sports.
(06:18):
The reason I was asking isbecause it seems like, so many
people that play sports, I was asoccer player and I was a figure
artistic figure skater likegrowing up.
Oh, wow.
And it's interesting that Ithink there's like some
competitiveness in this.
Yes, I agree.
Yeah.
And it doesn't ever let go.
Like I still play coed soccerand I do CrossFit now as an
adult and Oh wow.
(06:40):
I try to give myself a break,but I am like addicted to the
movement, yes, you know, workingout and moving my body.
I agree, and I agree with theworking out too because I feel
like when I work out, I feel asense of accomplishment.
Like I've, I feel like, oh, Idid my task for the day, so that
(07:02):
whole year that I couldn't workout because of my back injury.
It, it, well, like, make, mademe depressed.
I, I felt.
Like a different person and Icould feel it inside my body.
So I totally get the working outand physical activity and how
important it is.
It's so funny that you said thatabout surgery too.
Because I'm a former operatingsurgical technician, I.
(07:25):
Oh wow.
Yeah.
And so I used to work in theoperating room.
I like, that was my dreamgrowing up is my family was
medical filled and I startedworking at doctor's office, went
through all those schools, youknow, didn't know what I wanted
to do.
Ended up doing that and that'swhen I got sick, um, with my
first condition myself.
Oh my gosh.
I got just completely stopped.
Wow.
(07:46):
Yeah, that's been.
Years now, I've had bigsurgeries.
I still have a porta cath and ohmy gosh.
Um, but now I'm, I'm able to eatand drink again and.
It forced stopped me.
Of course, I wasn't able to eat,drink, and do all things, and so
I had to travel for Oh, wow.
A diagnosis, because it waslike, you're crazy.
(08:08):
You know?
Yeah.
I'm not crazy.
How does your gut stop That?
Doesn't work like that.
Yeah.
No, but then, so now I've, I'vegotten better and, I feel like
they killed my immune system andI'm, and I still have a team of
doctors, so I'm not anti-Ddoctor.
I think there's, yeah, there'sreasons you still need to see
doctors and reasons still.
You still need to see surgeons,but I also, it definitely
(08:29):
changed the way I look at lifeand um, how we can things more
naturally.
And the things that aren'ttalked about.
Yeah.
And I think, you, you mentionedthose and I was like, yes.
Like bring it on.
I'm so excited.
So first of all, what broughtyou into this career path?
I.
(08:49):
Oh gosh.
I always loved health.
And I didn't know which route togo in undergrad, so I was going
the biology route.
And then since I played tenniscompetitively in college, I had
a lot of knee issues.
So I saw a chiropractor duringthat time and he was just.
Such a great influence and hewrote my letter to get into
(09:10):
school for me.
And I am very glad I did go thispath because there's so many
avenues and specialties that youcan do with chiropractic.
I do feel like I.
My love definitely is functionalmedicine and hormones and
women's health.
So I'm glad that I found thispath too because it allows me to
(09:32):
take it in both directions anddeal with the body, physically
and inside and out and allaspects of it.
Yeah, that's amazing.
And.
It's not, nothing bad about likewestern medicine, but they're
only taught one thing.
Yeah.
And so like, then they send youto specialist after specialist
and it's kind of a guessing gameof you chasing doctor after
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doctor.
And it feels like no one evercan communicate with each other.
And, and so like, if you don'tknow medical terms, you're
stuck, like trying to figure itout.
I mean, I'm thankful that Ilearned a lot of medical.
Stuff so I could tell them andexplain from one doctor to
another, but yeah.
Um, yeah, I don't, I don't knowhow people do it if they don't
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have experience.
I know every, I feel likeeveryone needs an advocate, like
a health advocate because youcan just get lost in the medical
system and you don't get thecare that you need or deserve
because you might not havesomebody that can be there to
support you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what really sparked you tokind of like dig more?
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Was it your injuries or wasthere something else that was
like, I'm gonna pivot this way.
Into the function.
Yeah, I think it was, um, I hadalways really, you know, tons of
podcasts just listening to allthose on functional medicine and
just loved that stuff.
I went through the wholeInstitute for Functional
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Medicine courses.
This was like 10 years ago, butI was practicing as an
associate, so I couldn'timplement it.
Into practice then, which waskind of sad because I feel like
I would've retained more of theinformation if I could have
implemented it right away.
So then when I opened my ownpractice, I was like, I am gonna
be adding this into my practice.
So then I did anotherrecertification, Through
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functional medicine and justalways doing webinars and a
podcast junkie.
And sometimes I need to likestop with the learning stuff.
I do love to learn, butsometimes I'm like, man, I need
to listen to some music and likede-stress and not just always
learn to listen to learningthings all the time, but I need,
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I need to work on my balance oflife here.
But yeah, I could see it.
In myself every year, I wouldsay to myself, I'm gonna start
meditating this year.
That's my goal for the year, andI just ignored it every year.
I would ignore all the stressstuff, all the self-care stuff,
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until my body stopped me andforced me to actually look at
all of that.
That's so good.
I hate that we have to gothrough something and that we're
like forced to stop, but that's,the same with me.
I love to learn.
Yeah.
I'm always listening to apodcast.
People are like, don't youlisten to the radio?
Don't you do that?
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And I'm like, I, I just like tolearn.
I just wanna know it all.
Yeah.
Like, I just, you know, I justkeep going and so it's just so
much fun.
Yeah.
Um, so tell.
What I wanna talk about frozenshoulder, but is there anything
else you wanna talk about?
Like leading up to, like digginginto hormones?
Digging into, because it issomething that people, I don't
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know how we make it real thatI'm 41 and how do we make it
okay for people to talk abouthormones and all the things that
we're gonna face without beingembarrassed or like, it's just,
I feel like it's not talkedabout enough.
It's definitely not, I thinkluckily now it's being talked
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about a little bit more.
And I do think a lot of thisstress stuff, the stress
response are, you know, type Apersonalities that's causing us
to go into perimenopauseearlier.
I know that I started intoperimenopause in my late.
Thirties, which is insane.
Like when I used to think aboutmenopause stuff, I'd be like,
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oh, I'd I'd be like 60 yearsold.
No.
Yeah.
Like it's crazy to think howlong you're in a perimenopause
and some of these symptoms thatwe have, like you're like, I'm
gonna have this for 15 years.
That's insane.
Like that's why it's soimportant to like do something
about it now and help yourselfthrough these 15 year transition
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period.
Because you could be miserableand it's not, not okay.
Not okay to live that way.
Because when I started lookingat my connection with my back
pain and the endometriosis, I.
I, a lot of it came down becauseI was, the stress stuff that I
never dealt with.
I was not making progesterone,which made me estrogen dominant,
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which fed the endometriosis,which then exacerbated a lot of
my back and leg symptoms.
So it's like I could, if I hadactually listened to myself five
years ago when I said I'm gonnastart meditating and dealing
with my stress.
Then I could have helped myself,but I didn't.
So ladies, just like Casey says,listen to your body whisper
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before it screams at you.
Yeah.
And it's so easy to say that,but really to be intentional and
like set out a daily planbecause.
Our world sped up after Covid.
You know, it was like, yeah.
Things kind of, people kind ofshifted their minds and I think
people are turning more towardslike natural medicine, looking
at chiropractors different,looking at everybody a little
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bit differently.
But then it also, like we justshifted into like fast pace
again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, okay, we'regoing.
And it's so hard when you'resomeone who's gone to stop and
recognize like.
I'm doing too much.
Mm-hmm.
And even like, I do a meditationevery night.
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I know.
And just because I'm doing afive minute meditation at night,
that doesn't mean that I'm stillgiving my body enough.
I need to stop during the dayand meditate more, or just sit
in, sit silence.
I'm working on that one.
Yeah.
So good.
That's what it takes is beingaware of it and doing what you
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can.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how are you normalizing this?
Because when they first told me,I mean, I joked around with
about frozen shoulder, before itactually happened.
I was like joking at the gym.
I was like, I can't, I had abarbell over my head and I was
like, I can't keep my shoulderdown.
And my coach was like,everybody's laughing.
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They're like, put your arm down.
And I was like, no.
Like I can't get it.
Like, do you see how myshoulder's like sticking up?
Oh my gosh.
And so I actually, So it waslike a joke, like, oh, Casey's
arms are stuck in the air.
And I mean, I was able to moveit down, but I was like trying
to show him like, look, this oneup, one shoulder's going up and
one won't go down.
And so, yeah, and then all of asudden it just like happened.
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And it didn't even happen.
Like, I think it was probablylike a month before that, so I
wasn't paying attention, Iwasn't listening.
And then now I'm like, okay,well what do I do now?
And when they said.
Oh, well, you're inperimenopause.
I'm like, what?
Wait, what?
Yeah.
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And I'm like, well, what do I doabout it?
And they're like, oh, it'll,well, frozen shoulder will go
away.
And like, do you have nightsweats?
They're like, you're kind ofyoung.
And I was like, no.
And they're like, yeah, well Idon't, like no one had any
advice for me.
Oh my gosh.
I was just like, they're like,frozen shoulder will go away.
I am like.
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Okay, but what's next?
Like what about the hormones?
Yeah.
What about everything elsethat's connect to this?
Like how do we get other peoplefrom having issues like frozen
shoulder?
That's, I mean, I had neverheard of anybody having frozen
shoulder.
Yeah.
And then all of a suddeneverybody's like, oh yeah, I had
that when I turned 40.
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They call it like the 40shoulder.
And I was like, what?
I'm like is happening and noone's talking about it.
Yes.
Yeah, it's not just a mechanicalissue.
It's crazy'cause I am seeing ita lot in a lot of my female
patients starting intoperimenopause.
Because it has to do withhormones as well as being a
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mechanical issue.
So that's why I like to address.
Both sides of it.
As a chiropractor, you know, Ilove to get in there and do my
stuff with the adjustments andmobilize the shoulder, adjust
the neck and the ribs, and makesure everything's moving
properly.
And then I just added in.
A new therapy this past yearactually for my back.
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I was looking up what othertherapies can I do to prevent
surgery?
And I found the focusedshockwave device, which has been
amazing and is great forshoulder stuff.
So, um, this sends sound wavesvery deep into the tissue, so it
gets much deeper than I can getwith my hands and.
Those sound waves actuallystimulate your own growth
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factors and cytokines and stemcells to come to the area to
regenerate the tissue, as wellas helping with the
inflammation.
We've had amazing results withthis, so I'm super excited to
have that in the office.
Then I also have an.
Nurse practitioner who helps mewith regenerative medicine so
she can do, like a PRPinjection.
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That's where we take blood,draw, we centrifuge your
platelets, and then inject thoseplatelets back into the injured
area.
So that's been helpful forfrozen shoulder or bursitis in
the shoulder.
And then I most recently gotcertified in dry needling, which
is where I use an acupunctureneedle and I put it into the
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tissue that's causing theproblem and move it around a
little bit.
It sounds kind of crazy, but Iused to hate needles.
I was terrified, but now it'slike I.
I love to do dry needlingbecause I've been doing it on my
leg.
The one that, stopped workingfor me and it's been so
beneficial.
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I used to get severe, calfcramps at night, only in the leg
that lost strength andsensation, and after doing the
dry needling in there, it's.
Stopped and I was like, this isamazing.
So the dry needling is also agreat option.
So there's lots of things that Ican do, kind of when we wanna
look at the structure part, butif we're not addressing the
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hormone part, we're not treatingthe whole picture.
So a lot of times that part ismissed.
And.
People don't realize that whenwe have these huge fluctuations
in hormones duringperimenopause, that creates
changes in our collagen.
And that creates more, um,there's less elasticity in the
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tendons, so there's morerubbing.
And when we have more rubbingand normal movements that you
should be able to do.
Like if you're reaching forthings or you're playing with
your kids or working out, Godforbid we wanna work out.
But.
A lot of those repetitivemovements just create friction
because of the ligaments notbeing as supple as they should
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be because we're having thosechanges in the hormones.
So addressing that and lookingat your progesterone and
estrogen and seeing kind of whatlevels, yes, they're gonna be
changing through perimenopause,but we can get a good idea at
what they're doing, how you'redetoxing your hormones, kind of
the pathways that they're going.
And usually when we get into ourearly forties.
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Starting with some progesteronecan be so helpful, as we kind of
work our way towards themenopause side of things.
Oh, that's so much and so good.
And I really love that youconnect the whole body.
Yeah.
Especially, like even in Kathy'sworld, we talk about coming home
to ourself and like being inalignment and it's truly your
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body like.
Everything being in alignment,your bones, your joints, like
everything has to be inalignment for your body to
physically work.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, there's like twosides when you say like, come
home to yourself and be inalignment.
It's like yeah, you wanna be inalignment with everything all
around.
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Yeah.
And we wanna look at all thehormones.
So that's even the adrenals,because that cortisol creates
more inflammation.
So we wanna look at what thatcortisol curve is doing
throughout the day, and that'swhen we test your cortisol four
times throughout the day.
So we can see it should behigher in the morning and lower
at night.
So sometimes people, their curveis all outta whack because of
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their stress response, withlife.
And then those thoughts that wetell ourselves.
But that's gonna downstreamaffect your thyroid, which can
also lead to frozen shoulder.
There's correlation with that,and then your sex hormones too.
It's so, it all starts with kindof that whole stress response.
Uh, it's so crazy.
I know it's such goodinformation, but it's just
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something that we, I don't thinkwe learn about.
Mm-hmm.
When you're 40, people don'ttalk about it.
I know.
It's like, oh, that'll happenwhen I'm like 60.
Those things will happen later,you know?
Yeah.
And now I'm like, okay, wellthey're happening.
And yeah, like this isn't funand it's stopping my life, so
what do I do now?
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I know.
Yeah.
There now is the time to addressthese things because I, my
office manager, she's been goingthrough a really hard
perimenopause and it's been along time and, um, I, I just
came and we've been trying towork on things the best we can,
but yeah, her stress responseand her cortisol is way outta
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whack.
So it's like going back to thefoundation and.
Again, like that's why I lovethe Kathy stuff because a lot of
it is changing your thoughts andthe codependency that I realized
I had with, family and friends,wanting the best for everyone
and just taking on all of theirstress and their life stuff that
was not mine to carry.
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So I'm working on that daily,putting that stuff down.
But it is, it's a work inprogress and you have to
constantly.
Be added and willing and open tochange and try new things.
'cause it, it takes time tofigure it all out.
That's the words right there.
It takes time.
I, I looked at my doctor and Iwas like, what's the instant
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here?
And he looked at me and he said.
What's has there, have thereever been a fast cure with
anything in your life?
And I, and I just startedlaughing and I was like, okay,
you got me there.
I shouldn't have asked thatquestion.
You're right.
I know.
No, the answer is no.
I'm, this is a life lesson.
And I was like, but I'm going tospeak it into my podcast because
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a, um, you know, I talk aboutwhat sparks people to do things
and you've been through your ownjourney.
Yeah.
Of pain.
And I think, not that I everwish pain on anybody, but I
think that once you've beenthrough something, you are so
much more compassionate.
Yes.
'cause you understand the levelof pain.
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How are you now?
Can I ask that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I am so much better now.
I started doing yoga last yearand it's a very slow, like,
methodical restorative yoga, andI felt like it was.
Physical therapy for my brainand stress and body, and I had
tremendous improvement just inthe first month of starting
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that.
So it is a multi approach.
And I know even with mypatients, like some of them say,
well, I don't wanna do too manythings because then I won't know
what one thing fixed theproblem.
But you have to do multiplethings because there's so many
different causes, especially aswe get older.
Like there's many differentcauses to the problem.
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Like even with my back injury,it wasn't just one thing that
caused it because everyone'slike, if I knew what caused it,
I would never do that one thingagain.
But it was multiple things like,and it started with my, me as a
child, how my spine was shaped.
I actually didn't crawl.
I scooted everywhere.
I just scooted.
I never crawled.
Wow.
And crawling is so critical forthe development of your spinal
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curves and.
If you can imagine what yourspine would look like if you
just scooted along, it was, um,a little messed up.
So when I did imaging back whenI was in chiropractic school, I
was like, I look like I have a60-year-old spine and I was in
my twenties.
So that definitely added to theproblem.
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But then there was, you know, somany other issues and hormones
and stress and.
I did CrossFit as well, and Iloved it at the time.
I don't regret it, but with theshape of my spine, I don't know
if I should have done some ofthe things, but it's awesome to
feel strong, like I love to feelstrong too, so I just had to
modify how I'm working out nowand still lift some weights, but
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do things a little differently.
Yeah.
Oh, that's funny that you saidyoga.
I went to yoga.
I started yoga before thishappened.
I was like, you know, I'm gonnatake one day off a week and go
to yoga because I'm notflexible.
Yes.
I've never been flexible.
Even as a figure skater, Iwasn't flexible.
And they were like, touch yourtoes.
And I was like, I can't touch mytoes like I've never been able
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to.
And they're like, if you stretchevery day, I'm like, I'm
stretching every day and I stillcan't touch my toes.
So, I went to yoga and let'stalk about mind game.
Like, mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Totally.
I'm like, Ooh.
I go through all the thoughtsand Yeah.
Now this is like making mereally stop and focus and be
intentional and Yes, it was,it's, it's hard.
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Yeah.
Especially for us, like type Ago, go, go.
You know, we did CrossFit, welove that like ghost stuff.
So to stop and slowly move anddo yoga, it is hard to mentally
do that.
Yeah.
I was like, people do this forfun.
I had a look around the firsttime when they were doing a pose
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and I was like, people areenjoying this and they can
breathe while they're doingthis.
Like, oh my gosh.
I was like, am I the only one inhere that, that feels this way?
And I know, um, yeah.
I, it is one thing I'm gonna getback to on my shoulder.
Yeah.
Feels I'm gonna get back intoyoga because I do think that.
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There's something intentionalabout slowing everything down
your mind.
Yeah.
Your thoughts.
So powerful.
I agree.
Aging our thoughts.
Yes.
Um, I, I mean, I'm in Kansas.
I wish I was, I could come.
Just fly and see you.
Oh, I know.
Um, I'm trying to think if Iactually, I am part of a group
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on Facebook and I could see ifanybody, I do feel like the
shockwave would be reallyhelpful for you.
Yeah.
So let me reach out and see ifthere's anybody that I know in
your area that has one.
Yeah, I would be totally open tothat.
I've done dry needling.
It's so funny because people arelike, you do dry needling, you
can needle, and I'm like.
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It is like the weirdest pain,but like the most relieving
pain.
Yes.
It's good stuff.
It's, yeah, it is weird to thinkthat you're.
Putting a needle and moving itaround in there, but it changes
also your brain connection tothat muscle to let go, because
if you're only just working onthat area, your brain still is
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not telling that muscle to letgo.
So it helps with the neurologyas well at that brain connection
to the muscle.
So it's pretty cool.
That is, yeah.
So interesting.
Yeah.
Um, do you, what do you tellpeople about their diet?
Do you address that at all, or,oh, yeah.
That's one I am very passionateabout.
I always read my patients andwhat they're open to, um, but go
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doing a more anti-inflammatorydiet.
It's hard for me if somebody isa vegan, because I feel like.
A vegan diet is a little moreinflammatory, but people are
vegans for reasons.
You know, if they, if they're avegan because they think that's
a healthy diet, I don't feelthat way.
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So I encourage my patients,unless it's something they're
completely against to eat goodquality, animal protein because
that's where we get the proteinsthat we need to balance our
hormones and to restore ourmuscles and help with things
like frozen shoulder or backinjuries.
Um, and I used to try to be lowcarb, but to be honest, the more
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I learn.
Women do need some good healthycarbohydrates.
I personally did not do well ona ketogenic diet.
So I do encourage, you know,good quality complex
carbohydrates, as well as theproteins and healthy fats are so
important again, in making yourhormones too.
So, it is something that youintentionally have to focus on
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every day.
'cause we just live in thisworld of processed food like
crazy.
Yeah.
So if you can eat whole Foods,you are winning because it's
hard to get away from theseprocessed foods.
And that's what we do need tostay away from.
Yeah.
And the fast paced world, that'swhat we do is just Yes.
Have the, the easy stuff.
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Um, I know I should say myboyfriend meal preps for me.
Nice.
And so, um, we were doingdifferent meal prepping and so
I, I kind of switched to, um,like red meats.
Mm-hmm.
And so I was like, I hope thisis the right thing to do, like
Yeah.
With meat.
So that's what I've been trying,I was like, it's not gonna hurt
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either it's gonna work or it'snot gonna work, but yeah.
It's easy because I go so much,I would, just grab whatever I
could.
Mm-hmm.
Or I just wouldn't eat becauseI'm like, I don't want to eat
junk.
Mm.
Yeah.
And so a lot of times I'd belike, oh, well I didn't get in
all my protein, all my, youknow, if you do macros, I
didn't, I did not hit that todaybecause I was on the go.
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So if I intentionally set myselfup for the week, then usually I
do better than grabbing things.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's so important to planit out because we're seeing now
two people with hypoglycemia.
So if you don't eat it is reallygoing to impact things.
So making sure you get up andyou get that good breakfast, the
protein, the healthy fats to setyourself up for the day is just
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critical.
Yeah, that's, thank you.
Yeah.
I.
I'm just fascinated byeverything you do and that you
work on the whole body.
Mm-hmm.
I don't think enough people talkabout it.
Thank you.
I think that there's so much, Ifeel like you could offer a
hundred courses not to justlike, I'm like, Hey, let me add
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a little more stress to yourplate of like, can you just
offer some courses to womenbecause we need to make this
more normalized that we can talkabout it.
It's okay to talk about and.
There's people that you can seefor these things?
Yes, because I had no idea what,like where do you start?
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Where do you go?
And I still ask my friends, Iwas like, where would you go?
And they were like.
I don't know.
I never thought that when I was40 I would have to think about
these things.
Mm-hmm.
I know.
Yeah, it's tough.
Definitely finding a functionalmedicine practitioner so they
can take a deeper dive and setyou up for, I'm so big into
prevention and making your lifeeasier in, in the future.
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Because when people don't dothings like myself, my back then
things are 10 times worse.
If we can at least help thattransition into menopause
because it's a long time,ladies, a long time that we go
through this.
Yeah.
Thanks for just being real andsharing about it.
I know this is your daily work,but it's not real in the world.
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Like my goal is to let everybodyknow like there are people out
there.
Yes, and it's okay to talk aboutit, and it's okay to start
thinking about it now insteadof, Hey, even if you're in your
thirties, you should probablystart thinking about these
things.
Absolutely.
Yeah., If we all, I mean,obviously diet for every age
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because there's so much thrownout in the world of.
Just bad information.
Yeah, yeah.
And some of the patients I'mworking with right now, they're
in their teens and they'rehaving hormone issues and it's
like, oh my gosh.
But luckily, we're addressing itnow because it's gonna help them
throughout their whole life.
So even if you're in your teens,it's not too early to address it
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now because it's gonna help youso much in the future.
Yeah.
Uh, thank you for saying thatand just, yeah, I think there's
so much, even as a teen, I can'tman those, I don't wanna go back
to those years.
Those were weird word years.
And then when you think about itand it's like, oh, okay, I got
through those years and now I'mgoing into these years.
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I know.
Uh, we should just make it allnormalized and Okay to talk
about it all.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Like I had no idea too with howmany tampons is normal to go
through during a cycle.
Like, we need to be talkingabout these things.
I was like, oh my gosh.
I was like three times thatamount.
That was not normal.
Like what's happening?
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That's the thing.
And unless you're like in afamily that talks about it or
your friends, like at that age,we didn't talk about it in my
family.
Like, yeah, no, neither did I,so, and it wasn't like a
shameful thing.
It was just like something youdidn't talk about, like, yeah.
Yeah.
So Yeah, I know, I think thatthe kids nowadays, um, are
becoming more open about it.
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Well, they're starting itearlier.
Yeah.
Everything is changing earlier,and I think that they have to
become more open and I hope thatwe can make this world where.
Women can talk about thesethings and they can talk about
these things.
If you have children, talk aboutyour kids or tell them about it
and let it be normalized.
That especially, you know,there's things, all the foods,
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everything like that, thosethings that we can control,
let's control those to make, um,absolutely life better.
Yes, definitely.
Do you wanna talk about anythingelse?
You, I, you're just, so, let'ssee.
So full of knowledge.
So full of knowledge.
Let me get my words out.
I mean, I would love to, I thinkit is one of my goals to have a
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course, an online course.
I'm gonna add more educationalstuff to my functional medicine
program where we're dealing withthe stress response, um, and
resetting that cortisol rhythmand.
Addressing root cause.
But I do feel like a lot of theeducational stuff is so
important.
Um, so yeah, that, that's one ofmy things I'm gonna be working
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on.
I was like, not to throw morestress at you, but pile it on.
And then my own podcast, I'mstarting too.
That is supposed to be launchingon June 5th, now that I put that
out there into the world.
That is happening.
It is happening, yes.
Yeah.
So, um, whatcha are gonna talkabout on your podcast?
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Yeah, I'm gonna be talking aboutall this stuff.
So me and my very good friendfrom chiropractic school, she
also has gone through thefunctional medicine program with
me, and we just called eachother on the phone talking about
health stuff all the time, andwe're like, you know what?
We need a podcast to talk aboutall this stuff.
We're gonna.
Let's talk about the healthstuff, but then we're talking
about, she actually went throughquite a bit of grief, uh, with
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her husband passing while shewas pregnant with their son.
So she's gonna be bringing thatinto the mix.
'cause that's a big passion ofhers is dealing with grief.
And then I'm gonna be adding insome of the stuff of the stress
response and the codependencyand the people pleasing and how
that affects your health andyour life.
And so we're gonna be talkingabout everything.
(37:24):
You're getting into all thefills.
Yes.
Oh yes.
Yeah.
I thank her for normalizing thatand talking about it.
'cause those are just a ton offeelings right there.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And that's something else that Ithink that we don't talk about
is our feelings enough.
Mm-hmm.
I totally agree.
(37:45):
So I'm excited and it's allconnected, even gut problems,
everything.
Our whole body is, it's real.
And so is your, do you have atrailer out um, we should have a
trailer out probably in the nexttwo weeks.
Okay.
Yes.
Working on that.
So I will drop that in the.
(38:06):
Things.
I'm excited to listen for myselfbecause here I am, like gimme
all the knowledge, like, I'mjust like, thank you.
We're podcast junkies over here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I will share all yourinformation where people can
find you.
Oh, thank you.
If you could leave people withsome advice, what do you wanna
leave people with?
Yeah, if they like couple thingstoday.
One thing, definitely educatingyourself because it's
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unfortunate that doctors.
I don't really know everythingthey should know to help you.
I just have a lot of my patientsthat want to run a lot of the
blood work through theirinsurance and they talk to their
doctor and I think their doctordoesn't know, so they brush them
off, which is not okay.
'cause guys, you trust your gut.
(38:51):
You are on the right path.
You know what you need.
And if your doctor can't helpyou, then find another doctor.
You have to be strong.
An advocate for yourself becauseit is important to get the
answers that you deserve.
Like if you feel like crap andyour doctor just does the basic
blood panels and says you'renormal, but you still feel like
crap, keep searching.
(39:12):
You are correct.
You need to find the answer andfind a different doctor if the
one you have is not gonna workwith you.
Oh, that's so good.
maybe I should have said this atthe beginning.
As far as functional medicinedoctor, what is the best way you
would describe that so peoplecan, if they're looking that up
and they're thinking, yeah.
(39:33):
Doctor versus functionalmedicine, doctor I.
I would say we are like a rootcause, like what's causing your
symptoms.
We don't just treat yoursymptoms like if you have a
headache, we're not like, takean Advil or you know, we wanna
find out why you have thatheadache or why you have high
blood pressure.
And I'm such a like, well why?
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Like, you know, that kid inschool?
Like why, why is that?
And it's fun to be a healthdetective and find out why, and
then address that, which is,it's such a better way to do
medicine because you'readdressing your current
symptoms, but then you're alsopreventing so much future crap
(40:14):
from happening because you'veaddressed the cause now.
So if your body has a symptom,it's a loud sign that you need
to dig deep and find out why youhave that symptom.
Thank you for saying all that.
You're so full of knowledge.
I could talk to you all day andjust be like, just give it to
me, gimme more because there'sso much with, you know, I faced
(40:35):
gut issues.
I faced it all, and I wish at anearlier age people would've been
like.
You can, like, it's allconnected.
You know, when I was a baby, Ihad spinal meningitis.
Yeah.
And if I tell a medical doctorthat they look at me and they're
like, oh, you're how old.
And you had it when you were ababy.
You had spinal meningitis whenyou baby.
That has nothing to do withanything now.
(40:56):
And Oh my gosh.
And I'm just like, really?
Like your body's connected andit remembers like, I don't
remember exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I mean, the thingsthat I've been through, you
know, the different things andno one wants to talk about any
of that, so I'm so grateful thatyou are normalizing all of this
and hormones as well.
Yes, it's so fun and.
(41:20):
I feel like functional medicineis the medicine of the future.
It's what lots of patients want,but they don't realize it's
something that exists that's outthere.
Unfortunately.
I'm so sorry guys.
Your insurance does not coverfunctional medicine.
But it allows us to treat youlike we are able to spend as
much time as we need.
(41:40):
We're not rushed.
We're able to order what testsyou actually need.
It's not what the insurancetells us we can do.
And it's frustrating to takeinsurance, which I do for
chiropractic, and they try tocontrol what I do for the
patient.
And it's like you, you're nothere, you're not treating the
patient.
So.
It's honestly so freeing to nottake insurance with the
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functional medicine because Ican just look at you and that's
the only person I care about.
And that's what we're gonna dois to help you.
So, um, find a functionalmedicine doctor.
I really think that you guyswill not, not regret it.
It's gonna be what you need.
Thank you for sharing that.
It's.
I mean, if you guys saw her facewhen she talks about this, she
(42:24):
just lights up and she has thisbig, beautiful smile.
And so I can only imagine beingyour patient and really just
sitting down with you andfeeling heard and seen.
And I think those things ofgetting to like just lay it all
out, just somebody is one of themost important things.
Yes.
I agree.
Yeah.
(42:44):
I wanna thank you.
Do you wanna tell everybodywhere they can find you?
Yes.
So I have a website, which is drter.com.
That's D-R-A-U-C-H-T-E r.com.
And then I have two socialmedias, which is Health in
Motion Chiropractic, and thenalso Health in Motion Wellness,
which is the functional medicineside.
(43:06):
I will leave those in the shownotes so you guys don't have to
remember that.
I do have another questionthough.
Do you treat Yeah.
Just in person, or do you treatover.
Do you do Zoom calls?
Yeah, I do do Zoom calls.
Um, I am a little restricted, soif you live in Florida we can do
so much more.
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But I can do consultations andstuff like that if you live in a
different state.
Or find somebody in my networkthat could definitely help you,
if you are in a different state.
Uh, I appreciate all that.
Yes, I wish I was in Floridaright now.
Well, thanks for letting melike, just pick your brain and
just being so honest and makingeverything so real.
(43:50):
Aw, thanks for having me.
Thank you.
It's an honor to have you onhere and it's, the best thing
about podcasting is just beingable to talk to someone and
connect that you get to see whatlights him up and you're so
passionate about what you do.
Oh, thank you.
And, and you're helping so many.
So I can't thank you enough forcoming on.
(44:11):
Thank you so much.
I will leave everything in theshow notes so you guys can go
find her.
I hope you enjoyed this episodeand go follow her.
And don't forget, on June 5th,her podcast is coming out.
Yay.
So you can go take a listen tothat as well.
Yes, coming.
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