November 8, 2025 • 56 mins
In this special roundtable episode, five women come together to reflect on a life-changing experience — the Infinite Yes Retreat hosted by Cathy Heller in Boca Raton, Florida. What began as a weekend retreat turned into deep sisterhood, transformation, and soul expansion.
Hosted by Christine Marcario of Aligned and Abundant, this heartfelt conversation features:
✨ Casey Taton — Host of The Inner Spark Podcast and founder of Little Moments, Big Dreams Celebrations
✨ Christina Sommers — Host of Loving Your Life Again, breathwork facilitator, and money mentor
✨ Shabana Knight — Host of Organized Chaos Stories with Shabana
✨ Teri Manley — Creator and maker behind Watermelon Tree Designs
Together, we share:
💫 What made them say “yes” to the retreat
💫 The moments that cracked them open
💫 How group healing and shared energy transformed their perspectives
💫 Lessons from powerful teachers like Tracy Litt, Susie Moore, and Cathy Heller
💫 The power of saying no, of rest, and of showing up fully
💫 The friendships, laughter, tears, and sisterhood that continue to ripple outward
Whether you’ve attended a retreat or are dreaming of saying your own “infinite yes,” this conversation is an invitation to remember: you belong, your voice matters, and community heals.
💖 Favorite Moments:
- “When we held hands and just stared into each other’s eyes — it was love reflected back.”
- “It was like walking out as my old self and returning as my 2.0 version.”
- “The yoga I didn’t do was the most powerful yoga I’ve ever had.”
- “I finally learned the power of saying no — and not explaining it.”
- “We all came home full — full of love, light, and each other’s energy.”
💭 Takeaway Message:
When women come together with open hearts, magic happens.
You are allowed to rest. You are allowed to evolve. You are allowed to say yes — and mean it.
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Episode Transcript
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Hey friends.
Welcome to the Enter Sparkpodcast.
I'm your host, Casey Caton.
If you're looking to hearstories of transformation and
personal growth, this podcast isfor you.
My guest and I will be sharingthose sparking moments that has
changed the mental living a morefulfilling authentic life.
I'm so excited for you to heareach unique story.
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So sit back, relax, and let'sget started.
Hey, fan.
Welcome back to the Enter Sparkpodcast and this special
episode.
It's all about saying yes toyourself.
This episode is so special asnot only did I say yes to Kathy
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Heller's Infinite yes retreat inBoca Ratan, Florida.
All these ladies did as well.
This episode is a truereflection of what it's like to
be connected.
To so many beautiful souls.
You'll hear powerful reflectionsas to what different parts of
the retreat meant to each of usand how it continues to live on
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with us daily.
From laughter to tears, to fallon celebrating each other.
I hope you listen with curiosityand ask yourself.
If you have powerful friendswalking along your journey with
you, and if not, this is a greatepisode to know it's possible
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for you as well.
In this episode, Christine willbe guiding us through all the
beautiful questions and I amalso with four other ladies.
I shabana Christine and Terry.
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We're just gonna dive in and Ihope you sit back, relax.
And just fill the magic that wewere able to fill and still can
fill when we talk about it.
There are five of us who havegathered together because we all
went on a retreat together inBoca Raton, Florida, and we are
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still living on the high that wegot from being in each other's
energy.
And from witnessing so muchgrowth, having such aligned and
beautiful conversations andtransformations, and we just
wanted to have a conversationabout all of that beauty that we
experienced together.
On today's episode, I am goingto be leading you through some q
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and a and some reflections.
I am Christine Marcario.
Host of the podcast aligned andabundant.
I'm also a life coach and I leadworkshops on a regular basis as
well as one-on-one and groupcoaching, and I'd like every one
of the other ladies to spend aminute introducing themselves.
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Hi, I am Casey.
I'm from Kansas and I am thehost of the Enter Spark podcast
and I run a local organization,little Moments, big Dreams,
celebrations.
Doing parties for kids in thehospital, and I also have a
community as well.
And I am Christina Summers.
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I am the podcast host of LovingYour Life Again.
I'm a breathwork facilitator,somatic coach, and money mentor,
really helping women stopoutsourcing their power and
reclaim safety in both theirbodies and their bank accounts.
Hi, I am Shabana Knight.
I'm a mother.
I have three kids.
I just started a new podcast.
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It's called Organized ChaosStories with Shabana.
I'd love for you to check itout, and I'm in Washington state
and lots of other amazing thingsyou get to hear.
Hi, I'm Teri.
I live in Virginia Beach.
I'm a mom and grandma and greatgrandma, and I don't have a
podcast yet.
I am the maker of all the cute,cozy crochet on watermelon tree
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design.
I hope you take a look.
I love that.
And with that, we are going tohave all of our links and
offerings in the show notes nomatter what platform or whose
podcast you're listening to thison.
And I also just wanna say thatit is really amazing that we are
all from all over the place,which is really beautiful
because we were able to connect,because we were brought together
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through a community.
We all decided to say yes to theinfinite Yes retreat hosted by
Kathy Heller, who is a dearmentor to all of us.
And really we have gotten toknow each other not only by
attending this retreat, but infacing different obstacles and
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overcoming those obstacles andfinding uniformity in just
really championing other womenand helping each other.
Process through anything thatcomes up along our path towards
really trying to make our dreamsa reality.
And so I would love to go aroundand see who is willing to answer
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the question of what made yousay yes to coming on this
retreat.
I know that for me it was adefinite yes, because this was
my second retreat with KathyHeller.
I went on my first retreat inMarch.
And I flew out to LA Solo bymyself, and then I explored la,
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which was also crazy to mebecause they have cars that
drive around with no driver.
I literally did a double takeand I was like, wait, what?
And no, I'm not getting in thatcar.
Everyone else can, but not me.
And so the bottom line is youexperience such.
Transformation not only inyourself, but in group healing.
And you're exposed to so manywomen who have such wisdom and
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insight, and we learn.
It's like reading a book.
You learn through someone else'sexperience, someone else's
wisdom, someone else's share,and the energy and love that you
feel at one of these retreats isjust life.
Changing, and I cannot speakhighly enough of the experience
because you're in a room withlike-minded people and it's just
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so beautiful.
So I'm curious to see what madeeach of you or whoever's willing
to share say Yes to coming onthis retreat.
Terry, you're up first.
I went to the first retreat atthe end of March with you at
Bloom, and that was a whole newexperience.
I'd never experienced anythinglike that before, and it put a
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little crack in the armor.
So when this one came about, itwas like, oh yeah, I'm all the
way in on this one because.
There's just too much goodnesshappening to pass it up.
And I wanna say real quick, whenI walked into the room, you were
the first one that jumped up andgave me the biggest hug, and we
became fast friends because ofan activity that we were paired
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up together to do at the firstretreat, which was amazing.
Right?
That was a good one.
Yes.
Yes, Christina.
Yeah, so I've been in Kathy'sworld for some time, but was
really like hiding in plainsight the entire time.
It was like just watchingeverything was going on and
soaking up all the energy.
And I decided in 2025, this isthe year, this is the year that
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I'm gonna go.
'cause I've always seen thepromotions for him and I'm like,
I really wanna go, but I'd havethe excuse, whatever the excuse
was, and you know.
They're based in reality, butthey really are just those
excuses.
So it was like, okay, this isthe year I have decided I am
gonna make it work and find away, and it's time to get outta
my comfort zone and stop hidingin clean sight and start really
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doing the work that I'm leadingother people with.
And I think that even thoughyou're saying you were hiding in
plain sight, I know that I sawyou, you know, I saw you on
camera.
I saw the growth.
I saw the progress.
So now when I'm seeing youoffering things and showing up
fully as yourself, you weren'thiding in plain sight.
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You were doing the work, but youwere keeping quiet about it, but
you were definitely doing it,Christina.
Casey, I wanna say I agree withwhat you say about Christina.
You have definitely been seenand so it's just so exciting to
see you on camera, like justglowing and to see you in
person.
I said yes.
I went to Kathy Hiller'spodcasting Summit and I wanted
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to, it was amazing.
Oh man, I think there was like300 women at it and I wanted to
experience the more intimate.
That everybody had talked aboutwhen they got back from Bloom.
So I was like, yes, I am in forthis.
Like if 300 women can beamazing, what can it be like
when we get even like justcloser and closer and closer and
feel the love of everybody inthere?
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And I think that is somethingthat you definitely experience
because it's almost like nomatter how many women are there,
there's something about like themagnetic draw of the right
people.
You know, you can walk in andnot know a single person like I
did for the first one.
Like yes, there are people thatI recognize from our Zoom calls,
but I really didn't know anybodyand yet I felt so much love and
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so safe, and that was.
One of the draws that brought meback to the second one.
So it's just really such abeautiful, beautiful invitation
to be around like-minded womenwho want to just raise not only
themselves up, but everyone inthe room.
Like there's no sense of likecompetition.
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Like I've never felt that inthis community, and that's why I
keep coming back, honestly.
Now I'd like to dive into wasthere a particular moment where
you realized.
This is exactly where I'm meantto be.
Christina.
Yeah, I'll share.
It's funny that this question ishere because I don't remember
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the exact time moment, but Iremember the feeling of when I
first walked in the place wasjust so grand and so beautiful,
and so like something I've neverexperienced before.
And though I was trying to stayin my body and stay in like
confidence and like when youwalked into the room, you felt
the love and you're like, okay,I'm welcome here.
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But I think it was on the secondday when I was walking back into
the retreat center, I'm like,you know what?
I do belong here.
This is the place for me.
Because it just felt so naturaland so home, especially like the
place was so big, it was like,am I gonna get lost in here?
And then.
As we continued to navigatethrough the weekend, it was
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like, I know exactly where I'mat, and like it was no problem.
I'm like, this feels like home.
This feels comfortable.
This feels expansive and sodelicious.
So I'm so grateful for allowingmyself to experience that.
That's beautiful.
And I, I can understand whatyou're saying because when you
pull up, it's like this ambianceof like.
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Luxury and amazingness.
And you know, that was one of mytakeaways too, because we're
constantly trying to work onbringing in abundance and
fulfilling like our self-worth.
And the same, I was like, I fitright in here.
You know, like emotionally like,right.
I'm like, I fit right in here.
And so it was just such abeautiful experience because you
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don't know how you're gonna feeluntil you show up.
And then when you just.
Open and expand your heart andyour willingness to grow into
the most amazing, deliciousversion of yourself.
Who is there waiting.
It's just so expansive and sobeautiful.
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Moving on, what part of theretreat experience impacted you
the most and why?
I'll speak first and I will justsay.
There is a moment, or rather anactivity that we all do at the
very end, and I won't go intotoo much detail because perhaps
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one of the other women wannachime in to it.
But it is just such an amazingexperience where we all do an
activity together.
And in that activity.
The hearts that are open and theemotions that are flowing.
I mean, the tissue boxes are onhand and there are so many women
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that are crying because they arereceiving the healing that they
need.
And there's something beautifulabout group healing because if
something.
Is being healed in someone elsethat reflects a pain point in
you.
You are all healing together andthat's what this retreat gave us
the opportunity to do.
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Casey, I think that what yousaid right there was one of the
most powerful moments, but Ithink another really like.
A just powerful moment for mewas when we did the exercise
where we held someone's hand andI got to hold your hand and the
experience was so emotional andso like just the exchange of
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tears and smiles of staring intosomeone else's eyes and feeling
the open-hearted love of howcapable we are to love each
other and to receive that backit, it was just.
Yeah, I'm gonna get Sarahtalking about it.
Sorry.
It was just a magical moment forme.
Yeah.
Aw.
And I love that so much becauseyou know what it is, it's like
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in that moment, like I saw youand all the potential that you
have that maybe you don't see inyourself quite yet.
And then it was reflected backand, and back and back and forth
and back and forth and.
And it's also funny because youstay in it to the point of
discomfort and then it's like itexpands and explodes in a point
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where it's almost like you don'twanna let go, and it's amazing.
And that's again, just anotherreason why saying yes to going
on this retreat was just ano-brainer for any of us.
You know, Terry, I can relate toboth of those incidences.
It made me feel like.
I wasn't the only oneexperiencing those inner
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turmoils, and we all do it.
We all have that, those samefeelings, and it was just mind
opening that I'm not the onlyone.
It's not just me.
Everybody's going through thesame thing and we all come out
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better on the other end forsharing it with everybody else.
Go ahead, Shabana.
I think the whole weekend wasimpactful, but something that
was really impactful for me waswhen we were doing the yoga back
in July, I had to hurt my backand so I was just choosing to
just lay on the mat, but I feellike it was the most.
Amount of yoga I've done in mylife by laying there on the mat
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and just receiving all thesedownloads and healing and like I
cried so much.
I felt so much, it was like thebest yoga experience I've ever
had.
And I like did not even move.
So it was like, I felt like itwas working on my soul.
The lady who led it was amazing.
So that was like one of the mostimpactful part of my weekend
was.
The non yoga, but the yogaChristina.
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Yeah.
So it's funny how you canreflect back and relate to every
single one of these moments thatyou shared.
And really when I talk about it,it was not just one particular
moment, but how each one builtupon each other and it was like
this golden thread that was.
Woven throughout the entireweekend.
So like from that first activityof what are you a yes for?
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And where we partnered up and wereally had to come from our soul
and partnered up.
And if, if it's not coming fromthe soul, stop'em gently and
say, start again.
And say, start again.
And I found when I was partneredwith who I was partnered with,
it was very easy for me togently say, start again.
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And I thought I was good.
And then I went to go start, andI'm like, Ooh, I'm in my mind.
And I caught myself, but I waskind of hoping that she wouldn't
see it, but she's also a verygood coach.
So she saw it and she called meout on it.
But then each activity builtupon that.
So that final activity where wewere walking out.
As our old selves and walkingback in, it was like I fully
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embodied that, who I may yesfor, and it just flowed.
There was no pausing.
There was no stopping.
There was.
She was just there and shearrived and she was allowed to
show up as her in a safe way.
And that is so amazing.
So for the listeners, each andevery single one of the women
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who were there, and I thinkthere was roughly 70 people, had
to go out into the hallway andleave behind the past version of
themself and enter the room witheverybody watching and cheering
you on with.
Amazing music playing, and youstepped in as your 2.0 version
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of yourself, and you did not getout of that hallway until the
coach that you were paired withsaw that you met business.
And I know for me, Jennifer Listdid not let me pass, go easily
because I had to say and releasesome stuff.
And once she truly saw it in myeyes that I was ready.
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I stepped out and walked downand you get in your head a
little bit in the moment, butthen you walk in and at first I
walked in a little bit shy, andthen something in me just like
clicked.
And I think that was probablythe moment for me.
Like something just clicked,like, holy, this is gonna be
epic, this new chapter.
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And I'm so excited to ride thiswave and see where it goes.
Moving on a little bit deeper,did you find yourself reflected
in someone else's story orsomeone else's energy?
I feel like we've already tappedupon that a little bit, but does
anyone have a story in whichthey'd wanna share where they
felt an experience or aconnection that they didn't even
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know they needed while they werethere in person?
Christina?
Yeah, so I think.
No, we've tapped on it.
It was very much, you could feelyourself whether the details of
the story were different, butyet you felt the alignment with
it and you could relate to insome form or fashion.
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But I remember when Tracy Litwas presenting and somebody
stood up and she was like, Icall bs.
And I wasn't really feeling thatin the moment.
But it lit something inside usto say how bold she is and then
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how gracious how to witnesssomebody who's actually in the
work doing the work, practicingwhat she teaches, to be able to
hold her in that and watchthose.
Dissolve and she did it personafter person, after person.
Like I found a little bit ofmyself in each person who shared
a bit of their story, thatagain, the details were
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different, but the energy, thefeelings, the sensations were
the same.
And while Tracy was holding herin it, she was holding me in it
as well to allow some of thosetensions, those resistances, to
soften and float away.
That's such a beautifulreflection because yes, Tracy
Lit was amazing at hearing whatthe person needed and holding
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space for them, and I almostfelt like we were on bated
breath at some points.
Like we were all holding spaceas like.
Particular women were like goingthrough major life changing
transformations before our eyes.
It was truly such an amazingexperience that I know I will, I
will definitely remember becauseit was so impactful.
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For sure.
Casey, you have something toadd?
Yeah, I just wanna kind of playoff what you said.
Just the feeling of being ableto truly connect, even if that
story wasn't ours.
And just holding space and alsojust like being able to relate
it to yourself in a way and justfully allowing yourself, like we
shed tears and then we likewould just die laughing at, you
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know, what would come out of it.
And I think it was just so, sopowerful that.
You can hold space for someoneand allow it like, oh, okay,
this relates to me in my life,and you know, shed those tears
along with them and as you'reholding space, and then just
like celebrate it all together.
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Yeah.
I think it goes back to thecomponent of like group healing.
Like anything that was reflectedin any of those particular brave
women who raised their hand andwere vulnerable in front of us,
it definitely healed.
All of us, or any part of usthat needed that same healing.
And that's the beauty of, again,being in such a space that
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really unifies all of us.
So that's a nice segue into hasthe retreat changed how you see
yourself, your life path, or howyou're handling your offerings,
or how you show up for yourselfevery day.
I'd love to hear some of thetakeaways in which this retreat
has affected you personally,whether it's you personally, or
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your business.
Harry, I get emotional.
I'm not one to stick my face outthere, and you all saw that that
weekend, and Jennifer Lis mademe, it was a, it was a challenge
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that she gave me and I met thechallenge and I know that I'm
worthy.
What I have is good.
And everybody else needs to seethat too.
And if I don't show myself,nobody knows.
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So I feel that, I think thatprobably happened for a lot of
people that you finally said yesto yourself so you could show
yourself to the world.
Yeah, I totally hear that.
And I had said to Shabana at onepoint during the retreat, I
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said, I wish we could just likelive here in this energy because
we'd all be like millionairesand billionaires by now.
Because the energy that you havein this container is just so
like fire.
It's just so alive.
And Terry to witness you get onstage in front of everybody.
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Speak and oh my God, you were soin your power.
I mean, you were amazing.
Amazing.
I said, yes.
And when I went out in thathallway for our last little
Leave yourself behind, Jenniferwas my coach in the hallway, and
she looked at me and said, go.
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She knew.
She, she knew.
I love that.
I love that so much.
And not only that, you brought agift for all of us.
That was the fun part.
This goes to show how much likewe all think about one another,
and so people we don't evenknow.
Yes.
Because it's almost like we havethis sisterhood, we have this
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deep bond, and it's like meetinglike a long lost family member
that you can feel the resonanceand you can pick up on their
energy.
And then when you finally meeteach other in person, like you
already feel like you know them.
You know?
Right.
And so there was no coincidencethat we all ended up on this
retreat together, that we're allon this podcast together, and
it's just so beautiful.
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Shaana, go ahead.
I think it's just important to.
Just always, every now and thenjust to be in that energy,
whether it's on our, like weeklycalls or at a retreat every
couple months or whatever,because it's really there where
I personally feel like I receiveso many downloads and insights
and I take care of myself.
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I, I get to detach from mom modeand work mode and stuff and get
like literally like filled backup so I can pour back out.
And just how important it is.
Also, just to have amazing womenwho have gone before us to show
us an example of what's trulypossible.
Like Tracy's energy was amazing.
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Everybody who came was amazing.
Kathy obviously, but just.
To be there with all you guysand receive all this energy and
then be able to go home and pourthat back into myself and my
family and my business.
Just yesterday, our furnacedecided to stop working.
So it's like, all right, how doI stay positive in this
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wonderful situation?
And so it's just like, what?
Like just like a regrounding oflike, okay.
What, what's in my control?
What phone calls do I need tomake?
And then today's been just somany ups and downs with
scheduling and kids and whatnot,and it's Monday, but it's like,
okay, but I'm gonna choose toget on this call.
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And this is, this is great.
I get to hang out with myfriends and talk and share this
love and light with the world.
So just regardless of the crazy.
All this community and theseactivities and stuff is, it's
such an anchor in my life and Ijust, I appreciate all that,
Christina.
Yeah, so one of the things thatcomes back to me is anytime the
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stickiness of life being lifey,of just the responsibilities,
trying to juggle multiplethings, and when you start to
feel that sense of overwhelm orthat sense of just.
Falling back into old patterns.
Remembering to pause and say, Iget choice.
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I get to choose how I want toshow up.
Do I want to choose to continueto be that 2.0 version of myself
continuing to pull her in andbecome like, stay her, become
her, evolve through her, or do Iwanna fall back into old
patterns and behaviors?
And really throughout theweekend, having the moments of
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teaching and then integrationand teaching and integration and
teaching.
So we were really able to likeembody, not just learn, not just
feel the energy, both are great,but then really integrate
everything that we were doing.
I feel like it has been fullyembodied, so now I'm much more
aware of when things get sticky.
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Do I wanna stay in thestickiness?
Sometimes we might, and that'sokay as long as we don't choose
to stay there.
But then taking that next stepforward and what, what would
feel really good to my soulright now?
What is, what is my body askingfor?
What do I need to do next?
And if that's rest, or if that'sstepping out of your comfort
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zone because you might wannafeel like you need rest because
you need to make a conversationthat you don't wanna have or
take an action that you don'twant to take.
So really being able to.
See more clearly those things asthey arise and being able to
live as her and not the oldversion.
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Casey, I think one of thebiggest things for me is when
Susie Moore was on and she justsays No, and I've heard her
podcast, I've heard her oncalls, but the power of being in
her presence and her just beinglike.
No, and I, I wish I could do itin her accent because it just
makes it even more powerful.
But her just like setting upthere and being like, I can say
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no to my friends to dinner andnot feel guilty.
I can say no and look at myschedule and just say no, and
there's no explanation needed.
And to me that was like, okay, Ithought I was saying no, but my
days get so booked.
And I was like, I'm not sayingno to the things that don't feel
aligned with me.
And so that was really powerfulfor me is to.
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And just say no.
And then even practice it therewith people like, no, I don't
wanna do that, or, no, I don'twanna go to dinner tonight.
And so, yeah, I think that wasone of the really big things.
That's amazing.
And honestly, the power of no isso important to honor your
energy, your space.
And I wanna circle back to whatChristina was saying because I
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feel like.
As women who are all eitherrunning or growing their own
business.
Sometimes we get caught up inthe go, go, go, but sometimes
the next aligned step is rest.
And so it's so important tohonor what we're being guided to
do.
There's nothing lazy aboutgiving your body.
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The rest that it needs.
In fact, you're just rechargingyour battery, you're getting
your headspace back together.
You are just realigning, andthere's nothing wrong with that.
So I think that's such abeautiful thing to remember is
that rest is okay.
We are not machines, we are notrobots.
We are not designed to go 24 7,and we all have obstacles that
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we're overcoming or maybeovercoming physically also or
emotionally, like everyone has.
Baggage like in this lifetime,no one came with a free and
clear pathway, and so we're alljust here together.
Really just lifting each otherup and making that baggage
lighter or helping take it awayand putting it on the belt and
it goes and gets loaded offsomewhere else because it's
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just, it's so transformationalfor us to all be in this space
together and witness the growththat comes with championing each
other on.
If you were to relive one momentfrom the retreat, which one
would be your favorite moment torelive?
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I know for me, one of the bestmoments was walking in and just.
Seeing so many people that Ihave seen on camera and just be
in everyone's presence becauseeveryone just felt so alive, so
excited, and if anyone wasfeeling nervous, it was almost
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like it wasn't there.
It was beautiful.
And also on this particularretreat, I was just so amazed at
the knowledge that the guestspeakers had.
They were just such powerfulwomen, none of which I had ever
been exposed to before, and Iknow that baffles some people.
But yeah, I had never heard ofany of these women.
And then I instantly becamelike, okay, follow, follow.
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Listen here, do this, do that.
I was like, sold.
I'm like, sold, sold, sold.
Because you.
Take what you can from the womenwho have cleared the path before
you and when they say you can doit.
I mean, that means somethingthat that's gold right there in,
in its weight, you know?
So that for me was likeabsolutely amazing.
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And also to see like theauthenticity and the, like the
real person, like when you're ina group of women and people let
their hair down and they sharethe vulnerable stories or the.
Obstacles that they had toovercome to get where, or even
the struggles that they stillhave as in our eyes, someone
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famous, you know, they, whenthey share those struggles, I
mean, it's just, it just showsthat we're all human, you know?
And we're all these beautifulsouls having these human
experiences together, Shabana.
I mean other than just relivingthe whole weekend away, there's
all that.
But I know this is kind ofsilly, but I would like love to
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just have all the lunches again,I didn't have to make it.
I didn't have to clean up afterit.
I could fully enjoy it.
I got to connect with women.
I got to then take a break andlike go walk on the beach one
day during lunch.
Like that was just so luxurious.
Just to be in that energy, thatfood, just everything.
Yeah, like all the meals so Idon't have to cook.
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Well, I love that because ifanyone knows me, I do not like
grocery shopping or cooking.
I like eating.
All right.
Does anyone else have a momentthat they wish they could relive
again, Casey, I think when wewere going to leave the last day
when we just all danced ourhearts out and celebrated each
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other.
The power of that and the powerof everybody just like hugging
each other.
At the end, it was like, we alljust did this together and it's
like, what's next?
Now we got to see everybody walkout or like come in those doors,
like come in as somebody andthen like fully experience all
their emotions and then come inas like a new person when they
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walk through those doors thefinal day and then just dance
and celebrate the heck out ofeach other.
And then that just group hug atthe end was like.
Let's just stay in this energyand just like light the heck up
out of each other and justcelebrate each other so, so big
because we are all so freakingworthy of everything we want in
our lives.
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I receive that wholeheartedly.
Christina?
Yes.
All that you just said, and Iagree with you Shabana too, of
not having to worry about thelogistics and Christine not
having to go grocery shoppingand do the cooking, and just
those things that take so muchtime.
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When we can actually sit down toenjoy it and have like community
and fellowship.
But I think for me what wasarising is the meditation on the
beach, being able to sit on thebeach and having the ocean waves
after.
And all of us experiencing thesame thing at the same time.
And the getting up and thedancing on the beach at the same
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afterwards and then taking thatwith me.
'cause I remember this wasn'tlike specifically at the
retreat, but shortly thereafterwhen I was going back to my room
to freshen up and.
Deciding on what I was gonna dofor that night.
And I saw you and Shabana in thehotel lobby, and it's funny, I
had doing self parking and I waslike, you know what?
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I've been on my feet all day.
I'm gonna ask to upgrade tovalet.
I'm worthy of it.
So had I not done that, Iprobably would've never seen you
guys at the front desk and then.
They offered you guys like somekind of free thing, and then I
found my voice and I'm like,well, if they can get that, can
I get that too?
So then even just finding thatvoice and taking that with me in
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my everyday of like, you knowwhat, let me start asking.
Let me start asking and it wasjust so empowering to be able to
continue to live that and walkit out.
But yeah, the meditation on thebeach, if I could do that every
day, I love listening to the subof the ocean in the background
of everything.
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So many things there becauseone, just imagine 70 women
getting shuttled over to abeach.
So we filled two shuttle busesand so that was just so much
fun.
Like we were going on a fieldtrip because you know, when
you're a kid, sometimes the carride was like the highlight of
the trip because you're all inthe car.
And that's not the case here,but that's what it reminded me
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of when I was in Girl Scouts.
Like the, the car ride wasalways so much fun.
And so that was such a beautifulexperience, but.
Shabana also has a way of.
Looking through a differentlens.
And so when we got to the hotel,and this was a, a different
hotel that we were staying atbesides where the retreat was
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held.
And she was like, well, whyshould we pay for parking?
And so she just asked.
And then Christina happened tobe there and she's like, well,
if they're not gonna pay forparking, why am I paying for
parking?
And so it was such a beautifulexperience.
So it was really, really cool.
You know when you have a voiceand you have the courage to
speak up and ask like, why not?
You know, why not?
'cause you don't know how you'regonna be responded to.
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All right, Terry, do you wannachime in?
I think my biggest takeaway wasthe soul connection with
everybody there.
Even if I didn't really have aone-on-one conversation with
those people, I can see theirpicture or they'll be in a group
and I see them and it's like,oh, they were at the retreat.
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And you have a little soulconnection with them because of
what we've all went throughtogether and the emotions that
we shared.
So that was the big takeaway forme, Jovanna.
I think again, just exactly whatTerry said, like that soul
connection, because I know forme there was a period in my
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adult life where I had kids, butI didn't have like friends and I
didn't have like good qualityfriendships and I felt like I
was putting myself out there,but there was never, like, there
was a period of a couple yearswhere I never, I was like, I
remember talking to my mentor,another lady, and I was like.
Julie.
I just want friends.
Like I want friends my age andmy stage of life going through
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what I'm going through.
We have goals and vision and allthis stuff, and like, she's
like, just pray.
They'll come like, just bepatient.
It's, it's gonna happen kind ofthing.
And.
The more that I'm in thispersonal development space, the
more amazing friendships come upand like Terry's a lot older,
but we can connect and then Ican connect with Christina and
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Christine and Casey and like allthese other amazing women, even
though they live in differentparts of the US or the world.
I mean, we have a friends inAustralia because of this group.
It's just amazing the women youmeet.
How like these relationships areso fulfilling and so nourishing.
So like after this call I canjump back into mom mode and feel
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energized and alive.
And I know these relationshipswouldn't happen if I hadn't
taken the time to work on myselfand go to these retreats and do
X, Y, and Z.
Like, you gotta put yourself outthere if you want friendships.
'cause we all deserve to havegood friendships.
Totally.
And it's not even just aboutlike.
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Being happy all the time either.
There have been plenty of timeswhere, you know, I've reached
out to Shabana and I'm like, I'memotionally spent today.
Like, gimme a pep talk.
You know what I mean?
And she'll be able to like, turnthe page for me, or, you know, I
look at just witnessing thegrowth that each of you have and
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or are going through.
Like Terry, when I see yourcrochet, like I, I told you when
I was at the retreat, I waslike, I love these little
pumpkins that you have right nowbecause.
Halloween in October is myfavorite month, and I was like,
this is an amazing, cute littleproduct.
And so every one of us just hassomething that I think resonates
within each of us, and we allare working in different
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capacities and giving love,whether it's through a physical
product.
Or Casey filling up that snackcart for the parents of the
children who are undergoingtreatment.
Christina, you're doing amazingwork with coaching and getting
yourself out there.
You just offered an amazingworkshop last week, which I'm
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personally hoping that you'regoing to.
Offer again.
And I just think that there's somuch beauty in you just don't
know who's gonna inspire you.
Like, I'm not gonna say nameshere right now, but there was
like an older woman in herseventies who was there and I
really connected with her.
And age is just, it's just anumber.
Some of my best friends areolder than me, and you know why
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I love that?
Because they have.
Experience.
Like I can learn from that and Imight have someone who looks up
to me who's, you know, 10, 15years younger than me because
we're all in this together.
And I think that's where thebeauty lies, because it's like
age how you look.
All that just falls to thewayside because we're looking at
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each other as souls.
Like we are feeling each other'shearts, our energy, our purpose,
and that is just like, I justgot chills.
Like that's where the magic is.
In this community and going on aretreat where you get to spend
time with each other.
And you know, I, I was sayingthat like I feel like five days
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would be even better, but I'lltell you, like, while this all
sounds amazing and fun, at theend of the day you are exhausted
because you are taking in somuch and it's so much goodness.
But it can also be like a bit oflike.
Sensory and emotional overload.
So I'm curious, is there apractice or a mantra that you
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have picked up and that you useas a daily or weekly practice
that you have incorporated intoyour life as a result of either
attending this retreat or theBloom retreat or being in this
community?
I'd love to hear it.
Shabana.
So at the end of this retreat,one of the participants led a
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calligraphy workshop.
Shout out to Angie, but thatreally calls me to slow down.
So I haven't necessarily donecalligraphy since the retreat,
but I've been learning to slowdown and start coloring and it's
been so good.
'cause I'm such a go, go, goperson.
So just slowing down and.
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Just settling and then I'm readyfor the next thing.
So it's more of like arts andcrafts I'm jumping into and it
feels so good for my soul,Casey.
And then Christina, I wannafollow what Shabana just said
because I got so nervous atfirst I, when we were doing it,
I could feel like theperfectionism coming out in me
instead of like not allowingmyself to have fun.
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And the other thing is I wroteopen heart down as my word and.
I didn't even think about it.
And later I came home into apost-it note and open is the
word of, I chose the word of theear and open is the word of my
ear that is stuck right here.
And I was like, oh, of course.
But I agree.
It has like really just made methink you can draw, you can
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write things down and it cancalm your body and it can also
be so fun.
And I just wanna follow up onthat'cause it was so powerful
for me.
Just to take that away.
Yeah, I loved that activity too.
And though now I need toremember to go back and bring
out my coloring and getting thatarts and crafts on because how
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much it does allow you to slowdown a mantra that I've
developed over the years.
It's really been since I've beenin Kathy's world in this
personal development journey.
Not so much from this retreat,but I think it really ties into,
'cause my word for thecalligraphy was the same word
for my year as freedom.
And this mantra is.
One day, one moment, one breathat a time.
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And growing up my dad was analcoholic, so I was an Al-Anon
and ine.
And when I was really in myhealing journey, which is where
I started my personaldevelopment one day at a time,
really felt like too muchsometimes.
So then I focused on the momentand then when I learned breath
work, which I found breath workthrough Kathy, one of Kathy's
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friends, mentors, partners.
People that she hangs with,really the power of your breath.
So I'm like, sometimes even themoment is too much and can we
come back to the breath?
And if you can come back to thebreath, you can come back to
everything and you can getthrough it one step at a time.
Oh my God, that is so amazingthat you shared that, and I'm
glad that you were vulnerableenough to share that.
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And I love how it also ties intoyour business name, breadth of
renewal, because that to mespeaks volumes as to the
authenticity.
The love and the intention thatyou have behind your practice
and your business, so kudos.
Christina.
You've come a long way, myfriend Terry.
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I can relate to all of that as atype A perfectionist.
Sometimes what can be fun isn'treally fun because I have to
make it.
Perfect.
So I get into the breath workand chant at myself.
This is fun.
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This is supposed to be fun.
This is supposed to be fun untilit's fun again.
And I did buy my a hundred boxof colored pencils last week so
I could continue coloringbecause my colored pencils were
running out.
It's funny how we all love tocolor.
It's so amazing how manytakeaways that we each have.
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And I think for me, one of thethings that I really hone in on
is Kathy always tells us we arenot someone.
We are some of the one.
And that is what came throughfor me, the loudest when we were
all doing that ending activitythat we started this
conversation talking about.
So basically.
I don't wanna give too muchaway, but we're each downloaded,
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right?
We each go inward to our selfand we take a phrase that we
need to hear and then we shareit in a unique way with every
woman who's there.
And that, for me, just reallylike solidified that experience
because what I had come throughfor me.
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Helped so many other women andvice versa.
And it just went on and it wenton like a waterfall.
Like it just kept coming and itwas just such an expansive
experience that I know, like I,I personally love that so much.
Like if I could relive thatevery day, it would be amazing
to have that like Jiminy Cricketin your ear who's like, this is
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what you need to know, you know?
One other thing I really likeabout these type of retreats is
that it's not a competition,it's a collaboration where
like-minded women come together,learn, grow, explore, and then
we go back to our normal lives,not in retreat mode.
We can keep growing andexpanding and encouraging and
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loving each other from afar, butyou get that in-person hug and
just all the details, but justlike it's not a competition,
it's a collaboration, and Ithink that's just so important
to remember.
Casey, for my parting words, Ijust wanna say, first of all, I
love all of you.
I think you've all made animpact in my life, but for
anybody out there listening,just be you like authentically
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you.
That's when you're gonna findand connect with people on a
whole nother level, and you'llfind your people.
That's definitely great advicebecause at the end of the day,
people connect withauthenticity.
So stop the people pleasing.
Stop acting.
As if you're trying to convincesomeone.
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People love authenticity, andpeople can spot in authenticity
a mile away.
They can read your energy themoment you walk into the room,
and I think that's what's soimportant.
And again, that's what.
A retreat such as this or aperson like a, a leader, Kathy
Heller, you know, alone justinspires all of us to put our
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hair down and show up as is.
And I think that's why we allwere able and continue to have
such a deep connection with oneanother, because again, we're
not just.
You're not worried about who thecool kid is because we're all
the cool kid in this community.
We're all the cool kid, and forsome of us that's healing
childhood wounds right there.
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And then we're just turning intothese beautiful new versions of
ourselves and it's just sofreaking amazing.
Christina?
Yeah, so building on theauthenticity, something that
Kathy really gave permission forthroughout all of her teaching
is.
Being you and setting down thatpeople pleaser.
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And really, because when you'repeople pleasing, people really
aren't liking you.
'cause they don't know you.
You're not being you.
And really going back to thebeginning of allowing myself to
be seen, even though I was beingseen all along, I thought I was
hiding.
I was keeping myself safe, butreally allow yourself to be seen
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because your best friend mightbe right next to you.
But if you're not allowingyourself to be seen and you're
not being your authentic you,you'll never know.
And then lastly, when you gofirst, you give permission to
everybody else around you.
So if we're all staying in thispeople pleasing mode and trying
to fit this box, that societytells us that we need to fit in.
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We're really all conforming tosomething that we're not really.
So when you go first, you reallygive permission to the woman
next to you who then can givepermission.
And then we're all actuallybeing who we were created to be.
And we're being, and we're notdoing, you know, we're being
Terri.
I think the last thing I wannasay is if you have an
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opportunity to go on one ofKathy's retreats, go.
Your heart will tell you yes.
Your head will tell you, oh no,I can't afford it.
It's too far away.
I don't have a babysitter who'sgonna cook for the kids?
The cat needs to be let out.
The dog needs to be taken careof.
But guess what?
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It'll all get taken care of andyou need to go.
Don't let your brain talk youout of it.
I couldn't agree more.
Let the heart lead.
I wanna firsthand say that thisconversation has been so
beautiful.
I'm so thankful for Casey forcoming up with this amazing idea
and then we just rolled with it.
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We all said yes again, andthat's the power of this
wonderful group of women.
I love where we're going.
I love all of the amazing thingsthat are unfolding for us and
you know, real talk like.
Our lives aren't perfect.
There are obstacles.
There are things that we havegoing on in our day to day
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furnaces breaking all thethings, but we keep showing up
and we keep showing up forourselves first and foremost.
And then, like Christina said,when we show up for ourselves,
it gives permission to thewoman.
Who is listening to this, to thewoman who is witnessing you come
alive as you sell your productor share your experience, and
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it's just the most beautiful.
There's like almost no words.
It's just the most beautiful,expansive opportunity.
Like I revolve my weeks aroundwhen, when our calls are, you
know, because like it's like thehighlight of my day some days
because you just walk awayfeeling so energized, so loved,
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so seen or hidden, but alsoseen, you know, at the same
time.
And yeah.
It's so funny because like Ihad.
Just to end on a funny note,like, yeah, I had someone come
up to me and I was like, oh myGod, you're Christine.
I had to meet Christine and I'mlike.
I don't even know who you are,but okay, now let me get to know
you.
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Like it was really cool.
I was like, oh, okay.
Like this girl's seen me andit's so funny because there are
people on screen who I'm like,oh yes, so and so always wears
the pink.
I love that.
Oh my God, her hair always looksso amazing.
I love her energy.
I love her spirit.
I love when she raises her hand,and it's just such an empowering
and amazing community, and Ihighly recommend that you get
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yourself.
A community, get yourself a lifecoach.
Because I'm 42 years old and Ijust got myself a life coach
this past year, and honestly, itwas the best investment in
myself because I am not the sameperson who started this year off
in January of 2025.
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I am a whole different person.
Like still, you know me to thecore, but like the
expansiveness.
Is amazing and I suspect thatthat's true for all of us on
this call, and it's so possiblefor all of our listeners.
For sure.
So I wanna thank you so much fortuning in to today's episode.
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No matter where you're listeningor what podcast you're listening
to this on, I hope that you takesomething away from this and it
would be.
So amazing if we were to see youat one of Kathy Heller's Next
retreats.
No matter where our paths cross,I hope that you were able to
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listen to the authenticity andthe wholeheartedness of the
women on this.
Call and I hope that you wereable to take something away and
bring it to how you move throughthe day.
So we all wanna leave you withso much love and light, and
thank you for giving us ourvoice and for supporting us by
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listening to this episode.
I hope you were able to feel thelove, the support, and just the
genuine connection from each oneof us.
This was truly a gift to recordwith these four other beautiful
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ladies and to get to meet themin person there were 70 of us
total there.
I'm gonna tell you guys, we leftfeeling like we had known each
other all of our lives.
And it's truly just the power ofjust saying yes to yourself.
There is so, so much goodnesswhen you can connect and
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surround yourself with justbeautiful humans that wanna see
you grow and wanna celebrateyou.
Saying yes to myself and reallyjust stepping into the power of
it was truly a transformationaljourney for me.
So I hope that you, you getsomething out of this I will
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leave all of the other beautifulguests.
All their information in theshow notes.
And I wanna say a big thanks toChristine for leading this and
just, you know, it's just sopowerful to be surrounded by
beautiful women who just wannaconnect and love and support
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each other.
And we all got to do that andsay yes to ourselves.
So today.
If you don't have a community,if you don't have somebody or
something in, this just touchedme, reach out to me and I would
love to connect you to any ofthese beautiful ladies, to any
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of my mentors so you can startstepping in and fully saying yes
to yourself.
Thank you for tuning intoanother episode.
I hope today's story inspiredyou to embrace your own journey
of growth and change.
Remember, transformation isn'talways easy, but it's always
worth it.
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Hey friends.
Welcome to the Enter Sparkpodcast.
I'm your host, Casey Caton.
If you're looking to hearstories of transformation and
personal growth, this podcast isfor you.
My guest and I will be sharingthose sparking moments that has
changed the mental living a morefulfilling authentic life.
I'm so excited for you to heareach unique story.
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So sit back, relax, and let'sget started.
Hey, fan.
Welcome back to the Enter Sparkpodcast and this special
episode.
It's all about saying yes toyourself.
This episode is so special asnot only did I say yes to Kathy
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Heller's Infinite yes retreat inBoca Ratan, Florida.
All these ladies did as well.
This episode is a truereflection of what it's like to
be connected.
To so many beautiful souls.
You'll hear powerful reflectionsas to what different parts of
the retreat meant to each of usand how it continues to live on
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with us daily.
From laughter to tears, to fallon celebrating each other.
I hope you listen with curiosityand ask yourself.
If you have powerful friendswalking along your journey with
you, and if not, this is a greatepisode to know it's possible
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for you as well.
In this episode, Christine willbe guiding us through all the
beautiful questions and I amalso with four other ladies.
I shabana Christine and Terry.
(01:55):
We're just gonna dive in and Ihope you sit back, relax.
And just fill the magic that wewere able to fill and still can
fill when we talk about it.
There are five of us who havegathered together because we all
went on a retreat together inBoca Raton, Florida, and we are
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still living on the high that wegot from being in each other's
energy.
And from witnessing so muchgrowth, having such aligned and
beautiful conversations andtransformations, and we just
wanted to have a conversationabout all of that beauty that we
experienced together.
On today's episode, I am goingto be leading you through some q
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and a and some reflections.
I am Christine Marcario.
Host of the podcast aligned andabundant.
I'm also a life coach and I leadworkshops on a regular basis as
well as one-on-one and groupcoaching, and I'd like every one
of the other ladies to spend aminute introducing themselves.
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Hi, I am Casey.
I'm from Kansas and I am thehost of the Enter Spark podcast
and I run a local organization,little Moments, big Dreams,
celebrations.
Doing parties for kids in thehospital, and I also have a
community as well.
And I am Christina Summers.
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I am the podcast host of LovingYour Life Again.
I'm a breathwork facilitator,somatic coach, and money mentor,
really helping women stopoutsourcing their power and
reclaim safety in both theirbodies and their bank accounts.
Hi, I am Shabana Knight.
I'm a mother.
I have three kids.
I just started a new podcast.
(03:42):
It's called Organized ChaosStories with Shabana.
I'd love for you to check itout, and I'm in Washington state
and lots of other amazing thingsyou get to hear.
Hi, I'm Teri.
I live in Virginia Beach.
I'm a mom and grandma and greatgrandma, and I don't have a
podcast yet.
I am the maker of all the cute,cozy crochet on watermelon tree
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design.
I hope you take a look.
I love that.
And with that, we are going tohave all of our links and
offerings in the show notes nomatter what platform or whose
podcast you're listening to thison.
And I also just wanna say thatit is really amazing that we are
all from all over the place,which is really beautiful
because we were able to connect,because we were brought together
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through a community.
We all decided to say yes to theinfinite Yes retreat hosted by
Kathy Heller, who is a dearmentor to all of us.
And really we have gotten toknow each other not only by
attending this retreat, but infacing different obstacles and
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overcoming those obstacles andfinding uniformity in just
really championing other womenand helping each other.
Process through anything thatcomes up along our path towards
really trying to make our dreamsa reality.
And so I would love to go aroundand see who is willing to answer
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the question of what made yousay yes to coming on this
retreat.
I know that for me it was adefinite yes, because this was
my second retreat with KathyHeller.
I went on my first retreat inMarch.
And I flew out to LA Solo bymyself, and then I explored la,
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which was also crazy to mebecause they have cars that
drive around with no driver.
I literally did a double takeand I was like, wait, what?
And no, I'm not getting in thatcar.
Everyone else can, but not me.
And so the bottom line is youexperience such.
Transformation not only inyourself, but in group healing.
And you're exposed to so manywomen who have such wisdom and
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insight, and we learn.
It's like reading a book.
You learn through someone else'sexperience, someone else's
wisdom, someone else's share,and the energy and love that you
feel at one of these retreats isjust life.
Changing, and I cannot speakhighly enough of the experience
because you're in a room withlike-minded people and it's just
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so beautiful.
So I'm curious to see what madeeach of you or whoever's willing
to share say Yes to coming onthis retreat.
Terry, you're up first.
I went to the first retreat atthe end of March with you at
Bloom, and that was a whole newexperience.
I'd never experienced anythinglike that before, and it put a
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little crack in the armor.
So when this one came about, itwas like, oh yeah, I'm all the
way in on this one because.
There's just too much goodnesshappening to pass it up.
And I wanna say real quick, whenI walked into the room, you were
the first one that jumped up andgave me the biggest hug, and we
became fast friends because ofan activity that we were paired
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up together to do at the firstretreat, which was amazing.
Right?
That was a good one.
Yes.
Yes, Christina.
Yeah, so I've been in Kathy'sworld for some time, but was
really like hiding in plainsight the entire time.
It was like just watchingeverything was going on and
soaking up all the energy.
And I decided in 2025, this isthe year, this is the year that
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I'm gonna go.
'cause I've always seen thepromotions for him and I'm like,
I really wanna go, but I'd havethe excuse, whatever the excuse
was, and you know.
They're based in reality, butthey really are just those
excuses.
So it was like, okay, this isthe year I have decided I am
gonna make it work and find away, and it's time to get outta
my comfort zone and stop hidingin clean sight and start really
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doing the work that I'm leadingother people with.
And I think that even thoughyou're saying you were hiding in
plain sight, I know that I sawyou, you know, I saw you on
camera.
I saw the growth.
I saw the progress.
So now when I'm seeing youoffering things and showing up
fully as yourself, you weren'thiding in plain sight.
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You were doing the work, but youwere keeping quiet about it, but
you were definitely doing it,Christina.
Casey, I wanna say I agree withwhat you say about Christina.
You have definitely been seenand so it's just so exciting to
see you on camera, like justglowing and to see you in
person.
I said yes.
I went to Kathy Hiller'spodcasting Summit and I wanted
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to, it was amazing.
Oh man, I think there was like300 women at it and I wanted to
experience the more intimate.
That everybody had talked aboutwhen they got back from Bloom.
So I was like, yes, I am in forthis.
Like if 300 women can beamazing, what can it be like
when we get even like justcloser and closer and closer and
feel the love of everybody inthere?
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And I think that is somethingthat you definitely experience
because it's almost like nomatter how many women are there,
there's something about like themagnetic draw of the right
people.
You know, you can walk in andnot know a single person like I
did for the first one.
Like yes, there are people thatI recognize from our Zoom calls,
but I really didn't know anybodyand yet I felt so much love and
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so safe, and that was.
One of the draws that brought meback to the second one.
So it's just really such abeautiful, beautiful invitation
to be around like-minded womenwho want to just raise not only
themselves up, but everyone inthe room.
Like there's no sense of likecompetition.
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Like I've never felt that inthis community, and that's why I
keep coming back, honestly.
Now I'd like to dive into wasthere a particular moment where
you realized.
This is exactly where I'm meantto be.
Christina.
Yeah, I'll share.
It's funny that this question ishere because I don't remember
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the exact time moment, but Iremember the feeling of when I
first walked in the place wasjust so grand and so beautiful,
and so like something I've neverexperienced before.
And though I was trying to stayin my body and stay in like
confidence and like when youwalked into the room, you felt
the love and you're like, okay,I'm welcome here.
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But I think it was on the secondday when I was walking back into
the retreat center, I'm like,you know what?
I do belong here.
This is the place for me.
Because it just felt so naturaland so home, especially like the
place was so big, it was like,am I gonna get lost in here?
And then.
As we continued to navigatethrough the weekend, it was
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like, I know exactly where I'mat, and like it was no problem.
I'm like, this feels like home.
This feels comfortable.
This feels expansive and sodelicious.
So I'm so grateful for allowingmyself to experience that.
That's beautiful.
And I, I can understand whatyou're saying because when you
pull up, it's like this ambianceof like.
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Luxury and amazingness.
And you know, that was one of mytakeaways too, because we're
constantly trying to work onbringing in abundance and
fulfilling like our self-worth.
And the same, I was like, I fitright in here.
You know, like emotionally like,right.
I'm like, I fit right in here.
And so it was just such abeautiful experience because you
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don't know how you're gonna feeluntil you show up.
And then when you just.
Open and expand your heart andyour willingness to grow into
the most amazing, deliciousversion of yourself.
Who is there waiting.
It's just so expansive and sobeautiful.
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Moving on, what part of theretreat experience impacted you
the most and why?
I'll speak first and I will justsay.
There is a moment, or rather anactivity that we all do at the
very end, and I won't go intotoo much detail because perhaps
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one of the other women wannachime in to it.
But it is just such an amazingexperience where we all do an
activity together.
And in that activity.
The hearts that are open and theemotions that are flowing.
I mean, the tissue boxes are onhand and there are so many women
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that are crying because they arereceiving the healing that they
need.
And there's something beautifulabout group healing because if
something.
Is being healed in someone elsethat reflects a pain point in
you.
You are all healing together andthat's what this retreat gave us
the opportunity to do.
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Casey, I think that what yousaid right there was one of the
most powerful moments, but Ithink another really like.
A just powerful moment for mewas when we did the exercise
where we held someone's hand andI got to hold your hand and the
experience was so emotional andso like just the exchange of
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tears and smiles of staring intosomeone else's eyes and feeling
the open-hearted love of howcapable we are to love each
other and to receive that backit, it was just.
Yeah, I'm gonna get Sarahtalking about it.
Sorry.
It was just a magical moment forme.
Yeah.
Aw.
And I love that so much becauseyou know what it is, it's like
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in that moment, like I saw youand all the potential that you
have that maybe you don't see inyourself quite yet.
And then it was reflected backand, and back and back and forth
and back and forth and.
And it's also funny because youstay in it to the point of
discomfort and then it's like itexpands and explodes in a point
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where it's almost like you don'twanna let go, and it's amazing.
And that's again, just anotherreason why saying yes to going
on this retreat was just ano-brainer for any of us.
You know, Terry, I can relate toboth of those incidences.
It made me feel like.
I wasn't the only oneexperiencing those inner
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turmoils, and we all do it.
We all have that, those samefeelings, and it was just mind
opening that I'm not the onlyone.
It's not just me.
Everybody's going through thesame thing and we all come out
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better on the other end forsharing it with everybody else.
Go ahead, Shabana.
I think the whole weekend wasimpactful, but something that
was really impactful for me waswhen we were doing the yoga back
in July, I had to hurt my backand so I was just choosing to
just lay on the mat, but I feellike it was the most.
Amount of yoga I've done in mylife by laying there on the mat
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and just receiving all thesedownloads and healing and like I
cried so much.
I felt so much, it was like thebest yoga experience I've ever
had.
And I like did not even move.
So it was like, I felt like itwas working on my soul.
The lady who led it was amazing.
So that was like one of the mostimpactful part of my weekend
was.
The non yoga, but the yogaChristina.
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Yeah.
So it's funny how you canreflect back and relate to every
single one of these moments thatyou shared.
And really when I talk about it,it was not just one particular
moment, but how each one builtupon each other and it was like
this golden thread that was.
Woven throughout the entireweekend.
So like from that first activityof what are you a yes for?
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And where we partnered up and wereally had to come from our soul
and partnered up.
And if, if it's not coming fromthe soul, stop'em gently and
say, start again.
And say, start again.
And I found when I was partneredwith who I was partnered with,
it was very easy for me togently say, start again.
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And I thought I was good.
And then I went to go start, andI'm like, Ooh, I'm in my mind.
And I caught myself, but I waskind of hoping that she wouldn't
see it, but she's also a verygood coach.
So she saw it and she called meout on it.
But then each activity builtupon that.
So that final activity where wewere walking out.
As our old selves and walkingback in, it was like I fully
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embodied that, who I may yesfor, and it just flowed.
There was no pausing.
There was no stopping.
There was.
She was just there and shearrived and she was allowed to
show up as her in a safe way.
And that is so amazing.
So for the listeners, each andevery single one of the women
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who were there, and I thinkthere was roughly 70 people, had
to go out into the hallway andleave behind the past version of
themself and enter the room witheverybody watching and cheering
you on with.
Amazing music playing, and youstepped in as your 2.0 version
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of yourself, and you did not getout of that hallway until the
coach that you were paired withsaw that you met business.
And I know for me, Jennifer Listdid not let me pass, go easily
because I had to say and releasesome stuff.
And once she truly saw it in myeyes that I was ready.
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I stepped out and walked downand you get in your head a
little bit in the moment, butthen you walk in and at first I
walked in a little bit shy, andthen something in me just like
clicked.
And I think that was probablythe moment for me.
Like something just clicked,like, holy, this is gonna be
epic, this new chapter.
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And I'm so excited to ride thiswave and see where it goes.
Moving on a little bit deeper,did you find yourself reflected
in someone else's story orsomeone else's energy?
I feel like we've already tappedupon that a little bit, but does
anyone have a story in whichthey'd wanna share where they
felt an experience or aconnection that they didn't even
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know they needed while they werethere in person?
Christina?
Yeah, so I think.
No, we've tapped on it.
It was very much, you could feelyourself whether the details of
the story were different, butyet you felt the alignment with
it and you could relate to insome form or fashion.
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But I remember when Tracy Litwas presenting and somebody
stood up and she was like, Icall bs.
And I wasn't really feeling thatin the moment.
But it lit something inside usto say how bold she is and then
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how gracious how to witnesssomebody who's actually in the
work doing the work, practicingwhat she teaches, to be able to
hold her in that and watchthose.
Dissolve and she did it personafter person, after person.
Like I found a little bit ofmyself in each person who shared
a bit of their story, thatagain, the details were
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different, but the energy, thefeelings, the sensations were
the same.
And while Tracy was holding herin it, she was holding me in it
as well to allow some of thosetensions, those resistances, to
soften and float away.
That's such a beautifulreflection because yes, Tracy
Lit was amazing at hearing whatthe person needed and holding
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space for them, and I almostfelt like we were on bated
breath at some points.
Like we were all holding spaceas like.
Particular women were like goingthrough major life changing
transformations before our eyes.
It was truly such an amazingexperience that I know I will, I
will definitely remember becauseit was so impactful.
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For sure.
Casey, you have something toadd?
Yeah, I just wanna kind of playoff what you said.
Just the feeling of being ableto truly connect, even if that
story wasn't ours.
And just holding space and alsojust like being able to relate
it to yourself in a way and justfully allowing yourself, like we
shed tears and then we likewould just die laughing at, you
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know, what would come out of it.
And I think it was just so, sopowerful that.
You can hold space for someoneand allow it like, oh, okay,
this relates to me in my life,and you know, shed those tears
along with them and as you'reholding space, and then just
like celebrate it all together.
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Yeah.
I think it goes back to thecomponent of like group healing.
Like anything that was reflectedin any of those particular brave
women who raised their hand andwere vulnerable in front of us,
it definitely healed.
All of us, or any part of usthat needed that same healing.
And that's the beauty of, again,being in such a space that
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really unifies all of us.
So that's a nice segue into hasthe retreat changed how you see
yourself, your life path, or howyou're handling your offerings,
or how you show up for yourselfevery day.
I'd love to hear some of thetakeaways in which this retreat
has affected you personally,whether it's you personally, or
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your business.
Harry, I get emotional.
I'm not one to stick my face outthere, and you all saw that that
weekend, and Jennifer Lis mademe, it was a, it was a challenge
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that she gave me and I met thechallenge and I know that I'm
worthy.
What I have is good.
And everybody else needs to seethat too.
And if I don't show myself,nobody knows.
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So I feel that, I think thatprobably happened for a lot of
people that you finally said yesto yourself so you could show
yourself to the world.
Yeah, I totally hear that.
And I had said to Shabana at onepoint during the retreat, I
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said, I wish we could just likelive here in this energy because
we'd all be like millionairesand billionaires by now.
Because the energy that you havein this container is just so
like fire.
It's just so alive.
And Terry to witness you get onstage in front of everybody.
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Speak and oh my God, you were soin your power.
I mean, you were amazing.
Amazing.
I said, yes.
And when I went out in thathallway for our last little
Leave yourself behind, Jenniferwas my coach in the hallway, and
she looked at me and said, go.
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She knew.
She, she knew.
I love that.
I love that so much.
And not only that, you brought agift for all of us.
That was the fun part.
This goes to show how much likewe all think about one another,
and so people we don't evenknow.
Yes.
Because it's almost like we havethis sisterhood, we have this
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deep bond, and it's like meetinglike a long lost family member
that you can feel the resonanceand you can pick up on their
energy.
And then when you finally meeteach other in person, like you
already feel like you know them.
You know?
Right.
And so there was no coincidencethat we all ended up on this
retreat together, that we're allon this podcast together, and
it's just so beautiful.
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Shaana, go ahead.
I think it's just important to.
Just always, every now and thenjust to be in that energy,
whether it's on our, like weeklycalls or at a retreat every
couple months or whatever,because it's really there where
I personally feel like I receiveso many downloads and insights
and I take care of myself.
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I, I get to detach from mom modeand work mode and stuff and get
like literally like filled backup so I can pour back out.
And just how important it is.
Also, just to have amazing womenwho have gone before us to show
us an example of what's trulypossible.
Like Tracy's energy was amazing.
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Everybody who came was amazing.
Kathy obviously, but just.
To be there with all you guysand receive all this energy and
then be able to go home and pourthat back into myself and my
family and my business.
Just yesterday, our furnacedecided to stop working.
So it's like, all right, how doI stay positive in this
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wonderful situation?
And so it's just like, what?
Like just like a regrounding oflike, okay.
What, what's in my control?
What phone calls do I need tomake?
And then today's been just somany ups and downs with
scheduling and kids and whatnot,and it's Monday, but it's like,
okay, but I'm gonna choose toget on this call.
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And this is, this is great.
I get to hang out with myfriends and talk and share this
love and light with the world.
So just regardless of the crazy.
All this community and theseactivities and stuff is, it's
such an anchor in my life and Ijust, I appreciate all that,
Christina.
Yeah, so one of the things thatcomes back to me is anytime the
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stickiness of life being lifey,of just the responsibilities,
trying to juggle multiplethings, and when you start to
feel that sense of overwhelm orthat sense of just.
Falling back into old patterns.
Remembering to pause and say, Iget choice.
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I get to choose how I want toshow up.
Do I want to choose to continueto be that 2.0 version of myself
continuing to pull her in andbecome like, stay her, become
her, evolve through her, or do Iwanna fall back into old
patterns and behaviors?
And really throughout theweekend, having the moments of
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teaching and then integrationand teaching and integration and
teaching.
So we were really able to likeembody, not just learn, not just
feel the energy, both are great,but then really integrate
everything that we were doing.
I feel like it has been fullyembodied, so now I'm much more
aware of when things get sticky.
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Do I wanna stay in thestickiness?
Sometimes we might, and that'sokay as long as we don't choose
to stay there.
But then taking that next stepforward and what, what would
feel really good to my soulright now?
What is, what is my body askingfor?
What do I need to do next?
And if that's rest, or if that'sstepping out of your comfort
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zone because you might wannafeel like you need rest because
you need to make a conversationthat you don't wanna have or
take an action that you don'twant to take.
So really being able to.
See more clearly those things asthey arise and being able to
live as her and not the oldversion.
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Casey, I think one of thebiggest things for me is when
Susie Moore was on and she justsays No, and I've heard her
podcast, I've heard her oncalls, but the power of being in
her presence and her just beinglike.
No, and I, I wish I could do itin her accent because it just
makes it even more powerful.
But her just like setting upthere and being like, I can say
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no to my friends to dinner andnot feel guilty.
I can say no and look at myschedule and just say no, and
there's no explanation needed.
And to me that was like, okay, Ithought I was saying no, but my
days get so booked.
And I was like, I'm not sayingno to the things that don't feel
aligned with me.
And so that was really powerfulfor me is to.
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And just say no.
And then even practice it therewith people like, no, I don't
wanna do that, or, no, I don'twanna go to dinner tonight.
And so, yeah, I think that wasone of the really big things.
That's amazing.
And honestly, the power of no isso important to honor your
energy, your space.
And I wanna circle back to whatChristina was saying because I
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feel like.
As women who are all eitherrunning or growing their own
business.
Sometimes we get caught up inthe go, go, go, but sometimes
the next aligned step is rest.
And so it's so important tohonor what we're being guided to
do.
There's nothing lazy aboutgiving your body.
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The rest that it needs.
In fact, you're just rechargingyour battery, you're getting
your headspace back together.
You are just realigning, andthere's nothing wrong with that.
So I think that's such abeautiful thing to remember is
that rest is okay.
We are not machines, we are notrobots.
We are not designed to go 24 7,and we all have obstacles that
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we're overcoming or maybeovercoming physically also or
emotionally, like everyone has.
Baggage like in this lifetime,no one came with a free and
clear pathway, and so we're alljust here together.
Really just lifting each otherup and making that baggage
lighter or helping take it awayand putting it on the belt and
it goes and gets loaded offsomewhere else because it's
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just, it's so transformationalfor us to all be in this space
together and witness the growththat comes with championing each
other on.
If you were to relive one momentfrom the retreat, which one
would be your favorite moment torelive?
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I know for me, one of the bestmoments was walking in and just.
Seeing so many people that Ihave seen on camera and just be
in everyone's presence becauseeveryone just felt so alive, so
excited, and if anyone wasfeeling nervous, it was almost
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like it wasn't there.
It was beautiful.
And also on this particularretreat, I was just so amazed at
the knowledge that the guestspeakers had.
They were just such powerfulwomen, none of which I had ever
been exposed to before, and Iknow that baffles some people.
But yeah, I had never heard ofany of these women.
And then I instantly becamelike, okay, follow, follow.
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Listen here, do this, do that.
I was like, sold.
I'm like, sold, sold, sold.
Because you.
Take what you can from the womenwho have cleared the path before
you and when they say you can doit.
I mean, that means somethingthat that's gold right there in,
in its weight, you know?
So that for me was likeabsolutely amazing.
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And also to see like theauthenticity and the, like the
real person, like when you're ina group of women and people let
their hair down and they sharethe vulnerable stories or the.
Obstacles that they had toovercome to get where, or even
the struggles that they stillhave as in our eyes, someone
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famous, you know, they, whenthey share those struggles, I
mean, it's just, it just showsthat we're all human, you know?
And we're all these beautifulsouls having these human
experiences together, Shabana.
I mean other than just relivingthe whole weekend away, there's
all that.
But I know this is kind ofsilly, but I would like love to
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just have all the lunches again,I didn't have to make it.
I didn't have to clean up afterit.
I could fully enjoy it.
I got to connect with women.
I got to then take a break andlike go walk on the beach one
day during lunch.
Like that was just so luxurious.
Just to be in that energy, thatfood, just everything.
Yeah, like all the meals so Idon't have to cook.
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Well, I love that because ifanyone knows me, I do not like
grocery shopping or cooking.
I like eating.
All right.
Does anyone else have a momentthat they wish they could relive
again, Casey, I think when wewere going to leave the last day
when we just all danced ourhearts out and celebrated each
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other.
The power of that and the powerof everybody just like hugging
each other.
At the end, it was like, we alljust did this together and it's
like, what's next?
Now we got to see everybody walkout or like come in those doors,
like come in as somebody andthen like fully experience all
their emotions and then come inas like a new person when they
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walk through those doors thefinal day and then just dance
and celebrate the heck out ofeach other.
And then that just group hug atthe end was like.
Let's just stay in this energyand just like light the heck up
out of each other and justcelebrate each other so, so big
because we are all so freakingworthy of everything we want in
our lives.
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I receive that wholeheartedly.
Christina?
Yes.
All that you just said, and Iagree with you Shabana too, of
not having to worry about thelogistics and Christine not
having to go grocery shoppingand do the cooking, and just
those things that take so muchtime.
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When we can actually sit down toenjoy it and have like community
and fellowship.
But I think for me what wasarising is the meditation on the
beach, being able to sit on thebeach and having the ocean waves
after.
And all of us experiencing thesame thing at the same time.
And the getting up and thedancing on the beach at the same
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afterwards and then taking thatwith me.
'cause I remember this wasn'tlike specifically at the
retreat, but shortly thereafterwhen I was going back to my room
to freshen up and.
Deciding on what I was gonna dofor that night.
And I saw you and Shabana in thehotel lobby, and it's funny, I
had doing self parking and I waslike, you know what?
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I've been on my feet all day.
I'm gonna ask to upgrade tovalet.
I'm worthy of it.
So had I not done that, Iprobably would've never seen you
guys at the front desk and then.
They offered you guys like somekind of free thing, and then I
found my voice and I'm like,well, if they can get that, can
I get that too?
So then even just finding thatvoice and taking that with me in
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my everyday of like, you knowwhat, let me start asking.
Let me start asking and it wasjust so empowering to be able to
continue to live that and walkit out.
But yeah, the meditation on thebeach, if I could do that every
day, I love listening to the subof the ocean in the background
of everything.
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So many things there becauseone, just imagine 70 women
getting shuttled over to abeach.
So we filled two shuttle busesand so that was just so much
fun.
Like we were going on a fieldtrip because you know, when
you're a kid, sometimes the carride was like the highlight of
the trip because you're all inthe car.
And that's not the case here,but that's what it reminded me
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of when I was in Girl Scouts.
Like the, the car ride wasalways so much fun.
And so that was such a beautifulexperience, but.
Shabana also has a way of.
Looking through a differentlens.
And so when we got to the hotel,and this was a, a different
hotel that we were staying atbesides where the retreat was
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held.
And she was like, well, whyshould we pay for parking?
And so she just asked.
And then Christina happened tobe there and she's like, well,
if they're not gonna pay forparking, why am I paying for
parking?
And so it was such a beautifulexperience.
So it was really, really cool.
You know when you have a voiceand you have the courage to
speak up and ask like, why not?
You know, why not?
'cause you don't know how you'regonna be responded to.
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All right, Terry, do you wannachime in?
I think my biggest takeaway wasthe soul connection with
everybody there.
Even if I didn't really have aone-on-one conversation with
those people, I can see theirpicture or they'll be in a group
and I see them and it's like,oh, they were at the retreat.
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And you have a little soulconnection with them because of
what we've all went throughtogether and the emotions that
we shared.
So that was the big takeaway forme, Jovanna.
I think again, just exactly whatTerry said, like that soul
connection, because I know forme there was a period in my
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adult life where I had kids, butI didn't have like friends and I
didn't have like good qualityfriendships and I felt like I
was putting myself out there,but there was never, like, there
was a period of a couple yearswhere I never, I was like, I
remember talking to my mentor,another lady, and I was like.
Julie.
I just want friends.
Like I want friends my age andmy stage of life going through
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what I'm going through.
We have goals and vision and allthis stuff, and like, she's
like, just pray.
They'll come like, just bepatient.
It's, it's gonna happen kind ofthing.
And.
The more that I'm in thispersonal development space, the
more amazing friendships come upand like Terry's a lot older,
but we can connect and then Ican connect with Christina and
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Christine and Casey and like allthese other amazing women, even
though they live in differentparts of the US or the world.
I mean, we have a friends inAustralia because of this group.
It's just amazing the women youmeet.
How like these relationships areso fulfilling and so nourishing.
So like after this call I canjump back into mom mode and feel
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energized and alive.
And I know these relationshipswouldn't happen if I hadn't
taken the time to work on myselfand go to these retreats and do
X, Y, and Z.
Like, you gotta put yourself outthere if you want friendships.
'cause we all deserve to havegood friendships.
Totally.
And it's not even just aboutlike.
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Being happy all the time either.
There have been plenty of timeswhere, you know, I've reached
out to Shabana and I'm like, I'memotionally spent today.
Like, gimme a pep talk.
You know what I mean?
And she'll be able to like, turnthe page for me, or, you know, I
look at just witnessing thegrowth that each of you have and
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or are going through.
Like Terry, when I see yourcrochet, like I, I told you when
I was at the retreat, I waslike, I love these little
pumpkins that you have right nowbecause.
Halloween in October is myfavorite month, and I was like,
this is an amazing, cute littleproduct.
And so every one of us just hassomething that I think resonates
within each of us, and we allare working in different
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capacities and giving love,whether it's through a physical
product.
Or Casey filling up that snackcart for the parents of the
children who are undergoingtreatment.
Christina, you're doing amazingwork with coaching and getting
yourself out there.
You just offered an amazingworkshop last week, which I'm
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personally hoping that you'regoing to.
Offer again.
And I just think that there's somuch beauty in you just don't
know who's gonna inspire you.
Like, I'm not gonna say nameshere right now, but there was
like an older woman in herseventies who was there and I
really connected with her.
And age is just, it's just anumber.
Some of my best friends areolder than me, and you know why
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I love that?
Because they have.
Experience.
Like I can learn from that and Imight have someone who looks up
to me who's, you know, 10, 15years younger than me because
we're all in this together.
And I think that's where thebeauty lies, because it's like
age how you look.
All that just falls to thewayside because we're looking at
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each other as souls.
Like we are feeling each other'shearts, our energy, our purpose,
and that is just like, I justgot chills.
Like that's where the magic is.
In this community and going on aretreat where you get to spend
time with each other.
And you know, I, I was sayingthat like I feel like five days
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would be even better, but I'lltell you, like, while this all
sounds amazing and fun, at theend of the day you are exhausted
because you are taking in somuch and it's so much goodness.
But it can also be like a bit oflike.
Sensory and emotional overload.
So I'm curious, is there apractice or a mantra that you
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have picked up and that you useas a daily or weekly practice
that you have incorporated intoyour life as a result of either
attending this retreat or theBloom retreat or being in this
community?
I'd love to hear it.
Shabana.
So at the end of this retreat,one of the participants led a
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calligraphy workshop.
Shout out to Angie, but thatreally calls me to slow down.
So I haven't necessarily donecalligraphy since the retreat,
but I've been learning to slowdown and start coloring and it's
been so good.
'cause I'm such a go, go, goperson.
So just slowing down and.
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Just settling and then I'm readyfor the next thing.
So it's more of like arts andcrafts I'm jumping into and it
feels so good for my soul,Casey.
And then Christina, I wannafollow what Shabana just said
because I got so nervous atfirst I, when we were doing it,
I could feel like theperfectionism coming out in me
instead of like not allowingmyself to have fun.
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And the other thing is I wroteopen heart down as my word and.
I didn't even think about it.
And later I came home into apost-it note and open is the
word of, I chose the word of theear and open is the word of my
ear that is stuck right here.
And I was like, oh, of course.
But I agree.
It has like really just made methink you can draw, you can
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write things down and it cancalm your body and it can also
be so fun.
And I just wanna follow up onthat'cause it was so powerful
for me.
Just to take that away.
Yeah, I loved that activity too.
And though now I need toremember to go back and bring
out my coloring and getting thatarts and crafts on because how
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much it does allow you to slowdown a mantra that I've
developed over the years.
It's really been since I've beenin Kathy's world in this
personal development journey.
Not so much from this retreat,but I think it really ties into,
'cause my word for thecalligraphy was the same word
for my year as freedom.
And this mantra is.
One day, one moment, one breathat a time.
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And growing up my dad was analcoholic, so I was an Al-Anon
and ine.
And when I was really in myhealing journey, which is where
I started my personaldevelopment one day at a time,
really felt like too muchsometimes.
So then I focused on the momentand then when I learned breath
work, which I found breath workthrough Kathy, one of Kathy's
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friends, mentors, partners.
People that she hangs with,really the power of your breath.
So I'm like, sometimes even themoment is too much and can we
come back to the breath?
And if you can come back to thebreath, you can come back to
everything and you can getthrough it one step at a time.
Oh my God, that is so amazingthat you shared that, and I'm
glad that you were vulnerableenough to share that.
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And I love how it also ties intoyour business name, breadth of
renewal, because that to mespeaks volumes as to the
authenticity.
The love and the intention thatyou have behind your practice
and your business, so kudos.
Christina.
You've come a long way, myfriend Terry.
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I can relate to all of that as atype A perfectionist.
Sometimes what can be fun isn'treally fun because I have to
make it.
Perfect.
So I get into the breath workand chant at myself.
This is fun.
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This is supposed to be fun.
This is supposed to be fun untilit's fun again.
And I did buy my a hundred boxof colored pencils last week so
I could continue coloringbecause my colored pencils were
running out.
It's funny how we all love tocolor.
It's so amazing how manytakeaways that we each have.
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And I think for me, one of thethings that I really hone in on
is Kathy always tells us we arenot someone.
We are some of the one.
And that is what came throughfor me, the loudest when we were
all doing that ending activitythat we started this
conversation talking about.
So basically.
I don't wanna give too muchaway, but we're each downloaded,
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right?
We each go inward to our selfand we take a phrase that we
need to hear and then we shareit in a unique way with every
woman who's there.
And that, for me, just reallylike solidified that experience
because what I had come throughfor me.
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Helped so many other women andvice versa.
And it just went on and it wenton like a waterfall.
Like it just kept coming and itwas just such an expansive
experience that I know, like I,I personally love that so much.
Like if I could relive thatevery day, it would be amazing
to have that like Jiminy Cricketin your ear who's like, this is
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what you need to know, you know?
One other thing I really likeabout these type of retreats is
that it's not a competition,it's a collaboration where
like-minded women come together,learn, grow, explore, and then
we go back to our normal lives,not in retreat mode.
We can keep growing andexpanding and encouraging and
(46:58):
loving each other from afar, butyou get that in-person hug and
just all the details, but justlike it's not a competition,
it's a collaboration, and Ithink that's just so important
to remember.
Casey, for my parting words, Ijust wanna say, first of all, I
love all of you.
I think you've all made animpact in my life, but for
anybody out there listening,just be you like authentically
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you.
That's when you're gonna findand connect with people on a
whole nother level, and you'llfind your people.
That's definitely great advicebecause at the end of the day,
people connect withauthenticity.
So stop the people pleasing.
Stop acting.
As if you're trying to convincesomeone.
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People love authenticity, andpeople can spot in authenticity
a mile away.
They can read your energy themoment you walk into the room,
and I think that's what's soimportant.
And again, that's what.
A retreat such as this or aperson like a, a leader, Kathy
Heller, you know, alone justinspires all of us to put our
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hair down and show up as is.
And I think that's why we allwere able and continue to have
such a deep connection with oneanother, because again, we're
not just.
You're not worried about who thecool kid is because we're all
the cool kid in this community.
We're all the cool kid, and forsome of us that's healing
childhood wounds right there.
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And then we're just turning intothese beautiful new versions of
ourselves and it's just sofreaking amazing.
Christina?
Yeah, so building on theauthenticity, something that
Kathy really gave permission forthroughout all of her teaching
is.
Being you and setting down thatpeople pleaser.
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And really, because when you'repeople pleasing, people really
aren't liking you.
'cause they don't know you.
You're not being you.
And really going back to thebeginning of allowing myself to
be seen, even though I was beingseen all along, I thought I was
hiding.
I was keeping myself safe, butreally allow yourself to be seen
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because your best friend mightbe right next to you.
But if you're not allowingyourself to be seen and you're
not being your authentic you,you'll never know.
And then lastly, when you gofirst, you give permission to
everybody else around you.
So if we're all staying in thispeople pleasing mode and trying
to fit this box, that societytells us that we need to fit in.
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We're really all conforming tosomething that we're not really.
So when you go first, you reallygive permission to the woman
next to you who then can givepermission.
And then we're all actuallybeing who we were created to be.
And we're being, and we're notdoing, you know, we're being
Terri.
I think the last thing I wannasay is if you have an
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opportunity to go on one ofKathy's retreats, go.
Your heart will tell you yes.
Your head will tell you, oh no,I can't afford it.
It's too far away.
I don't have a babysitter who'sgonna cook for the kids?
The cat needs to be let out.
The dog needs to be taken careof.
But guess what?
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It'll all get taken care of andyou need to go.
Don't let your brain talk youout of it.
I couldn't agree more.
Let the heart lead.
I wanna firsthand say that thisconversation has been so
beautiful.
I'm so thankful for Casey forcoming up with this amazing idea
and then we just rolled with it.
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We all said yes again, andthat's the power of this
wonderful group of women.
I love where we're going.
I love all of the amazing thingsthat are unfolding for us and
you know, real talk like.
Our lives aren't perfect.
There are obstacles.
There are things that we havegoing on in our day to day
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furnaces breaking all thethings, but we keep showing up
and we keep showing up forourselves first and foremost.
And then, like Christina said,when we show up for ourselves,
it gives permission to thewoman.
Who is listening to this, to thewoman who is witnessing you come
alive as you sell your productor share your experience, and
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it's just the most beautiful.
There's like almost no words.
It's just the most beautiful,expansive opportunity.
Like I revolve my weeks aroundwhen, when our calls are, you
know, because like it's like thehighlight of my day some days
because you just walk awayfeeling so energized, so loved,
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so seen or hidden, but alsoseen, you know, at the same
time.
And yeah.
It's so funny because like Ihad.
Just to end on a funny note,like, yeah, I had someone come
up to me and I was like, oh myGod, you're Christine.
I had to meet Christine and I'mlike.
I don't even know who you are,but okay, now let me get to know
you.
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Like it was really cool.
I was like, oh, okay.
Like this girl's seen me andit's so funny because there are
people on screen who I'm like,oh yes, so and so always wears
the pink.
I love that.
Oh my God, her hair always looksso amazing.
I love her energy.
I love her spirit.
I love when she raises her hand,and it's just such an empowering
and amazing community, and Ihighly recommend that you get
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yourself.
A community, get yourself a lifecoach.
Because I'm 42 years old and Ijust got myself a life coach
this past year, and honestly, itwas the best investment in
myself because I am not the sameperson who started this year off
in January of 2025.
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I am a whole different person.
Like still, you know me to thecore, but like the
expansiveness.
Is amazing and I suspect thatthat's true for all of us on
this call, and it's so possiblefor all of our listeners.
For sure.
So I wanna thank you so much fortuning in to today's episode.
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No matter where you're listeningor what podcast you're listening
to this on, I hope that you takesomething away from this and it
would be.
So amazing if we were to see youat one of Kathy Heller's Next
retreats.
No matter where our paths cross,I hope that you were able to
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listen to the authenticity andthe wholeheartedness of the
women on this.
Call and I hope that you wereable to take something away and
bring it to how you move throughthe day.
So we all wanna leave you withso much love and light, and
thank you for giving us ourvoice and for supporting us by
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listening to this episode.
I hope you were able to feel thelove, the support, and just the
genuine connection from each oneof us.
This was truly a gift to recordwith these four other beautiful
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ladies and to get to meet themin person there were 70 of us
total there.
I'm gonna tell you guys, we leftfeeling like we had known each
other all of our lives.
And it's truly just the power ofjust saying yes to yourself.
There is so, so much goodnesswhen you can connect and
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surround yourself with justbeautiful humans that wanna see
you grow and wanna celebrateyou.
Saying yes to myself and reallyjust stepping into the power of
it was truly a transformationaljourney for me.
So I hope that you, you getsomething out of this I will
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leave all of the other beautifulguests.
All their information in theshow notes.
And I wanna say a big thanks toChristine for leading this and
just, you know, it's just sopowerful to be surrounded by
beautiful women who just wannaconnect and love and support
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each other.
And we all got to do that andsay yes to ourselves.
So today.
If you don't have a community,if you don't have somebody or
something in, this just touchedme, reach out to me and I would
love to connect you to any ofthese beautiful ladies, to any
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of my mentors so you can startstepping in and fully saying yes
to yourself.
Thank you for tuning intoanother episode.
I hope today's story inspiredyou to embrace your own journey
of growth and change.
Remember, transformation isn'talways easy, but it's always
worth it.
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If you have your own story youwould like to share, I would
love to hear it.
So please reach out to me.
Until next time, friends, gohave some fun and let those
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