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Join us for an incredibly powerful and heartwarming conversation with my truly inspiring guest  Shabana Knight who embodies the power of choosing joy, no matter your starting point. At just two years old, she and her brother were found separated from their parents at a train station in India, leading them to an orphanage and eventually to a loving adoptive family in the United States.

In this episode, she bravely shares her full-circle journey back to the orphanage that shaped her early life, revealing the profound healing and sense of completeness it brought. Discover how she's navigated feelings of abandonment and rejection, not as a victim, but as a radiant leader choosing joy, abundance, and self-love every single day.

You'll be moved by her insights on:

  • Transforming Your Narrative: How to shift from being stuck in your "old story" to embracing a life of empowerment and freedom.
  • The Power of Choice: Learning that you truly get to choose how you show up, create your life, and find joy in the everyday—even in cleaning your bathroom!
  • The Synchronicity of Trust: Her incredible story of manifesting a life-changing trip back to India, despite delays and unexpected turns, and how trusting the process led to perfect alignment.
  • Unlocking Your True Self: The mind-blowing discovery of her actual birthdate at a retreat and the beautiful synchronicities that confirmed her path.
  • Spreading Light: Her passion for connecting with others, offering encouragement, and inspiring a ripple effect of love and positivity in the world.

This episode is a beautiful reminder that while we all have a story, we also have the choice to rise above it and transform it into a source of light, love, and unwavering joy. You won't want to miss this one!

You can connect with Shabana Knight at: https://www.instagram.com/shabana.knight?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

or:https://linktr.ee/shabana.Knight


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(00:04):
Hey friends.
Welcome to the Enter Sparkpodcast.
I'm your host, Casey Caton.
If you're looking to hearstories of transformation and
personal growth, this podcast isfor you.
My guest and I will be sharingthose sparking moments that has
changed the mental living a morefulfilling authentic life.
I'm so excited for you to heareach unique story.

(00:24):
So sit back, relax, and let'sget started.
Hey friends.
Welcome back to the Enter Sparkpodcast.
I'm your host, Casey Taton.
Today I have with me ShabanaKnight.
She is a mother, a wife, an allaround just beautiful soul that

(00:49):
I have got the chance to connectwith.
I'm so excited for you guys tomeet her.
Welcome, Shavana.
Hello, welcome.
Thank you for having me here.
This is fun.
Thanks for coming.
I'm so excited you're here.
I, sorry.
You're just so beautiful.

(01:10):
You guys.
She's like this beautiful light.
I'm gonna post a picture so youguys can see it, but she is like
this ray of sunshine and.
I'm gonna start this off bytelling you guys, I met her
through Kathy Heller's world,and she sent me a message one
day and then she listened to mypodcast and I was blown away and
I was like, I am so grateful tobe surrounded by beautiful

(01:36):
souls, and I seriously consideryou a blessing in my life.
I just wanna thank you.
I wanna thank you for beinghere, and I cannot wait for them
to hear your story.
Well, you already made me cry,so thank you for that.
Um, yeah, vice versa.

(01:56):
The older I get, I feel like themore amazing people that I get
to meet like you who in makingan impact where you're at.
And it's just, it's so fun beingin a space where you get to just
meet amazing people and sharethat energy and love because I
mean, our world needs it sobadly.

(02:16):
Just to have that light andlove.
Um, yeah.
So this is awesome.
Yeah, it's great.
All right, I'm gonna ask you acouple questions if that's okay.
Absolutely.
You guys, she has one of themost powerful stories I've ever
heard, and you're just a light,Your life is just this
beautiful, magical thing thatyou turn it into.

(02:39):
Would you tell them a little bitabout your story?
Yeah, absolutely.
When I was the age of two, four,me and my brother were found at
a train station separated fromour parents, and a police
officer found us.
He looked around, he didn't seeany.
Guardians or parents, and heplaced us in an orphanage.

(03:00):
Um, from there we were there forabout a year and a half and then
finally get adopted out.
We grew up in the same family onthe east coast.
And then just recently, thispast February, March, I went
back to India and went on thistour and.
At the end we got to see theorphanage where I was from, and

(03:22):
it was just that full circlemoment of like, holy crap, like
my life has been so amazing.
I don't, there's so many facetsto the story, but like, that's
just the very short part of it.
I'm just so proud of like whereI come from and seeing the
culture.
This was my, basically my firsttime back for me, to do what I

(03:45):
wanted to do.
I don't know, like my parents orsiblings or anything like that.
And yeah, you just gave mechills.
Thanks for sharing that.
There's so much in that andthere's so many ways you could
have taken your life and beenlike, I live the most horrible

(04:05):
life.
And yet you've made it into thistruly blessing of like, I've had
a beautiful life.
Like you experienced somethingthat not very many people can
say and like.
Do you remember those feelings?

(04:27):
Do you remember the officer,like how old that No, I was only
two years old at the time.
Okay.
So again, like, um, he justgathered the information, like
kind of like, oh, this is thesituation and that's what he
told to the orphanage.
And that's like our beginningstory.
I don't, but at the same time,like a lot of my life I've dealt

(04:49):
with like the feelings of likeabandonment and rejection and
like low energy and stuff likethat.
And obviously that all stemsfrom being left at such a young
age.
But I've done so much healingwork that it's just like night
and day.
It's just like, okay, like that.

(05:10):
That's our beginning story.
But like who am I now?
What have I overcome?
What are the choices I get tochoose each day?
To not be stuck in my like oldstory and like how can I like
rise above and choose joy andhelp people like, I don't know.
It's just you guys chooselighting up.

(05:31):
Like her face is smiling.
I wish you guys could all see itbecause we all have a story.
We all have a journey.
And, you chose like exactly whatyou said.
You live with so much joy and.
You've done, I think in KathyHeller's world, we do a lot of
healing ourselves, but yes, and,and it's a continual thing and a

(05:53):
lot of people don't know aboutit.
And I think that's somethingthat we have as supportive
people to surround ourselveswith to continually help us
grow.
But we also we get to shareabout it and we get to share
about how we grow and overcomethese obstacles and these like
challenges.
And we can say it happened.
To us, and we can be the victimin it.

(06:15):
But in a way it's almost like,it's like this blessing and this
like, I got to live thisbeautiful life.
Yeah.
This is my story, but I got tochange it into something.
I'm so lucky.
Yeah.
I'm so lucky that I got toconnect with you and that you're
on this, you're here and theyget to hear you.
Yes.
It's wild.
I guess it's like even 10 yearsago, like I didn't expect that I

(06:38):
would be sitting on a Zoom callwith somebody sharing my story.
I've always shared my story withpeople and I it's more like,
'cause people ask me like, oh,where are you from?
And so I'm like, oh, well let metell you kind of thing.
But then eventually I learnedthat like I was staying stuck in
my story in this likeabandonment story.
And I was like, wait a minute, Ican change this.

(07:00):
And then just like choosing out,like we have so many things that
happen to us as children that wejust take for like what it is.
And then we eventually hopefullylearn how to like, heal
ourselves and work on ourselvesand then realize like there's
just, there's so much more tolife than being stuck in our

(07:20):
stories.
And then how like empowering andfreeing it is not to be the
victim.
Um, yeah.
That's so powerful.
I often ask people like, we allhave this story, and then
there's like something that likesparks it inside of us, the

(07:40):
inner spark that's like, youknow, like I fought an illness
and I was like, I could goaround living that and telling
my story and I didn't speak mystory for a long time.
Just like you, like we all havethis thing where it's like, I
don't want people to feel sorryfor me.
Yes.
I don't know if you ever feltlike, I don't want people to
like judge me or feel sorry forme, or like I already did that

(08:03):
to myself and I didn't want it.
Yes, for sure.
It's that like, yeah, you just,I and I, I don't, I don't want
people to say, oh, like poorhurt.
No.
Like, I want people to see Youdon't have to say stuck in your
story, like that is one part ofyour life that's maybe like your
platform to get you into placesor talking to people to

(08:25):
encourage them that there is abetter way.
And our better way is honestlychoosing ourselves.
Like I've dealt with like peoplepleasing for so long and this,
that, and the other thing.
And I still struggle withthings, but It all comes down to
choice.
It all comes down to I choose mefirst.
I need to spend time on me andout of that, letting everything

(08:46):
else flow, like, um, a littlebit about me, like I'm married,
I have three kids, and life isreally crazy and busy.
But at the same time, it's like,it's wonderful the things I've
chosen to create for myself andfor my family, like I chose.
Not to work full-time.
And we, we struggled for a fewyears kind of thing.

(09:08):
And I work part-time and I loveit.
And I'm there for my kids whento see them out the door in the
morning and I'm there for themwhen they come home or they have
different, like, sportingevents.
And then, um, my daughter, rideshorses and stuff, so sometimes
she has competitions and stuff.
And then the other, the olderone is like learning to drive
and like things like that.
So it's just like I know we'rebusy, but at the same time, it's

(09:33):
just, again, just choosing thatjoy and using my gifts as a way
to make money.
Part-time is just so freeing.
And I, I love it.
Like, it just like, oh, I can'tbelieve I created this life.
Like, I thought it, you had todo things a certain way, but you
don't, like, you just, youdon't, you get to choose.

(09:54):
And you get to keep choosing andlike it does work out.
That's so powerful right therebecause I think that so many
people, like people pleasing,like the things we think we
don't get to choose and thatlife has to be hard and
difficult and life gets to bewhat you make it.
Yes, life gets to be like funand exciting and mm-hmm.

(10:19):
Like we get to be on these callstogether, sharing each other's
experiences we each have thisstory, but yet we're like, how
can we make this world a betterplace?
And I get to see your posts andI'm like.
Everything she is doing, likeshe makes it look so simple.
She makes gratitude and justsharing her life look so simple.

(10:39):
And so it's just those momentsthat I am like, I'm so grateful
to be surrounded by people likethat because yeah, I would've
never known your story if youwouldn't have shared it.
And when I did, I was like, sointeresting because you don't
live in this place of look atme.
Feel sorry for me.
You're like, my life is great.

(11:02):
I did this, I gotta grow upgreat.
You gotta go back and visit.
Right?
Yes.
Do you wanna talk about that anyOh my gosh.
Um, I mean, it was amazing.
It was this, um, so I justrecently turned 40 and so, I had
been planning to go to India.
It started back in.

(11:23):
I think like 20 17, 20 18, I sawthe movie Lion is a battle boy
who gets separated from hisbrother at a train station and
then ends up in an orphanage andends up getting adopted.
And it literally was the sametime period of me when me.
The movie took place at the sametime period that me and my

(11:43):
brother were left at a trainstation and stuff.
And so that movie just liketriggered so much and it was
like, oh my gosh, like I need togo back to India and see my
roots and just do all thisstuff.
So I had, um, back in 20 18, 2019, I had, done some
fundraising, and I like had thismassive goal and I was able to

(12:05):
reach this financial goal to goon this trip.
With saving and donations.
And then, um, then covid hit andthen everything changed.
And then like the money has beenlike sitting in a bank account
for like six years kind ofthing.
Um, then I.
After Covid and stuff startedopening back up.

(12:26):
Um, my husband also found out hehas a bunch of food allergy and
they, at this point the kids aregetting older and stuff, so it
was more important for them tobe in school and him to stay
home.
So things changed.
So I was gonna go on this trip,but I didn't wanna go by myself.
So then it literally like fellinto place the three people that
came with me on this trip.

(12:46):
And then, so then we.
Joined a tour group and we didthat.
And then at the end of the trip,we got to see the orphanage and
just sit and talk to them.
And I just, I cried so much.
I learned so much.
I healed so much just to bethere in that building and feel
the energy and the love and thesupport, and knowing that I have

(13:08):
been held for so long andcarried for so long and
surrounded for so long.
Then like they were amazing.
The lady was just like, tell meabout your upbringing.
Tell me about you.
What is your life like?
And I just got to share with hermy life in the last like 36
years basically, of just growingup in the United States and who

(13:32):
I married and my kids and just,it was just so neat that
somebody would take the time tosit and care.
And listen to me.
Um, you're making me cry.
Yeah, no, it's great.
I love it.
I love it.
So just to be held and seen, itwas huge.

(13:53):
And then I, I come back to theUS and then I went to the Kathy
Heller retreat and like, thatwas amazing.
So India was great.
It was just mind blowing.
There would be these momentswhen I was there and I would
feel it like in my soul, likethat I, that stuff would just
resonate.

(14:14):
Um, and, um.
I it, and also like just beingaround people that like look
like me and I'm not the oddperson out and like, these are
my people.
Like this is so cool and likedifferent like mannerisms that
people would do and I'm like, Ido that.
Like, it is just, it was wild.

(14:39):
That's really cool to hearbecause you were brought up in,
like you were raised in theUnited States.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I grew up on the East coast,so very American household.
Yeah, that's really neat that Ican only imagine the feelings of
walking into a place that you atsome point remember, but don't

(14:59):
really remember because you wereso young, but also knowing that
you were safe there, if thatmakes sense.
Like the people there that heldspace for you like, and they
wanted to know.
That is such a good feeling, andI can only imagine that it
filled your soul up to letsomeone, to even have someone
ask you, not just like, oh yeah,you lives here.
And you were like, that's,that's where I was.

(15:22):
You were like, no, I got to livesomewhere.
Because people don't oftenassociate orphanages or any
place like a home like that.
Yeah.
They don't associate any, Imean, yes, they're loving
people.
Everybody has a good heart, butthe power that you gotta go back
and just reconnect and.
Someone was like, I wanna knowmore.

(15:43):
Yeah.
Do you think that was like thechanging in your life or do you
think it happened before that,like that spark that was lit in
you?
I think, I mean, all throughoutmy life there's been different
sparks and things that come up.
Obviously this is my most likerecent one.
Yeah, it's just this, this senseof completion.

(16:08):
Like if I don't, I haven't donea ton of research of trying to
find like family or anythinglike that, um, my birth family
or whatever, but.
This was enough, like thisvisit, seeing the orphanage, I
didn't know how it was gonna go.
I didn't know, like, even likehow their English would be, she
spoke amazing English.

(16:29):
This was the executive directorthere.
Um, but I just feel complete.
There's no more like burning,dying questions that I have.
I am, I'm happy.
I'm whole.
It just, everything cametogether and I am so happy for
myself.
I'm happy that I took the timeto, go on this adventure.

(16:50):
I'm happy with I what I saw whatwe did.
Like everything was so good.
And then that's where I think.
More people that are adopted,like just to encourage them to
go study their roots, even ifit's like it's they're, they
live like in California, butthey knew they were born in New

(17:10):
Jersey or whatever.
Like just to go to New Jerseyand discover their roots or
whatever.
Like wherever you're from, ifyou know where you're from, you
should go do it.
There's so much power in allthat.
Actually, I just can't saythat's one statement because you
getting to see where you're fromoriginally and like, this is why
I do that, or that's why themannerisms I have, even though

(17:33):
you were raised in America, thatdoesn't mean anything.
You're like, oh, I get it.
I get it now.
It makes sense.
Mm-hmm.
And just the feeling of you now.
The questions outta your mind, Ican only imagine the wholeness
you feel and the courage.
Like, can I just give you suchcourage, like a big hug?
Like you took the courage tolike, raise money, get the

(17:56):
funds, then it got canceled andyou weren't like, I'm stopping
this.
You were like, no, I'm stillgoing.
Like, this is still gonna happenand you got to go with two
amazing people and yeah.
Those people were, I mean, righttime, right place.
Like it wasn't with your family,not like exactly like you
planned, but it worked out andit just completed your whole

(18:17):
circle.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I was looking at, uh, notes theother day and there's actually,
I think it was like an eightyear gap from when I started,
when I casted the vision ofwanting to go.
To when I actually went and I'm,and um, a lot of it, I mean,

(18:37):
honestly, a lot of those eightyears in between, yes, there was
covid for X amount of years,but, um, there's a lot of just
doubt and just frustration.
Like it was easy to raise themoney, that wasn't a problem.
But after that it's just alsolike.
There was a season of justfeeling disappointed.
'cause people would ask like,how's your trip planning going?
I'm like, Ugh.

(18:58):
I wanted it to look this way.
And I don't know how it's gonnawork out, but I trusted it will.
And then, the three people thatdid end up going with me on this
trip, it was one of those justlike, Hey,'cause they asked me
how it was going and I was like,Hey, do you wanna come with me?
Like, I was like so desperate.
I feel like at some point.
And they're like, well, we'llthink about it.

(19:18):
And the two people that went,Brenda and Rob, those two,
they're family friends, butthey're like distant family
friends.
And they thought about it and itall worked out and they ended up
going and were such a hugesupport.
And then my friend Karen wentwith us, and she's a good
friend.
She was my roommate on the tripbecause like originally when I

(19:40):
was planning it, it was like,no, like of course my husband
has to be with me because I feellike I, I'm gonna be such an
emotional wreck and I'm gonnaneed that support.
And then life things changed andthat's okay.
And the trip was exactly how itneeded to be and I wouldn't
change it I think that's thepower of trusting and we often
forget that whatever you believein, that things are going to

(20:04):
align, but you just have totrust the process.
Yeah.
Because it's so easy to.
Just say no, and, especiallywhen people are asking you, I
can't imagine the frustrationand you just were like, it's
coming along and then you madeit happen, and now you just,
you've got so much, so manyanswers and like the right
people, the right timing, likeyou just fully trusted and I

(20:26):
think that's what makes you whoyou are.
And just like this brightshining light because.
Not everybody does that.
And you are just like thisnatural born leader in this
light.
And I mean that from the bottomof my heart, you guys, she
listened to my podcast and shesent me the sweetest message and
I was blown away because noteverybody does that.

(20:48):
I was like, she has the heart ofgold.
Like she lights up this worldand she shared about my mission
and what lights me up and I waslike.
We live states away.
We're not even in the samestate.
And she is like, Hey, if youlive in Kansas, like, hey, you
can go help Casey.
You know?
And I was like, these are mypeople and these are the people
that if everybody had a tiny bitof that in them, this world will

(21:11):
be so much better.
And we're here to just showpeople that and raise everybody
up because you, you do that toothers and you give people
permission to.
See that life doesn't have to beexactly perfect, but you find so
much joy in everything you do.
You're making me cry so you canstop.

(21:33):
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Listen, thank you.
There's so many powerful peoplein this world and so many bright
lights, and that's truly whatthis podcast is about.
It's like we've all been throughsomething and we can live in
that story or we can rise abovethat story.
Yeah.
And you do that and I was evenlistening to you, or maybe it

(21:55):
was, I was reading something andyou were talking about how you
clean and I was like, when Iclean, okay, um, I clean our gin
and I sometimes I'm like, thisis not fun.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
When you said, when I clean Iget to do this.

(22:15):
I get to, and like your wholewords around it.
Like these people get to comehome to the, this clean house
and it's like dusting awayeverything.
And I was like, oh my goodness,why don't I think about this?
You just shifted my mindset andI was like laughing and I was
like, it's like the simple wordssomeone says, and you get to

(22:36):
choose how you think abouteverything you do.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I mean, just off record, buton the record, my bathroom is
disgusting and I don't evenwanna clean my own bathroom.
I'm like, I keep avoiding it,but it's just like, oh, I can do
anything.
And that is one thing that I'mlike, oh, I, so I have my

(22:59):
struggles, people just saying.
You're human.
You're human.
Yes.
I think it's easier to cleansomebody else's house if I go to
somebody else's house.
Totally.
It's easy to help somebody elseor do something else at their
house, and you come home and youlook at your house.
You're like, ah, yeah, why?
But I was like, I'm gonna startcleaning my house and I'm gonna
make this fun somehow.

(23:19):
Because you just like mm-hmm.
Reframed my mind on cleaning.
Like it can.
Like getting away all theclutter and it just felt so
good.
Yeah.
Your words are just so good.
Okay.
I was not at Kathy Heller'sretreat at Bloom, but can we
share a little bit about whathappened there okay, so this

(23:41):
story, you guys, I think isreally powerful.
I was not there and.
I'm gonna let you tell it, um,because what I heard is, okay,
so there's this, if you're notin Kathy's world, for everybody
who doesn't know, it's calledhuman design.
And, she did human design at herchart, but you have to know your

(24:04):
birthday and you don't, didn'tknow your birthday.
Right.
Correct.
Um, okay, so at Kathy's retreat,and it was one of those things,
I'm like, why am I going on thisretreat?
It was one of those things I'mlike, I don't, I feel like I

(24:24):
don't really have like abusiness as like all these
amazing women show up andthey're like, oh, I have this
podcast and I do all these coolthings.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, why amI here?
Um, I feel like I don't belong,but here we are.
Um, so.
I had done one of her programslike last year, and one of the
bonuses is I got the retreat forfree.

(24:45):
So that's why I showed upbecause I mean, who doesn't like
something free?
Yeah.
Um, so I was there and then wedid do human design and I.
So the backstory on my birthdayis because I'm adopted.
They didn't know my birthday.
So when we got to the orphanage,they just decided, Hey, this is
your birthday, which isSeptember 22nd, 1984.

(25:07):
And so that's what's on all mylike legal documents and stuff.
So we're at this retreat andyes, part of human design is
you're supposed to know yourbirthday.
Um, she had, um, Alexander Colecome in and, uh, do the session.
But basically.
I just told Alex, I was like, Idon't know my birthday.
What would you like me to do?

(25:28):
And she's like, just listen inand see like what resonates with
you and then just go to thatgroup.
So I picked a group and um, atthe end it was like manifesting
generator kind of thing.
And.
It just, it felt good andaligned.
And then that evening, one ofthe other participants in the

(25:51):
group was like, Hey, do youwanna go out to dinner?
We could do something low key,just the two of us.
I'm like, yes, but I'm gonnainvite my roommate.
So it was, I.
Me, Natalie and my new friendChristie.
We go out to dinner and it'sawesome and the restaurant's
closing and we're like, oh, weshould probably leave.
And then we go back to her roomand she is pulling us Oracle

(26:13):
cards and stuff.
And I like look at her and I'mlike, wait, you're in Oracle?
And she's like, yes.
I was like, tell me when mybirthday is.
Because I had heard in my heartwhen we were doing human design
what my birthday was, but I likedidn't wanna tell anyone.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and then.
She, so she says April 22nd.

(26:37):
And I'm like, oh my gosh, yes.
And then our other friend waslike, oh my gosh, yes.
I was thinking the same thing.
So together, the three of usdecided that my chosen birthday
would be April 22nd.
And the like crazy part is that,when I went back to the human
design like website, I typed in.

(26:58):
The birthday and I put in 1984,but it didn't align, so I was
like, wait a minute, what if Idid 1985?
So I did April 22nd, 1985,meaning that in at the time of
the retreat, in two weeks, Iwould turn 40 and I put that in
and it was crazy because it spitme out manifesting generator.

(27:19):
And, um, six, I think it was sixone or six two.
Um, but anyway, it was justcrazy that like my new birthday
aligned with the informationthat I had learned that day
while we were doing human designstuff.
When I was in India, I purchaseda very, expensive ring and this

(27:39):
ring is oh, so, so beautiful.
So brand, I love it.
I'm gonna have to post a pictureon my socials now, but, um,
yeah, this, this ring has 22diamonds on the outside circle.
And, April's birthstone isdiamonds, so it's basically
saying April 22nd, but in stoneform for my new birthday.

(28:03):
Yeah.
And then the center, thecenterpiece of this ring is a
blue topaz, and that's one ofDecember's birthstones.
So David and I got marriedDecember 1st, and there's one
blue Topez.
And there's so much of thesignificance of like just me
being married to David and howwe met each other and there's so

(28:24):
many different synchronicitiesand that is just like mind
blowing.
So December 1st is beyondextremely special for us, and
that we're like still marriedand.
Together.
Oh my gosh, our story.
That, that's another crazystory.
But anyway, so we decided duringthe Bloom retreat that my new
birthday that we're celebratingis April 22nd.

(28:48):
And, you know, I, I wouldn'thave come home with that if I
hadn't gone to the retreat andjust how life is amazing.
And again, like we're talkingabout these full circle moments,
and this ring is the fullcircle, so it's just like, oh,
duh.
Of course.
The reason I wanted you to sharethat story is because, I think

(29:09):
it's funny that you were like,why I'm at Kathy's event,
because I went to one of hersummits and I was like, I had
started a podcast.
It was like, I'm thinking aboutstarting a podcast, but I didn't
have my podcast out yet.
And it was a podcasting summit,but not everybody.
I had a card and that was it.
And so I went, but.
When you're around all theseamazing people, it doesn't
matter.
You forget and you're just like,it's just about connecting.

(29:30):
The power of connecting with somany beautiful people and the
things that come out of thereare truly incredible.
So if someone ever has a chanceto go to a Kathy Heller event, I
would highly encourage it.
The connection of people thereis just.
Something your soul cannot, I, Ican't even explain it.

(29:50):
I can't, you know, it's been ayear since I went last May, and
I was like, I don't belong here.
This is my first trip.
You know?
So when you said that, like,what, why am I going?
It's like, oh, well you weremeant to be there.
Yeah.
And the power of your birthday.
And here's the thing is noteverybody would be open to that.
Like some people would be like,I don't know, my birthday in
panic.
And you were just like, I don'tknow.

(30:10):
Like I, I mean I have this daythat people said, and.
You just trusted the wholeprocess and the power of the
ring that came all in, like fullcircle of everything that you
said.
Like, you can't make that stuffup.
You can't, like I literally hadbought it.
March 1st, and then the retreatwas like April 1st, so like a

(30:32):
month later kind of thing.
And I was just drawn to it and Ihad a choice between two
different rings and everyone waslike, no, buy the other ring.
I'm like, no, I want this ring.
Like if I'm gonna spend my moneyon it, it's my choice.
And so I went with the ring andthen like right away I like
texted my husband.
I'm like.
I spent a lot of money, don'tlike, like, don't freak out on

(30:52):
the credit card.
Um, he's like, it's fine.
I'm like, okay, good.
Because it's, I love it.
So, yeah.
That's amazing.
And there's so many, it'ssynchronicity is, but it's like,
it's synchronicities.
Like you're open to thesethings.
Yes.
Like you're open and you, whenyou're not open, these things
don't happen.
Yeah, no, totally.

(31:14):
And I like, I always say like itcomes down to choice to be open
or not to be open, and it's.
It's pretty simple, but at thesame time, I mean, we all get
caught up in our thoughts andstuff, and it's like, okay,
breathe.
Like right before this call,we're like having technical
difficulties.
I'm like, what is going on?

(31:35):
Like, we gotta do this podcastand it's happening, but we just
got to learn some stuff beforewe jump on.
That's another reason why I loveyou because you Wiki could have
been like.
This happened and I'm not doingit.
And I could have been like, Hey,my day's crazy.
I can't do this.
But I was like, she's such alight in this world.
And you're like, I'm struggling.

(31:55):
I'm like, it's okay.
Breathe.
Because this podcast is fun.
I want this podcast to be funand I want everybody that's
listening to see the light inthe world that you are like, you
are just this bright, shininglight and you just bring so much
joy and so much love everywhere.
I watch your social media pageand the way you interact with

(32:17):
people.
I'm like, if I know I said this,but I really mean it.
Like if everybody could do thatand just take like a tiny piece
of that.
Yeah.
Like this world would be such agreat place.
But here's the thing is, as yousaid, you have the choice and
you choose to see so much goodin this world.
And by the way, happy 40thbirthday.

(32:38):
Thank you.
Thank you.
I truly believe like the, when Iturned 40, I was like, oh my
goodness, I'm 40.
But I truly believe, your lifeis really just starting.
And I was like, thank you.
I needed that.
You're right.
My life is just starting.
Like I get to tell my story.
I do my podcast so I can hearother people's amazing stories

(32:58):
and get them out in the worldand let them know that there's
so much good no matter whatyou've been through.
Your story is so powerful and someaning, and you're changing the
world.
Oh, and one thing I was thinkingabout, I was like, obviously
this podcast will be shared andwhoever listens, listens, and I
hope they feel loved andinspired.

(33:19):
But even if nobody listened toit and it was just us receiving
back and forth and ping pongingback and forth, like it was
worth showing up, it was worthhaving the conversation.
I mean, technically, this is thefirst time we've ever talked
before and like everything isjust flowing and I love it.
But it's just like, I know I'mgoing to be buzzing for the rest

(33:41):
of the weekend because I got theti time to talk with you and
share my story, hear your storyback and forth.
And it's like we just need aswomen to keep having these
amazing conversations andencouraging people and
encouraging each otherregardless who's listening, like
just to spread that love energyeverywhere we go.
Like it's so important.

(34:01):
So that is probably one of themost powerful things.
I'm releasing a podcast thisweekend, and it's about the
power of friendship, and I trulybelieve that.
And it's my pod that recordedit, like I'm in a podcast pod
and it's, and friendships are soimportant.
Yeah.
And it doesn't matter that we'reon Zoom and that we live in
different states.
What do you, we lived in adifferent country.

(34:22):
It's the power that we can stillshare love and open our hearts
and learn something from eachother and still bring so much
light and joy.
And like this conversation justchanged my whole day.
Like I went from frantic tolike, oh my goodness, this is
happening and we're making ithappening.
And I'm looking at my screen,you guys, and I get to see this
glowing, beautiful person.

(34:43):
And hear her story, like that'sjust, yeah, it's truly what I
made this podcast for, and I waslike, if five people listen,
five people listen, but I'mgonna share we're, I'm throwing
it out in the universe that it'sgonna touch every person that it
touches is gonna be the rightperson.
Oh, I love that.
I love that.
I love that.

(35:04):
Do you wanna share anythingelse?
Yes.
Now that you asked.
Um, just, I'm just kidding.
Yeah.
I just started, um.
How do I say that?
Okay, so obviously, um, like Iclean houses and I organize and
stuff like that, but one thing Ireally am starting to do more is

(35:25):
I really wanna grow like myInstagram account so I can be
that love and light everywhere Igo.
So one of the things that I'mdoing is, um.
I am like, I'm gonna pull likeOracle cards for people.
And that's obviously totally, ifyou're into it, and totally fine
if you're not.

(35:45):
I'm here to spread love andlight, and I think these cards
are amazing.
And so giving people the choiceto, um.
Just basically let me pull themsomething and encourage them and
stuff.
Um, when we're done, we'lldefinitely have to pull a card
for you for fun.
Yeah, I was gonna say, um, okay.
And then so doing that and then,this other business idea that

(36:07):
I've been like.
Chewing in my mind for the pastmonth that I just need to do is
that, I want to send encouragingnotes to people and like turn
that into a business.
So basically like if you're justlike, I need an encouraging note
and like literally like ahandwritten note and they get it
in the mail.
Um.
And, and, or like let's say, youknow, someone who's struggling,

(36:30):
like with cancer or whatever,and then you say, Hey, could you
write a note to this person kindof thing?
And let that surprise them andbless them.
I do feel like that, I choose tobe connected to source energy
and stuff and like I want tobless people with my words and I
know I'm doing that.
This way, being on podcasts andstuff like that and sharing my

(36:51):
story and who, even just theother day we were at Costco and,
I was asking a guy if there was,the veggie straws anyway, so
they didn't have it.
They only had like the snacksizes, but when we were done I
was like, I love your earrings.
And then he is like, oh thanks.
And then we were at the checkoutand um, I asked the lady to

(37:12):
double check in the computer'cause he was just on the floor.
Um, anyway, so.
He is like, he's already at thefront like looking on the
computer like, hey, sorry wedon't have any, I was like, oh
my gosh, thank you for likefollowing me up here and like
finding the information when Ithought that was like 10 minutes
ago kind of thing.
So my point is you should beloving light everywhere you go

(37:36):
and everybody needsencouragement.
And if you see something insomeone, you should, I think
always compliment them.
Like, be genuine about it, butlike, if it doesn't pop in your
head, then like don't make upstuff.
But if it pops in your heart, inyour head, like say, Hey, I like
your hair or your shoes orwhatever, um, because we, we

(37:56):
need that.
And I know that that complimentto him of like, Hey, I love your
earrings.
Is gonna stick with him for along time.
Because they were definitelylike drastic and different and
like I feel like most peoplewould be like, oh, that's
questionable.
Or like, why does he have hisears pierce?
I'm like, stop judging.
People just love.
So that that right there, stopjudging people and just love.

(38:21):
First of all, I will share herlinks and where you guys can
find her because you need to gofind her.
She is sharing positive stuffnonstop, so I'm having a bad
day.
It's like, or struggling orsomething.
My mind's just like, just golook at her page because there's
gonna be something positive onthere and yeah, we're gonna make
your business happen.
So whoever's listening, you guysheard it.
Go follow her.

(38:41):
She's already doing amazingthings.
And the best thing in the worldwould be to get a surprise note.
Like I open my mailbox and Itell my male lady, I'm like,
Hey, if there's something likeyou don't really need to drop
off my mail.
And she laughs and I'm like, Imean, if there's a good mail in
there, but like, I don't, Idon't want this mail.
Like you just get bills and youget all these things and you're

(39:01):
like, all this like junk mill.
And I'm like, but the momentsomeone opens up a mill and it's
a piece of Happy mill.
Or a message that you getunexpected.
Those are the things that changepeople's lives.
Just like you complimentingsomeone, like we have no idea
what's people are going through.
And I actually, I, so I had thisgirl home.

(39:24):
I feel like I'm, I'm like you.
I'll, I'll randomly saysomething to someone.
Oh yeah.
It just comes out like.
You know, I just talk to peopleand it's, and it just comes easy
for me to be like, and I feellike I'm, I'm quiet, like
carrying on conversations, but Ican easily say something like,
oh, I really like that.
You know, and the way peoplesmile, it's like, I didn't do it
for you.
I did it because I really thinkthat's cute.

(39:45):
And it just comes outta yourmouth.
I was having a hard day.
I have frozen shoulder and it'ssuper painful.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I had this young girl, I was atQuickTrip, so this is, this was
my day.
I left the doctor's office.
I was crying.
I was like.
I'm gonna go have a donut andI'm gonna just go cry.
And I don't even eat donuts.
Like,'cause I watch what I eat.
I watch what I like.
Went to QuickTrip and there'sthis young girl in there and

(40:08):
she's like, of course I've beenbawling.
My face was all red.
And she was like, mm-hmm.
I, I'm trying to open the bagwith one hand, you know, like,
you know the donut, it bags atthe gas stations.
You can't ever get them openwith one hand, Uhhuh.
And she's like this youngteenage girl and she said, can I
help you?
And I was like.
Yeah, thank you.

(40:29):
And she's like, do you want meto get your donut for you also?
And I was like, yeah, thank you.
And I was like, welcome.
And she's like, the weather waskind of like getting ready rain.
And she was like, I know theweather's kind of like dreary
outside, but the sun's notreally shining, but I really
hope you have a good day.
And I was like, thank you.
And I walked out.

(40:50):
So I pay and I walk out and shegets in her car.
But, and with her mom and I,look, I, I reached in her mom's
window, like knocked on thewindow.
And I was like, is this yourdaughter?
And she kind of looked at me andlike, I'm like, I'm sorry, were
you on the phone?
'cause she had her phone up andI think she was playing it for a
kid in the back.
And I could see the this girl,she was a teenager, her eyes go
like this.
And like, oh my goodness, whatdid I do?

(41:11):
And I was like, I just wannatell you.
How thankful I am.
Like people don't stop.
And a lot of times people judgekids and teens and I'm like,
they're not all bad.
I said, I am having a really badday and I'm really struggling
with my arm.
I'm like, your daughter helpedme open my donut bag and get my
donut and then like proceeded totell me to have a good day.

(41:33):
And I just wanna tell you, shechanged my day.
Like she made my day and I, itis just like the small reminders
of like things like that.
Just like you said, we can dothings like that.
Also teens, I wanted to tell herbecause they often don't get
enough compliments of like, thisteen just did that and it's just
so simple of opening a bag forsomebody, giving somebody a

(41:56):
compliment on their earrings.
Yeah, it's just.
Yeah, you gave me chills when Iheard that story.
I,, that was beautiful.
Just, and also like us as women,like also being able to receive
the help from other people.
I mean, I feel like that's hugehealing growth when you can

(42:19):
receive help from other people.
We're so stubborn and ficklesometimes, no, I don't want
help.
I can, I can manage this bag onehanded.
You know, and it's just like,no, like, I love it.
You like, the old me would'vesaid that, like absolutely.
Like a stubbornness would'vebeen like, no, thanks, I got
this.
Yeah.
Like, mm-hmm.

(42:39):
I don't need your help.
I can figure it out by myselfwith one hand.
Yeah.
Like, I don't, and it's justlike, so it, yeah, you're right.
It acknowledged how much I'vegrown as a person and.
Just receiving it is sopowerful.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Love it.
If you were to tell them todaywhere they can start to do

(43:01):
something to light them up, whatwould you tell them?
I would say make a happy listand don't take that like wrong
or weird or whatever, but likewrite down five things on that
list that truly make you happy.
Like for me, the things I wouldfind on this list would be like,

(43:23):
huh, um, like cleaning up thehouse, but not the bathroom, but
tidying up the house, taking awalk, listening to music,
exercising.
Going out to lunch with a goodfriend, taking pictures of
nature and flowers and stufflike that.
Journaling, having five minutesof peace and quiet, even if that

(43:46):
means like it closing thebathroom door for five minutes,
like without my phone kind ofthing.
And then when you are like stuckor whatever, go back to your
list and then go do the thing onthe list.
Just to remember like you'realways that choice and sometimes
we feel like we have all thesethings pulling at us, whether
it's responsibilities or kids orboyfriends or spouses or

(44:09):
whatever, and honestly, likelearning to say no, like.
Mommy needs a timeout and gotaking your break or whatever.
Or even just if you have anypets or whatever.
Like for me, I have this cat andhe's amazing.
He is an indoor cat and he islike 20 pounds and needs to lose
weight.
That's besides the point.
But like I'll go and I'm like,Jasper, come here and I'll lay

(44:30):
in bed and pet my cat.
And um, it's the best thing,like just taking care of
yourself, even if it's just fiveminutes each day, That's so
beautiful.
Everything you said is justbringing awareness to where you
are and, and you.
Yeah.
You can say no and you can, Ihave a cat too.

(44:51):
I do that with Love it.
Aw.
Yeah.
My cat's laying over there andI'm like, I just need to pet you
for a little bit.
Just need a love.
Mm-hmm.
And cats know.
Yeah, he's my therapy cat.
Like that's what I say.
We tell all the time.
I was like, my cat hears all myproblems.
She doesn't judge.
She's the best.

(45:11):
Right.
And yeah, I love it.
So fun.
Do you wanna tell them where tofind you and then I will drop it
in the show notes.
Yeah, absolutely.
Find me on Instagram that is theplatform that I'm growing.
So come like, comment, share,subscribe, all the fun things.
It's just Shabana Knight.

(45:31):
Instagram.
Yeah, it'll be in the shownotes.
So yeah, I'll read it in theshow notes.
Yeah.
I wanna Thank you.
Yeah, go ahead.
Do you have, do you wanna sayanything else?
No, this has just been super funand I like amazing that I get
this opportunity to hang outwith you and we should just keep
talking.
But yeah, we, I feel like wecould talk for hours, you guys
Yeah.
If you saw her on the screen andit's just like this magic

(45:54):
feeling of.
Two people that are, we'restrangers and all of a sudden we
just get to connect and it'slike our souls just like align
us to these people and guide usthese people who are like, yeah,
they're my people.
And I could be around them allday and just have a general
conversation.
And it's like.
Even though we are strangersyet, I don't feel like we're
strangers, if that makes sense.

(46:16):
Yeah, no, agreed.
I, that's like, one thing thatI've always been really
intentional about is I just wantpeople to feel loved and
welcomed and seen.
Because we're all human andwe're having this human
experience and yeah.
Um, I think the only other thingthat I'm, I guess restarting
back up, but it's just likeclarity coaching.

(46:36):
So these are just.
Quick 15 minute phone calls, acouple times a month.
And so basically I just wanna, Iwanna work with women who are,
you know, like we can literallytalk about anything and have it
solve problems because we getstuck and wanna help people get
unstuck.
And so Clarity coaching is allabout that.

(46:57):
And also like clarity cards withthe Oracle cards.
I'm like, this is gonna be mynew word.
So I love it.
You already changed people'slives just by being the bright
light You are.
I'm gonna encourage all mylisteners, I wanna thank you so
much for being here.
Yes, and I will leave you guys.
I'll leave all her informationin the show notes.

(47:19):
I wanna thank you for listeningto this episode, and I encourage
you to go follow her.
Her journey.
Her story is so powerful and sotouching, and she is just a
light in this world.
So go follow her and take heradvice.

(47:39):
Do something.
For you today and do somethingfor somebody else and just go.
Let your sparks fly.
Go find the light in the world.
Thank you for tuning intoanother episode.
I hope today's story inspiredyou to embrace your own journey
of growth and change.
Remember, transformation isn'talways easy, but it's always

(48:01):
worth it.
If you enjoyed this episode, besure to subscribe.
Share it with a friend, andleave a review.
If you found something thatsparked you in this episode and
may spark a friend, I encourageyou to go share with them.
If you have your own story youwould like to share, I would
love to hear it.
So please reach out to me.
Until next time, friends, gohave some fun and let those

(48:22):
sparks lie.
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