Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks

Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks

The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.

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June 28, 2025 92 mins

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Ian and Jim sit down with acclaimed Mormon historian and scholar Greg Prince—author of David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism and other pivotal works—for a sweeping discussion on the past, present, and future of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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Ian and Jim dive into a remarkable and quietly released document that’s now been added to the official Joseph Smith Papers archive: a revelation received by LDS Church President John Taylor in 1886—long believed by many to be apocryphal, forged, and/or suppressed. 

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June 14, 2025 81 mins

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Ian and Jim sit down with a lifelong friend — Kirk Hays, former Scotland Edinburgh Mission AP and bishop turned humanitarian, artist, and TikTok influencer known as The Vagabond Artist.

From his unexpected call to serve in Scotland in the 1980s to leading a ward as a non-believing bishop, Kirk shares his raw, honest, and often surprising story of wrestling with faith, church leadership, and personal integrity. 

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In this bonus episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim dive headfirst into today's explosive intersection of faith, politics, and morality. With Elon Musk accusing Donald Trump of being named in the Epstein files, the conversation turns to why so many Latter-day Saints still fervently support Trump.

Can the Church stay neutral forever? And what would Jesus actually do?


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June 5, 2025 86 mins

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Ian and Jim explore the bold steps taken by the Community of Christ—formerly the RLDS Church—in appointing its first female prophet-president, Stassi Cram, and reflect on how such actions contrast with the cautious approach of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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May 31, 2025 83 mins

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Ian and Jim welcome renowned scholar and author Terryl Givens for a candid conversation about evolving faith, historical transparency, and the role of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in a changing world.

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May 24, 2025 66 mins

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In this special anniversary episode, Ian and Jim reflect on two years of Inside Out—the guests, the gratitude, and the gut-punch moments that have defined their journey

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May 18, 2025 62 mins

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Ian and Jim discuss the election of Pope Leo the 14th and what it means for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 

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May 10, 2025 74 mins

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Ian and Jim discuss the history and the future of women in the Church. 

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May 3, 2025 80 mins

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Ian and Jim review a new Church survey asking about different ways people worship. 

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April 26, 2025 103 mins

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Ian and Jim are joined by Lance Jackson, a champion hammer thrower, an accomplished opera singer, and a former bishop who discusses his experiences both in and out of the Church. 

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April 19, 2025 77 mins

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Ian and Jim discuss the Church's evolving position on organic evolution. 

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April 12, 2025 68 mins

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Ian and Jim recap General Conference and what parts stood out and which parts could have been an email. 

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April 5, 2025 71 mins

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Ian and Jim are joined by Valerie Hamaker, host of the Latter Day Struggles podcast. She discusses her faith journey, her podcast, and the events that led to her resignation from the Church. 

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March 30, 2025 65 mins

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Ian and Jim swap stories about how the Church has been a profound blessing in their lives. 

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March 22, 2025 71 mins

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Ian and Jim discuss Spencer W. Kimball's book "The Miracle of Forgiveness" and the impact it has had on the Church. 

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March 15, 2025 65 mins

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Beth Magnetic, host of the YouTube channel "Death by Patriarchy," joins Ian and Jim for a fascinating discussion about the dark side of patriarchy, the Church's approach to mental health, and true crime stories in and out of the Church. 

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March 9, 2025 74 mins

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Ian and Jim have a conversation with Ian's old friend Daryl Watson, who, along with his wife, recently served as a mission leader of the Belgium/Netherlands Mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 

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March 1, 2025 74 mins

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Ian and Jim discuss America's abandonment of Ukraine and what the Church's role ought to be as the world devolves into chaos. 

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February 22, 2025 70 mins

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Ian and Jim discuss Elder Boyd K. Packer's infamous "To Young Men Only" pamphlet. 

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