Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks

Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks

The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.

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December 7, 2025 75 mins

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Jim and Ian sit down with Pat Boisselle — an old friend of Ian's whose life in Mormonism was defined by devotion, service, and sincerity. 

For decades, Pat was the kind of Latter-day Saint who quietly strengthened his community: a devoted husband, a dedicated missionary, a compassionate servant, and someone known for going above and beyond without seeking recognition.

But in recent years, Pat’s faith was ...

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November 29, 2025 72 mins

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Ian and Jim welcome back a favorite guest: Nemo the Mormon, joining Inside Out from the UK for a deep-dive conversation about one of the most defining—and difficult—topics in Latter-day Saint culture: fallibility vs. infallibility in the Church.

Using a homemade “Infallibility Meter” (complete with sound effects and a cardboard spinner), the three tackle several big topics at random—each framed around the question: Wha...

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November 22, 2025 89 mins

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Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a deep dive into one of the most sensitive and consequential themes in Greg’s “Roadmap for Improving Mormonism”: gerontocracy—a system of governance led by the very old—and how it shapes the culture, leadership, and future of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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November 15, 2025 76 mins

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In one of our most anticipated conversations to date, Inside Out welcomes the remarkable Sandra Tanner — writer, historian, researcher, and the great-great-granddaughter of Brigham Young. For more than sixty years, Sandra and her late husband Jerald Tanner have been at the forefront of documenting and analyzing the origins, doctrines, and historical claims of the LDS Church. Their work has influenced generations of sc...

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What happens when a faith community quietly backs away from a doctrine without ever really owning the fallout? In this episode, historian and author Greg Prince returns to talk about the long shadow of Mormon polygamy - not just in the 19th century, but in the lived experience of Latter-day Saints today.

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November 1, 2025 69 mins

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Ian and Jim sit down with Jordan Broadbent, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ Head of Humanitarian Efforts for Europe. From his early faith journey in England to his transformative shift from the corporate world into humanitarian service, Jordan shares the experiences and convictions that led him to dedicate his life to helping others.

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October 25, 2025 58 mins

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What happens when a Latter-day Saint bishop begins to ask deeper questions about faith, purpose, and the nature of God? In this powerful and deeply personal conversation, Ian and Jim sit down with Stephen Hunter — former political lobbyist, bishop, and now Orthodox Christian — to explore his remarkable spiritual journey.

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October 18, 2025 78 mins

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What happens when faith, psychology, and the power of influence collide? In this extraordinary episode, Jim and Ian welcome Dr. Steven Hassan, one of the world’s foremost experts on cult dynamics, undue influence, and mind control. A former member of the Unification Church (“Moonies”) who has spent nearly fifty years helping people recover from coercive systems, Dr. Hassan brings deep insight and compassion to the con...

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In this post–General Conference discussion, Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a candid, wide-ranging conversation about what just unfolded during the Church’s apostolic interregnum since President Nelson’s passing.

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Our second livestream! We'll be recapping General Conference and hopefully taking questions from you guys!

Click here for the link to tonight's livestream at 8:00 PM MDT, or use the URL below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpm9vr8lW0A


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Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a wide-ranging and timely conversation about the tragic attack on a Michigan Latter-day Saint congregation, the passing of President Russell M. Nelson, and the future of President Dallin H. Oaks. Together, they wrestle with questions of faith, politics, and identity, asking whether the church can rise to meet this moment of polarization with clarity and cou...

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Tonight, we launch the Inside Out YouTube Channel with a livestream at 8:00 PM Mountain Time. We'll be talking about the passing of President Nelson, the tragic shooting in Michigan, and General Conference coming up, with speculation about what an Oaks presidency is likely to look like. 

We welcome your comments and participation!

Just visit https://www.youtube.com/live/jY6belJfKsY or click here to participate!

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Ian and Jim sit down with scholar and author Ganesh Cherian, whose new book Joseph Smith: The Architect of Mormonism offers a topical biography of Mormonism’s founding prophet.

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September 20, 2025 68 mins

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This episode discusses grief and suicide. Listener discretion is advised.

Ian and Jim sit down with Bruce Butcher—a longtime listener and friend of the podcast—for a conversation that goes straight to the heart. Bruce shares his faith journey, family background, and mission experiences, but most poignantly, he opens up about the devastating loss of his son Taylor, who took his own life.

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Greg Prince returns to Inside Out to continue exploring his roadmap for improving Mormonism. Together, Greg, Ian, and Jim tackle urgent issues facing the Church today—from toxic polarization and the need for prophetic voices to speak out, to women’s leadership, LGBTQ inclusion, and the long history of reactive rather than proactive change.

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September 11, 2025 49 mins

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Ian and Jim have a conversation about the horrific assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University. 

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Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a candid discussion about the newly released YouTube docuseries An Inconvenient Faith, which explores pressing issues facing members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — including polygamy, LGBTQ experiences, race, prophetic fallibility, women and authority, and the challenges of personal revelation.

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In this episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim welcome back licensed professional counselor and host of the Latter-day Struggles podcast, Valerie Hamaker. Together, they dive into one of the most pressing questions facing the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints today: Do women really have authority in the church—or only the authority men allow them to have?

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