Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks
The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
Episodes
Ian and Jim welcome special guest Clayton Settle, a lifelong Latter-day Saint who shares his journey of faith, questions, and resilience.
Clayton opens up about growing up in Corpus Christi, Texas, serving a mission in Nevada, and raising a family in Houston while staying actively involved in music callings at church. He also speaks candidly about the challenges he’s faced—particularly around polygamy, church history, ...
Ian and Jim welcome back one of their most popular guests, historian and author Greg Prince, for another deep dive into his roadmap for improving Mormonism. The conversation ranges from biblical literacy among Latter-day Saints to the Church’s historical aversion to higher criticism, the tension between science and scripture, and why boredom may be one of the institution’s biggest spiritual threats.
A keynote. A controversy. And a defense you won’t hear anywhere else. Jim and Ian unpack the online backlash against Church Communications Director Aaron Sherinian after his FAIR conference appearance - tackling misquotes, double standards, and what it really means to sustain leaders.
Ian and Jim welcome back special guest Steven Pynakker, founder and host of the popular Mormon Book Reviews podcast. Together, they tackle one of the most audacious questions in the Restoration movement: Where did the Book of Mormon come from?
Ian and Jim welcome back distinguished scholar and author Greg Prince to unpack his groundbreaking essay, A Roadmap for Improving Mormonism. What begins as a bold comparison between Vatican II and a proposed "Salt Lake I" turns into an expansive, candid discussion about grassroots revelation, institutional resistance to change, and the urgent need for moral authority within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latt...
Ian and Jim dive deep into one of Mormonism’s most sacred — and least discussed — doctrines: the existence of a Heavenly Mother… or perhaps, Heavenly Mothers. Triggered by a recent offhand comment by President Dallin H. Oaks, the discussion focuses on the theological, cultural, and historical complexities of polygamy in the afterlife and the implications of multiple divine wives.
Ian and Jim welcome back acclaimed historian and author Greg Prince for a follow-up conversation about the future of missionary work in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Together, they explore how the Church's immense resources—real estate, membership, and financial strength—can be leveraged to transform communities through service rather than traditional proselytizing.
Ian and Jim sit down with Jim's sister Julie Newton and her husband Marty Newton, who are serving as senior missionaries in Adelaide, Australia. Their mission? Not door-to-door proselytizing—but boots-on-the-ground humanitarian work across the country.
Ian and Jim sit down with acclaimed Mormon historian and scholar Greg Prince—author of David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism and other pivotal works—for a sweeping discussion on the past, present, and future of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Ian and Jim dive into a remarkable and quietly released document that’s now been added to the official Joseph Smith Papers archive: a revelation received by LDS Church President John Taylor in 1886—long believed by many to be apocryphal, forged, and/or suppressed.
Ian and Jim sit down with a lifelong friend — Kirk Hays, former Scotland Edinburgh Mission AP and bishop turned humanitarian, artist, and TikTok influencer known as The Vagabond Artist.
From his unexpected call to serve in Scotland in the 1980s to leading a ward as a non-believing bishop, Kirk shares his raw, honest, and often surprising story of wrestling with faith, church leadership, and personal integrity.
In this bonus episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim dive headfirst into today's explosive intersection of faith, politics, and morality. With Elon Musk accusing Donald Trump of being named in the Epstein files, the conversation turns to why so many Latter-day Saints still fervently support Trump.
Can the Church stay neutral forever? And what would Jesus actually do?
Ian and Jim explore the bold steps taken by the Community of Christ—formerly the RLDS Church—in appointing its first female prophet-president, Stassi Cram, and reflect on how such actions contrast with the cautious approach of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Ian and Jim welcome renowned scholar and author Terryl Givens for a candid conversation about evolving faith, historical transparency, and the role of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in a changing world.
In this special anniversary episode, Ian and Jim reflect on two years of Inside Out—the guests, the gratitude, and the gut-punch moments that have defined their journey
Ian and Jim discuss the election of Pope Leo the 14th and what it means for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Ian and Jim discuss the history and the future of women in the Church.
Ian and Jim review a new Church survey asking about different ways people worship.
Ian and Jim are joined by Lance Jackson, a champion hammer thrower, an accomplished opera singer, and a former bishop who discusses his experiences both in and out of the Church.
Ian and Jim discuss the Church's evolving position on organic evolution.
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