Find Your Way or Make One | EP44

What do you do when you're expected to be the moral compass and the legal expert - and you’re neither a therapist nor a lawyer? In this real-talk episode of Inside the C-Suite, Christy sits down with Jocelyn King, the founder and CEO of Virgil HR, who went from overwhelmed HR exec to startup founder by asking a simple but powerful question: Isn’t there a better way? Together, they unpack the messy middle of leadership - where pressure, purpose, and people all collide. Tune in to hear: Why Jocelyn swears by grit, grace, and Google (yes, really) The communication skill that almost derailed her career - and how she turned it into her superpower The hidden weight of sitting in the C-suite (and how to carry it without crumbling) What HR leaders are really facing in a post-COVID, multi-state world And the moment that made her say: If the tool doesn’t exist... I’ll build it myself Whether you’re leading a team, building something from scratch, or just trying to keep your head above water - this episode is your reminder that there is always a way forward. And if you can’t find one? Make one.    Chapters: 00:01:52 - Why HR keeps saying “I’m not a lawyer” 00:02:22 - What grit and resilience really look like in a startup 00:03:44 - The people who shaped Jocelyn’s leadership 00:05:28 - Building a team you can trust 00:05:42 - Leading through chaos without rituals 00:07:12 - Traits that helped Jocelyn succeed 00:08:01 - Turning communication into a leadership superpower 00:09:15 - Jocelyn’s mantra for overcoming obstacles 00:10:22 - What Jocelyn would tell her younger self 00:11:51 - A startup failure that turned into growth 00:15:01 - The biggest compliance issues HR leaders face 00:17:51 - Why HR carries more weight than people realize 00:18:38 - Where to meet Jocelyn at upcoming events 00:19:14 - Jocelyn’s personal outlets and self-care habits 00:22:08 - What makes Virgil HR different 00:22:54 - What no one tells you about the C-suite | Connect with Us | Learn more about VirgilHR: https://virgilhr.com/   Follow Jocelyn King: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jocelynanneking/ (She's the real deal: CEO of VirgilHR, HR Compliance Expert and Technology Innovator, & A Proud Dog Mom)   Meet Jocelyn IRL at Upcoming Conferences: SHRM Annual Conference - San Diego 2025 HRTech Conference - Las Vegas 2025 Transform (Already attended, but one of her favs!) HRWest (Already attended, but she may return next year!)   Follow Inside the C-Suite: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cwiseman/ Subscribe on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/2gk39EvNtXLVHuAbp7tr6b Subscribe on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inside-the-c-suite/id1739883160 Want to be on the show or know someone who might?  Contact Form – https://forms.gle/B1fVXPSV6b3x3AsS9 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices