November 28, 2025 • 24 mins
A comet from deep space may thread the edge of Jupiter’s gravitational reach while Silicon Valley pours billions into a first-of-its-kind fusion plant. That’s not just good sci‑fi—those are the headlines shaping how power, money, and curiosity collide right now.
We start with 3I Atlas, an interstellar comet modeled to pass startlingly close to Jupiter’s Hill sphere in March 2026. Researchers ran hundreds of orbital clones and flagged non-gravitational forces that might have nudged its path into a razor-thin corridor. Whether the culprit is outgassing or a modeling quirk, the odds look wild enough to ask harder questions.
Then we turn to fusion, where Helion has broken ground in central Washington with plans to deliver electricity to Microsoft by 2028. It’s the clean energy moonshot that data centers crave as AI workloads explode, and it’s arriving with big names, big valuations, and bigger expectations. We unpack how purchase agreements sprint ahead of demonstrations, why some labs still haven’t shown sustained net energy gain in a grid-relevant way, and how governance, permitting, and insider networks shape who gets access to the future. If fusion fulfills even part of its promise—low-cost, reliable, carbon-free baseload—it will remake the energy map. If it falters, communities and ratepayers deserve clarity on the risks they were asked to shoulder.
Along the way, we talk trust: What would real transparency look like for fusion milestones? We close with a grounded human story—a teen found alive by a trained bloodhound after days in a ravine—to remind us that technology is ultimately about outcomes that matter to people.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
As a like civilian and uh like not rich person,
like a regular person likeeverybody else, it is so hard to
find information on fusion thatis not a scam or like trying to
take your money, and it's justbizarre.
It seems like a casino or like ablack hole of money, and like
(00:23):
they have the technology andit's ready, but they just keep
on taking people's money, andthey come out and they're like,
Oh, we need you to invest, weneed you to do this or that, but
they'll never actually put itout there.
(01:15):
I've got some stuff about thecomet uh coming through the
solar system, the three eyeatlas comet, as well as some
news about fusion, and thenwe're gonna have a rescue.
So let's get started.
Uh with the this strange cometgoing through the solar system.
(01:37):
WION news, which is like Indian,says Jupiter's strong
gravitational force will exertsuch a push on three eye atlas
that it will be moved out of itstrajectory as it makes its way
out of our solar system.
This one last striking encounterwill happen around March 16th,
2026.
(01:58):
A new preprint preprint papertried to understand the path the
interstellar comet will takewhile leaving.
Where its header and thepossible path that it brought it
here.
The researchers studied thelong-term orbital integration of
500 statistical clones of comet3i for hundreds of years in the
(02:21):
past and future, and found thatit's probably coming from the
Sagittarius constellation andgoing towards the Gemini
constellation.
But they're not sure yet.
And Dr.
Avi Loeb had released a blogpost on medium saying, in other
words, and this is just asegment of it after he talked
(02:43):
about some math, in other words,the non-gravitational
acceleration introduced a smallcourse correction of exactly the
magnitude needed to bring theminimum distance of three eye
atlas from Jupiter to the valueof Jupiter's hill radius.
Three eye atlas would havemissed the edge of the hill
sphere otherwise.
(03:05):
This suggests that the level ofnon-gravitational acceleration
was finely tuned to result inthe hill radius and bring three
eye atlas exactly to the radiusof Jupiter's gravitational
influence.
So he was suggesting this fivedays ago.
(03:26):
He then went on to continuefifteen hours ago if the rare
coincidence between the perigedistance of three eye atlas and
the hill radius willmaterialize, it might flag a
technological signature.
In that case, three eye atlascould release technological
devices as artificial satellitesof Jupiter, potentially at
(03:50):
Jupiter's Jupiter's Lagrangepoints, L1 and L2, on the hill
sphere where orbital correctionsand fuel requirements are
minimal.
Within the diameter of Jupiter'sorbit around the Sun, the
coincidence between the perjovedistance and the hill radius has
a statistical likelihood ofsmaller than.00004, which is
(04:17):
pretty fascinating.
So I'll talk about this somemore another time, but I just
wanted to put this out there forpeople to be thinking about.
And isn't it strange thatwhenever we were doing the laser
um internet story?
(04:37):
I think that was literally thefirst podcast episode I ever
did, was on them shootinginternet to Jupiter and playing
Netflix and cat videos, and thatthey they had like an amazing
bandwidth.
Isn't it kind of interestingthat they're saying that Avi
Loeb here is saying that likethere might be something about
(04:58):
Jupiter that this uh 3I Atlasmight be interested in, and that
we were also beaming ourinternet to that region of
space.
It seems like kind of a a bigcoincidence to me personally.
But uh so let's move on tofusion, uh fusion power, um,
(05:21):
which is like putting atomstogether rather than splitting
atoms for nuclear energy.
Everett-based Helion breaksground on world's first fusion
power plant.
This was July 30th, 2025, byKUOW.
Uh I guess it's local WashingtonNews.
(05:42):
On the banks of Columbia Riverin the small town of Malaga,
Washington, Everett-based Helionhas broken ground on what it
says is the first fusion powerplant.
Helion, a nuclear fusion startupbacked by Big Tech, said the
facility is prepared to begindelivering electricity generated
by nuclear fusion by 2028, andMicrosoft has already purchased
(06:05):
all of it.
Isn't it interesting that we hadthe small startup of the
individual guy who had like thecar accident, and that's how he
was like inspired to like finduh the stuff or or that was like
part of his journey, and doesn'tlook like Department of Energy
(06:28):
is playing ball with him or hiscompany, but then we hear we
have um Sam Altman and all thesecrazy people and Microsoft, all
these like evil people reallythat are in charge of fusion and
they're just getting to go buckwild with this sort of
technology.
It's very interesting how likethe layman person or the non
(06:52):
like ordained by the rich uhdon't get to have any sort of
power or electricity ortechnology, and they'll just
like cut you out of it.
And that that's something thatwith fusion that's frustrating
to me is that for all the restof us, uh fusion power is like a
gimmick or a snake oil salesman,or they're like uh always trying
(07:16):
to take your money, trying tolike have all these investment
opportunities, and it feels likea casino and that it's
predatory.
It's very, very predatory.
And I'll I'll talk about thatanother time, but I just wanted
to point that out that it's likeas far as for all everyday
people, it's very, verypredatory coming after us with
for our money and the way likewhat we're allowed to know about
(07:40):
this stuff.
Um, and yeah, we'll talk aboutthat another time, but uh and
elaborate on the on the snakeoil aspect of it in a different
article that's very long.
I I spent 45 minutes recordingit and didn't finish, and so
yeah, that's why I tried to dothis one a little shorter.
But uh, so yeah, like halfwaythrough a different one.
(08:02):
But I just wanted to point thisout that it's crazy.
Big tech can do fusion, butregular people can't.
And it's also interesting thatit goes to like a banking
aspect, which we've kind ofalready talked about, of these
giant investors um pickingbetween loans and like the
(08:24):
returns on the loans, and that'swhat this is all about, and them
playing all these games likethat.
So Helion chose centralWashington for the plant because
of the cluster of data centersthat will call the region home.
It's become a hotspot for themassive server farms that
underpin everything we do onlinebecause of an abundant, cheap
(08:45):
hydropower supplied by theColumbia River Dams.
And as I'm saying this, alsoremind yourself the fact that
Peter Thiel just sold off hisNVIDIA stock.
I think maybe Meta stock andlike all these other people are
thinking of selling off theirstocks.
(09:06):
Uh so we're like looking at apossible AI bubble, bigger than
the dot-com burst, bigger thanany of the other depressions or
recessions that we've had.
They're predicting this massivebubble to pop with artificial
intelligence.
And I feel like they're this ispart of them trying to keep that
(09:30):
bubble from from coming down isby like dripping fusion out uh
to inflate it even further.
Because they valuated fusioneven bigger than AI.
So anybody like way, way biggerthan AI.
Like this other article that I'mreading will talk about it, but
(09:53):
it's like if you were to add upAI and the internet and all of
these other things, like alladded together, and like cars,
even like they added like all ofthe major industries in the
world, and none of it added upto what fusion is valuated at.
So I think that it's gonna thisAI fusion bubble speculation
(10:16):
that's going on right nownationally, uh, has to do with
fusion as well, but people notas many people know that.
But as the artificialintelligence boom drives
unprecedented demand for evenlarger, more energy hungry data
centers, new sources of powerare needed.
The tech industry is pinning itshopes on fusion, which promises
(10:39):
to be cleaner and cheaper thantraditional nuclear power.
Fusion works by extremely highheat and pressure to fuse
nuclei, which is the sameprocess that happens on our sun.
Said Helion CEO, David Curtley.
This is the first time thatpeople are talking about and now
demonstrating that you can dofusion in a way that is
(11:02):
commercially relevant forelectricity that is low cost,
that is efficient, and that isreliable.
That's what we're showing, andthat's what we're building right
now.
I mean, I already read adifferent company that did it
first, but you know, they're notparted big tech, so they didn't
get selected.
Uh part of the Department ofDefense, aka Department of War,
(11:26):
and all these people had like abig sell-off of grants uh for uh
who got contract who gotcontracts on all these nuclear
facilities.
And yeah, it's just it's like arevolving door of nepotism.
Like you can only get thecontract if you know somebody
(11:48):
inside.
They're not willing to let likepeople in, really.
Very it's very, very rare.
It's like a secret society thatcontrols our electricity, if you
really think about it.
That's what I'm describing.
Like, people might not want todescribe it like that, it might
make them uncomfortable, but itis basically what we're talking
about.
And you could ask um uh who wasit that was killed uh Silkwood.
(12:17):
Was it Karen Silkwood uh thatwas killed by the energy
facility and energy companiesfor exposing like that the
nuclear techniques at the timewere not safe?
And she was a fellow Texan.
So, and I think that that thatgoes real deep, but that just
goes to show how big this energycabal secret society that has
(12:40):
all of this technology locked upin the Department of Energy with
all sorts of other technologies,uh, that that's how dirty these
people are and their behavior,that they're willing to just uh
kill whistleblowers.
Helion is leasing land from theChellen County Public Utilities
District that's part of its RockIsland Dam property.
(13:03):
The location is just up the roadfrom a new data center.
Microsoft is the process is inthe process of building in an
old Alcoa aluminum plant that'scurrently being dismantled.
It's a stark example ofindustries of the future moving
into a small town, filling thevoid left behind manufacturing,
though neither Helion nor thedata center will employ as many
(13:25):
people as the old plant did.
Helion expects to have about 10to 50 full-time employees.
Its focus is building a scalablerenewable power source to meet
growing energy needs and reducereliance on fossil fuels.
Our goal is to generate power atas as low as a cost as possible.
That's really interesting.
(13:47):
That's a now that's a good or uhuh a big statement.
We'll hold them to that.
That's very interesting.
I think that that said a lot.
And we'll have to connect moredots about that.
(14:07):
So this is from Reuters again,still in the same uh thing
Helion Energy is startup backedby OpenAI Sam Altman, and
SoftBank's Venture Capital Armhas started construction.
So this is who's funding it.
This is what I was saying thatlike it has to do with banking
(14:28):
and big AI, and Sam Altman's nota good guy.
Um, and that's who's in chargeof this, that's who gets access
to fusion, and they've had itlocked away for years, and now
all of a sudden they're lettingit leak out, and it's right as
the AI bubble is about to pop.
I'm telling you, it's not acoincidence.
It's it's linked togethersomehow, and people will
(14:52):
eventually figure it out.
So they're gonna build a nuclearfusion power plant that will
supply Microsoft, and remember,Microsoft is also getting the
Three Mile Island uh reactorwhere they had the the the like
American Chernobyl type event,or near not as bad, but like it
(15:13):
could have been, and thatthey're gonna turn it back on
for Microsoft.
Lovely, right?
And it says that the startup hasto secure final permits from
Washington government, and Ithink they already have by now,
I'm not 100%, but it says thatthey're gonna sell power to
Microsoft by 2028.
(15:34):
The deal was struck in 2023, andthis is what Reuters says, but
despite billions of dollarsinvestment, scientists and
engineers still have not figuredout a way to reliably generate
more energy than fusion than ittakes to create and sustain the
reaction.
Which I'm pretty sure that wehad done that like 10-15 years
(15:56):
ago.
Like publicly.
So that's kind of interesting.
Helion is still working on howto do that with its current
prototype called Polaris, whichis housed in Everett,
Washington, where it plans tobuild components for the machine
to be built at Malaga calledOrion.
Orion will connect toWashington's primary power
(16:17):
delivery networks.
David Curtley, Helion'sco-founder and CEO Toyed
Reuters, will actually be ableto connect to the exact same
grid just upstream of theMicrosoft data center.
Microsoft has for years saidthat nuclear energy should be
part of a mix of carbon-freeenergy sources and has also
(16:37):
signed power purchase agreementsfor convention conventional
fission-based nuclear power.
Fusion is the longer-term bet.
Melanie Nicagua, Microsoft ChiefSustainable Sustainability
Officer.
Over the last three, four years,you've been seeing across the
fusion space different types ofmilestones being met by other
(16:58):
companies and peers, Helionincluded.
There's a lot of optimism thatthis could be the moment that
fusion actually comes forwardwithin the decade or near this
decade.
And I'll put this in anotherepisode, but uh the Senate House
Select Committee, or one ofthose like select committees on
(17:20):
energy uh had an open meetingwhere they talked for like three
hours, and like one of the firstthings they did was they came
out and they jokingly said, Oh,yeah, every ten years they say
fusion's gonna come out, andlike we just keep on putting
money in and nothing happens,and they all just started
(17:40):
laughing.
Oh ho ho ho ho.
And I don't know.
I think I know that the DOE hashad this technology for longer
than they're saying publicly.
Do the people in the energyselect committee know about what
(18:00):
is hidden behind DOE's stuff?
I'm not sure.
But the fact that they were likemaking it a joke, it almost
seemed like they were laughingat us.
And they were just like, Yeah,we take their money for 10
years, 20 years, 30 years, 40years, 50 years.
We'll just take their money andwe're not gonna release it until
(18:21):
we're ready.
And I don't know, like the thething was just kind of creepy.
Like, I haven't watched the fullthing, but just from the first
five minutes I saw it wasbizarre.
So it's also strange that wehave these energy select
committees openly talking aboutthe release of fusion right now,
(18:45):
and that says a lot too.
So we're gonna we're gonna needto go back and look into that as
well.
Uh, I haven't I haven't watchedit, so I don't know what they
say other than the first fiveminutes, but I watched that and
had to pause it, and I was like,wow, I'm gonna have to pay
attention to this and actuallywatch it.
So uh I haven't played a rescuein a while, so I'm gonna do
(19:09):
that.
Uh teen has been missing forthree days and needed a miracle,
a dog came to the rescue.
So we'll listen to this realquick and end it out here.
SPEAKER_04 (19:19):
Just hours ago, a St.
Francis County teen had thechance to thank the canine who
saved his life.
14-year-old Cody Trankel spentmore than three days trapped in
a ravine this summer before acorrections dog named Daryl
tracked him down.
Today, Cody got to meet hishero.
Five in your sides, MeganKernan, brings us this exclusive
story from Farmington.
SPEAKER_03 (19:40):
A reunion.
More than a month in the making.
14-year-old Cody Trankel finallymeeting K9 Daryl, the
four-legged hero whose nose ledrescuers straight to him.
SPEAKER_00 (19:51):
I got to meet the dog to save my life.
SPEAKER_03 (19:53):
Just four weeks ago, Cody was fighting for his life.
On July 27th, after askateboarding accident, he
tumbled 240 feet into a ravinenear his home by Goose Creek
Lake.
For nearly 80 hours, Cody'sfamily and volunteers searched
for him.
SPEAKER_00 (20:09):
I've been told that if I had to spend a couple more
hours down there, I wouldn'thave made it.
SPEAKER_03 (20:16):
Then the six-year-old bloodhound from the
Farmington Correctional Centerwas given a pair of Cody's
shoes.
Within 20 minutes, he put thatwell-bred nose to work, dragging
the scent straight to Cody,lying in a foot of water, badly
injured, but alive.
SPEAKER_00 (20:33):
Because of him, 20 minutes, man.
I'm impressed.
SPEAKER_03 (20:37):
Seeing Cody get to meet him is pretty amazing.
These canines go through yearsof training to do exactly what
Daryl did the day Cody wasrescued.
Drac sends through water, woods,and steep terrain.
It's that training that turned asearch into a life-saving
mission.
SPEAKER_02 (20:52):
20 minutes on a three-day track, that's almost
like unheard of.
As a parent myself and14-year-old, um sorry, a little
emotional.
So this is best case scenariobecause he was found still
alive.
SPEAKER_03 (21:06):
I had put all my faith knowing that Daryl was
gonna find Cody.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (21:11):
Thanks, Bubboys.
SPEAKER_03 (21:13):
Cody spent 11 days in a coma, a month in the ICU,
and is still in rehab.
But today, he's back at schooland a little closer to being a
kid again.
SPEAKER_00 (21:23):
Just gotta get the head healed and then I'm Cody
again.
SPEAKER_03 (21:26):
Reporting in Farmington.
Megan Kernan, five on your side.
SPEAKER_01 (21:32):
Wow.
That is incredible.
Definitely a miracle.
Uh so yeah, plans.
Uh I'm gonna finish up that longepisode on fusion uh on a
different company.
And I guess I can talk just alittle bit about that in that um
(21:55):
as a like civilian and uh likenot rich person, like a regular
person like everybody else, itis so hard to find information
on fusion that is not a scam orlike trying to take your money,
and it's just bizarre.
It seems like a casino or like ablack hole of money, and like
(22:18):
they have the technology andit's ready, but they just keep
on taking people's money, andthey come out and they're like,
Oh, we need you to invest, weneed you to do this or that, but
they'll never actually put itout there.
I don't know, it's justextremely frustrating for me to
see all of these differentfusion companies all coming up
(22:41):
at once, and we're still likeleft in the dark as a public.
They're still trying to take ourmoney, and we have Microsoft and
and OpenAI and Sam Aldman andbanks building fusion power
plants, but they still want ourmoney.
It just doesn't make any sense,and it's so frustrating.
(23:04):
But I am looking forward tomaking some more uh stuff on
that, and I think it's gonna bevery interesting and
enlightening.
I also have some surprisescoming uh soon, so yeah, stick
around and be looking for morestuff.
Uh super busy, but we'll keep ontrying to make stuff, especially
(23:30):
like shorter ones like this, area lot easier to put out.
I tried to make the other oneshorter, and I didn't realize
that it was gonna turn into awhole big thing.
But alright.
Um hope you guys enjoy and besafe out there, safe travels,
and I'll be making some morestuff next week.
(23:50):
Adios, I'm gonna go to thehouse.
As a like civilian and uh like not rich person,
like a regular person likeeverybody else, it is so hard to
find information on fusion thatis not a scam or like trying to
take your money, and it's justbizarre.
It seems like a casino or like ablack hole of money, and like
(00:23):
they have the technology andit's ready, but they just keep
on taking people's money, andthey come out and they're like,
Oh, we need you to invest, weneed you to do this or that, but
they'll never actually put itout there.
(01:15):
I've got some stuff about thecomet uh coming through the
solar system, the three eyeatlas comet, as well as some
news about fusion, and thenwe're gonna have a rescue.
So let's get started.
Uh with the this strange cometgoing through the solar system.
(01:37):
WION news, which is like Indian,says Jupiter's strong
gravitational force will exertsuch a push on three eye atlas
that it will be moved out of itstrajectory as it makes its way
out of our solar system.
This one last striking encounterwill happen around March 16th,
2026.
(01:58):
A new preprint preprint papertried to understand the path the
interstellar comet will takewhile leaving.
Where its header and thepossible path that it brought it
here.
The researchers studied thelong-term orbital integration of
500 statistical clones of comet3i for hundreds of years in the
(02:21):
past and future, and found thatit's probably coming from the
Sagittarius constellation andgoing towards the Gemini
constellation.
But they're not sure yet.
And Dr.
Avi Loeb had released a blogpost on medium saying, in other
words, and this is just asegment of it after he talked
(02:43):
about some math, in other words,the non-gravitational
acceleration introduced a smallcourse correction of exactly the
magnitude needed to bring theminimum distance of three eye
atlas from Jupiter to the valueof Jupiter's hill radius.
Three eye atlas would havemissed the edge of the hill
sphere otherwise.
(03:05):
This suggests that the level ofnon-gravitational acceleration
was finely tuned to result inthe hill radius and bring three
eye atlas exactly to the radiusof Jupiter's gravitational
influence.
So he was suggesting this fivedays ago.
(03:26):
He then went on to continuefifteen hours ago if the rare
coincidence between the perigedistance of three eye atlas and
the hill radius willmaterialize, it might flag a
technological signature.
In that case, three eye atlascould release technological
devices as artificial satellitesof Jupiter, potentially at
(03:50):
Jupiter's Jupiter's Lagrangepoints, L1 and L2, on the hill
sphere where orbital correctionsand fuel requirements are
minimal.
Within the diameter of Jupiter'sorbit around the Sun, the
coincidence between the perjovedistance and the hill radius has
a statistical likelihood ofsmaller than.00004, which is
(04:17):
pretty fascinating.
So I'll talk about this somemore another time, but I just
wanted to put this out there forpeople to be thinking about.
And isn't it strange thatwhenever we were doing the laser
um internet story?
(04:37):
I think that was literally thefirst podcast episode I ever
did, was on them shootinginternet to Jupiter and playing
Netflix and cat videos, and thatthey they had like an amazing
bandwidth.
Isn't it kind of interestingthat they're saying that Avi
Loeb here is saying that likethere might be something about
(04:58):
Jupiter that this uh 3I Atlasmight be interested in, and that
we were also beaming ourinternet to that region of
space.
It seems like kind of a a bigcoincidence to me personally.
But uh so let's move on tofusion, uh fusion power, um,
(05:21):
which is like putting atomstogether rather than splitting
atoms for nuclear energy.
Everett-based Helion breaksground on world's first fusion
power plant.
This was July 30th, 2025, byKUOW.
Uh I guess it's local WashingtonNews.
(05:42):
On the banks of Columbia Riverin the small town of Malaga,
Washington, Everett-based Helionhas broken ground on what it
says is the first fusion powerplant.
Helion, a nuclear fusion startupbacked by Big Tech, said the
facility is prepared to begindelivering electricity generated
by nuclear fusion by 2028, andMicrosoft has already purchased
(06:05):
all of it.
Isn't it interesting that we hadthe small startup of the
individual guy who had like thecar accident, and that's how he
was like inspired to like finduh the stuff or or that was like
part of his journey, and doesn'tlook like Department of Energy
(06:28):
is playing ball with him or hiscompany, but then we hear we
have um Sam Altman and all thesecrazy people and Microsoft, all
these like evil people reallythat are in charge of fusion and
they're just getting to go buckwild with this sort of
technology.
It's very interesting how likethe layman person or the non
(06:52):
like ordained by the rich uhdon't get to have any sort of
power or electricity ortechnology, and they'll just
like cut you out of it.
And that that's something thatwith fusion that's frustrating
to me is that for all the restof us, uh fusion power is like a
gimmick or a snake oil salesman,or they're like uh always trying
(07:16):
to take your money, trying tolike have all these investment
opportunities, and it feels likea casino and that it's
predatory.
It's very, very predatory.
And I'll I'll talk about thatanother time, but I just wanted
to point that out that it's likeas far as for all everyday
people, it's very, verypredatory coming after us with
for our money and the way likewhat we're allowed to know about
(07:40):
this stuff.
Um, and yeah, we'll talk aboutthat another time, but uh and
elaborate on the on the snakeoil aspect of it in a different
article that's very long.
I I spent 45 minutes recordingit and didn't finish, and so
yeah, that's why I tried to dothis one a little shorter.
But uh, so yeah, like halfwaythrough a different one.
(08:02):
But I just wanted to point thisout that it's crazy.
Big tech can do fusion, butregular people can't.
And it's also interesting thatit goes to like a banking
aspect, which we've kind ofalready talked about, of these
giant investors um pickingbetween loans and like the
(08:24):
returns on the loans, and that'swhat this is all about, and them
playing all these games likethat.
So Helion chose centralWashington for the plant because
of the cluster of data centersthat will call the region home.
It's become a hotspot for themassive server farms that
underpin everything we do onlinebecause of an abundant, cheap
(08:45):
hydropower supplied by theColumbia River Dams.
And as I'm saying this, alsoremind yourself the fact that
Peter Thiel just sold off hisNVIDIA stock.
I think maybe Meta stock andlike all these other people are
thinking of selling off theirstocks.
(09:06):
Uh so we're like looking at apossible AI bubble, bigger than
the dot-com burst, bigger thanany of the other depressions or
recessions that we've had.
They're predicting this massivebubble to pop with artificial
intelligence.
And I feel like they're this ispart of them trying to keep that
(09:30):
bubble from from coming down isby like dripping fusion out uh
to inflate it even further.
Because they valuated fusioneven bigger than AI.
So anybody like way, way biggerthan AI.
Like this other article that I'mreading will talk about it, but
(09:53):
it's like if you were to add upAI and the internet and all of
these other things, like alladded together, and like cars,
even like they added like all ofthe major industries in the
world, and none of it added upto what fusion is valuated at.
So I think that it's gonna thisAI fusion bubble speculation
(10:16):
that's going on right nownationally, uh, has to do with
fusion as well, but people notas many people know that.
But as the artificialintelligence boom drives
unprecedented demand for evenlarger, more energy hungry data
centers, new sources of powerare needed.
The tech industry is pinning itshopes on fusion, which promises
(10:39):
to be cleaner and cheaper thantraditional nuclear power.
Fusion works by extremely highheat and pressure to fuse
nuclei, which is the sameprocess that happens on our sun.
Said Helion CEO, David Curtley.
This is the first time thatpeople are talking about and now
demonstrating that you can dofusion in a way that is
(11:02):
commercially relevant forelectricity that is low cost,
that is efficient, and that isreliable.
That's what we're showing, andthat's what we're building right
now.
I mean, I already read adifferent company that did it
first, but you know, they're notparted big tech, so they didn't
get selected.
Uh part of the Department ofDefense, aka Department of War,
(11:26):
and all these people had like abig sell-off of grants uh for uh
who got contract who gotcontracts on all these nuclear
facilities.
And yeah, it's just it's like arevolving door of nepotism.
Like you can only get thecontract if you know somebody
(11:48):
inside.
They're not willing to let likepeople in, really.
Very it's very, very rare.
It's like a secret society thatcontrols our electricity, if you
really think about it.
That's what I'm describing.
Like, people might not want todescribe it like that, it might
make them uncomfortable, but itis basically what we're talking
about.
And you could ask um uh who wasit that was killed uh Silkwood.
(12:17):
Was it Karen Silkwood uh thatwas killed by the energy
facility and energy companiesfor exposing like that the
nuclear techniques at the timewere not safe?
And she was a fellow Texan.
So, and I think that that thatgoes real deep, but that just
goes to show how big this energycabal secret society that has
(12:40):
all of this technology locked upin the Department of Energy with
all sorts of other technologies,uh, that that's how dirty these
people are and their behavior,that they're willing to just uh
kill whistleblowers.
Helion is leasing land from theChellen County Public Utilities
District that's part of its RockIsland Dam property.
(13:03):
The location is just up the roadfrom a new data center.
Microsoft is the process is inthe process of building in an
old Alcoa aluminum plant that'scurrently being dismantled.
It's a stark example ofindustries of the future moving
into a small town, filling thevoid left behind manufacturing,
though neither Helion nor thedata center will employ as many
(13:25):
people as the old plant did.
Helion expects to have about 10to 50 full-time employees.
Its focus is building a scalablerenewable power source to meet
growing energy needs and reducereliance on fossil fuels.
Our goal is to generate power atas as low as a cost as possible.
That's really interesting.
(13:47):
That's a now that's a good or uhuh a big statement.
We'll hold them to that.
That's very interesting.
I think that that said a lot.
And we'll have to connect moredots about that.
(14:07):
So this is from Reuters again,still in the same uh thing
Helion Energy is startup backedby OpenAI Sam Altman, and
SoftBank's Venture Capital Armhas started construction.
So this is who's funding it.
This is what I was saying thatlike it has to do with banking
(14:28):
and big AI, and Sam Altman's nota good guy.
Um, and that's who's in chargeof this, that's who gets access
to fusion, and they've had itlocked away for years, and now
all of a sudden they're lettingit leak out, and it's right as
the AI bubble is about to pop.
I'm telling you, it's not acoincidence.
It's it's linked togethersomehow, and people will
(14:52):
eventually figure it out.
So they're gonna build a nuclearfusion power plant that will
supply Microsoft, and remember,Microsoft is also getting the
Three Mile Island uh reactorwhere they had the the the like
American Chernobyl type event,or near not as bad, but like it
(15:13):
could have been, and thatthey're gonna turn it back on
for Microsoft.
Lovely, right?
And it says that the startup hasto secure final permits from
Washington government, and Ithink they already have by now,
I'm not 100%, but it says thatthey're gonna sell power to
Microsoft by 2028.
(15:34):
The deal was struck in 2023, andthis is what Reuters says, but
despite billions of dollarsinvestment, scientists and
engineers still have not figuredout a way to reliably generate
more energy than fusion than ittakes to create and sustain the
reaction.
Which I'm pretty sure that wehad done that like 10-15 years
(15:56):
ago.
Like publicly.
So that's kind of interesting.
Helion is still working on howto do that with its current
prototype called Polaris, whichis housed in Everett,
Washington, where it plans tobuild components for the machine
to be built at Malaga calledOrion.
Orion will connect toWashington's primary power
(16:17):
delivery networks.
David Curtley, Helion'sco-founder and CEO Toyed
Reuters, will actually be ableto connect to the exact same
grid just upstream of theMicrosoft data center.
Microsoft has for years saidthat nuclear energy should be
part of a mix of carbon-freeenergy sources and has also
(16:37):
signed power purchase agreementsfor convention conventional
fission-based nuclear power.
Fusion is the longer-term bet.
Melanie Nicagua, Microsoft ChiefSustainable Sustainability
Officer.
Over the last three, four years,you've been seeing across the
fusion space different types ofmilestones being met by other
(16:58):
companies and peers, Helionincluded.
There's a lot of optimism thatthis could be the moment that
fusion actually comes forwardwithin the decade or near this
decade.
And I'll put this in anotherepisode, but uh the Senate House
Select Committee, or one ofthose like select committees on
(17:20):
energy uh had an open meetingwhere they talked for like three
hours, and like one of the firstthings they did was they came
out and they jokingly said, Oh,yeah, every ten years they say
fusion's gonna come out, andlike we just keep on putting
money in and nothing happens,and they all just started
(17:40):
laughing.
Oh ho ho ho ho.
And I don't know.
I think I know that the DOE hashad this technology for longer
than they're saying publicly.
Do the people in the energyselect committee know about what
(18:00):
is hidden behind DOE's stuff?
I'm not sure.
But the fact that they were likemaking it a joke, it almost
seemed like they were laughingat us.
And they were just like, Yeah,we take their money for 10
years, 20 years, 30 years, 40years, 50 years.
We'll just take their money andwe're not gonna release it until
(18:21):
we're ready.
And I don't know, like the thething was just kind of creepy.
Like, I haven't watched the fullthing, but just from the first
five minutes I saw it wasbizarre.
So it's also strange that wehave these energy select
committees openly talking aboutthe release of fusion right now,
(18:45):
and that says a lot too.
So we're gonna we're gonna needto go back and look into that as
well.
Uh, I haven't I haven't watchedit, so I don't know what they
say other than the first fiveminutes, but I watched that and
had to pause it, and I was like,wow, I'm gonna have to pay
attention to this and actuallywatch it.
So uh I haven't played a rescuein a while, so I'm gonna do
(19:09):
that.
Uh teen has been missing forthree days and needed a miracle,
a dog came to the rescue.
So we'll listen to this realquick and end it out here.
SPEAKER_04 (19:19):
Just hours ago, a St.
Francis County teen had thechance to thank the canine who
saved his life.
14-year-old Cody Trankel spentmore than three days trapped in
a ravine this summer before acorrections dog named Daryl
tracked him down.
Today, Cody got to meet hishero.
Five in your sides, MeganKernan, brings us this exclusive
story from Farmington.
SPEAKER_03 (19:40):
A reunion.
More than a month in the making.
14-year-old Cody Trankel finallymeeting K9 Daryl, the
four-legged hero whose nose ledrescuers straight to him.
SPEAKER_00 (19:51):
I got to meet the dog to save my life.
SPEAKER_03 (19:53):
Just four weeks ago, Cody was fighting for his life.
On July 27th, after askateboarding accident, he
tumbled 240 feet into a ravinenear his home by Goose Creek
Lake.
For nearly 80 hours, Cody'sfamily and volunteers searched
for him.
SPEAKER_00 (20:09):
I've been told that if I had to spend a couple more
hours down there, I wouldn'thave made it.
SPEAKER_03 (20:16):
Then the six-year-old bloodhound from the
Farmington Correctional Centerwas given a pair of Cody's
shoes.
Within 20 minutes, he put thatwell-bred nose to work, dragging
the scent straight to Cody,lying in a foot of water, badly
injured, but alive.
SPEAKER_00 (20:33):
Because of him, 20 minutes, man.
I'm impressed.
SPEAKER_03 (20:37):
Seeing Cody get to meet him is pretty amazing.
These canines go through yearsof training to do exactly what
Daryl did the day Cody wasrescued.
Drac sends through water, woods,and steep terrain.
It's that training that turned asearch into a life-saving
mission.
SPEAKER_02 (20:52):
20 minutes on a three-day track, that's almost
like unheard of.
As a parent myself and14-year-old, um sorry, a little
emotional.
So this is best case scenariobecause he was found still
alive.
SPEAKER_03 (21:06):
I had put all my faith knowing that Daryl was
gonna find Cody.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (21:11):
Thanks, Bubboys.
SPEAKER_03 (21:13):
Cody spent 11 days in a coma, a month in the ICU,
and is still in rehab.
But today, he's back at schooland a little closer to being a
kid again.
SPEAKER_00 (21:23):
Just gotta get the head healed and then I'm Cody
again.
SPEAKER_03 (21:26):
Reporting in Farmington.
Megan Kernan, five on your side.
SPEAKER_01 (21:32):
Wow.
That is incredible.
Definitely a miracle.
Uh so yeah, plans.
Uh I'm gonna finish up that longepisode on fusion uh on a
different company.
And I guess I can talk just alittle bit about that in that um
(21:55):
as a like civilian and uh likenot rich person, like a regular
person like everybody else, itis so hard to find information
on fusion that is not a scam orlike trying to take your money,
and it's just bizarre.
It seems like a casino or like ablack hole of money, and like
(22:18):
they have the technology andit's ready, but they just keep
on taking people's money, andthey come out and they're like,
Oh, we need you to invest, weneed you to do this or that, but
they'll never actually put itout there.
I don't know, it's justextremely frustrating for me to
see all of these differentfusion companies all coming up
(22:41):
at once, and we're still likeleft in the dark as a public.
They're still trying to take ourmoney, and we have Microsoft and
and OpenAI and Sam Aldman andbanks building fusion power
plants, but they still want ourmoney.
It just doesn't make any sense,and it's so frustrating.
(23:04):
But I am looking forward tomaking some more uh stuff on
that, and I think it's gonna bevery interesting and
enlightening.
I also have some surprisescoming uh soon, so yeah, stick
around and be looking for morestuff.
Uh super busy, but we'll keep ontrying to make stuff, especially
(23:30):
like shorter ones like this, area lot easier to put out.
I tried to make the other oneshorter, and I didn't realize
that it was gonna turn into awhole big thing.
But alright.
Um hope you guys enjoy and besafe out there, safe travels,
and I'll be making some morestuff next week.
(23:50):
Adios, I'm gonna go to thehouse.
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