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October 15, 2021 40 mins

Hello friends! Nick sits down with senior chaplain for U.S. Special Operations Command, Dave Bowlus.

He and I reflect on the low points and high points of his ministry over the last 20 years, and chat about how families might “keep the wheels on the bus” in the midst of military life. 

As a reminder: The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speaker(s), and do not necessarily represent the views of the DoD or its components. 



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