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December 21, 2023 75 mins

Ever felt weighed down by expectations that suppress your true self?  Join me along with my dear friends who are wonderful practitioners, Judy Bettencourt and Alyssa Huntley.  We embark on an enlightening journey and talk about how the collective has been dismantling the 'false matrix' and how we get the opportunity to step into our true authenticity and personal power now like never before.

Together, we discuss societal norms that have constrained us in the past and share transformative insights that will inspire you to align with our core essence, revealing how quantum healing hypnosis and the emerging wisdom of light workers can illuminate paths previously shrouded in shadows.

As we approach this new year's vibrant energies, our conversation dances through the importance of joy, the conscious shedding of drama and how we can transmute past programed identities into our personal power.

We talk about the complexities of channeling, the art of facing fears with grace and the recognition of emotional shadows as hallmarks of a reality we're poised to transcend. Judy and Alyssa, with their rich tapestry of experiences, offer wisdom that will inspire you to maintain spiritual integrity while ascending to higher planes of consciousness.

As the energies shift with the turning of the calendar, we reflect on our profound potential both individually and collectively. With heartfelt appreciation, we delve into our shared experiences, placing importance on nurturing the bonds within our community.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Integrate Yourself, everybody.
I'm your host, alison Palau,and you can find me at
finallythrivingprogramcom andallacinpalaucom.
Today I have a very specialshow.
I'm here with two of my reallygood friends, judy Bettencourt
and Alyssa Huntley, and we aregonna talk about some really fun

(00:22):
things today.
We have these weeklyconversations that we always do
together, and we all had theidea of just coming together on
a podcast and talking about someof these topics that we talk
about together, and this isgonna be so much fun.
We're gonna be talking about howto step into our power and the

(00:43):
energies of the new year.
There's a lot going on with theenergies.
We're gonna be talking aboutthat today Dismantling the false
matrix which has been happening.
We've been doing this for Idon't know, the past two or
three years now, and reallyexciting things are happening
because of that.
And then we're gonna be alsotalking about how to channel

(01:05):
your authentic self.
Channeling has been a big topiclately.
I've heard people talk about it, with the spiritual people
coming out talking about moreand more about spirituality.
There's a lot of influencersout there talking about it.
There's people who wanna juststep into the channeling realm,
and we're gonna talk about morehow you can do that with your

(01:27):
authentic self rather thanstepping out to let something
else in.
So I'm so excited to talk toyou guys today.
We're gonna start by justintroducing.
I want you guys to justintroduce yourself.
Tell my listeners a little bitmore about yourself too.
Whatever you'd like to share.
We can start with Alyssa onthat one.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Thanks.
I'm excited to be here and Ilove being with you guys, so I'm
super honored about this.
I have a business called 1111Full Circle Healing where I do
basically connect in with highersource and just assist people
in being their best selves, youknow, aligning with their true

(02:14):
authenticity, healing pieces ofthe past and just really
stepping into their own lightand power and being the most
radiant beings that they can be.
And a lot coming in right nowwith like holding the leaders
who are really like holding alot of space for whatever this
next wave is that's coming, justbeing that kind of background

(02:35):
support that really helps tokeep everyone aligned.
That's me.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh, thanks, alyssa.
That's beautiful, judy.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I don't even know what to say.
Okay, I know we can edit, soit's cool.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Overall amazing human .
Yes.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
So a little about me.
I have a regular 3D kind of jobduring the day that I do, but
have been exploring spiritualityfor literally 40 years and over
this last year or so I havereally gotten into the quantum
healing hypnosis a differentversion than what some people

(03:25):
know.
But I've been doing that andjust really enjoying exploring
and helping people empowerthemselves to learn and heal for
themselves, versus giving ourpower away.
So I just find that it's beenreally fascinating and very
rewarding to do and yeah, that'sbeautiful.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Thank you, judy.
Yeah, we all know each otherthrough our work with Roseanne
Grace, who's been on the show acouple of times, and we've been
through a lot together this pastthree years, and so that's why
we started just meeting andtalking about what was going on.
So that's been a beautifulthing that's come from that.

(04:07):
And we also talked before theshow started about how, as
lightworkers, it's sometimeshard to put yourself out there,
because many of us have been inthe background just kind of
hiding out, seeing what'shappening, doing all the behind
the scenes work.
But now it's really what I'mseeing for myself and for other

(04:27):
lightworkers is it's time tostart to step out more and
really share this informationwith people, because this is
gonna be something that, eventhough they might not be aware
of, there's gonna be a lot ofthings that come through that
they're gonna need to understandmore.
So, really, as it relates tothemselves, as the energy shifts

(04:50):
, and that those are really thetopics that we're gonna get into
today about that.
So the first topic I wonderwhere we should start, actually,
because these are all really,really big topics.
Why don't we start withdismantling the false matrix?
Because I think, alyssa, whydon't you start with just

(05:14):
talking about the false matrixand what that has been, what
that has symbolized with us.
Like Judy mentioned 3D job andwe think about.
Some people may be like whatdoes that mean, 3d?
But we have been in a 3D worldfor some time and so we're

(05:36):
really just looking at ourselvesnow from a broader perspective
and so that's, I think, what ismoving into the other dimensions
of reality, as we're justseeing more aspects of our self
as a multi-dimensional being andthen we're bringing that into
the wholeness of who we are.

(05:57):
But I will let you know, I'lllet Alyssa start with that one,
her take on it.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, sure.
So it is an interesting one tospeak on and it's so fascinating
that you say, like, as lightworkers were meant to, like,
come out and shine now, becausethat's a big piece of also.
What I'm feeling for this newyear is there's been this
hesitancy to talk about thatdarkness that we see kind of in
the world, but there's been thisundercurrent of like, play

(06:28):
small, play safe, like we dothings out of fear, we do things
out of control, we do thingsout of feeling like we should so
much of the time, and it's likethere's this upside down world
that almost like when you goalong with society, it's kind of
like a lot of the time it feelslike we're going against our
inner nature, if that makessense.

(06:49):
It feels like it's kind ofanti-nature.
You can look at, like the foodsin the health food store or how
the medical system can work,sometimes right, like, yes,
there's blessings there, yes,there's not such great things
there, but it's like there's allof this like upside downness,
or even I don't like talkingabout this one, but like a lot
of the people that are in power,there's a lot of masquerading

(07:11):
as light, but they're really notlight, they're kind of
anti-light.
So this is what I kind of feel.
This false matrix is that likewe've just been living in
survival so long and I know allof a sudden, like you talk about
finally thriving it's like outof that survival and into the
thriving.
I feel like like the falsematrix is just like the stuff

(07:33):
that feels against nature.
If we're just going to put itlike real simple, like when
we're in harmony with nature,that's life, that's the real
reality, right when we're inalignment with ourself and what
we really feel inside, withoutyou know all the stories or
beliefs or dogmas or whateverelse.
That's there.
That's when we're in like ourtruth, or that's when we're in

(07:56):
our peace, so that's when we'rein our harmony.
But it feels like for most ofthe people I know and I work
with, like it's a journey tomove through that heaviness and
I feel like that heaviness isjust something that's kind of
like been put upon the world andI think we have like dismantled
the original darkness, if thatmakes sense.

(08:18):
But I think there's still a lotof programs that are going on
unconsciously and more and morepeople are starting to wake up.
So I don't think the darknesshas the power that maybe it once
had, if that's fair to say.
I think it's just pattern andpatterning and programming.
And I think as more of us startto wake up and own our power
and like kind of shake off andlike come out of the dream or

(08:40):
out of the nightmare Again, likethat vibration and frequency
shifts and everybody else getsto shift pretty easy.
But I feel like that matrix isjust a piece that we've all had
to kind of like walk through themud through, if that makes any
sense.
It's like there's been a lot ofstruggle and that's just been

(09:01):
the way it is, you know.
Yeah so an illusion.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, they say the illusion is that and it's like
you're saying, the reversal ofwhat's natural, really, kind of,
and if you look at the world,you can see that everywhere
You're like, wait a minute, thisisn't, it's not organic and
natural to do the things thatwe've been doing for so long
that we just accept in our lifethat it's normal, right, but I

(09:27):
think so many people arerealizing that that's not normal
and they wanna be living adifferent way and doing things
differently.
And I also heard somethingrecently that really resonated
about how, yes, the darkness hasbeen dismantled, but we still

(09:47):
hold the darkness within us tobe, you know, transmuted.
We're still on that path, Ithink most of 2023, we've been
doing that, and that's mainlybecause we're just many people
are, even though the darkness orthe control that was once there
that kept them in that mode,they're still running on the

(10:09):
same patterns that they werebefore, because it feels
familiar, right, and so that'swhere I think the awareness
comes in.
Is okay, is this really workingfor me?
Could I do this differently?
How could I empower myself andnot just, you know, fall into
the old patterns of what I'vebeen doing most of my life?

(10:29):
That hasn't been working for meor it's keeping me in a victim
hood or a, you know, saviorcomplex, or even a persecutor,
perpetrator kind of complex, sothat you know, that whole thing,
I feel like, is all part of thefalse matrix, these
personalities that arecharacteristics that we take on.

(10:51):
So, yes, judy, I want to loveto hear what you have to say
about all this.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, I think that all of us, from very early on,
it's natural, or we've beenprogrammed or indoctrinated, or
whatever word you want to use,to give our power away.
We're not smart enough to takecare of our own health, so we

(11:18):
need to outsource it to someoneelse.
We, you know, we need to giveit to teachers because we can't
educate ourselves.
We have to give it to religionbecause we aren't, we don't,
can't connect directly to theGod source.

(11:39):
Everything in life has been giveyour power away because there's
somebody else that is smarterthan you, that knows more than
you, and so that now that matrix, that illusion, is going away
and we're starting to realizethat the people that we've given
our power to not always in ourbest interest right, yeah, you

(12:02):
know, mostly not in our bestinterest and a lot of people are
now waking up to that and goingwait a minute, you know
everything that we've been told.
Is that really the truth, or wasthat to benefit the person who
is in power?
And so that whole illusionseems to be going away.

(12:25):
Now People are waking up.
They're waking up to the factthat we do have power.
We do have that God sourcewithin us.
The God source is not anoutside source.
So many of us have beenprogrammed to think that God is
outside of us and we have tolook outside to get our answers

(12:49):
or to get guidance or get ourconfirmations, when in fact God
is within each one of us.
And so if we stop reachingoutside and going within, we
will get the answers, and we'llget the true, pure answers,
versus the filtered answers thatwe've gotten because of this

(13:12):
matrix.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I love that.
I love it, yes, because we do,and that's I think that's part
of the old patterning is likesearching for the connection
outside of yourself and notrealizing that you have that
connection from within.
We kind of it's kind of likewhen the rug gets pulled out
from under you're like you feelthere's a void and you're

(13:35):
freaking out because you don'thave any sense of connection.
But what I think is happeningis we are now able to connect
with what you're talking about,judy, with that source God
consciousness in a way that weweren't able to do before.

(13:56):
I don't think it was that asaccessible because in a way, the
way I've heard it explained isthere was, there was kind of
like a frequency that waspreventing us or blocking us
from having that deeperconnection.
That's why I feel like I feellike it was always so hard, it
felt like spiritual work wasalways, you know, arduous and

(14:16):
it's in years and you know it'sjust all these, this work to
just learn how to find thatconnection from within.
But I think now it's it's mucheasier.
It's just that we, number one,have are going into old patterns
of reaching outside of our selffor that connection.
And then, number two.

(14:38):
I think there's a lot ofdistractions in the world,
there's a lot of things that aretrying to distract us from
really being with ourself andfeeling that connection.
So you know, and there's somany theories out there I mean,
if you go down the conspiracyrabbit hole or even down a lot
of this, the spiritual talkthese days, you know it talk

(15:03):
about, you know, negative aliensand all of that, that kind of
and you know, it's not that Idon't.
I really think there could be alot of truth to that.
Nobody really knows, right.
But at the same time, if wekeep blaming our outside world
for what we're, for what we'regoing through, or for our own

(15:25):
power, not realizing our ownpower, then we're gonna.
You know, it's good tounderstand what's happened.
You need to have that spiritualmaturity and at the same time
then start to take the steps totake responsibility for yourself
that way.
So we have to find the balancethere right.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, it's time to eliminate, yeah, the victim
mentality and quit waiting forsomeone else to save us, whether
it's exactly yeah, it's, that'sjust so big.
Everybody's like, well, whensomebody else does this for me,
I'll be okay, or when the alienscome to save us, I'm gonna be

(16:05):
okay, or when, whoever is gonnado whatever I'm gonna, you know,
then I'll be okay.
But it the reality is, nothingchanges unless we change.
So it doesn't matter all theseexterior influences, it doesn't
matter.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
It's getting off that drama triangle, right.
A victim, villain, hero.
Anytime we're on that, we'regiving our power away, right, so
it's fully getting off that.
So everybody gets to stand intheir power and yeah, no one
gets to stop the blame shameguilt.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
You've talked about that before, alyssa, about the
victim villain, hero.
That triangle and Allison and Iwere talking a couple of weeks
ago and I wrote it down becauseI just thought it was so cool we
came up with, instead of thatold victim villain who was the
last one victim hero, yeah, yeah, it's now power, support and

(17:02):
love.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Can you explain further how you're like
utilizing it as a tool?
But the draw beautiful so sopower now.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
So we have the power.
Yes, okay we are now supported,yes, and it's all based in love
, so we don't have to be thevictim, we don't have to be
anything anymore, so it's likethat's.
It's like that's the newtriangle.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Beautiful.
I love it yeah, I remember.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
It also feels like it just gets to be like this
bright light that just shinesfrom inside of you, like it
doesn't even have to be atriangle.
It just gets to be like thatpure source right, like it's
just like we are it, we're heldin it.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's the pure truth , right yeah absolutely yeah,
and it's gonna take some stepsto get there right.
So we're we're like and it'sgonna be awkward, much like you
guys felt before the show.
It's like it's gonna be messypossibly at times, you know, but
we're embracing who we arewithin that.

(18:09):
So it really is all beautifuland even like the characters
that you've played thus far isbeautiful, like how you got to
this point.
That's also important to toacknowledge and appreciate and
love all at the same time too,whatever mistakes you made, that

(18:29):
you know that the, the rolesyou've played in your life, the
identities you've held, thoseare all important for what
you're doing now.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Right well, and part of that old matrix that's going
away now is that there's alwaysbeen this belief that earth is
created for duality, so we canhave the experience of right and
wrong, left and right, high andlow, and having that duality,

(19:00):
but that no longer.
As we vibrate higher, as wematch the earth's new vibration
that you can track on this humanresonance as the earth vibrates
up, we are also vibratinghigher and the belief that we
have to have bad with good isgoing away.

(19:21):
We can just have good.
We don't have to experiencenegative or what we perceive as
negative anymore.
We can just have good.
We can just have joy, we canjust have happiness, we can just
have peace.
Yeah, it's a weird.
It's a weird.
It's actually a weird conceptwhen you think about it.
Allison and I were talking theother day and you know she's

(19:43):
like how you doing.
I said life is just good, I.
It's weird to just be it's.
It's an awkward, like you weresaying, allison, it's just
awkward that we don't have toexperience the duality and so to
be able to just say I'm happy,I have joy, I am enjoying life,

(20:03):
everything is good, is weird.
It is Because we're so used toduality, so it's a new thought
process we get to engage in,which is very cool.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, we're conditioned to say, oh, I think
we talked about drama too,because drama, in a way, for us
has been a form of entertainment.
Right, it's an entertainmentwhen you see it in TV shows,
movies, and we also bring thatinto entertainment in our lives.
So if you're talking to someone, you're kind of expecting them

(20:42):
to share some kind of drama withyou about their life, right,
and when they don't, it'sstrange, because it's like
everybody does that right, orhas been doing that.
But if there is no drama inyour life because you have felt
all the things that you need tofeel like the shadow is not

(21:03):
necessarily bad.
It's actually important to movethrough and to feel in its
fullest the shadow of your lifeso that you can move into what
Judy's saying and feel good allthe time because you aren't
suppressing anything.

(21:24):
So the suppression, I believe,of our shadow is what really
creates the anxiety, it createsthe drama.
It's happening on asubconscious level but we don't
realize that that's what'sactually creating our life.
Like that is all this emotion,all these emotions under the
current, that we're not payingattention to, that we're

(21:45):
suppressing, are actually whatis creating our outside world.
And so, but when you let that,when you actually face your
shadows and you do the work onyourself, and then you become
aware of that and you transmuteit.
It transmutes into joy, likeJudy's saying, and then you tell

(22:05):
people oh, everything's great.
And I'm like oh, okay, and sothere's not much to talk about
after that, right yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Shorten the conversation for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, for sure, yeah.
So I think I said something awhile back about when you work
on yourself.
You realize how much you don'tneed that chaos in your life
anymore.
You know you don't gravitatetoward it.
It's not an addiction anymore,because it's just not necessary.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Right, that's getting rid of the matrix energy right,
because the matrix is like youhave to have drama and you can't
tell people that life is good.
You have to let them think thatyou're suffering because
everybody suffers, and thenyou're gonna be above them if
you're just having joy and sopeople are like, oh, I can't say

(23:10):
that I'm just really happyhaving a good time, because I'll
be judged and it's like, yeah,we have to get rid of that old
programming.
We can just have joy and thenwe can be happy for each other
when we just have joy and it'snot like we're not gonna have
sadness or we're gonna havethings that happen in our lives.
But instead of looking at it asa negative, we can look at it

(23:32):
as an experience and not holdonto it in that negative way
that shuts down ourselves.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, alyssa, do you have anything to say about that?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I'm just kind of taking it all in, figured as
much, yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, it is really beautiful and yeah, like Judy's
saying, it's just an experienceand when you don't identify with
it, you really can enjoy yourlife so much more.
It's so interesting, but not tosay, I mean, I feel like
there's layers of old stuff thatcomes up for me and I think the

(24:14):
beauty and the art of it is tothen, instead of push it away,
be like, oh, that's not meanymore, no, no, no, I don't
wanna feel that way.
Let it come through, feel itand then just let it go, because
that's not who you are really,and so that's how we, for those

(24:37):
who are listening or are like,what are they talking about?
This is the process you'reacknowledging, for example.
We'll use an example.
Like for me, I was really goingthrough a lot of the feeling of
rejection this past fall,summer, fall, and also just
feeling like those old feelingsof not being good enough.
And am I gonna say stuff thatpeople are really, that's really

(25:00):
interesting enough and all ofthose things and all of those
things are things that aren'treally true, but they're stories
that we've created through ourpersonal experience in life, and
even I was even watching.
My son sent me this video theother day about Brain Rot and I
was like what is that?

(25:21):
And he said he's learning aboutthis himself.
Basically, there's this thinghappening with social media that
has to do with rejection andbasically when you he's a
psychologist, he was a monk,he's also a gamer it was like he
had all these interesting lifeexperiences, this guy and he was

(25:44):
sharing that.
What he's noticed with hispatients is when they scroll
through social media, you getthese tidbits of information and
it kind of it creates an ADHDresponse with people and it
actually diminishes the functionof the brain when they're
taking in these little tidbitsof information and it's very

(26:07):
scattered for people.
So if you're scrolling a lot,this is happening more and more
and then what happens as aresult is you don't have much
motivation, you lack motivation,you have more rejection
feelings, rejected feelings inyour life.
If you get rejected, you're notgonna try again, you're just
gonna give up.
I thought it was so interestingbecause it really does.

(26:28):
It really is a mirror of whatwe're doing to ourselves with
inundating ourselves with somuch information.
It's a wonderful time to learn.
There's so much greatinformation out there, but and
at the same time we are cloudingour own judgment, our own

(26:48):
perspective, our own feelings,with things that we're hearing
other people share in theoutside world, and so your brain
is almost like not able to keepup with that, you know.
So it really begins to diminishyourself.
You diminish also youremotional body, you know.

(27:09):
So I just thought that was sointeresting.
But going back to what Ioriginally was talking about,
like when you feel this wavemaybe it was an old feeling or
something, something that youfelt when you were younger, like
rejection you have a reallyhard time with it.
Like I just said, one day I'mjust gonna feel this in its

(27:30):
entirety.
I'm not gonna be afraid to feelit, I'm not gonna push it away,
and then it just, really justdissipated quite quickly.
And it's not to say I don'tfeel rejection ever again.
After that I might.
I do still feel that, but atthe same time now I feel a
little bit more, or a lot morebalanced as it relates to that.

(27:52):
I don't take it as personallyand I also put myself in that
person's place, you know.
So if we can just take our timewith these things and allow
ourselves to feel, first of alljust acknowledge that it exists
and then feel it, and then wecan get to the other side of

(28:16):
that right.
So that's the process, in a way, of allowing yourself to step
into feeling that shadow part ofyou, which isn't always bad.
I mean, it's things we learnedin this false matrix like we
were talking about.
These aren't organic things.
These aren't natural things.
It's not natural to feel likeyou're not enough.

(28:38):
It's not natural to feel likeyou're not abundant.
You scare season, even a thingin what's natural and what's
real.
If you just look outside innature, you'll see there's all
kinds of abundance out there.
That happens without anybodydoing anything.
So we work the same way.
We've just been trained that wedon't.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
So the things like those emotional blocks, really
that's where I think we have tostart, you know?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, and I think the biggest thing with that for a
lot of us is not the thingitself, but that fear that's
right there, that butts upagainst it.
You're like, oh, I'm so afraidto look, I'm so afraid to look,
I'm so afraid to ask, I'm soafraid to do whatever, and then

(29:38):
you just go forget it.
I just I'm not gonna do thefear, I'm just gonna let.
I just have to break throughthe fear.
And then you realize that thisthing over here wasn't really as
awful as you thought, but theanticipation of it was the worst
part, exactly.
And so right, and so we just letgo of that.

(29:58):
Just let go of that and trustand believe and have faith and
know that the fear is anillusion.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
That is the real illusion.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, and that's the thing is really not a thing,
right yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
All right.
Well, I think we said enoughabout the Phosphor matrix.
We haven't.
I want to get into.
I want to get into channelingbecause this has been a big
topic and I've heard some peoplein my circle, in the wellness
holistic wellness circle, talkabout this.
The other day Alyssa youprobably know Alex and Sarah

(30:40):
they were talking about how likefive of their clients just
started getting into thischanneling thing and then all of
a sudden their personalitieschanged and I said, wow, I've
seen that before, you know, andI was telling Judy that I was
working with this woman over thesummer and and it was great
work, I mean, I really enjoyedthe sessions I did with her and

(31:06):
I didn't know where she startschanneling this entity and I'm
like, where'd that come from?
And then I just had to.
You know what I picked up on.
That is like are you why?
You know?
Why are you stepping aside?
Why?
This is what Judy and I talkedabout.
Why are you abandoning yourselfto let some other entity in to

(31:30):
speak for you?
What is that about?
Right, yeah, and do you evenknow what?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
level you're connecting to, Because if you're
not opening with like greatcaution, anything can come in
right.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, Right, and you know to some extent, like the
shadow of you could be, youcould be channeling that too
right In a way.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, because if you're channeling your highest
self most of the time, which isthat God essence, that if you're
not checking in whether it'sclear.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Well, and that's the thing, right, we, we are
everything right.
Right, we are everything,including God.
We do have that God source inus, but we have all the shadow
as well.
And so when people want to gochannel and they think they're
channeling somebody else, thereality is they're just

(32:24):
channeling themselves and bythinking that they're channeling
someone else, they're playingthe victim.
Right, and I'm not.
I'm not good enough, I don'tknow enough, so I'm going to
have somebody else out here tellme, because, again, they're
still in that matrix, they'restill in that belief that we

(32:44):
don't have all the answersinside.
And so they go oh, I'm justgoing to go channel whoever good
, bad, I don't know somebody,archangels, all you know.
All these wonderful sources,all of these wonderful sources
are just aspects of us, it'sjust us.
And now it's time for us to sayI'm just channeling me, I'm

(33:07):
just really getting this purechannel.
That is the purest self, mypurest self, my pure, the purest
self that I can be, and that'sall channeling is.
And so when people say I'mchanneling somebody else, first
thing I hear is I'm stillplaying the victim mode, I'm

(33:28):
still playing victim.
Yeah, now it's a hot button forme.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I'm like that is a big one.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, Because we.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
I mean, I know you guys probably did the same thing
.
I remember in that, when thespiritual New Age movement
started, you had Abraham Hicks,you had I don't know who else,
all these Barbara Marciniak andall these people channeling
entities, and then they would,their voice would change, their

(33:57):
mannerism would change.
You know, it was really, it wasreally weird.
Great information, right, butsometimes, but I didn't under
write right sometimes, but Ididn't understand it then, like
I do now.
And because, like what do you?
Yeah, like you're, yes, yourego has to step out to channel

(34:21):
your pure self, but at the sametime, if you're like completely
like Judy, saying, giving yourpower away to something else
because you don't feel likeyou're good enough, what's that
all about?
Right, so just the fact thatpeople are, you know, I love

(34:43):
that people are getting intospirituality, but this seems
weird to me.
What do you think, alyssa?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think like a prerequisite is
definitely doing your ownpersonal work, like deep, deep
personal work and that, yes,that understanding we are the
all we are, the nothing liketruly, truly being able to
embody that, not to stop thethought of it, because I think,

(35:12):
like what we've talked aboutthis, when you open up too fast,
sometimes it gets a littledangerous.
Like I think people need to.
This sounds harsh, but I dothink people need to earn it.
Like you know, looking fitnesswe were talking about like you
don't get under the barbell ifit's like 300 pounds, if you've
never lifted that before.
Like you earn your way up tobeing able to hold that amount

(35:36):
of power or whatever you want tocall it.
And it's not that I don't thinkwe're all connected to spirit I
do.
I just think we all have a lotof these like well, delusions
and beliefs and the personalstories and the personal pain
that we get to kind of alchemyfirst.
So I think I think there is likea prerequisite of doing a lot

(35:57):
of inner work first, and I dobelieve, like like I'll
apologize, we'll talk about that, I, we all, before we're trying
to heal the all, like let's dous first, you know, and I think
like, once you get to a certainpoint where you feel that
confidence, there will be acalling to like step out a

(36:18):
little bit further.
But I don't think you can do itbackwards, I don't think you
can be like this is cool, I'mgoing to do this right, like yes
, you can call to it.
But I do think there is a waywhere, like, we create a nice
solid foundation that is stableand grounded.
Before we try to do that forothers, we do it for us all
first, you know.

(36:39):
So we're fully, 100% present inwhat we're bringing and we know
, kind of our wise behind it too.
I think that integrity plays abig piece.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, yeah, there's it, and I also wanted to bring
this topic up, the spiritual.
Now the word just escaped me.
Oh no, there's been somehijacking of spiritual people.

(37:11):
Spirituality, you know, likethere's.
I've seen, you know it may lookgood, false prophets.
Yeah, yeah, totally yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, I've been seeing that a lot online.
Like I know, like there's a lotof main ones.
You know, you kind of getfamiliar with some of these
people that they have a lot ofhyperlipid and you're like, oh
yeah, but it's amazing because Iwill even see it in, like
people I know in these realmsand like they're emoting all the

(37:48):
right emotions, they're usingall the right words, they've got
everything looking like soperfect and you're like, but I
can't feel your soul, like I seeyou doing those emotions, but
it's empty and so it's realweird Cause I'm like I'm not
being like is there something inme that like, why don't I feel
this, you know?

(38:09):
But I think that's that's thatintuition and I don't know.
I don't necessarily need tojudge, but I can be like there's
something not complete in thatcog right there.
So I don't think I'm going toparticipate and so, again, you
just got to like choose for you.
But I think there's a lot ofthis out there now and a lot of

(38:32):
people in it for the wrongreasons, you know, which is kind
of sad.
And then I think there's thepeople that are intention
putting on the show to be thelight when they're the opposite.
But you know, I don't know if Ithink that's the most in the
case.
I think sometimes that'll bethere.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I agree.
I think you have to learn howto be discerning of the energy,
like you're saying yeah, you,yeah.
That's why the feeling isreally important.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, I'm super mindful, like even in my own
self work, like who I will trainwith or who I'll open myself up
to, Like I won't just go tolike anyone's women's circle or
like sandbads.
I'm like I'm feeling real goodhere and if it's like a slight
hesitation, it's like no, that'snot where my energy goes and

(39:22):
it's just really is like knowingthe sacredness of our being and
really trusting ourselves whenit comes to feeling.
And it's not out of fear, it'sout of like love, right, like
this doesn't really fit, so it'sa no.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
See, that's where I think that's just the message
that I've just been getting fora while now is discernment, and
you get discernment by trustingyourself, and when you trust
yourself, you realize that youare the answers.
You don't have to go to anybodyelse.

(40:00):
It's great to get informationfrom other people, but then you
filter it through your ownknowingness and trusting your
knowingness, you know the secondthat you say well, this person
said this, so I believe it.
It's like this person said itand I really like the concept.
And let me filter it through meto see how that really works

(40:25):
for me.
And I think that's where a lotof people are going now is that
they're realizing that they havemore knowingness and they have
to have more discernment andknowingness now in society,
because you don't you do havethese people that say they're
spiritual and maybe they'redoing it from a good place in
themselves, that they are tryingto help, but it's also a

(40:47):
wounded place and a place wherethey haven't healed, and so the
information that they're sharingthey're doing it with a good
heart, but there's a little bitof distortion in there.
So you've got to take thisperson with this good heart or
this good soul and make sure wefilter it, and I think that just
feels like the message thatI've been getting so much over

(41:09):
the last several months that somany people now are starting to
finally understand don't believeanybody.
Don't believe anybody, anddon't believe anybody what
anybody says, because it couldor could not be true, or it
could be true for them, but it'snot true for you.
And so, the more that we takethat in ourselves and take

(41:34):
responsibility for ourselves andquit looking back to that poll,
quit looking for answers fromthe outside.
We are powerful, we do have theanswers.
We don't need anybody else totell us what to do or not to do
or how to fix anything.
Great, get information fromanybody that you want to, but

(41:57):
filter it.
Filter it through your heart toknow what's right for you.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Literally.
I love that.
It's so interesting because Iwill have clients that are like
have you read?
this book, or have you listenedto this podcast, or have you
tried this meditation?
And it's like, no, I sit withme in ceremony and see what goes
, like you know, like spiritwill show me what I need to know
when I need to know it, andalso bring those beautiful, like
you say, like support systemsand other united individuals

(42:29):
into your world to help you justkind of like play with that
energy and move through your ownstuff as it comes.
I love that because, yeah, Ifind like I have books
everywhere and I'm like I don'teven want to open them anymore
because we've been trained inthat old world.
Like I know, if I read a book,I'm taking that on, like I just

(42:52):
will, and then it'll take me alittle bit.
So like unravel it or even apodcast, I'll like listen to it
and I'm like now I gotta movesome of that.
And like it becomes more work,more work for me to get clean
right.
So it's like you get some goodinformation but you also get a
lot of just other people's stuffand, like you say, it could be
beautiful for someone else butit might not be for me.

(43:14):
And it's so fascinating thatit's like this quiet, simple
life, like you were saying, thathappiness, like, and the not
scrolling, once we come intothis quietness, once we come
into the alignment with nature,once we come into our peace,
like everything is right there.
It is so simple.
There's just sometimes it'sun-simple to get there, but it

(43:37):
is also like, so simple at thesame time, right, like it is all
just there in the quiet.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, we have to take it with a grain
of salt, so to speak.
Right, is it everybody'sinformation Cause we are getting
?
When I go on social media, Ijust feel like I'm bombarded
with advice, recommendations,like, ah, you know, like, so,

(44:07):
feel the energy, start to, like,learn how to feel the energy.
Like Alyssa, you're saying it,you know we.
This kind of moves us into ournext topic, which is how you
know the energies of the newyear, and I believe we're gonna
continue this process of gettingaway from over

(44:29):
intellectualizing things and tryto understand them through our
brain and more into feeling themand tapping into our own inner
knowing.
Because, like Alyssa, you workedwith, you've worked with the
Akashic records before, and Ithink, basically, that is that

(44:49):
all the information we couldever know that's recorded in
history is in that place, and Idon't even know it might have
changed by now, it might not becalled the Akashic records, but
there is some.
You know, everything that we doit gets recorded in the earth,
it gets recorded in our bodies.
So much information's out therealready.

(45:11):
Like taking in more, likeyou're saying, is really
flooding us with confusion, andso it's really starting with
building that discernment andthe practice of being you, being
with yourself, being in yourown energy, because when you can
learn how to do that, then youcan start to be more discerning

(45:33):
of other people's energy.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
And I wouldn't even say learn, because it's innate,
that's true.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
yeah, good point.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
It's trust.
We're always like, oh, I don'tthink that was right, cause you
know, and it's like no, it'slike trust when you get that
message inside, that it is true.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, yeah, I think at this point and there's
nothing wrong with this I don'thave any problem with people
selling their services or theirproducts, but it's like all a
big ad now to me in a way.
You know, just know that's whatyou're stepping into and that's
okay, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
It is so weird, it's such a big thing to navigate,
like whether you're just likesharing from your heart or like,
yeah, I just want that energyas it feels so strange.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Let's talk about the well,let's talk about we've already
just talked really aboutstepping into our power.
What about the energies of thenew year?
What are you picking up on,alyssa?
Why don't you start this one?
What are you feeling?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I do feel like.
I feel like we've been in like alittle bit, not quite an energy
low, but it's like that quiettime where it does give us
permission to sit back and lookand feel and notice and create
kind of like some aligningchoice, like there's that pause
to just realign.
I feel like we're kind of inthat now, even though it's a
crazy time of the year, spiritsreally told me like, sit back,

(47:08):
feel like.
But I think that's nature too,like nature is quiet, it's time
of year, we're meant tohibernate, we're meant to go
within, we're meant to feel thefeels right, so we know what
we're doing come summertime andwe're putting our energy and
stuff.
So, anyways, I do feel likethere's been this little lull,
at least for me to really beable to get in and feel like

(47:29):
what I'm going to do and kind ofbuild up that energy.
That's going to like be arocket launch for the new year.
I feel like the new year isjust bringing in a lot of
beautiful like love and lightpower, and I think we're going
to see a lot of like just change, like exactly what you were
saying, like that shift intohappiness.

(47:50):
It's like a lot of that illusionis going to get to fall and I
think a lot of the truth isgoing to come forward and seeing
it happen, but I feel likethere's going to be, like I
don't know, a big big, like abig surge of leaders coming in
that are actually like healthyleaders and I don't mean in the
government, but I mean like likein, in personal empowerment

(48:12):
work, even because I do believeagain that it starts within and
that sense like a beautiful wayof out, right, like one person
steps into their power andthey're knowing this, and it
inspires others and wecommunicate changes and I do
feel like there's going to bethis big ripple that starts to
happen into just bringing truths.

(48:32):
And so I feel like like we'rejust before kind of this
explosion and I don't fully knowagain like how it happens, but
it does happen through each ofus and we do keep players like
at the top that are able to holda lot of space and inspire
people, not through, likeInstagram and all this other
stuff, but like real life energy.

(48:53):
So, yeah, that's kind of whatI'm getting, that like it's go
time spirits, like no moreplaying small number, being
hesitant to talk about the weirdstuff, like it's time get out
there and shine.
Because again, as in thisculture, we're kind of like
weird shit to talk about outthere, right, like we kind of
feel like the outsiders, butit's kind of like no more.

(49:16):
No more do you get to playsmall.
You are exactly where you'resupposed to be in the exact time
.
The lessons you've learned inyour life will also help you
teach those because you knowthem so deeply, the ones you're
still working through.
You're working through at theright time because you're also
gonna, you know, like, leadthose others to those places or
assist those others.
Obviously they're doing thework themselves, but assist

(49:36):
those others, and it just feelslike there's so much alignment
that everything is like liningup.
Yeah, it feels exciting and itdoes feel like like this rocket
ship, kind of like rumbling, youknow, and it's like it's
getting all the fire like asmodern before it's going to

(49:57):
blast off, and it's kind of likeoh, that's what I feel.
So I have this real like hypedup energy and I don't really
know like, like I say, how itall fits together, but I feel it
and obviously, like it's goingto be shown what our steps are.
We'll know as soon as it's time.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
So yeah, thank you, alyssa.
That's beautiful, judy.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
It's kind of I'm feeling this a lot of what
you're saying, alyssa.
I'm just getting that, you know, on a personal level, you know
when your God source, orwhatever you want to call it,
comes along and says, hey, youshould really do this right now.
And you go, no, I'm not goingto listen.
And then hey, you really needto do this.

(50:45):
And you go, no, they're justkidding, I don't need to do this
.
And then they really kind ofgive you a big smack and say, no
, there's no more messing around.
We've been trying to tell youyou need to don't do that, but
do this.
I feel like that's gone from anindividual level to that's what

(51:08):
2024 is, that the universe isyelling really loud and they're
not going to let you ignore themanymore.
And so yeah.
So it's good, it's exciting,it's yeah, I mean, some people
are going to listen to thewhisper and some people are

(51:29):
going to wait until they getknocked hard before they make
the change.
So it's going to be obviouslyfree will.
But I think we're at the stagewhere the ultimate source, the
ultimate self, is like no more,no more playing small, no more

(51:51):
pretending, no more beingsettling for whatever, but now
we get to jump into what wereally deserve as humans and as
beautiful souls.
So I really see that happeningin 24.
So, yeah, it's kind of exciting, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Thank you.
Yeah, I will add on to that aswell.
What you guys just said is nomore hinting around about what's
happening.
We're just going to bestraightforward and just be like
this is what's happening, right, but on, there's so.
But the thing about what I'venoticed too, especially over the

(52:30):
last year, it's so individual.
Everybody's got their ownindividual way of connecting
with this energy that's comingin.
And so these, the energy we'retalking about, these higher
frequencies that literally comein Through the universe.

(52:51):
Like you know, it is how weraise our vibration, our
consciousness, and you reallydon't have to do anything.
It kind of just comes in and itpushes out all the density.
But your job is to allow thatdensity to move through, you
know.
And so I think that's wheresome people are going to.
They're going to resist thatright and that's going to make

(53:13):
it harder, that's going tocreate more suffering for some
people.
But the people that are doingthe work, that know how this
works, are going to, you knowand can feel it, and ready to
let go, ready to do this, likeyou guys are talking about.
It's going to be amazing, youknow, and we're all going to be
doing what we need to be doing.

(53:34):
You know I heard somebody saysomething about that we will no
longer be the minority, you know, and how we think, and you know
it'll be the people, kind oflike the people who were
creating drama and this is not ajudgment about anybody.

(53:55):
Everybody has to play a role.
We all had to, you know,through this whole entire
experience.
But the people who are playingthe victim, you know, the savior
, the perpetrator, that's goingto be the smaller amount of
population, and I think whatwe're moving into is a larger
amount of population is going tobe in this, this mindset of

(54:20):
wanting to raise theirconsciousness.
They're ready to go.
They're not, they don't want toplay small anymore.
They're tired of feeling, youknow.
You know start, start ofcreating resistance, feeling
like they need to fit in, likethey're not enough.
You know those things are.
They're just tired of it.

(54:41):
They're ready to be themselves,to show up as their authentic
selves.
So I think we're going to getmore of that in 2024, for sure.
2023 was, I think, a little bitof a lull period, so we could
work on some of these otherthings.
Right, that we can, so we canstep into this year, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I feel like 2023, like let us feel our choices.
It's like you want to feel that, like you, gotta feel that, see
how you like it.
And then the year is like so,how does that serve you?
And you're like no, I'm goingto step into my power and I'm
going to know where I'm goingthis year and like it's a

(55:23):
different game, right, and likewe just we come around to those
same lessons over and oversometimes and just start to see
more clear and more clear and so, yeah, yeah, yeah, so fun.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Yeah, yeah.
So that I mean just you knowthat I would say I'm going to
leave everybody with this andI'm going to let you guys do the
same thing with some closingstatements here.
But I would just say you knowwhen, when taking in information
, like we talked about in theshow, feel if it resonates for
you, like we talked about youknow in, take what you what

(55:59):
resonates, and leave behindeverything else.
You know, and a lot of timeswhen I go into these situations,
I'll say you know, yeah, Iheard this from somebody, but
the only reason I bring it up isbecause I felt it before I
heard it, so it was already truefor me.
And then hearing it someoneelse say it was affirming oh,

(56:20):
okay, yeah, I mean not that Ididn't affirm it before, but it
was just like, oh, it's an extra, like oh, okay, yeah, it
reminded me.
Yeah, that's what I felt.
So this is how we're moving in.
It's like you're going to knowyour truth and say someone
telling you your truth, right,yes, yeah, do you guys have any
anything else to close up withtoday?

(56:42):
This has been an incredibleconversation.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
It's been so fun.
I love our weekly conversationsand I just get so much out of
them.
I just love it and I hope thatyour audience enjoyed jumping in
on our weekly conversation.
This is what we do every week.
We have these great thoughtsand ideas and get to bounce

(57:08):
ideas off each other and stuff.
So I just appreciate both ofyou ladies so much and I want to
thank you for letting me joinin today.
Hopefully some people got somethoughts to think about now.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Thank you, Judy.
Thank you for being here.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Yeah, thank you so much.
I love you guys.
I love you guys so much.
I'm so grateful.
I love you too and just shareconversationally and see where
things go.
I always learn so much from youguys.
Same here, same here.
So I was like, oh yes, like yousay the op-lams, thank you,
we'll definitely have to do thisagain.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Yeah, we'll definitely make this more of a
regular thing.
I think so, yeah, but thank youguys for, you know, having the
courage to come on and talkabout this stuff and put
yourself out there, that's a bigdeal.
So thank you, love you guys.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Thanks a lot, Alton.
Get to you.
You're welcome.
Alisa, love you guys.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Love you too.
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