Rhiannon Heins is an intuitive channel, author, energy worker, and the founder of Intuitive Reberth Energy-Work Method. She dedicates her life to her soul work, and underpinning her vision at every stage of her journey has been a desire to initiate as many gifted light-workers as possible into their roles on Earth at this time.
Rhiannon has spent the past ten years working and lecturing as a remedial massage therapist, teaching yoga, meditation & breathwork, and facilitating yoga teacher training internationally. Now, using her signature Intuitive Rebirth energy-work method, Rhiannon is empowering healers to step into their power as high-earning, transformational energy-workers.
In October 2022, she launched her bestselling book, ‘The Keepers Of The Light Codes,’ a channeled text to initiate light-workers into their soul-led mission here on planet Earth.
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In today's episode we talk about:
-The soul's mission: Understanding our purpose and how the soul guides us.
-Healing and empowering yourself: How to use soul-based techniques for personal growth and empowerment.
-Overcoming obstacles: Identifying and working through challenges on the soul's journey.
-Intuitive rebirth: Embracing transformation and growth through intuitive awakening.
-What is intuition? What are the practical tips to awaken intuition and learn to trust it?
-The magnificence and healing qualities of voice activation
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Your life is your greatest work of art, and it all
relates back to thesynchronicities.
Welcome to Integrate Yourself,everybody.
I'm your host, alison Pillow,and you can find me at
allasimplowcom and, finally,thrivingprogramcom.
(00:39):
Today we're here with a veryspecial guest, rianna Heinz.
I hope I said that right.
Is it Heinz or Heinz?
Heinz, I'm so sorry.
No, you've got it.
Alison, did I get it Okay,that's the funny thing about
names Like somebody will tell mehow to pronounce it and then
(01:01):
I'll talk.
You know, my mind will gosomewhere else and I'll go back
to it and I'm like, oh no, whatwas it?
How do you say that again?
So thank you for being kindabout that.
She's an intuitive channelauthor, energy healer and the
founder of intuitive rebirthenergy work method.
She dedicates her life to hersoul work and underpinning her
(01:24):
vision at every stage of herjourney has been a desire to
initiate as many gifted lightworkers as possible into their
roles on earth at this time.
Rianna has spent the past 10years working and lecturing as a
remedial mess, massagetherapist, teaching yoga,
meditation and breath work, andfor facilitating yoga training,
(01:47):
teacher training internationally.
Now, using her signatureintuitive rebirth energy work
method, rianna is powerempowering healers to step into
their power as high earning,transformational energy workers.
In October 2022, she launchedher bestselling book the Keepers
(02:07):
of the Light Codes, a channeledtext to initiate light workers
into their soul led mission hereon planet earth.
Rianna, thank you so much forbeing here.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hey, alison, thank you so much for having me.
It's awesome to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, it is something we have been cooking up for
some time now.
We had to reschedule a coupleof times, so finally we made it
happen, and congratulations onall your books.
By the way, I also published abook in 2022.
So I know how that goes and howthat can be such a major
process, and you're now workingon your third book, so that's
(02:47):
just really incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, thank you, Congratulations on your book as
well.
Yeah, it's the writing.
The book is the easy bit.
I have now learned.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, it's the integration of, like the
information that comes up.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, yeah.
I experienced that as well,exactly so, yeah, yeah, and now,
so yeah.
I launched the Keepers of theLight Codes last year and now,
probably within the next coupleof months, the next book, which
is the Intuitive Rebirth, isgoing to be getting published,
and really sorry, that's superexciting.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh, that's incredible , Congratulations.
Yeah, it's like you're birthinga new life form.
When you birth a book, right,it's just, it's an incredible
process and then, yes, it doeshave its own energy when it
comes into the world.
So it's a really fascinatingkind of thing.
Yeah, process for sure.
Well, yeah.
(03:51):
So I wanted to just start withlike I would love for you to
share.
You can start by sharing alittle more about what you want
to with the audience, about whoyou are, as well as what you've
been working on.
But one of the things that Iwould love to start with is the
soul's mission, understandingyour purpose and how the soul
guides us, because this has beena major.
(04:14):
I mean, I've run, run into thislately as, like we've had in it,
we're going to speak a littlebit more in the light worker
language in this episode and I'mgoing to say, like this is,
when we shift timelines, whichwe've been doing a lot of lately
, it's like part of our, the wayI've experienced as part of
(04:35):
myself is in that last timelineand have to retrieve it and
bring all my focus back intothis timeline so that I'm all
here and with that, sometimes Ifeel like we kind of lose our
soul's purpose because we werekind of stuck back in another
purpose and now we're here andchanging the purpose again.
(04:56):
So that's how I've been seeingit lately, because I've been
doing a lot of deep divingmyself to recalibrate that for
myself and then it.
You know some of it, some of it.
I think my purpose is stillaligned with who I am and what
I'm doing, but it's just alittle bit different each time.
(05:17):
You know we do those timelinejumps.
So I would love for you to getinto that topic as well.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, right for sure.
So I'll start with my take onthe soul mission, because this
is actually such a huge part ofwhat I teach and such a huge
part of the message in the booksand in the energy work modality
that I teach intuitive reaperand I feel that there is so much
(05:47):
struggle embedded in, likelooking for your purpose.
There is so much struggle there, like when people realize that
they don't enjoy their job andit's like but what am I here to
do?
And in that there can be somuch deflation and feeling like
you're not good enough or thatyou're out of alignment.
(06:07):
And I feel like so much of thishuman journey is actually
looking for that soul mission,that soul purpose, so that we
can ultimately just feelfulfilled and like our life has
true meaning.
So in that there's actually alot of suffering.
(06:28):
There is a lot of sufferingbecause it's like this quest to
be more, to be recognized, tohave a bigger impact, to show up
more authentically.
It's this quest that takespeople away from self and self.
When I say self, I mean theonly self that can ever exist,
(06:48):
which is the you right now.
The you right now has a soulmission and it's to be so
connected to the essence oftruth, of who you are, that
everywhere you go you emanatetruth as a vibration, and in
that you are activating humanity, you are changing the world.
(07:12):
And if in each moment you canshow up in more truth and more
authenticity and more love, then, moment by moment, day by day,
that is going to start to take aunique form, a unique
expression.
That might look like some actof service starting a podcast,
(07:32):
becoming a healer, a healthcoach, whatever it is but when
it comes to the soul mission, wehave to take it off the
pedestal because we have toomuch expectation of this
grandeur of how it should look.
And you can't go from being ina job that is unsatisfying,
(07:55):
unfulfilling, where you'rebasically completely
disconnected from the essence ofmagic that you are.
You can't go from that to thisgrand, fully expressed version
of your soul mission, like whereyou're doing it.
It's huge, it's epic.
You can't go from one to theother overnight.
(08:15):
And if you try and find thatfully expressed soul mission
from that place of likestuckness, like a job that feels
unfulfilling, if you're tryingto find that it's not going to
happen and you're actually justgoing to feel disheartened,
you're going to keep wonderinglike what is it?
What is it?
So to me, the soul mission isto embody truth and love.
(08:39):
To embody truth and love andeach day to ask yourself how
does love express through metoday, how does truth express
through me today?
So one day you might wake upand you might say truth and love
expresses through me today bywriting, and you do that.
(09:00):
But if you're looking like, ismy soul mission to be a New York
Times bestselling author,you're going to feel unfulfilled
until you meet that expectationthat you've created with your
mind and ultimately there'sdistortion there.
So the soul mission is to showup in each moment in truth and
love and to have no expectationof how that should ultimately
(09:26):
look, but to surrender to thefull expression of what spirit
is trying to flow through you,what spirit is trying to berth
through you, and that is alwaysgoing to be incredibly
magnificent.
But if you, just today, giveyourself to love, give yourself
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to truth, then you're on track,you're doing it, you're in
absolute, complete and totalalignment with your soul mission
.
And the beautiful thing aboutthat is that the soul mission,
the sole purpose for everysingle person, is so unique that
it cannot be taught by another.
(10:13):
You know so.
So, for example, my soulmission, as it expresses through
me right now, is to teachintuitive rebath, which is like
a deeply somatic transformativeenergy work method.
But anyone that comes into myfield, it is highly unlikely
(10:34):
that their absolute, authenticsoul mission is to do exactly
what I do.
So they can come into into thisfield to receive the codes of
activation that awaken withinthem truth and love, and then
from that they move into adeeper state of alignment of
(10:56):
their own expression, of theirsoul mission.
So then, how that relates tojumping timelines, as you, as
you, asked, is it's like themore connected to the absolute
frequency of truth and love, themore magic we can create.
(11:18):
You know.
So when you're at the start ofyour journey and you're living
in a false paradigm where yourrelationship relationships
aren't really built on love,where your work isn't built on
love, where your home doesn'tfeel like love, and you're kind
of limited by these veils ofdistortion, and you start to
(11:42):
breathe into your body and youstart to heal, and you start to
look at all that you're holdingwithin you that is distorted or
untrue and you start to breakinto a new vibration, you start
to access a new vibration andthen from that higher frequency
you step into a higher timelineof what you can experience, of
(12:04):
what you can emanate, of whatyou can action in your soul
mission.
Our timelines are always up,leveling, up, leveling in
alignment with our own abilityto be in a higher, higher
frequency, a higher vibration.
So truth and love to me 10years ago looked like not
(12:28):
partying so hard, right, notpartying so hard, being kind to
myself like in my early 20s,like being kinder to myself,
re-correcting my thoughts thatwere judgmental of myself or of
others, and at that point I wasa lecturer in remedial massage
and that was the reflection ofmy soul mission at that time, at
(12:54):
that level of truth and love,of that vibration.
And then, when I upgraded mybody, I started to heal deeply,
I started to upgrade my thoughts.
Then, boom, I opened a yogastudio and it's sort of like I
left that whole remedial massagetimeline behind and moved into
yoga teaching, you know, andboom, boom, boom.
(13:18):
this kept happening over andover.
So, yeah, that's, that's mytake on the soul mission and
timelines.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That was beautiful.
You said so much there that justreally I felt it resonated with
me so much and what I'vepersonally experienced and also
seen other people experience too, and yeah, I mean, we put so
(13:50):
much pressure on ourself to findpurpose in our life and you
just hit the nail on the head,which is basically just finding
the truth of who you are in thatmoment and, like I say, just
loving yourself asunconditionally as you can in
that moment.
That's all you can really do andso you know, that is the truth
(14:13):
of, like.
I loved how you use thebestselling author example,
because I think we try to strivefor these successes or goals
that we see other people doingoutside of ourselves and we
think that's what we're supposedto be doing, or that's what I,
(14:34):
you know, in order to besuccessful, I must do that, I
must take that path, but, likeyou said, it may be just doing
what you're doing right now andthat could be loving and
satisfying enough for you, Likejust really caring so deeply for
yourself, like you said, takingthose steps of self care and
(14:57):
leading you to that next step inyour life of purpose, right.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, exactly, but the beautiful thing is is also
honoring that we are the mostpowerful creators in all of
existence.
Like we are, we are a source.
You know, we have that light ofthe Creator within and
therefore our ability to createis limitless.
So when you start to heal andcome into yourself and move into
(15:27):
that vibration of love whereyou love yourself and you're on
the path of finding the truth ofwho you are, and then you get
an idea drop in and it's likeyou know what, I think I could
be a bestselling author or Ithink I could.
I think I could have a reallysuccessful podcast.
And then you get that idea dropin right, if you can hold the,
(15:52):
if you can hold that vision,because that vision has been
seeded to you by the Divine, ifyou are in an energy of love and
you receive a vision, that'sthe Divine seeding you with more
direction and more clarity foryour mission.
So, like at one point, you gotthis idea right, I'm going to
start this podcast.
And when you were fully in yourheart with it, it would have
(16:19):
felt limitless.
And like when our energy dropsand we get into fear and we
start to feel like what we'redoing is not enough, then the
energy of what we're creatingcontracts.
But if we can stay in our heartwith something, then we stay in
the frequency of creation andthen we can start to vibrate
(16:43):
messages into the field, like Iam a bestselling author, I am a
successful healer, I am like,and you start to feel that with
no attachment, no attachment,just to play, to play in the
field of creation, then it'sgoing to happen very, very
(17:06):
quickly.
So the soul mission is not aboutlike forcefully having an idea
and pushing and striving andthinking I'm not enough or I'm
not on purpose until I achievethat.
The soul mission is aboutshowing up with love in every
moment, about being open toreceive visions and ideas when
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we're in that energy of love.
It's about having the courageto action those visions.
That's the big piece, thecourage knowing, okay, that
vision was ceded to me by thedivine.
Therefore I'm fully supportedin the creation of this vision
Having the courage to create butthen having enough non
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attachment that when it stopsfeeling like love, you just let
it go and then you wait for thenew vision to cede in.
It's like this beautiful dancebetween creation from a space of
love and trusting the presentmoment enough to kind of not
(18:22):
care, to not care to surrender.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, I love that.
That is beautiful.
Yeah, it's because it's moreabout, like you're saying,
inviting the allowance of it andsurrendering to that, and if
it's speaking to your heart, ifyou're inspired to take the
action, you do it until it's notinspiring anymore.
I suppose is what I heard yousay.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we can be so inclined to
overcomplicate things.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh yeah, I've done that many times.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I like need these complicated meanings.
And it's like the path ofalignment is the path of joy.
So it's like if there's no joythere, it's not it.
Yeah, exactly, it's not to saythat every day is going to be
easy.
It's like, of course, we'regoing to have to move through
(19:22):
our fears, we're going to haveto dig deep to overcome
obstacles and challenges, butultimately, every time that we
do that, we should be expandinginto more and more joy.
Yeah, so that's so simple Ourpath is joy.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, so that's the discernment there for people,
and not pushing it past a placeof non-joy, because some people
I don't know, I know I was agymnast when I was younger and
so I would just keep pushing and, pushing, and pushing and
(20:01):
sticking with something andpushing past the resistance,
physically and mentally andemotionally.
And so this is, althoughgymnastics was a, and I'm, you
know, also, I see the light ofbeing an athlete and how
wonderful that was for me andalso realize how much that
(20:23):
played a part in my developmentand how I now, you know, have
seen the world and how itrelates to creation.
In a way, and I've, it's, for meit's, it's been a path of
willing, you know, willing itthrough.
And then I would say, probablythe last five, maybe five to,
(20:46):
maybe five years or so, I'vebeen learning how to allow, how
to invite that part of myself totake over the divine will
aspect and, like my will isimportant, but it's, it works,
in collaboration with divine.
So that's how I see it and it'sa, and it's something I'm
practicing, because I'll go backinto that space of, you know,
(21:11):
needing to push, you know, or,and I would push so hard that I
would just numb myself to know,like when to stop, you know in
some ways on it when I was doingwhen I was an athlete Because
you're going, you are I mean,that is what we're called to do.
When we're in a sport like thatwe're pushing past the point of
(21:35):
pain, right, so eventually wehave no real indication of when
to stop and when to keep going,you know.
So that's something that I'veworked with and that's bringing
that up for me right now, as yousay, as you speak, that I'm
like, wow, yeah, that'sinteresting because I think
that's been my biggestchallenges, just learning the
(21:58):
discernment with that.
But the more I let go andconnect more with my inner child
and really be, and I don'tattach to the performance aspect
of creativity, then it reallyfeels joyful for me, you know,
and that's when I'm like this isgreat, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, but I guess what you received as well,
alison, it's like such anempowering lesson of resilience,
like resilience on this path isreally important Because that
piece that I spoke about, likeaction, requires so much courage
(22:41):
and requires us to act whenit's uncomfortable, and a lot of
us in this world of infinitecomforts don't know how to act
when it's uncomfortable.
So, like your, your lesson inthis is, like, actually really
different to most of thecollective.
Your lesson is, like you're soused to acting with discomfort,
(23:05):
remembering, learning how toremember like is this actually
true to me right now?
Does this actually serve meright now, you know?
So that's a really differentlesson and I think a lot of men
actually have to embody thatmore.
Like my husband's journey tothis point where he's just super
(23:26):
surrendered and on his path andhe has so much creative energy
but he just he lets things goreally easily.
That's been a hard place forhim to get to Because the fear
of like walking away or givingup or something has always been
huge for him.
He's had to like really learnto surrender and that it's okay
(23:47):
to give up when somethingdoesn't serve.
But actually a lot, of a lot ofthe collective is on the other
end of the spectrum, where wewant this life that is so
comfortable, but we wantmiracles.
And actually the miracles onlyhappen when you meet the
universe in that space ofcourage, walking through like
(24:12):
the fire of fear in thedirection of joy and lasting
pleasure.
And most people actually cannever live the life of their
highest purpose, of their truestand most authentic soul calling
because they're not willing toget uncomfortable.
(24:32):
They're not willing to getuncomfortable, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
That makes a lot of sense, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You have to be uncomfortable to.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
There has to be risks that you have to take in
putting yourself out there right, and, like you said, the
courage has to be there to it'sreally even more.
What I've seen with people mostrecently is just a lot of it's
taking a lot of this is like thebig fear for people to feel you
(25:07):
know, to feel what they're notfeeling and like have the
courage to do that and it's andthat's been really big, you know
, for the people that I'veworked with, for you know the
experience I've also done withmyself, it's that seems to be.
The uncomfortableness lieswithin.
(25:30):
Feeling it right, because we'rebeing comfortable is to be.
I don't know if neutral is aword for this, but maybe the
neutral zone or just not, maybeapathetic or you know just but
(25:50):
yeah.
Yeah, I mean we have to be ableto feel all the emotions, the
ranges of emotions, and and thathas been, that has been, I
think, for me, that's been mypath.
I mean I've there's many layersof that and that's been
liberating in many ways, butalso the people that I've worked
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with personally and the peoplethat have been in my group.
It's like this is the big thingthat really transmutes the
energy to the next level.
Right, I mean, it's thatalchemization of that fear that
we're holding, or that blockthat we're holding in our body.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
And we're suppressing .
Speaker 1 (26:36):
You know that we're not expressing it and that has
been.
For me, the biggest healingmodality is just personal
expression, really, and whatI've been helping people with
and it seems to be what we'reneeding right now to get out of
our comfort zone because we, wearen't really being ourselves.
(26:57):
Like who is that?
You know you have to ask yourquestion who is this?
Who am I?
You know when I'm?
You know, with the soul missiondiscussion, it's like that
question of who am I?
How do I get to know myself?
How do I understand myself?
How do I have compassion formyself?
That exploration has to betaken and that takes a lot of
(27:20):
courage to do right.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
It takes a hell of a lot of courage, but that's where
the magic lies and, like whenwe feel we heal and when we heal
ourselves, we come intoalignment with that, the energy
that we spoke about love andtruth.
And within pain, like pain onany level, pain of the heart
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because you're sad, or there'sgrief, or pain of the body, like
the headache or the migrainethat won't go away.
Whatever pain is there in yourlife, like it's a portal.
It's a portal and it presentsas a contraction, but following
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every contraction there'sexpansion.
And I write there's a chapterin my new book and it speaks
about this it's like we have tohonour the pain and actually
follow the journey of thatcontraction within the body and
within our external reality.
And when we can follow thecontraction with loving
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neutrality, without judgement,we follow it into an expansion.
Like if you think of a woman inlabour, maybe if there's all
the mothers tuning in right now.
It's like when you giveyourself permission to feel the
remarkable pain of a contractionor the intensity of a
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contraction in labour and youfollow it, you are like broken
through then into like asoftening, an expansion, where
you're a different person towhat you were two minutes ago.
Your body is softened, you'reprepared, you're more
surrendered as a mother.
And that's true in everything,like when we try to run away or
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avoid or numb the pain, we can'tfind the expansion that this
contraction is trying to show us.
So, for example, if you haveinjured your back, my go-to is
when I'm busy when I've been sobusy in my life doing and doing
(29:48):
and doing I throw my back outand it's like I lay in bed with
this agony.
And if I try and run away fromthe agony and get back to life,
the pain persists.
But when I follow the pain andI be with the pain and I lay in
my bed and I breathe into thatpain and I ask it what are you
(30:10):
trying to show me?
What are you trying to show me?
And have love for the pain,knowing that this contraction is
going to bring you into ahigher frequency of love?
Ultimately, then it does that,it does that and usually the
back pain is like you need torest, you need to slow down, you
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need to stop.
And when I get that, my backheals and I usually surrender
into love and have all these ahamoments that I wouldn't have
had if I fought the pain, andthis is true in everything, like
if you're in a job that youhate and you're depressed,
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you're sad, like each day islike a heavy cloud weighing down
on you that doesn't seem toshift, like that's pain right.
Breathe into that heavinesslike.
Breathe into that cloud.
What are you trying to show me?
And in that open, inquisitivequestion to the divine, you will
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be shown when you stopresisting the pain and stop
trying to numb the pain.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yes, that's a wonderful way to express it, and
I have been a holistic personaltrainer for many years and I
still work with people on thephysical level as well, and it's
very different than what I usedto do.
But people would be like theywould have some pain, either the
(31:49):
back pain or in another area ofthe body.
What can I do?
What can I do to get rid ofthis pain?
They want me to give themexercises or something.
Sometimes I would, but then ifit persisted, I was just like
just lay down.
Just lay down and do nothing, orwatch a comedy or something
(32:12):
while you're laying down,because it's really just your
body, like you're saying, yourbody just needs that
regeneration, it needs you topay attention to it, because
we're not actually putting thetime, the interest and the
attention into ourselves.
That's what that's telling us,because we're so busy doing
(32:32):
other things outside of our self.
So, if we can just giveourselves that time, that
attention and that love, reallyit's really giving yourself love
, giving your body love.
It wants to know it matters, itwants to know it exists.
Everything wants to beacknowledged.
So that's all we really have todo, and I love that you brought
(32:53):
that up, because it is importantfor people to realize, like we
live in a world that's so busyand everybody's just hustling
and trying to strive, but we're,in a way, I see it as and this
is not a judgment, but I do seepeople not they're distracting
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themselves from themselves, fromthemselves, as I like to say
basically.
So we're not really spendingtime with ourselves like we
would a child.
Like you wouldn't want toignore your child, you don't
want to ignore yourself either.
So, yes, it's very important.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, and you know we spoke at the beginning about
being in that vibration of loveto receive those visions, those
ideas, those insights about thedirection of our life.
And it's like, how are we goingto receive if we are just like
not even stopping for a second?
So often we are like pushedinto a state of surrender so
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that we can receive.
Spirit is always trying tocommunicate with us, guide us,
direct us.
But if we're going a millionmiles an hour, like constantly
thinking, radio on in the car,tv on at home, there is no space
for insight to come in.
So when we're forced into quiet, into stillness, into rest and
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recovery, to be with ourselves,we're forced to create space to
receive, to be directed.
And when you can find themiracle in everything that feels
like pain or like a challenge,when you can find the miracle,
then you're in, you'reessentially in mastery, you've
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found mastery and life becomesthis beautiful dance, this
beautiful journey of contraction, expansion.
And each time you're in thatcontraction it's like, oh my
gosh, I wonder where I'm heading, like something beautiful is
about to happen and it's just aperspective shift.
And with that change ofperspective, a miracle does drop
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in, because we are thatpowerful as creators.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, I believe that too.
I believe it, yeah, and I knowit.
You know because I'veexperienced it, and you know
it's so interesting that many ofus we don't remember that and
it's something that we have tokeep reminding ourselves like
we're creating this.
We're that powerful that we arecreating every moment in our
(35:39):
lives.
You know, it's just incrediblewhen you think about it.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, we are literally creating all of it,
and that can be a hard pill toswallow for some people because
they'll look around and be like,but my, I don't like my house
and I like my job, I didn'tcreate this.
But if you can just get reallyradically real with yourself and
take responsibility andownership for the part that
you've played in the creation ofyour life exactly as it is, if
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you can find that radical,radical responsibility and say,
actually about a year ago mythoughts were so low, I was so
worried about money and as aresult, I now have this kind of
scarcity playing out in theparadigm around me, then guess
what?
You've just realized howpowerful you are as a creator
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and that's a beautifulrealization.
So just change your thoughtsand create something better.
Create something that you wantto experience.
Our reality is just areflection of our vibration, our
mind and our level of beliefthat we have in our ability to
create.
I've got to the point now whereI know that my mind is so
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powerful in creation that I'mreally careful what I daydream
about.
I will only daydream about thefull fruition and manifestation
of my absolute heaven on Earth.
Otherwise I won't.
I won't because my mind is toopowerful to create and
everyone's mind is that powerful.
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And when you get that peace youbecome such a rapid creator
manifesto of your heaven onEarth because you wouldn't let
any negative thought cross yourmind, because you know it's just
not worth it.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and there's a whole other.
There's another piece to that,of course.
If you feel like there'ssomething that needs to come
through and it feels negative orsomething that's old, I always
say just let it just allow tocome through, because it needs
to be felt, because you'resuppressing it, possibly right,
but and then that liberates youright, I feel like, yeah,
(37:51):
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
But what we need to feel and heal it doesn't come
into the mind, it comes into thebody.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Oh, that makes sense.
The mind is where we create.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, the mind is where we create.
Negative thoughts are literallyjust distorted delusion.
They are not real.
They are not real and they'reusually like thought form is
coming into us through, like inthe shamanic realm.
We will be able to create.
In the shamanic realm we willcall it like entity or lower
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frequency that we can tap andthought form is not real.
We can have complete masteringcontrol of all thoughts.
There isn't a single thoughtthat needs to be healed.
It just needs to be changed.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Oh right.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
The body that we heal , you know.
So when sadness arises, wedon't need to have thoughts
connected to the sadness.
We can just go into the energythat we're feeling and actually,
when we have no thought aroundthe sadness, it's just pure
energy.
It will, it will transmute muchquicker because the thoughts,
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the stories that feed the energybody, the feeling body, they
can keep us in a perpetuatingloop of thought, emotion,
thought, emotion, thought,emotion.
And it's not real energy thatneeds to be healed when the mind
is clear and having highvibrational thoughts, and yet
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one day we get all this anxietyarise.
That is what we need to be with.
Or all the sadness arise, youknow, that's what we need to be
with.
And we do that by creatingspace, going into a quiet room,
going sitting on the grass,breathing into your body.
And it's coming into that painbody, into that contraction,
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inhaling to feel it and exhalingto give it voice, to give it
sound like ah.
And if we just hold ourselveslike that, tears might come,
anger might come, a roar mightcome, laughter might come, and
then we feel different after.
And it's not connected to themind, it's spontaneous, it's in
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the inner, shamanic, infiniterealm of the feeling body.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's where that's the most important
part to tune into right and whatI'm getting from, what you're
saying, and I'm aware of this aswell but you know, it sounds
like you're saying that ourthoughts are really not our own.
They're really coming fromsomewhere else, most likely.
You know so not to trust thoseas much.
(40:36):
Just let them move through.
Yeah, yeah, especially yeah,totally, exactly yeah.
And expressing through voice.
I noticed that you have beentalking about that lately or
doing those kinds of practices,and I've been into that myself
for quite some time.
I love voice work andexpressing through voice.
(41:01):
It's just so.
That's been one of the biggesthealing practices for me as well
, on a personal level.
I just love it so much.
So yeah it's like when you feelmake a noise or whatever noise
that wants to come out.
Just even just toning on adaily basis is helpful for that
I find too.
What have you found with thevoice?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It's so powerful.
It's so great that you're doingthat, alison, because I really
do feel like the voice and sound, if it's not present in this
healing work, we're not doing itright.
I really do feel that, yeah,because it's not that we're not
doing it right, it's not we'renot moving the energy to the
(41:43):
full capacity that we could be.
Let me reword that so thethroat is the purification
center.
So to me it's like when energywants to move, it's like it
wants to rise up and whatdoesn't serve wants to come out
the mouth, like out the throat.
(42:04):
So in this, like in the inintuited rebirth sessions, we
find that people start coughing,they start burping, they want
to make a lot of noise.
It's almost spontaneous, ortheir mouth almost closes and
distorts where there is suchtension, such restriction here
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that they can't open that throatand therefore the energy kind
of gets starts to feel like it'sgetting stuck within the body
because it's got nowhere to move.
And the reason most people willnot make sound, unless they are
really encouraged and prompted,is we spend our whole life being
told to shut up.
We're like in school.
(42:46):
We're told to put our hand upto go to the toilet, even babies
, like we give them dummies whenthey start to express.
And all throughout life, youknow, sitting in the office desk
in work, you know you're notgoing to start speaking your
truth, you kind of just sitthere and be quiet and this
(43:07):
starts to create a constrictionin the throat and in the mouth
because there is truth that isnot being expressed and when the
throat can't be open as aportal for purification, then
the body cannot purify and healand transmute in all the lower
(43:29):
sentences as well.
We can't heal fully from ourwomb unless we give our own
voice.
We can't heal fully in our heart, in our ribs, unless we give
our body voice and sound.
So it's like pretty much themost healing thing that someone
can do who is very quiet,subservient in their life.
(43:51):
You know, going to an office,being a good person, getting
everything ticking all society'sboxes, like go into a forest,
take your shoes off and screamlike breathe into your body,
breathe into your lower bellyand give your body some sound.
(44:11):
And it's in that like, yeah,it's like lifetimes, years of
suppression, of not speakingyour truth, just like that's
freedom.
That is freedom.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, that is.
I have experienced that too.
I'll tell you a story that whenI was pregnant with my first
child and in labor it was a 24hour labor I was in a lot of
pain and the nurse told me toshut up and I was just like, oh
it just everything closed up andof course, that then made the
birthing Process much more, muchslower and you know, just
(45:03):
wasn't.
I just didn't feel I was anopening, you know, because I was
like close me up.
And so since then I've learnedthat you know our throat shocker
(45:26):
, like you're saying I love howyou're putting it, because I
haven't heard the, heard it saidin that way where it's
purifying.
That that's really beautiful,but it's connected to our pelvis
, right.
So it is, it's going to have aneffect on that, and there's a
reason why women use soundtraditionally through birthings
(45:47):
because it's it opens the pelvisup naturally.
It's like a, like you said,it's a, it's creating a portal
right for the baby to bedelivered.
So it's something we'renaturally, as women, supposed to
use our voice, and we haveunfortunately experienced, like
you're saying, a lot ofsuppression in that area, and so
(46:12):
I think this is the next levelof healing for many women as
well, and men too.
You know it's just like, yeah,it's.
It's been so interesting Alsothe past couple of years, and
you know, masking up and thatsymbolism for the voice and, and
you know, not able to like, getclose to anybody, or you know
(46:33):
that was interesting too.
But I just think we have had alot of suppression as it relates
to the throat and it's time toheal that.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
And your, your story of that experience in birth is
the perfect and that like theperfect metaphor, the perfect
analogy of that connection, ofwhat happens in the connection
of what happens when we like,limit the expression of ourself
through sound, we close up andthe body can't open, the body
can't heal.
Basically, yeah, it's, it'swomen, but it's also men,
(47:13):
because the like, there's somuch suppressed, like collective
rage and sadness within the men, and there's no encouragement
or teaching of a healthy way toexpress that incredible life
force, power.
That's like.
(47:33):
It's like there's no healthyexpression of that.
So it's like, yeah, then theyoung men, they, they get drunk
or they go to nightclubs and dodrugs or whatever.
And then there's these fightson the streets where it's just
like all that pent up energybeing given expression in such
(47:55):
an unhealthy way.
And you need to be creatingthese healing spaces where,
where men can like wrestle androar, where women can stomp
their feet and sing and and likehow, let the moon, it's these
primal expressions of sound thatfree humanity.
(48:20):
And it's like song as well,like our authentic song has has
such a power to heal and open usat the throat, to heal our body
, and song has been strippedfrom, like this society and song
(48:41):
has been stripped and childrenlike we should be singing.
We should be singing all thetime in community so that our
hearts can open, so our throatscan open and if you ever go to
like a kirtan, like back to yoga, where you're singing in
devotion, you can just feel yourbody opening, your heart
(49:01):
opening, your tears coming.
It's all the throat, like weneed to sing and scream and
laugh and speak from our hearts.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah, we're here to express ourselves that way and,
yeah, I've been.
I don't remember the name ofthe book.
There's another book that I'mreading as well.
That is all about finding yourauthentic voice, and I'll link
it as if people want to see thatbook too, as well as your books
, of course, and it's sointeresting.
(49:35):
There's so many things we don'tknow about the voice.
It's we're.
You know.
There's some cultures thatconsider your voice signature
when you were young, and that'syour voice, you know.
That's like they recognizingknowledge.
That's your voice, that's your,your signature with that and
they sing, right, they sing,they use it, you know, and they
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acknowledge that.
Wow, that's beautiful.
I feel like what we've beenmore taught in the modern
culture is that your voice has asound, a certain way to eat, to
even saying.
You know, like you need to havea certain kind of sounding
voice, and it's that's reallyoverriding the the, our,
(50:19):
ourselves in that, in thatnature, like really getting to
know our sound, becauseeverybody does have a unique
sound.
I've just recently beenconnecting with that with myself
.
I've just found my sound andit's like incredible because
there's a it's, it's wildbecause there's a such a deep
level of self acceptance.
(50:40):
That goes into that right, whenyou really know your sound.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Oh, I love that you've you've connected with
that it's it's.
I feel like it's one of themost healing things that we can
ever do is to find our sound,and I've never considered myself
to be a singer or like have agood voice, and it's actually
such a huge part of my work ismy song.
So I hold, like in the groupenergy healing work, I hold the
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space really like channeled sortof shamanic singing in my one
on one work.
It's like it's all song, it'sall light language and it's like
in the rawness of my voice,where it isn't perfect, in the
rawness of it, it's penetratinglike the rawness of the human
(51:34):
form, the rawness of the humanemotion, and it's like I'm so
grateful that I have thatrawness, that imperfection, to
my voice.
Yes, because that's the voicethat is needed to do this
healing work.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, who's to say it's not a good voice or what
are?
You know, like we're alwaysjudging right, like who's who's
saying that, you know, becauseit's like you said, there's like
a certain tone that you needfor that particular moment,
right, or the healing that needsto happen.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Well, when we just give ourselves to our body, we
just surrender ourselves to whatis into the divine, into the
energy that's moving and weallow song and sound to flow
from that, everyone's voice isdivine, like so divine, and on
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our retreats we always have avoice activation and it's like
accessing the ancestral painthrough the body and accessing
the soul as a frequency and thenallowing that to rise up as
song.
And I just spend, as I holdthat space with my beautiful
(52:52):
friend Brett, as I hold thatspace, I literally just spend
that whole workshop in tearsbecause I'm so moved into the
humility of witnessing, you know, the mother who's 50, who has
suppressed her voice, her wholelife, like breaking open as this
(53:13):
like why free women likesinging in liberation?
It's, it's just the mostbeautiful thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, oh, my God, that is so beautiful.
Oh, wow, it's amazing that youget to witness those kinds of
things, because that's a reallyyeah, that's such a beautiful
process.
Well, we're coming up on thehour, but if you have time, I
would love to get into theintuitive birth birthing book
and your method, right, becausewe haven't.
(53:44):
We've touched on that some, butwe haven't really gotten into
that too deeply today.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, sure, so.
So I teach a modality.
It's called the intuitiverebirth Energy work modality and
it's it's really the templatethat activates healers into
their full authentic power andwhat we're doing.
(54:14):
We teach this online, but alsoin the retreat format.
So we have a seven daypractitioner retreat in January
in Bali and there's still somespace if your listeners are
feeling that, are feeling thatpoor.
So basically, people are comingfrom all different walks of life
into this container.
(54:34):
Some of them are reallyexperienced healers of all
different modalities, like Reikior breath work facilitators or
or spinal flow or kinesiology orwhatever like.
There's so many incrediblehealers that come.
Some people have never laidtheir hands on another person's
body but just know they need tobe there.
(54:54):
So there's all these differentpeople that gather, but the
intention is that everybodyactivates into the fullest
expression of who they are as ahealer.
So my way of healing, veryintuitively, very shamanically,
is so unique to me and it's notgoing to be the same as anybody
(55:15):
else's.
And what happens with healersis they're learning all these
modalities.
They're trying to fitthemselves into a block, into a
box, like into a template, andit's feeling inauthentic.
So they're doing all thesedifferent modalities and then
trying to find a way to sandwichthem together and it's actually
still feeling inauthentic.
So what intuitive rebirth is it?
It's like, okay, what if weleft this all behind and we
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create the space that is so safe, where you fully get in touch
with healers, you fully get intouch with the divine and you
surrender your need to impress,to do a good job, and you set
the intention that the highestwork be done for this beautiful
person that wants to be healed,that the greatest healing and
(56:02):
transformation that can takeplace with the will of great
spirit takes place today, andthat you open intuitively to
receive a blueprint of how thatneeds to look.
So that's the intention, and,with that intention and some
very simple methodical guidancepoints around directing the
breath and the hands and thetouch and the safety of the
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container, what we see, then, isa whole room of the most
phenomenal healers who are justdoing it using their drums,
intuitively connecting to theirlight language, their soul song,
using their hands.
What we're seeing is a roomfull of people being healed who
(56:45):
are just breaking through inwhatever way they need to, with
so much grace.
With so much grace and noexpectation.
Yeah, so for some people it'shuge, it's these huge releases.
For some people it's thesesubtle shifts, these subtle
realizations and everything inbetween.
(57:06):
But yeah, it's the healing,it's the energy work method that
is destroying rigidity in thehealing space?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah, totally, and I can relate to what you're saying
.
I've learned so many differenthealing modalities and
eventually I was just, you know,like, am I going to be this
person who is healing on a tableor am I going to do it with
(57:46):
people in a gym setting?
You know like, it's like Istarted just playing around with
that and I just was going to doit wherever it was, you know
wherever we were, and I think itgoes into what we our next kind
of topic about intuition.
I feel like it's like you know,once you have gotten to that
(58:09):
space like you're talking about,where you bring people into
that space where they can reallyconnect with themselves on that
higher level and channel, andthat healer that knows
intuitively where to go withpeople because they're just
reading the energy right orpicking up on it or that kind of
thing.
It just becomes an intuitiveact and you don't.
(58:33):
You know, you may have learnedskills, but it's not like we're.
The skills aren't what make thehealer the best healer right,
it's their intuition, in a way.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah, and it's their intuition and it's their ability
to surrender the whole healingsession to the Divine, to Great
Spirit, and your capacity totake someone into the depths of
their healing is basically areflection of your capacity to
(59:08):
surrender to the highestfrequency of love and Great
Spirit.
So it's like the more I've beenable to do that, the more like
everyone on one session that Ido.
Now I suppose it looks like anexorcism and at the start it
does, yeah it really does and itis From a shamanic perspective
(59:29):
like it is.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
I've seen some pictures on your website.
I wouldn't be able to do that.
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Like, if you guys go to herwebsite you'll see what she's
talking about.
But I think that is becausethose things just they come out
how they come out, right, andsometimes very abruptly.
Yeah, with people.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yeah, it's what happens in the presence of love.
When there is a very highfrequency of love in the space,
anything that is not love cannotremain in the space or in the
body.
So like people assume that bylooking at the photos that we're
pushing for these big catharticreleases but we're not.
We actually have no intentionof that taking place.
(01:00:12):
It's the workers with GreatSpirit, with the divine and with
the frequency of love.
And when you bring that muchlove into the space and you have
that much trust and that muchsafety there, then anything that
is in love will leave.
But that doesn't happen in alot of other people's healing
(01:00:34):
work because they fear.
They have fear of thoseenergies that want to leave.
And as soon as fear is in thespace, the space closes down,
the ability to heal closes down.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
That makes sense, yeah, because it is a natural
occurrence.
It's a natural thing to happenfor people.
It's a release, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
We're always.
Our body is organically andconstantly spontaneously wanting
to move back into love andpurity and truth.
And when we create a safety, acontainer of safety and love,
that just fast tracks.
It just fast tracks.
So those releases are reallybig and spontaneous, but they
(01:01:21):
just feel like love and you cansee freedom coming back into the
body.
At the end there's tears of joyand liberation rolling down the
person's cheeks because it'slike I'm so happy that I feel
free now.
So what intuitive rebirth is?
(01:01:46):
It's like teaching safety.
Teaching safety in the 3D realm, like how do you hold someone
in safety for that release, howdo you know specifically what to
do and where energy is movingso you can embody that safety
and trust?
And then how to access thehighest frequencies of love with
(01:02:07):
your intention and yourintuitive guidance, to
facilitate the deepest healingwork that can possibly take
place.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
That's powerful, yeah , Beautiful.
Thank you so much.
And gosh, yeah, I would love togo to one of your retreats, but
I don't know if I'll be in Balianytime soon.
But I don't know if I'll beable to travel that far anytime
(01:02:34):
soon, but I would love to.
If it is maybe in Costa Rica orsomething, I might do that
because it sounds reallyincredible and I'll definitely
get your second book, when itcomes out too.
Yeah, that just really soundslike such a gift for healers
right now, because there is alot of even within the healing
(01:02:56):
realm, there's a lot ofdisempowerment with that.
So we have to really step intoour power and trust and create
that container of safeness forpeople so that they can just
naturally let these things go,because it's just a natural
thing for people to, when you'resaying bringing that higher
(01:03:20):
frequency of love, to shed thestuff that is no longer needed
so please yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, sorry, I was just going tosay this is letting the dog out
the first time I saw him walkby I actually thought it was
(01:03:40):
like I wasn't sure if it was ahuman or a spirit.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I was like, wow, what's?
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
going on in there.
It's a real guy.
Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah, I'm glad you moved past so quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
the first time he was like yeah, we kind of changed
my office around.
So now, like, if he has to letthe dog out, he's got to open
the door and go by this way.
But I'm not in the corneranymore.
But yeah, sorry, go ahead andsay what you were saying though.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I was going to say something I always say.
It's like my favorite saying inthis work.
It's just like giving it overto God, just letting go of all
strength or all resistance andjust surrendering to God, to the
divine, and in that wespontaneously heal.
So it's just aligning with thatfrequency.
Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, just connecting to God, connecting to source,
whatever you want to call it.
It's just like there is anunlimited amount of energy there
.
It's like there's no scarcitywhen we can connect fully to
that.
Yeah, so thank you.
Well, please leave my audiencewith where they can find you
when your next book's coming out.
Any websites or links, I'll, ofcourse, include those in the
(01:04:50):
show notes, but please let themknow what you're offering right
now.
Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Sure.
So head over toIntuitaRebirthcom and you'll
find all of the details for theretreat in January, and you can
also do the Level 1 onlinetraining as well.
If you're ready to just like,dip your toe in.
So the retreat will be theLevel 1 and 2.
So you can find all thatinformation on IntuitaRebirthcom
(01:05:19):
and then on the social media,where you can find me is
Instagram, so that's the onlyone that we're really on.
So there's Rhiannon Hines witha little underscore at the end,
and then there's theIntuitaRebirth page as well.
So you can go into theIntuitaRebirth page and really
get a feel for the essence ofthis work and everything that we
(01:05:41):
do, and also feel free to reachout to me, to send me a DM on
my Instagram page if you want toknow more.
I'd be honored to chat with youand open that conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Thank you so much.
Rhiannon Is that anotherversion of Rhiannon?
It kind of feels like Rhiannonin a different form.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
It's actually a really old Welsh name.
It's from Wales, Rhiannon.
My name would have saidRhiannon, but it's a really old
Welsh name.
It's not uncommon in Australia,but I've noticed that everyone
in the States does not know myname.
Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Well, I love it.
Thank you so much and thanksfor coming on today and sharing
so much incredible wisdom andyour energy.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Thank you so much for having me, Alison.
It's just been so beautiful tochat and connect.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Your life is your greatest work of art.
It all relates back to the samefinesse.
Your life is your greatest work of art, and it all
relates back to thesynchronicities.
Welcome to Integrate Yourself,everybody.
I'm your host, alison Pillow,and you can find me at
allasimplowcom and, finally,thrivingprogramcom.
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Today we're here with a veryspecial guest, rianna Heinz.
I hope I said that right.
Is it Heinz or Heinz?
Heinz, I'm so sorry.
No, you've got it.
Alison, did I get it Okay,that's the funny thing about
names Like somebody will tell mehow to pronounce it and then
(01:01):
I'll talk.
You know, my mind will gosomewhere else and I'll go back
to it and I'm like, oh no, whatwas it?
How do you say that again?
So thank you for being kindabout that.
She's an intuitive channelauthor, energy healer and the
founder of intuitive rebirthenergy work method.
She dedicates her life to hersoul work and underpinning her
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vision at every stage of herjourney has been a desire to
initiate as many gifted lightworkers as possible into their
roles on earth at this time.
Rianna has spent the past 10years working and lecturing as a
remedial mess, massagetherapist, teaching yoga,
meditation and breath work, andfor facilitating yoga training,
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teacher training internationally.
Now, using her signatureintuitive rebirth energy work
method, rianna is powerempowering healers to step into
their power as high earning,transformational energy workers.
In October 2022, she launchedher bestselling book the Keepers
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of the Light Codes, a channeledtext to initiate light workers
into their soul led mission hereon planet earth.
Rianna, thank you so much forbeing here.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hey, alison, thank you so much for having me.
It's awesome to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, it is something we have been cooking up for
some time now.
We had to reschedule a coupleof times, so finally we made it
happen, and congratulations onall your books.
By the way, I also published abook in 2022.
So I know how that goes and howthat can be such a major
process, and you're now workingon your third book, so that's
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just really incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, thank you, Congratulations on your book as
well.
Yeah, it's the writing.
The book is the easy bit.
I have now learned.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, it's the integration of, like the
information that comes up.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, yeah.
I experienced that as well,exactly so, yeah, yeah, and now,
so yeah.
I launched the Keepers of theLight Codes last year and now,
probably within the next coupleof months, the next book, which
is the Intuitive Rebirth, isgoing to be getting published,
and really sorry, that's superexciting.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh, that's incredible , Congratulations.
Yeah, it's like you're birthinga new life form.
When you birth a book, right,it's just, it's an incredible
process and then, yes, it doeshave its own energy when it
comes into the world.
So it's a really fascinatingkind of thing.
Yeah, process for sure.
Well, yeah.
(03:51):
So I wanted to just start withlike I would love for you to
share.
You can start by sharing alittle more about what you want
to with the audience, about whoyou are, as well as what you've
been working on.
But one of the things that Iwould love to start with is the
soul's mission, understandingyour purpose and how the soul
guides us, because this has beena major.
(04:14):
I mean, I've run, run into thislately as, like we've had in it,
we're going to speak a littlebit more in the light worker
language in this episode and I'mgoing to say, like this is,
when we shift timelines, whichwe've been doing a lot of lately
, it's like part of our, the wayI've experienced as part of
(04:35):
myself is in that last timelineand have to retrieve it and
bring all my focus back intothis timeline so that I'm all
here and with that, sometimes Ifeel like we kind of lose our
soul's purpose because we werekind of stuck back in another
purpose and now we're here andchanging the purpose again.
(04:56):
So that's how I've been seeingit lately, because I've been
doing a lot of deep divingmyself to recalibrate that for
myself and then it.
You know some of it, some of it.
I think my purpose is stillaligned with who I am and what
I'm doing, but it's just alittle bit different each time.
(05:17):
You know we do those timelinejumps.
So I would love for you to getinto that topic as well.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, right for sure.
So I'll start with my take onthe soul mission, because this
is actually such a huge part ofwhat I teach and such a huge
part of the message in the booksand in the energy work modality
that I teach intuitive reaperand I feel that there is so much
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struggle embedded in, likelooking for your purpose.
There is so much struggle there, like when people realize that
they don't enjoy their job andit's like but what am I here to
do?
And in that there can be somuch deflation and feeling like
you're not good enough or thatyou're out of alignment.
(06:07):
And I feel like so much of thishuman journey is actually
looking for that soul mission,that soul purpose, so that we
can ultimately just feelfulfilled and like our life has
true meaning.
So in that there's actually alot of suffering.
(06:28):
There is a lot of sufferingbecause it's like this quest to
be more, to be recognized, tohave a bigger impact, to show up
more authentically.
It's this quest that takespeople away from self and self.
When I say self, I mean theonly self that can ever exist,
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which is the you right now.
The you right now has a soulmission and it's to be so
connected to the essence oftruth, of who you are, that
everywhere you go you emanatetruth as a vibration, and in
that you are activating humanity, you are changing the world.
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And if in each moment you canshow up in more truth and more
authenticity and more love, then, moment by moment, day by day,
that is going to start to take aunique form, a unique
expression.
That might look like some actof service starting a podcast,
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becoming a healer, a healthcoach, whatever it is but when
it comes to the soul mission, wehave to take it off the
pedestal because we have toomuch expectation of this
grandeur of how it should look.
And you can't go from being ina job that is unsatisfying,
(07:55):
unfulfilling, where you'rebasically completely
disconnected from the essence ofmagic that you are.
You can't go from that to thisgrand, fully expressed version
of your soul mission, like whereyou're doing it.
It's huge, it's epic.
You can't go from one to theother overnight.
(08:15):
And if you try and find thatfully expressed soul mission
from that place of likestuckness, like a job that feels
unfulfilling, if you're tryingto find that it's not going to
happen and you're actually justgoing to feel disheartened,
you're going to keep wonderinglike what is it?
What is it?
So to me, the soul mission isto embody truth and love.
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To embody truth and love andeach day to ask yourself how
does love express through metoday, how does truth express
through me today?
So one day you might wake upand you might say truth and love
expresses through me today bywriting, and you do that.
(09:00):
But if you're looking like, ismy soul mission to be a New York
Times bestselling author,you're going to feel unfulfilled
until you meet that expectationthat you've created with your
mind and ultimately there'sdistortion there.
So the soul mission is to showup in each moment in truth and
love and to have no expectationof how that should ultimately
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look, but to surrender to thefull expression of what spirit
is trying to flow through you,what spirit is trying to berth
through you, and that is alwaysgoing to be incredibly
magnificent.
But if you, just today, giveyourself to love, give yourself
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to truth, then you're on track,you're doing it, you're in
absolute, complete and totalalignment with your soul mission
.
And the beautiful thing aboutthat is that the soul mission,
the sole purpose for everysingle person, is so unique that
it cannot be taught by another.
(10:13):
You know so.
So, for example, my soulmission, as it expresses through
me right now, is to teachintuitive rebath, which is like
a deeply somatic transformativeenergy work method.
But anyone that comes into myfield, it is highly unlikely
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that their absolute, authenticsoul mission is to do exactly
what I do.
So they can come into into thisfield to receive the codes of
activation that awaken withinthem truth and love, and then
from that they move into adeeper state of alignment of
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their own expression, of theirsoul mission.
So then, how that relates tojumping timelines, as you, as
you, asked, is it's like themore connected to the absolute
frequency of truth and love, themore magic we can create.
(11:18):
You know.
So when you're at the start ofyour journey and you're living
in a false paradigm where yourrelationship relationships
aren't really built on love,where your work isn't built on
love, where your home doesn'tfeel like love, and you're kind
of limited by these veils ofdistortion, and you start to
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breathe into your body and youstart to heal, and you start to
look at all that you're holdingwithin you that is distorted or
untrue and you start to breakinto a new vibration, you start
to access a new vibration andthen from that higher frequency
you step into a higher timelineof what you can experience, of
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what you can emanate, of whatyou can action in your soul
mission.
Our timelines are always up,leveling, up, leveling in
alignment with our own abilityto be in a higher, higher
frequency, a higher vibration.
So truth and love to me 10years ago looked like not
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partying so hard, right, notpartying so hard, being kind to
myself like in my early 20s,like being kinder to myself,
re-correcting my thoughts thatwere judgmental of myself or of
others, and at that point I wasa lecturer in remedial massage
and that was the reflection ofmy soul mission at that time, at
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that level of truth and love,of that vibration.
And then, when I upgraded mybody, I started to heal deeply,
I started to upgrade my thoughts.
Then, boom, I opened a yogastudio and it's sort of like I
left that whole remedial massagetimeline behind and moved into
yoga teaching, you know, andboom, boom, boom.
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this kept happening over andover.
So, yeah, that's, that's mytake on the soul mission and
timelines.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That was beautiful.
You said so much there that justreally I felt it resonated with
me so much and what I'vepersonally experienced and also
seen other people experience too, and yeah, I mean, we put so
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much pressure on ourself to findpurpose in our life and you
just hit the nail on the head,which is basically just finding
the truth of who you are in thatmoment and, like I say, just
loving yourself asunconditionally as you can in
that moment.
That's all you can really do andso you know, that is the truth
(14:13):
of, like.
I loved how you use thebestselling author example,
because I think we try to strivefor these successes or goals
that we see other people doingoutside of ourselves and we
think that's what we're supposedto be doing, or that's what I,
(14:34):
you know, in order to besuccessful, I must do that, I
must take that path, but, likeyou said, it may be just doing
what you're doing right now andthat could be loving and
satisfying enough for you, Likejust really caring so deeply for
yourself, like you said, takingthose steps of self care and
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leading you to that next step inyour life of purpose, right.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, exactly, but the beautiful thing is is also
honoring that we are the mostpowerful creators in all of
existence.
Like we are, we are a source.
You know, we have that light ofthe Creator within and
therefore our ability to createis limitless.
So when you start to heal andcome into yourself and move into
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that vibration of love whereyou love yourself and you're on
the path of finding the truth ofwho you are, and then you get
an idea drop in and it's likeyou know what, I think I could
be a bestselling author or Ithink I could.
I think I could have a reallysuccessful podcast.
And then you get that idea dropin right, if you can hold the,
(15:52):
if you can hold that vision,because that vision has been
seeded to you by the Divine, ifyou are in an energy of love and
you receive a vision, that'sthe Divine seeding you with more
direction and more clarity foryour mission.
So, like at one point, you gotthis idea right, I'm going to
start this podcast.
And when you were fully in yourheart with it, it would have
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felt limitless.
And like when our energy dropsand we get into fear and we
start to feel like what we'redoing is not enough, then the
energy of what we're creatingcontracts.
But if we can stay in our heartwith something, then we stay in
the frequency of creation andthen we can start to vibrate
(16:43):
messages into the field, like Iam a bestselling author, I am a
successful healer, I am like,and you start to feel that with
no attachment, no attachment,just to play, to play in the
field of creation, then it'sgoing to happen very, very
(17:06):
quickly.
So the soul mission is not aboutlike forcefully having an idea
and pushing and striving andthinking I'm not enough or I'm
not on purpose until I achievethat.
The soul mission is aboutshowing up with love in every
moment, about being open toreceive visions and ideas when
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we're in that energy of love.
It's about having the courageto action those visions.
That's the big piece, thecourage knowing, okay, that
vision was ceded to me by thedivine.
Therefore I'm fully supportedin the creation of this vision
Having the courage to create butthen having enough non
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attachment that when it stopsfeeling like love, you just let
it go and then you wait for thenew vision to cede in.
It's like this beautiful dancebetween creation from a space of
love and trusting the presentmoment enough to kind of not
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care, to not care to surrender.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, I love that.
That is beautiful.
Yeah, it's because it's moreabout, like you're saying,
inviting the allowance of it andsurrendering to that, and if
it's speaking to your heart, ifyou're inspired to take the
action, you do it until it's notinspiring anymore.
I suppose is what I heard yousay.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we can be so inclined to
overcomplicate things.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh yeah, I've done that many times.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I like need these complicated meanings.
And it's like the path ofalignment is the path of joy.
So it's like if there's no joythere, it's not it.
Yeah, exactly, it's not to saythat every day is going to be
easy.
It's like, of course, we'regoing to have to move through
(19:22):
our fears, we're going to haveto dig deep to overcome
obstacles and challenges, butultimately, every time that we
do that, we should be expandinginto more and more joy.
Yeah, so that's so simple Ourpath is joy.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, so that's the discernment there for people,
and not pushing it past a placeof non-joy, because some people
I don't know, I know I was agymnast when I was younger and
so I would just keep pushing and, pushing, and pushing and
(20:01):
sticking with something andpushing past the resistance,
physically and mentally andemotionally.
And so this is, althoughgymnastics was a, and I'm, you
know, also, I see the light ofbeing an athlete and how
wonderful that was for me andalso realize how much that
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played a part in my developmentand how I now, you know, have
seen the world and how itrelates to creation.
In a way, and I've, it's, for meit's, it's been a path of
willing, you know, willing itthrough.
And then I would say, probablythe last five, maybe five to,
(20:46):
maybe five years or so, I'vebeen learning how to allow, how
to invite that part of myself totake over the divine will
aspect and, like my will isimportant, but it's, it works,
in collaboration with divine.
So that's how I see it and it'sa, and it's something I'm
practicing, because I'll go backinto that space of, you know,
(21:11):
needing to push, you know, or,and I would push so hard that I
would just numb myself to know,like when to stop, you know in
some ways on it when I was doingwhen I was an athlete Because
you're going, you are I mean,that is what we're called to do.
When we're in a sport like thatwe're pushing past the point of
(21:35):
pain, right, so eventually wehave no real indication of when
to stop and when to keep going,you know.
So that's something that I'veworked with and that's bringing
that up for me right now, as yousay, as you speak, that I'm
like, wow, yeah, that'sinteresting because I think
that's been my biggestchallenges, just learning the
(21:58):
discernment with that.
But the more I let go andconnect more with my inner child
and really be, and I don'tattach to the performance aspect
of creativity, then it reallyfeels joyful for me, you know,
and that's when I'm like this isgreat, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, but I guess what you received as well,
alison, it's like such anempowering lesson of resilience,
like resilience on this path isreally important Because that
piece that I spoke about, likeaction, requires so much courage
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and requires us to act whenit's uncomfortable, and a lot of
us in this world of infinitecomforts don't know how to act
when it's uncomfortable.
So, like your, your lesson inthis is, like, actually really
different to most of thecollective.
Your lesson is, like you're soused to acting with discomfort,
(23:05):
remembering, learning how toremember like is this actually
true to me right now?
Does this actually serve meright now, you know?
So that's a really differentlesson and I think a lot of men
actually have to embody thatmore.
Like my husband's journey tothis point where he's just super
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surrendered and on his path andhe has so much creative energy
but he just he lets things goreally easily.
That's been a hard place forhim to get to Because the fear
of like walking away or givingup or something has always been
huge for him.
He's had to like really learnto surrender and that it's okay
(23:47):
to give up when somethingdoesn't serve.
But actually a lot, of a lot ofthe collective is on the other
end of the spectrum, where wewant this life that is so
comfortable, but we wantmiracles.
And actually the miracles onlyhappen when you meet the
universe in that space ofcourage, walking through like
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the fire of fear in thedirection of joy and lasting
pleasure.
And most people actually cannever live the life of their
highest purpose, of their truestand most authentic soul calling
because they're not willing toget uncomfortable.
(24:32):
They're not willing to getuncomfortable, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
That makes a lot of sense, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You have to be uncomfortable to.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
There has to be risks that you have to take in
putting yourself out there right, and, like you said, the
courage has to be there to it'sreally even more.
What I've seen with people mostrecently is just a lot of it's
taking a lot of this is like thebig fear for people to feel you
(25:07):
know, to feel what they're notfeeling and like have the
courage to do that and it's andthat's been really big, you know
, for the people that I'veworked with, for you know the
experience I've also done withmyself, it's that seems to be.
The uncomfortableness lieswithin.
(25:30):
Feeling it right, because we'rebeing comfortable is to be.
I don't know if neutral is aword for this, but maybe the
neutral zone or just not, maybeapathetic or you know just but
(25:50):
yeah.
Yeah, I mean we have to be ableto feel all the emotions, the
ranges of emotions, and and thathas been, that has been, I
think, for me, that's been mypath.
I mean I've there's many layersof that and that's been
liberating in many ways, butalso the people that I've worked
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with personally and the peoplethat have been in my group.
It's like this is the big thingthat really transmutes the
energy to the next level.
Right, I mean, it's thatalchemization of that fear that
we're holding, or that blockthat we're holding in our body.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
And we're suppressing .
Speaker 1 (26:36):
You know that we're not expressing it and that has
been.
For me, the biggest healingmodality is just personal
expression, really, and whatI've been helping people with
and it seems to be what we'reneeding right now to get out of
our comfort zone because we, wearen't really being ourselves.
(26:57):
Like who is that?
You know you have to ask yourquestion who is this?
Who am I?
You know when I'm?
You know, with the soul missiondiscussion, it's like that
question of who am I?
How do I get to know myself?
How do I understand myself?
How do I have compassion formyself?
That exploration has to betaken and that takes a lot of
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courage to do right.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
It takes a hell of a lot of courage, but that's where
the magic lies and, like whenwe feel we heal and when we heal
ourselves, we come intoalignment with that, the energy
that we spoke about love andtruth.
And within pain, like pain onany level, pain of the heart
(27:48):
because you're sad, or there'sgrief, or pain of the body, like
the headache or the migrainethat won't go away.
Whatever pain is there in yourlife, like it's a portal.
It's a portal and it presentsas a contraction, but following
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every contraction there'sexpansion.
And I write there's a chapterin my new book and it speaks
about this it's like we have tohonour the pain and actually
follow the journey of thatcontraction within the body and
within our external reality.
And when we can follow thecontraction with loving
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neutrality, without judgement,we follow it into an expansion.
Like if you think of a woman inlabour, maybe if there's all
the mothers tuning in right now.
It's like when you giveyourself permission to feel the
remarkable pain of a contractionor the intensity of a
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contraction in labour and youfollow it, you are like broken
through then into like asoftening, an expansion, where
you're a different person towhat you were two minutes ago.
Your body is softened, you'reprepared, you're more
surrendered as a mother.
And that's true in everything,like when we try to run away or
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avoid or numb the pain, we can'tfind the expansion that this
contraction is trying to show us.
So, for example, if you haveinjured your back, my go-to is
when I'm busy when I've been sobusy in my life doing and doing
(29:48):
and doing I throw my back outand it's like I lay in bed with
this agony.
And if I try and run away fromthe agony and get back to life,
the pain persists.
But when I follow the pain andI be with the pain and I lay in
my bed and I breathe into thatpain and I ask it what are you
(30:10):
trying to show me?
What are you trying to show me?
And have love for the pain,knowing that this contraction is
going to bring you into ahigher frequency of love?
Ultimately, then it does that,it does that and usually the
back pain is like you need torest, you need to slow down, you
(30:34):
need to stop.
And when I get that, my backheals and I usually surrender
into love and have all these ahamoments that I wouldn't have
had if I fought the pain, andthis is true in everything, like
if you're in a job that youhate and you're depressed,
(30:57):
you're sad, like each day islike a heavy cloud weighing down
on you that doesn't seem toshift, like that's pain right.
Breathe into that heavinesslike.
Breathe into that cloud.
What are you trying to show me?
And in that open, inquisitivequestion to the divine, you will
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be shown when you stopresisting the pain and stop
trying to numb the pain.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yes, that's a wonderful way to express it, and
I have been a holistic personaltrainer for many years and I
still work with people on thephysical level as well, and it's
very different than what I usedto do.
But people would be like theywould have some pain, either the
(31:49):
back pain or in another area ofthe body.
What can I do?
What can I do to get rid ofthis pain?
They want me to give themexercises or something.
Sometimes I would, but then ifit persisted, I was just like
just lay down.
Just lay down and do nothing, orwatch a comedy or something
(32:12):
while you're laying down,because it's really just your
body, like you're saying, yourbody just needs that
regeneration, it needs you topay attention to it, because
we're not actually putting thetime, the interest and the
attention into ourselves.
That's what that's telling us,because we're so busy doing
(32:32):
other things outside of our self.
So, if we can just giveourselves that time, that
attention and that love, reallyit's really giving yourself love
, giving your body love.
It wants to know it matters, itwants to know it exists.
Everything wants to beacknowledged.
So that's all we really have todo, and I love that you brought
(32:53):
that up, because it is importantfor people to realize, like we
live in a world that's so busyand everybody's just hustling
and trying to strive, but we're,in a way, I see it as and this
is not a judgment, but I do seepeople not they're distracting
(33:15):
themselves from themselves, fromthemselves, as I like to say
basically.
So we're not really spendingtime with ourselves like we
would a child.
Like you wouldn't want toignore your child, you don't
want to ignore yourself either.
So, yes, it's very important.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, and you know we spoke at the beginning about
being in that vibration of loveto receive those visions, those
ideas, those insights about thedirection of our life.
And it's like, how are we goingto receive if we are just like
not even stopping for a second?
So often we are like pushedinto a state of surrender so
(34:01):
that we can receive.
Spirit is always trying tocommunicate with us, guide us,
direct us.
But if we're going a millionmiles an hour, like constantly
thinking, radio on in the car,tv on at home, there is no space
for insight to come in.
So when we're forced into quiet, into stillness, into rest and
(34:26):
recovery, to be with ourselves,we're forced to create space to
receive, to be directed.
And when you can find themiracle in everything that feels
like pain or like a challenge,when you can find the miracle,
then you're in, you'reessentially in mastery, you've
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found mastery and life becomesthis beautiful dance, this
beautiful journey of contraction, expansion.
And each time you're in thatcontraction it's like, oh my
gosh, I wonder where I'm heading, like something beautiful is
about to happen and it's just aperspective shift.
And with that change ofperspective, a miracle does drop
(35:09):
in, because we are thatpowerful as creators.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, I believe that too.
I believe it, yeah, and I knowit.
You know because I'veexperienced it, and you know
it's so interesting that many ofus we don't remember that and
it's something that we have tokeep reminding ourselves like
we're creating this.
We're that powerful that we arecreating every moment in our
(35:39):
lives.
You know, it's just incrediblewhen you think about it.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, we are literally creating all of it,
and that can be a hard pill toswallow for some people because
they'll look around and be like,but my, I don't like my house
and I like my job, I didn'tcreate this.
But if you can just get reallyradically real with yourself and
take responsibility andownership for the part that
you've played in the creation ofyour life exactly as it is, if
(36:07):
you can find that radical,radical responsibility and say,
actually about a year ago mythoughts were so low, I was so
worried about money and as aresult, I now have this kind of
scarcity playing out in theparadigm around me, then guess
what?
You've just realized howpowerful you are as a creator
(36:28):
and that's a beautifulrealization.
So just change your thoughtsand create something better.
Create something that you wantto experience.
Our reality is just areflection of our vibration, our
mind and our level of beliefthat we have in our ability to
create.
I've got to the point now whereI know that my mind is so
(36:52):
powerful in creation that I'mreally careful what I daydream
about.
I will only daydream about thefull fruition and manifestation
of my absolute heaven on Earth.
Otherwise I won't.
I won't because my mind is toopowerful to create and
everyone's mind is that powerful.
(37:12):
And when you get that peace youbecome such a rapid creator
manifesto of your heaven onEarth because you wouldn't let
any negative thought cross yourmind, because you know it's just
not worth it.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and there's a whole other.
There's another piece to that,of course.
If you feel like there'ssomething that needs to come
through and it feels negative orsomething that's old, I always
say just let it just allow tocome through, because it needs
to be felt, because you'resuppressing it, possibly right,
but and then that liberates youright, I feel like, yeah,
(37:51):
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
But what we need to feel and heal it doesn't come
into the mind, it comes into thebody.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Oh, that makes sense.
The mind is where we create.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, the mind is where we create.
Negative thoughts are literallyjust distorted delusion.
They are not real.
They are not real and they'reusually like thought form is
coming into us through, like inthe shamanic realm.
We will be able to create.
In the shamanic realm we willcall it like entity or lower
(38:21):
frequency that we can tap andthought form is not real.
We can have complete masteringcontrol of all thoughts.
There isn't a single thoughtthat needs to be healed.
It just needs to be changed.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Oh right.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
The body that we heal , you know.
So when sadness arises, wedon't need to have thoughts
connected to the sadness.
We can just go into the energythat we're feeling and actually,
when we have no thought aroundthe sadness, it's just pure
energy.
It will, it will transmute muchquicker because the thoughts,
(38:59):
the stories that feed the energybody, the feeling body, they
can keep us in a perpetuatingloop of thought, emotion,
thought, emotion, thought,emotion.
And it's not real energy thatneeds to be healed when the mind
is clear and having highvibrational thoughts, and yet
(39:20):
one day we get all this anxietyarise.
That is what we need to be with.
Or all the sadness arise, youknow, that's what we need to be
with.
And we do that by creatingspace, going into a quiet room,
going sitting on the grass,breathing into your body.
And it's coming into that painbody, into that contraction,
(39:43):
inhaling to feel it and exhalingto give it voice, to give it
sound like ah.
And if we just hold ourselveslike that, tears might come,
anger might come, a roar mightcome, laughter might come, and
then we feel different after.
And it's not connected to themind, it's spontaneous, it's in
(40:07):
the inner, shamanic, infiniterealm of the feeling body.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's where that's the most important
part to tune into right and whatI'm getting from, what you're
saying, and I'm aware of this aswell but you know, it sounds
like you're saying that ourthoughts are really not our own.
They're really coming fromsomewhere else, most likely.
You know so not to trust thoseas much.
(40:36):
Just let them move through.
Yeah, yeah, especially yeah,totally, exactly yeah.
And expressing through voice.
I noticed that you have beentalking about that lately or
doing those kinds of practices,and I've been into that myself
for quite some time.
I love voice work andexpressing through voice.
(41:01):
It's just so.
That's been one of the biggesthealing practices for me as well
, on a personal level.
I just love it so much.
So yeah it's like when you feelmake a noise or whatever noise
that wants to come out.
Just even just toning on adaily basis is helpful for that
I find too.
What have you found with thevoice?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It's so powerful.
It's so great that you're doingthat, alison, because I really
do feel like the voice and sound, if it's not present in this
healing work, we're not doing itright.
I really do feel that, yeah,because it's not that we're not
doing it right, it's not we'renot moving the energy to the
(41:43):
full capacity that we could be.
Let me reword that so thethroat is the purification
center.
So to me it's like when energywants to move, it's like it
wants to rise up and whatdoesn't serve wants to come out
the mouth, like out the throat.
(42:04):
So in this, like in the inintuited rebirth sessions, we
find that people start coughing,they start burping, they want
to make a lot of noise.
It's almost spontaneous, ortheir mouth almost closes and
distorts where there is suchtension, such restriction here
(42:25):
that they can't open that throatand therefore the energy kind
of gets starts to feel like it'sgetting stuck within the body
because it's got nowhere to move.
And the reason most people willnot make sound, unless they are
really encouraged and prompted,is we spend our whole life being
told to shut up.
We're like in school.
(42:46):
We're told to put our hand upto go to the toilet, even babies
, like we give them dummies whenthey start to express.
And all throughout life, youknow, sitting in the office desk
in work, you know you're notgoing to start speaking your
truth, you kind of just sitthere and be quiet and this
(43:07):
starts to create a constrictionin the throat and in the mouth
because there is truth that isnot being expressed and when the
throat can't be open as aportal for purification, then
the body cannot purify and healand transmute in all the lower
(43:29):
sentences as well.
We can't heal fully from ourwomb unless we give our own
voice.
We can't heal fully in our heart, in our ribs, unless we give
our body voice and sound.
So it's like pretty much themost healing thing that someone
can do who is very quiet,subservient in their life.
(43:51):
You know, going to an office,being a good person, getting
everything ticking all society'sboxes, like go into a forest,
take your shoes off and screamlike breathe into your body,
breathe into your lower bellyand give your body some sound.
(44:11):
And it's in that like, yeah,it's like lifetimes, years of
suppression, of not speakingyour truth, just like that's
freedom.
That is freedom.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, that is.
I have experienced that too.
I'll tell you a story that whenI was pregnant with my first
child and in labor it was a 24hour labor I was in a lot of
pain and the nurse told me toshut up and I was just like, oh
it just everything closed up andof course, that then made the
birthing Process much more, muchslower and you know, just
(45:03):
wasn't.
I just didn't feel I was anopening, you know, because I was
like close me up.
And so since then I've learnedthat you know our throat shocker
(45:26):
, like you're saying I love howyou're putting it, because I
haven't heard the, heard it saidin that way where it's
purifying.
That that's really beautiful,but it's connected to our pelvis
, right.
So it is, it's going to have aneffect on that, and there's a
reason why women use soundtraditionally through birthings
(45:47):
because it's it opens the pelvisup naturally.
It's like a, like you said,it's a, it's creating a portal
right for the baby to bedelivered.
So it's something we'renaturally, as women, supposed to
use our voice, and we haveunfortunately experienced, like
you're saying, a lot ofsuppression in that area, and so
(46:12):
I think this is the next levelof healing for many women as
well, and men too.
You know it's just like, yeah,it's.
It's been so interesting Alsothe past couple of years, and
you know, masking up and thatsymbolism for the voice and, and
you know, not able to like, getclose to anybody, or you know
(46:33):
that was interesting too.
But I just think we have had alot of suppression as it relates
to the throat and it's time toheal that.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
And your, your story of that experience in birth is
the perfect and that like theperfect metaphor, the perfect
analogy of that connection, ofwhat happens in the connection
of what happens when we like,limit the expression of ourself
through sound, we close up andthe body can't open, the body
can't heal.
Basically, yeah, it's, it'swomen, but it's also men,
(47:13):
because the like, there's somuch suppressed, like collective
rage and sadness within the men, and there's no encouragement
or teaching of a healthy way toexpress that incredible life
force, power.
That's like.
(47:33):
It's like there's no healthyexpression of that.
So it's like, yeah, then theyoung men, they, they get drunk
or they go to nightclubs and dodrugs or whatever.
And then there's these fightson the streets where it's just
like all that pent up energybeing given expression in such
(47:55):
an unhealthy way.
And you need to be creatingthese healing spaces where,
where men can like wrestle androar, where women can stomp
their feet and sing and and likehow, let the moon, it's these
primal expressions of sound thatfree humanity.
(48:20):
And it's like song as well,like our authentic song has has
such a power to heal and open usat the throat, to heal our body
, and song has been strippedfrom, like this society and song
(48:41):
has been stripped and childrenlike we should be singing.
We should be singing all thetime in community so that our
hearts can open, so our throatscan open and if you ever go to
like a kirtan, like back to yoga, where you're singing in
devotion, you can just feel yourbody opening, your heart
(49:01):
opening, your tears coming.
It's all the throat, like weneed to sing and scream and
laugh and speak from our hearts.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah, we're here to express ourselves that way and,
yeah, I've been.
I don't remember the name ofthe book.
There's another book that I'mreading as well.
That is all about finding yourauthentic voice, and I'll link
it as if people want to see thatbook too, as well as your books
, of course, and it's sointeresting.
(49:35):
There's so many things we don'tknow about the voice.
It's we're.
You know.
There's some cultures thatconsider your voice signature
when you were young, and that'syour voice, you know.
That's like they recognizingknowledge.
That's your voice, that's your,your signature with that and
they sing, right, they sing,they use it, you know, and they
(49:57):
acknowledge that.
Wow, that's beautiful.
I feel like what we've beenmore taught in the modern
culture is that your voice has asound, a certain way to eat, to
even saying.
You know, like you need to havea certain kind of sounding
voice, and it's that's reallyoverriding the the, our,
(50:19):
ourselves in that, in thatnature, like really getting to
know our sound, becauseeverybody does have a unique
sound.
I've just recently beenconnecting with that with myself
.
I've just found my sound andit's like incredible because
there's a it's, it's wildbecause there's a such a deep
level of self acceptance.
(50:40):
That goes into that right, whenyou really know your sound.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Oh, I love that you've you've connected with
that it's it's.
I feel like it's one of themost healing things that we can
ever do is to find our sound,and I've never considered myself
to be a singer or like have agood voice, and it's actually
such a huge part of my work ismy song.
So I hold, like in the groupenergy healing work, I hold the
(51:14):
space really like channeled sortof shamanic singing in my one
on one work.
It's like it's all song, it'sall light language and it's like
in the rawness of my voice,where it isn't perfect, in the
rawness of it, it's penetratinglike the rawness of the human
(51:34):
form, the rawness of the humanemotion, and it's like I'm so
grateful that I have thatrawness, that imperfection, to
my voice.
Yes, because that's the voicethat is needed to do this
healing work.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, who's to say it's not a good voice or what
are?
You know, like we're alwaysjudging right, like who's who's
saying that, you know, becauseit's like you said, there's like
a certain tone that you needfor that particular moment,
right, or the healing that needsto happen.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Well, when we just give ourselves to our body, we
just surrender ourselves to whatis into the divine, into the
energy that's moving and weallow song and sound to flow
from that, everyone's voice isdivine, like so divine, and on
(52:30):
our retreats we always have avoice activation and it's like
accessing the ancestral painthrough the body and accessing
the soul as a frequency and thenallowing that to rise up as
song.
And I just spend, as I holdthat space with my beautiful
(52:52):
friend Brett, as I hold thatspace, I literally just spend
that whole workshop in tearsbecause I'm so moved into the
humility of witnessing, you know, the mother who's 50, who has
suppressed her voice, her wholelife, like breaking open as this
(53:13):
like why free women likesinging in liberation?
It's, it's just the mostbeautiful thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, oh, my God, that is so beautiful.
Oh, wow, it's amazing that youget to witness those kinds of
things, because that's a reallyyeah, that's such a beautiful
process.
Well, we're coming up on thehour, but if you have time, I
would love to get into theintuitive birth birthing book
and your method, right, becausewe haven't.
(53:44):
We've touched on that some, butwe haven't really gotten into
that too deeply today.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, sure, so.
So I teach a modality.
It's called the intuitiverebirth Energy work modality and
it's it's really the templatethat activates healers into
their full authentic power andwhat we're doing.
(54:14):
We teach this online, but alsoin the retreat format.
So we have a seven daypractitioner retreat in January
in Bali and there's still somespace if your listeners are
feeling that, are feeling thatpoor.
So basically, people are comingfrom all different walks of life
into this container.
(54:34):
Some of them are reallyexperienced healers of all
different modalities, like Reikior breath work facilitators or
or spinal flow or kinesiology orwhatever like.
There's so many incrediblehealers that come.
Some people have never laidtheir hands on another person's
body but just know they need tobe there.
(54:54):
So there's all these differentpeople that gather, but the
intention is that everybodyactivates into the fullest
expression of who they are as ahealer.
So my way of healing, veryintuitively, very shamanically,
is so unique to me and it's notgoing to be the same as anybody
(55:15):
else's.
And what happens with healersis they're learning all these
modalities.
They're trying to fitthemselves into a block, into a
box, like into a template, andit's feeling inauthentic.
So they're doing all thesedifferent modalities and then
trying to find a way to sandwichthem together and it's actually
still feeling inauthentic.
So what intuitive rebirth is it?
It's like, okay, what if weleft this all behind and we
(55:40):
create the space that is so safe, where you fully get in touch
with healers, you fully get intouch with the divine and you
surrender your need to impress,to do a good job, and you set
the intention that the highestwork be done for this beautiful
person that wants to be healed,that the greatest healing and
(56:02):
transformation that can takeplace with the will of great
spirit takes place today, andthat you open intuitively to
receive a blueprint of how thatneeds to look.
So that's the intention, and,with that intention and some
very simple methodical guidancepoints around directing the
breath and the hands and thetouch and the safety of the
(56:25):
container, what we see, then, isa whole room of the most
phenomenal healers who are justdoing it using their drums,
intuitively connecting to theirlight language, their soul song,
using their hands.
What we're seeing is a roomfull of people being healed who
(56:45):
are just breaking through inwhatever way they need to, with
so much grace.
With so much grace and noexpectation.
Yeah, so for some people it'shuge, it's these huge releases.
For some people it's thesesubtle shifts, these subtle
realizations and everything inbetween.
(57:06):
But yeah, it's the healing,it's the energy work method that
is destroying rigidity in thehealing space?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah, totally, and I can relate to what you're saying
.
I've learned so many differenthealing modalities and
eventually I was just, you know,like, am I going to be this
person who is healing on a tableor am I going to do it with
(57:46):
people in a gym setting?
You know like, it's like Istarted just playing around with
that and I just was going to doit wherever it was, you know
wherever we were, and I think itgoes into what we our next kind
of topic about intuition.
I feel like it's like you know,once you have gotten to that
(58:09):
space like you're talking about,where you bring people into
that space where they can reallyconnect with themselves on that
higher level and channel, andthat healer that knows
intuitively where to go withpeople because they're just
reading the energy right orpicking up on it or that kind of
thing.
It just becomes an intuitiveact and you don't.
(58:33):
You know, you may have learnedskills, but it's not like we're.
The skills aren't what make thehealer the best healer right,
it's their intuition, in a way.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah, and it's their intuition and it's their ability
to surrender the whole healingsession to the Divine, to Great
Spirit, and your capacity totake someone into the depths of
their healing is basically areflection of your capacity to
(59:08):
surrender to the highestfrequency of love and Great
Spirit.
So it's like the more I've beenable to do that, the more like
everyone on one session that Ido.
Now I suppose it looks like anexorcism and at the start it
does, yeah it really does and itis From a shamanic perspective
(59:29):
like it is.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
I've seen some pictures on your website.
I wouldn't be able to do that.
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Like, if you guys go to herwebsite you'll see what she's
talking about.
But I think that is becausethose things just they come out
how they come out, right, andsometimes very abruptly.
Yeah, with people.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yeah, it's what happens in the presence of love.
When there is a very highfrequency of love in the space,
anything that is not love cannotremain in the space or in the
body.
So like people assume that bylooking at the photos that we're
pushing for these big catharticreleases but we're not.
We actually have no intentionof that taking place.
(01:00:12):
It's the workers with GreatSpirit, with the divine and with
the frequency of love.
And when you bring that muchlove into the space and you have
that much trust and that muchsafety there, then anything that
is in love will leave.
But that doesn't happen in alot of other people's healing
(01:00:34):
work because they fear.
They have fear of thoseenergies that want to leave.
And as soon as fear is in thespace, the space closes down,
the ability to heal closes down.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
That makes sense, yeah, because it is a natural
occurrence.
It's a natural thing to happenfor people.
It's a release, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
We're always.
Our body is organically andconstantly spontaneously wanting
to move back into love andpurity and truth.
And when we create a safety, acontainer of safety and love,
that just fast tracks.
It just fast tracks.
So those releases are reallybig and spontaneous, but they
(01:01:21):
just feel like love and you cansee freedom coming back into the
body.
At the end there's tears of joyand liberation rolling down the
person's cheeks because it'slike I'm so happy that I feel
free now.
So what intuitive rebirth is?
(01:01:46):
It's like teaching safety.
Teaching safety in the 3D realm, like how do you hold someone
in safety for that release, howdo you know specifically what to
do and where energy is movingso you can embody that safety
and trust?
And then how to access thehighest frequencies of love with
(01:02:07):
your intention and yourintuitive guidance, to
facilitate the deepest healingwork that can possibly take
place.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
That's powerful, yeah , Beautiful.
Thank you so much.
And gosh, yeah, I would love togo to one of your retreats, but
I don't know if I'll be in Balianytime soon.
But I don't know if I'll beable to travel that far anytime
(01:02:34):
soon, but I would love to.
If it is maybe in Costa Rica orsomething, I might do that
because it sounds reallyincredible and I'll definitely
get your second book, when itcomes out too.
Yeah, that just really soundslike such a gift for healers
right now, because there is alot of even within the healing
(01:02:56):
realm, there's a lot ofdisempowerment with that.
So we have to really step intoour power and trust and create
that container of safeness forpeople so that they can just
naturally let these things go,because it's just a natural
thing for people to, when you'resaying bringing that higher
(01:03:20):
frequency of love, to shed thestuff that is no longer needed
so please yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, sorry, I was just going tosay this is letting the dog out
the first time I saw him walkby I actually thought it was
(01:03:40):
like I wasn't sure if it was ahuman or a spirit.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I was like, wow, what's?
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
going on in there.
It's a real guy.
Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah, I'm glad you moved past so quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
the first time he was like yeah, we kind of changed
my office around.
So now, like, if he has to letthe dog out, he's got to open
the door and go by this way.
But I'm not in the corneranymore.
But yeah, sorry, go ahead andsay what you were saying though.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I was going to say something I always say.
It's like my favorite saying inthis work.
It's just like giving it overto God, just letting go of all
strength or all resistance andjust surrendering to God, to the
divine, and in that wespontaneously heal.
So it's just aligning with thatfrequency.
Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, just connecting to God, connecting to source,
whatever you want to call it.
It's just like there is anunlimited amount of energy there
.
It's like there's no scarcitywhen we can connect fully to
that.
Yeah, so thank you.
Well, please leave my audiencewith where they can find you
when your next book's coming out.
Any websites or links, I'll, ofcourse, include those in the
(01:04:50):
show notes, but please let themknow what you're offering right
now.
Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Sure.
So head over toIntuitaRebirthcom and you'll
find all of the details for theretreat in January, and you can
also do the Level 1 onlinetraining as well.
If you're ready to just like,dip your toe in.
So the retreat will be theLevel 1 and 2.
So you can find all thatinformation on IntuitaRebirthcom
(01:05:19):
and then on the social media,where you can find me is
Instagram, so that's the onlyone that we're really on.
So there's Rhiannon Hines witha little underscore at the end,
and then there's theIntuitaRebirth page as well.
So you can go into theIntuitaRebirth page and really
get a feel for the essence ofthis work and everything that we
(01:05:41):
do, and also feel free to reachout to me, to send me a DM on
my Instagram page if you want toknow more.
I'd be honored to chat with youand open that conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Thank you so much.
Rhiannon Is that anotherversion of Rhiannon?
It kind of feels like Rhiannonin a different form.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
It's actually a really old Welsh name.
It's from Wales, Rhiannon.
My name would have saidRhiannon, but it's a really old
Welsh name.
It's not uncommon in Australia,but I've noticed that everyone
in the States does not know myname.
Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Well, I love it.
Thank you so much and thanksfor coming on today and sharing
so much incredible wisdom andyour energy.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Thank you so much for having me, Alison.
It's just been so beautiful tochat and connect.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Your life is your greatest work of art.
It all relates back to the samefinesse.
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