EP: 191 Frequency Imbalances Lead To Health Challenges with Dr. Jacqueline Gutierrez

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to Integrate Yourself, everybody.
I'm your host, alison Pillow,and you can find me at
alisonpillowcom andfinallythrivingprogramcom.
Today I'm here with a veryspecial guest.
Dr Jacqueline Gutierrez is anilluminating force in the realm
of holistic medicine.
As a board-certified doctor ofnatural medicine and a certified

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biofield tuning practitioner,she guides her clients toward
radiant well-being through hervirtual practice and store, the
Wellness Trinity.
Driven by a profound calling,dr Jacqueline is fervently
dedicated to restoring herclients' energy and vitality
drawn from her personal journeythat began with the poignant

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loss of her father at the tenderage of nine.
Her own struggles with chronicfatigue, emotional turbulence
and digestive challenges igniteda relentless pursuit to unravel
the roots of holistic healing.
At the heart of hertransformative approach lies
Cerebral Detox Program, ameticulous journey,

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bio-individualized for eachclient.
Dr Jacqueline combines holisticremedies, energy medicine and
lifestyle adjustments tocomprehensively detoxify the
body, invigorate the mind andharmonize the emotions.
She birthed the EmotionalWellness Cleanse Program to
complement her clients' detoxprotocols after recognizing a

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crucial missing element in thehealing journey.
In this program, dr Jacquelinedelves into the vibrational
realm with various modalities,including biofield tuning, the
ZytoEvox and emotional body code, to assist individuals in
overcoming stress and traumathat has manifested illness and

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blocked abundance in their life.
Acknowledging theinterconnectedness of mind, body
and spirit, dr Jacquelineapproaches her clients
holistically, unwaveringlyseeking answers to intricate
health challenges.
Grounded in resilience andguided by a higher wisdom, she
bears witness to what some mightdeem miracles on a regular

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basis.
Thank you so much, dr Jacqueline, for coming on the show today.
I'm so excited to talk aboutwhat we're going to talk about
so many good things, someaspects of holistic health that
just some people just don't knowabout, which is a lot of the
things you help people with.
So thank you for coming on.
Yeah, thank you for having mehere.

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You are so welcome.
So I would like to just getstarted by you sharing more
about how you help your clientsand your patients, and you
really specialize in parasitecleansing and when it comes to
parasites, people aren't reallysure what that's about.

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There's a little bit of fearbehind that for some people.
I would love for you just tostart by talking about that and
then we can get into how you usethe frequency as well to help
people with that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
So in the cerebral detox program I ended up
learning a very amazing muscletesting assessment where I can
figure out on the spot what typeof pathogens like parasites,
funguses, mold, bacterias and aswell as toxins and how your
mitochondria is doing.
At the same time and that's afocal point of when people first

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come to me I do that muscletesting assessment.
I'm like, okay, here's the bugsand here's the toxins, here's
how your mitochondria is doingas a result of all this and I
muscle test for a couple otherthings as well too.
I'll see how their organs andglands are doing and I'll also
see how much of that stress thatI'm seeing in those organs and
glands is a frequency imbalance,aka emotional.

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So that will lead me to theother program that you had
mentioned, the emotionalwellness cleanse, where I'll
work through the frequencyimbalance or their emotions and
stress and trauma that theirbodies tell that has made them
sick.
So that's what I do with thatand then in between so with the
cerebral detox program I'llcoach people, I'll see them

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about once a month, we'll do themuscle testing assessment and
then we'll potentially do someother biofrequency scans or lab
testing.
But there's just so much thatcan be done just with straight
muscle testing, where I don'tneed to bring in all those extra
tools until later to kind ofjust cross-reference everything,
making sure we're dealing withthe whole picture and rebuilding

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the body appropriately and allthat.
Of course we're looking at thelifestyle as any other
practitioner good practitionerwould be.
But I think by the time someonecomes to me and they're like, oh
, what is this parasite thing orthis frequency thing, I think a
lot of people have already kindof crossed some of those things
off their list, like okay, theyknow they should eat healthy,
they know that they should, youknow, do exercise and do certain

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things to be healthy, but thenthere's just like, what is this
thing that is missing?
So that's where I tend to comeinto people's picture with with
working with them is thosereally confusing extra questions
where they're like I don't knowwhy I'm still not feeling good.
So the whole thing withparasites is really personal.
Yeah Right, starting off firstand foremost, like I had to deal

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with a lot of parasites and andI kept having to ask deeper
questions of why, why you know,like if you want to know why
you're not feeling good, youneed to keep asking why until
you get to the root.
Before that, even the parasiteshad done a lot of liver
cleanses and flushed a bunch ofgallstones.
I'm like, okay, liver andgallbladder kept being
highlighted for me and all thedifferent.
I was doing something calledblood cell analysis at the time
and so I kept seeing these signsof the stress in my liver and

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gallbladder and I kept passingthese stones and then I was like
, oh, shoot the parasites.
I worked for a really well-knowncompany called Cellcore
Biosciences and I got to workwith a bunch of really amazing
practitioners over there andlearn their system and how they
discover these parasites.
A lot of people are not findingregular GI maps and just

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regular, even functionalmedicine tests are not really
the best to find them.
So this is why I brought itupon myself to learn muscle
testing, and so when I was there, I learned how to figure out do
you have a ropeworm, do youhave a sister Like?
What type of parasites do youhave?
How bad is this, in addition toall the, all the other types of
infections people can have?
And so here I am, working forthe best company.

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I put my practice kind of onpause at that point for like
nine months, but I kept havingto do these parasite cleanse and
I'm like I understand there's achemical part of it.
So if you have toxicity, youhave too much toxins, you're
going to overgrow theseparasites because they're like
garbage collectors and they'realmost kind of trying to keep
you safe.
So when you get rid of theparasites, you're getting rid of
all the toxins and infectionsthat are inside of them too, and

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so I already knew that.
But at some point I was like,okay, god, what, what is?
There's something else I'mmissing, and that's when I got
the answer of frequency.
And I kind of already wasdabbling a little bit with
different frequency modalities,like flower remedies, but I
wasn't really going as deep as Ineeded to and specific as I
needed to to personally addressthings and as well as for family

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members that were dealing withcertain things as well too, and
that's what really kept mepushing for more answers, like
any other practitioner.
You're like I need to be betteror my family is dying, or so I
was doing the cerebral detoxpart, and then I'm like, oh my
God, this frequency world, and Istarted going down that rabbit
hole and started releasingtrapped emotions and in all

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those various ways you mentionedin the intro and was seeing
what we would consider signs andmiracles and wonders and like
this is so crazy, I can'tbelieve this is the answer,
right.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Right, like who would have thought all these other
fancy things, you would think atleast.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
And I still love my herbs, I love my you know my
really amazing products that Iuse and I try to keep things
super top-notch and everythingelse.
But I didn't realize that somuch of why the biochemistry is
imbalanced and why theseparasites are overgrowing and
other types of infections isbecause of the body being

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unharmonized.
It became stress and traumathat the body stored.
So I checked out your YouTube.
I'm like it looks like you havean audience that probably kind
of gets this already a littlebit right.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, we talk about a lot of different aspects of
health and anywhere frommetaphysical to holistic health
practices, spirituality andthose things.
So a lot of my audience is usedto hearing things that are
outside of the box.
But you know, when it comes tohealing, we've just been so

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conditioned to think thateverything is just healing on
the physical.
And you know, all the solutionsare just on the physical plane
and some of them are.
But in my experience too, Ijust I've seen so a greater rate
of healing when we're healingon more of that quantum field or
where we would be in tune, likeyou said, harmonizing the body

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and really bringing into itsnatural resonance which people
don't understand sometimes thatwe have a vibration and what
that means is that your body isbuzzing, your cells are buzzing
at a certain rate and then itcan get impeded when we have
dense emotions that aresuppressed in our body, like

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you're saying.
And then what that does?
Eventually it turns intosomething physical, right?
So everything energeticmanifests to the physical,
because that's just where itcomes from.
But we don't put that togetherso much because we're in a very
3D world a lot of times.
But the way it does work is,you know, any health conditions.

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They start from a thought orfrom an energy that comes in
manifest in a physical form, andso that's how I see parasites
too, Like people talk aboutentities in in spirituality, but
really, you know, an entity canturn into a physical
manifestation as a parasite,basically it's been there for a

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long time, right.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's kind of what happened, exactly what I the
revelation that I've had is thatyou know, I, I, I call myself a
christian, I believe in jesuschrist and all the bible and all
that, but I was like, is it is?
I think parasites are the samething as the devil.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, it's, you know, I see it as like yeah, you
could see it that way, for sure,yeah, You're having a frequency
that's off.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right Right, it's just something that is negative
and then it almost like it formsinto something physical aka
parasite, exactly energy, whenyou start dissecting both of
those things and so well it'slike it's eating you alive it
right and I think that it is.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
When I think about that too, I think about the uh,
the parasite as being, like yousaid and when you were talking
about it, how it is protectingus to some extent, like it
protects us for a while, like anentity.
When an entity comes in whichis really I see it as like a
shadow part of you.
Let's talk about the energeticaspect of it, which is when you

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like step out and you kind ofabandon part of yourself or you
feel like life is toooverwhelming and part of you
that might be a shadow aspectsteps in and takes over.
Well, it's protecting you.
It's kind of giving you a handuntil you have the courage and
then you are taking fullresponsibility to step in and be
fully you.

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So, in a way, you can see thatas a parasite, as a physical
manifestation of that.
We're just being a victim tothat for a while, or letting
that feed off of us while wefigure it out or we try to heal
those parts that really need ourattention.
So there's many different waysyou can look at it, but yes,

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there's like there is realphysical manifestations of
parasites that are.
They freak people out, but butyeah, it's.
It's one of those things where Ifind, when people start
attuning more to their lifeforce, energy, and they start to
align more with who they areand what they really are here to

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do and what they really loveand brings them joy, I think, as
they step more into that too,like their metabolism gets
better on a physical level, youstart to get better because
you're starting to take care ofyourself and you're starting to
take responsibility for yourself, and then your metabolism
starts functioning better, and abetter functioning metabolism

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will start to not be a greatenvironment for a parasite to
live.
So in some ways, as you gethealthy, you're actually
protecting yourself fromsomething like that.
It is one of those thingsthat's interesting because it is
all about.
It all goes back to frequency,it all goes back to vibration,
because when our body is healthyand harmonized, then those

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kinds of things can't live inour body and they can't live in
our energy field.
Right?
That's kind of how it works,yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, I've seen it where I've done frequency work
on myself or clients, evenremote frequency work for a
group, and people will messageme after like I pass worms the
next day.
I'm like I didn't even give youa parasite like a parasite
cleanse.
I mean I've, I've done thatamazing.
We're setting that intention,but I've done also sessions

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where we're not.
But their body just gets morerelaxed and more harmonized and
all of a sudden they'rereleasing all this stuff that
they don't like, not supposed tobe there.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Exactly Cause they you know it's, it's bringing in
that light.
You know you're, you're lettinggo of the density of your, of
your body, like the I guess wecould call it the lower
frequency stuff, and then, youknow, the higher frequencies
come in and then that stuffcan't live in there in that
environment anymore.
So I think that is so powerfuland amazing that you're doing

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that kind of work with peopleand then they can see that like
wow, this is miraculous, butit's also natural, right.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, and don't get me wrong, I'll still give people
herbs and I'll give themsupplements and things like that
too, but I just find it goeshand in hand.
Obviously, I know at this pointyou can do frequency work and
get rid of these things, butthere's a biochemical part of us
that keeps me still doing thatpart of the work too.
And I mean, if you're verydeficient in vitamin C, I was

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just reading this morning howit's important for your
lymphocytes and so if you arenot building your lymphocytes
very well, you're going to havemore pathogens.
It could be a parasite orsomething else.
So you know simply, like ifsomeone needed to address that
type of deficiency, then youknow that's very important too.
Like you need to make sure yourbiochemistry is in line.

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But so much of our biochemistryis going to be affected by how
harmonized the body is.
Well, we actually will movearound nutrients.
So if your body's stressed, forexample, the longer that it's
stressed it'll be acidic andyou'll pull out calcium from
your bones and it will displacein other areas of your body,
like your pineal gland or yourheart or your stomach.

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It will also pull out iron fromyour cells and so you could
become anemic and you know theythink iron is the answer, but
it's.
You know, there's a whole storyabout other things that could be
yeah right Paraphrase can eveneat your cells iron as well, too
, and so the body's biochemistryis like what you're thinking

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and what you're vibrating at is.
Everything just kind of fallsin line afterwards good or bad,
depending on where you're at.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, it's, it's so, and I love how you say because
we do have to approach it fromthe physical and the energetic,
like like we were talking aboutbefore we started.
You know you were talking aboutyourself and like how you
realizing how nutrient deficientmotherhood can make you, just
because you're giving all ofyour nutrients to the baby.

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That's, you know, in you andthen and then you know you don't
get any sleep when, when thebaby comes, and so it's like we
don't really honor this time ofnutrient rebuilding because
there's so many people peopleother than moms nutrient
deficient and so we do have tobring those nutrients back in

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and and know when we're, whenwe're nutrient deficient as well
, because so much of like thefitness industry is so focused
on you know calories andcounting calories.
Still, we're doing that andwhat the thing I teach my
clients is really it's aboutbringing the right nutrient
dense foods so that you, yourbody, has something to work with
.
It's so important.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, I was in the fitness industry too and, um, I
was calorie counting and doingall that at some point and I had
to literally put away the scalefor a year.
I understand, yeah, it wasobsessive, it was too much and I
was like, god, just give me thebody that you want me to have.
And you know, it's amazing.
Like now I feel okay, but, um,yeah, back then it was such an

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unhealthy that's, that's a wholething.
I had to kind of dig at myselfactually with, um, just recently
I didn't even realize how muchuh, the I mean this is bad body
image over a decade ago.
I'm almost 37 now and I Irealized after doing some recent
work on my myself energetically, that I was like, oh my God, at
24, I used to work in thenightlife from like Las Vegas

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nightlife from 21 to 24.
And I didn't really realize thatthat was a part of my adrenals
being off as well too.
Oh yeah, so and let me take astep back I did a hair test on
myself recently so we're talkingabout the whole mom burnout
thing so I did a hair mineralanalysis on my myself, which is
one of the labs I actuallyreally like.
It's more affordable andthere's so much information in
there, and minerals are justlike a foundation of a lot of

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the enzymes and everything inour body as well too.
So I realized that my adrenalswere off like the last three
tests I did, and it was justeven slightly lower.
And I did the first one ofthese three when I was pregnant,
like the beginning of mypregnancy, and then one about
maybe seven months after it, andthen like another year almost
after that.
So my baby's about a littleover one and a half now, and so

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in that time I have not sleptone full night, with the baby
nursing still and the dog wakingme up at night.
The dog literally wakes me upto go pee, like generally at
least once a night sometimeseven twice.
I'm like really.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
The dog and the baby.
Now.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
My husband just sleeps upstairs, I'm like, okay,
at least one of us can sleep,right.
So that obviously will messthings up.
But I think you know justbecoming a new mom is and you
know, for someone watching ifthey're not a mom or haven't
gone through that experience orthey're past that or whatever
going through a new stressor inyour life can highlight trauma
that you've never dealt withbefore too.

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Yes, it just makes things it'slike a mirror, like oh, I didn't
know that was there.
So that's kind of what I'vebeen dealing with the last year
and a half.
I've done so much emotion, workon myself.
It's like I had no idea.
I've done a lot already and I'vecome to like a much better
place.
You know where I'm at with allthat, but anyway, so that hair

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test, this whole adrenal thing,really highlighted to me like
you need to think about yourwhole lifestyle.
Like, of course I'm going totake my nutrients and stuff to
to balance that ratio that is islow, reflecting a hypo, like a
underactive adrenal glands.
But at the same time I know,because I do this work and I do
emotional work and all that, nowI'm like I know this is not

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going to completely fix it, somaybe it'll temporarily kind of
go up and you know if I'm takingthese nutrients, but that's not
going to solve the problem If Iam overexerting myself when I
should, you know, be my moremindful of that right now.
So, um, I mean this is onlyrecent.
Like I mean, again, we gothrough new things and you have
to you learn new things aboutyourself and that's kind of more
my revelation.
And so I started doing some ZYTOe-box work.

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That's another program that Ido.
What is that?
So the ZYTO is a program, abiofrequency program that you
can do scans to figure outdifferent things that are going
on in your body on an energeticlevel.
I had used it for a long timefor my health coaching stuff.
But they have this other programyou can add to it, called the

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e-box, and it does differentscans and it's kind of like a
Rife machine.
It'll do different scans on atopic that let's say chronic
fatigue.
You put chronic fatigue inthere, you can figure out, like
all these different statements,so that could be positive or
negative, it could be a word.
Every type of statement has afrequency to it and so it will

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figure out where you're off andwhat you would actually do the
program on and then, once yousee what type of statements are
highest at what's going to helpbalance you, you'll actually end
up recording.
It will record your voice andthen it will figure out what
frequencies to put into yourbody to balance yourself on that

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.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's crazy.
Yeah, it's like super on thespot, high-tech software and so,
and then you just kind of goback and forth until you see
certain patterns and you're like, okay, I can move on to the
next thing.
Yeah, it's amazing.
So I sat there this last weekand I did that for like three
hours.
I was like I'm going to do itfor this low sodium, the
magnesium ratio that I'm seeingon my my hair test.
Like let's see what's relatedto that.

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You can literally do it foranything.
So I was like I'm going to seewhat's related to that.
And all this stuff came up.
That, like the statements thatcame up, I was like talking
about being skinny and myrelationship with food and
things like that.
I'm like this is not me now.
This is me when I was 20, 21 to24 years old.

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Like all of it led back to.
So, yeah, this low sodium tomagnesium ratio and adrenals
this is all related to chronicfatigue.
Like I had dealt with that.
The earliest time I canremember dealing with that was
that time in my life.
And now it made sense.
I was like I didn't realizethere was an emotional component
like like to this level.
So that emotional right.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
That's so interesting .
So that energetic component wasstill with you, even though you
dealt with the physical part ofit.
Yeah, and consciously I movedon.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I'm like I'm not living that life anymore.
Like, yeah, right, yeah, Idon't stay up all night and
cocktail and you know, noisy,smoky environment, like I'm not
doing none of that anymore.
It's been so so long ago.
But I didn't realize theemotions that I was dealing with
was back then was a big part ofwhy I was chronically fatigued

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after and and then, you know,I've got a lot better over the
years, but this is probably whyI was manifesting parasites and
hair loss and digestive thingsand all kinds of other stuff I
was going through.
And then, and then you know,here I am in a lot better place.
I'm like, okay, I'll actuallyhave a baby now at 35.
And so then it like come fullcircle.
I'm like, oh my God, that thatwas still there.

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I had no idea, so anyways, it'sinteresting.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Absolutely, that's so cool and yeah, it's like it's
like that last layer right,because you dealt with all the
other aspects of it, but thatwas still kind of creating that.
It was still there to createthat stress for you and to until
you, like, noticed it andyou're like, oh okay, so well
yeah, and I just thought, well,okay, I'm not sleeping, so that

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could be why my adrenals aretamed right now.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Right, I mean, that probably still is part of it,
Right?
Yeah, obviously the biochemicalaffects everything too, but
yeah, I didn't know that's whatwould come up on an emotional
level.
That is just wild to me thatthat cosmic chronic fatigue for
all these years was.
You know, and I know you're inthe fitness industry, so it's
like the people are listening tothis and they're into fitness

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and they have a bad relationshipwith food in their body.
You might want to think about.
That could cause you someadrenal problems to our
relationship with food.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
And yeah, like I've talked about this before,
patterns with food too, likewhen I was a gymnast, I used to
eat really early in the morning,maybe a very high carb
breakfast, and then which waslike lighting a match and then
it going out immediately.
So, yeah, it's like lighting amatch and then it going out

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immediately.
As far as like my energy, youknow, and then I would be, you
know, in school all day and thenright after school I'd have a
snack and then I'd go to thegymnastics gym and I'd be there
for four hours and then not eatdinner till nine, and then I'd
wolf down a huge dinner, it'slike.
So I had this pattern of eatingthat was really kind of like,
at the very end of the day I'deat all my calories almost for

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the day, which is not healthy atall.
So when I get stressed, I'llnotice in the past that I don't
eat.
I don't eat, and that's notvery common for a lot of people.
A lot of people will eat whenthey feel stressed, but I'm on
the opposite end of thatspectrum, which I don't eat when
I'm emotionally stressed, andso I look back on that as that

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pattern that I had when I wasyounger, when I had a lot going
on and I was doing a lot and Iwas kind of stressed out, you
know, because my schedule was sofull I wouldn't eat, and then I
would eat at the end of the daywhen everything was over, you
know.
So it's really interesting tolook back on our food patterns
too, and when we're in highstress times, because that's

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what we're going to go toimmediately when we're older and
we're in stress, right.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
So bringing this up at a young age, because I, while
I attribute you know, based onmy findings in the last week a
lot of this from that time in mylife, I have to really sit back
and think about.
I'm like I was always a verymuch type A straight, a student
type of person, so I was alwaystrying to be perfect in that way

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and I was staying up late and,you know, always studying and I
mean, obviously that's honorableto do stuff like that, but I
was overex, late and alwaysstudying.
Obviously that's honorable todo stuff like that, but I was
overexerting myself.
For sure.
At a very young age I think wewere just taught that that's
normal.
As I'm unraveling this wholeadrenal journey for myself, I'm
like this whole society ismessed up.
I'm like this is not justbecause I chose this.

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Like you said, it's a program.
You said that before we started.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
It's a program, like you said that before we started.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's a program that we've, like, kind of fallen into
, you know, in our society, yeah, and so you could even think
about that, tying that back tothe parasite energy.
But yeah, so I think about,like, like, just that, even that
thought process of at a youngage we're taught to fill our
schedules up so much do everysingle activity.
At least that's how we were inour, our house, like my mom's a

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single mom trying to manage usall right.
My dad again died when I wasyoung and so, um, so everyone's
burnout, you know, and um, Ijust think of that, even, like
that parasitic energy that justwas like eating me up, like when
I'm thinking, okay, I need tokind of relax so I can heal
myself.
I can't tell you how much of atension it's been.

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I'm like, okay, I'm trying togo.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yes, I totally can relate to that and it takes time
to like unwind that tensionbecause it's it's so, it's so
woven into our psyche becauseit's happened at such a young
age.
And I was just uh with a clientthe other day that was saying
the exact same thing and and howshe's really struggling with

(27:54):
this and and you know, similarthing to what we're talking
about and like learning thesethings.
And you know, you just get to apoint in your life where you're
like learning these things andyou just get to a point in your
life where you're like, okay,what do I even feel?
Like what, what is my like?
Where do I begin?
And other people end, you know,and, and and.
So I've been on that path forsome time, but some people are

(28:15):
just now coming to that like,okay, I haven't really been
noticing how I feel, I haven'treally been actually connecting
with that, and so what that'sdone, you know it makes us like
we learn, we learn to connectwith the outside world and go
from there and do, do, do, untilwe're just killing ourselves.
You know, and and it's, it islike a parasite, it's like a con

(28:39):
.
I kind of think of it asconsumerism, like the same
energy.
It's like I kind of think of itas consumerism.
Like the same energy.
It's like more it's neverenough.
And so, yes, I think it's anold.
It's a program that we're alsonow just trying to release and
repattern for ourselves andunderstand what is really
natural and knowing that it isvery important to honor

(29:01):
ourselves and to honor thatspace in between that we need
for us to even just feel how wefeel, aside from what we're
seeing in the outside world.
You know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And you know we can be go, go, go for different
reasons too.
Once we stop and rest, a lot ofemotions will come up for a lot
of people most likely and youknow, for me it's really analyze
my go, go, go attitude aboutthings.
I'm like always feeling like Ineed to achieve something.

(29:34):
I always need to feel like Ineed to be like the best at
everything.
I'm like why, why do I feellike that?
And also, even with makingmoney and being a business
person, it's it's like okay, howmuch do you really need?
Like the whole consumerism partis what you're talking about
like, and I'm not the most, um,I mean, I like to have nice
things, but I don't feel like Ineed like a million different

(29:54):
cars and things like that.
Like I'm not, you know,materialistic in that that sense
, but, um, you know, at somepoint I don't know why I just
it's like I think I looked atbusiness almost like a game too,
and you, I would achieve onelevel.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm like OK, I got to go there, so I know I don't
know why.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Why am I stressing myself out?
And it's.
It could be fun in that way,right, it could be like a new
adventure, but I think we justneed to have a healthy context
of like when to rest in themidst of all this too.
So that's more my game now.
It's like okay, well, how do I?
How do I still um do greatthings in life, help help people

(30:34):
?
You know um produce things likewriting and my social media,
and you know actually helpingpeople, my sessions and all that
.
How do I?
How do I manage you know,greater loads, helping people in
my sessions and all that.
How do I?
How do I manage you know,greater loads of this?
Um, potentially greater loads.
Maybe I don't need greaterloads, but how do I keep
progressing in this businesswithout um being burnout is is
big, and I know that me figuringthis out for myself is going to

(30:55):
help other people as well too.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think if we're doing it out of, uh, from a
place of joy and play andcuriosity, you know, if it's, if
it's coming from that kind ofan emotional center, I think you
can't go wrong and you're notprobably going to overwork
yourself.
If it is coming from that, itdepends on what you really want
to, I guess, accomplish.
But I'm in this group now again, every year I do this group

(31:20):
called the artist's Way and wedo this, we read the book
together and I'm a guest speakeras well for this group, and the
last chapter that we wentthrough together was about doing
through your emotional center.
Like, what is your emotionalcenter on this action that
you're doing?
So, for example, like you know,it could be anything like it

(31:42):
could be to achieve something.
It could be for affirmation.
It, like you know it could beanything like it could be to
achieve something.
It could be for affirmation.
It's like you know, what do you?
Why do you want to get to thislevel of success?
What is it about that that'sgoing to help you emotionally?
What are you trying to achievehere to get this emotional state
?
And you know it used to be forme that I needed, like I needed,

(32:02):
affirmation.
I needed to know that I wasgood enough.
You know, for many, many yearsI was like that and so what that
did was it just led me downthis path of of like looking at
like I don't know.
You go on social media andinfluencers and they're telling
you and coaches too, likethey'll say I've had some really
good coaches, so the coachesI'll say that I've had are

(32:23):
really amazing and don'tnecessarily recommend this.
But I see other coaches saying,oh yeah, you know, you must be
making a hundred thousanddollars a month if you're going
to be a good coach and you'rejust kind of telling you like,
how, like, what success shouldbe for you.
But really the most importantpart is to connect with that,

(32:44):
that sense of success for you,and that's what is real, that's
what it matters.
Because if you can't, if youcan't do that on an individual
basis, then you're going to berunning and chasing the not
enoughness forever.
You know what could besuccessful could be just being
able to have enough leisure timeto to do the things you love to

(33:05):
do during the day and, you know, have your own business.
You know, for me, you know itjust kind of switched over to my
emotional centers, play and joynow.
So if I'm not having you know,if it's not joyful for me, if
it's not playful, if I'm notlearning, then I'm not going to
do it, like that's already youknow, like a value that can help

(33:26):
me discern between the thingsthat you know people are saying
is the best thing to do and thethings that I know is better for
me.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
So, you know, put the right word with that, I think,
what's best for you, becausemaybe that is good for someone
else.
but it's not necessarily bestfor everyone, and for me too.
As I build my practice and allthat too, I just kept going in
the direction of like, oh, I gotto do more with this, like I
have to have a team and I haveto have a social media team and

(33:56):
all this other stuff.
But at the end of the day I'mthinking like, okay, well, what
really?
Really?
Because you, you know, when youdo stuff like that, you get,
you have more responsibility,right.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Now you're taking care of people.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
So, you know, and we've kind of brought some
people in and out and I'm notsaying that I won't ever have,
like you know, a multiple personteam here.
Like I have my husband here, Ihave a my web guy that helps me
and it's mainly just us.
I am thinking maybe I'll have apractitioner at some point, but
when I honestly really analyze,like who I am inside, I don't

(34:28):
think that I am a person thatreally want all of that.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I know I did that too I can have one person work for
me and that's.
That would be perfect, becauseyou know I.
And then you know other peoplecome in as independent
contractors to support which Ihave hired before.
But and then you know otherpeople come in as independent
contractors to support which Ihave hired before.
But I totally agree with you.
I realized that about myselftoo.
I'm like I'm not that personactually, and so that's a huge
thing to realize about yourself.

(34:54):
That's really big.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, and trust me, I'm still navigating this Cause.
I, I, I feel the programmingI'm like, but what?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
about this Exactly yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
And I think that, like you know, there's there's
ways to make money in doing whatyou're called to do.
So I don't think that, like youknow, it depends what you're
doing too.
And then again, how much do youreally need?
I was following this socialmedia girl and she ended up
getting super burnout.
I mean, she was on everythinglike super amazing videos,

(35:28):
instagram, everything, and shewas trying to up-level in the
next thing, as you know we'retalking about, and then she just
pulled the plug.
It was like, actually,nevermind, I'm taking a
sabbatical for a year or for,she said, indefinite, but now we
know it's it's been a year,about a year, and she's spilling
out all this stuff that she'stalking about.

(35:50):
And I think she kind of hassome similar revelations, like
why do I want this big team?
And I'm not doing this for me,I'm doing this because I'm
trying to keep up with theseother people.
So, I like I said kudos to youif that's what you want to do,
that's what you really feeldesignedly led to do.
And I think, like tying this into the frequency work I keep
every time we keep talking aboutthis, I'm like the crown chakra

(36:11):
.
The crown, it's like.
Who are you specificallydesigned to be?
That energy in the crown chakrais that like, what is your
purpose?
Who are you?
And if you're not in line withwhere god has you in this world,
in this universe, and doingwhat you're supposed to be doing
, you're gonna feel like the.
When it's off, you'll feel veryoverwhelmed, you'll feel very
out of sync with nature and timeand that's a good point when

(36:33):
you are when you are living yourpurpose and and being you know
your authentic self, you'll feelvery much like more, much more
more in the flow.
So as long as you're gettingsunlight, because sunlight
affects that area up there- too.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, yeah.
How do you?
What do you recommend inPortland for sunlight exposure
when we don't have much?
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I have several bio mats here.
Now it's a bio mat, pmf mat,bio mat, yeah, um so, red light
therapy.
So and and I guess, well, we Iknow you wanted to talk about
biofield tuning we totally wentwith this oh no, it's totally
fine, but what I wanted to.
Oh, here's my thing.
So basically, so I do thistherapy called biofield tuning
and we have this biofield aroundour body and we have a negative

(37:30):
charge that's related to beinggrounded in the earth and then a
positive charge is related toour relationship with the sun.
So we're like one big batteryterminal.
So, after analyzing this wholething and tuning a bunch of
people's biofields and to getrid of stress and trauma that's
causing them to be sick and notfeeling abundant and all that
kind of stuff, I was very drawnto these PEMF mats because I'm

(37:54):
like oh, it's grounding you andyou're getting light therapy, so
you're you're, you're a starand your sun are happier, your
battery terminals.
So I totally noticed, sinceI've moved up here in the last
four years, like when it's grayand dark, I get depressed and I
more so noticed it.
I think the first year I wasjust trying to hang on for dear

(38:15):
life because it was 2020 andthings were all chaotic.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
You moved here in 2020?
Into 2019?
And everything was to hell.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I was like oh my.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
God.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
And then we were on fire and I'm like what are we
doing over here?

Speaker 1 (38:33):
It was crazy.
That's when the crazinessstarted, I mean wow.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
So I was transitioning, like you know my
business, and then I had a joband then I ended up not having.
I got fired from that job.
That's a whole different storyin itself.
It was uncalled for, butanyways it was.
It was definitely for a reason,though, like I knew what he was
doing, because I was supposedto dive in his frequency work
anyways.
After that, I ended up gettingpregnant, which is, I think,
part of the plan of me nothaving that job.

(38:58):
I needed to get back to mypractice online and and I ended
up up getting pregnant.
But yeah, during that time Iwas pregnant, I was like I could
.
I could notice when the sunwould come out and I'd go
outside and walk the dog orwhatever, and I'm like I
suddenly feel happy again.
Obviously, pregnancy willdeplete a lot, as we mentioned,
but um, but yeah, the sun Inoticed so much and even just

(39:19):
this last winter too, I wasstarting to feel a little off
and I was getting into myinfrared sauna a lot in the
morning.
I would just like get in thereand he's one and a half years
old, my baby now, and he wouldcome in there with me and it's
one that you sit.
It's a wooden one.
It's different than what youprobably have been used to
thinking of sun.
It's wooden but it looks almostlike a go-kart, so it's like a

(39:40):
one person cedar thing, and soI'll have the baby sit right
there next to me in this in myinfrared sauna and we sleep.
I sleep with my red light, Ihave my, even my dog.
I have my dog sleep with a redlight because I'm all I'm
concerned about everybody's sunhere.
So, and I noticed, when I'msitting on this mat, when I'm,

(40:01):
when I'm working, my energyfeels a lot better too.
Yeah, so not only, like are wedealing with EMFs from all the
computer and phones and thingslike that, which, when you're
using the grounding, like thePMF mats, you're, you're going
to be able to kind of pull someof that stuff out, but also
getting the light therapy too.
So it's, it's so amazing whenwe pay attention to those two

(40:23):
simple things of grounding,getting enough sunlight.
How?
In whatever way you can,obviously, because these are my
solutions.
Cause one, I don't like goingout and putting my feet in the
dirt where I don't know like whopooped or peed there.
And two, this weather isdifficult to work around in
certain times of the year.
It's beautiful in the spring orthe summer, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
And the light helps your mitochondria, which is
where your energy powerhouse is,and that makes sense that it
will give you more energy andactually improve your energetic
field as well.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
It gets rough here in the winter time for people.
I had to come up with a planyears ago because I had some
already some knowledge aboutthat.
Like coming in, I knew that Iwas going to have to deal with
that.
So we we got this.
Um, we have the infrared lightas well, and then we have the
vitamin D spurter lamp that weuse.
And then I'll go to the vitaminD uh tanning bed.

(41:20):
Like there, there's a specialvitamin D tanning bed that you
can go to here too, so I try todo that and then get all the
nutrients the vitamin A I loveoysters and so I try to get that
in once a week and the liverhelping with that and copper, so
all those things help.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I saw you made a video on copper.
I've been super down thatrabbit hole and I want to watch
that.
I'm super curious what yourthoughts are on copper.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, I mean copper.
I just talked about that todayactually with my group, my
finally thriving group, and wewere talking about menopause
because you know, everybody inthe group is either in
perimenopause or menopause rightnow.
And so, yeah, it's, it's sointeresting, copper is so
important.
It replaces what you miss whenyou don't get the sun, basically

(42:11):
.
Um it's a nutrient that reallyhelps synthesize um the uh the
enzymes that you get when youget sun exposure, but also, yeah
, and so so it comes from, likeshellfish, the best sources, um
oysters and um those kinds ofthings, uh, I think liver.

(42:32):
I think liver too, but liveralso has vitamin a instead of
oysters.
So, like the, the vitamin a andcopper is so important during
this time of year, so I try toget those in when I can, because
the sun actually gives you alot of that, you know we
actually get.
So I know vitamin d notnecessarily in the way we think

(42:53):
of nutrients, but yeah, vitamind, but also it just helps.
It activates certain enzymes inour body that help the
mitochondria, so it's reallypretty.
But so when you don't getexposed to sunlight so much,
then you have to make sureyou're a little more diligent in
getting those nutrients andthen the red light and vitamin D

(43:17):
through food if you can.
But if you have a light that'seven better.
So, those are the things I tryto.
I really do in the winter timehere, or I go to Hawaii or
Florida.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, I was thinking at some point I might need to
try traveling again during thistime Everybody here usually goes
to Hawaii, but yeah, it's, it'sa thing.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Or Mexico, yeah, but um.
But yeah, it can really affectyour mood, it can affect your
physiology.
People can have joint pain andall kinds of stuff during that
time because of the lack ofsunlight.
So it's just really important.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I forgot how.
I noticed it was because of thesun.
But I always go through mychecklist.
I'm like, if I'm off, okay, isit this, is it this?
I have different tests, but Ialways go through my checklist.
I'm like, if I'm off, okay, isit this, is it this?
Like?
I all have different tests,like the Zyto I can do scans on.
So I'm not exactly sure Imight've muscle tested it
actually, and somehow I figuredit out oh, it's because I'm not
getting enough sun.
So once I stuck myself in thatsauna, oh my God, I was like wow

(44:20):
, I feel so much better.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, cause the warmth is good for your thyroid
too.
It's just like there's so muchthere's infrared in it.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, yeah, infrared panel with it too.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, theinfrared.
Yeah, and the warmth.
I do notice that when I'mfreezing I'm like, all of a
sudden, my energy is not reallygood either, cause I'm you know,
you're using so much energy tojust like try to make.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's why they used todo.
I mean, you know, our ancestorsdid lots of saunas and stuff
like that.
You know cause it's, you know,and people still do that in
other countries, they, they're.
They really do a lot of saunacause it's all, it's detoxifying
, but it's also good for yourthyroid, it's good for your

(45:05):
metabolism in those dark months.
So, um yeah, either, dry saunais a little different, but you
know, infrared is good for whenyou want that light therapy too.
So I think that's amazing.
Well, I wanted to ask about thetuning forks, because we talked
a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Are you still using that with people is oh, yeah,
okay yeah, I have some of themhere, so if people haven't seen
a tuning fork, they look likethis.
Sorry, if you're on the audio,but um yeah, and we, um, when
you being on we.
So the course I took, she hadus, she.
She makes these hot, or she.
I guess she just brands thesehockey pucks that are really

(45:44):
good for activating it.
So when you activate it, canyou hear it?
I can't hear it now For somereason.
I don't know why it doesn'twork on this mic, but I've had a
hard time with doing Zooms andstuff with them.
So basically, it's soundtherapy, just like singing bowls

(46:05):
.
This is another one that peoplemight know, but you can use
tuning forks to tune yourbiofield.
So back to this whole picture.
This is where what we'relooking at.
What I'm thinking about whenI'm working with biofield tuning
, is this, this, this field.
So our body holds stress andtrauma, certain types of
emotions in different areas inour body.
Now, this lady, eileen DamienCusick.

(46:26):
She has a couple of books thatare incredible.
I highly recommend reading them.
Electric Body, electric HealthActually, I have that here too.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, those are great books.
Yeah, oh, my God, so goodYou've read this book.
A different one than she Tunein your human biofilm?
Yes, um, not a different onethan she um tuning your human
biofilm.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yes, yeah, that one, yeah, um.
So that was her first book andthen the one I just showed you
is her second one, um, which Ithink goes into a little bit
more detail.
But anyways, basically we havethis field and, depending on
where you had certain types ofstress and trauma that the
body's held, um, or the biofield, it.
We have this timeline of ourlife that starts at the edge of
the field and then you walk intoit toward your.

(47:11):
This is more of your currentstate.
It's closer to your body.
So, depending on where thestress and trauma is held,
that's where, when you get intothe field with the tunuporks,
it'll get really dense andsticky.
So what's happening is we need ahealthy balance of light.
So bio photons are light thebody produces.
We need a healthy balance inour body and in our energetic
field.
Obviously, most people can'tsee this, unless your third eye

(47:33):
is super healthy or something, Iguess.
But um, but you could feel itwhen you use the forks.
So I'll bang the forks and I doall this remotely, more remote.
I'm starting to see some peoplein person now.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Actually but how'd you do that remotely?
Um, you just say cause do you?
You don't, do you do it with adifferent microphone or
something, or you or they feelit right now I do it all.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
No, I don't do it on zoom, I do it Um my other
emotional work I'll do on.
I do mostly everything on zoom,but this because of the sound.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
I do it on Instagram messenger or Facebook messenger,
so for some reason you can hearit well there, but you can't
hear it.
Wow, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah yeah, I had to go through the ringer of like
trying to figure all these.
I was like different mics, likeall kinds of how come it
doesn't work on zoom Um anyways.
So you could do it like anyother energetic therapies you
could do, without someonelistening to.
But it is nice to hear thesounds and I encourage people to

(48:33):
deep breathe throughout it, soyou're getting all that
oxygenation and movement in thatway as well.
So we're working with theelectromagnetic part of our
being, where we're made ofelectricity.
So yeah.
And when it gets stagnant incertain areas, that's where
things can manifest.
So if you had like the sacralchakra is a couple inches below

(48:56):
your belly button, if you hadstress and trauma so on this
side of the field it tends to beso the right side tends to have
guilt and shame.
So if you have a lot of guiltand shame, this could even be
like religiously instilled andyou know, culturally it's not
necessarily again, something webrought on.
It could be generations passeddown, it can be ancestral.

(49:18):
We pass down our DNA and wepass down frequencies with it,
we.
If you have something like the,the sacral chakra is off.
Because of that, you could havean issue in that area.
So you might have lower GIproblems or you might have your
ovary.
If you're a woman, your ovariesor your uterus could have
issues if it's on the back.

(49:40):
So the back is more aboutreceiving.
So in the sacral area it'sreceiving money, intimacy and
it's all about yourrelationships, and you might
have lower back problems.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, I was going to say lower back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know Like who doesn't have alower back problem?
So many people.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
My goodness and money issues or relationship issues.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yes, oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I would have thought all of that was related.
Right, yeah, but I did a lot ofthat.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
That's wonderful.
Well, you know, I'm going totry something real quick.
Try it again, I'm going to doOkay.
So there's this thing on zoom,where you can turn your original
sound on.
It's for musicians.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I use it with my voice coach.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
I'm going to see if I can hear it now, if you want to
try it again.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Noise suppression is disabled.
Okay, can you hear that?
You can hear it.
Oh, so maybe it is both.
Okay, turn yours off now See ifyou can hear it.
Okay, go ahead, you can stillhear it.
But yeah, it's amazing stuff.

(50:43):
We're working with chakras whenwe're doing it and in general I
mean you can.
I've learned differenttechniques through the program
that you can tune the organs andglands, for example, and as a
practitioner I my eyes were likewhoa your liver and gallbladder
, for example.
If you are doing a cleanse, it'ssuper important to make sure
those are moving and so youmight be taking, for example, if
you are doing a cleanse, it'ssuper important to make sure

(51:05):
those are moving, and so youmight be taking.
You know certain supplementslike milk, thistle, glutathione,
tudka, things like that to getthe liver and gallbladder moving
.
But if you have a bunch ofanger in your liver or
resentment in your gallbladder,you could still have issues like
afterwards and that could bepart of the parasite problems
that you have anger andresentment in your liver and

(51:27):
gallbladder.
So you can go in and adjust thefrequency of the um, the organ
and gland, and so that's one ofthe things on muscle tests, for
I had kind of mentioned this inthe beginning of what?
How stressed are thesedifferent organs and glands?
Because your body's not goingto function correctly if you're
out of tune in those areas.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Well, they generally feel once that emotion releases
with the tuning forks, will theygenerally feel that emotion and
it just kind of goes through,or does it just dissipate from
your experience?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
It's different for different people.
Yeah, some people it will.
They'll just feel super A lotof people.
Because I'll ask them it can bekind of like a guided
meditation book and it can bedifferent for every session too,
but it tends to be kind of aguided meditation plus like

(52:24):
conversation.
At some point I'll ask themhow're feeling?
Cause a lot of this is reallybecoming embodied and noticing
what is paying attention, like alot of times we're so
disconnected from our body wedon't even know that we have a
pain somewhere and all of asudden it's a really big pain
and there's a cancer.

(52:47):
So as we're doing this, I'masking people how they're
feeling, or emotions that arecoming up, even visions they
might be having, and sometimeslike we'll be tuning the liver,
for example, and they're like oh, I'm starting to feel this
anger.
All right, let's breathe.
It's coming up, yeah right, andwhat we think about too can

(53:07):
also.
It will also create a chemicaland vibrational reaction in our
body too.
So I'll I'll sometimes kind ofguide them to visualize that
anger coming out of their liveror whatever it is that we're
working on.
A lot of times I'll I'llencourage them to see it being
like going down.
We call this a central channel,where our, our, our main
chakras are.
We call this a central channelwhere our, um, our, our main

(53:27):
chakras are, and I'll have themjust imagine going down their
central channel, being groundedinto the earth.
So it's almost like the earthis pulling it out like a magnet,
um.
So that tends to be a goodvisualization.
Or or maybe I'll have themvisualize even their digestive
tract, kind of like oh yeah withit.
Um, it's just a lot of, it'svery intuitive work.
I I mean, we're muscle testing,we're getting in the field,
we're feeling things.
So it's, you know, almost likescientific in that way.

(53:49):
But, um, I just kind of go withwhat I feel like I'm, you know,
being led by God to speak or,you know, talk about with them.
Um, sometimes too, like I lovehow you're very much into that
whole idea of like living, your,your vision, like who are you,
your purpose, and so a lot oftimes, stuff like that will come

(54:09):
up too.
It's like people, because a lotof times I think people are
just in a rut, they're just,they're just trying to survive,
right, and once you really havethem stop so that they can try
to heal, then it's like well,why am I doing all this?
You know, like what?
What do I really?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
you know, yeah, the truth comes in really quick,
right?
It's just like whoa wait aminute, like kind of takes them
out of that um that program in away.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
So I might kind of open discussion up more, like
once we kind of start seeingwhat's.
What's it there, um, I'm, Imight start kind of guiding them
, you know, um, through deepbreathing and and like I'll see
these things, you know, likeintuitively too, um, and I might
just speak them out, or I'llhave them do exercises where

(54:58):
I'll, um, I'll encourage them tovisualize.
You know, what would your lifebe like if you were not stressed
, or I don't know.
I'm not thinking of exactlywhat it would be until the
moment, but right, yeah, yeah.
So this just goes back to sowe're using sound to address
different areas in the bio field, like you could literally leave

(55:20):
it at that.
You don't need to do all thisextra talking and stuff.
Like I've done some sessionstoo where it's just that cause
like they're super burnt out,it's like they just need to
relax, yeah.
But I think a lot of people doneed to kind of express
themselves verbally sometimestoo, and when you even call out
something out, like it can move.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, it's not as hard aspeople think Right.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah All, sometimes when I get in a certain area,
I'll even muscle test it.
We weren't taught this in thisprogram, but just because I've
done other things, I've learnedabout muscle testing ages, so
I'll muscle test the age Seemslike at 36, there was something
related to this emotion we'retalking about and I can't tell

(56:00):
you how many times you're like,oh my God, that's when this
thing happened, and so we'llkind of unpack that a little bit
and harmonize it through, and Ican't tell you how much better
people feel when they deal withthis stuff on a frequency level.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
It's so crazy yeah that makes so much sense because
you don't have to hold itanymore right, you just let it
go and there's something reallyfreeing, liberating, but also
just a huge relief about that.
I've also seen in myself andothers.
So this is so beautiful.
Thank you so much for sharingeverything you do, and it just

(56:35):
sounds amazing.
I want to schedule a sessionwith you.
It just sounds reallyincredible.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
When I do it in person, I do all the extra bells
and whistles.
I'm like here's some oils,here's some light therapy.
Perfect, I love it.
I love it.
Nice rainbow chakra mat.
So there's like all thesecrystals yeah, it's like one big
supercharged um frequencysession.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Oh, that sounds.
That sounds divine.
Oh man, thank you, I will dothat.
I'll get with you on that.
I would love for you just toleave everybody with how to get
in touch with you.
You're in Portland, Oregon, andthey can also work with you
online.
It sounds like too.
So whatever you want to shareabout your offerings.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
And I actually mostly work with everyone virtually.
It's only a new thing that I'veI've started seeing some people
in person.
Well, okay, I shouldn't sayanything.
I used to have a practicebefore.
Uh, I moved here in person,then I was like I want to go
online, and then 2020 happenedto kind of push everyone like we
have to now.
Okay yeah right but um, yeah,and, and I'm in Washington, much

(57:47):
on the other side of the river,but yeah.
So if you just go to the well,the before I say too fast the
wellness trinitycom, you'll seemy services, the link to my
store.
We also have a CBD site as well.
Well, too, that's linked inthere.
Um, I have um links to all.

(58:08):
Like I have different freebiofiltrini sessions and some
articles and stuff on there too.
Um, you can find the um.
I have a podcast on youtube andall the podcast platforms too.
Um and uh, you can have somefree sessions there and kind of
get an idea of what, whatthey're like and other things
that we talk about too.
So Wonderful.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Thank you, dr Jacqueline.
It was amazing to see you againand I am excited to stay
connected and and do a sessionwith you and thank you and we'll
leave, and I'll leave all thelinks in the show notes If
you're.
Thank you and we'll leave andI'll leave all the links in the
show notes If you're.
Whether you're listening tothis on the audio version or the
YouTube version, all of DrJacqueline's links will be in

(58:51):
there for you guys to to reachout to her.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Thank you, too, for having us Always so nice to
connect with you.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Same here is your greatest work of art, and it all
relates back to thesynchronicities you

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