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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Integrate
Yourself, everybody.
I'm your host, alison Pillow,and you can find me at
alisonpillowcom andfinallythrivingprogramcom.
You can find my book on Amazonand my audio book there as well.
Today, I'm here with a veryspecial guest, kyle Bunnell.
Kyle inspires the nextgeneration of leaders to
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experience freedom, expansionand transformation through
prayer, self-discovery andteaching about life, health and
spirituality.
He currently serves as aninspirational speaker and
spiritual life coach tosystematically help individuals
to discover their genius insideand how they can tangibly
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express it in service to agreater whole.
He also provides daily minutemotivation videos through his
website, kylebunnellcom.
Thank you, kyle, for coming on.
It's such a pleasure to haveyou on and I'm really excited
about what we're going to talkabout today.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, I just want to
extend my gratitude and
appreciation to you, allison,for having me on here, and I am
really grateful and excited forall of you listeners out there,
because if I can inspire you tolook within yourself, to
remember the genius that you areand how you can bring it out in
service to the greater wholearound you, that'll just touch
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me today and I know that it willembark you on a path to
reaching your highest potential.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Thank you, kyle.
So I would really love for youto share the story that you
shared with me when we firsttalked about how you've gotten
to this point in your life, whatyou've struggled with and how
you've been able to take thatinto your life and really use it
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as momentum to do what you'redoing now.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Absolutely, Allison.
I'd be glad to dive in andshare for you and for the
listeners as well.
But before I begin, have youever had the opportunity to hold
a glass jar?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Hold a glass jar.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes, yeah, like this
without the rubber over it.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh right.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Have you ever dropped
a glass jar?
Do you know what would happenif you dropped a glass jar?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, it would break.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It would fall to the
ground, it would break, it would
shatter.
Now, if I was to throw a glassjar through this computer to you
in cyber world, I would trustyou to catch it.
I would trust you to catch itbefore it fell, it broke and it
shattered.
In other words, I would havefaith in your abilities to catch
.
It broke and it shattered.
In other words, I would havefaith in your abilities to catch
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it.
Now, to all of you listenersout there, do you have faith in
life?
Do you have faith that lifewill catch you before you fall,
before you break, before youshatter?
And contemplate deeply on that?
Because my life is a testamentto that question.
I've always felt like I'm aboutto fall, I'm about to break,
I'm about to break, I'm about toshatter.
But during each and every oneof those experiences, life has
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always caught me and hasprovided me a greater platform
than anything I could haveimagined beforehand.
So I preface my story with that, and my story begins as it
would for any little boy.
I wanted to grow up and playprofessional basketball.
I remember it greatly.
I was watching the 2008National NCAA Tournament and
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there's this little player namedStephen Curry Not sure if any
of you guys have heard of him, Ithink.
Last I checked in I think hewas a pretty big superstar right
now, but this is when he wasfirst getting on the mat and he
was still in college.
Watching him play reminded meof the way I played just with
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that joy, that energy, skippingup and down the floor.
He had a face like a baby.
But when I watched him play heinspired me and from that moment
on I decided I was going tobecome a professional basketball
player, that I could ignite thesame inspiration in others.
And so it's kind of like it wassaid it was going to be done.
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I was guaranteed to become aprofessional basketball player
and I started to chase thatdream.
But a few years go down the roadand, as I'm in middle school so
this is about 13 years old Istopped growing for some reason,
like all my friends, hit theirgrowth spurt, and I am not only
a late bloomer, but my hormonesdon't kick in to where I can
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grow.
So me and my family started totravel across the country to
many endocrinologist specialiststo see what was wrong.
Why is Kyle not growing?
Why are his friends allexperiencing his growth spurt,
but Kyle just can't grow, and westumped them all.
Nobody understood what wasgoing on with me, why I couldn't
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grow.
Meanwhile, not growing wheneverybody else is growing makes
playing basketball extremelydifficult, and I felt like I was
losing my edge.
And so I took it in my ownhands to be the best player that
I could be, because if Icouldn't play at this young
level, there is no way that Icould play professional
basketball.
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And if there is no way that Icould play professional
basketball, I thought that therewas no way to inspire other
people the way I had alwaysaspired to, and so, when I was
13 years old, I created my owntraining program.
I was in the weight roomlifting weights, I was outside
doing plyometrics, I was running, I was doing basketball drills
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for six hours a day, I had anutrition plan, I had this
mindset recovery plan, and I wasrunning.
I was doing basketball drillsfor six hours a day.
I had a nutrition plan, I hadthis mindset recovery plan, and
I was doing all of this as alittle child.
But eventually I burned myselfout to the point where I
couldn't even eat for an entireweek because I was bedridden and
I was sick and I was throwingup.
So my family, worried about meactually becoming dehydrated,
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rushed me to the local emergencyroom and when they checked my
vitals, my heartbeat was in the20s.
It was like 27, 28, which, justto put things into perspective,
it should have probably beenabout 80.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah that's low,
that's very low.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah.
And the emergency room peoplewere like we got to get this guy
to you know a more intensivecare unit, like this guy's about
to die.
And you know we're all like no,I'm not Just give me some some
IV fluids so that I can becomerehydrated.
Huge journey for me goingacross the country now, not only
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for my endocrinology issues butalso for an assortment of
digestive issues.
So we go to the hospital, westay down there for a week
trying to understand why is Kyleso sick?
Why can't he eat any food?
And they performed a gamma oftests on me and once again,
everybody was stumped.
So what?
They essentially diagnosed meas is just somebody that needs
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to get fattened up so that hecan regain his energy levels, so
that he can his hormones cankick in so that he can grow.
So we're going to give you aprescription to be a couch
potato.
Take me out of all activitiesI'm, essentially, whenever I'm
home, I'm supposed to play videogames, I'm supposed to sit on
the couch and eat as highcalorie foods as I can.
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And, just like I said, aprescription to be a couch
potato.
Now, there are few challengeswith this.
During my situation, like Isaid, I could like not hold any
food down, and when you got topound the calories and not move,
when you can't really eat, thatmakes things challenging.
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So for the next year or so theyfed me through a feeding tube.
They stuck a tube up through mynose that went into the belly,
my belly, and I was attached tothis.
It almost looked like an IV.
It was a pole with this bagthat they had some concoction of
formula in it and that's how Iwas fed through a year and that
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was like a supplement to all theother food I was trying to
pound.
Now, like I said, since it wastough to keep food down, this
was another huge challenge forme that went along for like the
next five years in my life is mybody had developed a reflux and
we call it regurgitation orrumination, where I would eat
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food and it would come back up.
I would throw it up and thedoctor said, well, you got to
swallow that, like you got tohold it in your mouth and
swallow it.
So I would have like second orthirds for every bite.
It would throw up inside andI'd swallow it.
So imagine doing that afterevery bite you take,
additionally, being attached tothis IV tube while you're
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walking around in middle schooland high school and all of that.
So that's essentially what theysaid you know, use this eating
this eating style.
Be as lazy as you can, andyou're going to eventually
thrive.
Within a month or two.
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However, that was not the case.
Within the next month or two, Ididn't gain weight.
My issues, if you want to callthem that, only escalated, and
so they just kept giving me moremedicines.
Take Prilosec, take Zantac,take this, take that.
Let's all combine them togetherand make our own little science
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experiment.
And so here I am, this little13-year-old boy going through
all of this.
And so here I am, this little13-year-old boy going through
all of this, while travelingacross from sea to shining sea,
to all the greatest specialists,and nobody understood what was
going on.
And these are my high schoolyears, when all my friends are
hanging out together, going tofootball games.
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They get to play on thefootball field, they get to play
on the basketball court, and Iam watching, watching my dream
wash away from me, watching asI'm going through all of these
challenges.
And I remember very clearly oneday I was like man.
I'm supposed to be out there,I'm supposed to be thriving, I
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am supposed to be inspiringother people.
But here I am, sitting alone,connected to this thing through
a long tube, and I don't have aplatform to inspire others and
there was this huge sense insideme and it was almost like God
was speaking to me.
It's like this is onlyproviding you a greater platform
so you can be of moreinspiration in the future.
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And I remember when I connectedto that I was like, wow, I had
never thought of that in thisway, so fast forward a couple of
years.
We still continue to go fromdoctor to doctor.
We started to go a little biteasier on how much I was being
force fed.
I was able to get back intosports and I continued to
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actually considering everythingI was going through.
I was still able to remaincompetitive and I was able to
live as normal of a life aspossible.
Then, when I was a junior inhigh school, I was able to do a
lot of things.
I was making the transition tovarsity basketball and you know
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I was going up against guys thatwere like a foot and a half
taller and a hundred poundsheavier than me.
And I remember the first fewgames went by and my coach
wasn't playing me as much as Ihad wanted and I approached him
during our mid season break andI was like, hey, coach, I can
shoot better than anybody on ourteam.
I can dribble better thananybody on our team.
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I am beating all our teammatesin these, in our scrimmages and
practices.
Why am I not getting moreplaying time?
And he told me Kyle, you justlook too small.
I can't trust you.
And when he said that, I meanhe went on to explain himself,
but, being a junior in highschool, once that went,
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everything else went in one earand out the other ear and it's
like here I go again.
Once again, I got back on thecourt so I could continue to
inspire people again, like I hadonce wanted to, but now that
door is being closed, and soonce again, I determined myself
to take matters into my ownhands.
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Up my training, two to three, X,and once again, guess what
happened?
I got extremely sick, couldn'thold anything down for a week,
and the whole process continued.
And we had essentially thistimes two, and it was a much
harder hit, Except this time,instead of pumping me with
fluids, we actually went out tothis hospital in California,
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near Stanford University, PaloAlto area, and they were asking
me what my diet was like andeverything.
It's like oh, I hooked up tothis feeding tube, I'm taking
all these extra supplements, andthey're like do you not eat
real food?
Like what?
Like you're eating all thesechemicals.
And so that's when I learnedthe value and the importance of
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not only getting calories sothat you have enough energy, but
actually having whole food.
And so we removed the tube, weremoved all the supplements I
was taking and I was eatingactual food.
And guess what?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I started to feel
better.
Go figure right.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Exactly Like who
would have thunk it, and so I
mean it didn't help me grow oranything like that.
But finally I was able to nothave such bad digestive issues
Such bad digestive issues and soI continued that eating plan
for a few years.
I ended up graduating highschool, didn't play college
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basketball.
That dream, I saw, went on thewayside.
But I started to coach.
I started to get into pushingmyself over, exerting myself,
and maybe I can empower theseplayers to pursue their dreams.
And throughout college, as Iwas doing this, it felt very
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fulfilling.
And so there's this one timewhen I was about to be a senior,
it's like that longing for thatdream to play on the court once
more started to kick in onceagain, and it's like I'm telling
all of my players that I'mcoaching.
You can become anything youwant.
You can truly live your dreams.
But there's a story gap betweenwhat I was preaching and what
was actually my life experience,because I never played college
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basketball.
So I decided I was going towalk on.
So I started training reallyhard once again, but this time
in a smarter way than I hadbefore.
But eventually, when I wastraining, I got injured.
And when I got injured.
I remember I was squatting andI was at the bottom, and then I,
when I was at the bottom of thesquat, there's this huge pain
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in my back and I mustered up theenergy to get it back on the
bar.
But once I finished the set,there was this huge visceral
fear that tingled every singlecell in my body and I realized
my basketball dreams were over.
Like now, I probably wouldn'teven be able to move because of
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how severe the back injury was.
At least I wasn't able toexercise for a while.
My basketball playing days wereover, my dream was over and I
went through this whole kind ofexistential crisis right there.
And what I decided to do a verywise move on my decision, I
will say, hinted with a littlebit of sarcasm here I decided
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that, well, I'm in a huge lifetransition.
I need some clarity as to whatI'm going to do next.
I'm going to start fasting,like I'm going to remove all my
food, so that I can have someclarity of mind because of my
Bible study that, as a part of,we were talking about fasting.
This is right when intermittentfasting started to become a
huge craze in the health andfitness world, it's like that's
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what I'm going to do, and I kidyou not.
Within a few months, I went froma tiny yet super strong and
athletic kid who was trying towalk onto his college basketball
team, so looking like I was onmy last days of a concentration
camp.
I went from 125 pounds of puremuscle to underneath a hundred
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pounds.
I went from being able to do 25pull-ups to not even being able
to do one in just a matter ofmonths and during this time
there reached a point where,well, first I realized, oh, I
got to start eating, I got tostop fasting there was that part
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.
But I was still coaching and ittook every ounce of my energy
to roll out of bed during themorning so that I could inspire
people.
Than trying to connect with God, than trying to connect with
all my players and seeing howI'm uplifting them at practice.
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That got me enough energy toget downstairs and have some
breakfast.
Then I'd have to do that againto get out to my car, to go to
my college classes, theneventually to go into practice,
then eventually to come backhome and get all my homework
done.
And I was freezing all the timewhen I was in the gym coaching
my players.
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You know they're all in t-shirtand shorts and sweating.
I have compression tights on,I've got shorts, sweatpants,
long underwear, long sleeveshirt, sweater, and I was still
freezing.
My hands were cracked to thepoint where I couldn't even peel
an orange because I had suchbad skin problems.
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Meanwhile, my digestive issuesstarted to kick in again and I
remember there was this one timein college where I was so weak
that when I got up to leave ourclass after class was over, I
collapsed and I just fellstraight to the ground.
My professor had to take meover to the ER and I was just
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that depleted on energy.
And I remember when I wassitting there in the ER, once
again it's like shoot.
Like how am I going to inspirepeople now?
Like, how can I inspire?
I can't even go to practice.
How am I going to inspirepeople now?
Like, how can I inspire?
I can't even go to practice.
How am I going to inspire my,my players and my basketball
dreams went away.
Now my coaching dreams seemlike they're going away.
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My health has gone away threetimes now.
How can I inspire others?
And once again, when I laythere on that hospital bed, it
felt like God was talking to meagain, kyle.
This is only providing you alarger platform to be of greater
inspiration to people, and thatgave me once again just enough
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energy to keep moving on.
Luckily, this happened rightbefore the pandemic.
So then the pandemic happened.
I was able to get some time torecover.
I had a lot of greatopportunities after college, but
all of those got canceledbecause of the pandemic.
And then it's like all right,what do I do now?
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I just graduated college.
I have degrees in exercisescience and psychology.
I was.
I had opportunities to workwith some professional football
and basketball teams with mystrength and conditioning
knowledge, but now I don't knowwhat to do because the world is
put on hold.
And during this time, like Isaid, I was continuing to
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improve my health and recovery.
I was starting to get strongeragain, I was getting more
energized and I also got intothe Czech curriculum, that
holistic health and wellnesswhich you are very aware of.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I want to know, Kyle,
what led you to the Czech
Institute, Because not manypeople really go there.
It's like it takes.
Usually something happens orsomething special to that leads
you to that yeah, so this is avery interesting story.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So actually I was.
There was this basketball forumthat I was a part of and they
had this recommended book listand one of the books was how to
eat, move and be healthy and itwas by Paul Cech, and during
this time I I would listen todifferent podcasts while I was
working out and it's like huh,I'm gonna check this Paul, check
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guy out.
And so I'd listened to hisYouTube videos, his old YouTube
videos, while I was working out,and at first like oh, this guy
is kind of interesting.
Like he's not talking aboutmacromolecules, he's listening
to his soul.
This is like some kind ofsquirrely dude, like what's up
with him.
Then he started talking aboutdifferent.
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I started to listen to some ofhis talks and he had some
differing views on God than Ihad ever heard of before.
And it's like I'm going to Idon't trust this guy's view on
God so much.
This isn't the Christian God Iwas grown up to believe, so I'm
going to just turn this guy off.
So for the next few years I hadnothing to do with anything
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Czech related.
But during this last bout, whenI was going through this
medical condition or when I likecollapsed in college and
everything.
There is this deep longing toread that book.
So I decided to read that bookagain and he had some case
studies in how to eat, move andbe healthy where people had all
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of these mysterious medicalchallenges and they had never
cured them until they started towork with Paul and it's like
huh, I have all these mysteriousmedical issues.
Nobody has ever been able tohelp out with me.
So what if I do some?
What if I pursue this path andsee if maybe the check path can
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help me to my complete healthand wellness?
And I remember I probablyreached out in the best way I
could.
I responded to one of hisYouTube videos telling with a
super long description ofeverything I had gone through,
hoping somebody would help meout.
And I got a reply take applecider vinegar, it'll really help
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with your digestion andeverything.
There were a few comments likethat and then someone's like no,
he's way too.
He's way too fiery in summer.
Apple cider vinegar will onlyheat him up more.
Do zone exercises get some yinin it?
And it's like oh gee, this isprobably not the best way to go
about it.
But eventually Penny actuallyreplied to one of my to one of
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my long YouTube replies andPenny got me hooked up with
actually I probably should askhis permission before but
somebody that was in Ontario,and so I started to work with
him for a while and heeventually got me connected with
another Czech practitioner aswell.
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So that's how I got into it and, as I saw my health continue to
grow and how it was more of awell-rounded approach and more
aligned with what I felt inside.
It's like I want to, since I'mdoing nothing right now, since I
just graduated and the world'sput on hold.
Let me see if I can use this inmy coaching career.
So that's a kind of a I gotassociated with it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I have another
follow-up question with that too
, because, as you've beentalking about all these health
issues and you know thesechallenges you've had over the
years and, and from myexperience, these health
challenges they're just they're,they're pain points that our
body is bringing up for us topay attention to something,
probably on a deeper level,either energetically or, as well
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, spiritually and it sounds likeyou're very much into
spirituality.
Were you able to connect thedots there with what was
happening on a deeper level andmanifesting physically in your
life?
Were you able to find a patternor get any insight on that?
What was happening spirituallyfor you?
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And, if you did, were you ableto resolve it?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So that is another
very interesting correlation.
Interesting correlation Rightbefore my family noticed that I
had stopped growing.
I remember there was one daythat I saw my parents fight for
the first time.
They get in an argument andthis little 13-year-old kid's
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like I've never seen mommy anddaddy fight before.
Gee, we're going to get adivorce, like what's going to
happen to me.
And so I did what any other 13year old boy would do he picked
up his Bible.
It's a fine sauce, like God.
I don't know why, but I'm goingto read this Bible.
Gee, what do I even read?
I don't know.
I'm going to read Genesis 1-1and go from there.
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And so I started to read it and, you know, after 30 minutes of
reading, I felt a sense of calmand a sense of peace, probably
because I waited 30 minutes forthe emotions to settle.
But I remember, after I didthat and I experienced that calm
, I committed myself to readingthe Bible from one end to the
other and, like I said, rightafter that, I noticed I stopped
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growing and that was thebeginning of my medical issues.
Fast forward to the second timeI had my extreme health crisis.
Right before that happened, Ihad committed to starting a new
Bible reading plan where I wasgoing to finish it in a year.
I was going to take myself-study and amp it up a notch
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.
Once I amped it up a notch,another huge series of health
issues went on, and I rememberthere's this one time it's like
God, why do I even read thisthing?
Like every time I do it?
I just like get into moretrouble in life, like you know
what's the point.
And then, before the third onehappened, I started to journal
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after what I would read everyday and my journal started to
get so deep and I started tohave my own insights and
intuitions that were differentthan anything I'd been taught in
church, in Sunday school, byother people.
And it's like I don't think Godis somebody that judges us for
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our sins.
I don't think Jesus died on thecross because I'm a murderer
and have done sins and thereforethis guy had to die because of
me.
Like, actually, is there anaspect of me that is God?
And once I had theserealizations, I started to
approach different faith people,different Christians that I
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looked up to in my life, andthey were like oh gee, like you
are going way out, you'restepping way outside of your box
, like may I lay my hands on youand pray for you, that the
devil's not taking over you, andlike stuff like that.
And so I repressed all of that.
I repressed all of theintuitions and feedbacks that I
started to have during my ownjournaling and right after I
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began.
That is when I injured myselfduring training.
And so part of that existentialcrisis is I can't follow my
dream, can't play basketball,can't work out, don't have that
platform to inspire people.
I can't follow my dream, can'tplay basketball, can't work out,
don't have that platform toinspire people.
Now I don't even know who I amor what I believe, because what
something deeper is telling meis true is very contradictory to
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what everybody else is saying,and everybody else is saying
that I'm lost, and so every timeI had one of these major health
setbacks, it was preceded by avery I don't want to say
spiritual awakening, becausethat takes it way out of context
, but insights, or a next stepon my spiritual path, so to
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speak.
And what I realized.
Now, looking back at it, Idon't even consider these
medical challenges or issues aswhat most people would consider
sickness.
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I believe it is spirit's way ofshowing me who and what I truly
am.
And if we accept spirit, weaccept every part of it, we
accept the light, we accept thedark.
The dark needs to exist so thatwe can see the light.
And if we can change ourperspective and welcome in the
dark, so welcome in the sickness, welcome this disease we see
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that underneath the rock ofdarkness there lies a beautiful
soil of light, and so, if I canlook at my dis-ease in that
light or in that perspective, asto where this is only
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propelling me on my platform toremember the genius inside of me
, to remember the truth I am Now, it's providing me a much
grander platform to be able torelate with others, to be able
to help people to discover theirunique truth, which could be
completely in accordance withwhat I say, or it can be
completely against what I say.
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But, as long as you find yourlife, and so that has enabled me
to look at my dis-eases in awhole different lens, that it is
all a beautiful divineinterplay of God guiding me to
my highest potential, once againincorporating that faith
component, life is orchestratingitself to guide me to my
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highest potential.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
That's beautiful and
yes, and it's.
I just felt that in myself.
The truth that you're sharingbecause it is truth, it's about
acceptance, it's about acceptingyourself, accepting the world
for it is.
This doesn't mean we give up,it doesn't mean we condone it,
we just accept it.
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And that's a neutral,nonjudgmental place, and when
you're in that place, there's noemotional charge around it so
you can actually accept it.
And when you can accept it,there's no resistance in your
life.
And oftentimes, when we'regoing through pain or sickness,
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our body's showing us thatresistance.
It's showing up in a physicalform.
So I love how you shared that,kyle, and I think this is how
you're going to inspire people,is you're going to teach them
about acceptance?
Because, oh my God, did youhave to accept a lot in your
life so much?
That is incredible.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, Absolutely, and
I agree 100%.
It's like nothing.
Any type of input is simplythat.
It's our perception of theinput that views it as good or
bad.
Think of the sun right now.
It's like hey, it's sunny outin Michigan, that is glorious,
(31:40):
Everybody's out sunbathing,because we've had six months of
clouds and cold.
So it's like man, sun, sunshine, good like hallelujah.
What about in the heat ofsummer?
Like in the desert, it's likegee, why is it sunny out?
Where are the clouds?
Like sun bad, like go away.
It's the same stimulus, thesame input.
(32:02):
It's simply our perception.
So, if we can allow ourselvesto receive everything because
it's all energy information thatis being downloaded into our
nervous system to teach ussomething, to help us to prepare
for something, help us toextend to that next level, and
(32:24):
if we are open to that, we getto see.
All right, what is this inputtelling us?
And do I want to keep this gemor do I want to remove this gem
because it just doesn't feelright right now?
So you have the power to choose.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yes, I love that.
I love that.
That's so beautiful, yeah, andthe perception aspect of it.
It is so true.
I mean we can sit and worry andcomplain about things, right,
or we can see the beauty in itor, you know, feel the
(33:02):
frustration, feel the emotionsthat we're resisting, and then
let that, you know, then let itgo Like, just feel it and then
get into the neutral zone withit.
So, but, but yes, we, we resistthrough complaining and
worrying, I think, a lot oftimes too or or not accepting,
like you just the example youjust gave about the sun like I'm
(33:25):
not accepting right now thatthe sun is too hot and there's
no clouds coming right.
Why isn't that happening?
That's a great example.
So we can look at many examplesof that in our life and I think
that is.
It sounds like it's been yourlesson, kyle, to learn the
(33:45):
lesson of self-acceptance, andthat is the highest level, one
of the highest levels that manyspiritual people don't get to,
because there's such a highlevel of judgment in the
spiritual community that theynever get to that place of full
acceptance with themselves andthe outside world, you know, and
(34:07):
other people, and so thatreally keeps you in that lower
frequency.
It keeps you in a state ofresistance to what is happening.
You know what is real right now.
How am I really feeling?
Am I being honest with myselfabout that, you know?
And so this is just such abeautiful example of to set for
(34:34):
people who think you know.
And again, it's like you'retalking about religion.
There's everything fromreligion to modern spirituality.
There's some kind of ahierarchy that's been set there
that really keeps people fromgrowing.
You know we're talking aboutgrowing too, right, and so uh,
(34:55):
yeah, and so if we can just dothe things that you're that you
know, kind of just learn fromyour lessons, kyle, about
self-acceptance, because I meanyou had, I mean you had a choice
, right, you had many choicesthere and you kept choosing.
It sounds like you keptchoosing you through the
(35:16):
journaling, through justconstantly checking in and
asking God like what, okay, what?
Now you know?
And so I think that's somethingthat we can all really learn
from is to just to start, keepcoming home to yourself, keep
coming in and growing and justhonoring yourself in this
(35:41):
process, because there's goingto be many people along the way
that are not going to be therewith you in that acceptance
place.
So that is just so beautiful.
Thank you, kyle, for sharingthat.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, and I thank you
for sharing that too, because
that sparked another componentof what I believe and I think,
in order for us to be able toaccept ourselves, a component
that precedes that is to beaware of ourselves.
And so many times people startoff on the path of going down.
(36:16):
If you want to say religion,where it's like thou shalt this,
thou shalt not that, or even ifyou want to say the more new
age, light and love,spirituality, where everything
is sunshine and roses many ofthem, on both ends of that coin,
it's all a set of rules andregulations that we need to
(36:38):
follow about how we should feeland what we should or should not
do, and that represses orblocks out the totality of the
experiences that you are having.
And I'm sure you've heard ofthat.
You know the saying if youpoint your finger at the moon
and you're so fixated on thatfinger that's pointing its way
to the moon, you'll neveractually see the moon.
(37:00):
The analogy I like to use is,since I was a basketball player
growing up, is the basketballtraining plan I used to shoot as
a kid just would go out in mydriveway, played whenever I
wanted, and so on, Once Irealized that I needed to up my
game.
I started to follow a trainingplan and I got really good.
(37:20):
Eventually the training planstarted to take over where I was
driving myself into the dirtand not listening to my body.
So that's kind of how religionacts is, once you have that
inspiration to take who you areto the next level, it's healthy
to have that religion, to have aset of guidance.
But then once you follow thereligion to the T, you start to
(37:47):
not see where it's pointing youto and you start to get so
fixated on the structure that itremoves you from listening to
yourself that's actually tryingto guide you to who you want to
be.
So that's how I view religionis it's a necessary stepping
stone, but if you get toofixated on it it holds you back.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Oh, yeah, that's a
great way to put it, kyle.
Yeah, I mean, I agree 100% withthat and oftentimes, with
spirituality, with religion,there's also this common thread,
like what you touched onearlier, as you were sharing as
well, about avoiding our shadows, avoiding our darker sides,
(38:27):
avoiding our pain, because youknow, but, but, like you said,
to to enable, so that you're,are you're enabled, enable I
keep wanting to say enable, sothat you're, are you're enable,
enable I keep wanting to sayenable, so that you're able to
really take in the fullexperience of your life.
You have to feel all of it, youhave to dive deeply into all of
(38:50):
it in order to see the light, to, to, to be one with the light.
You have to.
You have to go into the shadowparts and, um, and and, like
you're saying, be aware of thatCause.
If you cause, from myexperience of, of ignoring or
being in denial about our darkparts, that actually makes them
(39:14):
stronger.
But if we actually look at themand we acknowledge that that
exists within us, then it reallydissipates the energy of it and
then the light that you bringinto that will actually, you
know, transform that energy,because it, you know, just
because we ignore it doesn'tmean it's going to go away,
(39:35):
right.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Absolutely, and I'm
sure you've heard the analogy.
It's like children If a childis coming up and begging you for
something and you try to pushit back, it's only going to come
back stronger.
So I'm exactly spot on withthat.
It's welcoming all aspects ofyou receiving the information
and feedback, because even theseshadow components think that
(39:58):
they're actually doing a goodthing for you.
They're actually trying to lookout for your survival.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, if we are open
to them and be like oh hey,
thank you.
Like, thank you for yourmessage.
I'm grateful for that.
This is who I'm choosing to beLike and this is why it's who I
choose to be, will not only beimportant for our survival, but
it will enable us to thrive andexpand into a new level of
development.
That's when that part is likeoh, thank you for hearing me.
(40:29):
I feel felt, I feel heard, andgee, that's a really good idea.
I want to get on board and Iwant to expand to that next
level of development as well.
Let's go Exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I love that.
That's that's how I see it too,kyle.
And uh, one of my spiritualteachers would say, uh, you know
that, um, oh, I just just holdon a second.
I just totally lost thatthought, darn it.
Um, oh, well, well, it'll comeback.
(41:04):
Um, yeah, yeah, it's, uh, it.
It is so amazing because, like Iused to be, see this, uh, you
know, as you talk about, like wecan get into all of the stuff
around entities and shadow workand all of these things.
But again, it's like there'sall, they're all really aspects
of you and the way I see it,it's like you know, like you're.
(41:25):
You're giving the analogy ofthe child.
Like you know, everything thatexists wants to be acknowledged.
That it exists is kind of how Isee it.
And once you do that, it's like, yeah, and let's do this.
You know, like it just, butit's going to like push your
buttons or, like you said, youmay abandon yourself and that
(41:46):
may need to take over for awhile so you can survive, right,
so life becomes toooverwhelming, so we don't feel
like we can handle it.
So maybe part of our ego, self,steps in to just take over.
Maybe our left brain takes over, you know, and it's just, it's.
It's all like, if we can seethe innocence in our ego, in our
(42:06):
, in our left brain and ourshadow aspects, if we can see
the innocence in that, then Itruly believe that, you know, we
can accept things a little bitbetter for what they are and
acknowledge that hey, yeah, thisis what is.
And then say, okay, I'm readyto take over.
Now, Like you're saying, therecomes a point where you're
(42:33):
letting go of what got you tothat point and then you're
taking the reins because now youcan, you're capable, you're
able to go beyond what youthought was possible before.
And one of my spiritualteachers would say, like, let's
go.
And she still says this let'sgo in our meditations, in our
life, like beyond, go beyondwhat you thought was possible
(42:54):
where you've been, go beyondthat point, because there's
always more right, it's infinite, so it's.
It's really incredible when wecan look at it like from a
bird's eye view, uh, moreholistically, um, without
feeling that shame and the blameand all the weight of those
(43:21):
kinds of projections that we puton ourselves that maybe our ego
relates to.
And you know, we have to healthose parts first before we can
really feel the wholeness of it,all right and bring it into the
whole.
So yeah, yeah, that'sincredible.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Absolutely, and
there's no need for shame.
Once again, that's our own spinon it, that's the way we judge
it ourselves.
But we can also take theperspective that this is great,
this is a great message for meand this is life orchestrating
itself for my highest potential.
(44:07):
I could have looked at, I couldhave gotten all beat down on me
for overtraining myself orgetting sick and see how all of
these things are setting me back, but it's like I let myself get
into that pity party for alittle bit, but then I was
always pulled back out and it'slike, oh, actually, this is just
a new platform to share mymessage on a higher level.
(44:28):
And so, once again, it allcomes back to being willing to
expand your vision so that youcan see everything around you.
Being willing to expand yourvision so that you can see
everything around you and thenconsciously choosing the
perspective that you take on itand how you integrate it to move
you to expand beyond what youthought you were previously
(44:50):
capable of.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, yeah, Wise
words and just such great, you
know, wisdom.
Wisdom is information that'sbeen experienced, and I can feel
that you've experienced this,Kyle.
So, wow, Thank you so much forsharing that.
That's just gold, you know, andI hope that the listeners and
people who are watching canreally connect with what Kyle is
(45:19):
sharing today, because it iseverything in my opinion.
It's like, and if when we canstart to relate to the world
this way and ourselves, andreally come back to what's true
for us and get in alignment withthat, then we can truly start
living our life and really, likeyou said, go beyond what we
(45:42):
even thought was possible, right?
So thank you so much, Kyle.
I would love it if you wouldleave people my audience, give
them just some idea of whatyou're offering and what your
website is, what your socialmedia if you're on social media
(46:03):
and and anything else you wantto share about, about yourself
there.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah, absolutely, and
this goes for everybody.
If you go to my website,kylebannellcom, that is
K-Y-L-E-B-U-N-N-E-L-L-Ecom,you'll notice that you can
download a video, and once youclick on that button and sign up
for the videos, every morning Iwill send you a minute
motivation, which is a dailydose of wisdom and inspiration
(46:31):
that takes less than a minute toconsume.
That way, instead of firstthing looking at your phone in
the morning and you're scrollingthrough junk, it's like here's
a quick 30 seconds of upliftmentthat is going to energize me
for my day.
So if you go to my website, youcan get access to those, and I
would encourage everybody to dothat because it's super simple
to do.
If you would like to go deeper,for one-on-one coaching where,
(46:58):
like I said, I empower you tolook within yourself, to
discover that genius that isinside you and how you can
tangibly express it in serviceto a greater whole and embark
you on your journey to becomingthe person you came to this
earth to be, you can contact meon my website too.
My email is at the bottom.
(47:19):
It's kyle at kylebanelcom.
And finally, I'm also aninspirational speaker.
So if you or your organizationneeds somebody to come in and
speak to your audience aboutfaith and how you can continue
to transcend your perceivedlimitations to become the person
(47:40):
you're meant to be, not becauseof what society tells you who
you need to be, but from whoyour heart tells you to be.
You can also email me, kyle, atkylebanelcom, and I would be
honored, blessed and privilegedto come and speak to you and
your organization.
I'm also on YouTube to come andspeak to you and your
organization.
I'm also on YouTube, instagramand Facebook Just search Kyle,
(48:01):
benal, k-y-l-e, b-u-n-n-e-l-l-e.
Every week I send a weeklyupliftment and then every day, I
am posting content to help youand inspire you as well, and I
think that wraps it up.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Wonderful, and I'll
include all those links in the
show notes as well, foreverybody to go and check your
stuff out.
Kyle, thank you so much forcoming on.
This has been an honor and apleasure for me.
I have really connected deeplywith what you shared today, so
thank you for sharing that withmy audience.
(48:33):
It was just pure gold, so thankyou audience.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
It was just pure gold
.
So thank you.
No, I just want to echo thatappreciation and gratitude back
to you as well as to theaudience, and once again, I want
you to contemplate on thatquestion I asked you at the
beginning Do you have faith inlife?
Do you believe life will catchyou before you fall, break and
shatter?
Do you have faith that life isorchestrating all events for
your highest potential?
And when you can take this viewon life, you realize that you
(49:04):
are indestructible, you areunstoppable and you can carry
yourself with an aura ofconfidence and of
self-acceptance and ofself-awareness that nobody else
is frankly accessing withinthemselves and you can initiate
the process of being who youcame to this world in service to
(49:26):
be.
So I love you all, I'm gratefulfor you all and I appreciate
this opportunity to share.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Thank you, kyle.
We love you too, and I'm sograteful that you came on today.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Thank you so much,
Alison.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Your life is your
greatest work of art, and it all
relates back to the sink inthis space.