February 25, 2025 • 25 mins
Are you curious about spirituality but don't know where to start? In this episode, I share five book recommendations for those wanting to dip their toes into spiritual concepts in a very accessible way. These books offer wisdom whether you're new to spirituality or returning to deepen your understanding.
Books Recommended:
- The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield
- A fictional story exploring the interconnectedness of beings
- Introduces concepts of meaningful coincidences, energy fields, and subtle communication
- Perfect starting point for those new to spiritual concepts
- Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr. Brian Weiss
- Chronicles a psychiatrist's unexpected journey into past life regression therapy
- Shows how past life experiences may influence current challenges
- Bridges traditional psychology with spiritual exploration
- Journey of Souls by Dr. Michael Newton
- Explores the spiritual realm between physical lives
- Documents patterns from thousands of regression therapy sessions
- Offers perspective on how we may choose our life challenges for spiritual growth
- The Awakened Brain by Dr. Lisa Miller
- Combines personal experience with neuroscience research
- Demonstrates how spirituality strengthens brain health
- Shows how spiritual practice protects against depression, addiction, and loneliness
- Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
- Written by a psychiatrist who survived concentration camps
- Explores how finding meaning transforms our experience of suffering
- Emphasizes our power to choose our response to any circumstance
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Tatiana (00:00):
Before we dive into today's episode, I wanted to
(00:02):
share something special withyou.
If you've been listening to ourconversations about integrating
spirituality into therapy, youmight be wondering where to
start with your own clients.
To help you with that, I'vecreated a free guide called 20
Client Conversation Starters,exploring Spirituality.
(00:24):
Ethically, Now these aren't justany random questions.
They're carefully craftedprompts designed to open up
meaningful dialogue whilerespecting ethical boundaries
and diverse beliefs.
With each question, you will begiven a context for when and how
to raise it with a client toprovide you with that extra
(00:47):
guidance.
You can download this guideright now by heading to the link
in the show notes and let meknow how you go with using this
conversation.
Starters, I'd love to hear fromyou.
Now it's today's episode.
Welcome to the Integrated WisdomPodcast.
(01:09):
I'm your host, Tatiana DaSilva.
Join me as we discuss what itmeans to live an integrated life
and explore ways for you tocreate a life filled with
greater meaning, peace andconnection by integrating the
wisdom of spirituality,psychology.
(01:29):
Neuroscience, epigenetics andenergy psychology.
I hope to empower you to createdeeper and more loving
connections with yourself andothers, whilst also paving the
way for humanity at large to bereimagined and inspired to
become the very best version of.
(01:54):
Hello and welcome to theintegrated wisdom podcast.
What I wanted to do is starttoday's episode with just some
recommendations for those fewthat are curious, who.
Oh, I want to do a deeper diveinto some spiritual concepts.
Wants to start understanding alittle bit about what
spirituality has to offer.
(02:14):
On, uh, I guess a tangible on apractical level.
And.
But also want to just startopening themselves up to
exploring these concepts.
Uh, you know, with doesn't feeltoo cold fronting and too out
there.
So I'm waiting to be talkingthrough five book
recommendations.
Two.
I invite you to start exploringthese topics a little bit more
(02:37):
fully.
Some of them you may havealready encountered.
If you're here, obviously you'rereally somewhat curious about
spirituality.
So you may have encountered someof these books.
But if not, you know, theydefinitely would be amazing
books to start with.
But I think they're also thetypes of books that don't hurt
to go back to again and again.
(02:59):
Because you start to uncoverother pearls of wisdom and
things that we would benefitfrom.
With.
You know, going away and comingback with a fresh perspective,
with a little bit more livedexperience, it adds assertion
nuance to that, to the book thatwe may not have received that
first time.
That we were dead.
(03:21):
So let's get going.
The very first book that I'mgoing to suggest.
Is.
Probably.
One of the very, very firstbooks that I read.
That started me thinking aboutmore of the energetics of being
a spiritual being on us.
And it's the Celestine Prophecyit was.
(03:44):
Probably a much more popularbook when I first read it, which
was in the nineties.
Give me my age away.
But I was blown away.
I think it was in the ninetiesnow.
I'm pretty sure it was in thenineties.
But it was blowing away by theconcept It is written as a
fictional story.
But the underlying premise.
Is, it talks about theinterconnectedness of all beings
(04:07):
and it speaks to.
How coincidences aren't alwayscoincidences the concept of
signs.
The concept of fate.
Uh, and the fact that we arespiritual beings here, having a
human experience.
I remember it being a reallylike, Gauging read a lot,
(04:28):
reading that book.
And, you know, talked about theaura that people have and the
aura of objects, which is reallyjust the energy, you know?
Field that we, we have as anextension of our.
So entity.
And how we communicate aboutcertain things in a, an unspoken
(04:50):
way, or we can pick upinformation from our
environments in subtle ways.
So that was the very first bookthat I encountered that started
exploring these topics oropening that concept up for me.
So many years, not fast forward,two years down the track.
Thinking back to, I don't know,2018 thinkers.
(05:11):
When I first encountered thisperson's work.
But there is a.
A biologist.
From the UK.
Called Rupert Sheldrake and hiswhole field of study.
Is around what he termedmorphogenetic fields.
Right.
(05:32):
Morphogenetic fields of these.
Subtle energy field or electricmagnetic fields that hold energy
that allow different beings andspecies to communicate with each
other telepathically.
Or, you know, in subtle ways.
And so science has been startingto demonstrate.
(05:53):
In practical, tangible ways.
Some of those concepts that Iencountered way back, you know,
20 years earlier.
Which is really exciting.
And I think we're seeing moreand more of that.
At the moment with a lot ofscientific studies.
Focusing on demonstrating moresubtle.
(06:13):
Somewhat spiritual elements tolife.
Though they may not be callingit that.
And so the Celestine Prophecy isa book I would really recommend
to just, if you're really likereally new.
You don't really have much of aspiritual.
Leaning.
At all or any understanding orexposure to energy?
(06:35):
I would really highly recommendstarting with that book.
It was a great read.
And it just sucks to open up.
Your mind a little bit to thepossibilities.
So it's the Celestine Prophecyby James Redfield.
I will put a link in the shownotes for you.
Well, those of you who areinterested in having a look at
it.
Then the second book that Iwould recommend, which again is
(06:58):
one of those earlier books thatI encountered that really blew
my mind.
And for me particularly, it wasa very impacting book.
Well, it was a very impactfulbook because it was the first
inkling that I received.
That as a psychologist.
I could allow myself to ventureinto the spiritual.
(07:19):
Discussions and talk about thesethings without.
Compromising my own withoutpotentially compromising my
professional integrity.
And that's many lives, manymasters by Dr.
Brian Weiss.
So for those of you who are notfamiliar with Dr.
Weiss, he is a psychiatrist.
He was quite a super now andrespectable psychiatrist and
(07:42):
atheist.
And he's worked a lot with theuse of hypnotic regression in
his therapeutic work.
And many lives, many masters isthe first of many books that he
has published.
In his work chronicling.
He transitioned from a moretraditional form of regression
(08:02):
therapy to starting to becomealmost like one of the leading
experts in past life regressiontherapy.
A chronic follows his work witha particular client of his way
back in the eighties.
I think it was.
Who had, uh, an intractablephobia.
(08:22):
That no matter what he tried orthe normal, you know, the usual
tools of the trade weren'tworking.
And until he one day during ahypnosis.
Nordic regression.
He instructed this client to goback to the source origin of her
phobia and she spontaneouslywent back to a past life.
(08:43):
So this many lives, many mastersChronicles, that experience, and
some of the insights that he wasthen able to obtain.
Through that work.
That then became his life work.
It's what he does to this day.
Oh, he doesn't do client workanymore, but he's become a
renown and author in this area,he's run a lot of workshops.
(09:05):
Guiding people on how to do pastlife regressions or guiding them
through their own experiences.
Uh, which is remarkable.
I had the opportunity to.
To see him life was when he camehere to Australia.
A few years ago.
And it was remarkableexperience.
So I highly recommend that bookbecause it starts to, again,
(09:29):
explain a little bit about thisconcept of.
There's more to, to.
Our life and what w why we'rehere.
And maybe even some of thestruggles that we have.
That.
May not just be tied to what weare experiencing in this life
that they're there.
Echoes of experiences that wehave had in the past.
(09:51):
And of course, you know, whenyou allow yourself to think
about that more deeply.
You can see that there are lotsof implications for.
The challenges that we encounterin life, whether it be.
Relational challenges withpeople that we have in our
lives, whether it be.
Some mental health challenges,some physical health challenges,
(10:12):
even.
You know, there's a lot ofimplications for how we
perceive.
The struggles.
When you start factoring in thepossibility of.
I guess an overlay or an echo.
Of a previous experience thatwe've had in a previous life.
(10:32):
That might be.
Poking through.
The life that we're livingcurrently.
So it's a book I highlyrecommend again.
I will put it in the show notesfor you.
All his books are great.
But I think in order for you toget the most of the other books,
it really helps to read.
His origin story.
If you like in Many Lives, ManyMasters, to really understand
(10:56):
how he came to do this work and.
Why he became.
His life's focus.
The third book.
That I would highly recommend.
Again, in the realm of.
Exploring our.
soul essence or the fact that wehave previous lives and how we
come to shape the lives that wehave.
(11:18):
And again, another Person whoindirectly gave me permission to
own my psychologist Identity aswell as my spiritual, identity.
And that is Journey of Souls byDr.
Michael Newton.
So Dr.
Michael Newton was apsychologist.
(11:39):
He was a clinical psychologistin the us.
And he also did a lot of workwith regression therapy.
And through experimenting withclients and through his work, he
discovered that some clientswere able to not just recall.
Previous lives, but they couldactually connect with.
The.
(12:00):
The state that we would be in,in between lives.
So, you know, in a spiritualdimension or realm, And through
thousands of client work.
He documented.
A lot of what the spiritualrealm looks like, how it
operates.
(12:21):
Some of the.
I guess.
The ways and we tweak come todecide.
The life that we are going topeople in inter some of the
lessons that we choose toexperience while we're here.
You know, it's a very impactfulbook.
(12:42):
Because it starts to demonstrateor open up.
The conversation for this ideathat.
We're not.
Helpless victims of circumstancethat life yes, can be very
challenging.
But we're not just having thingshappen to us.
That in many cases.
(13:04):
There.
Experiences that we've signed onfor or challenges that we've
signed on for always engineeredfor.
In order for our own or notfacilitate on growth.
And learning as spiritualbeings.
Sorry, his book is he's verymethodically documented a lot of
(13:25):
details from that in-betweenlives state.
Which is, you know, fascinating.
So I would highly recommend thatyou have a read through.
Through that book.
And again, we're putting, I'llput the link in the show notes.
But, you know, just curiously.
There are some researchers atthe university of Virginia that
(13:48):
have spoken about.
They've been chronicling.
Instances or cases of childrenwho spontaneously remember past
lives.
For many decades, you know,Parroting all the way back to
late forties, fifties.
I think it is.
And in a large proportion ofthose cases, even though they
couldn't include that data.
(14:09):
In their analysis because theycouldn't cooperate it.
But a large proportion of thesechildren would also report.
Memories of that in betweenlives state.
Uh, which I think is prettyfascinating, right?
Because you have the, you know,you have someone like Dr.
Newton.
Who is yes.
(14:30):
Through hypnosis.
Guiding people to accessinformation about those states.
And we can definitely haveconversations about no.
Are they being, uh, howsuggestible.
Oh, these clients in that stage,you know, how much is.
Is the practitioner leading themto have these memories or
fantasies.
But the fact that independentlyof that.
(14:53):
People like.
No Dr.
Jim Tucker, for example, havedocumented and interviewed
children who not under hypnosis.
But through spontaneous.
Memory reporting.
Have indicated or providedexamples of memories.
From this in-between livesstate.
(15:15):
Sure we can't corroborate it.
But if we stay in that state ofcuriosity, If we put on this hat
of.
Looking for patterns, right?
When independent sources arepointing to similar things at
the very least.
Right.
Especially for those of us whoare practitioners listening to
this.
(15:36):
And hold.
Tightly to our scientists, liketo in the ideals of science and.
You know, learning.
At the very least it gives uscause to think.
What is this pointing to right.
Wanted to dive a little bitdeeper.
To wonder what if.
(15:57):
There might be other logicalexplanations.
For why?
These information is comingthrough.
But one of the hypothesis thatwe would be remissed to leave
out is could it be that there'sa supporting the idea that there
is a spiritual world?
That we connect with.
(16:19):
When we're no longer in physicalform.
So it's one of the reasons why Ithink journey of falls is a
great book.
To read.
He's very methodical in the waythat he's collated the
information.
And really only included.
Details that were corroboratedby multiple clients.
So, you know, when we thinkabout the scientific method, And
(16:40):
the fact that things need to beable to be replicated
independently.
In order for it to beconsidered.
You know, in the realm ofscientific proof.
With these sorts of concepts,it's much, much harder to create
independent experiments that arereplicable.
But I think we come really closeto something like that.
(17:01):
When you have individuals.
Reporting the same thing on theseparate circumstances.
Right.
So yeah, the very least it givesyou some, yeah.
Some things to consider andthink about.
So highly recommend journey,your souls.
The fourth book.
(17:22):
That I would suggest that Ithink is fantastic.
And it really now startsbridging the gap between science
and spirituality.
Is written by Dr.
Lisa Miller.
Her I feel is.
Producing such important work.
In PA, like in reallychampioning for the integration
(17:44):
of spirituality.
Into our understanding of whatit means to be a human being.
And how to navigate some of thechallenges that we have as human
beings.
And in her book, The AwakenedBrain it is a beautiful
combination of her own.
Personal experiences withspirituality and in her journey
(18:05):
and some of her own.
Personal challenges, but alsothe research that she's been
very actively involved inproducing or exploring to
demonstrate the benefits ofhaving a spirituality, having a
spiritual practice to mental andhealth.
Uh, mental and physical health.
(18:28):
I think her book isgroundbreaking in so many ways,
because it is, or.
Uh, heavily based on science andneuroscience in particular, it
shows how spirituality interactsand strengthens our brain
health.
It's strengthened.
So, mentoring in the marginalhealth.
But also how it protects us fromsome of the challenges that we
(18:50):
have to experience this.
That we have to experience inlife.
You know, it protect us fromdepression.
It protects us from.
Addiction feelings ofloneliness.
and suicidal suicidality, whichat the moment it's such a, you
know, there's such a risingepidemic of individuals
committing suicide.
(19:10):
Uh, for all age groups.
So.
You know, there's such anurgency, I think too.
To connect people to theirspirituality.
And I think.
Dr.
Lisa Miller in her book.
The awakened brain makes afantastic case for why that is
important and why the timebefore it is now, if not
yesterday.
To start prioritizing this inour lives.
(19:34):
And lastly.
A book that isn't overtlyspiritual.
It is, it's very much a kind ofa semi autobiography, but also.
Uh, Psychological manual, whichyou like.
But the core message of thisbook.
100% spiritual.
(19:57):
And that is Man's Search forMeaning by Viktor Frankl.
For those of you who haven'tread it, I highly recommended.
It is an extremely impactful andpowerful book.
Dr.
Frankel, for those of you whoare not familiar.
Was a psych.
Kai interest.
I believe.
Around.
The time of world war two.
(20:18):
He and his family were.
Taken into concentration campsduring world war two.
And you lost almost every singlefamily member at the time.
In the camps.
He was one of the few peoplethat came out alive.
From that harrowing experienceand in man's search for meaning
(20:38):
he Chronicles that, but alsospeaks to.
How.
In order for us to navigate.
Some of the challenges anddownright atrocities that life
can throw at us.
Our most.
Important.
Power where our power reallylies is in our capacity to apply
(21:04):
meaning to what we areexperiencing.
Like, no matter what I amsubjected to, no matter what's
stripped away from me.
No one can take away from me thechoice I make on how I, respond,
how I react to what I'mexperiencing.
That is where our power trulylies.
(21:26):
And it's where our control trulylies.
Right.
So many people will come totherapy.
Wanting to learn how to controltheir emotions and control.
Some of the things that theyfeel uncertain about.
Right?
A lot of it's that discomfortwith sitting with uncertainty.
Which can make life reallychallenging, but it's
(21:46):
unavoidable.
And.
They're looking for externalways to control their lives when
really the only thing they cancontrol.
It internal, right?
It's what they do.
And how they respond.
And so in man's search formeaning Dr.
Frankel makes a beautiful.
Case for that.
(22:08):
And illustrates reallypowerfully.
How, When we're able to ascribea meaning.
To even.
The most painful.
Of experiences.
We are no longer subjected tosuffering.
Right.
(22:28):
Pain is inevitable.
There are always going to bepainful experiences that we have
to navigate as human beings.
But suffering is optional.
Because suffering is just painabout having pain.
And when we were able to scribe,meaning, find some sort of
learning.
Or.
(22:49):
Purpose.
Or wisdom.
In the pain.
That completely frees us fromthe suffering.
So it's, I think man's searchfor meaning is mandatory reading
for every person on earth.
It really does help us find thatinner power that we hold.
(23:11):
And navigating life.
And navigating.
You know, pain.
So I highly recommend.
For those of you that may nothave read it.
And so just a recap of those topfive books that I think if
you're keen to read a little bitmore about spiritual topics in
2025, if that's the year thatyou're going to start diving a
little bit deeper, theseconcepts.
(23:32):
These are the five books that Iwould suggest you start with.
So number one, the CelestineProphecy.
Number two.
Many lives, many masters.
Number three Journey of Souls.
Number four The Awakened Brain.
And number five Man's Search forMeaning.
(23:53):
I will put a link to all ofthese books.
In my show notes to make iteasier for you to find them.
You can probably get them onebook, or I know that men search
for meaning is even available asa free PDF.
On online.
Sorry.
I encourage you to have a lookat that.
And, but that is all I have foryou today.
(24:13):
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And I will speak to you allsoon.
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So for now, stay connected, stayinspired, and keep shining your
light into the world.
Before we dive into today's episode, I wanted to
(00:02):
share something special withyou.
If you've been listening to ourconversations about integrating
spirituality into therapy, youmight be wondering where to
start with your own clients.
To help you with that, I'vecreated a free guide called 20
Client Conversation Starters,exploring Spirituality.
(00:24):
Ethically, Now these aren't justany random questions.
They're carefully craftedprompts designed to open up
meaningful dialogue whilerespecting ethical boundaries
and diverse beliefs.
With each question, you will begiven a context for when and how
to raise it with a client toprovide you with that extra
(00:47):
guidance.
You can download this guideright now by heading to the link
in the show notes and let meknow how you go with using this
conversation.
Starters, I'd love to hear fromyou.
Now it's today's episode.
Welcome to the Integrated WisdomPodcast.
(01:09):
I'm your host, Tatiana DaSilva.
Join me as we discuss what itmeans to live an integrated life
and explore ways for you tocreate a life filled with
greater meaning, peace andconnection by integrating the
wisdom of spirituality,psychology.
(01:29):
Neuroscience, epigenetics andenergy psychology.
I hope to empower you to createdeeper and more loving
connections with yourself andothers, whilst also paving the
way for humanity at large to bereimagined and inspired to
become the very best version of.
(01:54):
Hello and welcome to theintegrated wisdom podcast.
What I wanted to do is starttoday's episode with just some
recommendations for those fewthat are curious, who.
Oh, I want to do a deeper diveinto some spiritual concepts.
Wants to start understanding alittle bit about what
spirituality has to offer.
(02:14):
On, uh, I guess a tangible on apractical level.
And.
But also want to just startopening themselves up to
exploring these concepts.
Uh, you know, with doesn't feeltoo cold fronting and too out
there.
So I'm waiting to be talkingthrough five book
recommendations.
Two.
I invite you to start exploringthese topics a little bit more
(02:37):
fully.
Some of them you may havealready encountered.
If you're here, obviously you'rereally somewhat curious about
spirituality.
So you may have encountered someof these books.
But if not, you know, theydefinitely would be amazing
books to start with.
But I think they're also thetypes of books that don't hurt
to go back to again and again.
(02:59):
Because you start to uncoverother pearls of wisdom and
things that we would benefitfrom.
With.
You know, going away and comingback with a fresh perspective,
with a little bit more livedexperience, it adds assertion
nuance to that, to the book thatwe may not have received that
first time.
That we were dead.
(03:21):
So let's get going.
The very first book that I'mgoing to suggest.
Is.
Probably.
One of the very, very firstbooks that I read.
That started me thinking aboutmore of the energetics of being
a spiritual being on us.
And it's the Celestine Prophecyit was.
(03:44):
Probably a much more popularbook when I first read it, which
was in the nineties.
Give me my age away.
But I was blown away.
I think it was in the ninetiesnow.
I'm pretty sure it was in thenineties.
But it was blowing away by theconcept It is written as a
fictional story.
But the underlying premise.
Is, it talks about theinterconnectedness of all beings
(04:07):
and it speaks to.
How coincidences aren't alwayscoincidences the concept of
signs.
The concept of fate.
Uh, and the fact that we arespiritual beings here, having a
human experience.
I remember it being a reallylike, Gauging read a lot,
(04:28):
reading that book.
And, you know, talked about theaura that people have and the
aura of objects, which is reallyjust the energy, you know?
Field that we, we have as anextension of our.
So entity.
And how we communicate aboutcertain things in a, an unspoken
(04:50):
way, or we can pick upinformation from our
environments in subtle ways.
So that was the very first bookthat I encountered that started
exploring these topics oropening that concept up for me.
So many years, not fast forward,two years down the track.
Thinking back to, I don't know,2018 thinkers.
(05:11):
When I first encountered thisperson's work.
But there is a.
A biologist.
From the UK.
Called Rupert Sheldrake and hiswhole field of study.
Is around what he termedmorphogenetic fields.
Right.
(05:32):
Morphogenetic fields of these.
Subtle energy field or electricmagnetic fields that hold energy
that allow different beings andspecies to communicate with each
other telepathically.
Or, you know, in subtle ways.
And so science has been startingto demonstrate.
(05:53):
In practical, tangible ways.
Some of those concepts that Iencountered way back, you know,
20 years earlier.
Which is really exciting.
And I think we're seeing moreand more of that.
At the moment with a lot ofscientific studies.
Focusing on demonstrating moresubtle.
(06:13):
Somewhat spiritual elements tolife.
Though they may not be callingit that.
And so the Celestine Prophecy isa book I would really recommend
to just, if you're really likereally new.
You don't really have much of aspiritual.
Leaning.
At all or any understanding orexposure to energy?
(06:35):
I would really highly recommendstarting with that book.
It was a great read.
And it just sucks to open up.
Your mind a little bit to thepossibilities.
So it's the Celestine Prophecyby James Redfield.
I will put a link in the shownotes for you.
Well, those of you who areinterested in having a look at
it.
Then the second book that Iwould recommend, which again is
(06:58):
one of those earlier books thatI encountered that really blew
my mind.
And for me particularly, it wasa very impacting book.
Well, it was a very impactfulbook because it was the first
inkling that I received.
That as a psychologist.
I could allow myself to ventureinto the spiritual.
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Discussions and talk about thesethings without.
Compromising my own withoutpotentially compromising my
professional integrity.
And that's many lives, manymasters by Dr.
Brian Weiss.
So for those of you who are notfamiliar with Dr.
Weiss, he is a psychiatrist.
He was quite a super now andrespectable psychiatrist and
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atheist.
And he's worked a lot with theuse of hypnotic regression in
his therapeutic work.
And many lives, many masters isthe first of many books that he
has published.
In his work chronicling.
He transitioned from a moretraditional form of regression
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therapy to starting to becomealmost like one of the leading
experts in past life regressiontherapy.
A chronic follows his work witha particular client of his way
back in the eighties.
I think it was.
Who had, uh, an intractablephobia.
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That no matter what he tried orthe normal, you know, the usual
tools of the trade weren'tworking.
And until he one day during ahypnosis.
Nordic regression.
He instructed this client to goback to the source origin of her
phobia and she spontaneouslywent back to a past life.
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So this many lives, many mastersChronicles, that experience, and
some of the insights that he wasthen able to obtain.
Through that work.
That then became his life work.
It's what he does to this day.
Oh, he doesn't do client workanymore, but he's become a
renown and author in this area,he's run a lot of workshops.
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Guiding people on how to do pastlife regressions or guiding them
through their own experiences.
Uh, which is remarkable.
I had the opportunity to.
To see him life was when he camehere to Australia.
A few years ago.
And it was remarkableexperience.
So I highly recommend that bookbecause it starts to, again,
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explain a little bit about thisconcept of.
There's more to, to.
Our life and what w why we'rehere.
And maybe even some of thestruggles that we have.
That.
May not just be tied to what weare experiencing in this life
that they're there.
Echoes of experiences that wehave had in the past.
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And of course, you know, whenyou allow yourself to think
about that more deeply.
You can see that there are lotsof implications for.
The challenges that we encounterin life, whether it be.
Relational challenges withpeople that we have in our
lives, whether it be.
Some mental health challenges,some physical health challenges,
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even.
You know, there's a lot ofimplications for how we
perceive.
The struggles.
When you start factoring in thepossibility of.
I guess an overlay or an echo.
Of a previous experience thatwe've had in a previous life.
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That might be.
Poking through.
The life that we're livingcurrently.
So it's a book I highlyrecommend again.
I will put it in the show notesfor you.
All his books are great.
But I think in order for you toget the most of the other books,
it really helps to read.
His origin story.
If you like in Many Lives, ManyMasters, to really understand
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how he came to do this work and.
Why he became.
His life's focus.
The third book.
That I would highly recommend.
Again, in the realm of.
Exploring our.
soul essence or the fact that wehave previous lives and how we
come to shape the lives that wehave.
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And again, another Person whoindirectly gave me permission to
own my psychologist Identity aswell as my spiritual, identity.
And that is Journey of Souls byDr.
Michael Newton.
So Dr.
Michael Newton was apsychologist.
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He was a clinical psychologistin the us.
And he also did a lot of workwith regression therapy.
And through experimenting withclients and through his work, he
discovered that some clientswere able to not just recall.
Previous lives, but they couldactually connect with.
The.
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The state that we would be in,in between lives.
So, you know, in a spiritualdimension or realm, And through
thousands of client work.
He documented.
A lot of what the spiritualrealm looks like, how it
operates.
(12:21):
Some of the.
I guess.
The ways and we tweak come todecide.
The life that we are going topeople in inter some of the
lessons that we choose toexperience while we're here.
You know, it's a very impactfulbook.
(12:42):
Because it starts to demonstrateor open up.
The conversation for this ideathat.
We're not.
Helpless victims of circumstancethat life yes, can be very
challenging.
But we're not just having thingshappen to us.
That in many cases.
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There.
Experiences that we've signed onfor or challenges that we've
signed on for always engineeredfor.
In order for our own or notfacilitate on growth.
And learning as spiritualbeings.
Sorry, his book is he's verymethodically documented a lot of
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details from that in-betweenlives state.
Which is, you know, fascinating.
So I would highly recommend thatyou have a read through.
Through that book.
And again, we're putting, I'llput the link in the show notes.
But, you know, just curiously.
There are some researchers atthe university of Virginia that
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have spoken about.
They've been chronicling.
Instances or cases of childrenwho spontaneously remember past
lives.
For many decades, you know,Parroting all the way back to
late forties, fifties.
I think it is.
And in a large proportion ofthose cases, even though they
couldn't include that data.
(14:09):
In their analysis because theycouldn't cooperate it.
But a large proportion of thesechildren would also report.
Memories of that in betweenlives state.
Uh, which I think is prettyfascinating, right?
Because you have the, you know,you have someone like Dr.
Newton.
Who is yes.
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Through hypnosis.
Guiding people to accessinformation about those states.
And we can definitely haveconversations about no.
Are they being, uh, howsuggestible.
Oh, these clients in that stage,you know, how much is.
Is the practitioner leading themto have these memories or
fantasies.
But the fact that independentlyof that.
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People like.
No Dr.
Jim Tucker, for example, havedocumented and interviewed
children who not under hypnosis.
But through spontaneous.
Memory reporting.
Have indicated or providedexamples of memories.
From this in-between livesstate.
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Sure we can't corroborate it.
But if we stay in that state ofcuriosity, If we put on this hat
of.
Looking for patterns, right?
When independent sources arepointing to similar things at
the very least.
Right.
Especially for those of us whoare practitioners listening to
this.
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And hold.
Tightly to our scientists, liketo in the ideals of science and.
You know, learning.
At the very least it gives uscause to think.
What is this pointing to right.
Wanted to dive a little bitdeeper.
To wonder what if.
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There might be other logicalexplanations.
For why?
These information is comingthrough.
But one of the hypothesis thatwe would be remissed to leave
out is could it be that there'sa supporting the idea that there
is a spiritual world?
That we connect with.
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When we're no longer in physicalform.
So it's one of the reasons why Ithink journey of falls is a
great book.
To read.
He's very methodical in the waythat he's collated the
information.
And really only included.
Details that were corroboratedby multiple clients.
So, you know, when we thinkabout the scientific method, And
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the fact that things need to beable to be replicated
independently.
In order for it to beconsidered.
You know, in the realm ofscientific proof.
With these sorts of concepts,it's much, much harder to create
independent experiments that arereplicable.
But I think we come really closeto something like that.
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When you have individuals.
Reporting the same thing on theseparate circumstances.
Right.
So yeah, the very least it givesyou some, yeah.
Some things to consider andthink about.
So highly recommend journey,your souls.
The fourth book.
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That I would suggest that Ithink is fantastic.
And it really now startsbridging the gap between science
and spirituality.
Is written by Dr.
Lisa Miller.
Her I feel is.
Producing such important work.
In PA, like in reallychampioning for the integration
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of spirituality.
Into our understanding of whatit means to be a human being.
And how to navigate some of thechallenges that we have as human
beings.
And in her book, The AwakenedBrain it is a beautiful
combination of her own.
Personal experiences withspirituality and in her journey
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and some of her own.
Personal challenges, but alsothe research that she's been
very actively involved inproducing or exploring to
demonstrate the benefits ofhaving a spirituality, having a
spiritual practice to mental andhealth.
Uh, mental and physical health.
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I think her book isgroundbreaking in so many ways,
because it is, or.
Uh, heavily based on science andneuroscience in particular, it
shows how spirituality interactsand strengthens our brain
health.
It's strengthened.
So, mentoring in the marginalhealth.
But also how it protects us fromsome of the challenges that we
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have to experience this.
That we have to experience inlife.
You know, it protect us fromdepression.
It protects us from.
Addiction feelings ofloneliness.
and suicidal suicidality, whichat the moment it's such a, you
know, there's such a risingepidemic of individuals
committing suicide.
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Uh, for all age groups.
So.
You know, there's such anurgency, I think too.
To connect people to theirspirituality.
And I think.
Dr.
Lisa Miller in her book.
The awakened brain makes afantastic case for why that is
important and why the timebefore it is now, if not
yesterday.
To start prioritizing this inour lives.
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And lastly.
A book that isn't overtlyspiritual.
It is, it's very much a kind ofa semi autobiography, but also.
Uh, Psychological manual, whichyou like.
But the core message of thisbook.
100% spiritual.
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And that is Man's Search forMeaning by Viktor Frankl.
For those of you who haven'tread it, I highly recommended.
It is an extremely impactful andpowerful book.
Dr.
Frankel, for those of you whoare not familiar.
Was a psych.
Kai interest.
I believe.
Around.
The time of world war two.
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He and his family were.
Taken into concentration campsduring world war two.
And you lost almost every singlefamily member at the time.
In the camps.
He was one of the few peoplethat came out alive.
From that harrowing experienceand in man's search for meaning
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he Chronicles that, but alsospeaks to.
How.
In order for us to navigate.
Some of the challenges anddownright atrocities that life
can throw at us.
Our most.
Important.
Power where our power reallylies is in our capacity to apply
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meaning to what we areexperiencing.
Like, no matter what I amsubjected to, no matter what's
stripped away from me.
No one can take away from me thechoice I make on how I, respond,
how I react to what I'mexperiencing.
That is where our power trulylies.
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And it's where our control trulylies.
Right.
So many people will come totherapy.
Wanting to learn how to controltheir emotions and control.
Some of the things that theyfeel uncertain about.
Right?
A lot of it's that discomfortwith sitting with uncertainty.
Which can make life reallychallenging, but it's
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unavoidable.
And.
They're looking for externalways to control their lives when
really the only thing they cancontrol.
It internal, right?
It's what they do.
And how they respond.
And so in man's search formeaning Dr.
Frankel makes a beautiful.
Case for that.
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And illustrates reallypowerfully.
How, When we're able to ascribea meaning.
To even.
The most painful.
Of experiences.
We are no longer subjected tosuffering.
Right.
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Pain is inevitable.
There are always going to bepainful experiences that we have
to navigate as human beings.
But suffering is optional.
Because suffering is just painabout having pain.
And when we were able to scribe,meaning, find some sort of
learning.
Or.
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Purpose.
Or wisdom.
In the pain.
That completely frees us fromthe suffering.
So it's, I think man's searchfor meaning is mandatory reading
for every person on earth.
It really does help us find thatinner power that we hold.
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And navigating life.
And navigating.
You know, pain.
So I highly recommend.
For those of you that may nothave read it.
And so just a recap of those topfive books that I think if
you're keen to read a little bitmore about spiritual topics in
2025, if that's the year thatyou're going to start diving a
little bit deeper, theseconcepts.
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These are the five books that Iwould suggest you start with.
So number one, the CelestineProphecy.
Number two.
Many lives, many masters.
Number three Journey of Souls.
Number four The Awakened Brain.
And number five Man's Search forMeaning.
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I will put a link to all ofthese books.
In my show notes to make iteasier for you to find them.
You can probably get them onebook, or I know that men search
for meaning is even available asa free PDF.
On online.
Sorry.
I encourage you to have a lookat that.
And, but that is all I have foryou today.
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Thank you for joining me.
And I will speak to you allsoon.
Thanks.
Thank you for tuning into thisepisode of Integrated Wisdom.
It's my sincere wish thattoday's episode may have
intrigued and inspired you toreclaim your power and step into
becoming more fully integratedspiritual beings.
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