October 28, 2025 • 20 mins
In this episode of Integrated Wisdom, we explore what it means to live “between worlds” — when the inner shift has already begun, but the outer reality hasn’t rearranged itself yet. Many people are experiencing this right now: old identities no longer fit, new purpose is emerging, and yet… clarity isn’t there yet. It can feel disorienting, isolating, or like something is “wrong” — when actually, something deeper is waking up.
Tatiana (psychologist + evidence-based spirituality educator) offers a grounded exploration of spiritual evolution, identity transitions, and why these liminal spaces are not setbacks, but an essential phase of growth. You’ll also hear a personal reflection on the transition she’s in — expanding beyond private practice into a broader mission of teaching and speaking about spirituality, psychology, and science.
If you’ve been feeling stuck, uncertain, or “in between,” this is a compassionate guidepost for the road you’re on.
What We Cover
- The psychological + spiritual layers of identity shifts
- Why liminal spaces are often sacred initiations
- How to recognize when you’re in a spiritual transition
- What helps you stay resourced when clarity hasn’t landed yet
- Why not knowing can be a sign of deep alignment
This episode is for you if:
- You feel like you’re outgrowing your current life or role
- You know something is changing, but you can’t articulate it yet
- You’re drawn to spirituality that is grounded in research and lived experience
- You want to feel less alone in your evolution
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Tatiana (00:00):
Welcome to the Integrated Wisdom Podcast.
(00:03):
I am your host, Tatiana DaSilva, psychologist, spiritual
educator, and founder of a bodyof work devoted to lead others
to remembering what we nevertruly forgot, that science and
spirit were never separate.
They are each in their own wayexpressions of the same sacred
(00:23):
architecture.
This podcast is for the quietrevolutionaries, the therapists,
the seekers, the spirituallydiscerning and scientifically
curious who know that we arebeing called into a new paradigm
for personal and collectivetransformation.
(00:45):
Together we explore what itmeans to live a coherent.
Soul led life drawing frompsychology, neuroscience,
epigenetics, energy medicine,and spiritual remembrance.
These aren't just conversations.
They are transmissions for thoseready to return to what's true,
(01:07):
to what's quietly waitingbeneath it.
Hello and welcome to theIntegrated Wisdom Podcast.
I'm Tatiana, and I'm so excitedto have you join me today.
Today we're talking aboutsomething that almost every
single person on a spiritualpath goes through at some point
(01:29):
in time, sometimes more thanonce.
Um, but very few people actuallyname it out loud.
And what I'm talking about isthat uncomfortable stage where
you're not who you used to beanymore, but also have no idea
who you're becoming.
It's like the ground underneathyour life shifts completely, but
(01:50):
the new shape hasn't formed yet,and so it feels very
disorientating.
That's what we're exploringtoday, the space between worlds,
and so see if this soundsfamiliar.
Parts of your life that used tofeel solid.
Now feel maybe a little bit off.
Conversations that once feltfulfilling, now feel just
(02:14):
surface level or maybe theidentity that you've worn for
years just doesn't quite fitanymore.
You know, you might look aroundyour life and think, yeah, I
built this.
I chose this.
So why does this suddenly feellike it's not mine?
(02:36):
Does any of that sound familiar?
It's a strange anddisorientating place because
from the outside nothing iswrong, right?
But internally, everything ischanging and sometimes quite
rapidly.
What's happening is that yourinner world has evolved faster
(02:58):
than your outer world can keepup.
Your values, your priorities,your sense of truth, they're all
rearranging themselves, and thisis the spiritual growth that no
one really talks about or cheersfor.
It's quiet, it's messy.
It asks for patience that youdon't feel like you have.
(03:19):
And so what I want to offer youis a different way to understand
this, this phase of your life.
And it is a stage that we all gothrough sometimes for longer
periods than others, but it's,it's definitely a passing phase.
So this space between who youwere and who you're becoming is
(03:40):
all part of the design.
It's not a mistake.
Spiritual evolution doesn'tunfold like a straight line.
Now we've all heard that sayingthat healing isn't linear and
it's truly not.
Um, and spiritual evolutionisn't linear either.
We will have growth spurts wherewe make huge leaps forward, and
(04:02):
then we might kind of stagnatefor a little period of time.
Maybe sometimes we might evendefault to certain things that
we didn't want to do anymore,before we can take another big
leap forward again.
So.
it's not a straight line by anymeans.
We'll expand and sometimes lifedoesn't always update instantly.
(04:25):
It doesn't keep pace with what'sgoing on internally.
And so we can be left kind offeeling like we're hanging in
between these two, seeminglyopposite stages.
But here's the thing,transformation will always
disrupt your identity first.
Because before the new versionof you arrives, the old version
(04:49):
starts to loosen anddisintegrate a little bit.
And that can be superuncomfortable, but it's
necessary.
And I want you to think about itlike the, you know, the
chrysalis stage of a butterfly.
For a period of time it'scocooned in the chrysalis, it's
in the darkness.
It all feels like it's lostbefore it can break out into the
(05:10):
new version of itself as thebutterfly.
Spiritual transformation,spiritual growth is very much
like that.
And this is where most peoplewill start to doubt themselves,
right?
When relationships will feeldifferent, when maybe your work
starts to feel misaligned.
(05:31):
when what once felt like purposenow feels like routine or it
doesn't even feel like it fits.
And we often interpret this as.
I'm losing it.
We start to really second guessourselves and our sanity.
Or maybe we beat ourselves upand start, you know, thinking to
ourselves that we're ungratefulor we feel really lost and stuck
(05:57):
and say to ourselves, I'mrisking everything for nothing.
you can't really see the, theresults or the the gains coming
from these changes yet.
But what if, what's really goingon is that your inner life is
just calling your outer lifeforward.
Not away from what matters, buttowards what's now true or what
(06:20):
was always true, but we had tobuild towards.
And I think one of the hardestways in which this manifests is
in our relationships.
You know, in my last episode Ispoke a little bit about some of
the recent transitions that I'vebeen through as part of my
current growth journey, and thatinvolved, um, that
(06:42):
disintegration of my marriage.
But throughout this process,there's been lots of different
relationships that havetransitioned in my life too, and
it can be really hard when thepeople around you might not be
changing in the same pace as youor in the same direction as you,
so they might not understandwhat's unfolding for you.
(07:03):
They might even feel threatenedby it in some ways, and that can
feel really isolating and reallyscary because we are so deeply
wired for belonging.
Right.
But it's so important for us toacknowledge as well that
belonging that requires us toshrink who we are is not
(07:25):
belonging.
it's self betrayal.
And as you grow spiritually, therelationships that can hold your
fullness become clearer.
And those that can't, theybecome clearer too.
Unfortunately, and that clarityis both a gift, but it's also
very painful.
(07:47):
And you know, from my ownperspective, I've gone through
this process several times in mylife and one of the moments that
I'm going through right now isone of those growth periods that
you know, I wanna share with youbecause I think.
I want you to understand thatthese, these transitions are
(08:08):
part of the experience of beinghere, and you're not alone maybe
your exact expression of, of thetransition is unique to you.
It doesn't look exactly likeother people's, but in one way
or another, we're all goingthrough, or we're going to go
through or have gone throughthese moments of transition.
(08:28):
That feel really destabilizingin a way.
And for me, um, other than myrelationship, my career is, is
one where there is at the momenta lot of shift.
For most of my professionallife.
I have been very clear on who Iam.
I'm a psychologist helpingpeople one-on-one in private
(08:50):
practice.
I've been running my privatepractice for 14, almost 15 years
now.
And that is what I've lived andbreathed all along.
And from very young, I knew thatI wanted to be a psychologist.
I toyed around with a couple ofdifferent things, but most of
the time my true north wasalways psychology.
(09:10):
that I kept coming back to, andit's what I envisaged myself
doing for my entire life.
And.
it's an identity that's alwaysbeen reliable.
It's always been safe, and it'sone that I've always been very
proud of.
I'm very proud of the work thatI've done or that I still do.
I've always loved, the privilegeof sitting in these processes of
(09:32):
healing with other people.
and it's, you know, I used tojoke that if I didn't need to
make money for a living, I woulddo it for free because I just
loved it so much.
But over these recent years, asyou've been, listen, those of
you who have been following thepodcast will have heard me say
at different times.
There's been a lot of shiftsinternally for me, calling me
(09:55):
towards, I guess, my next stageof, um, purpose.
And it's all been in many ways,very subtle.
It's been gradual, definitelynot all at once, but it's been
growing in intensity, inurgency, over the years and
(10:18):
particularly in the last coupleof years, that sense of urgency
has been much more acute.
and it's this subtle knowingthat just wouldn't go away, that
there is more to why I'm here.
There's more that I'm here tosay.
There is more that I'm here tocontribute and there are more
(10:40):
people that I'm meant to supportin ways that I just couldn't
possibly do in one-on-onetherapy, and that's the work
that I'm doing now.
Speaking on spirituality,consciousness, science, healing.
It all just feels so deeplyaligned for me.
(11:01):
It feels really true and alivein my bones.
It's why I am here.
You know, it's what I'm calledto do now, but it's also been
very disorienting because thisold version of me, the
psychologist, whose weeks arestructured around clients and
clinical frameworks, it hasn'tfully dissolved.
You know, I still workclinically three days a week and
(11:27):
I am very much with one foot ineach camp at the moment.
In some ways, these two versionsof me can clash at times because
as I've spoken about in, in someother episodes, particularly
here in Australia, thisintegration of spirituality In
clinical practice, is still notwidely done or spoken about.
So at times it can feel like I'mdoing something a little bit
(11:49):
subversive, even though I'm not,and there's so much like
scientific evidence to show whythis is integral to, to the work
that we do as psychologists, butit can feel sometimes like I am,
I've got one foot in each world,if you like, and that can be
(12:10):
confronting and disorientatingat times.
But this new version of me, theone that's here speaking to you
now, it's still also forming,right?
Like I'm still finding my voice,still discovering what this
mission wants to become.
I've got ideas I get, I've gotglimpses of where it's heading,
(12:30):
but I don't see the fullpicture, which for me at times
can be very, very confronting.
'cause I like to know.
I like to be able to plan withcertainty.
and it's not a really, unfoldingin that way.
so that can feel a little bitUncomfortable a lot of the time.
But, I want to understand thatI'm living here in this,
(12:51):
in-between space too, you know?
some days it feels reallythrilling, and other days it
does feel like a little bit of afree fall.
But what I'm certain of is thatsomething is guiding this whole
process, something intelligent,something loving, something
wise.
And even if I can't see thewhole map yet, there is a part
(13:16):
of me that trusts that is allgoing to unfold in the way that
it needs to and at the pace thatit needs to.
And so for those of you who arelistening and feel like you're
living in this in-between spacetoo, I want to give you a few
gentle questions that you cansit with and reflect on to help
(13:38):
you maybe gain a little bit moreclarity about your own personal
process.
The first question is, whatparts of my life no longer feel
like a reflection of who I'mbecoming?
Like sit down, give yourselfspace, no distractions and
journal on these questionsreally allow these answers to
come to the surface.
So again, the first question,what parts of my life no longer
(14:01):
feel like a reflection of whoI'm becoming?
The second question is, where doI feel a quiet pull towards
something more, even if I can'tname it yet, or even if it
doesn't make sense.
And the third question is whatwould happen if I trusted the
timing of this transition?
(14:24):
So I don't want you to feel likeyou need to rush to clarity,
right?
Allow it to be revealed to youas you sit down in your journal.
You might start first throughanswering intellectually, like
thinking the way through theanswers.
But if you give yourself spaceand stillness, you might hear
(14:46):
the answer come to the surface.
It might float in into yourawareness, either as visual
images or felt sense, or itmight even be a thought that you
hear in your mind, but justallow this becoming to take the
time that it needs, allow it toreveal itself to you in
whichever way it needs to.
(15:07):
Okay.
And some other things that youcan do to support yourself
through this transition processare firstly, stay close to what
feels meaningful, even if it'ssmall.
Follow the things that give youa subtle yes.
Anything that you'reencountering that you have a
felt sense of a yes, even ifit's really subtle and quiet.
(15:30):
Follow that.
Follow those nudges.
Secondly, allow uncertainty toexist without forcing clarity.
Full disclosure, this is onethat I struggle with a lot.
Um, but allowing yourself to sitin that, in that space of
uncertainty, right?
Like allowing these things tounfold naturally or in their own
(15:54):
time, seeing questions more asdoorways being curious.
Um, that's really important partof this process and keeping
yourself sane, I guess, whilstyou're going through this.
so that's number two.
Thirdly, listen to your innerknowing a lot more boldly.
(16:16):
So not needing externalvalidation for your inner
truths.
When you feel that inner, like,that inner sense of certainty,
when you've got a clear answer,just lean into that.
Follow that unquestioningly andsee where it takes you.
And lastly.
(16:37):
Place yourself in theenvironment where your evolution
is welcomed.
So read, listen, connect withwhat resonates to these new
evolving aspects of yourself,right?
And allow your system to adjust,and that includes the people
that you are, you connect with.
Right.
Finding people that are, thatare supportive of this
(16:59):
transition, even if they don'tunderstand it, they don't have
to understand it.
Right.
But they need to be supportive.
So guarding that fiercely.
Okay.
And so, yeah, I hope that ifyou're in this liminal space,
this in-between world phase inyour life right now, I hope that
you feel seen here.
(17:20):
You know you are, and know thatyou're not collapsing, you're
not disintegrating, you're notlost, you're just expanding and
evolving.
And expansion can feel likeinstability before it feels like
freedom.
So if this episode resonated foryou and you're craving a more
grounded way to explore thescience behind all of this that
(17:42):
is validating so much of whatyou are experiencing, I've
created something that mightsupport you.
It's a free, really short microcourse called The Science of
Spirituality.
Just three short videos total of15 minutes max.
between the three videos, um, tojust help you understand a
(18:03):
little bit more of what thescience is showing and, and
connecting these dots for you Itdoesn't tell you what to
believe.
It just gives language andevidence to what you are already
sensing.
And you can find the link in theshow notes, So I just wanna
thank you for being here today.
I'm really grateful to have youjoin me.
(18:24):
I hope it has resonated.
If you know of other people inyour life who might be, going
through something similar or whothis might resonate for or guide
them through something thatthey're living through, you
know, invite you to share it.
(18:45):
let's have more of theseconversations.
Let's normalize theseexperiences for people.
So once again, thank you for,for being here.
And as always, you were neverdisconnected.
Only waiting to remember.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you for tuning into thisepisode of Integrated Wisdom.
(19:08):
It is my sincere wish that thisepisode may have intrigued and
inspired you to reclaim yourpower and step into becoming
more fully integrated spiritualbeings.
New episodes are published everysecond Wednesday, and I hope
that you'll continue to join usas we dive deeper into what it
means to live an integratedlife.
If this space has stirredsomething in you, I invite you
(19:31):
to subscribe, share it withthose attuned to this path, and
explore the full body of work atintegratedwisdom.com au.
You can also find me onInstagram at Wisdom with
Tatiana, where the conversationcontinues.
Until next time, staydiscerning, stay curious, and
(19:53):
let this be your reminder.
You were never disconnected.
Only waiting to remember.
Welcome to the Integrated Wisdom Podcast.
(00:03):
I am your host, Tatiana DaSilva, psychologist, spiritual
educator, and founder of a bodyof work devoted to lead others
to remembering what we nevertruly forgot, that science and
spirit were never separate.
They are each in their own wayexpressions of the same sacred
(00:23):
architecture.
This podcast is for the quietrevolutionaries, the therapists,
the seekers, the spirituallydiscerning and scientifically
curious who know that we arebeing called into a new paradigm
for personal and collectivetransformation.
(00:45):
Together we explore what itmeans to live a coherent.
Soul led life drawing frompsychology, neuroscience,
epigenetics, energy medicine,and spiritual remembrance.
These aren't just conversations.
They are transmissions for thoseready to return to what's true,
(01:07):
to what's quietly waitingbeneath it.
Hello and welcome to theIntegrated Wisdom Podcast.
I'm Tatiana, and I'm so excitedto have you join me today.
Today we're talking aboutsomething that almost every
single person on a spiritualpath goes through at some point
(01:29):
in time, sometimes more thanonce.
Um, but very few people actuallyname it out loud.
And what I'm talking about isthat uncomfortable stage where
you're not who you used to beanymore, but also have no idea
who you're becoming.
It's like the ground underneathyour life shifts completely, but
(01:50):
the new shape hasn't formed yet,and so it feels very
disorientating.
That's what we're exploringtoday, the space between worlds,
and so see if this soundsfamiliar.
Parts of your life that used tofeel solid.
Now feel maybe a little bit off.
Conversations that once feltfulfilling, now feel just
(02:14):
surface level or maybe theidentity that you've worn for
years just doesn't quite fitanymore.
You know, you might look aroundyour life and think, yeah, I
built this.
I chose this.
So why does this suddenly feellike it's not mine?
(02:36):
Does any of that sound familiar?
It's a strange anddisorientating place because
from the outside nothing iswrong, right?
But internally, everything ischanging and sometimes quite
rapidly.
What's happening is that yourinner world has evolved faster
(02:58):
than your outer world can keepup.
Your values, your priorities,your sense of truth, they're all
rearranging themselves, and thisis the spiritual growth that no
one really talks about or cheersfor.
It's quiet, it's messy.
It asks for patience that youdon't feel like you have.
(03:19):
And so what I want to offer youis a different way to understand
this, this phase of your life.
And it is a stage that we all gothrough sometimes for longer
periods than others, but it's,it's definitely a passing phase.
So this space between who youwere and who you're becoming is
(03:40):
all part of the design.
It's not a mistake.
Spiritual evolution doesn'tunfold like a straight line.
Now we've all heard that sayingthat healing isn't linear and
it's truly not.
Um, and spiritual evolutionisn't linear either.
We will have growth spurts wherewe make huge leaps forward, and
(04:02):
then we might kind of stagnatefor a little period of time.
Maybe sometimes we might evendefault to certain things that
we didn't want to do anymore,before we can take another big
leap forward again.
So.
it's not a straight line by anymeans.
We'll expand and sometimes lifedoesn't always update instantly.
(04:25):
It doesn't keep pace with what'sgoing on internally.
And so we can be left kind offeeling like we're hanging in
between these two, seeminglyopposite stages.
But here's the thing,transformation will always
disrupt your identity first.
Because before the new versionof you arrives, the old version
(04:49):
starts to loosen anddisintegrate a little bit.
And that can be superuncomfortable, but it's
necessary.
And I want you to think about itlike the, you know, the
chrysalis stage of a butterfly.
For a period of time it'scocooned in the chrysalis, it's
in the darkness.
It all feels like it's lostbefore it can break out into the
(05:10):
new version of itself as thebutterfly.
Spiritual transformation,spiritual growth is very much
like that.
And this is where most peoplewill start to doubt themselves,
right?
When relationships will feeldifferent, when maybe your work
starts to feel misaligned.
(05:31):
when what once felt like purposenow feels like routine or it
doesn't even feel like it fits.
And we often interpret this as.
I'm losing it.
We start to really second guessourselves and our sanity.
Or maybe we beat ourselves upand start, you know, thinking to
ourselves that we're ungratefulor we feel really lost and stuck
(05:57):
and say to ourselves, I'mrisking everything for nothing.
you can't really see the, theresults or the the gains coming
from these changes yet.
But what if, what's really goingon is that your inner life is
just calling your outer lifeforward.
Not away from what matters, buttowards what's now true or what
(06:20):
was always true, but we had tobuild towards.
And I think one of the hardestways in which this manifests is
in our relationships.
You know, in my last episode Ispoke a little bit about some of
the recent transitions that I'vebeen through as part of my
current growth journey, and thatinvolved, um, that
(06:42):
disintegration of my marriage.
But throughout this process,there's been lots of different
relationships that havetransitioned in my life too, and
it can be really hard when thepeople around you might not be
changing in the same pace as youor in the same direction as you,
so they might not understandwhat's unfolding for you.
(07:03):
They might even feel threatenedby it in some ways, and that can
feel really isolating and reallyscary because we are so deeply
wired for belonging.
Right.
But it's so important for us toacknowledge as well that
belonging that requires us toshrink who we are is not
(07:25):
belonging.
it's self betrayal.
And as you grow spiritually, therelationships that can hold your
fullness become clearer.
And those that can't, theybecome clearer too.
Unfortunately, and that clarityis both a gift, but it's also
very painful.
(07:47):
And you know, from my ownperspective, I've gone through
this process several times in mylife and one of the moments that
I'm going through right now isone of those growth periods that
you know, I wanna share with youbecause I think.
I want you to understand thatthese, these transitions are
(08:08):
part of the experience of beinghere, and you're not alone maybe
your exact expression of, of thetransition is unique to you.
It doesn't look exactly likeother people's, but in one way
or another, we're all goingthrough, or we're going to go
through or have gone throughthese moments of transition.
(08:28):
That feel really destabilizingin a way.
And for me, um, other than myrelationship, my career is, is
one where there is at the momenta lot of shift.
For most of my professionallife.
I have been very clear on who Iam.
I'm a psychologist helpingpeople one-on-one in private
(08:50):
practice.
I've been running my privatepractice for 14, almost 15 years
now.
And that is what I've lived andbreathed all along.
And from very young, I knew thatI wanted to be a psychologist.
I toyed around with a couple ofdifferent things, but most of
the time my true north wasalways psychology.
(09:10):
that I kept coming back to, andit's what I envisaged myself
doing for my entire life.
And.
it's an identity that's alwaysbeen reliable.
It's always been safe, and it'sone that I've always been very
proud of.
I'm very proud of the work thatI've done or that I still do.
I've always loved, the privilegeof sitting in these processes of
(09:32):
healing with other people.
and it's, you know, I used tojoke that if I didn't need to
make money for a living, I woulddo it for free because I just
loved it so much.
But over these recent years, asyou've been, listen, those of
you who have been following thepodcast will have heard me say
at different times.
There's been a lot of shiftsinternally for me, calling me
(09:55):
towards, I guess, my next stageof, um, purpose.
And it's all been in many ways,very subtle.
It's been gradual, definitelynot all at once, but it's been
growing in intensity, inurgency, over the years and
(10:18):
particularly in the last coupleof years, that sense of urgency
has been much more acute.
and it's this subtle knowingthat just wouldn't go away, that
there is more to why I'm here.
There's more that I'm here tosay.
There is more that I'm here tocontribute and there are more
(10:40):
people that I'm meant to supportin ways that I just couldn't
possibly do in one-on-onetherapy, and that's the work
that I'm doing now.
Speaking on spirituality,consciousness, science, healing.
It all just feels so deeplyaligned for me.
(11:01):
It feels really true and alivein my bones.
It's why I am here.
You know, it's what I'm calledto do now, but it's also been
very disorienting because thisold version of me, the
psychologist, whose weeks arestructured around clients and
clinical frameworks, it hasn'tfully dissolved.
You know, I still workclinically three days a week and
(11:27):
I am very much with one foot ineach camp at the moment.
In some ways, these two versionsof me can clash at times because
as I've spoken about in, in someother episodes, particularly
here in Australia, thisintegration of spirituality In
clinical practice, is still notwidely done or spoken about.
So at times it can feel like I'mdoing something a little bit
(11:49):
subversive, even though I'm not,and there's so much like
scientific evidence to show whythis is integral to, to the work
that we do as psychologists, butit can feel sometimes like I am,
I've got one foot in each world,if you like, and that can be
(12:10):
confronting and disorientatingat times.
But this new version of me, theone that's here speaking to you
now, it's still also forming,right?
Like I'm still finding my voice,still discovering what this
mission wants to become.
I've got ideas I get, I've gotglimpses of where it's heading,
(12:30):
but I don't see the fullpicture, which for me at times
can be very, very confronting.
'cause I like to know.
I like to be able to plan withcertainty.
and it's not a really, unfoldingin that way.
so that can feel a little bitUncomfortable a lot of the time.
But, I want to understand thatI'm living here in this,
(12:51):
in-between space too, you know?
some days it feels reallythrilling, and other days it
does feel like a little bit of afree fall.
But what I'm certain of is thatsomething is guiding this whole
process, something intelligent,something loving, something
wise.
And even if I can't see thewhole map yet, there is a part
(13:16):
of me that trusts that is allgoing to unfold in the way that
it needs to and at the pace thatit needs to.
And so for those of you who arelistening and feel like you're
living in this in-between spacetoo, I want to give you a few
gentle questions that you cansit with and reflect on to help
(13:38):
you maybe gain a little bit moreclarity about your own personal
process.
The first question is, whatparts of my life no longer feel
like a reflection of who I'mbecoming?
Like sit down, give yourselfspace, no distractions and
journal on these questionsreally allow these answers to
come to the surface.
So again, the first question,what parts of my life no longer
(14:01):
feel like a reflection of whoI'm becoming?
The second question is, where doI feel a quiet pull towards
something more, even if I can'tname it yet, or even if it
doesn't make sense.
And the third question is whatwould happen if I trusted the
timing of this transition?
(14:24):
So I don't want you to feel likeyou need to rush to clarity,
right?
Allow it to be revealed to youas you sit down in your journal.
You might start first throughanswering intellectually, like
thinking the way through theanswers.
But if you give yourself spaceand stillness, you might hear
(14:46):
the answer come to the surface.
It might float in into yourawareness, either as visual
images or felt sense, or itmight even be a thought that you
hear in your mind, but justallow this becoming to take the
time that it needs, allow it toreveal itself to you in
whichever way it needs to.
(15:07):
Okay.
And some other things that youcan do to support yourself
through this transition processare firstly, stay close to what
feels meaningful, even if it'ssmall.
Follow the things that give youa subtle yes.
Anything that you'reencountering that you have a
felt sense of a yes, even ifit's really subtle and quiet.
(15:30):
Follow that.
Follow those nudges.
Secondly, allow uncertainty toexist without forcing clarity.
Full disclosure, this is onethat I struggle with a lot.
Um, but allowing yourself to sitin that, in that space of
uncertainty, right?
Like allowing these things tounfold naturally or in their own
(15:54):
time, seeing questions more asdoorways being curious.
Um, that's really important partof this process and keeping
yourself sane, I guess, whilstyou're going through this.
so that's number two.
Thirdly, listen to your innerknowing a lot more boldly.
(16:16):
So not needing externalvalidation for your inner
truths.
When you feel that inner, like,that inner sense of certainty,
when you've got a clear answer,just lean into that.
Follow that unquestioningly andsee where it takes you.
And lastly.
(16:37):
Place yourself in theenvironment where your evolution
is welcomed.
So read, listen, connect withwhat resonates to these new
evolving aspects of yourself,right?
And allow your system to adjust,and that includes the people
that you are, you connect with.
Right.
Finding people that are, thatare supportive of this
(16:59):
transition, even if they don'tunderstand it, they don't have
to understand it.
Right.
But they need to be supportive.
So guarding that fiercely.
Okay.
And so, yeah, I hope that ifyou're in this liminal space,
this in-between world phase inyour life right now, I hope that
you feel seen here.
(17:20):
You know you are, and know thatyou're not collapsing, you're
not disintegrating, you're notlost, you're just expanding and
evolving.
And expansion can feel likeinstability before it feels like
freedom.
So if this episode resonated foryou and you're craving a more
grounded way to explore thescience behind all of this that
(17:42):
is validating so much of whatyou are experiencing, I've
created something that mightsupport you.
It's a free, really short microcourse called The Science of
Spirituality.
Just three short videos total of15 minutes max.
between the three videos, um, tojust help you understand a
(18:03):
little bit more of what thescience is showing and, and
connecting these dots for you Itdoesn't tell you what to
believe.
It just gives language andevidence to what you are already
sensing.
And you can find the link in theshow notes, So I just wanna
thank you for being here today.
I'm really grateful to have youjoin me.
(18:24):
I hope it has resonated.
If you know of other people inyour life who might be, going
through something similar or whothis might resonate for or guide
them through something thatthey're living through, you
know, invite you to share it.
(18:45):
let's have more of theseconversations.
Let's normalize theseexperiences for people.
So once again, thank you for,for being here.
And as always, you were neverdisconnected.
Only waiting to remember.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you for tuning into thisepisode of Integrated Wisdom.
(19:08):
It is my sincere wish that thisepisode may have intrigued and
inspired you to reclaim yourpower and step into becoming
more fully integrated spiritualbeings.
New episodes are published everysecond Wednesday, and I hope
that you'll continue to join usas we dive deeper into what it
means to live an integratedlife.
If this space has stirredsomething in you, I invite you
(19:31):
to subscribe, share it withthose attuned to this path, and
explore the full body of work atintegratedwisdom.com au.
You can also find me onInstagram at Wisdom with
Tatiana, where the conversationcontinues.
Until next time, staydiscerning, stay curious, and
(19:53):
let this be your reminder.
You were never disconnected.
Only waiting to remember.
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