September 7, 2025 • 43 mins
Bounty Killer makes his triumphant return to the United States after a 15-year absence, reflecting on his journey from dancehall icon to cultural guardian and philanthropist. The legendary artist shares intimate details about his evolution from "cross, angry and miserable" to a social entrepreneur who established the Bounty Foundation to support Jamaican communities.
• Discusses his historic return to Brooklyn, moving from the Biltmore Ballroom to Barclays Center
• Explains his transition from being anti-social to engaging with fans on social media
• Shares the story behind starting the Bounty Foundation in 2018 to support Jamaican hospitals
• Reflects on his role mentoring artists and creating unity through groups like Scare Dem Crew and Alliance
• Provides insight into the recent reconciliation between Movado and Vybz Kartel
• Distinguishes between being a "gatekeeper" and being a "guardian" of dancehall culture
• Reveals this will be his first-ever 4th of July weekend performance in the US
• Emphasizes that loyalty and support are core values in both his personal and professional relationships
This Saturday at Barclays Center, Bounty Killer promises an unforgettable performance: "It's like a bullet out of a gun, and this is one that fermented and very cure. This is one like in the chamber for 15 years. So when this release, Barclays going to become Darkleys."
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Check, check, check, check.
One tree, one tree, yourStudege and Airpower 105 when
I'm here.
And it's another historic day,another historic day for New
York City, another historic dayespecially for Brooklyn.
Shout out to the Bronx, shoutout to the Queens, shout out to
Long Island, shout out to allthe boroughs.
But this is crazy for us in theculture.
This is crazy for us in theculture.
(00:24):
So, right now, for the firsttime in about, I want to say for
me well, I've seen you when I,you know, fall to Jamaica and
stuff, but being here with me onthe radio station for the first
time, the Ward Lord, aka thegeneral, aka bounty killer.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Warlord in the middle of that.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yo Listen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I don'tthink people understand.
Like for me, this is not justhistoric, this is like.
For me, this is more personal.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You know what I'm saying Because I've witnessed at
least 80% of the Warlord'scareer.
The road, yeah and thedevelopment.
Yes, yeah, you were there.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah yeah, I preached on station.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
RIP to Big Brother Claude.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yes, rip to Super Claude, definitely.
So.
I know everybody's been taggingyou Everybody's.
So I know everybody's beentagging you, everybody's been
posting everybody, and I seethat you've been very
interactive with your fans.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I always try to , Because you know social media
should socialize a bit.
No, no, no, it's a social space.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Listen, coming from a person that understands the
warlord himself.
Yeah, I used to be anti-social.
I used to post social media andnever get no prep for
socializing yes socialization orbeing a socialite.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, so this is in social media.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, so this is like a learning process it's a
learning process and, and and,and I'm happy to see that
development because not sayingthat you are, you know, you know
what you say, you are angry andmiserable.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I used to be cross, angry and miserable yeah, but I
grow beyond just being cross andmiserable out of nothing.
It has to take a lot to get mecross, angry and miserable.
You don't just come without across right now.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, yeah, I've noticed you've done a lot and
you've been giving back a lot tothe communities and you're
actually advocating like a realpolitician.
Sometimes I've watched you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, they said, I'm a social entrepreneur, I'd like
to do the social development.
You know, I like to see peopledoing good socially.
So for a long time I came fromfrom the ghetto and I know
hardship.
So I always try to give backand I always try to contribute
to the society.
And then, recently now, Istarted a foundation in 2018,
(02:59):
the Bounty Foundation.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I remember that yep.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But that was because I tried to import some beds for
the hospitals and I didn't knowabout concession and I thought
from you're going to give itaway, they're just going to make
you bring it in the countryfree.
But there was some taxconcession for import gas and it
was Miss Bobsey Grange whoreally helped us to get an
(03:22):
exemption from the government tobring in the beds.
So after that, now we decide wehave to form the foundation, so
it would be legally anon-profit organization.
Yeah, we would approach to bringin import things in the country
and it wouldn't have no extracost.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, in import costs .
Yeah, a lot of times we weren'treally educated with that kind
of stuff, we just want to helppeople.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
We just want to help people, yeah, but it takes a
little more than just help.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Bro a lot of paperwork that we don't really
care for but we have to do it,but we ain't getting to that
part yet.
Let's talk about the challengesand tribulations for you, just
to get here today.
It's a lot, because I've heardrumors before that you actually
had a, a visa, but it wasn't aworking permit, and you know
(04:08):
that's a rumor.
That's a rumor.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, there was a rumor going around it's
something that I said on aninterview that I don't want a
visiting visa I'm not a visitorI'm a worker.
Yes, I have something to haveto the culture and people took
it out of perspective.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yo, they ran.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And said I've gotten it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yes, because I heard it, but I know the truth it was
not offered or anything.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's just me make a statement that I don't want a
visiting visa.
I want a work permit.
Yes, because I'm a man who willwork in America.
I don't see America assomewhere to hang out and chill.
Yeah, and if anybody rememberme, I don't chill in America.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I always do my job.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm back home.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yes, I'm Mr Jamaica, mr Jamaica, and I reside there
in Jamaica, in Jamaica, yes, butI love to come to America and
do my work, and please my fansand that's just.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's just the assignment.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yes, 100%, because I just want to clear clear that
because a few people actuallyyeah that's good when you
actually speak to bunty, figureout why he did that, and I me
telling them they don't believeme I know I only have one
american visa.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's a work permit.
Yes, I have no visiting visa.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So, everyone, that is clear, that is clear.
So now, now, now, let, let's,let's, let's, let's talk about
you seeing all your children nowactually growing.
Yeah, and what I mean bychildren, I'm talking about
musical children yeah we'retalking about the wine yeah,
yeah, that's what I thought,yeah yeah.
(05:36):
So I don't, I don't people.
All right, so let me, let mestart from this, because I, I, I
, I know this history and I knowthis business, different from a
lot of people.
So you, as Bunty Killer right,people don't know that.
You kind of I'm not going tosay you started, but to me, for
(05:57):
me, this is my opinion and whatI've seen you've started with
bringing youths on the stage,showing them this, showing them
that, making the teams, makingthem understand like yo, this is
what we're doing.
Get on the stairs, because, asme, seeing bunty killer, I
didn't really see too muchpeople do that for bunty killer
nobody never done that for me.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
No one has ever tried to groom me or mentor me.
You understand, people assistedme, but no one never take me
under their wing and said do itlike this, do it like that, do
it like that.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I get a little advice here and there Am I correct as
I speak right.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah well, I'm not the first person who try to
highlight persons, but takingthem under your wing and guiding
and grooming them, because callon a person on a stage and they
get a little highlight tonightor tomorrow and then the next
week or month nobody sees them.
That's not really helping themto develop.
Yes, just giving them ahighlight.
I took people under my wing yesmy brothers, guide them, groom
(06:58):
them, assist them financiallyshow them up with the doppler
everything, yep, everything.
I even sacrifice recording forpeople who wants to pay me to
record because they refuse torecord the younger ones, yep, so
it was just something that Ithink of giving back to the
(07:18):
music and the culture and it allcaused because dandemite was
more like not a mentor, but abrother, a support.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yes, 100%.
Who was there?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
to give me a little advice and suggest things, and I
took it and this is what itcame.
Bounty Killer came from justtwo words of encouragement from
a friend, boom Dandemite.
So that's how I ended upbringing Scare them, because
Dandemite was a part of Scare.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Them.
Yes, he was yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I insist that Dandemite has to become a
superstar.
So that's how it all startedfrom helping and then it became
mentoring, because I never knewI was no mentor.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I was just being a brother.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and then I started to do it and it
became this trend and traditionthing.
So, the alliance came after.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But what I'm saying is in general.
I don't think people give youthe credit like they should.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Some people does.
I wouldn't say I get enough oras much as.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I should.
Can I just give you?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
your flowers right now, bro Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Give me a second, all right.
I personally don't believepeople give you the credit for
what you have done for the nextgeneration.
They know that you did it, butthey don't understand that it's
something that no one taught youto do.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, you did that on your own the type of highlight
I should get for it.
I didn't, but Leave that alone.
I never do it for highlight orfor a reward or any award.
I just do it Out of the wisdomof my heart, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But a lot of people Didn't know you.
A lot of people Never knewBunty actually has a heart.
They always think you were justangry.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm a Tesla gangster, yeah, a Tesla gangster, yeah.
I plug them things in the plug.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
So I just want, as I say.
If I say, I just want to giveyou your flowers right now for
that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's exactly where you came from For that?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Because, remember, we've seen the bunty killer in
Biltmore, We've seen the buntykiller come to New York and
Addis Afrique, this and that,and in the middle of wars and
all kind of thing.
You know what I'm saying.
I was there.
I was there with the Roostersand Rebs and all that, and you
had to stop them and tell themyo y'all chill.
I saw you do that.
(09:36):
You know what I'm saying.
You put yourself on the linefor a lot of things that people
don't give you praise for, and Ijust want to give it to you
before we continue thisinterview.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I just want to give you your flowers.
Thank you, bro, all right.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Everybody give Coach a clap because he deserves that.
Yo, all right and I appreciatethat.
So, going forward now, as inyou gearing up for you know, the
biggest you know show right nowin New York for the whole
holiday New York for the wholeholiday, one of the biggest in
my career.
This is a major holiday weekendright here, and to know that,
(10:14):
you know you are back inside ofBrooklyn also, that's different.
Bk back in BK.
Bk is back and this is whatwe're talking about.
You know BK is Bounty Killer.
You know what I'm saying.
Well, if you know, you know bkis bunty killer, you know I'm
saying.
Well, if you know you know, no,no, a lot of artists impacted
bunty killer, like, like,impacted, like how you like they
want to be this, but buntykiller impacted brooklyn.
(10:37):
I was there, I seen it.
You know I'm saying.
I've seen the sounds War, buntywith Bunty, days, nights.
Come on, bro, what kind ofthat's a different history, yeah
definitely.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We gotta shout out To King Hadiz though Yo All day
Babyface, yeah, wada, itad, wada, itad.
Yeah man, and RIP too.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Uncle Azzy, I'm gonna Wow yeah Yo.
Uncle Ozzy and Gunna, wow yeah,big up the world.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You don't forget anything huh, yeah, you got a
good memory.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It was Addies and Afriksoundstation who started
the Bounty Killer thing.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You understand, and Fergo Digital and Earth Ruler
and Soul Supreme and Young Hawk,because Young Hawk is a part of
it too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, godfather.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, got
Harderweight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Jamie.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And all the other sound systems in New York.
But it all started from KingAdiz and Afrique.
Those are the two first bigsounds came from my dub plate in
92.
Sheesh, yeah, so they startedthis Bounty Killer wave in the
sound system circle.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I think there's no bigger artist in the dub plate
war when it comes to warring isBounty Killer.
I think that's the number one.
Like you can't even go aroundit, bro, everybody get you know,
do that.
But for you to be a sound anddon't have at least five Bounty
Killer dub plates in your box,you're not really a sound.
(12:06):
Well, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's Bounty Killer, yeah, not Bounty Triller.
So it says what it says.
It says what it says.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So now that you're gearing up for the Barclays
right and of course you knowit's going to be a sold out
event we all know that it'scrazy because everyone, everyone
here is talking about it.
We all been pushing it, we allpromoting it.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's like yeah, I see you promoting and giving away
tickets.
Yeah, and it's like it's.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Like you know, CJ even asked me like she just
doing shows right now withpeople that I generally have
great relationships with.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So have great relationships with.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So yeah, she's gonna win for me, regardless if I'm on
it or not.
So exactly that's just how itis for me, you know.
So, cj, shout to you, you'repicking the right people for
your shows.
You're gonna.
You're gonna win what you,what's his, the bros.
You're gonna win with me.
You know I'm saying so.
So going forward now.
Um, people were thinking thatthat you were actually not going
(13:06):
to do a band, so I had a betgoing on right, but why did they
say that?
But the problem was I won tooearly because they did a snip
with you practicing with a band.
I was like damn, he came outtoo early showing them because
they didn't understand thatBunty is a band, bro.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I don't understand why they think we'd go in an
arena with a track no.
No, that's not Bunty, no sometrack's gonna play because some
artist is gonna work on tracks,but I have a return in concert
with a magnitude of this.
It wouldn't be suitable tothose two tracks.
No, unless, I'm going to have aband and then I do tracks in
between if I want to.
(13:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but youdefinitely have a full set of
band Four, yeah, definitelythat's how we work.
A real concert, if it's in alittle club, or yeah of course.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, the tracks could work.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But I would never.
I never did any tracks inarenas.
Are stadiums?
Are those places, unless it'sjust a cameo?
Yeah, yeah five song, threesong no problem.
But if you're gonna do a fullset and this set is gonna be at
least an hour and a half for mebecause there is so much- song I
have to sing a lot of songs.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
There's a lot of songs, a lot of songs that I
haven't sung in years Bro, ifyou know the amount of artists
or themselves or feeling thatactually come into this show,
because you have impacted a lotof artists in this game,
especially New York artists andyou know that too.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You know they're all pulling up for you.
Exactly.
Come on, what do you?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
mean exactly.
You know for a fact, I nevergot a call they're going to pull
up because, listen, this is notsomething where it's like all
right, yeah, man, you might comeI can follow that.
No, this is a person thatcreated history here for us, bro
.
You've created history for usand of course, we have to
support you and show you that weappreciate you.
(14:59):
Thanks All that you've done forus in this culture and people
don't know sometimes that youactually interact, like you
actually answer back.
You're a few artists thatactually answer back when
somebody hits you and talk.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, they are not really people's person, you
understand.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But nah, you're Bunty , bro, like come on.
No, I'm Rodney.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't stay in the Bounty mood Right now.
I I'm just talking about bounty.
I'm more radney than bounty.
I'm more radney than bounty.
Some people more of theircharacter than their personality
.
Yes, bounty is just a littlething that I come up with.
It's not nothing compared to aperson.
Yeah, so this bounty thing canget in between me and
(15:37):
personalizing with people.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And the alienated behavior with artists like.
I'm more than a person.
You are just a person in abetter position.
Nobody, no more than a body.
We have two and we have twofoot, we have two ears, we have
two eyes.
When you have three, and nowyou have three eyes.
Then you're more than somebody,but you're not more than
anybody.
You got some things.
More than them or you're in abetter position.
(16:00):
But me, no, play superstar.
A superstar is a job.
It's not my character.
I'm always in the hood, if youknow, 20 Comer, jamaica, you
know.
See me uptown.
Yeah, I only live uptown, butI'm not uptown Facts.
So I'm just a people person.
I love people more than mymusic.
(16:21):
Yeah, the music come after, thepeople come first, because
without the people the musicwouldn't work.
Yes, so no career on a music nobigger than the audience.
My friends mean more than theroyalty check and they created
it.
Yeah, yes, we know, make themoney and the film get in front
(16:41):
of the value of a person,especially if one like nari, or
artists in nari who contributeto the development of the
culture, and he doesn't want toeat him back For what?
And Nari's not begging himnothing.
I respect that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He's not some people who are plaguing and you know,
yeah, yeah, people of characterand people with importance.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You have to treat them as it is.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, and I respect that, because that's one thing
you always did.
You always like yo, always likeyo.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I'm a loyal person anybody.
I know we have an understanding.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, all of my old schoolfriends from New York we still
friends mm-hmm and developmentof my career has nothing to do
with it.
When I had ten it's we were forno, I got000.
We're even more of a friend.
So the career began.
(17:31):
A friendship, yo yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That's how I work.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
If I go to Jamaica and Uncle T come check me, the
man who recorded my first song,I'm a virgin, see me.
Yes, anything you want me, I gogive him it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, youunderstand yeah yeah, yeah, yeah
, just what played the firstrhythm for me and he might come
play tonight again, youunderstand uh-huh all of the
people who was there.
They are still on board.
If dandemite was alive, rip tomy brother he would have been
(18:00):
right here in this room Ibelieve that I don't leave none
of my soldier behind.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'm a real general facts, every soldier, I've
noticed that, I've noticed thatand I've seen you.
I've seen you curse them out.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, because you gotta regulate them, check them.
Yeah, that's how a generalworks yeah.
Regulation have to be there.
But you're not gonna reallyleave them behind and eliminate
them.
We just regulate them.
But they know it's for theirown good and for the cause of
the whole doctrine, of what westand for, the fundamental of
(18:34):
the organization.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
How was the vibe when you was with Movado and Cartel
together?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That was a moment, bro.
No, that was a awesome moment.
That was exceptional.
Yo, that was a awesome moment.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That was exceptional, yo, that was a real moment.
The fact that we are in the US.
All together.
Yo, that was some crazy vibes,man you know, we appreciate you,
buju, Don't get it twisted.
We appreciate you, but it's adifferent vibe when you see Bug
D.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, because me and Buju reunited years ago when he
just came back.
Yes, when you see, yeah,because me and Buju Reunite
years ago when he just came back.
Yes, so it was really thereunification of Cartel and
Mother, and then me there.
What?
As their mentor To see it nowand you there, cause I was there
when they followed up.
And then to see the two of themIn harmony as brother again.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yo, it was just touching.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Man, great moment, great vibes, and I think people,
people seen it but they don'tunderstand.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
They don't understand .
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, oh my gosh, that's what I'll be trying to
say.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, because Bounty and Beanie Clash Was more like a
sport.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Sport match.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, hold it, you understand, it wasn't that
personal Nah Gully and Gazza WarWas something serious.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Serious.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Social disruption Serious.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
You see, them unified .
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's a big thing for us.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Because their era was a little bit.
Not saying that your era wasn'tviolent, but it was more
controlled.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
No, because more people, all right.
The fans used to have moreunderstanding.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Because Bounty and Beanie clash.
People who said Bounty lovesBeanie and people who said
Beanie loves Bounty but theyjust prefer Bounty over Beanie
or?
They just prefer Beanie morethan Bounty, but they just
prefer Bounty over Beanie, orthey just prefer Beanie more
than Bounty, but it wasn't acase where I hate Beanie or I
hate, Bounty it was a case whereI prefer Beanie or I prefer
Bounty.
This era guys.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I hate Gully and I hate Gaza.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I don't know where the fans them develop that type
of behavior towards music, causeyou can't have one artist and
say you love music, you love anartist.
Loving an artist is differentfrom loving music.
Yes, I love several artists,but I have my preference.
Who is more talented ones.
(20:39):
But it doesn't mean I don't ratethe other ones who have less
talent.
So these people come up withpolitical behavior.
Yeah, like me a Republican, I'ma Democrat, I'm a PMP, I'm a
GLP.
It has something to do withpolitical behavior.
Yeah, like me a Republican andme a Democrat, and me a PMP and
me a JLP, it have something todo with them.
Life, yo, the life, bro.
So it was something veryserious.
So we glad when the twobrothers decide that it's enough
(21:01):
.
It's enough and we just gonnamove on.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And be.
We are big, grown people.
Yes, because they are not kidsanymore.
Nah, nah.
So a big man behavior, the manthey might give them.
Now I'm going to see some badmind fans that cuss it and then
some people that say his money,we do it for bounty killer ever
do anything for just the money?
Nah, nah, nah.
Where on earth people thoughtbounty killer do things for just
(21:28):
money?
I do things where I have to getmy money, of course, but it's
just for the money, or it's areason I'm doing something and
then it bring forth fruits and Icollect for my labor.
Yep, you have to collect foryour labor.
I never come into music formoney.
I came into music to offer mytalent and that's what I'm doing
ever, ever, since my moneydon't make me.
(21:51):
I make money, and my money havenothing to do with me as a
person, me never hype answer.
First thing, I don't ever usethe word I'm rich I just
remember, you was ever rich.
Yeah, yeah, yeah because that'snot an interest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, I'mokay, I'm all right and that's
my interest to be okay and allright.
Rich poor are stranded.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yes, I'm all right.
I'm all right.
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's the thing.
A lot of people are rich andthey're not all right.
They're not okay.
Yep, they are financially, all,spiritually or mentally them
disturb.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yep, mentally and spiritually.
You're right, they disturbexactly so.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That's me.
I deal with monetary things, Ideal with monumental things that
makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So I see, I see like, where you know, I see Khaled
involved.
I see a lot of things going on.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, well, khaled played a big role in getting us
in one space, but Khaledcouldn't make us unite.
If we don't decide to talk toeach other, khaled has nothing
to do with that.
Khaled was the one who put usall on a track and said he
wanted a video and we all agreedto be there and then we all are
going to link up because wedon't have no problem with each
(23:02):
other.
But it wasn't Khaled who saidwe're on the phone, we'll unite.
No, khaled, bring Jamaican inthe space and Jamaicans know
what to do with themselves.
We're supposed to laugh andgather together like Jamaicans.
Out of many one people, onelove, not that we say.
And then to a mother that beenthrough just like his mother his
son went to prison and he gotreleased and cartel won his
(23:26):
appeal and then I was away for15 years from the us.
All those our deal.
We've been through.
Yes, we should sit and rememberabout gully and god's a fooling
ish.
How we should be celebrating.
Still here and we, okay, stillhere, are we going forward?
yes, so our celebration wasbigger than just going to do the
video for khaled.
(23:46):
So when people talking stupidthings, we just laugh, but most
people they don't have no love,so they can't celebrate love.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So when they see, goodness.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
They have no goodness about them, so goodness is not
good enough, yeah.
So the good ones know whatwe're doing and they appreciate
it and they support it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, because we all support it, because it was a lot
of people who just was like yoand they supported.
Yeah, because we all supported,because it was a lot of people
who just was like yo.
This is Khaled and me thatunderstand the culture they
don't know, they don'tunderstand.
It's not about, and respect toKhaled who loves Khaled.
No, Khaled do his.
Thing.
The big thing that.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Khaled did was putting us all on a truck and
decided he wanted a video andgetting us in one space.
He decided he wanted a videoand getting us in one space.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And that caused all the unification.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So, khaled had a big part of it Because he never said
he want us to unite.
If I didn't want to be on atrack with Cartel and Mavada,
Khaled couldn't make it happenand I'm sure if Cartel didn't
want it, 100% Mavada the wholeof us, because we've been places
where Killer have not left hisdressing room until that person
moves, and everybody who knowsus knows that four person.
(24:54):
The four person has a minorfriend home.
Yes, nobody can make Buju donothing when no one do.
Nobody can make Bonte donothing when no one do Nothing.
Nobody can make Cartel or Movado nothing when no one do.
We have never seen that before.
Yes, so why imagine that?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Nah, you come in the house Because you know what it
is.
It's like a lot of people justfeel like, because it's Khaled
and Khaled, khaled, they feellike everybody's moving towards
it.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
No, but most Jamaicans don't want to help you
.
Nobody, neither.
We never get no producer calledsaying he wants us to get up
and do tracks like those inJamaica.
If they get Bounty and Buju,they're good.
They wouldn't think they need acar to learn a move either,
because they just want a thing.
They're not trying to makesomething exceptional.
Khaled always wants to makethings different and sonic.
(25:45):
So that's why he always pushesthe boundary.
And then he's supporting theculture that support him in his
early stage and we have toappreciate that, appreciate that
so whenever he calls us, wealways turned up to support.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Support support for support, and that's and that's
how it goes.
Support for support to supportme yeah, and that's a lot of
people don't understand thatpart too.
The support goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, when them call Khalid culture vulture, it hurt
me because Khalid been around mefrom 1994 to 95, like 30 years
ago, mm-hmm and he has neverturned his back one moment.
And Khalid loved Dan Sal beforeme know him, that's how I get
(26:29):
attached to him.
When I play on the big stationin Miami, I play in the club,
the temple, and he plays achasse planque.
He's supporting us and he neverused to have dub play at that
time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, when we startgiving him dub, he starts
playing with it.
He played with it before, Iplayed with him.
That's why we get gravitated tohim.
I know say up, so that's why weget gravitated to him and now
(26:50):
say this man, I helped plug theculture and 30 years ago
dancehall.
No big pandem station yeah, youunderstand from the kill billy
and the david leave.
It is them at them time theycall it their temple plug
dancehall for we.
So when him come a fully loadedpeople, my things are the first
that him I enter the culture.
But at the first him does getin a sound clash.
But him used to be doing it inthe club and on the radio, so he
(27:12):
has pays his jews in in florida.
Yeah, and he's still, yeah, yeahturned around in his glory days
and sure yeah, yeah, and that'sthe key.
I mean, if I hear them call meangel is a culture vulture.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Okay, yeah, yeah and I'm not saying they are, but I'm
saying they don't call nobodyelse.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Them call me Angel Lee as a culture vulture.
Okay, yeah, yeah, and I'm notsaying they are, but I'm saying
they don't call nobody else.
That means that they have someguts for calling Gotcha, and
that's clear bad mind.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah Well, you know anything that people don't.
Sometimes they're not a part of.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, they try to talk a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, they try to talk a lot.
You know what I'm saying, soI've been through that.
So when people say certainthings, I just kind of like keep
quiet now and argue True,because it don't make no sense.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
No sense, sense less.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Because, at the end of the day, it's going to help
the culture.
I'm for whatever's going tohelp the culture, whatever's
going to help the culture that'sme and my kids.
This culture helps me throughmy whole life, so I'm going to
fight for it Exactly.
We're going to battle, we'regoing to have disagreements.
It is what it is.
People Exactly.
But if it's helping the culture, I'm for it, If you just here
(28:17):
to tap into culture and keep itmoving.
God bless you.
Thank you for passing through.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Don't come back, though.
Don't come back.
You know what I'm saying?
It is what it is, becausepeople just tap into culture to
win for that moment.
Yeah, you see how it is A lotof people in every industry.
Whenever they start to fadedown, they come to the culture,
and the culture always puts themback up.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Exactly, and then they leave.
Nobody sticks around for 30years.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Uh-uh Nah, 30 years.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So that statement made that up.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I didn't even realize it.
I was thinking more like 99.
I wasn't even thinking 94, 95with Cali bro.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, I knew Miami 180 tourist spots Damn Got that
studio Because I remember theFully Loaded.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I remember going to Miami and meeting him a few
times and stuff like that in hisearly days, you know, when he
was just DJing.
He was a beast.
Yeah, he was a beast.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I ain't gonna lie.
We brought him to New York City.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, the Arab attack ?
Yeah, so, I've witnessed theKhaled.
You know Evolution?
Yeah, yeah, evolution, and it'slike you know what it is,
though it's people that don'tunderstand, like you said
earlier, your loyalty yeah, sothat don't understand, like you
said earlier, your loyalty.
Yeah, so they would.
They would.
They would say things aboutBunty.
Say yo Bunty.
You got this truly boy inJamaica and this and that, and
(29:34):
that, and that.
They don't understand Yo Calthat boy don't work with you.
Know what I'm saying?
I'm coming from, but they don'tknow that Bunty said.
It's not really where you comefrom, it's the loyalty that you.
You know what I'm saying andKhaled been loyal to you and,
just like me, he's way moreloyal than a lot of my Jamaican
friends.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Oh yeah, I can see that I'm not shy to say that.
Yeah, a lot of people that Ibring to the forefront they're
not as loyal as Khaled to me,and it's no problem because you
are who you are.
And it's no problem because youare who you are.
You are who you are.
You can't be what you're not.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I think I'm one of the loyal Bunty killer people in
the game.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I think I'm going to take my own praises on that
right now, no, but you are oneof the lawyers, yeah.
Yeah, who knows, knows yeahwhen.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Bunty says yo man, this is something we need, ever
since you's show in love.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, yeah, of course .
So you know, shout out to Cali.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
After Afreeca we're still great friends.
Yo, it wasn't a music vibe, itwas just.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, it was too personal.
Yeah, you got that music now.
Let me tell you that people thatdon't understand, like if you,
if you know Killer.
So just a while ago, when Iwent to go Greek outside, right,
everyone that knows whenKiller's talking and certain
things, you just gotta wait.
You wait till he gets off thephone.
(30:57):
You wait till he finishessmoking a cigarette, and then
you wait and then he says Wagwan, alright, wagwan, killer.
Yo, you know what time I wentto Jamaica and stood there
banking and just wait for likefive, ten minutes.
He's talking, talking, talking.
And then he look Wagwan, there,I'm there, man, yo, killer, I
(31:18):
ain't going to lie, I've rapedthat with you, bro, I ain't
going to lie to you.
It sounds funny to you, I knowpeople tell you all the time,
but that you look forward thatlike that, that don't change how
you maintain that for so long.
Well, I'm just just to be likethat, bro.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I don't know how to maintain, I just know how to be
myself and stay real yo man, Irate you bro.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I haven't got a lot here, man and I, and I respect
everything you do.
The business, and, and andpeople don't understand it's in
your veins and it ain't goingnowhere till the end of it.
I know you're gonna take thisculture to wherever you gotta
take it Anywhere around theworld and you ain't gonna stop.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
No, I take this culture very serious.
This culture caused me a lot ofconsequences with people you
know, People call me gatekeeper.
No, I'm an overseer, I don'thave no gate.
First thing the internet has nogate.
Music has no gate.
Again, back in the days,jammies' studio used to have a
gate Pentos used to have a gate.
Horace used to have a gate andevery studio had a gate.
(32:21):
Now people have studios intheir kitchen in their bathroom,
in their helper's quarters andin their car.
So how come somebody feel likehe out of music if he can't
record all in a car and then youcan't have your?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I don't care yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And then you can't have your own channel, you can't
have your own vlog, so musichas no gate.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
No gate.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Music is in the air, on the net, out in a cyber world
.
Yes, so I'm not a gatekeeper,but I'm an overseer.
I'm a guardian of the cultureand if you offend the culture,
you offends me and then I mightattack.
But I'm not no one who tryingto borrow nobody.
I'm the first one who came andlet go everybody that I could.
(33:03):
First time I made my label, thefirst thing we put out was
value of death.
Check how many singles on it.
And then you tell me how manypre any persons were a star at
the time yeah, I remember thatwas before scared them crew
burst there wasn't a scared themcrew and put out 30 singles
everybody in a jammies yard, allthe dog, my wife, and that's
(33:27):
what caused me and jammies themto break up because they thought
I was gonna be another johnjaloza or steelie or Cleavey,
some big producer yeah 30singles yeah, I remember that
that label.
Yes, I was the first one to tryto help everybody and bring
forth young ones.
I was the one who encouragedMansa Shaq to become a crew
(33:51):
because Because Ghost was a soloartist, general B was a solo,
ron Head was a solo.
It's me make Scare them Crew.
We was all on the streettogether and working together on
the shows and we said let'smake a crew out of it.
And then you have Captain Barkyand we come on.
Rip, barky worm them crew.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, Scare them Crew Mansa.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Shack worm crew.
Yeah, that's that, and then youhave Innocent Crew.
Innocent Crew yeah, I've seenyou.
Yeah, so it was a trend that westarted.
Yes, we first started group up.
All right, we had the first onego up on stage and ten artists
worked together and me createthat in a bum rush.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the time we have ten,you know, one time you know yes,
momentum and pandemonium yeahwe created that.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
That was a scary style I remember those things we
bring.
When the show are done,everybody does get peace.
Yeah, you understand so it'sfrom back in the days.
We show them all the unity.
When we make alliance, peoplethink we make it to fight other
artists.
We build our crew for supportour surrounding, but we never
(34:53):
fight against nobody becauseAlliance and nobody never clash
Like we have Gully and Gaza.
Alliance never clash withnobody.
It's just Cartel one night timewhen he leave three of my
mother, go at it and Gullyaffiliate it to Alliance.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
He throw the jobs there.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And me, and him and himself go to the war you
understand, I did not want toeven answer Cartel, but Cartel
wanted me to answer it.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Of course he did so he kept pushing it, he kept
going he never did a single song, but he knows I listen to it.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Don't push it, I know , my thing and I know your thing
neither.
We never created our own.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
But it was entertaining, though it was
entertaining.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
It's always entertaining To compete Because
it pushes the talent you know.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, jamaicans love them.
Conflict fooling.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
But that's what the culture's about Sometimes.
Yeah, it comes with the culture, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
But that's not the best Part of the culture.
No, no, no, you understand.
Some people love Make it seemlike oh, when dancehall clash of
the ice element, I lied tomattel, I went, shabba, win two
grammy.
Those are the high points ofdancehall yeah when beanie win a
grammy, when boogey win agrammy, when coffee win a grammy
, yeah, them something there atthe high point now, when we're
clashing on stage and then thesefans have no sense of loving
(36:09):
the music and putting personalfeeling aside, that's why I I'm
not even interested in clashinganymore, because the fans
they're misunderstood and theytake it out of context because
they're always fighting on theartist most of the time.
Yeah, and them people nowadaysare the vipers.
They don't love music, theylove hype and they love clout
(36:30):
and they love attention.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, that clout thing is too much, but them
don't love nobody them even lovethe artists them.
I think a lot of them don'teven love themselves.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
They don't love themselves.
Yeah, that's why them can'teven love the artists when them
claim them love.
Yes, so them would encouragethem to do all type of stupid
things.
All kind of stupid things yeah,I love my fans.
But my fans can guide me andsay stuff and the good ones I'll
pick up, but they cannot leadme.
If it makes sense then I willtake the suggestion, but I'm not
(36:58):
listening the fans to get Iidea or opinion if they make
suggestion and it makes senseyeah I'll make sense out of the
sense yeah, yeah, and thatthat's valid
Speaker 1 (37:09):
that's very valid, so so.
So now that valid.
So now that you're here in NewYork City after so many years,
what are we expecting from BuntyKiller Saturday?
That's what I want people tohear.
What are we expecting fromBunty?
I know what to expect.
(37:30):
They need to know what they'regoing to expect.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
The younger folks might not know, yes, so we'll
have to remind them, but it'salways a magnitude and a
euphoria and a pandemoniumbounty killer.
It's like a bullet, youunderstand?
Have you ever seen a bulletflying straight out?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
of a gun.
Have you ever Imagine that?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's like a bullet out of a gun, and this is one
that fermented and very cure.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
This is one like in the chamber for 15 years.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So when this release when this quiz Yo, lord, so
Barclays going to becomeDarkleys, so you should go get
all your black suits and yourblack boots.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yo, okay, you know how much people are going to be
in black For real.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, you know that right how many shades I'm
wearing my shades right now, bro, all the dark glasses, and all
the shades, and all the bootsand the suits, go, get them New
York Go get them.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
New York, listen Barclays.
This Saturday, the Ward LordBounty Killer returns to
Brooklyn Listen.
Finally, and it's crazy, theyfalls on Independence Weekend.
Yeah, so that is now theofficial.
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
If you can remember history, I never performed in
the States for the Fourth ofJuly weekend before.
I believe that I always try toavoid it.
You know why Pie, pie, pie yes.
This is going to be my first4th of July weekend concert in
the US.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Especially with Bounty in.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
That's why I always avoid that situation.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Over the decades.
All right, I've never worked inManchester, in London either,
and it was because of certainbehavior of the people.
They always going to burst upall the time.
Nobody never thought you wasthinking of safety first.
No, but when it come on to yourfans and your reputation, you
(39:30):
got to really think of safety.
I would have never thought ofthat.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I would have never thought of like July, you know,
f the money.
No, it's for the safety of meand the fans and reputation.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
That's fabulous.
So this is going to be my first4th of July weekend concert
ever.
Wow, yeah, wow, and it makessense for the return.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yo it does make sense Because I said that it was like
it should be a festive moment.
Yeah, and it is what's wrongwith you.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
This is the wall of the general.
This is the general, theoriginal general, the only
general, you know what I'msaying, yeah, and then from
Biltmore to Barclays Bro, from athousand people To 19,000.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Everything would just be.
Everything would just be.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, and we just want to tell all the fans who
used to attend the BiltmoreBallroom kudos to them.
They're flying up Because theyare the foundation of this
fanfare.
Yes, yeah, big up to all theoriginal.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Brooklyn Massive Original.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, man, the whole of Flatbush Big up, the whole,
the whole of Utica Church,regent Nineties, new Lots, 90s,
cronites Van der Veer.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Two Firsts Jesus, st Mark's, st Peter's, you know the
whole Brooklyn, big up theBronx and Queens and Long Island
and Jersey and Staten, buteverybody know BK, bk.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Belongs to BK, bk and jersey and starting.
But everybody know bk bkbelongs to bk bk.
Wallah, thank you very muchthank you very, very much for
passing through and of courseyou know anytime you're in new
york city.
You know my most definitely,you know you have to from being
done.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
We have to come show her face and I appreciate you
and connect with the fans.
Uh-huh.
Now we have to pick up cjmiller.
Now, this promoter, yes, shehas a lot of vision and her
expertise and her contributionis exceptional.
Yes, yes, it is.
Yeah, she's the one who reallysee the vision to help push this
(41:29):
thing To the big stage.
And it it's not easy, it's noteasy, it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's not easy, but we definitely Appreciate her.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
It's a big task for her and we support her and she's
doing it big.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
So we should support her.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah Well, she's doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
She's doing the right thing.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
She's, she's, she's definitely Working with, with
the artists that I 100% support.
So, she's going to get mysupport anyway.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You're biased, but thanks to you, man, big up, cj
Milan and the whole productionteam, I'm keeping it real.
You got to go with your loyalty, bro.
Great things for 2025 andbeyond to come.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Come on, bro.
Come on, but just keep it real.
This is a real platform.
Support those who support you,now everybody.
I'm not saying I don't supporteverybody, some people I just do
my part for them, yeah, but yougot to support who's supporting
you.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
You're right, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Support for support.
Yeah, it's not even about Imean.
No, I play everybody's music, Ido whatever, but who I know I
can count on and they can counton me.
They're always my firstpreference.
Yeah, that's how it should goand I appreciate you.
Kaboom, always, monte Kela theWalla, that's right.
July the 5th.
We are definitely inside thebuilding.
(42:45):
The Barclays is going to be.
I don't even know what to say.
It's going to be man.
I just know that it's somethingthat everybody needs to be a
part of.
The witness and, of course,junior Ryder.
We don't know where my deal is.
Warlord in the building.
We are out of here Another time.
Right here, where yours trulyis your nerd, anything goes.
The Warlord.
Bum to Killer Brooklyn, that'sright.
(43:07):
Stop today, respect Banking.
We are out of here Another time.
Right here, where yours trulyIs your nerd, anything goes.
The wall out.
Bump to kill her Brooklyn,that's right.
Stop today.
Respect Banking.
The crew, everybody Bless up.
We got you there.
Ha ha.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Me die.
Ya Barclays are fire.
Check, check, check, check.
One tree, one tree, yourStudege and Airpower 105 when
I'm here.
And it's another historic day,another historic day for New
York City, another historic dayespecially for Brooklyn.
Shout out to the Bronx, shoutout to the Queens, shout out to
Long Island, shout out to allthe boroughs.
But this is crazy for us in theculture.
This is crazy for us in theculture.
(00:24):
So, right now, for the firsttime in about, I want to say for
me well, I've seen you when I,you know, fall to Jamaica and
stuff, but being here with me onthe radio station for the first
time, the Ward Lord, aka thegeneral, aka bounty killer.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Warlord in the middle of that.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yo Listen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I don'tthink people understand.
Like for me, this is not justhistoric, this is like.
For me, this is more personal.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You know what I'm saying Because I've witnessed at
least 80% of the Warlord'scareer.
The road, yeah and thedevelopment.
Yes, yeah, you were there.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah yeah, I preached on station.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
RIP to Big Brother Claude.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yes, rip to Super Claude, definitely.
So.
I know everybody's been taggingyou Everybody's.
So I know everybody's beentagging you, everybody's been
posting everybody, and I seethat you've been very
interactive with your fans.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I always try to , Because you know social media
should socialize a bit.
No, no, no, it's a social space.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Listen, coming from a person that understands the
warlord himself.
Yeah, I used to be anti-social.
I used to post social media andnever get no prep for
socializing yes socialization orbeing a socialite.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, so this is in social media.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, so this is like a learning process it's a
learning process and, and and,and I'm happy to see that
development because not sayingthat you are, you know, you know
what you say, you are angry andmiserable.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I used to be cross, angry and miserable yeah, but I
grow beyond just being cross andmiserable out of nothing.
It has to take a lot to get mecross, angry and miserable.
You don't just come without across right now.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, yeah, I've noticed you've done a lot and
you've been giving back a lot tothe communities and you're
actually advocating like a realpolitician.
Sometimes I've watched you.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, they said, I'm a social entrepreneur, I'd like
to do the social development.
You know, I like to see peopledoing good socially.
So for a long time I came fromfrom the ghetto and I know
hardship.
So I always try to give backand I always try to contribute
to the society.
And then, recently now, Istarted a foundation in 2018,
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the Bounty Foundation.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I remember that yep.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But that was because I tried to import some beds for
the hospitals and I didn't knowabout concession and I thought
from you're going to give itaway, they're just going to make
you bring it in the countryfree.
But there was some taxconcession for import gas and it
was Miss Bobsey Grange whoreally helped us to get an
(03:22):
exemption from the government tobring in the beds.
So after that, now we decide wehave to form the foundation, so
it would be legally anon-profit organization.
Yeah, we would approach to bringin import things in the country
and it wouldn't have no extracost.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, in import costs .
Yeah, a lot of times we weren'treally educated with that kind
of stuff, we just want to helppeople.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
We just want to help people, yeah, but it takes a
little more than just help.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Bro a lot of paperwork that we don't really
care for but we have to do it,but we ain't getting to that
part yet.
Let's talk about the challengesand tribulations for you, just
to get here today.
It's a lot, because I've heardrumors before that you actually
had a, a visa, but it wasn't aworking permit, and you know
(04:08):
that's a rumor.
That's a rumor.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, there was a rumor going around it's
something that I said on aninterview that I don't want a
visiting visa I'm not a visitorI'm a worker.
Yes, I have something to haveto the culture and people took
it out of perspective.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yo, they ran.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And said I've gotten it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yes, because I heard it, but I know the truth it was
not offered or anything.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's just me make a statement that I don't want a
visiting visa.
I want a work permit.
Yes, because I'm a man who willwork in America.
I don't see America assomewhere to hang out and chill.
Yeah, and if anybody rememberme, I don't chill in America.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I always do my job.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm back home.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yes, I'm Mr Jamaica, mr Jamaica, and I reside there
in Jamaica, in Jamaica, yes, butI love to come to America and
do my work, and please my fansand that's just.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's just the assignment.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yes, 100%, because I just want to clear clear that
because a few people actuallyyeah that's good when you
actually speak to bunty, figureout why he did that, and I me
telling them they don't believeme I know I only have one
american visa.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's a work permit.
Yes, I have no visiting visa.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So, everyone, that is clear, that is clear.
So now, now, now, let, let's,let's, let's, let's talk about
you seeing all your children nowactually growing.
Yeah, and what I mean bychildren, I'm talking about
musical children yeah we'retalking about the wine yeah,
yeah, that's what I thought,yeah yeah.
(05:36):
So I don't, I don't people.
All right, so let me, let mestart from this, because I, I, I
, I know this history and I knowthis business, different from a
lot of people.
So you, as Bunty Killer right,people don't know that.
You kind of I'm not going tosay you started, but to me, for
(05:57):
me, this is my opinion and whatI've seen you've started with
bringing youths on the stage,showing them this, showing them
that, making the teams, makingthem understand like yo, this is
what we're doing.
Get on the stairs, because, asme, seeing bunty killer, I
didn't really see too muchpeople do that for bunty killer
nobody never done that for me.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
No one has ever tried to groom me or mentor me.
You understand, people assistedme, but no one never take me
under their wing and said do itlike this, do it like that, do
it like that.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I get a little advice here and there Am I correct as
I speak right.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah well, I'm not the first person who try to
highlight persons, but takingthem under your wing and guiding
and grooming them, because callon a person on a stage and they
get a little highlight tonightor tomorrow and then the next
week or month nobody sees them.
That's not really helping themto develop.
Yes, just giving them ahighlight.
I took people under my wing yesmy brothers, guide them, groom
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them, assist them financiallyshow them up with the doppler
everything, yep, everything.
I even sacrifice recording forpeople who wants to pay me to
record because they refuse torecord the younger ones, yep, so
it was just something that Ithink of giving back to the
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music and the culture and it allcaused because dandemite was
more like not a mentor, but abrother, a support.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yes, 100%.
Who was there?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
to give me a little advice and suggest things, and I
took it and this is what itcame.
Bounty Killer came from justtwo words of encouragement from
a friend, boom Dandemite.
So that's how I ended upbringing Scare them, because
Dandemite was a part of Scare.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Them.
Yes, he was yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I insist that Dandemite has to become a
superstar.
So that's how it all startedfrom helping and then it became
mentoring, because I never knewI was no mentor.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I was just being a brother.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and then I started to do it and it
became this trend and traditionthing.
So, the alliance came after.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But what I'm saying is in general.
I don't think people give youthe credit like they should.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Some people does.
I wouldn't say I get enough oras much as.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I should.
Can I just give you?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
your flowers right now, bro Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Give me a second, all right.
I personally don't believepeople give you the credit for
what you have done for the nextgeneration.
They know that you did it, butthey don't understand that it's
something that no one taught youto do.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, you did that on your own the type of highlight
I should get for it.
I didn't, but Leave that alone.
I never do it for highlight orfor a reward or any award.
I just do it Out of the wisdomof my heart, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But a lot of people Didn't know you.
A lot of people Never knewBunty actually has a heart.
They always think you were justangry.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm a Tesla gangster, yeah, a Tesla gangster, yeah.
I plug them things in the plug.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
So I just want, as I say.
If I say, I just want to giveyou your flowers right now for
that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's exactly where you came from For that?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Because, remember, we've seen the bunty killer in
Biltmore, We've seen the buntykiller come to New York and
Addis Afrique, this and that,and in the middle of wars and
all kind of thing.
You know what I'm saying.
I was there.
I was there with the Roostersand Rebs and all that, and you
had to stop them and tell themyo y'all chill.
I saw you do that.
(09:36):
You know what I'm saying.
You put yourself on the linefor a lot of things that people
don't give you praise for, and Ijust want to give it to you
before we continue thisinterview.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I just want to give you your flowers.
Thank you, bro, all right.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Everybody give Coach a clap because he deserves that.
Yo, all right and I appreciatethat.
So, going forward now, as inyou gearing up for you know, the
biggest you know show right nowin New York for the whole
holiday New York for the wholeholiday, one of the biggest in
my career.
This is a major holiday weekendright here, and to know that,
(10:14):
you know you are back inside ofBrooklyn also, that's different.
Bk back in BK.
Bk is back and this is whatwe're talking about.
You know BK is Bounty Killer.
You know what I'm saying.
Well, if you know, you know bkis bunty killer, you know I'm
saying.
Well, if you know you know, no,no, a lot of artists impacted
bunty killer, like, like,impacted, like how you like they
want to be this, but buntykiller impacted brooklyn.
(10:37):
I was there, I seen it.
You know I'm saying.
I've seen the sounds War, buntywith Bunty, days, nights.
Come on, bro, what kind ofthat's a different history, yeah
definitely.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We gotta shout out To King Hadiz though Yo All day
Babyface, yeah, wada, itad, wada, itad.
Yeah man, and RIP too.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Uncle Azzy, I'm gonna Wow yeah Yo.
Uncle Ozzy and Gunna, wow yeah,big up the world.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You don't forget anything huh, yeah, you got a
good memory.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It was Addies and Afriksoundstation who started
the Bounty Killer thing.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You understand, and Fergo Digital and Earth Ruler
and Soul Supreme and Young Hawk,because Young Hawk is a part of
it too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, godfather.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, got
Harderweight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Jamie.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And all the other sound systems in New York.
But it all started from KingAdiz and Afrique.
Those are the two first bigsounds came from my dub plate in
92.
Sheesh, yeah, so they startedthis Bounty Killer wave in the
sound system circle.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I think there's no bigger artist in the dub plate
war when it comes to warring isBounty Killer.
I think that's the number one.
Like you can't even go aroundit, bro, everybody get you know,
do that.
But for you to be a sound anddon't have at least five Bounty
Killer dub plates in your box,you're not really a sound.
(12:06):
Well, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's Bounty Killer, yeah, not Bounty Triller.
So it says what it says.
It says what it says.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So now that you're gearing up for the Barclays
right and of course you knowit's going to be a sold out
event we all know that it'scrazy because everyone, everyone
here is talking about it.
We all been pushing it, we allpromoting it.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's like yeah, I see you promoting and giving away
tickets.
Yeah, and it's like it's.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Like you know, CJ even asked me like she just
doing shows right now withpeople that I generally have
great relationships with.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So have great relationships with.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So yeah, she's gonna win for me, regardless if I'm on
it or not.
So exactly that's just how itis for me, you know.
So, cj, shout to you, you'repicking the right people for
your shows.
You're gonna.
You're gonna win what you,what's his, the bros.
You're gonna win with me.
You know I'm saying so.
So going forward now.
Um, people were thinking thatthat you were actually not going
(13:06):
to do a band, so I had a betgoing on right, but why did they
say that?
But the problem was I won tooearly because they did a snip
with you practicing with a band.
I was like damn, he came outtoo early showing them because
they didn't understand thatBunty is a band, bro.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I don't understand why they think we'd go in an
arena with a track no.
No, that's not Bunty, no sometrack's gonna play because some
artist is gonna work on tracks,but I have a return in concert
with a magnitude of this.
It wouldn't be suitable tothose two tracks.
No, unless, I'm going to have aband and then I do tracks in
between if I want to.
(13:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but youdefinitely have a full set of
band Four, yeah, definitelythat's how we work.
A real concert, if it's in alittle club, or yeah of course.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, the tracks could work.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But I would never.
I never did any tracks inarenas.
Are stadiums?
Are those places, unless it'sjust a cameo?
Yeah, yeah five song, threesong no problem.
But if you're gonna do a fullset and this set is gonna be at
least an hour and a half for mebecause there is so much- song I
have to sing a lot of songs.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
There's a lot of songs, a lot of songs that I
haven't sung in years Bro, ifyou know the amount of artists
or themselves or feeling thatactually come into this show,
because you have impacted a lotof artists in this game,
especially New York artists andyou know that too.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You know they're all pulling up for you.
Exactly.
Come on, what do you?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
mean exactly.
You know for a fact, I nevergot a call they're going to pull
up because, listen, this is notsomething where it's like all
right, yeah, man, you might comeI can follow that.
No, this is a person thatcreated history here for us, bro
.
You've created history for usand of course, we have to
support you and show you that weappreciate you.
(14:59):
Thanks All that you've done forus in this culture and people
don't know sometimes that youactually interact, like you
actually answer back.
You're a few artists thatactually answer back when
somebody hits you and talk.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, they are not really people's person, you
understand.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But nah, you're Bunty , bro, like come on.
No, I'm Rodney.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't stay in the Bounty mood Right now.
I I'm just talking about bounty.
I'm more radney than bounty.
I'm more radney than bounty.
Some people more of theircharacter than their personality
.
Yes, bounty is just a littlething that I come up with.
It's not nothing compared to aperson.
Yeah, so this bounty thing canget in between me and
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personalizing with people.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And the alienated behavior with artists like.
I'm more than a person.
You are just a person in abetter position.
Nobody, no more than a body.
We have two and we have twofoot, we have two ears, we have
two eyes.
When you have three, and nowyou have three eyes.
Then you're more than somebody,but you're not more than
anybody.
You got some things.
More than them or you're in abetter position.
(16:00):
But me, no, play superstar.
A superstar is a job.
It's not my character.
I'm always in the hood, if youknow, 20 Comer, jamaica, you
know.
See me uptown.
Yeah, I only live uptown, butI'm not uptown Facts.
So I'm just a people person.
I love people more than mymusic.
(16:21):
Yeah, the music come after, thepeople come first, because
without the people the musicwouldn't work.
Yes, so no career on a music nobigger than the audience.
My friends mean more than theroyalty check and they created
it.
Yeah, yes, we know, make themoney and the film get in front
(16:41):
of the value of a person,especially if one like nari, or
artists in nari who contributeto the development of the
culture, and he doesn't want toeat him back For what?
And Nari's not begging himnothing.
I respect that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He's not some people who are plaguing and you know,
yeah, yeah, people of characterand people with importance.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You have to treat them as it is.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, and I respect that, because that's one thing
you always did.
You always like yo, always likeyo.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I'm a loyal person anybody.
I know we have an understanding.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, all of my old schoolfriends from New York we still
friends mm-hmm and developmentof my career has nothing to do
with it.
When I had ten it's we were forno, I got000.
We're even more of a friend.
So the career began.
(17:31):
A friendship, yo yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That's how I work.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
If I go to Jamaica and Uncle T come check me, the
man who recorded my first song,I'm a virgin, see me.
Yes, anything you want me, I gogive him it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, youunderstand yeah yeah, yeah, yeah
, just what played the firstrhythm for me and he might come
play tonight again, youunderstand uh-huh all of the
people who was there.
They are still on board.
If dandemite was alive, rip tomy brother he would have been
(18:00):
right here in this room Ibelieve that I don't leave none
of my soldier behind.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'm a real general facts, every soldier, I've
noticed that, I've noticed thatand I've seen you.
I've seen you curse them out.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, because you gotta regulate them, check them.
Yeah, that's how a generalworks yeah.
Regulation have to be there.
But you're not gonna reallyleave them behind and eliminate
them.
We just regulate them.
But they know it's for theirown good and for the cause of
the whole doctrine, of what westand for, the fundamental of
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the organization.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
How was the vibe when you was with Movado and Cartel
together?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That was a moment, bro.
No, that was a awesome moment.
That was exceptional.
Yo, that was a awesome moment.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That was exceptional, yo, that was a real moment.
The fact that we are in the US.
All together.
Yo, that was some crazy vibes,man you know, we appreciate you,
buju, Don't get it twisted.
We appreciate you, but it's adifferent vibe when you see Bug
D.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, because me and Buju reunited years ago when he
just came back.
Yes, when you see, yeah,because me and Buju Reunite
years ago when he just came back.
Yes, so it was really thereunification of Cartel and
Mother, and then me there.
What?
As their mentor To see it nowand you there, cause I was there
when they followed up.
And then to see the two of themIn harmony as brother again.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yo, it was just touching.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Man, great moment, great vibes, and I think people,
people seen it but they don'tunderstand.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
They don't understand .
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, oh my gosh, that's what I'll be trying to
say.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, because Bounty and Beanie Clash Was more like a
sport.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Sport match.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, hold it, you understand, it wasn't that
personal Nah Gully and Gazza WarWas something serious.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Serious.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Social disruption Serious.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
You see, them unified .
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's a big thing for us.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Because their era was a little bit.
Not saying that your era wasn'tviolent, but it was more
controlled.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
No, because more people, all right.
The fans used to have moreunderstanding.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Because Bounty and Beanie clash.
People who said Bounty lovesBeanie and people who said
Beanie loves Bounty but theyjust prefer Bounty over Beanie
or?
They just prefer Beanie morethan Bounty, but they just
prefer Bounty over Beanie, orthey just prefer Beanie more
than Bounty, but it wasn't acase where I hate Beanie or I
hate, Bounty it was a case whereI prefer Beanie or I prefer
Bounty.
This era guys.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I hate Gully and I hate Gaza.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I don't know where the fans them develop that type
of behavior towards music, causeyou can't have one artist and
say you love music, you love anartist.
Loving an artist is differentfrom loving music.
Yes, I love several artists,but I have my preference.
Who is more talented ones.
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But it doesn't mean I don't ratethe other ones who have less
talent.
So these people come up withpolitical behavior.
Yeah, like me a Republican, I'ma Democrat, I'm a PMP, I'm a
GLP.
It has something to do withpolitical behavior.
Yeah, like me a Republican andme a Democrat, and me a PMP and
me a JLP, it have something todo with them.
Life, yo, the life, bro.
So it was something veryserious.
So we glad when the twobrothers decide that it's enough
(21:01):
.
It's enough and we just gonnamove on.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And be.
We are big, grown people.
Yes, because they are not kidsanymore.
Nah, nah.
So a big man behavior, the manthey might give them.
Now I'm going to see some badmind fans that cuss it and then
some people that say his money,we do it for bounty killer ever
do anything for just the money?
Nah, nah, nah.
Where on earth people thoughtbounty killer do things for just
(21:28):
money?
I do things where I have to getmy money, of course, but it's
just for the money, or it's areason I'm doing something and
then it bring forth fruits and Icollect for my labor.
Yep, you have to collect foryour labor.
I never come into music formoney.
I came into music to offer mytalent and that's what I'm doing
ever, ever, since my moneydon't make me.
(21:51):
I make money, and my money havenothing to do with me as a
person, me never hype answer.
First thing, I don't ever usethe word I'm rich I just
remember, you was ever rich.
Yeah, yeah, yeah because that'snot an interest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, I'mokay, I'm all right and that's
my interest to be okay and allright.
Rich poor are stranded.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yes, I'm all right.
I'm all right.
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's the thing.
A lot of people are rich andthey're not all right.
They're not okay.
Yep, they are financially, all,spiritually or mentally them
disturb.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yep, mentally and spiritually.
You're right, they disturbexactly so.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That's me.
I deal with monetary things, Ideal with monumental things that
makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So I see, I see like, where you know, I see Khaled
involved.
I see a lot of things going on.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, well, khaled played a big role in getting us
in one space, but Khaledcouldn't make us unite.
If we don't decide to talk toeach other, khaled has nothing
to do with that.
Khaled was the one who put usall on a track and said he
wanted a video and we all agreedto be there and then we all are
going to link up because wedon't have no problem with each
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other.
But it wasn't Khaled who saidwe're on the phone, we'll unite.
No, khaled, bring Jamaican inthe space and Jamaicans know
what to do with themselves.
We're supposed to laugh andgather together like Jamaicans.
Out of many one people, onelove, not that we say.
And then to a mother that beenthrough just like his mother his
son went to prison and he gotreleased and cartel won his
(23:26):
appeal and then I was away for15 years from the us.
All those our deal.
We've been through.
Yes, we should sit and rememberabout gully and god's a fooling
ish.
How we should be celebrating.
Still here and we, okay, stillhere, are we going forward?
yes, so our celebration wasbigger than just going to do the
video for khaled.
(23:46):
So when people talking stupidthings, we just laugh, but most
people they don't have no love,so they can't celebrate love.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So when they see, goodness.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
They have no goodness about them, so goodness is not
good enough, yeah.
So the good ones know whatwe're doing and they appreciate
it and they support it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, because we all support it, because it was a lot
of people who just was like yoand they supported.
Yeah, because we all supported,because it was a lot of people
who just was like yo.
This is Khaled and me thatunderstand the culture they
don't know, they don'tunderstand.
It's not about, and respect toKhaled who loves Khaled.
No, Khaled do his.
Thing.
The big thing that.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Khaled did was putting us all on a truck and
decided he wanted a video andgetting us in one space.
He decided he wanted a videoand getting us in one space.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And that caused all the unification.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So, khaled had a big part of it Because he never said
he want us to unite.
If I didn't want to be on atrack with Cartel and Mavada,
Khaled couldn't make it happenand I'm sure if Cartel didn't
want it, 100% Mavada the wholeof us, because we've been places
where Killer have not left hisdressing room until that person
moves, and everybody who knowsus knows that four person.
(24:54):
The four person has a minorfriend home.
Yes, nobody can make Buju donothing when no one do.
Nobody can make Bonte donothing when no one do Nothing.
Nobody can make Cartel or Movado nothing when no one do.
We have never seen that before.
Yes, so why imagine that?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Nah, you come in the house Because you know what it
is.
It's like a lot of people justfeel like, because it's Khaled
and Khaled, khaled, they feellike everybody's moving towards
it.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
No, but most Jamaicans don't want to help you
.
Nobody, neither.
We never get no producer calledsaying he wants us to get up
and do tracks like those inJamaica.
If they get Bounty and Buju,they're good.
They wouldn't think they need acar to learn a move either,
because they just want a thing.
They're not trying to makesomething exceptional.
Khaled always wants to makethings different and sonic.
(25:45):
So that's why he always pushesthe boundary.
And then he's supporting theculture that support him in his
early stage and we have toappreciate that, appreciate that
so whenever he calls us, wealways turned up to support.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Support support for support, and that's and that's
how it goes.
Support for support to supportme yeah, and that's a lot of
people don't understand thatpart too.
The support goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, when them call Khalid culture vulture, it hurt
me because Khalid been around mefrom 1994 to 95, like 30 years
ago, mm-hmm and he has neverturned his back one moment.
And Khalid loved Dan Sal beforeme know him, that's how I get
(26:29):
attached to him.
When I play on the big stationin Miami, I play in the club,
the temple, and he plays achasse planque.
He's supporting us and he neverused to have dub play at that
time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, when we startgiving him dub, he starts
playing with it.
He played with it before, Iplayed with him.
That's why we get gravitated tohim.
I know say up, so that's why weget gravitated to him and now
(26:50):
say this man, I helped plug theculture and 30 years ago
dancehall.
No big pandem station yeah, youunderstand from the kill billy
and the david leave.
It is them at them time theycall it their temple plug
dancehall for we.
So when him come a fully loadedpeople, my things are the first
that him I enter the culture.
But at the first him does getin a sound clash.
But him used to be doing it inthe club and on the radio, so he
(27:12):
has pays his jews in in florida.
Yeah, and he's still, yeah, yeahturned around in his glory days
and sure yeah, yeah, and that'sthe key.
I mean, if I hear them call meangel is a culture vulture.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Okay, yeah, yeah and I'm not saying they are, but I'm
saying they don't call nobodyelse.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Them call me Angel Lee as a culture vulture.
Okay, yeah, yeah, and I'm notsaying they are, but I'm saying
they don't call nobody else.
That means that they have someguts for calling Gotcha, and
that's clear bad mind.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah Well, you know anything that people don't.
Sometimes they're not a part of.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, they try to talk a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, they try to talk a lot.
You know what I'm saying, soI've been through that.
So when people say certainthings, I just kind of like keep
quiet now and argue True,because it don't make no sense.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
No sense, sense less.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Because, at the end of the day, it's going to help
the culture.
I'm for whatever's going tohelp the culture, whatever's
going to help the culture that'sme and my kids.
This culture helps me throughmy whole life, so I'm going to
fight for it Exactly.
We're going to battle, we'regoing to have disagreements.
It is what it is.
People Exactly.
But if it's helping the culture, I'm for it, If you just here
(28:17):
to tap into culture and keep itmoving.
God bless you.
Thank you for passing through.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Don't come back, though.
Don't come back.
You know what I'm saying?
It is what it is, becausepeople just tap into culture to
win for that moment.
Yeah, you see how it is A lotof people in every industry.
Whenever they start to fadedown, they come to the culture,
and the culture always puts themback up.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Exactly, and then they leave.
Nobody sticks around for 30years.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Uh-uh Nah, 30 years.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So that statement made that up.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I didn't even realize it.
I was thinking more like 99.
I wasn't even thinking 94, 95with Cali bro.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, I knew Miami 180 tourist spots Damn Got that
studio Because I remember theFully Loaded.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I remember going to Miami and meeting him a few
times and stuff like that in hisearly days, you know, when he
was just DJing.
He was a beast.
Yeah, he was a beast.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I ain't gonna lie.
We brought him to New York City.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, the Arab attack ?
Yeah, so, I've witnessed theKhaled.
You know Evolution?
Yeah, yeah, evolution, and it'slike you know what it is,
though it's people that don'tunderstand, like you said
earlier, your loyalty yeah, sothat don't understand, like you
said earlier, your loyalty.
Yeah, so they would.
They would.
They would say things aboutBunty.
Say yo Bunty.
You got this truly boy inJamaica and this and that, and
(29:34):
that, and that.
They don't understand Yo Calthat boy don't work with you.
Know what I'm saying?
I'm coming from, but they don'tknow that Bunty said.
It's not really where you comefrom, it's the loyalty that you.
You know what I'm saying andKhaled been loyal to you and,
just like me, he's way moreloyal than a lot of my Jamaican
friends.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Oh yeah, I can see that I'm not shy to say that.
Yeah, a lot of people that Ibring to the forefront they're
not as loyal as Khaled to me,and it's no problem because you
are who you are.
And it's no problem because youare who you are.
You are who you are.
You can't be what you're not.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I think I'm one of the loyal Bunty killer people in
the game.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I think I'm going to take my own praises on that
right now, no, but you are oneof the lawyers, yeah.
Yeah, who knows, knows yeahwhen.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Bunty says yo man, this is something we need, ever
since you's show in love.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, yeah, of course .
So you know, shout out to Cali.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
After Afreeca we're still great friends.
Yo, it wasn't a music vibe, itwas just.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, it was too personal.
Yeah, you got that music now.
Let me tell you that people thatdon't understand, like if you,
if you know Killer.
So just a while ago, when Iwent to go Greek outside, right,
everyone that knows whenKiller's talking and certain
things, you just gotta wait.
You wait till he gets off thephone.
(30:57):
You wait till he finishessmoking a cigarette, and then
you wait and then he says Wagwan, alright, wagwan, killer.
Yo, you know what time I wentto Jamaica and stood there
banking and just wait for likefive, ten minutes.
He's talking, talking, talking.
And then he look Wagwan, there,I'm there, man, yo, killer, I
(31:18):
ain't going to lie, I've rapedthat with you, bro, I ain't
going to lie to you.
It sounds funny to you, I knowpeople tell you all the time,
but that you look forward thatlike that, that don't change how
you maintain that for so long.
Well, I'm just just to be likethat, bro.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I don't know how to maintain, I just know how to be
myself and stay real yo man, Irate you bro.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I haven't got a lot here, man and I, and I respect
everything you do.
The business, and, and andpeople don't understand it's in
your veins and it ain't goingnowhere till the end of it.
I know you're gonna take thisculture to wherever you gotta
take it Anywhere around theworld and you ain't gonna stop.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
No, I take this culture very serious.
This culture caused me a lot ofconsequences with people you
know, People call me gatekeeper.
No, I'm an overseer, I don'thave no gate.
First thing the internet has nogate.
Music has no gate.
Again, back in the days,jammies' studio used to have a
gate Pentos used to have a gate.
Horace used to have a gate andevery studio had a gate.
(32:21):
Now people have studios intheir kitchen in their bathroom,
in their helper's quarters andin their car.
So how come somebody feel likehe out of music if he can't
record all in a car and then youcan't have your?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I don't care yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And then you can't have your own channel, you can't
have your own vlog, so musichas no gate.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
No gate.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Music is in the air, on the net, out in a cyber world
.
Yes, so I'm not a gatekeeper,but I'm an overseer.
I'm a guardian of the cultureand if you offend the culture,
you offends me and then I mightattack.
But I'm not no one who tryingto borrow nobody.
I'm the first one who came andlet go everybody that I could.
(33:03):
First time I made my label, thefirst thing we put out was
value of death.
Check how many singles on it.
And then you tell me how manypre any persons were a star at
the time yeah, I remember thatwas before scared them crew
burst there wasn't a scared themcrew and put out 30 singles
everybody in a jammies yard, allthe dog, my wife, and that's
(33:27):
what caused me and jammies themto break up because they thought
I was gonna be another johnjaloza or steelie or Cleavey,
some big producer yeah 30singles yeah, I remember that
that label.
Yes, I was the first one to tryto help everybody and bring
forth young ones.
I was the one who encouragedMansa Shaq to become a crew
(33:51):
because Because Ghost was a soloartist, general B was a solo,
ron Head was a solo.
It's me make Scare them Crew.
We was all on the streettogether and working together on
the shows and we said let'smake a crew out of it.
And then you have Captain Barkyand we come on.
Rip, barky worm them crew.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, Scare them Crew Mansa.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Shack worm crew.
Yeah, that's that, and then youhave Innocent Crew.
Innocent Crew yeah, I've seenyou.
Yeah, so it was a trend that westarted.
Yes, we first started group up.
All right, we had the first onego up on stage and ten artists
worked together and me createthat in a bum rush.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the time we have ten,you know, one time you know yes,
momentum and pandemonium yeahwe created that.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
That was a scary style I remember those things we
bring.
When the show are done,everybody does get peace.
Yeah, you understand so it'sfrom back in the days.
We show them all the unity.
When we make alliance, peoplethink we make it to fight other
artists.
We build our crew for supportour surrounding, but we never
(34:53):
fight against nobody becauseAlliance and nobody never clash
Like we have Gully and Gaza.
Alliance never clash withnobody.
It's just Cartel one night timewhen he leave three of my
mother, go at it and Gullyaffiliate it to Alliance.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
He throw the jobs there.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And me, and him and himself go to the war you
understand, I did not want toeven answer Cartel, but Cartel
wanted me to answer it.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Of course he did so he kept pushing it, he kept
going he never did a single song, but he knows I listen to it.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Don't push it, I know , my thing and I know your thing
neither.
We never created our own.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
But it was entertaining, though it was
entertaining.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
It's always entertaining To compete Because
it pushes the talent you know.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, jamaicans love them.
Conflict fooling.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
But that's what the culture's about Sometimes.
Yeah, it comes with the culture, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
But that's not the best Part of the culture.
No, no, no, you understand.
Some people love Make it seemlike oh, when dancehall clash of
the ice element, I lied tomattel, I went, shabba, win two
grammy.
Those are the high points ofdancehall yeah when beanie win a
grammy, when boogey win agrammy, when coffee win a grammy
, yeah, them something there atthe high point now, when we're
clashing on stage and then thesefans have no sense of loving
(36:09):
the music and putting personalfeeling aside, that's why I I'm
not even interested in clashinganymore, because the fans
they're misunderstood and theytake it out of context because
they're always fighting on theartist most of the time.
Yeah, and them people nowadaysare the vipers.
They don't love music, theylove hype and they love clout
(36:30):
and they love attention.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, that clout thing is too much, but them
don't love nobody them even lovethe artists them.
I think a lot of them don'teven love themselves.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
They don't love themselves.
Yeah, that's why them can'teven love the artists when them
claim them love.
Yes, so them would encouragethem to do all type of stupid
things.
All kind of stupid things yeah,I love my fans.
But my fans can guide me andsay stuff and the good ones I'll
pick up, but they cannot leadme.
If it makes sense then I willtake the suggestion, but I'm not
(36:58):
listening the fans to get Iidea or opinion if they make
suggestion and it makes senseyeah I'll make sense out of the
sense yeah, yeah, and thatthat's valid
Speaker 1 (37:09):
that's very valid, so so.
So now that valid.
So now that you're here in NewYork City after so many years,
what are we expecting from BuntyKiller Saturday?
That's what I want people tohear.
What are we expecting fromBunty?
I know what to expect.
(37:30):
They need to know what they'regoing to expect.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
The younger folks might not know, yes, so we'll
have to remind them, but it'salways a magnitude and a
euphoria and a pandemoniumbounty killer.
It's like a bullet, youunderstand?
Have you ever seen a bulletflying straight out?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
of a gun.
Have you ever Imagine that?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's like a bullet out of a gun, and this is one
that fermented and very cure.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
This is one like in the chamber for 15 years.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So when this release when this quiz Yo, lord, so
Barclays going to becomeDarkleys, so you should go get
all your black suits and yourblack boots.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yo, okay, you know how much people are going to be
in black For real.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, you know that right how many shades I'm
wearing my shades right now, bro, all the dark glasses, and all
the shades, and all the bootsand the suits, go, get them New
York Go get them.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
New York, listen Barclays.
This Saturday, the Ward LordBounty Killer returns to
Brooklyn Listen.
Finally, and it's crazy, theyfalls on Independence Weekend.
Yeah, so that is now theofficial.
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
If you can remember history, I never performed in
the States for the Fourth ofJuly weekend before.
I believe that I always try toavoid it.
You know why Pie, pie, pie yes.
This is going to be my first4th of July weekend concert in
the US.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Especially with Bounty in.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
That's why I always avoid that situation.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Over the decades.
All right, I've never worked inManchester, in London either,
and it was because of certainbehavior of the people.
They always going to burst upall the time.
Nobody never thought you wasthinking of safety first.
No, but when it come on to yourfans and your reputation, you
(39:30):
got to really think of safety.
I would have never thought ofthat.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I would have never thought of like July, you know,
f the money.
No, it's for the safety of meand the fans and reputation.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
That's fabulous.
So this is going to be my first4th of July weekend concert
ever.
Wow, yeah, wow, and it makessense for the return.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yo it does make sense Because I said that it was like
it should be a festive moment.
Yeah, and it is what's wrongwith you.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
This is the wall of the general.
This is the general, theoriginal general, the only
general, you know what I'msaying, yeah, and then from
Biltmore to Barclays Bro, from athousand people To 19,000.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Everything would just be.
Everything would just be.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, and we just want to tell all the fans who
used to attend the BiltmoreBallroom kudos to them.
They're flying up Because theyare the foundation of this
fanfare.
Yes, yeah, big up to all theoriginal.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Brooklyn Massive Original.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, man, the whole of Flatbush Big up, the whole,
the whole of Utica Church,regent Nineties, new Lots, 90s,
cronites Van der Veer.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Two Firsts Jesus, st Mark's, st Peter's, you know the
whole Brooklyn, big up theBronx and Queens and Long Island
and Jersey and Staten, buteverybody know BK, bk.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Belongs to BK, bk and jersey and starting.
But everybody know bk bkbelongs to bk bk.
Wallah, thank you very muchthank you very, very much for
passing through and of courseyou know anytime you're in new
york city.
You know my most definitely,you know you have to from being
done.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
We have to come show her face and I appreciate you
and connect with the fans.
Uh-huh.
Now we have to pick up cjmiller.
Now, this promoter, yes, shehas a lot of vision and her
expertise and her contributionis exceptional.
Yes, yes, it is.
Yeah, she's the one who reallysee the vision to help push this
(41:29):
thing To the big stage.
And it it's not easy, it's noteasy, it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's not easy, but we definitely Appreciate her.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
It's a big task for her and we support her and she's
doing it big.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
So we should support her.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah Well, she's doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
She's doing the right thing.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
She's, she's, she's definitely Working with, with
the artists that I 100% support.
So, she's going to get mysupport anyway.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You're biased, but thanks to you, man, big up, cj
Milan and the whole productionteam, I'm keeping it real.
You got to go with your loyalty, bro.
Great things for 2025 andbeyond to come.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Come on, bro.
Come on, but just keep it real.
This is a real platform.
Support those who support you,now everybody.
I'm not saying I don't supporteverybody, some people I just do
my part for them, yeah, but yougot to support who's supporting
you.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
You're right, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Support for support.
Yeah, it's not even about Imean.
No, I play everybody's music, Ido whatever, but who I know I
can count on and they can counton me.
They're always my firstpreference.
Yeah, that's how it should goand I appreciate you.
Kaboom, always, monte Kela theWalla, that's right.
July the 5th.
We are definitely inside thebuilding.
(42:45):
The Barclays is going to be.
I don't even know what to say.
It's going to be man.
I just know that it's somethingthat everybody needs to be a
part of.
The witness and, of course,junior Ryder.
We don't know where my deal is.
Warlord in the building.
We are out of here Another time.
Right here, where yours trulyis your nerd, anything goes.
The Warlord.
Bum to Killer Brooklyn, that'sright.
(43:07):
Stop today, respect Banking.
We are out of here Another time.
Right here, where yours trulyIs your nerd, anything goes.
The wall out.
Bump to kill her Brooklyn,that's right.
Stop today.
Respect Banking.
The crew, everybody Bless up.
We got you there.
Ha ha.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Me die.
Ya Barclays are fire.
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