Into AI Safety

Into AI Safety

The Into AI Safety podcast aims to make it easier for everyone, regardless of background, to get meaningfully involved with the conversations surrounding the rules and regulations which should govern the research, development, deployment, and use of the technologies encompassed by the term "artificial intelligence" or "AI" For better formatted show notes, additional resources, and more, go to https://kairos.fm/intoaisafety/

Episodes

June 1, 2026 81 mins

Today's episode does double duty as an interview and an announcement. Joe Williams, host of the new Kairos.fm show "Beyond the Paycheck: Reclaiming the Case for UBI in the Age of AI," joins Jacob to talk about his background as a freelance translator and how AI quietly dismantled his livelihood in 2025. From there the conversation expands into whether this moment is really different from past waves of automation, who exact...

Listen
Watch
Mark as Played

Zainab Majid, co-founder of Asymmetric Security, joins Jacob for a conversation on the intersection between AI Safety and cybersecurity, as well as the future of digital forensics. Drawing from years of incident response work, she explains how cyber attacks actually unfold, why AI is changing both offense and defense, and how her team is building AI-native tools to investigate breaches faster and more effectively. Other to...

Listen
Watch
Mark as Played
April 6, 2026 91 mins

Technology has been moving faster than policy for some time now, and the advent of AI isn't changing that, so what can we do to maintain safety despite uncertainty? Su Cizem has spent the last few years trying to answer that question. As an analyst at the Future Society, she works on global AI governance, specifically on building international consensus around AI red lines: the thresholds we collectively agree must never b...

Listen
Watch
Mark as Played

Jacy Reese-Anthis, founder of Sentience Institute and researcher at Stanford, began his journey working for animal welfare, but is now finishing up his PhD with research in many different AI subfields at the intersection of neuroscience, philosophy, social science, and machine learning. While this may seem like an odd jump at first, Jacy shares how his work has all been centered around the idea of moral circle expansion. I...

Listen
Watch
Mark as Played

What does it actually take to build a successful AI safety organization? I'm joined by Dr. Ryan Kidd, who has co-led MATS from a small pilot program to one of the field's premier talent pipelines. In this episode, he reveals the low-hanging fruit in AI safety field-building that most people are missing: the amplifier archetype.

I pushed Ryan on some hard questions, from balancing funder priorities and research independence,...

  • Sean McGregor and I discuss about why evaluating AI systems has become so difficult; we cover everything from the breakdown of benchmarking, how incentives shape safety work, and what approaches like BenchRisk (his recent paper at NeurIPS) and AI auditing aim to fix as systems move into the real world. We also talk about his history and journey in AI safety, including his PhD on ML for public policy, how he started the AI ...

  • Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played

    Philosopher Dr. David Thorstad tears into one of AI safety's most influential arguments: the singularity hypothesis. We discuss why the idea of recursive self-improvement leading to superintelligence doesn't hold up under scrutiny, how these arguments have redirected hundreds of millions in funding away from proven interventions, and why people keep backpedaling to weaker versions when challenged.

    David walks through the ac...

  • Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played
    October 20, 2025 71 mins

    Alistair Lowe-Norris, Chief Responsible AI Officer at Iridius and co-host of The Agentic Insider podcast, joins to discuss AI compliance standards, the importance of narrowly scoping systems, and how procurement requirements could encourage responsible AI adoption across industries. We explore the gap between the empty promises companies provide and actual safety practices, as well as the importance of vigilance and contin...

  • September 15, 2025 67 mins

    I'm joined by my good friend, Li-Lian Ang, first hire and product manager at BlueDot Impact. We discuss how BlueDot has evolved from their original course offerings to a new "defense-in-depth" approach, which focuses on three core threat models: reduced oversight in high risk scenarios (e.g. accelerated warfare), catastrophic terrorism (e.g. rogue actors with bioweapons), and the concentration of wealth and power (e.g. sup...

  • Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played

    Andres Sepulveda Morales joins me to discuss his journey from three tech layoffs to founding Red Mage Creative and leading the Fort Collins chapter of the Rocky Mountain AI Interest Group (RMAIIG). We explore the current tech job market, AI anxiety in nonprofits, dark patterns in AI systems, and building inclusive tech communities that welcome diverse perspectives.


    Reach out to Andres on his LinkedIn, or check out the R...

  • Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played
    June 23, 2025 108 mins

    Will Petillo, onboarding team lead at PauseAI, joins me to discuss the grassroots movement advocating for a pause on frontier AI model development. We explore PauseAI's strategy, talk about common misconceptions Will hears, and dig into how diverse perspectives still converge on the need to slow down AI development.

    Will's Links

    Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played

    I am joined by Tristan Williams and Felix de Simone to discuss their work on the potential of constituent communication, specifically in the context of AI legislation. These two worked as part of an AI Safety Camp team to understand whether or not it would be useful for more people to be sharing their experiences, concerns, and opinions with their government representative (hint, it is).

    Check out the blogpost on their find...

  • Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played

    The almost Dr. Igor Krawczuk joins me for what is the equivalent of 4 of my previous episodes. We get into all the classics: eugenics, capitalism, philosophical toads... Need I say more?

    If you're interested in connecting with Igor, head on over to his website, or check out placeholder for thesis (it isn't published yet).

    Because the full show notes have a whopping 115 additional links, I'll highlight some that I think are p...

  • As always, the best things come in 3s: dimensions, musketeers, pyramids, and... 3 installments of my interview with Dr. Peter Park, an AI Existential Safety Post-doctoral Fellow working with Dr. Max Tegmark at MIT.

    As you may have ascertained from the previous two segments of the interview, Dr. Park cofounded StakeOut.AI along with Harry Luk and one other cofounder whose name has been removed due to requirements of her curr...

  • Join me for round 2 with Dr. Peter Park, an AI Existential Safety Postdoctoral Fellow working with Dr. Max Tegmark at MIT. Dr. Park was a cofounder of StakeOut.AI, a non-profit focused on making AI go well for humans, along with Harry Luk and one other individual, whose name has been removed due to requirements of her current position.

    In addition to the normal links, I wanted to include the links to the petitions that Dr. ...

  • Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played
    March 11, 2024 13 mins

    UPDATE: Contrary to what I say in this episode, I won't be removing any episodes that are already published from the podcast RSS feed.

    After getting some advice and reflecting more on my own personal goals, I have decided to shift the direction of the podcast towards accessible content regarding "AI" instead of the show's original focus. I will still be releasing what I am calling research ride-along content to my Patreon, ...

    Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played

    Dr. Peter Park is an AI Existential Safety Postdoctoral Fellow working with Dr. Max Tegmark at MIT. In conjunction with Harry Luk and one other cofounder, he founded ⁠StakeOut.AI, a non-profit focused on making AI go well for humans.

    00:54 - Intro
    03:15 - Dr. Park, x-risk, and AGI
    08:55 - StakeOut.AI
    12:05 - Governance scorecard
    19:34 - Hollywood webinar
    22:02 - Regulations.gov comments
    23:48 - Open letter...

    Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played
    February 26, 2024 30 mins

    Take a trip with me through the paper Large Language Models, A Survey, published on February 9th of 2024. All figures and tables mentioned throughout the episode can be found on the Into AI Safety podcast website.

    00:36 - Intro and authors
    01:50 - My takes and paper structure
    04:40 - Getting to LLMs
    07:27 - Defining LLMs & emergence
    12:12 - Overview of PLMs
    15:00 - How LLMs are built
    18:52 - Limitation...

    Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played

    Esben reviews an application that I would soon submit for Open Philanthropy's Career Transitition Funding opportunity. Although I didn't end up receiving the funding, I do think that this episode can be a valuable resource for both others and myself when applying for funding in the future.

    Head over to Apart Research's website to check out their work, or the Alignment Jam website for information on upcoming hackathons.

    A doc...

    Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played
    February 12, 2024 9 mins

    Before I begin with the paper-distillation based minisodes, I figured we would go over best practices for reading research papers. I go through the anatomy of typical papers, and some generally applicable advice.

    00:56 - Anatomy of a paper
    02:38 - Most common advice
    05:24 - Reading sparsity and path
    07:30 - Notes and motivation

    Links to all articles/papers which are mentioned throughout the episode can be found belo...

    Listen
    Watch
    Mark as Played

    Popular Podcasts

      Hey Jonas! The official Jonas Brothers podcast. Hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas. It’s the Jonas Brothers you know... musicians, actors, and well, yes, brothers. Now, they’re sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.

      Stuff You Should Know

      If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

      Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

      Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

      Dateline NBC

      Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

      Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends

      A weekly podcast where host, Robert Smigel, and a rotating panel, his friends, assist callers seeking help in making something in their real life funnier. Anything. A best man speech, a eulogy, a breakup letter, a cover letter, an apology, a Tinder profile - Robert, with a panel of professional comedy writers and comedians, will punch it up and get results. Want help with your writing assignment? Submit it to: speakpipe.com/humorme

    Advertise With Us
    Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

    Connect

    © 2026 iHeartMedia, Inc.

    • Help
    • Privacy Policy
    • Terms of Use
    • AdChoicesAd Choices