Ep. #754: Daz Smith – Remote Viewing

A U.S. intel program known as Project Stargate explored the use of psychic phenomena, particularly remote viewing, for military and intelligence operations which could still be going on today. Jeremy welcomes Daz Smith to discuss the techniques of remote viewing and his team's efforts in target identification. Plus, updates on fog smelling of chemicals causing illness and another UFO sighting at a military base.

Episode Transcript

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Well, well, well, we are here for another week of
the show, friends, and it's good to have you with us,
somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal. Since we went
off the air talking about the fog, I have heard
from some of you, many of you who are freaked
out and say, Jeremy, thank you so much for telling

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us about this. I haven't heard anything of the kind
in the mainstream news and others, of course, say you've
got your tinfoil hat on right, because I mean, there's
no possible way that this could be. I don't know,
operation of some sort. I mean, not like it hasn't

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been done before. It seems to be. When you point
that out, that does shut a few people up, and look,
it's not about shutting people up, really, it's we're more
respectful than that. It's about, you know, have the information
at your disposal and then decide. And so that's a

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big part of what we do here on the program
is we give you the information in some cases when
we tell you what the people are reporting, because what
they are saying, I mean not just in one neighborhood,
on one message board or Facebook group or community online,

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but people in several states have now said that there
is this chemical fog that is making them sick and
within minutes of exposure. Now, we first reported about this,
of course, last week, and I had to heard about

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it even in the days before that. But then we
started getting more reports and I go, okay, I've got
to say something about this, and of course posted that
on social media as well, and a few folks have
messaged me based off of that post and let me know,
I'm full of beans. So all of these people in

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Texas and Wisconsin, in Iowa and Maryland and Virginia and
West Virginia and Nebraska and Kansas and Oklahoma and North Dakota,
Florida and Minnesota, they're all making it up since towards
the end of the year now into the new year,
all across the country. We can say perhaps this mysterious

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fog is persistent, that it has a chemical odor to it.
Individuals who encounter it say that they are instantly sick.
If you look online, if you care to do so,
it can be a scary place sometimes, I must admit,

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you will find videos of individuals explaining their symptoms. We're
talking about coughing, sore throat, congestion, I irritation, lethargy, loss
of appetite, gut issues. I know we've got what the
quademic going on. I think they're trying to scare us
with COVID and the flu and RSV and what bird

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flu and neurovirus and all of this stuff. But you know,
it's not gonna work on us, especially when we see
the spraying that is going on. That's what's happening here, folks,
this is a deliberate spraying operation. In my opinion. Yes,
is smog not healthy for people, absolutely, you know, and

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vehicle exhaust and the whole nine yards not healthy for you.
That's not what people are reporting here. This is something
new and out of the ordinary and something that is
instantly making people. So it's also bringing back memories of

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a program back in the nineteen fifties, and of course
things that have happened before probably have happened since and
may still be happening today. That's just how I view
the situation, especially when they have names like Operation Sea

(05:32):
Spray nineteen fifty off the coast of San Francisco, massive
amounts of bacteria were sprayed into the air a secret
biological warfare experiment put cities like San Francisco on the

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defense against some sort of bio warfare attack, and of
course to see how they would react to such a thing,
so they sprayed them with massive amounts of bacteria to
see how they would react to that well, and how

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the body would react to that. Right, would we be
able to survive something? And should enough people survive after
inhaling thousands of bacterial spores, which of course happened back
in the Bay Area. In this specific instance, there were

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people who checked themselves into hospital with rare but serious
urinary tract infections that doctors say were caused by this
experiment using a bacteria which can cause respiratory issues, meningitis,
and the list goes on. Now, the Navy, of course

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would say they believed that they was harmless to humans,
but once residents started being rushed to the hospital, they
learned that that was not the case. Look, I think
they knew it was not the case. It was to
learn how much of the spray you would need in

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this case Operation Sea Spray, you would need to know
how much in which to kill someone there, I said it. So, yes,
when we hear reports of this fog going around, it

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does bring back fears of what has happened before, and
that was Operation Sea Spray. You're welcome. Hey, there's been
another military UFI siding Fort Campbell in Tennessee. We'll call
it what it is or not saying drone, but it
was an ORB described as the color orange. I think

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everybody understands what an ORB is, A bright light in
this case described as orange in color, spotted flying over
this military base. It's actually right there on the border
with Kentucky. And on New Year's Day this report comes in.

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Apparently there was a short clip of this, but yes,
there has been another sighting at a military facility, which,
if you say, okay, well, I don't know what to
make of that. Well again when you hear of other sightings,
including those which have actually shut down other military facilities,

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including Right Patterson right here in the United States, and
of course other bases abroad as well, and airports have
been shut down because of what the media is calling drones.
So there's another instance of a what we'll call a

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classic UFO or ORB sighting over a military base. I'm
Jeremy Scott. It's the program that goes somewhere between the
paranormal and the abnormal.

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Into the pair of.

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I am Jeremy's goot somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
You know, last time we were here, we talked about
US Army's study of what's known as the Gateway Process,
And in fact, there is a twenty nine page report

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on the findings called Analysis and Assessment of the Gateway Process,
which was declassified in two thousand and three. It was
written and back in the eighties, and it's become relevant
again after being shared by an individual online and then
going viral, listings tend to do in today's world. The

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report was drafted by Lieutenant Colonel Wayne M. McDonnell. Tonight,
we're going to bring a remote viewing into the conversation
because that is a part of this as well. Something
we could argue what would not actually be possible without consciousness,
which is really what this study looked at. Remote viewing

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can be tied to altered states of consciousness and the
nature of consciousness itself. This Gateway experience was developed by
the Monroe Institute to help individuals achieve these altered states
of consciousness, basically allowing participants to shift their awareness beyond

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the physical world and in doing so being able to
possibly interact with realmside the conventional limits of time and space.
For those who are not familiar, remote viewing is the
practice of perceiving distant or unseen targets using altered consciousness

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and seemingly extrasensory perception. But who really knows how it works,
but it's a technique for acquiring information in unconventional ways.
Remote viewing, for a practical or rather as practical application,
was one of the applications of these altered states. The

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CIA and military intelligence explored that technique for espionage purposes,
and perhaps you have heard the name Joe mcmonagall, often
referred to as remote viewer zero zero one. Well, the

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US Army's interest in the Monroe Institute's method and the
Gateway process was partly driven by its potential to enhance
intelligence gathering capabilities. This study, in particular makes the connection
and how altered states of consciousness explored through the Gateway

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process are foundational to practices like remote viewing. Both rest
on the premise, of course, that consciousness can access realms
of information beyond ordinary perception. These altered states of consciousness

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can significantly distort our perception of time, causing it to
either speed up or slow down, which of course are
experience during emergencies, meditation under the influence of psychedelics, and
in those states, individuals may perceive seconds stretch into minutes,

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individuals having an out of body experience, alien abduction. The
list goes on, but the mechanics of these time distortions
really are unclear. Going back to the seventies, it was
reported that the Soviet Union was investing heavily in psychic research,
and the US well. They were concerned about falling behind,

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so intelligence agencies began exploring the potential applications of psychic
phenomenon for espionage. The CIA's CIA rather operated a secret
government program initiated during the Cold War to investigate utilized

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psychic phenomenon for military and intelligence purposes, primarily focusing on
remote viewing. It was known as Project Stargate and then
operated under various names and organizations before being officially declassified
in nineteen ninety five. Or was it that's the question here?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Now?

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There are several names that you may have heard of
when it comes to remote viewing. Joe mcmonagall one of
those I mentioned. He was one of the first and
most successful remote viewers in the US military's program, claimed
to have accurately described Soviet military facilities and submarines during
the Cold War. Ingo's Swan, of course, often called the

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father of remote viewing, he was a key figure in
developing and formalizing remote viewing protocols and claimed to have
remote viewed Jupiter and described details later that were confirmed
by NASA. Lynn Buchanan was a US Army sergeant and
remote viewer worked within the Stargate project. He specializes in

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what is known as controlled remote Viewing CRV, which aims
to standardize and improve accuracy. Ed Dames, of course, known
as Doctor Doom for his apocalyptic predictions. Dames was also
a prominent member of the Stargate project. And tonight we

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have on the program one of the foremost experts and
historians in the area of remote viewing who is going
to join us as well, and we'll tell you about
him after we come back from our bottom of the
hour news break. But by the way, in addition to

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there being this report that I mentioned from well June ninth,
nineteen eighty three, Analysis and Assessment of the Gateway Process,
where it talks about much of what we have discussed

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over the last couple of episodes as far as consciousness
is concerned. But there was also a draft report that
was posted by the CIA on their website entitled an
Evaluation of the Remote Viewing Program Research and Operational Applications,
dated September the twenty second, nineteen ninety five, and I

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just want to read part of it for you. Studies
of paranormal phenomena have nearly always been associated with controversy.
Despite the controversy concerning their nature and existence, many individuals
and organizations continue to be avidly interested in the phenomena.
The intelligence community is no exception. Beginning in the nineteen seventies,

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it has conducted a program intended to investigate the application
of one paranormal phenomenon, remote viewing, or the ability to
describe locations one has not visited of which also one
has no prior knowledge. Conceptually, remote viewing would seem to

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have tremendous potential utility for the intelligence community. Accordingly, a
three component program involving basic research, operations and foreign assessment
has been in place for some time. Prior to transforming
this program to a new sponsoring organization within the intelligence community,
a thorough program review was initiated. The parts of the

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program review, conducted by the American Institutes for Research, a
nonprofit private research organization, consisted of two main components. The
first component was a review of the research program. The
second component was a review of the operational application of
the remote viewing phenomenon in an intelligence gathering. Evaluation of

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the foreign assessment component of the program was not within
the scope of the present effort, and it goes on
for another one hundred and seventy pages to literally discuss
and come to a conclusion about what the CIA was
up to with what we know as Project Stargate. So tonight,

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remote viewer Daz Smith on the program all the way
from the other side of the Worlds will continue our
conversation when we come back after a news update from
George Henry. I'm Jeremy Scott. Into the Pair of Normal.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
This is pair ofbnormal news. We may finally have an
answer to one of astronomy's great mysteries. Fast radio bursts.
First discovered in two thousand and seven, these millisecond long,
powerful radio signals have traveled billions of light years to
reach Earth. New research from MIT has identified the source

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of an FRB that was detected in twenty twenty two.
It originated from a neutron star located two hundred million
light years away that is surrounded by a dense magnetic field,
which scientists believe is the source of the signals. Astronomers
have detected thousands of fast radio bursts over the past
eighteen years, from within our own galaxy to as far

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as eight billion light years away. I'm George Henry, paranormal news.

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Can you see me and you see me?

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Hello?

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The truth is far stranger that we'd like to believe.
You're headed somewhere between the pair of normal and abnormal.
Into the pair abnormal.

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Maybe we can see, but we just need a third eye,
or as we'll call it, a psychic eye. I'm Jeremy Scott,
somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal. We have never
done a program on remote viewing but once before seven
and fifty episodes. I'm not sure why that is. Maybe

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i haven't had a good guest pitch, maybe I've been lazy.
But nonetheless, when we had our first program many years
ago on remote viewing, we did have the great Lynn
Buchanan here on this program. And if you didn't hear
that program, as soon as we're done with this one

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in your podcast app, just go back and search for
Lynn Buchanan or remote viewing and you'll find it, because
that was a great introduction to the subject. But I'm
happy to have here on the program. As I mentioned,
one of the well, really the foremost experts and historians
in the area of remote viewing. His name is Daz Smith.

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He's worked as a project manager and viewer for some
of the most recognized operators and researchers in the field
of remote viewing. Daz has done extensive research on the
CIA Stargate archives and material covered in ninety one thousand
pages of information that was released on the government's remote
viewing programs. He works for Future Forecasting Group, which is

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the only remote viewing business employing remote viewers. He is
the publisher and editor of eight Martiniz state of the
Art remote Viewing magazine, which covers the latest breakthroughs in
remote viewing from the standpoint of protocol, applications and analysis.
He's also the author of several books and is a
highly sought after remote viewer due to his accuracy and

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artistic renditions of locations and targets. Dad's good to have
you here, all the way from the other side of
the world where it is late in the night, early
in the morning. We appreciate you coming on board.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yah, it's good to be here, and it's good to
chop at the subject of my heart, remote viewing.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
When did Well tell us so how you would describe
remote viewing to someone who is not familiar with the topic.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Absolutely, So we're essentially the same as any inner psyche.
Height there he said that we have agreed when we
become a remote viewer's work within a framework or what
we call protocols that make what we do a little
bit more scientific. So we have these rules that we
work within The first role is that the projects never spontaneous,

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so it's always a planned project. The second rule is
that the remote viewer is always blind to the target,
so he has no information whatsoever before he starts his work,
and when he does its work, he's not like to
have anyone in his vicinity that knows anything about the target.
And then we have an a rule whereas all the
information has to be recorded in some format as usually

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written or actually done on video camera. And then the
final thing that we have is feedback. We have to
have enough feedback for any of the projects to be
able to look at the remote viewers information to then
have a look at it and assess it for accuracy,
to make sure that something intuitive took place.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
So do you have to have a target? Does there
have to have to be this pre set either I
guess place or person? Or can you do this with
an undetermined target? Say, if you're looking for something, somebody
or something, generally the target is there's always.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Something picked in advance if you look at and it's
usually done by a project manager, and in that way
it keeps you as a remote viewer blinds the target.
So what I'm usually just given is is a random
set of four or eight digits numbers as my target focus,
something along the lines of one, two, three, four, that's five, six,
seven and eight, and that would be my focal point.

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I would then go off and do my thing and
report information back. Sometimes we know generally what we're looking at,
you know, so someone will say it's it's a missing person.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
We call this front loading and front mode.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Front Loading when you're using it in an operational sense,
is always very very sparse. So as a remote viewer
arb toad that you know the target might be an
event or for example, it might be a missing person
or you know, a free future forecasting group. We work
a lot of markets for gold, silver, and cryptocurrencies, so
when I'm working a cryptocurrency target, I know that up

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from But that still means that there are over three
million targets out there, you know, and I'm just looking
at one of those three million, so I'm still fairly
blind to which one I'm looking at. It just allows
me then to then to know where to put my
focus into, to pick a select set of tools to
look at financial targets and import financial information for the clients.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
So when did you start doing remote viewing? This is
obviously someone something that someone can learn with training, right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
Absolutely, We're all intuitive, so you know, we all have
an ability within us, a natural talent, and that massively
helps with you know, your remote your skills. But with practice,
over time and dedication to the art, you can also
learn to enhance that natural ability, and that's essentially what
I've been doing for the essentially the past twenty eight years.

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I've been continuously practiced in this art and refining it
day by day, week week by week.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
You had some training, though, in the psychic area that
got you started.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
In this Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
I'm different than a lot of remote viewers in that
I had prior psychic training before I found remote viewing.
So from the age of run about ten years onwards,
I had a very big interest in everything paranormal. Luckily,
I came from a household that was paranormal endowed and
my mother was a clairvoyant, healer medium that ran the

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local Spiritist church, so I was quite lucky to be
brought out with you know, the library of books we
had in our house were psychic self development books.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
So I started training from the age of ten.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
Really formally, I started training in what I call classical
psychic techniques like clairvoyance and mediumship in healing. I started
that from the age of fifteen onwards, and then I
took proper training in that from the age of sixteen.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
For five years.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
So I trained in a lot of psychic techniques before
I found remote viewing. And then once I found remote
viewing coincidental the UFO conference where a guy who claimed
to be working for the US military tracking UAPs back
to their point of origin using remote viewing at that point, yeah,

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at that point it was like, WHOA, I need to
learn this and I've been pretty much dedicated for the
rest of my life on it.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Now, So you've gotten better at this over time? Is
that an accurate statement? Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I have.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
I would say that.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
Where I've got better is that I've got better understanding myself. So,
and I mean, in the entire psychical remote viewing process
is very very subtle. So what I've got better at
over the twenty eight years of doing remote viewing is
I've got better at understanding these very very subtle signals

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that come in and transfer data and information. And yeah,
so I've got better at that. I think my natural
ability stayed the same. I think it's probably the saying
for most of us. But with practice, you know, it's
almost like I've honed the techniques to interpret the information better,
rather than improving a psychic ability itself.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
More to come to Smith, our guest tonight, I'm Jeremy
Scott into the pair of normal pair. He thought I

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was going to gloss over the whole part about using
remote viewing to track the origin of UFOs. Heck, no,
I just knew we had a break coming. Now we've
got more time to talk about it with Danna Smith
remote viewed dot com his website, author of several books.
We'll give him an opportunity to tell us about those.

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Because there's all these drones well sorry, UFOs in this guy.
Nobody knows them to be drones, and we'll talk more
about that tomorrow. But whatever they are, if we could
track them to their point in origin, I'm sure that
there are individuals right now who are trying to do
that through remote viewing. But you actually say that this

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was what remote viewing at least was used for at
one point.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
Absolutely, And on occasion when I'm tasked to look at,
you know, some of these UAP cases out there and tasked.
Look at many of them, including you know, like the
famous ones like Roswell and the Tic tac uap encounters
and nimits and stuff. I to myself have detailed quite
in depth the workings of the craft, how they move

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through dimensional space, and even on occasion I have trapped
them back to to local points of origin where they
had these kind of like forward operating base type facilities
in our solar system.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
As far as how it works, wouldn't have anything to
do with anti gravity, now, would it.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Yeah, most of the craft do.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
It gets complex though, because some of the craft it's
very hard to even call them craft because the the
devices themselves are are sentient like. And then you know
it's under like a living life form that symbiotically works
with the with the people inside and driving the crafts.

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So yeah, it's a very complex subject, as I said,
because you know, the crafter in some cases a laive
or sentient, but in some cases as well or as
in some states of being there actually they can actually
be noun physical as well as being physical.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know, they can change their physicality.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
The reason I ask that is because the individual who
chose to blow themselves up in an Elon Musk vehicle
in Las Vegas has sent an email which has gone
viral on social media and the Internet, and people are
pulling it apart from all directions. Matthew Libelsberger, a Green
Beret suspect in that attack, reportedly sent this manifesto to

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a retired US Army intelligence officer just days before the
car bombing, where he talked about these advanced aircraft being
in our sky switch are being called drones these days,
which he talks about having anti gravity technology.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Your thoughts, I think that's definitely happening.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
We have done some preliminary remote viewing looking at the
events that are happening by accident, because we were trying
to predict what the top news stories were going to
be in December, for example, which is what we do
as part of my company at Future Forecasting Group for
our subscribers, and in that I detailed that the top

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news stories in December were going to be aerial dogfights
between conventional craft and unconventional craft, of course, because I
did that preemptively before the drone.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
When did you do that? Do you remember I did.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
My remote viewingal for that on I think it was
twenty twenty if of November. Yeah, a few days before
officially kind of hit the press and started in a
big way.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yeah, I didn't look at it in.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Depth because it was just like, you know, it's just
like a couple of pages looking at what the top
news stories were going to be in December. And but
I did detail that one set of craft were man
made conventional craft, conventional flying craft, and the inn set
craft that they were dog fighting with were unconventional craft.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
It's a shame at the time, I didn't get more
information on it, really, but yeah, definitely details it up
from interesting.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Okay, what about these other cases that you say that
you have remote viewed, as far as maybe the famous
ones since you mentioned Roswell earlier, were their bodies? Was
their wreckage taken somewhere from the crash site or sites?

Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah, definitely, absolutely, especially on the Roswell crash one. I
worked that one several years ago for Courtley Brain at
the far Slight Institute, and if anyone's interested, the entire
video of me doing that live on a whiteboard blind
to the target, so you know, I don't know what
the target is up front, but that's on that's on YouTube.
In a quick search for Dasamith and Roswell, would they

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can find that and watch that? But yeah, def definitely
detailed the acquisition of non human bodies and technology on
that and in another remote viewing session I did again
several years ago when I looked to Area fifty one,
I would say that some of the technology, biological technology

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and physical technology was appropriated and taken to the Area
fifty one facility.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
As far as these UFOs that are in the skies
and nightly, the ones that are being referred to as drones,
we still don't know exactly where they come from. Might
you be planning an upcoming remote viewing session to investigate
their origin?

Speaker 5 (35:59):
I would have too.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
But the one of the only problems of being a
remote viewer is we can't set our own targets and
we have to try to be as blind as possible,
So I have to wait for someone. I have to
wait for someone to give it to me as a target,
and we tend not to have people project manage and
give us targets that are a very big current affair
events at the time of getting Yeah, because it would

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be too odd, you know, if someone said came to
me tomorrow said, oh, I got a really urgent target
for you to do, you know, and then they gave
me a random number. The very first thing that we
pop in my mind right now would be someone wants
me to have a look at the drones. So it
would be very hard to fight that imagination process.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
And what is the significance of the number.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
Again, it's just it's really just for admint purposes, just
something for the remote viewers to kind of use as
a focal point to focus their intent upon. But also
it's good for you know, for just admin, you know,
because if the target was let's say the target was
you wanted me to look at the Eiffel Tower in Paris,

(37:07):
you can't tell me that because you know, the remote
viewer has to be blind. So we hide it behind
the random number. And it just means that if we
have to talk by email about you know, when when
when when you need the RV session data in you know, deadlines,
all that kind of stuff, we have a project name,
and the project name will be the random the assigned
number one, two, three, four or whatever that would be,

(37:28):
rather than you know, us having a discussion about the
target being the Eiffel Tower, because obviously if we're having
an open discussion about it, then it's not blind to
the remote viewer.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Okay, so explain your process, because you do it in
a way that other remote viewers don't necessarily do, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
I was taught CRV, which is called controlled remote viewing,
and it's a process that came out of Stanford Research
Institute and the military, and it's essentially a technique they
talk soldiers or essentially how the psychic spy. So it's
a six stage process. Really, I don't go into any
kind of weird altered states of consciousness or anything, and

(38:09):
it should just sit at a table with a cup
of coffee and on my mobile phone, I have like
a soundtrack the Interstellar playing, and I go through what
we call a six stage process, and with each stage,
we open what we call a hypothetical aperture to the target,
and each stage allows more and more detailed information to
come through, and essentially works in a way that I

(38:31):
just sit there with a stack of paper and a pen,
and I essentially start off with a quick doodle and
that doodle gets me kind of like target access, and
then from that little doodle, I can start getting really
basic sensory data.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Light.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
You know, the target's hard, it's solid, it's you know,
it feels like it's metallic, it feels slick, it's gray,
it's slippery.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
That kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
And slowly, slowly over time, through a six stage process,
we tried to describe the target in as much detail
as possible, using words and pages of sketches.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Interesting. So if it were, say, the Eiffel Tower, would
we would expect that something on the paper that was
drawn would resemble the Eiffel Tower. Once we're all said
and done.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
Generally, yes, I'm pretty well known for doing good sketches
of targets. But you know, there are other people out
there that bring other skills to their remote viewing. So
you know, they might not be so good at sketching,
but their word play might be better than mone would be.
So there were descriptions of targets might be better than
my sketching was.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
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Into the Pair of Normal with Jeremy Scott.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
I'm Jeremy Scott and he's Das Smith, our guest tonight.
As we venture into the topic of remote viewing. This
is something that the government has spent a lot of
money in right over the years as investigating seems like
a twenty year program. Alo I said, did it really

(41:53):
ever end?

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (41:56):
The the American well the American governments, I should say,
in total, I think they spent running about twenty two
minion over a twenty three year history from nineteen seventy
two to ninety five when they went public with it. So,
I mean, it seems like a lot, but you know,
when top secret programs were involved there, twenty odd minion

(42:19):
is a scratch in the bar.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Really, But do you think that it did end in
the late nineties.

Speaker 6 (42:28):
Well, they officially claim to have ended it the CIA
when it was handled over, the CIA terminated the program.
But we have heard rumblings from people that are still
involved in the program over this past year that there
may have been extra programs that were folded out in

(42:49):
some way. So yeah, we are starting to here rumbles
that there are ongoing projects. And that's the first time,
you know, I've heard that in quite a few years.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Individuals have recently come out of the woodwork saying that
they are currently involved in a government is sponsored or
paid for remote being program.

Speaker 6 (43:09):
Yes, absolutely, they don't detail who's sponsoring it, but they
are kind of indicating or hinting out ongoing programs.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yes, so tens of millions of dollars maybe by now.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
All I know is, you know from my research on
the original Stargate program from seventy two ninety five that
that was to the tune of I believe twenty two
million at that point, I we don't know what's what's
being spent today or by whom, If anything's ongoing at
the moment, I would assume it's gone down the route
of the UAP programs, and you know there'll be like

(43:50):
special access programs under consultancies to outside corporations in that
kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
I would have thought very interesting, now you were telling us.
In the process of doing this, sometimes you stumble on
things by accident, which means you don't know what the
target is and maybe you don't hone in on that target,
or you do, but you also hone in on another

(44:18):
something that was unexpected.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Yeah, that happens to us more often than not.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
To be honest, and especially as part of working for
the people, I work for a future forecasting group. We
had several instances of this that we recorded for our subscribers,
including we were meant to be looking at again. We
were blind, so we didn't know this at the time,
but we were. They were trying to get us to
look at a future medical technology. This is probably about

(44:48):
eighteen months ago, and all five of us as remote
viewers kept missing the target. But we all kept describing
the same thing, and it turned out that we were
all described the preemptive Israel Palestine war situation and invasion
kind of thing that happened.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
We were explored.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
We were actually the identity describing this two or three
months in advance. And that's because we think that within
the remote viewing process, sometimes the process itself gets a
bit bored at looking at some things, and it goes
out and finds what we call luminous events in time
and space, and those attract us more than some of

(45:29):
the targets that were sent against, which you know, are
a little bit boring.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
At times, the process gets bored. Is that a case
of the mind wandering or something.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
We don't really know, because we don't know how remote
viewing exactly works. I kind of digging into this for
twenty seven years plus now I'm starting to believe that
the actual process behind remote viewing might have a sentience
of itself, and it likes to play tricks, likes to

(46:00):
have a trickster effect on us every now again.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
So, yeah, we don't know how it works. We don't
know if this is like esp or if this is
psycho psychokinetic stuff or psychic abilities or just I mean,
there's no way it can be coincidence, right.

Speaker 6 (46:22):
No, definitely can't be coincidence, you know, because there are
millions and millions of trials on record.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Now it's very hard. We still don't know how it works.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
I think that science is getting close to proving that
it's probably something to do with, you know, quantum entanglement.
You know, all information in the universe being available everywhere
at any one time, and that's how, you know, how
they're starting to get quantum computers to work where they
can communicate Kate particles can communicate anywhere in time and

(46:53):
space and across vast distances at time and space instantaneously.
So I think as humans we just have access into
this quantum entanglement network that people have been describing for many,
you know, many thousands of years, but not in technical terms,
so I mean, this is radio.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
But describe if we were watching one of your videos
of a remote viewing session what it might look like.
I'm somewhat imagining a mad scientist where you're scribbling in
a mad dash on the paper because the information is
just continuing to flow. I mean, is it anything like.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
That yeah, it's probably a little bit like that.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
So I'm sat there with just I'll use a tablet
and you know, and a pen nowadays rather than paper,
and I literally just sit there and I'm essentially just
writing impressions that are kind of bubbling up through in
my subconscious and as I said, you know, as a
remote viewers, I'm trying to use my normal senses of
you know, taste, touch, smell, all that kind of thing

(47:57):
to describe targets. So I'll be sat there thinking of myself, Okay,
if I if I touched the target, what would it
What would it feel like to my hands? And then
you know, the very first impressions that bubb it up
is what I write down. So you know, it might
be hard, it might be solid, it might be textured,
might be very rough. And then you know, I'll say
to myself, okay, what color is it? And they'd be like, okay,

(48:17):
it feels like it's gray, it's black, it's white, it
feels like I asked golden stripes on it. And then
I'll say to myself, okay, what does it smell like?
If I smell it, it smells metallic, if smells sour,
smells a bit salty. So you're essentially just asking yourself
questions and then answering those questions with very basic descriptions
which then develop into you know, sketches and more advanced

(48:39):
sketches and sometimes even three D models of the target.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
So when you're writing this down on this canvas sort
of speak, you can go through multiple pages.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
Yeah, I would typically on a on a typical project,
I would go but I would probably do between twenty
and one hundred pages, you know, standard pages of information
in text and sketches, and.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Then that information obviously gets what scanned and sent sent
off digitally.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yeah, absolutely, so you know, they would be then that
would all be compiled as a PDF document which would
then go off to the project manager. And then the
project manager might come back to you and he might,
you know, if he wants more information, he might say
something like, on page six you draw a sketch, get
me more, or on page ten you wrote this word,

(49:35):
explain it more, or get me more on this.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
You know.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
So they won't lead you, but they'll they'll task you
on your own information that you've got to go back
in maybe to get stuff that you've you know, you've
you've missed in the process.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Okay, so you can go back in and collect more data.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
That was another question I had absolutely, Yes, Yes, in
most In most cases where we do what we call
deep lives in the in the projects, I usually you know,
and when I when I'm involved as a project manager,
I will send I will send the remote viewer back
probably about two or three times to get information that
they may have accidentally missed.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
All right, Morena, come into the pair of normal. I'm
Jeremy Scott. Somewhere between the pair of normal and the app.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Into the pair of normal, pair.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Of Our guest tonight on into the pair of Normal

(50:52):
is Daz Smith. His website remote viewed dot com, his
books remote Viewing nine to eleven, Remote Viewing Dialog, CRV
Controlled remote Viewing available as they say, wherever books are sold.
We've got links up to those at pair Ofnormal radio
dot com. Also do a website in social media and

(51:12):
definitely check out Future Forecasting Group. All right, Yes, as
far as going back for more is it because well,
in that case, the remote viewer still doesn't know what
the target is, right.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
Yeah, absolutely, they're not to uh you know what the
target is until the entire project's completed, everything's been handed over,
and the project managers.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Called time on it.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
The project manager will only task a remote viewer to
go in on data that they've already received, but just
to you know, go in and get get even more
death because there's a remote view you see, I don't
know what I'm looking at any point. I'm just rambling
writing what's come into my subconscious So sometimes, you know,
I may miss something in a sketch or in a

(52:04):
word or something, and that's when we get retasked to
go back in and delve and get a little bit
more information on.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
It, right, And and can that work the opposite way?
Can it make this situation more more cloudy? Or is
it always or most of the time always you know,
born more fruits?

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Or to speak.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
From the perspective of the real viewer, It's interesting in
that the vast majority of targets that I've worked, when
I've got feedback after it's finished on what the actual
target is, it's never quite what I thought I was
describing in my mind, although my data always seems to
be very accurate. Yeah, the the image I have or

(52:48):
the kind of growing feeling I have in my subconscious
is pretty much never exactly what the.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Target is interesting, all right, does talk about some of
the individual event that you have remote viewed over the years.
I'll let you pick one, because you probably have some favorites.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
God, wow, there's so many. I mean, one that's fresh
in my mind is one that came true today because
a through future Forecasting group, every month, me and the
other remote views we tried to predict a month ahead
what the top new stories are going to be. So
in December I tried to, you know, write ten pages

(53:34):
of information on what I thought the top new stories
were going to be in January twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
One of those ones I.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
Detailed on that was that there was going to be
an earthquake event south of me in an area that
was Asia related, which had a big peak or volcano
or a huge mountain range that was involved in the area,
and it was going to be a seven. It was
going to be an over seven plus on the earthquake scale.

(54:02):
And that happened just a few hours ago on the
coast there in the power where several hundred people unfortunately
died and stuff. So, you know, I do all this
kind of stuff all the time. So that that's the
one that is obviously more stuck in my mind right now,
because that's literally I predicted that, you know, eight days ago,

(54:23):
and the events just come true over the last four hours.
And the plane crash, yeah I did.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
I did.

Speaker 6 (54:30):
The big plane crash. Well, to be honest, there were
like four plane crashes last month, weren't there, So yeah,
it could have been any of those really, but yes, again,
that was the same kind of situation.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
A month in advance.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
I was looking at the news and I predicted that
there were going to be a major plane crash in
an area and people would die and all that kind
of stuff. Last month, I also predicted the CEO that
would get shot in New York.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
I said there was going to be a yeah, yeah,
I did.

Speaker 6 (55:03):
I said that one of the top new stories for
that month, there was going to be an assassination in
a in a well known urban city. A man was
going to be shot from behind by another man close
by with a handgun, and it was an assassination attempt.
And you know, we had the CEO that that they
got killed by that that guy over the healthcare stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Wow, does it freak you out a little bit when
this happened. Sorry, does it freak you out when when
you you know, remote view this stuff and you put
it out there and you know there's a there's a
time stamp on it, and then it comes to fruition.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
Yeah, a little bit, you know, when when things happened
like I got this morning and saw that there was
an earthquake, and I predicted an earthquake, you know, to
the number I predicted as well, which was seven. It
was a seven point one. I said it would be
a seventh. Plaus you know, you do get a little
bit of shock. You're like, whoa, you know, you know
this thing.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
That's he works.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
But it's you know, for example, for Future Forecasting Group,
I've been doing these monthly predictions a month in Evans
now for eight years. So that's literally, you know, thousands
of these we've done now that we put out in
advance for the subscribers. So it's to be honest, it's

(56:21):
it's like a day to day job for me.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Really. Did you also hone in on the incident that
happened in what they were saying was this friendly fire
incident over the Red Sea?

Speaker 5 (56:37):
I think I might have been on that as well.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Yes, yes, kind of hard to be honest, It's kind
of hard to keep track of how many we do
because just on the news ones alone, I do ten
a month, and I'm running over a free year assessment.
I'm running an accuracy of sixty five percent. So if

(56:59):
I do ten a month looking at you know what's
going to happen as top news stories, six to seven
of those will turn to be turned out to be
correct on a roading month by month basis. So to
be honest, I do these every single week and every
single month that they all kind of merge into one
for me, you know, because for me, this is just

(57:19):
like a day to day job.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Really, okay, I mean I have so many things that
I that I could ask you about. What are the
things that I have been interested to see how it develops?
Is artificial intelligence? So as far as AI is concerned,
what does remote viewing tell us about AIS in the future.

(57:43):
Is this going to be a situation where they eventually,
you know, take over the planet or do we work
hand in hand with them?

Speaker 5 (57:51):
That's a good question. I'm not sure I've seen any.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
Solid remote viewing sessions on that at this point, it
hasn't been tasked to us I did do a project
where I tasked some remote viewers to look at one
of Google's ais, and that was when it's engineer, I
think it's around about eighteen months ago, came out and
said that he felt that the AI was sentient. So

(58:16):
I got them to look at that to see what
they felt that I think right about it was a
bit mixed data. I think half the remote viewers felt
that it wasn't sentient, but half the reviewers felt it was.
But that's I think that's the only time so far
that I've seen a remote viewer test against leaving AI related.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Okay, so you've already predicted one major news event that
has already come true here in twenty twenty five. Are
your predictions out there for the for the public to
see right now?

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Yeah? I put them on.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
I put them on X and I also every month
I put a you know, I run through my RV
in advance on a video on and put that on
TikTok so they can they can see all those, you know,
so they can see that I predicted and advanced the
drone stuff that happened in massively in December. The guy
that got shot in December in the head all that

(59:12):
kind of stuff and many more.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
Ones.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
The ones that are outstanding for this month so far, well,
we've the earthquake ones happened. One of my major ones
was that one of these drones or a stealth plane
type object with it looked like a drone, but very dark,
very black, very stealth, was going to be shot down
in an altercation with a with a non conventional spherical craft.

(59:40):
So I'm expecting that to happen.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
We've supposedly already had one of these objects crash, and
now there has been an actual collision, a mid air collision.
I think we'll save that for tomorrow night on the
program Attack Drones tomorrow night, So looking forward to that.
But tonight it's remote viewing with Das Smith. I'm Jeremy

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Scotts into the parabnormal.

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It's part asteroid, part comet, and according to new findings
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Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Remote viewing is the ability to perceive details of a
location or an activity that is otherwise shielded to you.
It was very important for the United States to be
able to investigate whether or not this had intelligence capabilities.
I got a strong visual of an alien in front
of me.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
If you developed this capability, it's going to inform an
influence every part of your life.

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Is it really possible to see through someone else's eyes
or sense through that sensus?

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Actually we're not sure exactly how it works, but it
is possible to report.

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On the position or place that they're located.

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in the night after that, all right. I mean, there's
a couple of different thoughts that people are our writing
into me and telling me that they have because of

(01:03:02):
the drones, which are that you know, this is terrorism related,
either it is to find bombs or it is delivering bombs.
That these are US craft that are trying to basically

(01:03:22):
sniff out some of this stuff. I'm also hearing that
people are believing this is going to usher in the
UFO disclosure that we've been pushing for decades, and others
say that this is a sign of an imminent alien
invasion or an alien reveal. I know that remote viewing

(01:03:48):
sessions have actually been done on disclosure and on the
topic of, you know, a first contact scenario. What have
you found? Have you found found as far as the
UFOs are concerned the disclosure aspect, is our government ever
really gonna come clean? Or are they just going to

(01:04:12):
continue this cat and mouse game where they just continue
to only release so much information and what they release
is you know, elementary, it's it's amateur hour.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's good questions. And unfortunately I haven't been
I haven't been tas yet to look at if disclosure
will happen and what will happen with disclosure. All I've
been tasked to look at are some of the you know,
the major events themselves, like you know, several times I've
been tasked and I've run people myself as a project

(01:04:49):
manager trying to find out what kind of things are happening,
like the skin Walker ranch and you know, the technology
is involved there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
And so tell us about some of those that you
have remote you Skinwall crrange is really interesting I've run.
I I've been a remote viewer working of blind projects
on that and I've also been a project manager tasking
removiewers to look at the skinwall arrange, and in both cases,
using myself and other viewers, it seems to indicate some

(01:05:19):
very strange activity there with you know, kind of like
portals and doorways and all the technology that seems to
be involved does seem to be more non human than
anything else in that regard. That is a very very
odd place. A lot of weird stuff happens out there
in Utah. No longer owned by Bigelow, but it was

(01:05:40):
for a time for research and now has of course
changed hands. Your group, though, did recently look at a
film that came out in the nineties, apparently from a
government agent who got his hands on a video of

(01:06:01):
what appears to be an interrogation of some sort of
I would say, non human entity, whether we want to
call it an extraterrestrial biological entity or not, certainly looks
alien to me. It is a graphic video and at
one point shows this being actually gasping for air and

(01:06:25):
the personnel being brought in and then basically the video
ends and we don't know whether this alien, as we'll
call it, survives or not. Now that video has been
on the internet for you know, thirty some years now,

(01:06:47):
and there's been a lot of investigation that has been
done on that since that time, and recently your group
was in contact with John Stewart, who did the Alien
Interview film in which he tries to find out, well,
who is this information agent? You don't necessarily look so

(01:07:09):
much into that, but you do take a look at
whether or not the film was actually real, and if
it was real, who might have been behind it. I mean,
those are questions that I have. I don't know if
you can answer that, but was this a real alien being?

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
What do you say?

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
Yeah, that was a very interesting project, a very recent
project as well, and John kingwist as a client wanting
to know if we could help validate the film in
any way. So yeah, I wasn't a remote view on
that when I was the project manager. So I tasked
some of my best students to look at that as

(01:07:51):
a case and we picked the moment of filming itself
to see if we could determine, you know, if there
were people moving puppets and camera men and sang people
and all that kind of stuff involved in a production,
or if it was you know, showed what it depicted,
which was like an interrogation of a non human And

(01:08:13):
I have to be honest, I went in there into
the whole project a little bit of skeptical, thinking, well,
wonder what we're going to get out of this, you know,
is it going to end up being fake or not.
But the remote viewers did an amazing job in describing
what can only be described as an interrogation of a
non human life form that was very sick. But not
only that, what interested me more was that all the

(01:08:37):
remote viewers described details of a crash recovery event before
the interrogation event, which shocked me, to be honest, because
and it made me think that the film might have
some validity behind it, because I couldn't work out, you know,
if it was a fake piece of film that was
faked in a studio somewhere, why I couldn't work out

(01:08:59):
why my remote viewers would all describe a very similar
crush recovery retriever or event, you know, because that wouldn't
need to be it wouldn't need to be faked in
any way for the video production itself. So that very
much interested me and kind of slightly changing my mind
on that film being a little bit more valid and in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
This case and in all cases. In fact, you have
multiple remote viewers. Who I mean, we do this remotely.
They call it remote viewing. But in this day and age,
through the Internet, we you're really able to do this remotely.
And so everybody is in a different location and what
they're all doing their individual session independent of each other.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:09:46):
Yeah, So I picked the team and then I send
that an email, you know, with the random number for
the target.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
All right, we have to take our final break. We'll
continue our conversation with a Dada Smith. Remote Viewed dot
com is his website feature for casting group. I'm Jeremy Scott,
somewhere between the paranormal.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
And the abnormal. Into the pair of normal, pair of normal.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I'm Jeremy Scott into the pair of normal with Das
Smith tonight. All right, as far as the alien interview
is concerned, and again John came to you, told you
what he wanted, and then you you know, you didn't
relay that information to your group, but you assembled multiple
remote viewers. And of course everything's remotely now because of

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the Internet, and of course remote viewing is part of
the name. But in all sense of the word, this
is done remotely, and so each one of these remote
viewers that you put to this task are in their
own locations doing their own independent sessions. Right, absolutely, yes, yes,

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John came to me. We both decided what the target
would be. I assigned it a random number. Then I
sent the random number to my team of guys and said, hey,
please work this. Here's the target, here's the deadline. Get
your remote view into me a SAP. And as I said,
they're in different parts of the world, from the US
all the way to Australia. All right, tell us about

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some of the missing persons cases that you have collaborated on.

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
Yeah, I haven't done any of those for a number
of years now, but I did work well over two
hundred and fifty missing person cases for an organization in
the US called Find Me Group. Essentially, that's run by Kelly,
who's an ex DEA agent and he acts as a
go between between remote viewers and psychics and law and

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horsement agencies. So essentially, they had these cases where they
don't know where to go. You know, the case is
pretty much becoming a code case. So as a last
resort they turned to psychics and remote viewers. They turned
to Kelly. Kelly then sets us to target. We go
out to see if we can try to find where
the missing people is and give our details, usually in

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the form of a GPS coordinate because that's all.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
The police want.

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
Office really to the place and in a small proportioned
cases I think run about three percent of cases we
helped identify and find missing people for the peace, and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
You're bringing closure to the family as well, which is.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the most rewarding thing in
all the all the psychics that worked with Kelly and
the Finally group at the time, bear in mind I
haven't done it for a while now. With them, everyone
worked gratis on cases like that. I left after I
think five years doing it because after doing five years
and over two hundred and fifty cases month in month five,

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it started to get a bit of a bit of
a psychological called drag on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
To take a break in order to stay sharp. Would
you say, yeah, I definitely think doing that kind of work.
If I ever went back to it, I would make
sure that there were adequate breaks.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
At the time, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:13:24):
I just went ahead first into it, and that's why
I've taken quite a few years off since, because it
became you know, a little bit much because there's a
lot of trauma involved when you're seeing essentially people being.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
Murdered and killed and mutilated quite a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Right, You certainly are not immune to that and bear
the grief and the trauma from from living through that
and writing it down and going through that. That that
can be traumatizing, and that's happened to other remote viewers
as well.

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
Right absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:14:00):
Yeah, we have to be very careful as remote viewers
what we're you know, what we're tasked against, and we
all you know, and the whole ethical and trust relationship
between remote viewers and taskers is very complex because, as
we've discussed, a remote viewer has to be blind to
the target, so you have to trust that the persons

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setting the targets to you is going to do so
in an ethical manner that isn't going to damage you
or damage anyone else about the target as well.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Right, Yeah, So appreciate you coming on the program tonight.
We could we could probably spend a few more hours
going into some of the remote viewing sketches that you've
done over the years. That is, if you can remember them,
because you've done so many of them.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
It does become a lot after a while, day and day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Yeah, absolutely, So how do they follow you out there
in internet land?

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
They can find me on X. I'm remote viewed on X.
That's the easiest place. And then, as you said earlier,
Future Forecasting Group, if anyone's interested in what we do
there with our monthly predictions, and we also predict you know,
stock shares, cryptos or all the markets for people as well,
so that they can make informed decisions.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Das really appreciate you coming on the program. Thinks so much.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
It's been fun. It's been great shotting with you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Absolutely, you know. And as we were talking about earlier,
we've been hearing, well, this whole eminent thing on you know,
alien invasion for I mean some time that has been
the that has been the announcement, or that has been
the word out there, is that there was going to

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be some announcement and that it was coming and that
it was imminent and all of this sort of stuff.
I was hoping that there had been some remote viewing
done on that and we might actually have a date
and might actually be able to find out how this
is going to happen, if aliens are going to come

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down and land on the white house lawn, because it
seems like that's what needs to happen for people to
believe that, you know, this thing is real. But I
don't think it's going to happen that way. However, if
there was some sort of imminent revelation that was going

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to be coming our way, now would be the time
to do it. I mean, everybody has their eyes to
the sky. Imagine if the sky really lit up, opened up,
and a massive mothership you know, started appearing over major
cities and you know, not talking about school bus sized objects,

(01:16:47):
which is what some people are reporting, or the size
of SUVs or small cars. Certainly not drones, or if
they are drones, they're not the drones that the majority
of people can afford to get their hands on, which
means they are sophisticated and probably maybelong to a government

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or to a shadow government. Color me a conspiracy theorist.
It wouldn't be the first time. Friends. But now Stephen Greer,
whether you respect the man or not, we had a
clip from him coming back from the last the break

(01:17:34):
previous in which he was talking about remote viewing. Because
Stephen Greer does remote viewing, it's part of his CE
five protocols. But he has suggested that what is happening
right now with these UFOs or lights all around the world,

(01:17:54):
not just on the East Coast. When people say, hey,
have you heard of the drones in New Jersey? Yeah,
and the twelve or fifteen other states and several other countries.
I mean, make sure that this is being stated accurately.
It's not just a one state or two that are
that are experiencing these. I would call it an invasion.

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I'm not sure if it's an incursion yet if they
start attacking nuclear facilities, because they have been paying quite
a bit of attention to nuclear facilities as we've reported
on this program, and military basis Fort Campbell the latest.
So whether or not there is going to be an

(01:18:45):
alien invasion or not remains to be seen. This is
certainly a UFO invasion because these are unidentified flying objects
and they are invading our airspace. They're not always seen
on radar, and they are not behaving in the way

(01:19:08):
that ordinary craft would. We're going to go more into that,
as I mentioned next time on the program. So make
sure you're here for that, because I've got two gentlemen
who really know their stuff and they're going to come
here and tell us what they think is going on
and what they know to be the case. Actually from insiders.

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So that's tomorrow night on the program. But Stephen Greer
does say this situation is going to escalate in the
next thirty days or so. This was as of the
first of January, so by the end of the month.
Says that the supposed alien invasion is a cover up
to hide the real truth about extraterrestrial encounters, which he

(01:19:53):
alleges have been happening for several decades. Another person talking
about an alien invasion, it just makes you wonder. Friends.
From the cold dark depths of a secret dungeon somewhere

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deep in the remote Pacific Northwest, I am Jeremy Scott.
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appreciate that. From the cold dark depths of a secret
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somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal. Keep your eyes
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