Ep. #756: Drew Bankey – Drones & terrorism plus UFOs, consciousness and psychedelics

Theories on what the drones are doing took a darker twist when an email circulated online, allegedly from the man who detonated a bomb in Las Vegas, claiming the craft are gravity-controlled propulsion systems from China. Jeremy welcomes Drew Bankey to discuss whether these drones are being deployed to detect bombs and terrorists. Additionally, we’ll talk about UFOs, their link to consciousness, and how psychedelics can be used to access alternate states of awareness.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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We interrupt our program to bring you this important message.

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A confirmed attack is taking place against the United States.

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Aliens from an unknown location have been reported in multiple states.

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We are controlling transmission.

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There is another world that awaits, far beyond what we
can see and feel, of a place that's anything but ordinary.

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Would you believe.

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I do not think.

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Step into the sound of the first time.

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Know.

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The most alike conspiracies, and cover into the.

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Speaker 8 (00:58):
From the cold, dark yeps of a secret dungeon somewhere
deep in the remote Pacific Northwest. Good evening, and welcome
to the broadcast and somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
You know, we do live radio, however, many nights of
the week k it is, and sometimes we expect our

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conversations to go in certain ways, and sometimes we expect
them to go in other ways, and sometimes we fail
to do so. But we do our best to get
to the subject material that we promote on a nightly basis.
We promoted so much subject material tonight, I'm worried we
might not get to it all. But actually I think

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we'll have plenty of time in which to talk about
it all. And I don't know whether or not there's
a connection between any of it. We'll leave it on
the table sort of speak, for you to decide once
all is said and done. I do want to bring
your attention to a few things because I find them
personally interesting. Maybe you might be interested in them as well.

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January thirteenth, that is Monday, there's a couple of cool
things that are happening, in my opinion, a few reasons
to look up. We have got comet Atlas G three,
which is expected to reach its closest point to the
Sun and Earth. This is a second comet in a

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couple of months now to make an appearance, and it's
not often that we get an opportunity to see these things,
and let alone on the same day as Mars is
going to disappear behind the full moon for several hours.
It's what's known as a lunar acoctal ocultation. I thought

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I was going to get that one better ocultation. And
it comes just today after an asteroid, which we'll hear
more about in the bottom of the hour news with
George Head eighty seven. A Linda is going to be
making one of its closest approaches to Earth in recorded history,
and will actually reach peak brightness around that time again,

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all happening on January the thirteenth. No, I don't think
there's a conspiracy there. I think this is just the
way in which astronomical events happen. And certainly you can't
predict these things, or getting better at predicting asteroids and
commets and that sort of thing. But you know, the

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occultations and all the other stuff that happens, and even
asteroids that are making appearances after you know, being away
for decades coming back around. Same thing with these comets,
that's always fascinate. It's a gift, that gift keeps on
giving sort of speak. So I'm fascinated with that, and

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maybe you're fascinated with that, and it might be it
an opportunity for you to get out the binoculars or
the telescope, whatever the case happens to be, and put
eyes to the sky. Last night on the program, although
it took longer than I had intended to reach this point,

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we could actually expand on this tonight. Our guest last
night said that source tells him that a large quantity
of medical grade radioactive material was lost or perhaps stolen
somewhere in transit. We don't know where it came from,

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where it was going when it went missing, although if
the activity with the drones has anything to do with it, well,
we've been looking for it for a couple of months now.
He proposed that these drones are radiation sniffing craft that

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are trying to identify the source of a possible terrorist
attack or maybe even an actor. If it is an attack,
that attack may happen in Washington, d C. Perhaps on

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Inauguration Day. Again, according to the guest last night who
mentioned his source and the information obtained from that source. Now,
as we have stated, which kind of drives up with
what he had said last night as well, is that
it is possible that these drones are looking for a
dirty bomb or a crude nuclear bomb. This is something that, yeah,

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it could be made in someone's.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Garage or perhaps apps.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
It's something larger than that, or maybe even inside someone's vehicle.
The FBI is already warning of copycat attacks of vehicles
trying to run mass amounts of people over, as what
happened in New Orleans coupled with an explosive device. I
don't even want to think about how that situation may

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play out.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Now.

Speaker 8 (06:27):
I have proposed this theory for several weeks, maybe even
a month now, that these drones could be doing some
sort of surveillance work, and I said it a few
times on the air, and of course I agreed it
was a possibility, especially when nothing else seems to make sense,

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and we're not being told what these are, why they're here,
what they're doing. And then, of course, as I mentioned
the two terrist attack in New Orleans on New Year's
man drives his vehicle through a crowd and kills people
on New Year's and within hours we have another one.
I'm calling these terrorist attacks, whether the officials are calling

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them terrorist attacks or not, this was an act of terror.
It inflicted a ton of terror on the people who
were in the vicinity. Can you just imagine a vehicle
the size of that coming at you on a public
sidewalk or in a street where you are vulnerable. It's

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not really anywhere you can get away. And it was
only a miracle that suspect was neutralized before they did
even more damage. And then within hours, of course, Las Vegas,
a former Green Beret, reportedly shot himself in the head

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before the Tesla cybertruck that he was driving exploded in
front of President elect Donald Trump's hotel in Vegas, which
I understand was not the actual intended target, but it
became the intended target for whatever reason. And since that happened,

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a manifesto has come forward. Now you're saying, well, Jeremy,
why are you going to be talking about a manifesto
from somebody. We shouldn't even mention their name because that's
what they wanted. A lot of times people say that
when individuals do this, they want the attention, they want

(08:40):
the glory, they want their fifteen minutes or their fifteen
days or whatever, because that's all about the news cycle.
Is anymore of fame and that's it, So let's not
give it to them because that's what they want. Well,
in this case, I don't think that's what the suspect wanted.
Now we know his name, and we know his habits,

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and we know who he was, but that's not what
is important here. What is important here is what this
individual said after doing this sadistic act. Because there was
a manifesto that came forward and it's now been verified
by law enforcement to have been sent by the suspect.

(09:25):
I'm Jeremy Scott. Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.

Speaker 9 (09:28):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal. I'm Jeremy Scott.
This certainly is one of those abnormal events. A podcaster
was a sentence email, apparently with this manifesto spelling it
out the attack in Las Vegas, and authorities have since
gone on to verify that that email was sent indeed

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by this suspect, and the claims that he has made
here are what is getting the attention because in this manifesto,
the suspect claimed that the New Jersey Drones our breakthrough
gravitic propulsion aircraft launched by China. He said that only
the United States and China have this technology, and he

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also claimed that he had access to a UAP unacknowledged
special access program. Investigators have revealed that the suspect used
generative AI tools to plan the attack. He researched the

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necessary amount of explosives, where to purchase fireworks, how to
acquire an untraceable phone. Police described the use of AI
in this as a game changer. The suspect indeed said
this was not a terrorist attack, but was a wake

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up call, as he left behind a manifesto containing claims
about advanced military technologies and alleged war crimes, asserting that
recent mysterious drone sightings were due to gravitic propulsion systems
deployed by the US and China, which posts significant national
security threats, and also he accused the US government of

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covering up civilian casualties from airstrikes in Afghanistan back in
twenty nineteen. Now, as far as these drones being used
to sniff out bombs, acts of terrorism, actors involved myself
and also Drew Banky have been thinking along these lines.

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I said it on the air, he posted about it
on X and it's now even more of a concern,
I believe as we approach Inauguration day. So I'm happy
to have him on the program tonight. He's a veteran
who has dedicated himself to protecting his country and serving others,
and as he transitioned into a new chapter of his life,
he found his calling as a medicine man, using expertise

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to help others heal and find inner peace. He is
a deep commitment to service and spiritual well being is
co founder of the Plant Medicine Church Sacred Journeys Within,
empowering individuals to explore the healing powers of plant medicines
for spiritual growth and self discovery. Hi Drew, Welcome to
the program.

Speaker 10 (13:08):
How's it going, Jeremy, Thanks for having me. I'm pumped
about this conversation.

Speaker 8 (13:12):
So absolutely now I should have done what you did,
which was to put something on social media. The cool
thing about that is there's a time stamp. Of course,
my shows are you know, live, they're public, they go
out in a variety of places. But you actually posted,
you know, basically, what are the possibility that there's some

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sort of terrorism angle involved here?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Right?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (13:40):
So interesting. So on January second, I'm getting ready to
go to getting ready to go to Vegas actually to
do a podcast. And so January second, I'm listening to
a talk that Sean Ryan's having Sarah Adams, which is
a prominent in uh C I a Intel persons. She's

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been on Sean Ryan a few times, and they were
all hosting this talk. There's like, you know, there's a
couple thousand people in this talk, and they were talking
about the Trump Hotel bombing and as they were talking
about it. I was just in the background listening. It
was on X and it was on one of those
group listened things, and I was just in the background

(14:26):
listening to it, and as I was thinking, I was like,
just some popped in my head. I was like, there's
some times I just felt a deep message of there's
some type of connection between the drones and what happened, Uh,
what happened in Vegas at the Trumpet the Tesla bombing,
And yeah, so I posted about it. I actually posted

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about it in the in the chat. I tried to
raise my hand to bring it up in the in
the conversation, but there are so many prominent people in there,
you know that that you know, I was too far
down on the pecking order for them to see my
request to join. Anyways, I posted about it on X
and it was January tewod and the posting read, I

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don't know if it's verbatim, but one of the thoughts
of the connection between the drones, the recent drone sightings
and these recent attacks, like, what are the chances of that?
And I tagged Sean Ryan, I tagged Donald Trump Junior.
I tagged all the people you know that were pretty
in that core conversation and just trying to get someone

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to look at it. The next morning, I looked at
it as like fifty two views, you know, there is
basically no one looked at it. And then later that
day is when the news broke of the email coming
in and it was actually sent to Sean Ryan Show
and Anti Hero podcast, so they both got similar email

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in similar requests from the bomber to basically come forward
and be a whistleblower. And yeah, it's a very interesting email,
and I'm glad I just sat back and you know,
kind of just waited to see what was happening. Because
shortly after that, you know, this couple of days, I

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think it was just yesterday, the day before law enforcement
confirmed it did come from the suspect.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
So yeah, it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 10 (16:31):
You know, who knows what if it's all true, but
it definitely aligns with what's going on, and you know,
I take a step further. I think I posted about
today like what about the connections to these fires? Like
all these things are happening in such close proximity. You know,
if you understand frequency and vibration, you can kind of
see the same overall, Like vibration of what's happening, just

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manifesting in different ways.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
So that's kind of how I see it.

Speaker 10 (17:01):
And here lately I've been getting a lot of downloads,
you know, I got definitely a big download about Trump.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (17:11):
I don't know what you would call it. I don't
want to put a you know, put a label on it.
Just a message, you know, just a feeling, whether it
becoming a dream or whatever.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Like I predicted.

Speaker 10 (17:24):
We were talking about the election before, right before the election,
behind the scenes, you know, off air, and I told Rob,
I was like, I think Trump's going to win. I
think he's gonna win by a landslide. I think it's
going to surprise everybody. But I also see Trump being
the last president of this current governmental structure. I think
we're about to see a toll over these next four years.

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I think it's going to be a dismantle and restructure.
I think it's going to be a lot more tribalism.
Like I think we're going to be more in communities
and things like that. I don't think we're going to
have a big mass government overseeing us. And I think
it goes hand in hand with these drones. I think
they're a mixture between domestic drones and all planet drones.

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Lights in the sky, you know, let's it's called lights
in the sky, you know, or UAPs or UFOs like.
I don't understand why we're just labeling at drones and
putting it into a box, because I don't think all
of them are quote unquote drones, which would sit you know,
would uh lead us to believe that they're domestic, uh
from this planet.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I think it's a mixture up there, and I think
we're about.

Speaker 10 (18:32):
Over these next four years, and I don't think it
doesn't have This is not political at all, because I'm
not I didn't vote, I'm not political. I think it's all,
you know, the two side, two feathers of the same
bird or whatever, you know. I think it's all. I
think it's all the same thing. So this is definitely
not political. But I think over the next four years

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from my messages that I've got, that Trump will be
the last president. So over these next years we will
see some type of restructure of the government or definitely
how things are run. I think it's going to definitely
tied into disclosure because if we understand our relationship with
these quote unquote a planet entities or extra dimensional entities,

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ets or whatever you want to call them. They're star
people to a lot of Native American tribes, you know,
they're light people, things like that. So I think we're
going to understand our relationship. You know a lot of
experiencers report back that bi overall message is oneness or relationship.

Speaker 8 (19:32):
Got to hold that thought. More to come, Drew making
our guest tonight, I'm Jeremy Scotts. On into the pair
of Norma.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
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The colossal space rock that has captured the attention of
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Speaker 11 (20:48):
News well pass invist die seven others were injured when
a Tesla cyber the Tronk cool fire and exploded outside
the US President elect Donald Trump's Las Vegas hotel.

Speaker 8 (21:10):
They're aware of a podcast claiming to have a letter
from Matthew.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
Ligelesbers mentioning recent drone sightings in the Northeast and claiming
that he was being followed by federal investigator.

Speaker 12 (21:20):
There's some pretty alarming stuff that came out in the
email about the drones that were seeing on the East
coast and some capabilities that China has, capabilities that we have.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
We have confirmed that the document that he sent to
the podcast, we know that he was.

Speaker 9 (21:34):
The one that sent that document.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
This was not a terrorist attack.

Speaker 13 (21:37):
As a wake up, Paul, Americans only pay attention to
spectacles and violence.

Speaker 11 (21:41):
What better way to get my point across that's done
with fireworks.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
And explosives into the pair of normal with Geraldy Scott
somewhere between the pair of normal and the abnormal and outdoor.

Speaker 8 (21:54):
Yeah's certainly a made point. It was a spectacle. Blew
himself up after shooting himself in the head on the
way to Trump Tower in Las Vegas on New Year's
Day and the manifesto leaving behind talking about this gravity
controlled propulsion. Is this advanced engineering or is it just

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something that we don't understand scientifically how it works. And
maybe those who are a little bit more technologically advanced
than us, or are ahead of us in the development
of this technology, maybe that is China. This was what
the suspect was trying to communicate with us. They chose

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to end their life in doing so. Our guest is
Drew Banky tonight, as a veteran, how did you take
this news?

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Drew?

Speaker 10 (22:52):
So it was hard any veteran that served that takes
his own life. You know, there's twenty two veterans a
day that take their own life, so in different ways,
but this is you know, definitely in the news and
in the front. But the things that he was saying
is is the most alarming. You know, it's definitely heartbreaking too.

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You know, in any any loss of human life. You know,
I'm I really believe in oneness and togetherness and all
that stuff, So I'm I'm peace, love and happiness the
type of person very much in my spirituality and everything.
So it's any loss of life is hard. And you know,
I know he was going through there's some signs out

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there that he may have been going through some problems
with like relationship problems or maybe even problems with paternity
of a child.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
There's there's all types of things going on out there.

Speaker 10 (23:49):
But you know, bottom line, what we what we need
to look at before we look at anything else, Like
there's a human life that got lost. You know, he
was a son to someone, you know, at least two people.
You know, he was a father to other people. He
was he was a husband, a friend, and there's there's

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a loss there. And the people that got hurt as well.
I'm not sure if there was any fatalities inside the hotel.
I know there was some injuries. I don't remember all
the details on.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
That, but yeah, it's just heartbreaking, you know, and him
being a green bereat like getting to the technical side
of it. Him being a Green Breay.

Speaker 10 (24:32):
He was with a tenth group, which I think their
area operations is I believe is Europe, so he's he
would definitely be operating outside his like facts of the
manifest Well, things that got mentioned in the manifesto in
working on secret space programs and stuff. The Greek coordinates

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did show up to a building that's area fifty one,
Groom Light area, something like that.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I do know.

Speaker 10 (25:03):
There was a post on X that I saw that
someone did look into the Greek coordinates and it does
point exactly to a building that could be an inference
to underground like secret base. But I think it's around
area fit. Did you see that, Jeremy the video? No,
the someone uh the coordinates the yeah, the coordinates and

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they put all together and it's a building I think
in area fifty one or Groom Lake area or something
like that.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Well, the government just always likes to deny it anyway,
They say that there's nothing there. Why do they have
an airline named Janet though that leaves from l A S.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, I mean there's there's all types of things we
get into.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know this.

Speaker 10 (25:48):
The NASA owns parts of the Grand Canyon. You know,
they own they own parts of areas in Egypt, NASA owns.
So yeah, there's all types of stuff that's coming out,
like we're in and this is what I've been talking
about lately, a lot we're ever since twenty twenty. Really

(26:09):
it occurred to me that you know, everything's frequency and
vibration and the truth really started in twenty twenty because
that connotation of the twenty twenty meant to most of
us perfect vision or clarity. So when we like twenty
twenty hit that whole year, when you're writing down or

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saying it or typing it out, you were unknowingly, unconsciously
manufacturing clarity in the world. And I believe this is
my theory that that's why we're seeing a lot of
clarity come out since twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's been ramping up every year. You know, it's been.

Speaker 10 (26:49):
Expounding on each other year after year since twenty twenty.
And I think it's I think it's because of that.
You know, back in eighteen eighteen hundreds, I forgot the
guy's name, but he coined the phrase twenty twenty in
regards to perfect vision. So the date was set that

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twenty twenty the year twenty twenty would be the start
of clarity coming over the masses, coming over the collective.
So this is my theory of just you know, pondering
things and how things work, and my understanding of frequency
and vibration, how manifestation works. I think we've unknowingly been
manifesting this reality that we're seeing now, you know, knowing

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that the government's been researching and doing testing on you know,
consciousness psychedelics since you know, forties or fifties, maybe even
before proofs have evidence of alien crashes, sightings, recoveries, maybe
back into the nineteen thirties. Even so, it's been there's

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the secret's been going on for so long, and I
think the basis behind it, like I, like I keep repeating,
is the reason that they're keeping a secret is the
relationship of Because if you understand the relationship that we
are actually related to these inner cosmic star travelers, and

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then that opens up with the possibility of us tapping
into the same magic and how you're going to control
people that understand consciousness and frequency and vibration.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's not possible. You can't keep them in a container anymore.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
So.

Speaker 8 (28:34):
The suspects saying that we have this advanced technology and
that is supposedly what is powering these drones.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Is that surprising to hear?

Speaker 10 (28:46):
Not really, I mean, because we're there, we say we're
forty fifty years what we're seeing, what the public knows
about the technology, the public knows about the powers to
be are actually forty fifty years had of that. So
it doesn't surprise me one bit, you know, especially if
we did recover craft from Roswell.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
There was through my I'm going on six years.

Speaker 10 (29:11):
Public speaking now, so I've done a lot of interviews,
done co hosts, a lot of different places.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
And remember where you're at.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
We'll pick up that thought when we come back with
Drew Banking, our guest his website, Sacred Journeys within dot Com.
Somewhere between the paranormal and the Admiral, I'm Jeremy.

Speaker 9 (29:27):
Scott's into the pair of the normal, pair of.

Speaker 8 (29:58):
I'm Jeremy Scott, somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
Imagine we are forty fifty years behind on some of
this technology. What we're seeing, you know, forty to fifty
years from now is being developed in a bunker, hopefully
not in someone's garage. I already hear from a few

(30:20):
of you that said it really freaked y out to
hear me talk about people building bombs in their garages
or their vehicles. Hey, you know, we got to be
prepared for this reality in which we live in. Whether
it means you need to be a nosy neighbor from
time to time and go over and talk to your
neighbor more often, No, I'm not really suggesting that don't
put yourself in harm's way, but anyway, yeah, I think

(30:42):
that's kind of the reality we're at and maybe what
these drones are out looking for. Drew continue your thought.
I mean you were talking about because I had asked
about whether or not it surprised you that the suspect
in the Las Vegas bombing said that they're this advanced
military technology, something that the only the US and the

(31:04):
China and China are in possession of. And I asked
you if that surprise you, and you said no, because
you know, we are so far behind on this technology,
or somebody is so far ahead on it.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
Yeah, it's exactly you know we're talking. You know Bob
Lasar Element one fifteen, you know, did he come out
he was talking about that a long time ago, and
now it's started, there's a there's actually proof starting to
come out linking it back, letting like letting us know
that element four to fifteen was a real thing. So
going back to like anti gravity propulsion, where I left

(31:38):
off at was, I've been doing this for six years,
co hosting and also doing tons of interviews, mostly interviews,
but co hosting here and there on different on different places,
so I get to talk to a lot of different people.
One thing that is corroborated by the congress testimonies recently
by lou Alazono and others that there is biological there's

(32:02):
biological beings in possession of the US government or power
should be that's that's studying this phenomenon.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
I mean, the US government is in possession of the
biological beings, correct, correct?

Speaker 10 (32:13):
Yeah, or whoever whoever studying it. You know, I don't
know if it's the US government particularly, but whoever is
in charge shadowy Yeah, what you know. I'm not putting
any titles on who's doing it, but somebody's doing it,
but they The bottom line is, and the shocker that
come out in the congressional meetings is we do have

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biological beings.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
In our possession.

Speaker 10 (32:36):
So a lot of I've come to learn that at
the Roswell crash, there's actually two two crafts that crash.
One was in Roswell, New Mexico, and the other one
was I think approximately about one hundred miles away, and
the one that that The reason that that second crash
site does not get talked about so much is because
there was a living being that was recovered from that

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crash site that actually lived here on this planet and
underground bunker.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
For the site, right, I believe.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
So, so we're the EB one.

Speaker 10 (33:07):
So the EB one was was the biological being, and
it was alive and it actually survived this The guy
that actually took care of was a caretaker of EB one.
Shortly before his death, he he talked to a family
member or something like that or leaked it. So it
was you know, there is kind of you know, he said,

(33:30):
she said, and the disconnection.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
But man, how many how many things that we.

Speaker 10 (33:36):
Would have considered, you know, ten years ago or fifteen
years ago, how many things that we would consider not real?
Even even having marijuana legal in states and things like that,
we would never thought that we would, you know, never
imagine that growing up as a kid. But these things
are becoming in real life now. And I think, you know,

(33:58):
having the you know, co mean out in the congressional
meeting like that's that's pretty close to disclosure if you
want to ask me, like my definition of disclosure of
the government. And we're talking about an open session in
Congress talking about we have biological pilots from crash from

(34:18):
outer space in our possession. That's pretty crazy, you know,
so uh, it would be so starfetched that we have
anti you know, some of these drones up there are
us testing out their powers and along with China, like
you know, there's it's only but this is only the
ninth of January now, and man, we've been through a

(34:41):
lot of things already. We got huge fires out in California,
you know, just all types of things going on. The
drones are still an issue going on since mid November
till now till current and all over the world too.
It's not just in New Jersey or the East Coast.

Speaker 8 (34:57):
It's all you know, there's have you been listening the
show recently drew yourself? Yeah, it's okay, you're just up
on it, you.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Know, I have it. Yeah, I have it.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I have it now.

Speaker 8 (35:10):
Well you've been you've been hitting on all the points
that that we've been making.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
So I'm glad.

Speaker 8 (35:13):
I'm glad I'm not the only one who is, uh,
you know, paying attention out there. So, okay, the suspect
here alleging that these are China's drones. You know, if
if these are China's drones, that's also the narrative that
was thrown out there two years ago when we were
shooting down objects in the US and Canada. And so

(35:36):
let's focus in on China. What would China want from us?
What are they spying on us? Or are these weaponized drones?
And are they deploying some sort of weapon on us?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Well, they a lot of them have the size characteristics.

Speaker 10 (35:53):
So you know, we're get back at going back to
my military experience. In two thousand and seven, we were
flying drones. They're surveillance drones, and they were small, you know,
three feet max. And they were launched by just basically
running and throwing them in the air. And they would
launch and have a propeller system I can't yeah, a
little propeller A couple of propeller systems that moved them

(36:16):
but they weren't drones that could move in any direction
like drones you see now like and so the weaponized
drones are much bigger. You're talking about like the reaper
drones that carry actual armament payloads. You know, you're talking
about carside drones are bigger. The things that's alarming about
some of these reports about drones. Haven't seen any drones

(36:38):
personally out here, but the reports that are coming back
are car sized, are above drones, some of them, you know, especially,
So that's very alarming. That's that's armament sized drones. Those
aren't surveillance drones if they're drones. If they're you know,
And the other possibility that's been explored heard a lot

(37:00):
that which I've heard is they could be off planet
and cloaking themselves as domestic drones. There's you know, there's
a million possibilities out there. I think we will see
something very soon. And another post that I made on

(37:20):
X recently in response to this is, I think it's
on the same posts what happened? Oh that the time
stamp posts from January second, So what happens if these
drones are still an issue and we've known there's reports
of them flying over military installations. There's reports of them

(37:42):
flying over and shutting down domestic air travel airports several
different times since since mid November, so and there's been
no interaction. There's been no uh to S sixteen's that's
get scrambled or whatever from Wright Patterson or something. There's

(38:03):
been no response like that. So my question is what
happens if January twentieth, if we see a bunch of
rogue drones the size of you know, small cars hovering
over Washington and DC, are we still going to go
through with an inauguration of the forty seven.

Speaker 8 (38:23):
Well, it doesn't seem like they're concerned about them now
because they have put in new fly zones that have
been breached. They said they were going to use deadly force,
and last time I checked, they have not. So it
certainly is giving the impression that you can just invade airspace.
And one thing I will add in addition to the
military facilities, is that some of these are nuclear facilities.

(38:49):
So now this gets really really serious and it is
a national security issue based on the fact that we
don't exactly know who's these are, or we're not saying
who's these are and why they are here. But but
who who could afford drones this big in your opinion?

Speaker 10 (39:12):
I mean we're talking some of these bigger ones are
one hundred thousand dollars, not you know, the size of
a car. You're talking one hundred thousand dollars, not commercial,
you know, commercial sized drones and the volume that's in
the air, like, it has to be someone that's really
rich and really bored.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
You know.

Speaker 10 (39:31):
We've talked about several times, and I think we definitely
ruled out the possibility that this is someone in their basement,
you know, and just crypto rich and putting up a
bunch of drones, mainly because you know, the most uh,
the most valuable fact that is is not happening just
the United States.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
It's I mean, it's all over.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
It would have to be a very well planned out
diabolical super villain.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
So is it Aliens?

Speaker 10 (40:00):
I think it's I don't know. I think it's a mixture.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Man.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
That's a good answer. It's a mixture. I agree. More
to come.

Speaker 8 (40:09):
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Speaker 7 (40:32):
There's a parallel universe fil that separations. While we perceived
seriality of the game, that the truth we know it's
all in least into the pad, into the pave.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
It's okay to hold hands.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
You never know what might come up from behind into
the parib nor.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
You know.

Speaker 8 (41:28):
Here's how I approach it is long as this thing
remains unexplained. And by that I mean the wave of
drone sightings or as I've been calling them UFO drones.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
I'm just opposed to calling them.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
Drones when we don't know that they are actually drones,
and thinking about how much money it would cost to
have multiple of these drones in air quotes all across
the world. I mean, I'm not saying that there is
is not possible that some elite, shadowy government wouldn't have

(42:07):
all the funds in the world or access too or
maybe they didn't even pay for them. Maybe they built them,
or they're in on it with someone, you know, a
kickback sort to speak, and then they've deployed these drones
for whatever nefarious purposes. I mean, nobody is talking about that.
I don't know if they are even talking about drones
on the mainstream news anymore because I don't watch the

(42:30):
mainstream news for obvious reasons. But these are still happening.
As we've said, reports are still coming in several of
these a day, pretty much every day from you know,
not just Jersey, but other states, other countries as well.
So we really have to have an open mind and

(42:54):
not rule anything out. And of course, possibility is these
could be traditional UFOs who have.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Excelled enough.

Speaker 8 (43:09):
To where they can make them appear in any shape
or form.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
What do you think about that, Drew.

Speaker 10 (43:17):
Yeah, I think possibilities endless if especially if it is
off planet, you know, advanced technology. There's been all types
of reports throughout times of them doing different things. You know,
just look at the display that China had recently with
their the you know, it's been floating around for a while,

(43:39):
so most people have seen it. The display of the
drone dragon that changed into a city and all that
stuff that uh that was that was put out a
few weeks ago, so you know, that's that's just here.
That's just here what we know about, you know, and
if it is off planet, like they could be cloaking

(44:00):
to anything. You know, They've there's been I've I've heard
of videos out there of orbs turning into looks like
traditional man made craft and taking off. I haven't seen
seen the video personally, but I've heard of it. So,

(44:20):
you know, and off planet stuff, we're talking about multi
dimensional stuff. They figured out time travel, and they they
figured out how to travel across you know, a large
amount of time that they found wormholes, So who knows
how far advanced it is. I think I don't think
our minds as humans, I don't. We can try to
articulate it, but I don't think we can really understand

(44:43):
it or even articulate it fully. You know, we see
things and when we touched, when we you know, experiencers,
when they see ships or have experiences when they're taken
on ships, abducted, whatever it is, they come back with
the residual you know, side effect that is a conscious evolution,

(45:04):
you know, happens within those people. You know, and I'm
speaking from experience and also being in the field for
many years that this seems to be a thing also
with experience or something that comes up a lot is
self sustainability, living off grid homesteading seems to be like
a byproduct that comes along. I don't know if it's

(45:26):
comes along with the spiritual awakening or the disclosure, but
you know, me personally, I got told a long time
ago that I need, you know, not maybe not be
a prepper, but being prepared isn't a bad thing either,
you know. And that's why I lived the lifestyle I do.
I have two greenhouses. One greenhouse goes all year long,

(45:47):
the other greenhouse is seasonal, have an outdoor garden, solar,
We have a well, We have chickens for eggs, you know,
goats for milk, and we also have starlink and you know,
the studio and stuff that we do podcasts, and so
we show people that the balance between living more sustainability.
You don't have to give up everything, you don't have

(46:09):
to live in a cave to live more in tune
with nature. So I think that's an important message that comes.
And I've come to find out that I'm not the
only one that's got you know, that gets this calling
to live like this.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I think it's.

Speaker 10 (46:27):
Goes along with the territory of either disclosure or conscious evolution.

Speaker 8 (46:35):
And so through that lifestyle, do you seek out alternative
methods sort of speak, just to get your yourself through
life because you are living off the grid.

Speaker 10 (46:53):
I don't know, be more specific, I don't know alternative methods.

Speaker 8 (46:57):
Well, I mean you have to do things differently, right
if you're if you're living, you know, off the grid,
you may not enjoy some of the luxuries that those
of us who are not who are dependent on the
grid enjoy.

Speaker 10 (47:11):
No, we have everything, you know, everything that you would
have in a normal house. We are technically off the grid.
We we were not connected to the electrical grid at all.
We have solar panels, we have a battery system, We
have a washer.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
And dryer, water heater.

Speaker 10 (47:27):
You know, we have all the luxuries that you would
have in normal house. We have a TV, and we
have like I said, we have starlink obviously for the
podcast and everything. This is where I'm broadcasting from right now,
my space. I'm in office and you know I have
I do, I do plenty of interviews. So it's set

(47:48):
up with computer and everything. It's everything that I'm speaking
through right now is run from solar. So you know,
this is a testament even what I even me talking
right now, you know this is has. I'm not hooked
up to a generator or anything. It's it's all solar.
And the whole system I designed and put in all
myself from the beginning. You know, when it first started,

(48:09):
it was a couple of panels and a couple of
car batteries. Now it's twelve panels and two lithium batteries
and you know, and yeah, like I said, it runs
everything that you could think of, Like, you know, we
run a uh you know vitam mix which pulls a
lot of electricity things like that. You know, we we

(48:31):
can run that day or night, it doesn't matter when.
And but it took a long time to get to that.
You know, it's a it's an investment and sometimes uh
there's not much to invest, and sometimes there's a little more.
But it's just a growth pattern. But and then you know,
it's all all happens at the same time. You know,
while you're growing your solar system, you're you're also.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Trying to plant a few more plants.

Speaker 10 (48:55):
And I tell people that you don't have to start
off with a greenhouse and an off grid, uh, you know,
three hundred thousand dollars property or whatever, with full solar
and everything. Just start off with getting a few seeds
from wal Mart or something like that and growing say
a tomato in a window and going all the way

(49:16):
to harvest of that tomato or whatever plant. You know,
it could be onions or whatever. But when you ingest
that food that you've grown, whether it just be one
plant or twenty plants, you know, haul greenhouse full. Just
start off with one, and you're taking part in a
sacred ceremony that has was started before we had anything

(49:37):
religious take place. You know, the ceremony of raising, harvesting
food and eating it and sustaining yourself. That's a sacred
ceremony that started way before anything religious ever started.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
And you have a plant in medicine church that folks
can join you in these efforts.

Speaker 10 (49:58):
Yeah, it's a you can find it Sacred Journeys within
So it's Sacred Journeys.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Journey Journeys is spelled I E.

Speaker 10 (50:05):
S within dot com or you could just type in
my name like it's We've also been on a show
Homestead Rescue on Discovery Channel a few times, so yeah,
you can find.

Speaker 8 (50:20):
Do you have to take a commercial break, We'll be
back with Drew Banky right after.

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(51:53):
then within those pages there's links to websites and social
media and books and Drew, you've written a couple of
books yourself, have you not?

Speaker 6 (52:03):
I have.

Speaker 10 (52:04):
The first one was published in twenty twenty I'm Perfect
and So Were You? And there these both my books
can be found on Amazon, and I'm working on getting
them put into audiobooks, so hopefully within the next couple
of weeks are have audiobook versions of I'm Perfect and
Soilver You?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
And the second one is Find Your Inner Guru.

Speaker 10 (52:27):
The first book, I'll give you the general premise of them,
and the first book talks about the process of I
was the Sun Dance. I'm a sun Dancer sacred pipe
carrier as well as well as medicine carrier, and it
talks about my experiences and what led up to those
and some of the experiences in those ceremonies with psychedelics

(52:49):
and non psychedelic Native American ceremonies, the profound spiritual experiences
that kind of led up to my ultimate going to
the Throne room and becoming Source and then coming back
in the human form, and but with the memory of
and all the truths that I understood in in that

(53:11):
in that extreme oneness moment. And uh, that's pretty much
the premise of the first book, you know, the lead
up to to my enlightenment or awakening or whatever you
want to call it, or whatever label you want to
put on it. And the second one, Find Your Inner Guru,
talks more about what happens and how to integrate those truths,

(53:36):
those profound truths that we we see in ceremonies or
breath work or near death experiences, how we integrate those
experiences into our daily life now and how we live
a more enlightened life while we're still alive, you know,
how we integrate uh, those profound truths of divinity and

(53:58):
et cetera, et cetera into our lives. So that's kind
of the premise of the second book. And my co author,
doctor clan Drawn, she helped me put it together. She's
a established writer well before me and her ever met,
but she's helped me put together both these books. And
I'm really proud of them and excited to get them

(54:18):
out there on audio so more people can hear it.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Fantastic.

Speaker 8 (54:25):
There certainly have been a lot of UFO sightings of
late that have involved military basis that you mentioned right Patterson.
There was also a recent incident there near a Kentucky
and Tennessee at Fort Campbell.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Of course, we also reported on the Royal.

Speaker 8 (54:42):
Air Force baces that have had a series of sightings,
in fact, at least four of them that I'm aware
of nuclear facilities as well. And this is just part
of a long documented history right of UFOs and some
sort of fatuation with military movements.

Speaker 10 (55:04):
Sure, you know, it's if it is off planet, especially
our if it's from another country, I mean, it's they're
going to be interested in our military basis. I happen
to live in southern Colorado, so I'm I'm just south
of Chayanne Mountain, which is uh Cheyenne Mountain. Uh is
home to NORAD Central Command, but also it's now home

(55:27):
to Space Force Command, so they're they're inside.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
The mountain right right above me.

Speaker 10 (55:32):
I live right at about two miles south, directly south
of Mount Blanca, which is a highly documented throughout history,
uh starting with uh Skippy the Horse was a cattle
mulation that put a certain researcher that that we all
know on the map back in the day. But that's

(55:53):
a well documented case that was you know, a few
miles from me, I live in that same valley, and yeah,
so we are we're in between New Mexico and we
all know there's there's a bunch of bases in New Mexico.
But so we see flight patterns all the time, and

(56:14):
especially looking back on it now, look, you know, talking
about time stamps again. You can go back on my
social media's and find me posting. I think it was
mid November when the drone started happening. We had a
whole day where we had helicopters going back and forth
over top of our house. I mean, I'm talking pretty

(56:35):
low and I'm talking all different types of helicopters, Yo
Chinook's Apaches all the way into the night on the mountain,
flying over the mountain and everything. But yeah, it happened
close to I think it was around mid November, and
I put I posted it, uh well documented on my

(56:55):
social media's. But that's just some of the things that happened.
You know, we we see we're definitely in a flight
path of some type of you know, in between two
military bases.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
We see it all the time.

Speaker 10 (57:07):
I also posted one time we were driving into town
and we had two Apache helicopters come down, maybe a
couple hundred feet from the road and fly alongside us
and travel, and then they took off and went south
into New Mexico. Because we're where I live right now,
We're real close to the New Mexico border. We're only

(57:30):
twenty minutes twenty minute ride and you're in New Mexico,
so we're right in southern central south Colorado.

Speaker 8 (57:42):
Do you believe that these whatever they are, call them drones,
call them UFOs, that they pose a national security threat?
I mean, based on your military experience, would you consider
them a national security threat?

Speaker 6 (57:58):
No?

Speaker 10 (57:58):
And this is this is the evidence that points to
that leave. There's evidence that leads me to leave both ways.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I haven't.

Speaker 10 (58:05):
I'm not on either camp yet, off planet or domestic,
but this fact would lead me to believe that maybe
this is off planet because if they were adversarial like
there would not be that something would have been done already,
you know, they would not that. Me being you know,

(58:26):
almost ten years in the military and two tours in Iraq,
I have a lot of combat experience, more than some,
not as much as others. But the element of surprise
is elementary in the art of combat. So if they
were adversarial, like I don't, I think they some would
have happened by now. It's definitely I would put it

(58:49):
in the category as surveillance. And but it leads me
to believe that this could be off planet empties because
this is a surveillance waiting for the right moment, you know,
giving doing their version of soft disclosure.

Speaker 8 (59:05):
Sorry to interrupt, but because we're about ready to hit
a break. But no matter what it is, doesn't that
make it a national security threat? Because it is an
unknown and we don't know how to deal with it.
And should we decide that we're going to shoot it
or we're going to deal with it in any capacity,
we have to know what it is first before we
know how to react. That's why I'm labeling it a threat.

(59:26):
I'll give you thirty seconds.

Speaker 10 (59:29):
Well, they've shut down nuclear sites before, so if it's
off planet, there's a pretty good chance that we can't
interact with it. There is no there is nothing we
can do to it. And I don't take it fair
enough if it is off planet, no threat.

Speaker 8 (59:43):
If it is off planet, it doesn't pose a threat
to us. Interesting, all right, motorcum Drew banky our guest tonight,
fascinating conversation. Really appreciate him coming on the program. We
will take a break and come back in just a
few moments. Appreciate everyone far and wide listening to the
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Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
There is a preponderance of evidence to suguce, at least
prima faci, that we should assume that we are being
visited by a non human intelligence.

Speaker 13 (01:01:47):
I don't think we have all the data to say, oh,
they're coming from a certain location. Maybe they're coming from
a different physical dimension as described in quantum Mechanics extra terrestrials.

Speaker 10 (01:01:59):
Some of these listeners very well might be multi dimensional
in their source.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
We're not alone, We're.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Not an a enforced already in mys.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Hang on for the ride, you're headed into the air.

Speaker 8 (01:02:16):
Abnormal Reagan was asking the questions. The answer to that is,
I think yes, I think we have been visited. We
still are being visited. Is this one of those moments

(01:02:37):
or those times in history? Is this an alien visitation?
As our guest tonight to Drew Banky Sacred Journeys within
his website, he was telling us that if these are
off planet entities, you know who are responsible for this
wave of what we'll call drone sidings because that seems

(01:02:57):
to be the popular term. Everybody knows what we're talking about,
whether they're drones or not. You were saying, Drew that
if they are not from our planet, that they don't
pose a threat to us.

Speaker 10 (01:03:10):
Why is that, Well, you know, the message that I've
received personally and that gets you know, echoed all the
time through experiences that I hear that have you know,
go on a ship or whatever, they come back with
this one thing of.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
You know, compassion.

Speaker 10 (01:03:33):
You know, even Travis Walton when he when he first
had the experience, for the first couple of years, he
reported it was a bad experience. But now he understands
it and he has a totally different perspective that they
were actually trying to help him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
And So I think.

Speaker 10 (01:03:50):
That where we're at right now in our spiritual growth
of human race, I think we're at the prefaces of
getting read of the lesson of duality, you know that,
I think the lesson of the three D existence moving
into four D and five D and higher vibrational states.
I think the lesson of that three D is duality

(01:04:13):
and you know, right or wrong, good and bad. So
I think moving forward, you know, the and also the
lesson that we understand when we move out of three
D is you know, the lesson of you know, of
oneness of being you know, a source, the idea of
source being the the energy, that power is the creation.

(01:04:37):
But ultimately we decide of our own creation, and we're
co creating, and we're also creating our own personal reality,
but we're also co creating a reality as a collective.
All eight point something trillion of us, you know, worldwide,
we are walking gods in the sense that we have
very powerful consciousnesses. I think we're starting to see that

(01:04:59):
more and more. You know, government's been studying it for
a very long time. All these all these programs, videos
are coming out teaching kids, uh, not only with autism
and special needs, just just kids in general, teaching them
how to see without using their eyes, you know, blindfold
seeing colors, reading without having their eyes covered. So we're

(01:05:21):
starting to we're at a stage where we're coming out
of this idea that we're stuck in this zero to
eighty year cycle and we're gonna we're going to pass
on and it's going to be lights out. We're starting
to understand that there's something more than that. You know,
this energy that's inside of us, that's proven that you know,

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when when you if you passed away in a hospital
or something, and they're going to try to restart your
heart with electrical shock, and there's a reason why they're
losing using electrical shock. We have electrical electrical pulses inside
of us. You know, we're we're biological. But I think
that you know, we're hooked into this quantum realm, quantum

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entanglement type of deal. And I truly really buy into that.
So I think moving forward, the understanding of oneness, I
think that duality fades away because you understand there is
you're not you're not fighting with anything, You're looking at
another particle yourself at all times.

Speaker 8 (01:06:22):
Yeah, as we mentioned earlier in the week, you know,
when we reach these altered states of consciousness, it can
significantly distort our perception of time, which can then cause
it to either speed up or slow down. And it
is said that these experiences occur, you know, in the
case of emergencies, or during meditation, or under the influence

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of psychedelics, and so in these cases, individuals may actually
perceive time differently. They may perceive seconds stretching into minutes
or minutes into our there's however, it's not quite sure
exactly why that is happening.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
What do you think through sure?

Speaker 10 (01:07:08):
I mean there's there's tons of documented cases of lost time,
you know, Betty and Barney Hill. You know, there's there's
it's it's a common theme of abduction cases of lost time.
You know, people driving four hours and only remember fifteen
minutes of the drive, you know, and and winding up

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at a location and not remembering the last you know,
a couple hours of it. So I think times a
man made thing. You know, it's said something that was constructed.
There's you know, if we think about it, like if
we really step back and take it, take a couple
of deep breaks and really think about this with an
open mind, there is no there is no Monday through.

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There is no Monday. There is no Tuesday. None of
that is really there. Like we've put a label on that.
That's a that's a man made label. There's uh. You know,
if you go into to the woods and you start
talking to an animal in the woods, like find a
way to talk to it through telepathy or whatever, and
you start trying to describe to them. Okay, we got

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a twenty four hour cycle. We got a twenty four
hour day, three hundred and sixty five days a year,
you know, and we have these leap years. We also
have time changes, things like that, these animals are gonna lucky,
Like what are you talking about? Like the sun rises
and falls? You know, that's why you know, when you
do psychedelics or and you go out and do that,

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you know, macrodose and hike in nature, or even without psychedelics,
even you can go out and hike in nature and
get these you know, it's a healing it's a healing thing.
The plants and the trees are there a lot of
these trees that you pass on in these especially in
the state forests and things like that. They've been around
for generations longer than you have. So I believe plants

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are scentient beings as well. I think that's why going
out nature helps us. You're dealing with beings that are
much more wiser than you. They've been around longer, and
they've seen a lot more than you. They understand, you know,
a tree understands patients, a tree understands being in one
in one place and being okay with that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
You know, I have to because it's not going to
move and soon, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:09:23):
And they're also connected between this my celium that connects us.
You know, that's underneath the dirt that connects plants in
uh in large force and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
And that's kind of like.

Speaker 10 (01:09:36):
Our spirituality, you know, our spirituality or quantum realm. There's
so many you know, being in the Native American spiritual
path for all these years, I see so much truth
and similarities and messages in nature of how we live
if you have an open mind and look at it.

Speaker 8 (01:09:54):
All right, more to come, Drew Banky our guest tonight.
I'm Jeremy Scott. Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
Of course, this is into the pair abnormal.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
We'll be right.

Speaker 9 (01:10:03):
Back into the pair of normal.

Speaker 11 (01:10:23):
Pair of.

Speaker 8 (01:10:42):
You would have to be very very patient to be
out there, you know, taking the brunt of the weather,
whether it's the extreme heat or the extreme cold. You know,
and during all four seasons, h nobody ever talks to you,
and unless the trees talk to themselves anyway, talking with

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a Drew Banky tonight, on into the pair of normal.
As far as the consciousness element here, there's obviously a
connection here, isn't that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:11:25):
Yeah, absolutely, there's you know, there's a definitely a connection
between the ceremonies, the dream state and and the physical.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
You know, I've been uh time and time again.

Speaker 10 (01:11:35):
I've had preconditioned dreams, you know, and I've channeled back
back in the day, I when it first started. I
started channeling Osiris and I channeled Jesus a few times,
and you know, eventually all that faded away, and I
channeled Source like uh transnidental like channeling where I would

(01:11:59):
be there conscious but there would be something else using
my vocal cords. But now it's just uh, And then
I started channeling for Source, and all those other uh
you know, beings kind of faded away because uh, you know,
I was just speaking for the one source of the universe.
And now I just uh kind of melted into that

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where I don't do that channeling anymore. I realized that
there is no separation. All those all those separations and
everything I put those were self imposed, you know, they
weren't uh, the reality of situation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
So now I'm just.

Speaker 10 (01:12:34):
Kind of a mirror for humanity and letting people know,
you know, the truth behind the powers of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
The I am and.

Speaker 10 (01:12:41):
The I am you know, meditation or mantra, understanding that
you are one with the universe. And so my mantra
that I leave everybody with you know, is very powerful
me and helpful for me through my growth. Is I
am I am, and so is everything around me. So
that includes beings, people, plants, and everything. Everything that you

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see around you was in someone's mind at one time,
whether it be ai or something sacred like you know,
a buffalo skull or anything like that. You know, anything,
anything that's in physical existence was in someone's mind in
some way, form or fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
It was an idea.

Speaker 10 (01:13:23):
Especially all these physical things, man made things, they're all
sacred because they were all in someone's mind at one time.
So if you look at if you look at the
world through that lens and understand that the divinity that
you see in these you know, I'm sure a lot
of listeners, especially this pard that this particular show has
you psychedelics or consciousness in some way. Those those things

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are valuable, and you know, they need to be honored
in that way. And one of the main messages is
we're all one love, love one another, being symbiosis with
everything around you, treat others how you should be treated.
All those things point back to the truth of oneness
and divinity of creation. So that's you know, that's the

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basis between behind. The title to my first book, I'm
Perfect and So Are You talks about the divinity of
nature that we're in right now and the understanding that
everything is perfect. You have to shift your mindset to
that like and understand, you know, find the gold the
silver lining in all those moments, the gold lining. You know,

(01:14:30):
there is a positive in every moment, even if you're
mourning a loved one. Trust me, there's a positive.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
I've been.

Speaker 10 (01:14:37):
I've been through all those lessons too of mourning, and
you know, I pray for everybody that's on the path,
whether they know it or not, for compassion and clarity
for each and other person's own particular path that they're
on right now.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
Drew, you've seen UFOs, Is that correct?

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
You have?

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Yea, I have.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:15:03):
I also have a pretty well documented face to face
encounter near Chaco Canyon in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
But yeah, I live in the San Luis Valley.

Speaker 10 (01:15:12):
It's the UFO super Highway Highway seventeen that runs around
Crestone and Alamosa area in the San Luis Valley is
one of.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
The most.

Speaker 10 (01:15:24):
Documented. They have a documented UFO areas in here. I've
seen several UFOs from my front porch. I have them
on my own personal YouTube channel. Back from September of
twenty twenty three, I had a sighting that lasted over
an hour and at one point there was over six
different lights. Are just call them lights because that's all

(01:15:47):
I know for sure that they are. But they were
in there interacting with each other for over an hour
or so.

Speaker 8 (01:15:55):
Interesting. So tell us about your work with the elements,
the the the the healing plants, because you do this
and you help others as well.

Speaker 10 (01:16:08):
Right, sure, yeah, I work with ayahuasca. Then started working
with that in twenty sixteen on my own personal journey,
drank ayahuasca for the first time, and you know, got
called to service shortly thereafter after my first couple of
ceremonies and got, you know, really called to help. So

(01:16:29):
I started off, you know, helping people go to the
bathroom and you know, making sure people didn't fall down
go in the bathroom, you know, help guide them so
they didn't fall and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
People that were deep into medicine.

Speaker 10 (01:16:41):
And it started off like that, and fast forward to
twenty twenty, we founded with the State LLC Plant Medicine
Church Sacred Journeys within so we're we're filed. We've been
filed with the state since twenty twenty as a as
a plant medicine church, very openly talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
What we what we do here, you know, and we've we've.

Speaker 10 (01:17:03):
Helped hundreds, if not thousands of people through our ceremonies,
you know, people's come out here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
We've also done went to.

Speaker 10 (01:17:13):
Other states and then ceremonies like that, especially before we
founded the LLC, We've we did a lot of traveling
and did a lot of underground work serving the medicine.
But and speaking of which, RB and Joshua Tree coming
up in February doing an ayahuasca retreat which still has
open seats, So if you want to check that out,

(01:17:33):
go to Sacred Jourams within and reached me through there
or any social and we could talk about it. But yeah,
we've helped a lot of people that's been on the edge.
We've had on the edge of you know, depression, suicide.
We've helped people that are comforts, that are seekers, you know,
that are just got this deeper calling of exploration that

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they get called to. But it's a variety of reasons
that people get called to come to medicine. But it's
always you know, the right time, at the right space.
I always tell people, you know, if you get called
to one of these ceremonies ayahuasca or something, let it
call to you. Don't don't push it, you know, don't
go looking for it. Let let it really things fall

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into place. Let it be you know, calling through a
dream or whatever to these plants, because that's when it
is going to be the most effective for you of
being in alignment and going to it to the right
time and giving it the correct respect because they're very powerful,
especially ayahuasca five MEO DMT. That's you know, Mike Tyson

(01:18:38):
made kind of famous through his experiences, did it like
thirty some times. The first time he did it changed
his whole outlook on life. That's from the Sonorum desert toad.
It's a secretion that's dried out and then vaporized, and
it literally gives you, takes you to source moment, it
gives it brings you into alignment and balance between the

(01:19:01):
two energies that govern our existence. The masculine femine energy
that you know dictates our existence, especially right now in
the physical that comes into complete balance in those moments
in heavy psychedelic ceremonies. That's why they're so powerful for growth,
because if you can get yourself to see what it

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feels like and then eventually you know, you can do
it without. That's really the goal behind any of these
ceremonies is to live a life without the ceremony.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
You know, just.

Speaker 10 (01:19:36):
Enjoy the ceremony of life to its fullest extent. And
that's I think that's where I've come to within these
past couple of years. You know, just I enjoy the
ceremony of life much more than I do the ceremonial
space of being.

Speaker 8 (01:19:51):
With psychedelics and of course mass consciousness can be used
to summon what crafts and being.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Have you ever had any success doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:20:00):
See fives for sure, you know, on intentionally I've also
I'm also a very strong proponent of psychedelic assisted C five's,
you know, small small doses like microdoses psychedelic mushrooms allowing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
To enhance the experience what or to uh, I guess entice.

Speaker 10 (01:20:22):
It to both, you know, to the group will come
into alignment a lot quicker. And that's ultimately the goal
behind C five before quote unquote summing the craft is
getting the group into alignment and the quicker that happens,
you know, the more you can see.

Speaker 8 (01:20:40):
Very interesting, Drew. We appreciate you so much coming on
the program tonight again.

Speaker 10 (01:20:44):
Your website Sacred Journeys Within, or you can find me
through Drew bank any of the socials you know, and
if I checked, make sure it has a blue check mark.
You know all my socials, it's all, all of them
are verified, so make sure as a blue check mark.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Fantastic. Thank you so much for coming on the program.
Best to you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Thank you, Jeremy.

Speaker 8 (01:21:04):
I appreciate it absolutely. Drew Banky our guest tonight. We'll
talk to you next time. Keep your eyes to this guy.
There's lots going on over the coming days. If he
sees something, send me a message let me know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
I'd love to talk about it.