Ep. #761: Troy Anderson – Trump family prophecies

A collection of 19th century literary works by Ingersoll Lockwood has sparked speculation about whether his writings predicted the future, particularly due to striking parallels involving a character known as Baron Trump who is guided by a master named Don and a figure referred to as the last president. Jeremy welcomes Troy Anderson to discuss the connections between the novels and the Trump family's legacy from a Biblical prophecy perspective.

Episode Transcript

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welcome to the program tonight. Somewhere between the paranormal and
the abnormal. I will just preface this by saying this
is not necessarily a political show, although officially we talk

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about the parubnormal of the political if that makes sense.
So if you took a look at the title of
the episode and you thought you would just give us
a listen for a few minutes and see where we're
headed tonight, I hope you'll listen to the entire program
because I'm actually quite fascinated with what we're going to discuss. Tonight,
and if I'm fascinated, perhaps you might find that same

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level of fascination. So just hold on tight and definitely
not going to get into opinions and that sort of
thing and talk about why any person is better than
the other, or why they won or why they lost,
or whatever the case happens to be. But there was

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some stuff that I uncovered that I just could not ignore. Friends,
And so here we go. We're just gonna throw it
on out there. President Donald Trump now is in office.
He has been inaugurated. He was the forty fifth president.
He is now the forty seventh president. This was the

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sixtieth presidential inauguration, and people were saying, well, how is
that possible. Well, presidents served back to back terms. They were,
you know, inaugurated two times, but they were still the
X number of president. So say if you were if

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you serve two terms, you would just get one number.
So that tells me about twelve or thirteen times. Probably
don't quote me, but in history a president has served
back to back terms. Otherwise it's a term here, a
term there, and maybe in the case of President Trump,

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a second term. So he has now taken office, and
of course even before he took office, he had announced
plans to basically cut through the clutter and to declassify
government files relating to actually quite a lot, particularly assassinations.

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President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, civil rights
leader Martin Luther King Junior has said that he's going
to do that, also the UFO files, and also drones.
So all of this is on the table, and this

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may actually be by design. Hang with me here, it's
all going to start to make sense very quickly. So
during his first term, Trump did release some of the
documents concerning JFK's assassination. Perhaps you read about those, but

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he says that he was talked down from basically releasing
the rest. He has said he is not going to
listen to those same people again now in his second term,
and he is going to release what is left, and
that may include private information on people who could still
be living or perhaps they have passed since his last term.

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And that's why he is going to just release this information.
Who knows, but basically also because of the privacy reason,
but also national security concerns. So apparently there are some
national security concerns with releasing that information and he may,

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you know, pay for that in the public eye if
it is determined that our national security is compromised through
doing that. But as mentioned, he's also glad to release
the UFFO files and get to the bottom of the
drone situation. He before he got into office, was criticizing

(05:35):
the federal response, urging more transparency. Says there needed to
be decisive action. I mean, these are all these are
all used terms that politicians use, so I'm using their words.
I could try to color them my own way. He
said the federal response wasn't good enough and said they

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needed to quit lying as much and be more open
with the people. Oh and do something about it. Well,
I guess there's my translation right there, but also says
that there should have been military force use against the drones.
That's something that has been very, very controversial, of course,
because there's collateral damage that comes with that, and we

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don't know if these are manned or not manned, and
if they're manned, that that postes an even bigger threat
than it may be worth, especially it leads to a
world war something of that kind. So with all that

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in mind, let's go back now to the late nineteenth century.
Here American author Ingersoll Lockwood published two children's novels that
featured a protagonist named Baron Trump. These stories titled Travels
and Adventures of Little Baron Trump and Wonderful Dog Bulger

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and Baron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey. They're about this young
German aristocrat, William Heinrich Sebastian van Trump, otherwise known as
Baron Trump, and his fantastical adventures through various underground civilizations.

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See we're getting into the parabnormal here, as you can tell.
Both novels, by the way, in case you care to
look them up, are archived in the US Library of Congress.
That means you can read them for free online. Well
after Donald Trump was elected and took office the first

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time in twenty seventeen, here these novels came out of obscurity.
It was noted quite widely that there were these similarities
between this fictional character Baron Trump, who by the way,
lives in a place called Castle Trump. Similarities between Baron

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and the President because for those who don't know, Baron,
of course, is the name of Donald's youngest son, but
is actually spelled with two rs n. The Baron Trump
in Ingersoll Lockwood's writings was just one R B A

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R O N. But another one of Lockwood's writings, nineteen hundred,
To the Last President, takes it even a step further
because it depicts a populist president's unexpected election leading to unrest. Well,

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we had many who would say it was unexpected. Some
people say, well, yeah, I knew that was gonna happen,
depending on what side they're on, but we could say
it was in some people's minds unexpected was their unrest. Yes,

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So this whole narrative draws comparatiss to political events of
our times, and the question is are these connections beyond coincidental.
We're going to talk about this somewhere between the paranormal
and the abnormal tonight. I'm Jeremy Scott.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Into the.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal across America tonight.
I'm Jeremy Scotce. So there are some that say the
win of President Donald Trump was not a coincidence, it
was prophetic in fact, I mean that's their opinion. Many
have researched it. They've looked at, you know, spiritually, through

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literature and also in you know secular writings like the
writings of Ingersoll Lockwood in the late nineteenth century. As
we've discussed, and as crazy as it may seem, there's
a theory that the Trump family has had access to

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time travel for many years because of the president's uncle,
John Trump, who was an engineer, and word is he
reportedly had papers on Nikola Tesla's research about time travel,

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and so taking that a step further, the theory says
that through that knowledge, somehow it enabled Trump to win,
in particular the twenty sixteen presidential election and perhaps again

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in twenty twenty four and perhaps Baron Trump if you
look at the right the picture on the book looks
very similar to Baron Trump of current days. And so

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there's even the theory that he time traveled, right, because
in the book, Baron Trump is mentored by a mysterious
figure known as the Master of Masters. Because again he

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goes onto this journey, right, you know what I was
telling you was going to get to pair of normal
on these fantastical adventures through various underground civilizations. And so
there's this mysterious Master who reveals this portal which allows

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little Baron to travel to other worlds. The man's name,
Don Constantino, Bartolomio Strefalo, fijigarsk from That's all I got,
But apparently everybody, for obvious reasons, just calls him down.

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There are some who believe that the results of the
presidential election was prophetic. The polls are the results from
the election say that eighty percent of white evangelical voters
supported Trump. Many of view his return to office as
part of some sort of divine plan, and especially after

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he survived assassination attempts, many believe that even more so today.
I'm thrilled to bring onto the program to discuss this
with us tonight. Troy Anderson a pull Blitzer Prize nominated
investigative journalist and best selling author. His latest book is
The Trump Code, exploring time travel, Nikola Tesla, the Trump

(14:10):
lineage in America's Future. He is the founder and president
of the Inspire Literary Group and vice president of Battle
Ready Ministries. Troy, good to have you here.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
Hi, Jeremy. It's great to be on your show.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Absolutely, I mean, what do you make of all of this?
Is this too too far fetched at all?

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (14:34):
The Trump Co sort of puts together this five thousand
piece jigsaw puzzle of how Trump fits into unfolding end
time events, and it explores these different prophecies. You may
recall Kim Complent, This Australian prophet this is waiting for
Trump was elected, made all these prophecies and some of
those came true. Even talked about a second term for

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the president, which has now happened. You might recall Bark
Taylor the Fireman book, I think it was called The
Trump Prophecy, and he he supposedly got these downloads about
different things, and some of those things came through.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
There's a film about that.

Speaker 8 (15:07):
So we talked about these different things, and we also
talk about Brendan Biggs. It's got a big YouTube show
and he foresaw beforehand this this president getting shot in
the ear. And then there's a guy named Joseph z
also like a prophetic voice, and he talked about the
shot heard around the world before the attempted assassination. So

(15:27):
we talked about some of these these modern day prophecies
and the prophecies of the Bible that we are. You know,
I've been investigating or moving into these end time events
for the last fifteen years, and so he would explore
how sort of Trump fits into that scenario. And then
the most intriguing things that you've been talking about is
the Baron Trump Collection. These these series of novels from
by Ingersol Lockwood that that appear prophetic in nature. Maybe

(15:50):
it's sort of like, you know, think about you know
all those books he read his kids, George Orwell's you know,
nineteen eighty four, you know, Big Brother or Wealthy and State.
You know, we're limited that time now, or like I'll
just hunt these brave new worlds or this dystopian future
world that we're watching unfold now or Ray Bradbury's Spaaraheit

(16:11):
four fifty one of the book burnings you today got
all the censorship and then cancel culture. So Trump sort
of unpacks this whole thing that explores all these mysteries.
The Baron Trump Collection is time travel possible. It's sort
of the fun part of it and puts the whole
puzzle together.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, it brings up an intriguing thought, especially with the
book called The Last President, And so what are the
chances that Trump is the last president and he's carrying
out all of these end times events, basically releasing all
of the secrets.

Speaker 8 (16:49):
Yeah, so I guess to sort of answer that question.
I'll tell you sort of the background here. So you know,
I've been a journalist for over three decades, a report
of the LA Daily News for many years. And in
two thousand and nine, this guy at church said, Hey,
there's going to be this prophecy conference at Calgary Chapel,
Chilah Hills. I became a believer in a little town
in Oregon when I was eleven. All these all these

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Jesus people for southern California invaded my hometown in VW
Bands And one of these guys had trained under Howl Lindsay,
who wrote the book The Late Great Planet Earth, the
sort of popularized Bible Prophecy was sold like thirty five
million copies. He gave me a copy that when I
was eleven, I read that I became a Christian. So
I've always been interested in prophecy. And then so then
in two thousand and nine, I hear about this conference

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and it's at Calvary Chapel, Tiina Hills. I'm a reporter
at the LA Daily News and I managed a talk
manager is going to cover this, and so there's like
three thousand people there. Tim Lahay wrote the Left behind series.
He's there, you know, sold like sixty million copies. And
then Paul McGuire, my first co author, is there. He
used to have a nationally syndicated radio show, and so
he says, the world is undergoing the greatest transformation since

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the Tower of Babbel, becoming global government, cast in society,
and universal religion. He said that I flashed back to
the late great Platters, and I thought to myself, I'm
an investigative journalist. I thought, if this is true, this
is a gigantic story. So I introduced myself to and
he had a book that he'd self posted at the
time called The Day the Dollar Died and talk about
you know, Bible prophecy and secret societies and all times

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of these intriguing subjects. So we became friends, and that
eventually led to my first book, which is called The
Babylon Code. It was an exposaic globalism, expression of mystery
Babylon and the Book of Revelation. And this one pastor
he was so inspired by that book that he delivered
a whole box of The Babylon Code to the Trump
team in early twenty sixteen, and then two months later,

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Trump announced an Americanism, not globalism, will be his credo
as his platform for president. And then you know, he
won that bombshell election in November twenty sixteen, and our
our agent came back to us and said, why don't
you guys write a book called Trump Apocalypse? Look at
how Trump is sort of fits into these unfolding end
time events.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
And I did this interview with Billy Graham back in
twenty thirteen, a seventh part World in that Daily series,
and one thing he said, this stuck with me, and
I included this in the Babylon Code and included intro apocalypse.
He said, when God sent the prophet Jonah to Ninevah
to warrant judgment the king and the people repented, that
he believed the same thing can happen again, this time
in America.

Speaker 8 (19:15):
It's it's the only example in the Bible where God
was intending the judged nation and then didn't because they
repented and turned back to God. And so this last
year of March eighth, we had this great North American
eclipse and it went through all these towns called Nineveh.
So I used to be editor of a Cribon magazine,
which is a Christian magazine, and I wrote a story
called is this sort of Nineva moment? Our chance to

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turn back to God?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Holdo, I thought, Troy Anderson, our guest. We must pause,
but we'll be back.

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Speaker 3 (21:39):
Is a nineteenth century prophecy playing out here in the
twenty first century? Is Trump the Last President? Talking with
Troy Anderson Tonight, author of The Trump Code, exploring time travel,
Nicola Tesla, the Trump lineage, and America's future. All right, Troy,

(22:03):
you were talking about the eclipse as we were headed
to break because I had asked you, is are the
end days events? You know playing out now? Is Trump
the the last president? And uh, you know, carrying out
you know, the release of potentially UFO files JFK M

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l K r f K signaling that these days are
upon us.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
Yes, So, in terms of the question, is Trump the
last president?

Speaker 8 (22:38):
Because that's that's the the final book and the Baron
Trump collection The Last President. So uh so my my
second book, Trump Pocalypse, inspired by the interview Big Grand
We called for a nationally rependance. There hadn't been one
in America. It's Abraham Lincoln. And so this friend of ours,
Kevin Jessop, he ran with it. He neverworked the Who's
Who I excerid. Rabbi Jonathan Condeby to spokesman, he's a

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New York Times bestsellinger. There he asked us to write
the White House Executive Summon. And then this event actually happened.
It was called the Returns on the National Mall. A
quarter million people showed up. Forty two million people watched this.
President Trump flew over Marine one, issued a proclamation for
the Day of Prayer and returney the first president to
do this since Abraham Lincoln. This is on September twenty six,
twenty twenty, right before that election, and everybody thought he

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was going to win. And then he didn't win, and
and so you know why, you know, so if you know,
God allowed that, right, so why why did God allow that?
You know, despite whatever really happened. And I think I
think God wanted to humble Trump and He wanted to
wake up the world how evil and corrupt everything's become.
And so the last four years we got a glimpse
of what, you know, sort of like what totalitarian government

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might look like.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
We got to see how evil and co crupt everything is.

Speaker 8 (23:44):
And then forty days before the election, I you know,
because we had that that, you know, the great fourth
American climpse with who always tell us called Ninema. That's
what Billy Braham talked about, the Ninema moment. And so
I wrote a start for cris but is this our
nimum moment? A chance to turn back to God? So
forty days before this election and I called for forty
days of prayer, fast and repentance, forty days to say
in America.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Chrisman Media promoted it. Pastor Paul Beagley.

Speaker 8 (24:07):
I wrote Revelation nine to eleven with him, and he's
got a gigantic YouTube show, like two hundred and sixty
million views. He promoted it and several other pastors and
millions of people around the world.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
They may not have been heard what we're doing, but I.

Speaker 8 (24:19):
Think they're spontaneously inspired by the Holy Spirit, and they
just sort of praying faster repenting just like you know,
God told, just like they did in ancient NINEVA say
that God intervened in Saint Ninevah. And so then we
saw this, this election of President Trump. I mean he
survived everything, you know, they and the impeachments, the lawfare,
the assassination attempts. I mean, they threw everything they possibly

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could at him, and now he's been elected.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
But it's just like this.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
I think it's miraculous and nature that he even made
it in there, because pretty much everybody, you know, I've
been you know, exploring Bible prophecy for forty years and
interviewed pretty much a who's who, everybody that's you know,
knowledgeable out about this, Bible scholars and pretty much everybody
believes that we were we were on the verge of
heading into this this one government, this great reset plan, uh,

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you know, the precursors to the events of Book of Revelations.
I think God has just intervened in human affairs. He's
put this on hold, and so I think he's looking
closely at how we as Christians are going to react
to this, or are we just going to go back
to country club church, or are we going to actually
do what you know, Jus called us to do, and
so I think we're run like this prophetic pause, sort

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of like ancient Nineva got saved, you know, one hundred
years later they went bad again, they are eventually destroyed.
So I think we're at this critical moment in history.
So that's what the Trump Code looks at is, you know,
is Trump the last president?

Speaker 7 (25:35):
Or are we going to blow it again? Or we
you know, or could Baron could his son end up
being president you know, decades from now. So I think
God's put the ball in our court and that's where
we are prophetically.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Now interesting does it say how this comes to be?
Who whoever is the last president? Why they are the
last president? Do they become a dictator? Is there no
law in order? Is society totally broken down?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (26:07):
So this I mean this, this this book that Ingersol
Lockwood wrote, this, this Baron Trump collection, This Last President,
that's the one. Like the Newsweek has done stories on
this in the Daily Mail and Politico, and it just
seems like it's more than coincidental. So if you think
about the Bible, about a third of the Bible's prophetic
in nature, and Bible scholars tell me about two thousand,
the Bible's twenty five hundred prophecies have come.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
To an exacting detail. And I've studied this for four decades.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
I've wrote hundreds of books, I've done hundreds of interviews,
you know, the most prominent faith leaders in the world,
and it has persuaded me that this is all really happening.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
We're sort of at that verge of this thing.

Speaker 8 (26:42):
And so you know, if if God's sort of put
a pause and everything right now, and He's sort of
sort of put the ball in her court, maybe maybe
we've seen these pockets revival, maybe he wants to see,
you know, more revival breakout. Christians share the good news,
bring many people into God's kingdom as possible before the
events of relation happened. And so I think that's where
we're at. And in terms of, you know, could President

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Trump be the last president? We only like a four
year term, four years before all these things begin to unfold,
you and only God knows, but I think, you know,
But it is intriguing that in that book, the last
President says, this populist president is elected. It says that
anarchists and the socialists converge on castle Trump shouting death
to the rich Man. And then it says that essentially,

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you know, chaos and unrest breaks out and sort of
civil war, and it says, actually the military's call it.
So we haven't seen that happen. We had these strange things,
these these drones. We don't know where these are from.
You know, are they from China, are they UFOs? Are
they our own? You know, uh drones? You know those
reports that they're searching for some kind of you know,

(27:47):
maybe suitcase nukes or things like that. We just don't
know exactly what's going on there. But and then you know,
there's just all these chaotic things happening in the world.
So it's I think this book, you know, can God,
you know, show there's something mysterious about writing.

Speaker 7 (28:01):
So I think God can show fictional writers.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
He can show people propetic gifts, you know, of course
the prophets in the Bible, you know, Nora Damis maybe
to a certain extent. And then they're dipping psychics around
the world to see them get things right. So there's
it's a very intriguing subject.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Who's the rich man?

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Well, yeah, the rich.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
Man must be you know, President Trump, you know, because
that's that's sort of his you know, everything's gold. You know,
he's a he's a billionaire. And you know, I remember
reading those comics as a kid, Richie Rich. I don't
know if that was inspired by President Trump, but he's
like a little rich boy or a little blond rich boy.
So you know, I think the rich man is is
President Trump. And and but we haven't seen this whole

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thing play out yet. I mean, he just got you know,
he just took the oath of office a few days ago,
and so you know, it's still still very very early
in his his second second term.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Absolutely, But there's also similarities, particularly in the looks of
one Baron Trump, right.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
Yeah, that's one of the most striking thing is the
drawing of that picture that little boy on the Baron
Trump collection was you know, written in eighteen nineties. It
looks strikingly like Baron Trump, you know, the President's son
when he was when he was a boy. I mean,
it's there's a very striking resemblance. And so so the
so the really you know, the other intriguing thing.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
That you brought up as this whole time travel thing.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
So yeah, we'll get to that when we come back
to try Anderson our guest author of the Trump Code,
I'm Jeremy Scott. Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
This is just a short two minute time.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Trap game to the par.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm Jeremy Scott, said Troy Anderson as our guest tonight
on into the pair of normal. Okay, So did the
Trump family have access to time travel research? That is
the question, Troy.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
Yeah, So that's it's a very intriguing question, and I
explore that in the Trump Coast. As you mentioned at
the beginning of the show. Nick lea tesla, you know,
lived in New York City. He was an elderly man.
This is the nineteen forties and World War Two, and
he died in nineteen forty three. Now he's considered sort
of the architect or modern world. Our electric grid is

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based off his his inventions. He talked about the possibility
of time travel as an Einstein de factor, was a
professor at Princeton wrote time Travel in Einstein Universe. There's
been a lot of research into this and it's a
very intriguing subject. And so this very strange thing and
so you know, the Trump Collections about this little boy
Baron Trump that goes on his time pal and adventures
and uh and then you know, just strangely enough, when

(31:08):
Tesla died, the FBI asked, you know, Donald Trump's uncle
and highly respective professor of physics at m I t
to look at eighty trunks of research and papers and
documents that Tesla strewn from hotel to hotel in New
York City, and uh, you know, reporters that go interview him,
and he was at one point he said, I've invented

(31:28):
what's called the death ray. And so the idea was, uh,
with this invention, if the Nazis attacked to attacked us
with nuclear bonds like we ultimately attacked Japan, this weapon
supposedly could vaporize their their air force from a distance.
And so there was sort of a national security interest
in looking at what Tesla come up with. And so
Donald Trump's uncle came back and an official report was, well,

(31:51):
I don't think there's anything of national security interest among
all these documents. But then all these files went missing
and the History Channel had a special not too long ago,
I interviewed the author who wrote the books was based
off of and sort of the idea is that the
you know, the government may have used these genius inventions
from Tesla zero point injury, possibly time travel kind of
stuff to invent all kinds of top secret weaponry and

(32:12):
technologies over the over the decades. And Trump's uncle was
involved in this. So so what exactly does the Trump
family know? Uh, We're actually in the process of turning
the Trump Code into a film, and if I get
a chance to interview President Trump, it's going to be
a very intriguing interview to find out what they do know.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
Because he named his Sonbaron.

Speaker 8 (32:30):
And and there's been videos on TikTok and YouTube there's
Trump a time travel It's got millions and millions of views.
People having fun with this. But you know here, you know,
your show's about the paranormal and the sun. The British
newspaper filed a feder of Information Act requests in the
federal government a few years ago as part of these

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Congressional UAP UFO hearings on Capitol Hill, and the Defense
Intelligence says they released a bunch of documents and they
came back and said that the government government bleaks time
travel maybe possible, and they explain how these UAPs are
getting here, maybe through wormholes, quantum physics, that kind of thing.
So we don't know exactly what the government has in

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terms of these technologies, but it's a very intriguing question.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
And why what does President Trump know?

Speaker 8 (33:15):
I mean, he's teamed up with you know, Elon Musk,
you know, is involved in this space exploration and this
kind of thing we're talking about going to Mars.

Speaker 7 (33:23):
So there's a lot of very intriguing things going on today.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, absolutely, So what Baron Trump could have been a
time traveler and now living obviously in a different form
at least one hundred years into the future.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, I'm a Christian,
so I mean, but it's an intriguing question even for
me though. You know, the Bible tells us God's outside
of time and space. He did show all these profits
the future. Like if you think about think about the
Mount of Transfiguration story in the Bible, Jesus on the
Mount of Transfiguration, he's joined his shining the glory of God,
and you're joined by Moses and Elijah and so so

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how did they get there? So, you know, Moses and
if people would think back, he's on Mount sy and
I he's received the Ten Commandments, and he comes down
off the mountain and he's shining the glory of God
so brightly they have to put a veil on his face.
And so did God bring him from the past to
you know, to Jesus bring him from the past to
the non transfiguration and sort of similar story Elaida.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
And then there's all kinds of mysterious stories in the Bible.

Speaker 8 (34:27):
We think about the Ezekiel's wheel, the chariots of fire,
you know, Philip, he's one place, he pops into another place.
Jesus appears in the middle of a room. And think
about the apostle John the Book of Revelation. Was he
taken into the future and showing all these things that
are supposed are going to happen in the future. So, uh,
you know, and what does the government know about this?

(34:47):
A friend of mine, he's got, you know, good friends
at the CIA in the NSA, he read the Trump
called he's all fascinated by it that he called. He goestory,
he goes, you're not going to believe this. He goes,
the government does have some of this stuff, he said
that you know, supposed they can. Uh, this might be
part of their remote viewing program. But he says, it's
someone that they can go from one place to their
politice and you know, I don't know how to do that,

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but and pick up an object actually bring that object back.
And so we don't know exactly what the government has,
but you know that they may have something along these lines,
and and it calls into question, you know, the nature
of reality and what's really happening today. And and of
course all these these UFO and UFP reports that you know,
millions of people are reporting. But in my daddy, you know,
in the fish cannery and little town in Oregon, this.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
Is I think back in the sixties.

Speaker 8 (35:32):
He said that, you know, the fishermen on the dock
and all of a sudden they see like this squadron
armada of like lights up in the sky like you
know UFOs, and everybody's watching it. Everybody sees it. And
he said, then all of a sudden, they just shot
through the atmosphere like you know in a you know, bolt,
the lighting kind of thing. And so even even my dad,
you don't report it seeing some strange things. So it's

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pretty very intriguing.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
And then almost mastered down similarity to Donald. And so
if Donald or Don was a a time traveler again,
all possible apparently through.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
His uncle, Right, Yeah, I mean that that's uh, I
mean it seems hard to believe, but you know, uh,
as you learned more and more about the world, about
what's really going on, and and you know, more is
revealed to us. And you know, I've read hundreds and
hundreds of books on UFOs and UAPs and prophecy and
all these things, and uh, it's it's it's very intriguing

(36:31):
as you delve into it. Was it Shakespeare said that,
I'm not not quoting them accurately, but there there's far
more you know to the world than what you what
you see, you know, and and I think, you know,
it's true that the nature of the universe that God
has created as is infinite, and and there's all kinds
of very intriguing things that we don't completely understand at

(36:54):
this point.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
No, So what really got you in inspired to take
a look at this particular connection between the Trump family
time travel and and really even secret societies which we
haven't delved into yet.

Speaker 8 (37:13):
Yeah, so I sort of sort of told that story about,
you know, how how this whole journey sort of began,
this this fifteen year journey of you know, investigatory moving
into these end time events, and that the critical point
was the interview with Billy Graham, the world renowned evangelist.
They talked about, you know, the Nine of Us story.
You know, of course we know from you know, Sunday School.

Speaker 7 (37:34):
You know, God sent the prophet Jonah to nine about
to warn of them judgment.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
So had awakening, Yeah, yeah, and and so uh you know,
so it's it's it's sort of this, you know, looking
into all this and then when I wrote that story
for Chrisma, is that's our minimum moment.

Speaker 8 (37:50):
That's when Chrisma came back to me and they asked
me to write the Trump Code sort of put this
whole thing together. And now we've seen Trump's re election,
and so you know, I just see it as a
you know, the Bible talks about God raises up leader,
he deposes leaders, and so now he's you know, I
think God's played a part in this interview in human affairs,
and Trump's in there. There's a there's a purpose for it,

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there's a destiny for it, and we don't know exactly
what it is at this point, but I mean he's
he you know, is one of the most unlikely people
to you know, help lead the revival. But I understand
that he may actually give I asked him, the publisher
sent him a copy of the Trump Code. He sent
me a letter thanking me for writing the Trump Code.

(38:33):
And I understand he may actually give an Oval Office
address calling the nation to repentance and revival. So we'll
have to have to wait and see if that actually happens.
But we live in everaging times.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Were there secret societies within the Trump family?

Speaker 7 (38:49):
You know, we explored that in the Trump poculis.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
So I remember I interviewed Jerry Jenkins, he co wrote
the Left Behind series of Tim Lahay, and he said,
we sold like sixty seventy million copies. He said, about
half the mail they got uh from fans or would
be like, you know, one president's the Antichrist. One you know,
the other person, you know, other other candidacy antichrist. And

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so so it's like half the country thinks that Trump's,
you know, the Antichrist. Half the country thinks that, you know,
God's using them to help heself, save the save the world,
save the country, and and so you know, exactly how
does he fit into all this and and what exactly
is happening that.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
That's a very intriguing question.

Speaker 8 (39:30):
But uh uh, you know what you know, you know,
you know, you know, you know, as you know, it's
very very divisive out there.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
It certainly is. Troy. What's your website.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
It's Troy Anderson dot us and you can find all
my books on there. We've got some uh some newsletters,
revelation watchers dot com, Prophacy messengers dot com. And we said,
all kinds of interesting articles and videos on these topics
are fantastic.

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(42:18):
to Troy Anderson's book, which is of course The Trump Code,
exploring time travel, Nicola Tesla, the Trump lineage, and America's future. So,
as far as these a secret societies are concerned, do
you think that they have influenced events globally political events?

Speaker 7 (42:47):
Yeah, so I've delved into that in all my different books.
So this may be of interest to your audience. I'm
going to send it to Frederick Bondschiller. He's the poet
that wrote Oh to Joy that Beethoven said the music
in the Ninth Symphony. And he lived in late seventeen
hundreds and wrote a number of famous plays like Rhes
Steward about Mary, Queen of Scott's and William Tell about

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the Swiss hero shoots the arrow through an apple a
tapa's son's head and he kills the tyrant that made
him do that. Those real popular play in America in
eighteen hundreds. And so when he lived in late late
seventeen hundreds, almost all his friends were members of the
original Bavarian Illuminatis, actual secret society that existed in Germany.
Back then.

Speaker 8 (43:30):
Gerty was a leading member and sort of like the
princes of Germany and the royalty and that kind of
thing role members of this. It was real popular. And
the leader of the Illubinati he sent a messenger, as
a story goes, with some documents talking about their plans.
And so this messenger, as this story goes, was supposedly

(43:52):
struck by lightning and killed. And when they found when
the authorities found the body, they found these documents in
his soda, in his jacket, and they talked about the
new world order through revolution, and this is before the
French Revolution took place, and so the you know, the
authorities were stunned and shocked by what was going on

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here because they had talked about abolishing the Catholic Church
and overthrowing the monarchies of Europe. And it's before the
French Revolution took place, and so they banned the Illuminati
by very illuminatis, and supposedly, you know, either it ceased
to exist or it went underground. And I don't know
if you ever interviewed Jim Mars, he's a corporate investator.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
No, I meant to, and then he passed away. What
was it almost ten years ago?

Speaker 8 (44:39):
Yeah, he was an investigative reporter at the Fort Worth
Star Telegram and he wrote a number of New York
Times bestsellers, and his last book I interviewed a couple
of times, and I included his interviews in some of
my books. His last book was called The Illuminati, The
Secret Society that Hijacked the World, and he told the
entire story of the Illuminati from the you know, late
seventeen hundreds all the way up till today. And what

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he claimed is that the Illuminati, even though it was
banned uh in in Germany, at the time, and it
just went underground and filtrated Freemason, which is actually the
largest uh secret society in the world today.

Speaker 7 (45:11):
I think they got like two to six.

Speaker 8 (45:13):
Million members and you know, almost every city in America
has a has a lodge and that kind of thing.
So the idea is that the Illuminati and filtrated Freemasonry,
and so the upper echelons of Freemasonry is actually sort
of this Illuminati and they're they're connected to this this
big network around the world today supposedly, you know, so
it involves you know, you hear often stories about you

(45:33):
like the Builderberg Group and they have these Klindi Stide
meetings in Europe bringing the world's elite, uh, you know,
the world economic form during the pandemic, a gloss Job
you know, came out announced a great reset of capitalism,
sort of the rebranded New World Order kind of idea.
And so some of my books have explored, you know,
what kind of impact do these secret societies have their

(45:53):
connections of you know, the United Nations and you know
the course we've got like you know, Skull and Bones. Uh,
there's a book I forget his name now, but he
was at Stanford and he had looked at the connection
between the Skull and Bone secret society that George Bush
was a number of and the link to the old
but very Illuminati. A lot of their traditions are very similar.
So maybe it's sort of like the American counterpart to

(46:15):
a certain extent. And and then of course you've got
Bohemian Grove here in California where you know, world leaders
and the elite meet, and you know that's a secret sidey.
You know, I think Alex Jones did it, like an
undercover camera of that thing and the sacrifice ceremonial, I
forget the name of it, but this, you know, today
you can just go down to the grocery store and

(46:36):
you can pick up you know, the Time magazine or
the newswek special in secret societies, and they'll tell you
all these you know, all about this. And so you know,
throughout history there's always been you know, these sort of
like you know, you know, the ancient empires would have
wizards and magicians and sorcerers and that kind of thing,
and this is sort of the modern iteration of that.
And you know, the powers always had sort of like

(46:58):
their profits and they're that kind of of thing. And so, uh,
these these are to a certain extense, sort of the
behind the scenes power brokers in our world, and so
they play a big part in what's happening. And you know,
I have some you know, personal experience in my own
family with this and and so so I explore all
this and in my various books, including The Trump Code
and Trump's possible connection to secret society.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, but you say possible connections. So we're members of
the Trump family involved in the New World Order Illuminati.

Speaker 8 (47:27):
Well, of course, you know a lot of people, you know,
I think that, like like I mentioned earlier, you know,
maybe half the country thinks he could be the Antichrists.
Other half thinks he's helped, you know, God's using to
help save the country and save the world. So in
my second book, Trump Pococal, we looked into this question,
is he connected to some kind of secret society?

Speaker 7 (47:44):
And here's here's sort of way that.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
There's a lot of stuff on the internet, of course,
but one thing we do know is that, uh, his
his pastor, and he's going up with Norman Vincent Peel,
who is the author of the Power of Positive Thinking,
is to make New York Times best selling book about
you know how positive thinking and that kind of thing.
And he's a thirty second degree Mason, and so does
does trump You know, he was a pastor of this church,

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and of course you know there's but most you know,
I understand that most Freemason's, uh, you know that they
sort of viewed as like a sort of like a
like the Elks Club or something like that, sort of
a businessman's you know, fellowshipping kind of group, and it's
good for business and that kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (48:20):
But when you get to the higher levels that's supposed.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
When you get pretty more to the you know, the
inside information.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
So Trumpet does had he had that pastor, that connection.

Speaker 8 (48:30):
But but in terms of whether he's actually a member
of a secret society, we never could really determine. And
so I mean, he probably knows the number of people.
I remember here a few years ago, my my literary agent,
he knows this Christian billionaire and we were talking about
turning one of my books into a film. That's we
had a meeting with him and he's like, uh, he
goes to Troy, he goes I know all about these

(48:51):
secret societies. He pulled out his phone and he showed
you because a lot of my friends are members of
these And he showed the phone and is like, here's here,
like the secret handshake, here's this the symbol is like
show knowle his picture and stuff. And and so I
think when you when you when you run those kind
of circles, it's it's more well known. Most of the
public is just you know, sort of here's things here
and there. But you know, I really do believe that

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they they these things exist and they exert a lot
of you know, undue influence upon the governments and political
leaders of the planet.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
All Right, I don't think we'll have a full time
to get your complete answer on this, but maybe get
it started and then we'll hold you over through the break.
You know, as far as I mentioned earlier, many believe
that Trump's victory was some sort of prophecy being fulfilled
as part of a divine plan. Are there prophecies that

(49:49):
come into play here thirty seconds? Please?

Speaker 7 (49:53):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (49:53):
I mean, you know, of course the Bible doesn't mention,
you know, President Trump, but you know, the Bible does
talk about these unfolding events. You know, Jesus supposed to
watch for signs of his return, and and you know,
we see many of those things today. I including a
whole list in Revelation, my last book, Revelation nine to eleven.
Things like you know, the the verse in Revelation about

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the two witnesses being slain in the entire world and
they'll see that. So for the first time in history
we have with satellite you know, with cell phones, everybody
can watch something like that occur.

Speaker 7 (50:23):
Or the market of the Bast system, you can actually
have this mark of the Beast where you can't buy
or sell. Now today, with all.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Right, more to come, try Anderson our guest tonight, I'm
Jeremy Scott. Somewhere between the paranormal and the.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
EBB into the para normal pair of.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Are these signs of a second coming? I'm Jeremy Scott
with Troy Anderson tonight into the pair of normal? All right, Chroy,
you were giving us some of the examples here, and
you know, the mark of the Beast is certainly one
that has freaked a lot of people out, something that

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you would have to submit to in order to carry
out life on a somewhat normal level. I guess yes.

Speaker 8 (51:29):
So what you know the postile John told us in
Revelation thirteen is that at some point. This is most
likely during the what's called the tribulation prayer, when the
Antichrist and false profit become like these global dictators, you
have this one wrong government, they'll implement what's called the market,
the bt system. And so the Bible says, you will
build a buy or sell about this this mark whatever
whatever it is, you know, it could it be a
computer chip implant or brain implant, you know, now technology

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we just don't exactly know, but you you will be able
to participate in the economic system. And so you'll and
essentially says if you don't take this, you'll be actually
be beheaded. And and you know, you know, Apostle jenre
for God, you know, Jesus warned, you know, through Apostle
John warned, if you do take the market the beast,
you'll you'll, you know, you'll be doomed to hell essentially,
and so it's it's and so today we have artificial intelligence,

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and also that the versus the Bible talks about the
image of the beast, and so you know, could that
be a reference to artificial intelligence. And now there's reports
coming out that they're, you know, in the war in Ukraine,
they're using like AI commanders AI systems, So you know
it's a possible. You know, remember the Terminator movie. You
know that you could have military.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Trump now just made a major investment in AI.

Speaker 8 (52:38):
Yeah, and uh, you know the Project Stargate. They just
they just talk about that the other day. And so,
you know, could a I end up being like this
because the Bible talks about who can make war against
the beast. So if you had this AI system that
becomes you know, controls the military and controls nuclear weapons
and computers, you know, maybe that's what the Apostle John,

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you know, and two thousand years a will trying to
warn us of. You know, because we already have electronic banking,
they're moving towards the digital currencies, which you know though
if that happens, you know, you won't have cash where
you can have transactions. I mean, everything can be monitored.
Like in China they have the social credit score system,
so if you don't sort of tow the communist line,
they can turn off your bank account. They can you know,

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we won't go to rent apartments, you can get airplane tickets,
you know, things like that, and so it's this total
control system. I mean Hitler would have. You know, this
will be his dream to have that kind of control,
and with these technologies, we're potentially moving into that kind
of world.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
So the question is, is President to Trump part of
this whole rise of you know, the mark rise of AI,
the mark of the Beast and everything else.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
Well, I mean, you know, you know a lot of
a lot of people believe that, right, I don't believe that.
I think he's uh, I mean, being president, you know,
is such a you have so many different voices, so
many different things, so many different influences. You know, maybe
he doesn't you know, it has President Trump studying Bible prophecy,
probably not right, and so maybe he doesn't understand all

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these things, and so it could he be inavertently sort
of duped into it. But but plus there's also there's
an economic you know part of this. You know, he
wants to restore American prosperity and these kind of things
and jobs and so you know, you know, it's it's
it's sort of like it's all happening and you can
can't we stop AI? Can we you know, put put
the brakes onto me. It sounds that doubtful, And so

(54:38):
I don't think he's consciously part of this. But could
he be you know, uh, inadvertently contributing to this. I
mean only time hotel, only God really does uh. But yeah,
we just don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
You know, as far as the divination of those who
believe that this was you know, a prophetic win of sorts.
I mean, Trump's life was spared, he was you know,
turn one direction or another. It is split second, and
he may be dead and we may be in a

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much different position at this time. And so there was
somebody obviously looking over him that day. We can safely say, right.

Speaker 8 (55:23):
Yeah, yeah, he's come out and said that he lives,
that God saved his life. And so I mean I
essentially wrote all these books because I believe that we
were moving into this, you know, this end time system,
this what the Book of Revelation warns them. And I
believe we were on the verge of this. I believe
that if Kamala Harris had won, that we would most
likely be on this accelerated track towards this great reset plan,

(55:46):
you know, this one world system. And the elite are
open about this. They have world government summits they're talking
about they want to have a world government, you know
of course, you know they say things we want on
just extreme climate change. You want to eliminate nuclear bombs.
We want to alleviate poverty, want to bring peace to
the world. That you know, the Apostle John warned is
it's not going to work out that way. And so
I think we're on the.

Speaker 7 (56:06):
Verge of that.

Speaker 8 (56:06):
I think God intervened, he saved his life, he put
him back into office. We're getting this temporary reprieve. And
and the purpose of this, I believe is that, you know,
we've had these pockets revival. We had that that movie
Jesus Revolution that came out. Pastor regularis film more popular,
and then you had the Asbury Revival, these across the country,
all these you know baptisms, the kid he had Sean
Foyt do these outdoor events, Mario Mourley, these these tent

(56:29):
revivals here in Orange County. You know, Pastor Regulary has
been out there Pirate's Code where the Jesus move started
baptizing thousands of people. So I think he has some
of these pockets revival beginning. Bible sales are up twenty
two percent. Young people are going to church, they're becoming
you know, thanks to you know, Joe Rogan and Tucker
Carlson and Megan Kelly.

Speaker 7 (56:49):
And Russell Brand. These these guys are had these gigantic platforms.
They're talking about their faith in Jesus. And so I
think this, this is what the you know, God's heart is.
He loves this. He's very paid. He see his long stuffer,
and he wants us to turn back to him. And
so he's giving it a chance to do that, and
he's he's using the most unlikely people to do it,
people like President Trump and you know all the other
guy that just mentioned sort of the most unlikely characters,

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which is sort of what he did in the Bible too.

Speaker 8 (57:13):
And so I it's it's it's you know, so I
try to you know, I wrote all these books to
help wake up the world, and now I'm actually working.

Speaker 7 (57:19):
On a book. Now.

Speaker 8 (57:20):
Could we had this revival? Could this revival grow and
sort of encourage people to pray, draw close to God?

Speaker 7 (57:25):
That kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Interesting. So, as far as you know a possible last president,
you know, I had asked earlier, you know, what happens?
Do we know? And you know, based on what we've heard,
if we are headed down the road of a one
world government. Well, there wouldn't be a president of the
United States, there would be you know, a president of

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whatever society. X.

Speaker 6 (57:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (57:52):
And that's what I said that Trump, because you know,
like God's put the ball in our court, you know.
You know, I was so inspired by you know, billion
Billy Graham, you know, the most prominent evangelist in the
twentieth century. I had this amazing interview with him, and
and he told that story of nineva the only example
in the Bible where God, you know, spared the nation.

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And so I think it just happened again. You know,
Billy Graham said he believed in this nine of the moment.
I think I think it just happened. And especially if
if President Trump from the Oval office calls a nation
of repentance and revival, he'd be like the ancient king
and nin of it doing that, which is exactly what
the King of Ninevah did. And so I think we're
at this pivotal time in history. And so if Christians
is believers in Christ, if we will like share the Gospel,

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if we'll be authentic about our faith, well turned from
our wicked ways like that burst and Second Chronicle says,
then this this period of reprieve could go on for
an extended period of time. We could see this revival
could continue. We see this big turnaround the world, turn
around in America. It could be a very hopeful time.
But if we if we just continue with business as usual,
if to go back, would become complacent. We you know, oh,

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you know, thank God, you know, Trump send there. I
don't worry by anythingnymore. We don't do what we're supposed
to do. Then maybe Trump ends up being the last
president and several years down the road, but we do
move into the events of book revelation, and that's it.
But I don't want to see that, you know, I
want to see I don't want to happen on my
watch for my children, my grandchildren. I want this, you know,
to continue. So I want to encourage people to inspire

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people to, you know, to get serious of God and
turn back and and see what you know, destiny and
what purpose He has for your life and how He
might use you in these exciting kinds that we live in.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
They definitely are exciting. There's no shortage of topics. You've
got that right, Troy, And we appreciate your perspective on
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about Baron Trump and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
His dad is the last President of the Republic of
the United States.

Speaker 8 (01:01:55):
The Baron Trump collection is actually at the Library of Congress.
You can go with the liven of Congres website and
it says it was written by Ingersoll Lockwood.

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When it comes to Ingersoll Lockwood's nineteenth century books Baron
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find yourself wondering if the past somehow predicted the president.

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Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
That's the question. Is the past catching up with the
president in the case of the nineteenth century prophecy being
fulfilled here in the twenty first century the Baron Trump Chronicles,

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featuring a writing called The Last President from Ingersoll lockwed
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of a one stop shop sort of speak Trey, how
much weight do you put behind the Baron Trump Chronicles?

Speaker 8 (01:03:40):
You know, just if you look at statistically, you know,
as you have as we mentioned on this show, it's
called the Baron Trump Collection.

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
The picture on the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Cover, yeah I said chronicles, I meant collection.

Speaker 7 (01:03:56):
Oh yeah. So the drawing on the picture of the
cor of the book show was a little boy Baron
Trump and it looks strikling like President Trump's son, and
he lives in Castle Trump, and he's guided by the
bastard of all masters, Dawn, and they go on time
traveling adventures. And the last books called The Last President,
this Populist President.

Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
So I mean, what's the statistically, what's the chance all
these things could, you know, sort of come true or
it's come true in some sense. You know, one hundred
and thirty years later, it just seems highly improbable. So
I really think there's something very mysterious about writing. Maybe
ingrish Old Lockwood. Maybe maybe God showed this to him,
like you know, a number of fictional books seemed to
come true. You know, we mentioned, you know, George Orwell's

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nineteen eighty four. Maybe he didn't even know always doing it,
he'd just be just writing some some novels. This is
like sort of like the time of the popular of
Alice in Wonderland's books. So maybe that's a you know,
but God, we use this, you know, and I just
don't my own experience in writing books. A lot of things,
I mean, people said this, and there was like hundreds
or thousands of reviews on Amazon and Goodreads and Barnes

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and Noble. People say a lot of the stuff you've written,
it seems to be coming true. And I I'm not
conscious of that happening, but people say that that's what's happening.
And so, and of course, you know the Bible, all
these guys wrote these you know, prophets, you know, predicted
things that you know, Bible scholars now say are coming
to an exacting detail.

Speaker 7 (01:05:11):
So I think there's something to it, and it's it's
very interesting subject.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Perhaps we live on this timeline. It just happens to
be one that is written out you know far like
as in the you know, one hundred and thirty years
into the future in this case.

Speaker 8 (01:05:26):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, the Bible tells
us gods outside of time and space, he knows the
end from the beginning. It says that each person has
an appointed day of their birth and their death, you know,
after death, though we don't we meet God. And you know,
it talks about you know, all these different ways that
you know, God will show different people in the future.

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And the Bible talks about gifts to the Holy Spirit,
you know, want of them as prophecy, the discernment, discernative spirits,
the tongues, you know, words of knowledge, and so there's
all these gifts that all of this have. We all
have different you know, Harvard's done his study here. A
few years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:06:03):
I wrote about a story about this that all these
doctors around the world is like something like, you know,
seventy eighty percent believe that they actually see miraculous healings
in their practices, and so, uh, you know, there's a
lot more to life and these the supernatural and the
paranormal u than the met CI.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
That is for sure. What do you think has been
the most surprising discovery that you've made while researching the
material for the Trump Code?

Speaker 8 (01:06:37):
Well, but I think the most surprising thing is how
it's all unfolded. So, you know, Chris mcme my editor,
and they came back actually to write the Trump Code
last summer and as I was sort of finished up
the book, and that was when the attempted assassination of
President Trump occurred. And it was such a striking thing
that he survived that, you know, just turned his head

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right the right moment, and you know, the fusilades of bullets,
you know, just you know, injured him. And then, uh,
there's actually a in the I think it's in the
book of the Vidicus where it talks about the high
priests would put the blood on the ear and the
tow and so there's you know, I think we we
opened the book with this, you know, was there some

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kind of like you know consecration of President Trump for
his his mission, his prophetic mission that God has form
with that, So we saw that happen and then you know,
like I mentioned, I felt called to call for forty days,
forty days of state of America. This is forty days
before the election, just like you know, Jonah has message
to Panineba.

Speaker 7 (01:07:36):
You've got forty days and then the vote will be overthrown.

Speaker 8 (01:07:39):
So we called for prayer, faster repentance, like Billy Graham
said we need to do. And then we saw Trump's election,
which is it seemed miraculous in nature. And then I thought,
it's seventy seven days from the election until inauguration. So
we called for stenty seven days to take back to America,
igniting the final Great Awakening. And he said, everybody, keep praying,
keep faster repenting. This is what you know, the Bible

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says we're supposed to do. And then now we've seen
President Trump's inauguration. And then this last Sunday, you know
we live here in Orange County, we went to saddle
Back Church, pet pastor Rick Warren, he wrote The Purpose
Driven Live, sold like fifty million copies of his church.
And this is now Andy andy Wood and his wife
Stacy on the pastors there, and you want to expect

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this from saddle Back Church.

Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
They had global impact, but Stacy called the church to prayer,
fasting and repentance, and they're going through like a special
study of the Book of Luke and Acts, and they're
going to have the Return gathering next month. And you know,
we had called it that National Day Rependance on the
national malls, called the Return National Global Data Prayer and Repentance,
and saddle Back has an influence on thousands of churches

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and ministers and pastors worldwide, a global impact. And so
I just I looked at all these things and I
just see the hand of God just sort of guiding
the course of history. And he's using President Trump, He's
using many different people, and so we live in a
very exciting time to be to be Christians. And so
I just sort of see the work of the Holy
Spirit and all these different things.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
They're very interesting. Okay, what does this say about the future?
I mean from beyond? Because going up towards the election,
your book, you know, came out and it wasn't for
certain whether or not, you know, Trump was going to win.
Now that he has taken office, what happens from here?

Speaker 8 (01:09:29):
Yeah, So that's the you know, the sort of intriguing
question we've been asking on this show is you know,
the Lockwood's last book is the last President. So could Trump,
you know, be the last president? Do we just have
like a few short years to accomplish whatever mission God
has for us to, you know, bring people to faith
in Jesus essentially, or could this be extended for an
extended period of time? And is it possible his son

(01:09:52):
Baron could be president one day? He's become very popular,
right and at the something the inauguration events, he's you know,
time on stage and people are excited about that. And
certainly he's he's huge, He's like six, he's six, but
six and you know, very you know, good look good,
good looking man. And so could he be president one day?

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Or other members of the Trump family? I mean, the
only time will tell.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yeah, only time will tell. All right. We will continue
our conversation with the Troy Anderson tonight somewhere between the
paranormal and the abnormal. After a very short break.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
Into the pair of normal.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Pair of.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Combining the writings of a late nineteenth century author, Ingersol Lockwood,
along with Bible prophecy, Tonight with our guest Troy Anderson,
author of The Trump Code, exploring time travel, Nicola Tenesla,
the Trump lineage and America's future, and as far as

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that future is concerned. Anything else to add to that
to Troy.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
Yeah, I would just say that this is a very
exciting time to be alive. We're watching all these things happening.
You know, perhaps we are on the verge of the
events and Book of Revelation. But for years now, I
mean actually for a couple of centuries, Christians have been praying,
can we had this great end time and revival? Can
we have this great end times awakenings as possible? You know,
Joel talked about the great outpourt of the Holy Spirit

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in the last days, people prophesying and seeing visions and
dreams and all kinds of things like this, And so
I think we're seeing it happen today. There's reports of
Christ appearing to people in the Middle East, and miracles
and supernatural phenomena occurring all around the world, and so
I think God is calling us. I wrote a book
of Colonel.

Speaker 8 (01:11:53):
David Gmoni, as retired US Army chaplain Curl called Your
Missioning Guide's Army. It also came out last year, and
we talked about it like a purpose strive in life
about how to discover your purpose, your destiny in God's
army of warriors to bring in this this great harvest revival.
That's a term my other co author, Pastor Paul Bailey,
talks about. So could this be beginning? Is God calling

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us to do this? I guess that would be my
word of encouragement is to, you know, ask God to
show you what your divine purpose is. The Bible says
he has a plan for our lives from the foundations
of the world, and although we have free will, he'll
he'll guide us into our destiny.

Speaker 7 (01:12:30):
And so that would be my word of encouragement in
the show.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
On Yeah, as far as the events in the Book
of Revelation, you talked about those earlier. What kinds of
things are we talking about?

Speaker 8 (01:12:42):
Yeah, so what the Bible talks about, I mean the
events of what you know what the Book of Revelation,
also the Book of Daniel and other prophecies throughout the
Bible to talk about this this what many believe it
could be like a seven year tribulation period where you
have the rise and this antichrisis, global dictator, this false
prophet they preside over a one world arnment. Uh, maybe
like a cult based religious system, economic system that people

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are required to take this market of beasts, so you
can't participate in the economy. And essentially it says that
God will pour out his judgments upon the world during
this time because you know, the world's rejecting him, and
it's essentially says about two thirds of humanity will die
in all kinds of terrible judgments and war and disease
and plague, and it's just it's a total nightmare if

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you if you read the book a Revelation, But it
says that at the end of the seven year period,
Jesus Christ will return of the armies of Heaven riding
white horses. The whole world will see this. He'll he'll
defeat the armies of the anti Christ and the false prophet.
They'll be confined to the the you know, the Lake
of Fire, and then there'll be a judgment day and

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those who are accepted Christ will be taken into heaven
the creation of a new Earth and new Jerusalem. And
then those who you know accepted Christ as are saying,
will you know, be in heaven with Him for for eternity.

Speaker 7 (01:14:00):
So that's sort of the hope.

Speaker 8 (01:14:02):
This was called the blessed hope of the Christian faith
is that at some point God's going to set everything
right and all the terrible things that happen in the
world will be over and there'll be a perfect universe
and future for those who accept Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Well, that is certainly nice that there is hope ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:14:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:14:20):
Yeah, that's the great message of hope. And so the
whole Bible sort of takes you on this whole journey
and you know there's a happy ending at the end,
and it's just coming upon us.

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
Just a very simple just ask God to forgive you
of your.

Speaker 8 (01:14:33):
Sins, come into your heart, put me to work in
your army, and my experiences. Once you volunteer, he'll put
you to work and it's actually a great adventure.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Yeah. Well, Troy, we really appreciate you coming on the
program tonight. What would your final words to the audience be?

Speaker 7 (01:14:51):
Yeah, yeah, just if you'd like to, you know, get
the Trump Code. I've also written the Babylon Code, and
like I mentioned, your mission in God's on in Relations
and you can just go to Troy Anderson dot us.

Speaker 8 (01:15:02):
The sex of these books have been number one best sellers.
They're also available on Amazon and Barnes and Noble pretty
much you or books are sold. He has some great newsletters.
They're free. You can help out your want. But it's
Revelation Watchers dot com, Prophecy Investigators dot com and Batterladymnistries
dot org and you'll get all kinds of great articles
and videos and updates on you know, speaking events and

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all those kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Best to you, Troy, and then thanks so much again
for coming on the program.

Speaker 7 (01:15:28):
Yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
It's my pleasure, Troy Anderson again, Ladies and gentlemen. In
the book is called the Trump Code. Pretty easy. You
can put it into a browser and should be able
to find it. It'll be very interesting to see what
happens with any of this. Maybe these people are just

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getting lucky, or maybe again, this is all playing out
on a timeline, and certain individuals can can view that
time one and others can't. Like they can fast forward
or reverse or whatever the case happens to be. Will
President Trump release all of the UFO files? I don't

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honestly think so. I mean, Jimmy Carter did a ton
as far as that was concerned. Carter probably did more
than any other president. I would argue when it comes
to UFO disclosure number one, he had had a UFO siding,
which of course certainly helps, and now passing away at

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the age of one hundred, it has made us remember
exactly some of those sacrifices that he made, probably in
the public eye, in order to push the disclosure effort forward.

(01:16:58):
But Clinton as well, Clinton did quite a bit to
release some of the UFO files. I'm not sure about Bush.
I'm pretty sure Obama had something to do with the
release of some UFO files. Not entirely sure on that one.

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Trump may get some, but certainly not the good stuff.
And what we do get is going to be redacted.
It is that same game, just to play it on
repeat when it comes to disclosure or lack thereof. Really,

(01:17:40):
I guess because no president is really has the power,
I should say to release the information. Because this does
not fall within the executive branch. It is a shadowy

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type of thing, a shadowy government, a shadow organization, and
that's where this is run. It's above presidential and congressional oversight.
So yeah, you're going to get some of the information,

(01:18:21):
and you know, kudos to him certainly not trying to
discourage any of you from getting excited about this information
come out coming out, but it's not going to be
the really good stuff. As far as the assassinations are concerned.
President Trump has openly stated he could only do so much,

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particularly on the JFK files. At least he didn't feel
compelled to do more than he did, or maybe felt
threatened to do more than he did, because he did
say that he had talks with people who said it
would not be a good idea, But he has stated

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that is no longer the case, and he is just
going to go ahead and release the files on the
assassination of JFK. And there are many people who still
have many questions about those events, who are still not
satisfied with the official narrative of those events. But again, talk,

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as they say, is cheap. Actions speak louder than words,
and giving someone the benefit of the doubt. At this point,
too has avouched that they're going to bring all of
these secrets forward, and if they do, are there larger
implications here. I appreciate you tuning in as we have

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these conversations for you nightly that certainly do go between
the paranormal and the abnormal from the cult dark depths
of a secret dungeon somewhere deep in the remote Pacific Northwest.
I am Jeremy Scott. We will talk to you next
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