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the program to our affiliates far and wide. A couple
of fascinating things that I wanted to share with you.
It's things like this that peque my interest. We call
this the pair abnormal, somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal,
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because far more things are abnormal than our paranormal. At
least I have found that to be the case, especially
here in Portland, Oregon. I know my city's been in
the news a lot lately. There is a new study
that looks at how life might have first appeared on Earth.
Robert Andres, a biologist at Imperial College, London, says life
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could have formed naturally from chemical reactions, but the chances
of that happening by pure luck may be extremely small.
Using computer models, Andrea's found that a random mix of
molecules probably couldn't create life on its own, and suggests
that there may have been some kind of structure or
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pattern before evolution began. He also considers a more speculative idea,
which is that advanced aliens may have seated life on Earth.
In case you're not familiar, that is a theory called panspermia,
the thought that they deliberately spread life to other planets. Well,
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he admits that this is unlikely, but says it can't
be ruled out completely. It certainly is fascinating. You just
never know, but it makes you wonder, especially when you
hear this. Like we reported last week, alien DNA has
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reportedly been found in humans. In case you did not here,
researchers claim to have found possible evidence of alien genetic
manipulation in human DNA. The research suggests that large sections
of genetic code appear to have been inserted into humans.
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I'm not sure how I feel about that. You want
genetic code being inserted into you? Potentially millions of people
affected here. It should be noted that the study is preliminary,
it has not been verified, and certainly more advanced DNA
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sequencing will be needed to confirm the findings. But the
research also identified or included data rather from self identified
alien abductees, some of whom showed unexplained non parental genetic
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mark Maybe they were parented by extraterrestrials. And before you say, Jeremy,
that's just preposterous and you have nothing to back that up,
I would say, well, actually, a database of US government
reports acknowledge unaccounted for pregnancies as a result of encounters
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with UFOs mothers carrying alien babies, and these women have
no recollection of how they could have gotten pregnant. So
perhaps this happens during an abduction in which there is
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some sort of amnesia perpetrated on the individual to make
them forget about what they've endured. So when we hear
the term non parental genetic markers, it could indicate that
there is some hybridization going on. This could be a
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human alien hybrid type of situation. It makes you wonder,
like who is running these operations. We've heard of a
deep state, We've heard of a cabal. There is this
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agenda that is being acted out by a clandestine, a
secret group of individuals whose sole purpose is to manipulate
this from behind the scenes, much like we've heard the
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term deep state applied to politics of late. There's also
the deep state, which has not been referred to as
the deep state until recently, but it's a perfect terminology
to describe what's actually going on. That is, there's probably
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more than one group who is in charge of all
the UFO secrets, who knows where the alien bodies are
and the crash debris, and has all of the evidence
that we we think we know exists, but there's likely more.
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And we based that on the reports throughout the years
of committees and panels who have been assembled to review
this information, including a revelation that actually recently came to
light that the FBI has a organized group who investigates
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or at least is involved in UFOs in some capacity.
So we know that there are groups that still exist
according to the reports, and many that have existed in
the past, the goal being to keep the American public
as far away from the truth as possible. And you
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have to wonder if the deep state is actually involved
in the discrediting of witnesses and if they are also
perpetrating some of the reports, some of the content that
has deemed to be not authentic to muddy the waters
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like the individual who goes into a bar near Roswell
and passes around a picture. Individuals then heat that thinking
they have seen something top secret, as that they've alluded
to it a recent Wall Street Journal article as like
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an initiation, So we can only wonder how deep in
fact this actually goes. They call it the deep state
for a reason. I guess your guests would be as
good as mine. But lucky for us, we don't have
to guess tonight, because we have somebody who actually has
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a pretty good idea how deep this goes. Coming up
tonight on into the pair of noormal, we are going
to discuss exactly that somewhere between the paranormal and the
abnormal I'm Jeremy Scott.
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Into the paradormal parent.
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Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal, I am Jeremy Scott.
One of the common questions that we get when doing
in the program, when we talk about UFOs and aliens
is why there isn't more publicly available information and why
it seems that there is a big disinformation campaign surrounding it.
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Why there's the secrecy involved, why is there a cover up?
As we go in further calling it a deep state.
There is this deep state that is involved in the
UFO and alien agenda. Again, unelected shadow government controlling things
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from behind the scenes. We've alluded it to it time
and time begin on this program, especially when we review
the congressional hearings and you can only get so far
and they say, well, you know, we have to we
can only talk about that in skiffs and only certain
individuals who have that clearance can be involved. So there
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is this restriction on the flow of information. But even
beyond that, there is this cabal. There is this deep
state that are are holding all the cards that are
controlling things, that are moving the strings behind the scenes
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that we don't necessarily see, but they are there. So
tonight on the program a very important one as we
kind of expose and pull back some of the layers
here to expose of what's really going on here with
our guest Tonight, a decorated marine combat jet attack pilot,
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former squadron intelligence officer with five air medals, MD Selig
joins us tonight. He's also a filmmaker and international best
selling author. He's written in directed projects seen on Netflix,
Showtime in Amazon Prime, and his international best selling novel Hush,
which is conveniently titled because there is, as I said,
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this secrecy involving this subject. It's sh don't talk about it.
Or as the title of his book says, hush, it
is a psychological thriller about alien manipulation, deep state deception,
and alien control. And he joins us now on the program,
m D Welcome.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Thank you so much, Jeremy, honored to be here.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It is my pleasure to have you here on the program. So, Michael,
as we get started here, tell other folks about your service,
if you don't mind, certainly.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So, I was an attack pilot for the Marines for
eight years and was involved in Operation Desert Storm in
nineteen ninety one, and kind of alluding to your question
about the cabal deep state, which I thought you encapsulated
really well, my experience being in combat with also having
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the availability of actually CNN each night, watching on television
what was being shown to the world and then what
we were actually experiencing in Operation Desert Storm was my
first hint that someone else was pulling the strings.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
And I won't go into that further. There's certainly a
lot of that in the.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Book, but it's along the lines of what you had
just mentioned that there are many levels of control and
they can go from the media to right down to
in your face type of control. So it's interesting that
you covered that so well. As far as there's other
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people that pull the puppet strings.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Oh absolutely, And folks are not aware that this really
goes on. They want answers from their congressmen, their wraps,
their senators. They are not dealing with the same information
that the deep state is.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I believe you're correct, and I think the kind of
big picture if I could hand it to people, at
least from what I understand now from just years of
research and following this separation that I'm starting to see
between what is our government and don't get me wrong,
I love America. I love our government. I love everything
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that we attempt to do.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I think we mean well. But there is.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Certainly a small group, and I would say they're not
necessarily all Americans. I would say it's a small group
of extremely wealthy from all over the world. I'll call
them the cabal for the sake of speaking about them,
But they really do run the show, run the show
above all governments, not just the American government, and that
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those governments, ours included, are literally there to kind of
keep us with our own little puppet show going. And
it has nothing to do with the power and control
of the planet.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
So what is it about?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So you mean our government? Is that your question? What
is our government about?
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
If it's not about the what you just said, right.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So, in my opinion, from just hard research and kind
of watching what's really going on and obviously being involved
on some level through the military to kind of see
the inside and the outside of heavy government stuff, my
experience is is that you know, our president and Congress
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and all of that are as you know are only
cleared up to top secret seventeen, so the president can
it can't even go to area fifty one by clearance level.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
And that's how the CIA went rogue with it.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But I believe the CIA as well, is not the
top of the heap. I believe it's this small group
that can either control the CIA for what they do,
or the NSA or anyone else. And that's why in
these congressional hearings and stuff, you're just going to get
what we call limited hangout. You're going to get something
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for the public to kind of keep them chomping at
the bit, but you're not getting real and there's no
vital information coming in your direction, and including any up
and coming Senate hearings, that's all completely controlled.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Right, So something like an MJ twelve, I mean, there's
debate whether that was actually a thing or not. But
an organization of individuals, like we said, a shadow government,
unelected bureaucrats, like an MG twelve type of situation.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I believe that's correct, although.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I think MJ twelve actually had some power, much more
so back in the day. If you want to think
about the cabal being split into factions for each different country,
so there's kind of an American wing of the cabal.
In other words, there has to be some one at
the local level. So let's just use MJ twelve as
an example. To hand out military contracts or a military
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an unacknowledged special access program to reverse engineer a flying saucer.
Let's say at S four and let's say that contract
goes to Lockheed Martin. There has to be a representative
from our kind of one step below the cabal that
is obviously going to be an American that is going
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to hand out that contract. Now, whether it's exactly through
the Majestic twelve, or if it's the Majestic twelve is
just behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
But there is certainly a.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Group of Americans involved with the cabal that are handing
out these unacknowledged special access programs for all of these
things that are being reverse engineered, including new information.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
That's coming in from alien groups that are well meeting.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
And could non humans be a part of this group?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
I actually think they are a part of this group.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And this gets into a whole other area we can
talk about later, but I believe there are hybrids involved
at this point.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Interesting. We got to pause right now. We will continue
with MD Sealig tonight. I'm Jeremy Scott, somewhere between the
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Speaker 8 (21:00):
So there has been activity by by alien or non
human technology and or beings that has caused harm to humans.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I can't get into the specifics in an open environment,
but at least the activity that I what I personally
witnessed myself and my wife is very disturbing.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
These operations have been wrung by a coindestine, unsanctioned group.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Unfortunately they're not so been aping.
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MDC League tonight, our guest, I'm Jeremy Scott somewhere between
the paranormal and the abnormal. We're talking about the alien
deep state, about this cabal, about this organization that controls
everything from backstage, and there could be several non human
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members of this group. As we were talking before the break,
I think there have to be some non human participants
at the table here. That's where we've gotten some of
this technology, right.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I think there's been a lot of negotiation for who
sits at the table, and a lot of that has
to do with alien traded technologies.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
And this has been going back many many decades.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
I believe. So that's correct, Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
All right, So I mean how deep does this go?
Have there been several players? Have there been several different
regimes so to speak, throughout the years, several different leaders,
as individuals come and go and pass. Do we know
anything about that?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think that's a really good question from the standpoint
of and maybe we can use as MJ twelve, the
Majestic twelve.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
I'm sure your listeners are familiar with that group.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
The initial MJ twelve group was formed in nineteen forty
seven by James Forstall on a command from Truman.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Obviously, and they just wanted to understand.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
At that moment, it was just Truman wanting to understand
what the hell the aliens wanted because they were invading
America's airspace like never before and we didn't have any
way to stop them all around. It's kind of curious
that your listeners would understand that the only nuclear base
in the world in nineteen forty seven was Roswell. I
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think a lot of people don't realize that when we
talk about, you know, the military saying Roswell never happened
and such and so. Well, if you're an alien group
and you want to understand how humans have suddenly gotten
a hold of a firecracker that's much bigger than they
even know themselves, and their mess with it, you would
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probably want to investigate. And if you were going to investigate,
the only place to investigate in nineteen forty seven, in
July fourth weekend would be Roswell. So I think that's
kind of interesting that that was our first instigation of
the Majestic twelve, which was coming back to the question
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of this group that has been in actual negotiations with,
in my opinion, malevolent alien races. I believe that the
formal signings began in nineteen thirty eight with the Nazis
and the first American signings. Even though nineteen fifty four,
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I believe the Majestic twelve behind Eisenhower's back sign the
create a treaty, I believe before that we were already
making verbal agreements. When I say we, the American faction
of the Cabal, dealing with aliens that were not only
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at crash landed. Some were dead, but there were also
some that were alive, and some that were as we
call detained as a guest.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
I think they knew they weren't guests.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And in the midst of all that chaos going on
on that July weekend, I.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Believe there was.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
The beginnings of America starting to realize like, Okay, we
clearly have technology from another planet here. This is another
race that is far advanced technologically than we are, and
we want that, and we want that now, and we
want that so that nobody else knows that America has it.
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And I believe that's where you're getting the beginnings of
the Cabal, the beginnings of if you have a weapon
and you can employ it and nobody else has it,
are you going to give it away.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Are you going to even let them know that you
have that weapon?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
No, you're not.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So if you're the cabal and you're more money than
any of us can imagine, and you control the planet
already through industry and everything else, you're a small group
let's say thirty people. Now, this is not the Majestic
twelve I'm talking about. I'm talking about the group that
really wields power of the Cabal. And if Truman says
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I don't understand all these aliens, and through a series
of negotiations, he basically says, I want to have a
group that understands this. Well, guess who's going to sit
on that committee of twelve where there's six military guys
and six scientists. The recommendations for that committee didn't just
come from Forrestal or from the folks that were on
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the committee, you know best, guests Van of ar Bush,
et cetera.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
The selections for that committee. I believe.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
That we're whispered into the ear of Truman of who
should actually sit on those committees. Because that committee obviously
evolves over time, that Majestic twelve group becomes very powerful.
And in my mind, where you're making contractual obligation with
alien races. And we know officially in nineteen fifty four
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that the Majestic twelve, and you got to.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Think Alan Doles is involved.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You got to think James Engleton, like the CIA is
the top of the heap there because they were basically
formed right after Roswell. Right, So nineteen forty seven you've
got the CIA being formed, and you've got characters that
are completely.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
They're looking the other way at the Nazis.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
So you've got Alan Doles who's a Nazi sympathizer. And look,
you can disagree with what I'm saying, I have no
problem with it. I'm telling you my gut feeling from
all my research is as much as I realized, we
named buildings after Alan Doles and airports and James Angilton.
I'm just saying I think people will find out over
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time those guys were the handmaids for the Cabal. They
were doing the actual dirty work for the Kabal. And
that's where I believe the beginnings were. As far as
kind of the people that I could mention to you
and that your listeners would know who they were, I
believe the Cabal was in action well before that but
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as far as for who your listeners would know when
the CIA started, I believe it has been kind of
doing the dirty deeds for the cabal ever since.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Well, and we'll pause here, but to ponder this. It
came to light earlier this year, in fact, that the
FBI has been dealing in the UFO subject and actually
has a working group. Who knows for how long and
if it is still in existence. It was as of
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earlier this year when President Trump got into office and
planned a whole bunch of cunts more to come tonight
somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal. I'm Jeremy Scott
with empty.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Ceiling into the pair of the normal pair of.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
All right, So it was in a February of twenty
twenty five. President Trump had been in office about two
weeks and did came to be. You know, there were
questionnaires that were making the rounds. He wanted people to
tell him basically their worth. And it came to light
through this that there was this secretive group investigating UAP,
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an actual group of at least one person managing it
and more than a dozen employees around the country spending
much of their time tracking UAPs. Now what I asked
about at the time, which I don't know that we
have an answer to, is how much of this was
their full job or was this done in addition to
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other duties. I've heard from some who were on the
UAP Task Force that they did other stuff but then
served also on the task force. Basically as like a
side gig or something that your boss adds on top
of your workload. You know, hey, can you do more
for us? We're gonna pay you the same, but we
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need more from you. Sure, we can all relate to that.
But if we assume that the same was to be
said about this FBI working group, that may be some
more full time and some more part time. I guess
we can only speculate. MDC League our guest tonight, and
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he is a decorated marine combat jet attack pilot, former
squadron intelligence officer, filmmaker and author. His book Hush, a
psychological thriller of Alien manipulation and Deep State Deceit is available. So, MDI,
what are your thoughts on this working group?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So, the one thing that I would say about anything
to do with especially again, I'll always come back to it.
Anything that you're getting from the government so in this case,
you're getting that, oh, Trump was looking around to find
out what the value of his crew that he had
around him was, and he finds out or we find
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out that some of them are working on UAP and
perhaps UAP disclosure. My gut feeling again is it's limited
hangout and that's kind of a maybe for some of
your listeners, that is a new term. I'll try to
give a reader's digest version. Sure, if the cabal wants
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people to think that our government is suddenly on the
up and up and really getting aggressive about finding out
about UAPs, well what better way to fire them up
than to give them a little tidbit here and there,
and to even keep it kind of secretive, like what's
happening with the release of this information that, oh, some
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of these staff are actually working part time on.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
UAPs and that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Limited hangout gives you just enough information for you to
go tell your neighbor like, oh, yeah, our government's really
firing up about this, and what you'll find is two
years from now you won't have much more information on uapes.
It's the same cabal mo that's been used since Roswell,
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and they'll play both sides of that to keep you spinning.
And you may even see it hit CNN for two
weeks like, oh, we have a new congressional hearing on UAPs.
That's great, certainly watch it if you want. But my
experience of watching it for the last ten years now
is slowly, you know, the alien question pops up once
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in a while in the government and there seems to
be a tiny bit of momentum. My experience is it's
all limited, hangout, You're you're really getting nothing, and.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
So we can expect that that should continue. I mean,
that's kind of the cycle that is at play here,
which we've documented on the program, which is that people
come and people go, and we just keep kicking this
subject down the road a little bit further and we
never get anywhere.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's right, Jeremy, and if you and I'll give you
a really good example.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
All of us were fired up.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
What was it three years ago when the nimts UAP
videos started showing up from from the F eighteen pilots
and we were all like, Wow, this is real footage,
and I believe it was real footage.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Those were real UAPs and where did it go? Nowhere?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
It kind of came up. We all got excited. We
wanted to know more. We heard something about Lou Alezondo, which,
in my opinion, again God bless him. He's military. I
don't care if you're if you're on the Cabal payroll,
and I'll just flat out say it.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
He's all limited hangout. His book is limited hangout.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
His book is exactly what the Cabal wants you to read.
To think you're getting the momentum in the right direction.
You're getting nothing. And I can promise you Lou Alezondo
not only knows there's aliens on the planet, and in
contractual obligations with the Cabal, he has not only had
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front row seats to that information, but he also knows
that if he steps one step out of bounds, it
might be bad for him. So you get limited hangout.
He's told what to say, what to do, et cetera,
et cetera. There is no way that guy does not
know more than I know, and I know enough to
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realize there are aliens on the planet walking among us.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
And there are definitely many, many, many.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Ships active and non active on our planet and in
our planet and underneath the oceans.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
It's excessive.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
So I can expect that in my lifetime if I
do this show, got another forty years, that would be wonderful.
And in your lifetime, hopefully you have another forty years
or as long as you would like on this.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Plus it's my goal, Jeremy, it's.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Another forty years, all right. That's so. Having said that,
if we both reached that age, can we expect that
we will not see disclosure in our lifetimes.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I don't think disclosure is going to come in the
way people think it's going to come.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
And here's why.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
If I'm Lockheed Martin and I'm paid billions per year
to keep my mouth shut, and I know that I've
been reverse engineering products for the cabal since Roswell, so
for seventy five years, I've essentially said, hey, my skunk
works is really off limits to everybody, including the President,
including Congress. It's all above top secret eighteen and above.
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You're not coming to our facility. And the ships that
Lockheed Martin has not only engineered, like the TR three B,
which makes day daily missions to the Moon from McCord
from Station D which is Area fifty one from Kirtland
from Diego, Garcia, for sure, and that's just one ship
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that Lockheed Martin created years ago, that's anti gravity. What
incentive would I have as Lockheed Martin to suddenly step
forward and go, hey, America, you.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Know what, Gosh gone it.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
We just we're gonna tell you, yeah, we made a
mistake and we've been lying to you for seventy years,
and you know we want to come clean.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
It's not going to happen. That's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It's not going to happen for the Sierra Nevada company
that creates Gorgon Stare, it's not going to happen for
any military contractor.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Art Rand, you name it.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Why what incentive would they have to suddenly come forward
and apologize. They don't and they don't have any incentive.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
At all subpoena and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Even in court. I mean in court you can push
it to some extent. But I'm just saying that if
you're making trillions, and you know, if you're if you're
making what you want to make, and you're off world
and you're helping the cabal, let's say mine on other planets,
why would you tell lowly Americans who have nothing to
do with anything. Compared as far as like your paycheck.
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What what would you gain from it? There's nothing to
gain for Lockheed Martin. They don't they don't have to
come clean to like themselves. They don't have to come
clean to be in a great American company. They're a
worldwide company. I'm just using them as an example. But
imagine this. The unacknowledged special access programs are world wide.
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Lockheed Martin just happens to be the biggest of the conglomerates.
But there are hundreds of companies, military contractors who do
not ask questions when they're told to build a cubicle
that they don't even know what they're building it for.
But when it arrives on the Moon, it's attached to
other cubicles and it makes a small spaceship. But if
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you're a company that's just building the cubicle and that's
all you get to know, you don't ask questions because
you get paid really well to keep your mouth shut.
And that's what's occurring worldwide. Since Roswell.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Interested very interesting and as far as that eminent domain
clause of the UAP legislation, that would basically mean that
anybody who has any of this technology in their grasp
would have to come forward, and yet we can't even
get that legislation passed. I understand that actually the legislation
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now is going nowhere, or at least it's all imploded.
That's how I understand it. If I missed any of that,
I apologize and I'll go back and corrected in a
later show. But it does appear that, yeah, the cabal
is still winning here. Friends, more to come. I'm Jeremy Scott.
Speaker 10 (40:10):
If you think this hour was mind blowing, just wait
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Speaker 4 (40:16):
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a parallel universe. Fail that separation.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
While we perceived seriality.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Over the game, then the true be No, it's all
a mess.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Into the pair of No, into the pair of.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
The truth is far more abnormal than we want to believe.
Speaker 10 (41:17):
You're headed somewhere between abnormal and parahonormal, into the paraonormal.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Many players to this U secrecy that is a hanging
over the alien UFO subject and has for many many
decades now is still in effect. They have it clamped
down still because the information is slow to come out,
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to say the least, and those who say too much, well,
we know what happens to them, our guests, decorated marine
combat JETI TAC pilot, former squadron intelligence officer, filmmaker and
author M. D. Selig his psychological thriller of alien manipulation
and Deep State Deceit is called Hush, and it's available,
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as they would say, wherever books are sold. This is
all very interesting, as we've been discussing in the past hour,
this eminent domain thing that I mentioned would require military
contractors to basically come forward. If you worked on behalf
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of the government and were paid well, as you said
before the break, you may have some of this in
your possession and would be required to hand this over.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
So again, I think it becomes important, Jeremy, to define government.
Speaker 7 (42:54):
If you worked for the government.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Now, if I told you that EG and G, which
a lot of your listeners are familiar with Bob Lazar
who worked for EG and G in the in like
nineteen eighty nine, I believe was roughly when Bob was there.
Who I By the way, I'm a huge Bob Lazar fan.
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I've vetted him for many years. He's just he never
changes his story. He never makes any money. Off of it,
and I'll promise you. I know he was at Los
Alamos as a physicist, and they have basically debunked his
whole life. But I'm a big fan of his. But
I bring him up because Bob worked for EG and G,
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which was a known military contractor at S four.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
Now, if today.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
You know your question is if with the eminent domain
that if your company worked for the government on this
on a particular alien project, you have to come forward
with that product.
Speaker 7 (44:00):
Guess what.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
EG and G does not work and never worked for
the US government. EG and G was on Area fifty one.
Guess who controls Area fifty one since the fifties, the CIA,
they went rogue with it by taking the clearances so
high that no one from our government, including federal auditors
can go there. So you're talking about the president can
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even go there. Top Secret seventeen does not get you
onto Area fifty one. So now you say, all right,
everyone who has a government contract working on alien technology,
you've got to come forward. That's not going to be
Lockheed Martin because they're not working for the government. The
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wing of Lockheed Martin that does work for the government
doesn't have to say anything because they're not working on
alien technology. It's a separate wing of Lockheed Martin. They
have no incentive to step out with what we can
call their unacknowledged special access wing.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
So that's something a bureaucrat would say, Well, it's Lockheed Martin,
but it's not Lockheed Martin.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Well to the extent that you have to remember that
Lockheed Martin is a conglomerate. They work for they can
work there, They can work for many entities, including the
US government, or the Russian government, or the Chinese government.
I mean, they are a technology company that knows how
to create amazing aircraft and they may be working they
may have a section of their group working for the
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Chinese government, and it may not be on alien technology.
The point is is that you're talking about an onion,
and what you see of Lockheed Martin as the outside
of the onion, but inside the onion all of the
different many hundreds and hundreds of layers. Some of those
layers you'll never get a see because they are unacknowledged
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special access programs. And I can promise you this all
of the US apps, which I mean unacknowledged, So there's
there's special access programs that the government hands out. That's
for a new hypersonic jet, that's for a new missile,
that's for a new tank. Those are called special access programs,
and tons of military contractors worldwide get those contracts from
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the American Congress, from government, from our government, great, but
the unacknowledged special access programs our government doesn't deal with,
and the unacknowledged special access programs one hundred percent are
alien related projects.
Speaker 7 (46:41):
So when you when you.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Talk about imminent domain again, it's a limited hangout. The
what people are going to get in those types of
congressional hearings of oh great, you know there's this there's
this wing of Lockheed Martin coming forward or rand or
whoever is the latest military contractor, and they're bringing us
something that they think, uh, you know, fell from space.
(47:03):
That's great. That has nothing to do with the cabal
trade trading, alien traded technologies that are actual, real use
stuff in the world today purchase.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
What if somebody took this stuff home, you know, like
a Bob Blazaar or somebody else who worked on this stuff,
and they have it at their house, the government may say, well,
you know that that that is ours, and we're coming
to connect it.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
You're exactly right, and and I can promise you Bob
Lazar has already had that experience.
Speaker 7 (47:35):
I don't know if you've Yeah, he was rated.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Uh and and also on.
Speaker 7 (47:39):
The documentary, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
So I mean you got to remember that's a cabal
directed raid to just let him know. Like, Bob, you
keep speaking about it, and we're going to keep hammering you.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
We want this element that is not supposed to exist,
but we think that's right. I think you may have
it here. Where's the element?
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (48:01):
I hope he does have it. He deserves it by gut.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
But but you know that's the you're just talking about
such a tip of the iceberg thing, Like, let's just
think about it.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
What do you and I want to know?
Speaker 2 (48:15):
We really want to see a darn alien spaceship that
has been sitting at S four for seventy years. We
want to see it. We don't care if it flies.
We just want to walk around it. Can we please
just touch it? Can we see something?
Speaker 7 (48:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Thank you or anything like that? Right, just show us
the real deal. And we're not going to get that.
So that's what I'm saying by I believe what people
think of as disclosure, like, Oh, suddenly the museum is
just going to open and we get to walk in
and and see all this stuff that all these contractors
have been working on to reverse engineer, and that they're
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going to be Oh, you know, sorry, we could open
these doors seven years ago, but we didn't. That's not
going to happen. It's just not going to happen. And
it's not realistic think it would happen. And if you
were a company that's making trillions every year and you're
already off world working for the cabal on really cool stuff,
you just don't have any incentive to go to a
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congressional hearing and say, you know what, we've we apologize
that we've got a few secrets you want to take.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Especially now when they want you to pay your own way.
Speaker 7 (49:21):
Exactly, that's right.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
There's no budget for this stuff. There's a room a
voucher for some food or after.
Speaker 7 (49:28):
My flight for crying out loud, jeez, Louise.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yeah, well maybe there's a maybe there's an alien somewhere
in a freezer, you know, just taking out someone's someone's
garage for the story of those time or two over
the years. All right, more to come. Our guest tonight
is MDC Leg. I'm Jeremy Scott, somewhere between the paranormal
(49:54):
and the abnormal. If you've got an alien in your
freezer and you can pay my way, I'll come out
there and we'll do a live radio broadcast. Morn a cup.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
Into the pair of.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Right, because I'm not getting scammed. I'm not gonna come
out there and look at your frozen alien body there
and come to find out it's not an alien. So
you got to pay my way. But I'll come out
there and do a lot radio broadcasts. I'm dead serious
about that, all right. Our guest tonight is an md
SEI Leg and we're talking about the alien deep state tonight.
It really does go deep, I mean, or so many
(51:01):
bigger fish to fry, as they say, All right, amdy,
what do you have to say about the possibility that
somebody is being paid a handsome sum of money to
basically keep Congress in the dark? Right, because we believe
this goes much deeper than that. Somebody is is a
(51:25):
disinformation agent and maybe more than one.
Speaker 7 (51:29):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
I absolutely think you're on the money there, and I
think an important thing to remember is that you have
a volatility and a dynamic because of the election process, right,
so you have a new president every four years. There's
a reason why the president isn't really told any more
(51:53):
than the president needs to know, especially you know, by
the cabal. As far as alien traded technologies, the President's
not going to get any of that information. And a
good example of that was at one point President Clinton.
I can't remember what the interview was, but he essentially
alluded to, Hey, I was.
Speaker 7 (52:15):
Essentially told when I started.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
To ask about what alien traded technologies we already had,
and he kind of alluded to, I know, we have some.
Speaker 7 (52:26):
I was essentially told.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
By a at the time, he said, by a power
greater than me, that I might want to keep my
mouth shut about that.
Speaker 7 (52:36):
And that was the end of it.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
Like I.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Got the very clear message that if I wanted things
to go well, that I should just not talk about that.
So I think what happens is depending on what level
of the Congress you are at, I should maybe that's
not the right way, but the level of Congress that
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you're working at. So if you are a long term
senator versus someone who's just come into office, perhaps you
have a little more notion of where alien traded technologies
might be being worked on. But you've gotten smart enough
as a senior senator or a senior person from the
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House to realize, yes, I should keep my mouth shut
if I want to continue to get interesting information, interesting
tidbits that I will not release to the public. And
the reason some of those senators might get talked to
is because the Cabal still has to control things, still
(53:42):
has to control Congress and the President. So I believe
a certain amount of information is always coming downhill only
because of the need for continuous control, and generally because
the Congress and the President that are constantly.
Speaker 7 (54:03):
A revolving door of new people coming in all the time.
So I believe that's kind of the way that the
Cabal keeps control.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Is.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah, we we have to control the senior House and
Senate people and the new folks. They're never going to
hear a thing.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
I mean, how is it possible that we cannot know
anything about the use aps thee acknowledged special access programs?
Is it because it's all black budget?
Speaker 7 (54:34):
Let me ask you this, did you know anything about them?
Have you heard of them?
Speaker 5 (54:40):
Well?
Speaker 3 (54:40):
No, but I'm not I'm not in the know. I
mean I would, I just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I because I know I look at you and I
respect your you know, your knowledge obviously is excessive because
you're asking amazing questions.
Speaker 7 (54:53):
Well, I just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
I just didn't know if you were hyper aware of them,
or if you've never heard of them, or or And
that's why I was asking, just because I wanted to
address it at whatever, you know, kind of level you're
aware of. So you said that you were not even
aware of unacknowledged special access programs.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
No, no, no, I mean, I mean I've I've heard them discussed,
and I've heard about them discussed. I mean Stephen Grier's
led to him as alluded to them time again, and
he's he's called them, you know, illegal.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
Right, So, so the way they work it is so.
And I'll again use Bob Bazaar as a good example.
And and Bob, you know, send me a mean note
if I get this wrong. But EG and G was
a military contractor. But remember Bob was paid through the
Department of Naval Intelligence, right, So so it wasn't even
(55:49):
a check from EG and G that he got paid.
He got paid through the department. I believe it was
the Department of Naval Intelligence, which again kind of tells you, like, okay,
And Bob was working on a USAP and unacknowledged special
access program.
Speaker 7 (56:05):
So only EG and G knows that Bob was hired
for that.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
There's no government person that would ever see Bob. And
because the Cabal controls not only the Black Navy, which
does which is a whole other conversation that we'll have
later about what the Black Navy does. And they're heavily
involved in not only Diego GARCIA, but all of the
(56:33):
secret space programs and stuff. But that's all Cabal created,
controlled by the CIA, and the projects that the Black
Navy as well as all of the programs that are
going on at S four currently, all of the programs
that are fifty floors down at Area fifty one, all
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of that is funded by the.
Speaker 7 (56:56):
Cabal through the American taxpayer. How do they fund it?
Speaker 3 (57:02):
How do they get that? That's that's exactly my point.
How can we not know that our American tax dollars
are going to use apps? So I was asking, how
can we not know that? I mean, why is it's
such a secret exactly?
Speaker 7 (57:18):
So here's a great here's a great little example of
how it works.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
So you remember Trump Donald Rumsfeld, I think it was
two thousand and two. Yeah, two thousand and two, Rumsfeld said,
there are two point three trillion dollars of transactions that
we can't account for. So what I'm going to tell
you is we can account for them. Where that those
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that's taxpayer dollars, that's your money, and I can promise
you one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 7 (57:51):
Because here's how I know.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Catherine Fitz just two years ago said the same thing,
runs Rumsfield said. Except in Rumsfeld when he said it
in two thousand and two or whatever, it was the
two point three trillion that are unaccounted for. Catherine Fitz
took it one step further. Now I already knew this
before she said it, but she said out loud. All
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I can tell you is there is a lot of
underground bases, secret bases, spaceports, and guess who's.
Speaker 7 (58:24):
Paying for them. The American public is paying for him.
So those funds. So you have to remember this.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
A federal auditor who looks at the two point three
trillion dollars and can't figure out where did that go?
That federal auditor is clear to guess what top secret seventeen.
They don't get to see funds that are allocated above
top secret seventeen for unacknowledged special access programs that those
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federal auditors do get to see if the B one
B is being worked on, because that's a special access program,
it's still secret, it's the B one B, but all
of that money gets to be seen by the public,
and that's funded by the public. But it just so
happens that long ago the CIA said, you know, we've
(59:18):
got some projects that we don't really want to announce.
Speaker 7 (59:21):
We're gonna call.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
Them unacknowledged special access programs. We need funding, and guess
where it came from. Where a pipeline that federal auditors
can't see. And that's what's happening, and it's still happening, unabated.
Speaker 3 (59:36):
More to come somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
I'm Jeremy Scott with MDC.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
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Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
Where the US government is operating with secrecy above Congressional
oversights with regards to UAPs.
Speaker 9 (01:01:27):
Pentagon, and our military have been covering this issue up
for years.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Retired military pilots who say the government is hiding evidence
of UFOs.
Speaker 9 (01:01:38):
There's a great deal of information that the government is
still not sharing with Congress.
Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
Allegations of high level cover ups related to UFOs have surface.
Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Lawmakers are preparing to look into claims of a government
cover up When it comes to UFO.
Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
They do exist, but they don't exist.
Speaker 9 (01:01:55):
They keep telling us they don't exist, but they block
every opportunity for us to get a whole name from
my it's stock of a government.
Speaker 10 (01:02:01):
Cover from the cold dark depths of a secret dungeon
somewhere to even the remote Pacific Northwest. You're traveling into
jump here or with a Jerally Scott.
Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
As they say, the devil is in the details. This
is all black budget stuff. These are unacknowledged, certainly unauthorized
special access programs. This may come on a line item
that says miscellaneous or something or other. It's certainly not
going to say UFO research, right, MDC League, our guest,
(01:02:37):
your thoughts on that.
Speaker 7 (01:02:39):
Yeah, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
My gut feeling, Jeremy, is that it wouldn't even be
a line item because it's it's above federal audit excuse me,
a federal auditor level. So imagine, if you're a military guy,
some are clear to top secret and some are not,
and you don't get to read a top secret document.
You don't even get it placed in front of you
unless you already have that clearance level. So just imagine
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that federal auditors can only see paperwork that is their
clearence level or below. So they're not they're never ever seeing.
Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
So the fifty million dollars or whatever that is spent
on this, nobody ever recognizes it's missing.
Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Well, that appears to be what's happening, obviously, since before
Rumsfeld is where he's you know, he's saying, we just
did a budget check and we just have to Like
the fact that he even announced it, I thought was
pretty darn heroic because he knew what he was talking about.
Just like if you watch Eisenhower, a fascinating thing for
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your listeners if they've never seen it. If you want
to see the beginnings of the cabal taking over the
military industrial complex in regards to alien rated alien related technologies.
Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
Go to the departure speech.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Of of I of Eisenhower, who, by all accounts that I
can figure out, he's certainly in my book. You'll get
to read some interesting stuff about Ike in my book.
But he gave a departure speech where he essentially tried
to tell the world, you guys, I'm no longer in control.
The government's not in control, the President's not in control.
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It's out of our hands, in military contractors hands. And
I just want you to know that, and it was
all he could do to not get shot, because you
can tell from his speech he's trying to say it
without saying it. That was the very first public speech
that I'm aware of where our top official is telling
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us no, I do not control what's occurring on the planet.
Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
All right, MD, this has been a great stuff to
talk about. I got to address the elephant in the
room because I've been wondering at all show. Have you
ever seen a foe? Did you ever see a UO
foe while you were in a desert storm?
Speaker 7 (01:05:03):
Or That's a great question. I wish I would have
seen one in desert storm. That would have made it
even more interesting. My only sighting.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
But I can say I think it's pretty official. I
was a high schooler in Seattle, Washington, of all things.
I was going to high school in Kent, Washington at
the time, and my house happened to have a view
of the Seattle skyline. So I was roughly twenty miles
from Seattle, and I had so across my window, I
was looking at the skyline of Seattle all the way
(01:05:32):
from one side, you know, towards Tacoma across I think
to Bellvue or whatever on the other side of Seattle.
But about a it seemed like my skyline was about
twenty miles across that I could view.
Speaker 7 (01:05:43):
And one night, I'm listening to a great rock and
roll station.
Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I think it was KISR, if I recall correctly, whatever
the biggest radio rock radio station was back in whatever
nineteen eighty and I see this light going back and
forth across the skyline. And I knew aircraft at that time,
even though I was only in high school. I had
my private license by then, and I knew all military
aircraft at that time, or at least the known ones.
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And the light was doing such crazy maneuvers across the
entire skyline and making right angle turns and going up
and down. I thought, that's not a helicopter. There's no
jet that can do that. I was just about to
call into the radio station when the DJ said, Okay,
we're stopping all music, and he basically said, we are
being flooded with calls of something over the city right now,
(01:06:31):
and nobody knows what it is. So that was my
first unverified, verified UFO sighting. So I can proudly say
I saw what I think was something from another planet.
Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
All right, then, but you've heard from have you heard
from other members of the Armed services who have seen
UFOs during the course of their service, like what in
the Navy or the Air Force or any other of
those branches.
Speaker 7 (01:07:05):
Not that they would outwardly say.
Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
I had a couple buddies from my squadron that had
to do an emergency landing in Area fifty one when
we were doing some exercises out there, and when they
came back to the squadron after being gone for two days,
they had clearly been debriefed that if they mentioned anything
they saw on the base it would be bad for them.
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And they were serious, because I knew them well, they
were buddies. I was like, bro, what what, what the hell?
Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
What did you see? And they're like, yeah, it was wild.
Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I'm like, don't tell me, you've been shut down, and
he just looked at me like, uh, yeah, I'm not
going to talk about it.
Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
And they had clearly been threatened.
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
And so that's all I can say is that it's
certainly there is certainly those forces out there that you
have to deal with if you are privy to something
that they don't want you to talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Interesting one of those recent members. One of those recent
hearings included the testimony of Dylan Borland. Did you have
a chance to hear what he had to say?
Speaker 7 (01:08:14):
I'm not familiar with Dylan Borland. What's his story?
Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
So Dylan Borland not only had encounters, but then was
retaliated by the government and now cannot get a job
because he said too much.
Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, well, I mean, you know, same with
Bob Lazar. I mean, it took him forever to establish
his own business. I mean, you know they I mean,
it's it's the same dog and pony show that they
do with anybody that they want to hammer. They can,
they can just make everything, every opportunity disappear. They're they're incredibly.
Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Powerful, and we'll go to any lengths possible to keep
this a secret. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
That's I think since even before Roswell Well, even all
the way back to Cape Girardo in nineteen forty one,
you have death by suicides of upstanding citizens who had
no reason to off themselves. And the word was out
even in nineteen forty one that there was military involvement
in the Cape Girardo area, as several upstanding citizens who
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wanted to report the three little aliens that came to
town suddenly committed suicide and it just didn't make any sense,
and the community was up.
Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
In arms about it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
There is a lot of if you want to look
into that, there's a lot of information regarding any crashed
ship or alien sighting. It just so happens to coincide
generally with death by suicide.
Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
So bring thought.
Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Into the pair of norm fear of.
Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
The thing about if even only a fraction of what
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we've heard on the program tonight is true, well, the
government has some explaining to do. Why can't they just
come clean though? That really is the question and the
I mean, what is to lose here? Do they think
we can't handle the truth? Would it make them look bad?
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I mean, what is the goal here? Is there something
nefarious going on that if more people knew about, maybe
would resist and that would cause a problem for them
or what?
Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
So that's that's an amazing thoughtful question. And I'll just
say this, keep the big picture in mind, at least
in my research, it's not really our government at fault here. Nothing,
nothing that you and I are discussing regarding alien traded
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technologies has to do with our government.
Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
But why can't they just say they don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Well, now you're stepping into the next level, which is
cabal control.
Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
And remember if you're if you were the kabal and.
Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
You wanted to keep people kind of on the edge, guessing,
thinking they're getting information but not getting information, and you
wanted to continue that indefinitely, you would put out on
one side there's definitely aliens and they're being hidden, and
you would put out on the other side of the
media there's no such thing as alien.
Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
Now that would keep.
Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Not only Americans, just humans spinning indefinitely if you just
kept doing that, which is what they've done. But if
you have a government that is really important to your
overall operation, like, for instance, the cabal still has to
have workers, it still has to have S four's, it
still has to have Kertland, which.
Speaker 7 (01:12:21):
Goes down fifty floors.
Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
And there's all kinds of alien not only aliens being
detained and genetically manipulated, but humans as well. I mean,
there's just so much deep underground military base I'll refer
to them as dums. But all of those dums, deep
underground military bases, they require funding. Right, So the question
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is why is it that our government is not stepping
forward to say, look, there is either aliens or not aliens.
But here it is like why are we not getting disclosure?
So a top down view says that our government doesn't
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run or work on any of the alien traded technologies
that the cabal has in its possession.
Speaker 7 (01:13:15):
Let's just say it S four as an example.
Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
If people don't know what S four is, it's a
area near Papoose Lake, Nevada, which is in area fifty
one south and a little bit west of Groom Lake.
Groom Lake is also a hotbed of alien traded technologies
that goes down.
Speaker 7 (01:13:35):
Many many floors.
Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
But using S four as a example, because a lot
of your listeners will be familiar with like Bob Bazar
and that type of a just alien sausage that are
being worked on or reverse engineered, those require a security force.
That security force has to be paid for. So let's
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just imagine like security guys running around that walk the
lines and walk around the ships, and so just starting
with even basics like security, that money comes from the
American taxpayer. And so to have that money come from
the American taxpayer, the US government is needed because those
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funds have to be accessed.
Speaker 7 (01:14:25):
Via the Cabal.
Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
The Cabal has to funnel those funds in some way,
so they've learned over the years what parts of the
US government's fiscal side to be in touch with to
make as Donald Rumsfeld said, two point three trillion dollars
in transactions go unaccounted for. Now, remember that's in one year.
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Take that to every year two point three trillion dollars
unaccounted for. To get that money, the Cabal needs oper
is within the government who are fiscal operatives that can
make certain channels appear and disappear that allow those funds
to continuously go to deep underground military projects, spaceports like
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Diego Garcia that are underwater, and just the.
Speaker 7 (01:15:22):
Off world stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Everything that's occurring with the Kabal has to be funded,
and the Kabal doesn't fund themselves, they will certainly pay
for certain things to occur because these are wealthy individuals
who are the Kabal, but they are from around the world.
They are not just Americans. This is a small group
of the absolute power players that manipulate and control events
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on the planet. On both sides of the Russian Ukraine conflict,
the Israeli Arab conflict, we're talking about a kabal that
controls both sides. Why because they make money off both
both sides. They make money. If tanks are being built,
they make money. If tanks are aren't being built and
it's being shifted to something else.
Speaker 7 (01:16:09):
I'm just trying to give you a big picture of
the cabal, because.
Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Then if you can see from the top, the top view,
if you're the kebal and you need more funding, and
America provides a lot, then you need operatives within the government,
not known officials, but the officials who've been there forever
who can make those things happen. And that includes top senators.
Speaker 7 (01:16:36):
And it may not be a person who gets to
stay in office long.
Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
I'm just saying that money and power, obviously there are
certain people who will fall toward that and go, hey,
I'll take a little extra this year if I just
have to sign off on a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
The short answer is they know. They're just paid to
say they don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
That's my belief, Jeremy, is that it's happening with the
help of a few people. But remember we always say
Congress and President like they're just a thing, like they've
been there forever. But what we don't. We don't say
is no. Our current Congress has not been there forever.
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They're there for four years. They don't even know what
occurred during the Obama administration. They don't know what happened
during Bill Clinton's administration, and certainly not during Nixon's administration.
They one senator doesn't know what another senator is doing
four years later.
Speaker 7 (01:17:37):
And that's the same with the president. You know.
Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
So if you keep in mind that I want it's
almost I want to reterm. Like our temporary president and
our temporary Congress don't know these things. That would be
a better way to visualize them. They are always revolving.
Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Final comments, MD, It's been an amazing chat that we've
had with you so far. I mean, we could probably
talk for another hour. We don't have an hour, so
let's sum it up here for the audience.
Speaker 7 (01:18:12):
Sure been great, Jeremy. You asked just incredible questions.
Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
The one thing that I would leave people with is
we're gonna be okay. We as humans and I'll cover
this a little bit in the book. We offer something
that from my understanding, we're almost considered royalty throughout the
multiverse because we have love and it's a thing that
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is so powerful that other malevolent alien races are absolutely
terrified because the intent of humanity when we get it together,
when we evolve into what we're supposed to be, according
to the alien races that are benevolent, that kind of
to us like you guys have no idea how powerful
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you are when you explode into what you're supposed to be.
And the reason the malevolent groups are here dealing with
our cabal is because they are aware what we're gonna be.
So I want to leave everybody with I'm putting out
a kind of a dark message. But the dark message
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is just to kind of let you know where we
are in stasis right now, like how much the cabal
holds sway right now.
Speaker 7 (01:19:31):
But humans are rising.
Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
And the Cabal knows it and the malevolent aliens know it.
So it's a it's a super bright future that's coming.
It's not going to be easy, but.
Speaker 7 (01:19:48):
We have an incredible future as humanity just ahead of us.
Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Oh, I appreciate you coming on the program. Best to you.
Speaker 7 (01:19:56):
Thank you so much, Jeremy, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
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