Ep. #849: Eugene Braxton – NDE/Alien Connection

People who have come close to death and returned often describe traveling to other realms and encountering beings from different dimensions. Many recall these near-death experiences in striking detail. Jeremy welcomes Eugene Braxton to discuss his NDEs, being on board UFOs and researching the link with alien phenomenon.

Episode Transcript

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We go with Jeremy's Scott.

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From the cold darkteps of a secret dungeon somewhere deep
in the remote Pacific Northwest. You know what this is
all about. It's about the subjects that are somewhere between
the paranormal and the abnormal. A week out from Halloween,
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that we don't have any actual dead air on that
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Thursday and Friday, a double dose of dead air next
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dot com, we've got nothing but Halloween shows playing all
the way up until our Dead air broadcasts for your
listening pleasure. Among the topics we discuss on the program,
some more popular than others. The near death experience actually

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resonates with a quite a few many of you. I'm
sure we've experienced those situations with friends and family members
where it's like a oh, you know what moment, Drop
everything you're doing, get to the hospital. Someone may only
have a few minutes or hours or days, whatever the

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case is, left, and some pass. Some come back from
those experiences and don't make it all the way. And
if that happens, boy, don't you have a story to tell.
These are vivid encounters reported by people who were yes,

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clinically dead, clinically dead before being revived. It is perhaps
not as common as some other experiences, but still about
ten percent of Americans have had a near death experience

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where you almost died or you were clinically dead and
then came back. We've talked with many over the years,
those who have experienced death and have come back. Probably
the most famous would be Danny and Brinkley. He's died

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several times, in fact, and people have died several different ways,
some of them very very painful. As you can imagine.
There's been quite a bit of research as well into
near death experiences, and one of the uh probably the

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leading figures in near death research is doctor Bruce Grayson.
He has spent decades, in fact, studying near death experiences.
He's the Carlson Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences
at the University of Virginia. Doctor Grayson says most experiencers

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actually struggle to even describe what happened, which suggests that
whatever lies beyond death is beyond a human comprehension. Perhaps
Through thousands of interviews that he's done with near death experienceers,

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Grayson found that ten to twenty percent of those who
have survived cardiac arrest report near death experiences often involved
feelings of peace, encounters with deceased loved ones, or indescribable

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beings what is he talking about? There also individuals reports
kind of a panoramic life review where your life is
literally played back to you, and for many they return

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with such a profound sense of purpose, but also a
loss of the fear of death. I think when you've
experienced something, you may not fear it so much as
they say, face your fears. For some it's haunted houses

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this time of the year. Sometimes you just got to
face your fears and you may lose your of whatever
that is in doing so. Now. I also wanted to
point out, simultaneous to what doctor Grayson has found in

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his research, his colleague Maryetta Pelly Venova. She is investigating
different ways to provide support for those who have NDS.
Very vital. Right, you've experienced death, you've come back from it.
You may not know how to handle that, and certainly

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medical professionals don't know what resources to offer those who
have gone through this. The research is, you know, certainly
not as accepted in the mainstream medical community as other

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research is, and so it falls through the cracks. So
it takes important research like this to really get a
sense of what we're dealing with here. And in the
case of this study, one hundred and sixty seven near
death experienceers, two thirds say they sought out some form

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of help afterwards, but are often met with skepticism from
medical professionals. As I was alluding to, around seventy percent
reported their religious or spiritual beliefs changing as a result
of their near death experience. So some interesting things to consider.

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Considering when doctor Grayson talks about indescribable beings again, what
is he talking about? Is he talking about aliens? Interdimensional beings?
Along those lines, I found this story, which comes from
the Daily Mail. Brianna Lafferty, thirty three year old woman

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from Colorado, suffers from a rare neurological disorder that nearly
claimed her life. She was diagnosed with this condition that
causes severe muscle spasms and disrupts normal bodily functions. It
was during her what she perceived to be final moments

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that she described encountering other beings that didn't appear human
yet felt strangely familiar, she says, along with a guiding
presence that seemed to lead her through this experience. Wondering
if there is a connection between near death experiences and

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alien abductions. Well, Tonight's guest has worked with some of
the leading authorities in this field of research, and he'll
join us. His name Eugene Braxton. Perhaps you've heard him
on the program a time or two. I'm Jeremy Scott.
Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal, into the pair

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of normal, will continue.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
Into the pair of normal, pair of.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I'm Jeremy Scott, somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
We have done quite a few episodes over the years.
We're in the eight hundred and fifties approaching now, and
throughout that time our conversations have evolved as I've grown

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to understand some of these subjects. I hope that you've
grown as well along with us. If you go back
to some of the early early interviews of the program,
it was as if we treated much of this phenomena independently,

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and it certainly does appear the more and more that
we discuss this material, there are connections that can be made.
And so when we hear of individuals like Brianna and others,
and doctor Grayson's talked with hundreds, if not thousands, who

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have told him they may have encountered some sort of
non human intelligence as well. So this is definitely a
visitation of some sort. It's a contact experience, and it
could even be an abduction. But we have heard of

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descriptions of individuals then being on board craft and around
them are a variety of species that maybe are human,
maybe are hybrids, maybe are all extraterrestrial, A variety of

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beings it's a fascinating thought, disturbing maybe for others, but
I'm so honored that we can have back to discuss
this tonight on the program. Eugene Braxton wrote a book
many years ago, America's Mystic Solves the Near Death Riddle,
and he has worked with some of the world's leading

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authorities on near death experiences and a Leaen abductions and
his research this for many many years. He's had these
onboard encounters actually after a near death experience. So it's
a very fascinating to welcome you, Gene back to the program.
How are you, hey, Jeremy, How you doing, my man?

(12:45):
I'm doing great. It's so good to have you on
the program.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
We've talked a few times over the years, and your
stories are always fascinating. You've had these first hand experiences,
but you've also researched it quite a bit. So tell
us about you know, your research into the subject, you
know who you've worked with and what you've been doing.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, Yeah, I started off as a kid psychic and
teenage psychic. Had a near death at fifteen, a pretty
big one. I had a UFO thing at nineteen UFO
incident in the twenties developed the psychic abilities, and they

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were heavy in the teens and younger years. In the
twenties I acknowledged and began to work with these abilities,
and by the thirties I had begun to master them.
So at age thirty nine and I had a lot
of different experiences Jeremy haunted houses, near depth, near death lights,

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where you almost styled, you almost get hit by a
car with you with me, I heard a voice at
the last second I told me to stop, and I
stopped on one foot. So I had like the full
gamut out of bodies. I've had like twelve thousand out
of bodies, dreams all kinds, and dream control, nightmares, lucid
dream and all that stuff and so and was go

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along with meditation, and then later in the older years
would come fasting, which heightened those abilities and more. The
haunted house was like a booster to heighten those psychic abilities.
So in ninety seven I saw an article at mom's
a Newsweek article about near death experiences. So I looked
at it. Saw a guy named Bruce Grayson, a doctor

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who seemed really open to the idea of near death experiences,
that they were real and he was actually studying it.
He said that if any people have had them or
want to contact him, do so I did, and I
told a couple other friends to write these to him
and other scientists about the psychic experiences. None of them

(15:07):
ever did. I did, and then I forgot about it.
A month later he wrote me back and invited me
to become involved in his near death research. There was
a personality study, some evaluations I gave him like a
psychic resume of what had happened to me, and they
were actually looking for a childhood psychic who had also

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had a near death, and I fit that pattern perfectly.
So I worked with doctor Grayson for three years. Then
I switched to doctor PMH Atwater. She was a female,
she had died before, she had died three times. She
became my near death mentor. I had studied her work

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in the nineties and fully agreed with it. And it's
good when you have a researcher who's also a real experiencer,
and she was because you can tell by the way
she writes and what she talks about it's advanced, but
she can explain it in a normal way. So she's
and she became my near death mentor she understood more

(16:17):
in a three dimensional way than Grayson did. Although Grayson
was the white lab coat Baron Frankenstein of the near
deaf research, he had all the credentials, he understood. He's
Dean of psychology, chairman of this and so you needed both.
You needed the experiencer and you needed the scientific rigor

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of a Grayson. Doctor Ring, Kenneth Ring was also in
that mix. And it was Ring who at once surmised
and saw connection. He saw parallels between near death experiences
and uf books. And I looked into that while I

(17:04):
was with Grayson and saw some and saw some similar
patterns in my own near death and they were to me,
they were glaring. I worked at that time, This was
in ninety seven. I worked. I was working with Grayson,
doctor Jacobs, the UFO World Authority. Just happened. It's funny

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how life works. Just happened to work at the same
campus temple where I worked. He worked with in the
history department. I worked in the police department, which was
right next door to the history department. I was a floater.
I was about the room anywhere I wanted on campus,
talk to any student, go in the second lave and
do and whatever I want. So in the downtimes I

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would go to off work. After I got off work
at two thirty, I would go to his office. We
talked until seven eight. The first time I met him,
he took me out to They have like a buffet
on campus. So we went there in eight and I
told him about mine near death and what I thought

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I saw happening, and I wanted to get his opinion
and if he saw anything or saw the same things.
I didn't tell him exactly what I've saw, but I
want to see if he saw anything related to UFOs.
And he said, Eugene, you're one hundred percent correct. He
wanted to come out with that then, but I was

(18:32):
working with Grayson. I was actually working with both of
them at the same time. I told him, now, the
life after death research is more important than the UFO research,
even though the UFO research is active and happening. Now
everyone will die at a certain time, but not everyone
will see a UFO or be abducted. So the life

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after death had to come first. It's more important to
humans and then the UFO research. So I stayed with
doctor Jacobs. I was also working at Water two at
the same time for twelve years. In two about twenty fourteen,
I'm still with Doctor Atwater, and in my Near Death book,

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Jeremy I wrote it in a way that would fully
explain the near death stage by stage, level of consciousness
by level of consciousness, and in such a way that
it would lead the reader subconsciously into the patterns of
the UFO connection.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
All right, so we're gonna spell that out for the
audience when we continue with Eugene Braxton. Somewhere between the
paranormal and the abnormal, I'm Jeremy Scott into the parabormal.

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Speaker 7 (21:19):
I was sucked into this tremendous vortex of blue white light.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
The alien abduction experience had something profound in common with
experiences claimed by people who had a brush with death.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
It wasn't until after them near death experience that I
started to see these press.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
These are very different kinds of experiences, but their after effects,
as well as the factors that predisposed people to have them,
are very similar, surprisingly similar.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Into the pair of normal with Jeremy Scott. Somewhere between
the pair of normal and out.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
And and we're with Eugene Braxton tonight. A connection between
near death experiences and UFO alien contact. You heard a
clip there from doctor Kenneth Ring to Eugene was alluding
to he was one of the first that began to

(22:31):
find this connection, right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Jeremy, Yeah, that's nice, A nice clip of doctor Ring. Yeah,
he noticed had some interesting observations. Kind of let it go.
Although doctor Raymond Fowler investigated it too, let's see a

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little earlier, either in the early or the mid to
late eighties. So Raymond Fower is onto that too with
his Betty Andreas in case where she apparently died, was abducted,
died aboard the UFO. They resurrected her and she was

(23:17):
able to recall a good amount and I believe, let's see,
I believe she recalled it under hypnosis, which I didn't
do any hypnosis. After Betty Hill, who is a family friend,
kind of said warned against it. She said, don't let
anyone ever get in your head. So but getting back

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to where we were, I was working with Atwater and
doctor Jacobs at the same time, not really letting them
know what I was onto until I had fully confirmed
it myself. But I saw some interesting anomalies, first in

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my near death and in other near deaths, because I've
been studying them since eighty five. When people started talking
about them, I asked PMH her feelings about UFOs, and
at that time, this is about two thousand and one,

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she said she had an interest in them, but because
she was an actual doctor at a university, and because
of her status with academia, she couldn't really come out
at that time and start talking about UFOs. If she

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were to be taking seriously at say an atheist university
who barely took near death seriously, you had to be
someone on doctor Grayson level before they would even consider
taking you seriously. He's like the Baron Frankenstein of the
near death research. But he's a good man. So I

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asked the pm HS around two thousand and one, two
thousand and two, what her feelings were not mentioned in
the Near Death just her feelings in general's general on UFOs,
and she said it was an interesting thing, hadn't wasn't
really wouldn't be feasible for her to talk about that

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when she was still cementing her legacy as a near
death researcher. So she kept purposely kept out of the
UFO topic until this summer when I interviewed her. Now
she's retired, and I don't know if she retired because
of this, but a year or two after giving her

(25:56):
my book, she began to speak up UFO near death connection.
I interviewed her this summer and she did confirm, and
it's good to have a world authority on your side
with this. She knew I was right, and if she
didn't come out with it, she knew that I would.

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She did confirm that there is a UFO near death connection.
I have the full details, but she sees that I
am right on track with this, just like with the
near death, and it's a heavy connection to Jeremy. So
that was good to have her, and I don't know
her depth of UFO research. These kind of researchers usually

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only stick to their own field, like Grayson knew nothing
about Well it's not Grayson, but one doctor knows nothing
about out of bodies, but he knows everything about uo's
the The out of body doctor doesn't know about near death.
The near death doesn't know about haunta houses or dreams,
and so it's there were very few doctors, and especially

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doctors who didn't study the full three hundred and sixty
degree field of paranormal activity and events I had. I
had experienced almost every major form of paranormal events, and
that's where I could see the glaring anomalies in mine
near death and went to doctor Jacobs to see what

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he said and to sy test his insight. He saw
what I saw and said, yeah, I was absolutely correct.
And that was back then even to think about like
the solving of the near death as wild, but then
to add in the uf both would be super out there,

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a quantum super leaked, especially for a normal university professor.
But at that time I was on the mystic level
because of my own UFO experiences and near death. I
had to I had to find out exactly what was happening.
And so I was able to work with those new

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scientists fully extract what they knew, mix it in with
what I knew Experio and Chierley, and then come up
with my own conclusion and Grayson, I mean at order
and Jacobs fully approved. And then I went on to
continue on with the near death, and then the alien

(28:34):
connection and the alien connection with the near death will
be the focus of my next book book two.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Interesting the first one.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yes, sorry, go ahead, Jim.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
No, we'll continue to lay this out for the audience tonight.
Because in one of your near death experiences, you had
a onboard UFO encounter, right.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yes, yes, that was the one I had at a
y let's see it was fourteen. It was the summer
of tenth graders. Either I was fourteen, Yes, and that's
a you know that was in the seventies. That's a
deep thing for a kid to first die and then
kind of record in a spot like a way right, thought.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
We got to take a break with Eugene Braction and Eugene,
we're gonna try to get a better audio connection for
the audience. I'll work on that one second. Somewhere between
the paranormal and the abnormal, I'm Jeremy Scott.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
Into the paronormal pair of.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
All right, I'm Jeremy's how we're talking with that. Eugene
Braxton America's Mystic Solves Near Death Riddle is this book
that was released back in twenty fourteen. But he's got
a new one coming out that will get more into
the connection with aliens based on his encounter, which we're
about ready to hear. And that's a based on his experience,

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So I mean following a near death experience. Now we're
talking about a UFO encounter a gene while you were
a teenager.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yes, Jeremy, Now did you say UFO or near death?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Well, you had both. You were mentioning you had the
near death experience, but you also had a UFO experience
and both those were in your teens, right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
One at fourteen, the other at about nineteen, and both
were yes.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah. But you also said that while you were a
sophomore around fourteen, you had a UFO experience.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I had the near death at fourteen, and then nineteen
the UFO.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Okay, all right, I want to make sure we got
those rights. So the near death experience preceded the UFO
the experience. Yes, And in this experience, which would have
been after high school, now at nineteen, you were taken
on a UFO.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yes, yes, or maybe you couldn't even say taken back
on a UFO because I had had what we would
now call astral abductions and astral attempted adductions during the
sleep state during my teens, and I remember struggling with them.

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But this time this UFO was like a full one
with a missing time. I was with her friend, luckily Roger.
We're in kent Ohio. Uh missing time. Then the last
thing we remember is that's shooting straight up and then
curving off into the sky. There was that I had

(32:15):
some strong super strong psychic teenage years, but the near death.
And when I wrote to Grayson, I didn't know what
he would be interested in, but you know, I thought
maybe because I had had a lot, and I thought
maybe in dream control, uh, the UFO. But he did

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pick near death and he was a near death research
and I had and so that was good because it
made me fully analyze and think about the near death
and some experiences, just like the near deaths in UFOs,
you might shrug off or put them in the back
of your mind until you're like mentally and spiritually mature

(32:58):
enough to think about them and reflect on them. And
I had plenty of time from the seventies to the nineties,
I give me a good twenty years, and then another
twenty five years till now, so I had a lot
of time. And the near death should fully reflect on
their experience and revolve in their mind, meditate on it
and study other near death ors, other near death movies,

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all that stuff. But it's a thing you can fully
get absorbed into.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
So several onboard UFO experiences, if I'm understanding you correctly.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, I would. There were astral abductions, definitely, and then
this one with me and Roger is probably a physical abduction.
He doesn't remember anything now.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Who is Roger Roger?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
He's Roger Keel. He was a kent Ohio friend, teenage
friend of mine.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
And you both were taken together.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I don't even remember that fully. I may remote view that,
but it was definitely all the missing time, a blank
space where we saw the craft over a baseball field. Once.
I even got out of the car and sat on
the windowsill of the you know, of the window, and

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looked over the hood at it, and then time slowed down.
There were cars a block or two away on both sides,
but they did not move during that time. Everything just stopped.
Next thing we remember, the craft zoomed up in the
sky then curved off faster than any jet, good and
quietly too. When we got back to the house where

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our friends were, they said that we were like two
or three hours late, and we left, as I remember,
like around before eight, between seven fifteen and eight. I
don't remember when we got back, but according to him,
we were hours late. And and then you go ahead

(35:01):
with your teenage life and kind of put them in
the background. But being with Grayson helped me to re remember,
and then even write down, which helps bring back more
memories what happened to me in the near death because
no one had really asked me that before, and I
hadn't told too many people, only Mom and Roger and
a high school friend, Dave Horny. So I was able

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and I was asked to explain a lot of things.
So instead of telling doctor Grayson what happened, I decided
I'm going to tell him what really happened. And that's
what started the research.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
So what do you remember about being on board this UFOU.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
The time with Roger, not a lot, but the during
the near death and with the astral abductions, I remember
more I had and because I remember, so I had
like twelve out of twelve thousand out of bodies throughout
my teenage years and ten years, and I had I
would have about six different types of sleep experiences a night,

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Like I would have a nightmare, then I have a
flying dream that I have a normal dream. Then I'd
have a dream that I could control. Then I'd have
an out of body, then the paralysis, then an actual abduction.
So you have that six times a night, and it
really affected the sleep. I haven't saw her. Now you

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have that kind of stuff six times a night, and
for ten years you get used to it. So by
about the age it started at six, at the age
of thirteen, I was really seven years later, I was
really good at I could I knew exactly the mechanics
of an out out of body. I could literally watch
it while it was happening. The paralysis is an interesting

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feature because, in fact, just like the out of body,
the paralysis is a tie that binds all these things together,
like at the moment of death and during an out
of body and an alien reduction. Paralysis is the main
feature of that. There are other main features too, and
it took years of mastering these experiences to see which

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ones belong in which room. Like these experiences are like
different rooms of God's paranormal mansion, and continuity of consciousness
and meditation can unlock the doors of each room where
you can experience one thing, then another, then another. The

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ability is usually sprout during the sleep stages at night,
because that's when your subconscious is most awake and it
begins to do its Usually with it'll begin with sleep disturbances,
not all bad, but you'll have sleep anomalies and disturbances.
These disturbances if you pay attention to them, we'll begin

(38:10):
to especially when you get to the dream control, flying dreams,
and then out of body. The out of bodies will
initiate you having psychic experiences in the daytime and at night,
so you will be psychic. Then twenty four to seven,
it begins with the dawning of psychic abilities during the

(38:32):
sleep stick it goes into meditation. And I did these
breathing exercises, Jeremy, for sports, because I see it enhanced
the speed, the strength of lifting, weightlifting, I swim, and
the basketball, bstling, all the sport.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, you had told us you were a swimmer, you
were a high school athlete, and so you had done
a lot of these breathing techniques which then came to
be beneficial once you start having these experiences.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Right, yes, a full multi athlete, right way into districts.
This cross country won the state, swimming won the state,
and did all the sports. So I saw that the
breathings helped fully. But well, I didn't know that they
were unlocking the the barnyard psychic doors of my spiritual nature.

(39:19):
Those breathing exercises that I used to help me in
sports were unlocking the psychic abilities fully, which at that
time I didn't want, and I was doing the exact opposite.
I was making more come on to me. I was
glad later, but at that time, as a teenager, you
just want to do your teenage thing. You don't want
to be floating above your bed and stuff like that.

(39:40):
But at age eleven I did ask for them. I said,
it promised to God that he would show me all
these invisible things that no man or king ever knew.
I will always tell people about you. And I forgot
that promise, but he didn't. So about two years later,
this promise was at age nine. At age eleven, they
started heavily and for ten straight years, so I got

(40:03):
really used to them. I had been near death the
UFO and then got into the research with the scientists.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
All right, we will pause there, so we end the
hour with Eugene Braxton. But more is to come somewhere
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Speaker 3 (41:44):
He's got more with a Eugene Braxton tonight. He's had
a what he estimates are about twelve hundred out of
body experiences throughout his lifetime near death experiences UFO encounters.
Also has psychic abilities and has worked with doctor Bruce Grayson,
doctor David Jacobs, PMH Atwater, to name a few, to

(42:08):
learn more about this phenomenon. And so tell us about
your thoughts on the research that has been done up
to this point on this subject. As you mentioned earlier,
it seems like it's all privatized, right. Certain individuals only

(42:29):
investigate and you stay in their lane and they don't
cross over. Is anybody really investigating this connection between near
death experiences in alien contact today? Besides doctor Grayson that
you're aware of.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
There is one group who is interested in trying to
tie all these things together. However, they don't have the
near death component. They asked me to be involved in
their research, but at that time I couldn't. And I'm

(43:09):
sure you know it's Ray Hernandez and his organization, the
Free Foundation. What was the Free Foundation?

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Sure they are, but.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
They didn't have the near death component, they asked me.
But for inside reasons I couldn't but yeah, about the
scientists are only learning their own niche or discipline. That's
a mistake. Ring because of his level was allowed to

(43:45):
look over and I didn't know why, maybe because of
the lack of UFO knowledge, although he seemed to know
it better than Grayson did, and so I was looking
for him at one time to continue on. But he
went into other things, like with blind near death ors,
and at that time eighty eight to ninety two, that

(44:07):
would seem super far fetched to even think about connecting
the UFO abduction. And at that time Jacobs was just
getting started to life after death. But now you know,
thirty years later, maybe thirty five, we know so much more.
I had to wait from the the near death research

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was finished in twenty o two. I had to wait
until at least twenty twenty twenty twenty five to come
out with a near death connection. I alluded to it
right after my book was published in twenty fourteen to
get people ready, but I knew I couldn't come out
with it to normally or even just a scientists until

(44:49):
at least twenty twenty five it could be. And the
public learned at a rapid rate, which is good because
if you give information to the public, they're super smart.
They can figure out too. And those scientists they go
to the regular people anyway for their information. They're just
better at organizing it and analyzing it. So when both

(45:12):
those two, the public and the scientists, fully merge and mix,
especially if you have people who are advanced psychics or mystics,
then you can really advance those fields because you need
both sides. And PMH was a good example of a
researcher who was a psychic, and I guess I am too.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah, definitely your abilities, when do those come into play?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
During the teenage years and then as my personality cemented
in the twenties and thirties, I was able to control, develop,
and then amplify them. And there is one point, you know,
in my thirties, when you're young and stuff, you want
to have as all the powers you can get, uh,

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And so there was. I was once in a mode
where I wanted to increase the abilities fully and that's
where the Haunted House came in. I knew that it
had a lot of electro magnetic metic energy in it.
And during my near death I went through some gamma rays.
I didn't know what gamma rays really were at that time,

(46:23):
but I knew that they were gamma rays. And when
I later checked as an adult, that's exactly what they were.
I was up high. That was in spirit body form.
Now where was I? Jeremia just kind of lost track
just then.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
That's okay. I had asked you about your psychic ability haunted,
and you're talking the haunted.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Every time a person has even if it's a powerful dream,
that dream uh raises the person's psychic abilities. Now, when
the person has a dream and then an out of body,
that raises them even more because in the auto body state,
you take in that cosmic residue and it stays with

(47:13):
you when you wake up. If you include the breathings
in with dreams, you'll then go to out of bodies.
The out of bodies will then make you psychic twenty
four seven, and then you will be a currents prone
where the psychic abilities will continue to come and you

(47:33):
may not for a while be able to stop them,
but usually you won't have anything stronger than you can handle,
and you should definitely take your time with them because
they can be powerful, like life changing, like a UFO
thing with a near death where you could literally be fractured.
So the straighter the person is, the more likely they

(47:55):
are to have these experiences and integrate them fully into
their psyche.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
So then, have you had telepathic communication with non human beings?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yes, in those realms, they don't use words, they don't
verbally speak. They speak mind to mind and you understand
it just like in that realm, like just like in
this world. We have certain physical laws in that world
that's certain, invisible or spiritual laws, and some of them

(48:36):
are You can thought actuation. If you think that you're
in China, you'll quickly pop right into China. You'll go
at light speed there before the thought even ends. Levitation
is normal. Seeing three hundred and sixty degrees around you

(48:57):
at the same time as normal of seeing fluctuations in
your invisible spirit body is normal. Knowing everything or being
mixed in with eternity is normal. Coming back after those
experiences with super strong psychic effects is normal, and those

(49:20):
psychic effects will get stronger every year for the rest
of that person's natural life, especially if you have a
near death and out of body or an alien encounter.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
That's what happened with you.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yes, Yes, each one of those experiences gave me amplified
psychic abilities back then and still now, and they reverberate
and get stronger each year. Even a powerful dream can
set that off, so they're all connected. The dream is
the little brother of the out of body, out of
body little brother to the near death. And then uh,

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near death would be actually on an even par even
though it's seemingly opposite part of the UFO alien abduction encounter.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Interesting stuff, and we've got a pause, but we'll be
right back with Eugene Braxton somewhere between the paranormal and
the abnormal on into the parabnormal. I'm Jeremy Scott.

Speaker 9 (50:36):
Into the paraborm talking about the connection tonight between near

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death experience is about ten percent of the population is
said to have had at one point or another in
their life and alien abductions.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
That would be the lesser minority that would have had
one of these experiences. Far more have had near death
experiences than alien abduction experiencers. So we're not saying that
every near death experience leads to an alien abduction experience.
But there have been some similarities that over the years

(51:32):
we've heard alluded to, not only by experiencers, by those
in the medical field and other professions as well. And
Eugene Braxton has experienced all of these realities, if not
all at once, at different points throughout his life. Gene,
anything else you want to say in particular about what

(51:54):
we've discussed so far.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah, Jeremy, here are some of the things that we
learned and I learned through the research of both near
death and the UFO abduction thing. Your primary purpose on
this earthplane is to find yourself, then find your God
within yourself and by yourself. Human beings were created by

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the Creator in such a way that ecstasy is the
primary method of conduct slash control for sentient beings. Ecstasy
at a high spiritual level is also associated with that
process of transformation between life or death. Whenever there is
a deviation in your levels of consciousness, there is also
a simultaneous deviation in the physiology of your invisible spirit body,

(52:43):
and at the same time, acting as a triad, there
is also a corresponding deviation and dimensional time and space,
And if you know that that's all you need to know.
Focus concentration during advanced meditation produces emerging into things and
one becomes one with one's object of focus. The type
of love human beings seek here on earth can only

(53:05):
come from above where God is that divine love that
we actually deserve, and not just like an inkling of
some of the things we have. We have the every
change in the physiology of the invisible spirit body during
each near depth stage. We have an entity known as
the Controller. This is in both the Near Death and

(53:27):
the UFO disciplines, that roams the paranormal corridors at will,
doing what he may. The scientist I work with refer
to the Controller as God as the scientists refer to
this being as the Controller because they're not allowed to
say God like that and it involves research, and also

(53:53):
because this controller being represents a God force or the
opposite of a God force, so there's a lot to
it in both disciplines. The near death was super fantastic,
and people want to know that about that because they
will die in time. There is a wife after death,
but there is also the aliens.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
So what kinds of entities have you personally come across?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
In both the near there in the near death entities
seem to be guides, whereas the UFO entities seem to
be instructors or teachers. These beings can come as a

(54:51):
wave like colors, or they can be seen as lights,
shimmering lights, as spiritual lights. They can be seen as grays,
or they can be just heard audibly. But there are

(55:13):
beings in both encounters, more so in the near death
now in the more so in the UFO abduction. In
the near death, the beings the encounter for a symbolic
like in my near death, I saw three huge what
looked like planet sized spheres, and these were actually spheres

(55:35):
of consciousness. They were alive and sentient, and the rays
given off by these spheres affected the physiology and the
the intellectual capacities of my spirit body and of me.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
UH.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
These rays that came off of these spheares and any
light that's usually involved in a near death or a
UFO generally will elevate the person and also clean them
at the same time, particularly if it's a white light
that's the strongest of all the esoteric lights, and it enhances,

(56:14):
elevates and cleanses the person. UH to go up to
another higher level of ascension. It's an interesting field. They're
heavy overlaps in both, just like in the there's a
central figure in both the UFO and the near death.

(56:34):
Levitation is involved in both, paralysis is involved in both fields.
There's a life review or an accounting of one's life
in both fields. There's a you know, telepathy as as
the form of of communication. Instant knowing after effects are

(56:59):
involved in both things. And there's a lot more too.
The controller is an interesting figure, and when we've when
he is found, then we will most likely find the
aliens too.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
When will that be?

Speaker 6 (57:17):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
In man's time or in spiritual time? Well, I mean
the answer is really already known now inside of us,
but a lot of times people want evidence like uh
i uh. In my near death, I tracked I literally

(57:40):
tracked God during the near death because I was looking
for the central controller or controlling agent in the near death.
And during the near death research, I had to remote
view back into my own near death to verify that
what I saw the first time was accurate and correct.
And so I wrote a one or two paragraph thing

(58:05):
that encompasses both the experience and the near death research.
And I'm going to read it real quick. I sent
this to Grayson because he controls our life and death.
It is the controller because it cannot be easily seen.
He is the agent. It is he God, the controlling
agent in charge. Like a spiritual hunter that I look

(58:26):
for God's spiritual tracks throughout my end, completely sensing but
never seeing him until stage twelve, the final stage before resurrection.
In time, the Controller's footprints began to appear throughout my
near death to my physical and spiritual vision during in
years after the ND stalking, God's spiritual tracks involved analyzing

(58:49):
of availing truth beyond the illusionary veils in several of
the near death stages, but confirming the essence identity of
God or the Controller only be attained by merging melting
back into my near death and also merging into God's
present essence as well for eight distressing months, with confirmation

(59:10):
coming suddenly and completely. And so that is the hunt
for the controller, and it also sums up what happened
during mynor death research. And I did a picture. There's
a picture that goes along with that too that shows
a life review and the other things that happened. But
both fields are super intriguing. Invisible fields of spiritual science.

(59:38):
And when you get the experiences involved, or experiences as researchers,
then you can zoom ahead of what the scientists are doing,
because science will always lag behind true spirituality. And when
there's a marriage between science and mysticism, then you'll get

(59:59):
some deep results.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
We will pause and return in moments with Eugene Braxton,
author of America's Mystic Souls Near Death Riddle, and we're
making the connection tonight to the alien phenomenon as well,
and we'll continue somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
And I'm Jeremy Scott on into the pair.

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Abnormal pair of noormal news. I'm George Henry. A fiery
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Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
Must have died on the operating table.

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I died and heart surgery. I was electrocuted to death.

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It was underwater and die.

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They put me into a room in the.

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ICU will in that coma, he saw beings.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I just saw this large head hovering over top of me.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
I remember being levitated, and after that, I just remember
being on a table.

Speaker 10 (01:01:50):
Most people will talk about going through a long, darkened,
clothed space to get from this fiscal world to the
other realm.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Whether it's unexplained or just plain strange, there is your
kind of show into the fair of normal.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Some who have experienced death, they've either been clinically dead
and they've come back, or I think we're right on
the brink and their life has flashed before them. They've
encountered entities of all shapes and sizes and varieties, non
human intelligence, alien intelligence, sextraterrestrial intelligence, whatever you'd like to

(01:02:38):
call it. So there does appear to be some connection
between near death experiences and alien phenomenon. We're talking about
this tonight with Eugene Braxton, America's Mystic. So you mentioned
you experienced the life review through this process. What was
that like?

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
In essence, it's a panoramic life review where in mind
was I found myself floating in the middle of a
circular band, the kind like they have in the amusement
parts where you lean up against the wall and the
bottom dropped and you're stuck to the wall. It was
similar to that, just a little bit bigger. I was

(01:03:21):
floating in the middle of that. I could see three
screens once everything I did, everything I said, and everything
I thought. And these screens were three dimensional in vision
in the same way where you would shuffle a decade
cards and you can see all the numbers at once,
So you could see them like that. They flashed multi

(01:03:44):
dimensionally into your mind. Everything I saw, thought, or did,
and the effects that it had on others. I could
feel like one time I threw a rock at a kid,
and I could feel the rock hitting him. During my
near death life review, he also would throw the rock
back at me and it hit me too. But in

(01:04:04):
my life review, I hadn't really done anything. I was
only fourteen, pretty clean. I hadn't really done anything that
they could say anything about. But they did ask me
three questions, what have I done to improve myself? What
have I done to help help others? And have you
always believed in me? And one I said yes to

(01:04:27):
all of them. I was suddenly there was a lapse
of consciousness. And that's something that happens in both the
near death and the UFO disciplines, a lapse of consciousness
whenever that happens in dreams too, and out of bodies.
There are a lot of tie ins. If you know,
especially if you know the out of body and the

(01:04:49):
near death, you can connect that to the others because
the out of body can connect to the dreams, and
the near death can connect to the UFO, especially if
you know it by heart, like if you get my
you can see the connections. If you have any kind
of knowledge or experience with the near death, you can
see the connections. I laid it out the Life Review. Yes,

(01:05:11):
so everything I see and thought I did. I was
hovering in the air telepathic communication and that was about
it for the Life Review. There's this multi dimensionally three
hundred and sixty degree vision. I could see all around me.
That was about it for the Life Review. Although the

(01:05:31):
Life Review is an interesting and perhaps central figure and
the overall near death UFO connection. We can get back
to that, but with the UFO thing, as the near
death brings primal ecstasy with an ivonic bliss, the rapturous

(01:05:52):
waves of ecstasy that you experience, the UFO encounter alien
abduction thing brings dream primal fear. And doctor j was
right when he says that it's basically and actually a
system of control and manipulation. The alien beings are. They're

(01:06:18):
really not good. These beings are spiritual in nature, psychological
in method, and many researchers and many three quarters of
the public believe that they may be demonic in origin.
The Collins Elite, that UFO secret group that was set

(01:06:42):
up in the fifties, believed that they were ghemonic in
origin and began to study them. The Colins Elite. That's
an interesting thing, and they were actually onto something. J
Allen Heinick felt and as well as Jack Oli felt,
feel that they are and they were malevolent in nature.

(01:07:06):
Especially doctor Jane, he was exactly right. There's something not right.
With the aliens in the alien of douction, too much, subterfuge,
too much sneaking into the bedrooms at night, the paralyzation,
and it's that para. When they paralyze us, they have
easy access to our out of body. We have three

(01:07:29):
types of out of body, spontaneous, controlled out of body,
and uncontrolled. It's the uncontrolled out of bodies that we
feel they have can control and do control in astral form,
like during an astral abduction. So it's a lot to

(01:07:49):
look over, and but it's super worth it and super interesting.
But yeah, definitely a system of control with the out
of body. One brings primal fear, the other primal ecstasy,
two polar opposites, and so it would be hard back
then for bringing them to see any kind of connection
with two things, never seemingly the opposite, but they are

(01:08:10):
super intertwined and are My second book will fully explain
it as detailed as my first book explained their life
after death near death.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
So there's obviously an agenda here on the part of
the aliens. Are they trying to kill people, are they
causing these near death experiences or is this just some
sort of coincidence here? When you have one of these experiences,

(01:08:43):
the veil is thinner and there for your having these encounters.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Yes, yeah, like you said, their agenda, Actually they have
a single really, they have a single agenda, which is
to as above so below, to bring literal hell or
an earth. They're a jealous The aliens are jealous of

(01:09:10):
humans as for some angels, and they want to physicalize
like we are. They want to become physical so they
can enjoy the earthly pleasures and the orgy like pleasures
that they did in Rome and they do now all
over the world. And they want to drink wine and lust.

(01:09:31):
So their number one goal is to physical lives, and
they can do that by extracting the electromagneticity electromagnetic energy
from our soul's essence.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
All right, hold that thought will continue. In fact, wrap
up our conversation with Eugene Braxton right after.

Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
This into the paranormal parent.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
We're talking about to alien abductions along with near death experiences.
Why are individuals having contact after say a drowning, a
car accident, shooting, I mean, any of the thousand ways
or more that you could possibly die, but somehow you
you hang on, you make it and now you have

(01:11:05):
these vivid recollections of what happened to you when you
were in between realms. Talking with the Eugene Braxton here
about the connection to the alien phenomenon with the near
death experiences and really getting into the agenda of you
know what these beings want from us, please continue and

(01:11:26):
to help us sum this all up, Eugene in the
final moments we.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Have yeah, Jeremy, Yeah. Their agenda is control and to
physical lives on Earth. Their method soul like energy extraction.

(01:11:51):
Also a heavy overlap in both of these disciplines is
and I found in the near death research that in
both of these experiences there are heavy, heavy memory issues.
And here are seven that I found that are associated
with the clarity, accuracy, and recall in near deaths and

(01:12:16):
UFO abductions. And they are lapses and consciousness problems with
memory recall, problems with memory retention, memory retrieval, problems with
memory accuracy, memory suppression, and false memories that the aliens
put on us. So there's a lot of then I

(01:12:37):
can go in on any of one of those. There's
a lot of issues with and that's a control factor
the smother someone's memory like that where they can't remember anything,
and it happens more in the UFO than it does
in the near death. But where the near death is
an ascension type of thing, where it's raising you to

(01:12:58):
a higher level, the near death is heavily problematic if
full of control, and it's just an invisible darkness that
is with it. There's something not right about it. It's
not it's not it's not good mystically. It's not good mystically.

(01:13:19):
Doctor Jay's right about that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Is this a violating thing to have happen?

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yes? The abduction, Yes, because a lot of times it
happens without your knowledge. And in some cases it might
be better because if we could experience a full abduction
with complete recall, it would probably practure our psyche. So uh,
maybe they're doing us a favorite, but we should still

(01:13:47):
be able to have the recall if we want it,
and we should know what's happening to us. Uh And
they uh. With the astro abduction, that's where the full
energy is not in the body. It's that soul. It's
the invisible spirit body where they can harness that and
live another five hundred years. There's a lot of energy

(01:14:08):
in the electromagnetic body of the essence of our spirit body,
and that's what they extract. And instead of just literally
taking the physical body like they did Barney and Betty Hill,
just take the spirit body during an out of body
experience when the clown is asleep on the sofa, you know.
Uh So it's a lot to that. But there's a

(01:14:30):
there's something not good about the alien thing. Doctor Jacobs
is right, it's yeah, it's not a good. It's not good.
It's the opposite of the ecstatic near death life after death.
There is a life after death, but there are also
the aliens and they inhabit the same dimensional realm as
we do when we have our out of bodies and

(01:14:52):
the near death. That's another overlap. They are in the
same dimension, that's that afterlife dimension between Earth and Haven,
the middle Croun.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
What other connections have you made in your research, Eugene,
that you'd like to share with us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
With the near death and the aliens.

Speaker 6 (01:15:13):
Yes, there all right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
There's a feeling of being taken or transported. Adupties report
being taken by aliens. Their death is often described being
drawn or guided somewhere. Ends often involved beings of light, angels,
deceased relatives. Abductions feature extraterrestrials often perceived as intelligent and
proposal beings, communication without words, the life review. Both experiences

(01:15:42):
sometimes involve a replay or reflection of one's life or
significant moments. There's a lot of altered days of consciousness.
Often both occur during altered mented states, trauma, slap hours,
extreme stress, or unconsciousness out of body experiences. In both
loss of time perception, vivid centurary details. Reports often include

(01:16:08):
extremely realistic visual sensations and emotions that feel more than
the real feelings of paralysis, profound emotional impacts after the experience,
and these often reflect religious or spiritual beliefs of the
person's culture. Abduction narratives frequently align with media portrayals and

(01:16:32):
cultural expectations about ET's memory distortions and then memory issues
which we've covered and I have a lot of info.
While I was going to talk about the silver cord
that keeps us the cont there here's consciousness. There are dualities, divisions,

(01:16:53):
laptist changes, deviations and transfers of consciousness. During both ND
and UF experiences, they talked about this, the dual nature
of man and the dual consciousness of man, and our
consciousness is actually triadic. It's a three way normal consciousness, subconsciousness,
and then super consciousness. The transfer of conscious interesting refers

(01:17:17):
to the idea that an individual's awareness identity yourself can
move from one state, body or a realm to another.
Its concept has It's worked across various domains, including near
death experiences, out of body experiences, spiritual traditions, and more recently,
speculative speculative science, and technology. And I talked about the

(01:17:38):
Here's some of the things we've found with the near
death research. Complete descriptions of every change in the physiology
of the invisible spirit body after death. The length of
tying between death and reconsciousness after death, complete medical description
of the death process. A life review room of drawings,
descriptions and measurements each change in one's levels of consciousness
in every stage and sequencer order. The origins and effects

(01:18:02):
of the white lights during the near death experience. The
critical role memory plays during and after the near death experience.
And so, yeah, still a lot of work to do,
but we're doing good. We're doing good.

Speaker 7 (01:18:15):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
We appreciate you sharing your research. It's been an honor
to call you my friend. Throughout the years, and I
wish you luck with your you know, getting this second
book out there and getting these ideas in to print.
It's your life of research, and I know it'll mean
a lot to actually have it out there for folks

(01:18:36):
to consume. So again, what's your website? How to folks
contact you? Eugene?

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
You can go to Eugene Braxton at wix dot com
or America's most Experienced Mystic at wix dot com, or
hit me up on Facebook or Instagram and I can
get a copy of the book to autograph copy and
we'll keep in content all right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Always a pleasure to talk to you. Best to you, Eugene,
take care.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Thanks Jeremy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
There is Eugene Braxton and his contact links are up
on the website. It's free to listen to all the
shows that we've done with him throughout the years, the
ones that we have access to. There were a few
in the hidden archives that got locked up forever, you know,
during that thing that happened down south for a couple
of years. I still don't have access to those shows.

(01:19:31):
Maybe somebody does, but nonetheless, we have all of our
archives that we've secured on our podcasts which are available
to listen to for free. I think the first episode
we did was back in twenty sixteen that we have
a recording of, so search as they say through the

(01:19:51):
podcast feeds for the previous episodes with Eugene, and I'm
sure that you will find it just as informative as
Night's conversation. So until we talk to you friends next time,
from the cold, dark depths of a secret dungeon somewhere
deep in the remote Pacific Northwest, I want to remind
you that if you have any contributions for our Halloween broadcast,

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even if that means you want to call in or
you want to send in a recording. Maybe it's of
you narrating a scary story, or you have an EVP
and you want to give me some history of where
you captured that and send along the recording. We'd love
to play that. We also have some original music that

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has been submitted from find musicians across the country, So
into the pairubnormal at gmail dot com. Yeah, it's free airtime,
So if you have cool music, it's Halloween related and
you'll give us the permission to play it on the
airwaves on the night before Halloween and on Halloween night,
when dead air takes over the air. Get a hold

(01:21:01):
of us at into the pair ofnormal at gmail dot com.
From the cold, dark tips of a secret dungeon somewhere
deep in the remote Pacific Northwest, I'm Jeremy Scott. Good night,
and God bless