Ep. #850: Dr. Scott Guerin – Awakening to Extraterrestrial Life

First contact with an extraterrestrial civilization has long captivated mankind and recent events are sparking renewed speculation about whether that moment could soon be upon us. Jeremy welcomes Dr. Scott Guerin to discuss the global awakening that is unfolding and what it might mean for humanity’s eventual open contact with alien life.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five four three two one.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
We interrupt our program to bring you this important message.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
A confirmed attack is taking place against the United States.
Aliens from an unknown location have been reported in multiple states.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
We are controlling transmission.

Speaker 5 (00:24):
There is another world that awaits, far beyond what we
can see and feel, a place that's anything but ordinary.
Would you believe.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I do not think.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Step into the song of the first time, know to
the most, take the conspiracies and cover into the pair
red not a weegogo with Charity Scoff.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
From the cold dark depths of a secret dungeon somewhere
deep in the remote Pacific Northwest. I am Jeremy Scott.
This is into the pair Ofbnormal, the program that is
somewhere between the pair of normal and the abnormal, which
means if you like the kinds of stuff that we
talk about, UFOs and extraterrestrials and of course Halloween Dead Air,

(01:28):
then this is exactly where you want to be. Just
make note when we're here and come gather with us
every night at this time as we blast out across
the USA. But no matter where you may be, you
can of course listen to the show free on any
of the podcast players if you have missed any part

(01:51):
of the program, that's a great way to catch up. Plus,
we have a lot of classic interviews on there that
have really stood the test of time over the years.
We would encourage you to check out into the Paranormal
on podcast. You'll find lots of programs. As we talk
about extraterrestrial life, about aliens, and I mean, why are

(02:13):
we fascinated with this kind of stuff? I mean, for me,
just generally these things are not like you and I,
and so we don't generally come in contact with such beings.
I mean, yeah, there are those who have been taken.

(02:33):
I haven't come in contact with any of these beings. Therefore,
I am personally fascinated and I want to know why
individuals are having these experiences, why they are being taken.
The thought of are we alone? And if not, what
other forms of life might exist? And how do they

(02:56):
compare to us? I mean, we're talking about some of
human amanity's oldest and probably deepest questions now, extraterrestrial beings.
The thought of that it really taps into our curiosity,
our imagination, our sense of wonder about the cosmos. I mean,

(03:18):
if you believe that there's something out there besides us, well,
you and me, we share that in common, and there's
a lot of us that share that in common here
because it really challenges our understanding and pushes the boundaries
of what we consider possible, which is something as we

(03:42):
gather each night, we push the boundaries. Yes, but we
will really want to think about what could be and
what else is out there, the possibility of discovering intelligent
beings elsewhere. I mean that really forces us to think

(04:07):
outside the box and to confront what it means to
be human and to rethink our place well in the
overall scheme of things. Now, recently there's been a couple
of things that have been happening you've probably heard about
on the internet that's going a buzz over whether first

(04:31):
contact is taking place. Last year around this time, there
was a lot of buzz about there's this imminent announcement
coming on. In fact, I remember doing a program literally
a year ago on this exact subject, imminent revelation of

(04:52):
extraterrestrial life. And yet as far as I know, a
year later, nothing has happened. But we can't help but
begin with three I atlas, which some are speculating could
be an alien probe based on its abnormalities and the
fact that these things don't come through often and it's
only the third interstellar visitor ever, and so those like

(05:16):
Avi Lobe and others have assumed, maybe not assumed, but
thrown out the possibility is probably more accurate way of
saying it that it possibly is not a comment and
that it could be something like an alien probe, extraterrestrial
or artificial technology. Now, three Eye Atlas is expected to

(05:41):
pass behind the Sun in just days under a week now.
In according to Professor Avi Lowe, that could be when
an attack from a potentially hostile alien threat could take place.
It is when what is largely believed to be a

(06:05):
comet has been hiding directly behind this sun. A scenario
like that, when it's completely out of view from Earth,
that something unusual could happen. According to Harvard professor Avi Loebe,
who we had on the program just a couple of
months ago after this object was discovered, to talk a
lot about his theory. So that's available out there. We

(06:28):
will see what happens. Next week could be an even
more exciting week than it already is becoming week of Halloween,
and maybe there is something that three I atlas does.
That makes the news TBD. As we say, stay tuned well.

(06:52):
Beings from far away in time and space that's in
quotation have reportedly communicated with us. Remember the mysterious metal
sphere that crashed in Columbia earlier this year. People were
claiming that this was evidence of first contact with extraterrestrials,

(07:15):
or at least speculating that it possibly could be. I
know there are certain people who have not actually been there,
touched it, had hands on her, eyes on, and are
making all sorts of claims. So there's that out there.
But a linguist says she has deciphered hieroglyphic symbols on

(07:37):
the sphere that deliver a warning from these beings, a
warning urging humanity to protect the planet from destruction and
an impending flood of biblical proportions. Scientists who have examined
this metallic sphere, which is the size of a football,

(08:00):
report that it is covered in unknown symbols, contains as
some fiber optic like wiring, a central chip, eighteen microspheres
encased in three layers of metal, and it has shown
some strange properties such as variable weight and non regrowth

(08:23):
of vegetation where it landed, but no radiation was detected.
The University of Georgia analyzed organic material from the sphere
and found that it dates back about twelve hundred five
twelve thousand, excuse me, five hundred and sixty years, and
that there is no evidence of human manufacturing. So have

(08:49):
aliens sent an object to Earth? Is the writing on
it from an extraterrestrial civilization? And is there a probe
that is coming towards Earth and is about ready to
go behind the Sun? An interstellar object that is visiting us?

(09:10):
Is this artificial technology? Is it extraterrestrial technology? And is
it about ready to attack us or make some sort
of appearance, some spectacle in the sky. All of this
is a playing out right now, and we're going to
talk about extraterrestrial life tonight on the program, looking forward

(09:32):
to doing so. Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
I'm Jeremy Scunn.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Into the pair of normal, Pair of normal.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
We are talking about extra terrestrial life on the program tonight,
Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal. I am Jeremy Scott.
As I mentioned that people are having an awakening that
is my opinion, but I think we have a lot
to back that up. Obviously if you look at some
of the polls, and you have to take those with

(10:33):
a grain of salt. But we are seeing an increasing
number of people who are at least open to the possibility.
I know there are a ton more guests who are
willing to come on the program and talk about this
than there ever were. People are more comfortable, experiencers are
coming forward, people who are researching this, even who are

(10:57):
involved in academia are feeling comfortable doing so that their
careers maybe aren't so much threatened as they could have
been before. So there is an awakening to this. And
speaking of an awakening, there is a new book out

(11:17):
called Awkward Awakenings Finding Our Way Home, and its author
is doctor Scott Garn, an award winning and best selling
author and educator with a passion for exploring the mysteries
of God, the universe, and the relationship with humanity. He
is our guest tonight. With two master's degrees and a
doctorate in human development. He has spent twenty three years

(11:39):
as an adjunct professor in psychology at Keen University. His
popular Angel in Training series highlights society's shift from organized
religion to spirituality, which is what we spent our first
episode with him, probably over a year ago, now discussing
his latest work, Awkward Awakening. Finding Our Way Home invites

(12:00):
readers to awaken to their divine nature and their galactic heritage.
Doctor Scott Aartt, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Welcome Jeremy. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
It is a pleasure. Yeah, when you were when we're
talking about angels last time, I was prodding you a
little bit if you remember about extraterrestrials, and you did
a good job of keeping me on point. I tend
to wander. But here we are now we're talking about
the extraterrestrials. How did we get here?

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah, well, I mean when we were developing the book,
you know, it was, you know, all about angels, and
Nicole and I at the time were discussing like, wow,
should we get into ets or not, and we felt,
you know, to keep the book under a thousand pages.
We figured we would just put that off. But for me,

(12:54):
the angels, and it's interesting Nicole had said that our
angel Michael once told her that angels were the gateway
drug to the spiritual world that once we get comfortable
and establish robust relationships with our spirit team with angels,

(13:15):
then things start opening up. And that's what we're That's
what happened to me is that you know, things started
opening up into into other dimensions. And then once you
start getting into other dimensions, that's when you naturally go
to other planets, other civilizations, other interdimensional beings. So that's

(13:38):
the kind of it was like a natural path, you know, for.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Me, right, and so you believe that there are a
variety of different kinds of beings that humans are interacting with.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
Yeah, well, so the thing was in the angel book,
it was kind of spelled out. I mean what in
the research that I looked up and read about and
the Sacred Text, we have some sort of the you know,
God or being creating the universe.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
And when you know in.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
The Sacred Text they have well, God created man, mankind
and humanity, and then he created or it created the
Angelic realm, which is a separate species in a sense
of humans. They're you know, never incarnated, they're more direct
connection to God.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
To source.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
And then when you think about it, that the universe
is very large, every other being and certainly. The Behigh
Faith also states this that they just say, yeah, there's
other beings and other planets and other galaxies, so you
can say, okay, there's a possibility of other type of life,

(14:50):
you know, life forms out there. But the thing that
really got me was our multi dimensional nature, you know,
and when you start really looking into humans and our
situation here, we're in a physical three D box, right,
we have you know, height, with in depth and time.
You know, the science hard science puts that forth dimension

(15:13):
as time. But when you go beyond these three and
four dimensions, uh, then things start getting a little kind
of crazy. You know, we're going outside of the our
very limited sensus of hearing and sight, sound, and then
we start looking at vibrational aspects of energy. Then you

(15:35):
start looking at that, you know, is our mind just
contained in our brain?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (15:41):
You know?

Speaker 6 (15:41):
If it isn't, then that brain that opens up a
whole world of uh, in worlds of possibilities of you know,
who we really are. And that's what I started getting
into in the first half of this book, Awkward Awakening,
was finding out who we really are and saying and
kind of mapping out that we are multi dimensional beings

(16:05):
and this is one stop and then obviously we are connected,
not obviously, but that we are connected all in one.
That's coming out in science now. Schrodinger said that the
number of minds in the universe is one, and that
oneness the consciousness. You'll start hearing that more and more,

(16:26):
that we're all connected to it open, you know, into
one overriding consciousness. Now some people say, you know, is
it a simulation this and that. But when humans start
opening up who we are and understanding that we're more
than just our physical reality, that's when the idea of

(16:49):
other beings and certainly other planets and civilizations can exist.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
So humans as multi dimensional beings would have the ability
to then travel to these different dimensions.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Eventually, you know.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
So that's the thing is that we can and I
call it pierced the veil, you know, in many different ways.
Then the more the most tangible examples of this is
the near death experience accounts, like you know, over fifty
years of research and thirty five hundred or four thousand
cases people you know who've left their bodies and gone outside, uh,

(17:28):
you know, floating around seeing things outside of you know,
the building of the hospital, wherever they are kind of
shows that we are, you know, able to move outside
of that. But and I call that consciousness. Two point
zero is when we start being able to direct our
consciousness to one interact with our physical world and make

(17:54):
physical changes. And then two, when we get into the
point where our consciousness can and can transcend this this
physical reality to others. That's when we're going to need
some help in learning how to do that. And when
you look at the dozens and dozens of channelers that
have been doing this for twenty thirty, forty fifty years,

(18:18):
you'll start to get a consensus that we will be
able to transcend you know, this space and time, and
in addition to that, maybe make ships that can travel,
you know, into other galaxies, surpass the speed of.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Light in a variety of ways.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
And all of that has to do with interaction with
our consciousness and the physical world. So yeah, there is
going to be a blending of that of and a
maturing of our conscious mind that will be able to
take take our to humanity into places places has never

(19:06):
been before.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
All right, we will pause and continue with our guest tonight,
Doctor Scott Garren, author of Awkward Awakening, finding our way
home his website Awkward Awakening dot com. I'm Jeremy Scott,
somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal into the Pair
of Normal will continue in just a couple of moments.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
Pair Ofnormal News. I'm George Henry. Earth has a new
companion in space. Astronomers from the University of Hawaii have
discovered a small quasi moon, officially named twenty twenty five
PN seven that's traveling alongside our planet and the Moon.
First detected this past summer, the object is estimated to

(20:13):
be about the size of a small building. Unlike our
actual Moon, it isn't bound by Earth's gravity. Instead, it
orbits the Sun on a path that closely matches Earth's,
making it appear as though it's following us through space.
Scientists say twenty twenty five P seven has been near
Earth for about sixty years and will likely remain until

(20:35):
twenty eighty three before drifting away. Only eight quasi moons
are known to exist, making this a rare and exciting find.
Researchers say studying them could reveal more about how small
objects move through the Solar System and even help plan
future space missions. Here pair ofbnormal News every hour un

(20:57):
into the pair abnormal. We're not alone in this universe,
and there is an alien presence that.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Interacts with Earth life.

Speaker 9 (21:16):
There's at least seventy different species and probably more. But yes,
as odd as it sounds, there are a little green
men that's not the ones we usually see, though. We
see the little gray ones. They're about four and a
half feet tall. And we see the ones that are
called the Nordics, and they're about seven feet tall.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
And there's this grove being and they all look alight
and they have the long arms and the big heads
and the black eyes.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
We're definitely not alone, bordering the lines between reality and
the unknown. You're writing into the pair of normal.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I'm Jeremy Scott. We're talking with the doctor Scott Gharan tonight.
Extra terrestrial life? Is it something that really does exist?
I mean, we've thought about are we alone for so
many decades now, and it does seem like more people

(22:22):
are awakening to this. In the name of a Doctor
Garren's book, Awkward Awakening, it can sometimes be awkward, can't
having these conversations with the close friends and family members?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Right?

Speaker 9 (22:38):
No?

Speaker 6 (22:39):
Absolutely, I mean I got the side eye. You know
about angels from some people you talk about ets, we're
kind of bumping it up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I mean what we're people saying like, come on, you're
pulling my leg.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Well, that's it.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
I'll just well the one of the famous responses talking
about angels, A friend of mine says, I don't believe
in angels. They can't be scientifically validated that they exist.
And I knew that he was a Catholic and a
devour Catholic. And I said, it's interesting, you want scientific
validation on angels, but you accept the virgin birth, the resurrection,

(23:19):
and life and for again it's the sins. And he
just gave me. You just blinked at me, you know,
no comment response. So then my point is, and it
is a good friend of mine, My point is that
we all decide what we've done, what we choose to believe,
you know, in whether we want to you know, keep
things at arm's length and say no, it's not scientifically validated,

(23:41):
or just believe it because we raised it, were raised
up that way, or or just want to you know,
just want to choose to believe something is true.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, people have their own biases and what they will
accept is their own reality. They may treat with less
or more skepticism than similar subjects. And you know we
we all have them as long as we're aware of them.
In fact, though, if you ever go to jury duty,
they now play the video for you about your conscious bias.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Where we are we are biased towards our own reality,
even if we are not aware of that. Uh right,
So the paint a picture. What do you think this
reality is that involves humans and aliens interacting?

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Well, the big thing is and that's and that's part
of the awakening, the two part awkward awakening. I kind
of I was given. I was given this book. I
you know, I can't say that and any other thing
I've written, but in an a kashak Record meeting the.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Download experience or something like that.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Well, what is so?

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Right before I started writing it, I had a an
akashak Record reading and she said, you're going to write
a book and it's going to help people understand who
they are and it's going to introduce them to the
galactic world. And I had no idea what she was saying.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Like I knew, you know, you get this information in
from a higher source.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yeah, well, I mean it sounds weird, but I would
say yes because now I know I've done an experienced
automatic writing at times where you know I'm writing and
then you know, you know, I kind of flash, you
blink away and a paragraph will be there.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Right, That's one thing.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
But and then there are people who dictate they know
they're dictating words from another source.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
And you know, outside of themselves.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
This was really kind of given to me through ideas
through three in the morning, you know, I just start
getting paragraphs, you know, and outlines of you know this,
this is what this chapter should be, this is what
the other chapter would be, and so I just kind
of went with it. And then all of a sudden

(26:04):
I had, you know, fourteen fifteen chapters and even now
I look back at it and I go like, wow, wow,
this is pretty good stuff, Like where did it come from?
And so I was cognitively involved with the making of it.
But I would say that the ideas where to go,
sources that you know, popped up on my searches, individuals

(26:28):
that I never knew before, like say, Dolores Cannon came
up and her work with and hypnosis, you know, and
past life regression you know, books and books that she's
written just kind of came to me, so like everything
was kind of given to me and then I you know,
obviously wrote it down that way, but so that was

(26:49):
my how it.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Worked for me.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
And so what the message is that once we as
enough percentage of the people on the planet elevate our
vibration and learn to move towards love and light and
unity and make connections with our spirit teams and God

(27:15):
and source. That's when the ets have been waiting for that,
for that to happen. And that's how and it's coming
closer and closer, and what's happening and what's going to
happen on a more what people call the first contact.
It's not the first contact because ets have been around

(27:36):
our planet for millennium. But the first contact will be
open contact, which they'll make themselves aware of who they are.
It'll be open commerce, it'll be information exchanged, they'll teach
us more about space travel. All that stuff is going

(27:56):
to come. But they've been waiting for us to get
our act together. Uh, in a lot of different ways. Bashar,
which you probably know of, right, one quote I love
about him, He said that why would we want to,
he said, I'm joking. We're joking a little bit, and
we don't mean to be judgmental, but why would we

(28:18):
want to land our ships in an insane asylum where
everyone has guns, you know, and so they're waiting for
us to kind of grow up and become more unified,
maybe stop maybe stop fighting and killing each other. And
that's when it's going to happen. Uh as far as overall.
But in the meantime, the contact with individuals has been

(28:42):
coming more more often, as you probably have heard about,
you know, from your guests and things like that.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Sure, individuals waiting with guns who might want to shoot
one of these beings if they landed on a spacecraft
and crashed on a farm I don't know, near Roswell
or some of your location, especially these days, you never
know what will happen. Are we gonna pause here? Doctor
Scott Garon is our guest. I'm Jeremy Scott. Somewhere between

(29:11):
the paranormal and the abnormal. We shall continue in just
a couple of.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
Moments into the pair of normal.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Pair of.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I'm Jeremy Scott, somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
With the actor Scott garn tonight's his website Awkward Awakening
dot com in his book Awkward Awakening Finding Our Way Home.
So you believe that we are closer and closer to
this open contact scenario.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah, I believe so, uh.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
And what it might have. It may not be one
big event in the near future that might be awful
little bit, but we certainly are becoming in contact with
ets uh individually, and some people say that's part of
the ascension process. You know, humanity is ascending into the
fifth dimension and as a result, you know, we're getting

(30:44):
more contact with not only people are becoming more aware
of their psychic senses, they're you know, they're getting in
touch with their past loved ones, their you know, their
spiritual senses are are sharpening. And along with that comes
interaction with ets and what some of the authors like

(31:07):
Lisa roll Holt and Bashar and Barbara Hanklow, a lot
of the things that that common things that they say
is that h E T contact, especially visual and physical,
those types of encounters UH, people are prepared for in advance,

(31:30):
either before this life that they're going to have this
experience in their life or maybe in this life they'll
be contacted and prepped at their subconscious and unconscious levels,
and that that's you know, that's what they are pointing to,
and that many people will start to realize that their dreams,

(31:53):
that their dreams that seem very strange to them and
doesn't make sense, rather than discard them, to try and
think and ask like what was that dream about? You'll
start getting more and more clarity on how connections are
being made now with many, many.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
More individuals than have had you know, have been in
the past.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
So do you have any special skills, I mean in
which to receive this information or have you kind of
honed these skills?

Speaker 6 (32:25):
Well, the first thing is and Lissa Roholt brought up
a scenario where they said that, well, she was channeling
a plating female fifth dimention female Sasha, and the analogy
came through where the Sasha said, Look, put yourself in

(32:45):
a suppose you're in a meeting and someone's giving a
speech up front of the room. If you're in the
back of the room, you're going to see just their
head and you're going to hear them, but you can
see just their head. If you're sitting in the middle
of the room, you might see more of their torso
their arms may see them their arms pointing or moving
a certain way. And if you're sitting in the front row,

(33:06):
you can see their legs moving, you see if their
legs are crossed either way. The more you see of
that person, uh, the more information you'll get. And Sasha
pointed out that we have three levels of consciousness. We
have the awakened state, the subconscious state or the yeah,
the subconscious state, which is like dreaming, you know, kind

(33:29):
of not really sleeping but semi awake, and then unconscious,
And she said that the ets can see all of
those levels of consciousness at the same time. So people
who are humans who are struggling within themselves, have a
lot of emotional conflict, have a lot of emotional pain

(33:53):
that they may may know about or may not know
about because they've buried it in their subconscious and unconscious,
are having a difficult time in interacting with an ET
because when an ET looks at them, they see this disjointed,
you know, kind of mix of emotions and thoughts and

(34:15):
those types of things. So when a person really does
and here's the thing that I found fascinating, does their
shadow work and kind of makes their my heart and
mind and subconscious minds all in line and accept every
aspect of themselves. That cohesion makes it easier for interaction

(34:40):
with ets because they already know in a sense what
we're thinking and feeling on all levels. And so I
think that's part of what's happening during this awakening process,
is that people are becoming aware that there are other
levels of just going out and shaking hand with an ET,

(35:02):
because you know, to me, that's probably less than ten
percent of the interactions that we're having right now is
the physical.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
The bulk of.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
The interaction is happening at the subconscious and unconscious level,
and that's that's what's good. That's what's exciting about this
awakening process.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
What people are perceiving even those non physical experiences to
be just as real.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Right, Yes, that's the thing is like most people would say, like, uh,
you know, I had a bad dream. It was about
this guy in my room or what, you know whatever,
maybe and they just it's a dream.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
It wasn't real. But that's the thing.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
These dreams, you know a lot of dreams are just
you know, you know, recollections of the day or you know,
you know something you're stressed, out about, but other parts
of other dreams are really worth paying attention to. And
that's what is is going to happen more and more
so once we open ourselves up to that, that's the

(36:02):
first step in connection. And a number of authors that
talk about ET interaction say that the first step in
contacting and connecting with ets starts within yourself and you
have to be prepared for yourself in order for that

(36:22):
to happen.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
So, have you connected with a specific group species however,
we'd like to refer to them of ets.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, so this is.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
The one thing that you know, my friends and my family,
you know, just kind of like you know, you.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Know, Okay, this is a here.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, so thank you, thank you.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
So a while back, I was listening to a witch,
a wicked was on a podcast and she was saying
about scrying. She introduced me to scrying and what scrying is.
If you don't know, it's a it's a devination tool.
You know that I was rejected obviously by all, you know,
organized religions, but it's a way to interact with the

(37:07):
spirit world. And what it is you take a mirror
in the darkened room and face it towards yourself. It
could be large, small, or whatever, as long as you
can see your face and you light a candle and
you gaze into your eye, your own eyes, and you
just sit there and wait and say, please, you know,
contact me, or you know, what do you need me to,
what do you want me to hear today, whatever it

(37:29):
may be, and then you just start writing. You'll get
an urge to write. And so I started doing that,
and I was writing and writing, and I realized that
these thoughts were not coming from me, you know, And
it wasn't automatic. It wasn't moving my hand like some
automatic writing does. It was just these thoughts coming in

(37:50):
and I was writing them down. So I was doing
that for weeks and it was all very positive.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
It was all.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
About I was on the early parts of my book
and they were saying, I say, they, but I don't
know if it's that. I think it's they multiples. But
they're saying, you know, we're guarding you, we're helping you.
All very positive. And then I'm like, after about three weeks,
I was like, who is this? I could I could

(38:16):
never ask questions back. It was all just one sided
coming through me. And but during the day I was like.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
I wonder who these are, I wonder what you know,
what is it?

Speaker 6 (38:26):
And at the end of one kind of writing session,
it just said we are the Palladians and that was it.
So that is my that is my connection. And I
asked a couple of friends of mine who are very
in tune and connected with ETS, and they said, of course,
you know, don't you know, own it? Own it, Scott.

(38:46):
You know you're you're having this experience, you feel right
about it, it feels good, it's positive. You always have
to have discernment on these things and interactions. But if
it feels good, of light of love, and there's no
other explanation, then yeah, you know, just own it. So
that's my That's has been my connection with that. And

(39:08):
then in addition to dreams, you know, just dreams, I'm
sitting in a room with three or four other beings
and it's almost like a working session. It's weird like that,
like they're saying, well, we get the book, you know,
we'll get a paperback done. Now we'll do audiobook first
because that'll be quicker to get out. You know. It's

(39:30):
just strange things like that.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
That I know are you know, is outside of myself.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Interesting. We will pause because we are at the end
of the hour and we'll come back to spend some
more time in the next hour with doctor Scott garon tonight.
Awkward Awakening. Finding Our Way Home is the name of
his new book, which is out now, as they say,
wherever you search for books, and we've got to link
up to that on our website at Pairabnormal radio dot com.

(40:01):
I wanna come somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
I'm char of Discott.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Shure your support into the Pair of Normal by buying
from the Pair of Normal store at Paironormal radio dot com.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
There's a parallel universe.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
Fail their separation.

Speaker 10 (40:41):
Will we perceived true reality.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Of the King?

Speaker 10 (40:49):
Let the truth be known. It stalled mister w into
the Pair of into the pave.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Pair Ofbnormal. It's part par oformal and part abnormal. There's
nothing ordinary about what's on your speakers. Into the Pair
Ofnormal with Jeremy Scott. I think we're most fascinated.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
With the extraterrestrials because of number one, their appearance and
how we perceive them to be technologically advanced, right their weaponry,
their spacecraft, the abilities that they have to communicate telepathically.
I mean, they don't talk physically. You're not hearing speech.

(42:04):
Any communication has done, you know, mind to mind. And
so having said all that, that's abnormal, that's not ordinary.
And it is fascinating to think if there is this
other race of a species out there that is, you know,

(42:29):
existing somewhere and interacting with us. And if that is
the case, how long have they been interacting with us?
Our guest tonight, doctor Scott Garrin, has been interacting with
a group of extraterrestrials, the Palladians, well known species of extraterrestrials,

(42:50):
in some famous UFO encounters, including the Billy Meyer case,
but also others.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Right, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 6 (42:59):
And the one thing I address in the book about
the awkwardness of things and in this material is that
we have to look at sources of information.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Where do we get our information from?

Speaker 9 (43:12):
You know?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (43:13):
And the big the big shift is scientific materialism, Like
does everything have to be in a laboratory and under
a microscope?

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Hope, you know, for us to say, yeah, this is real.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
Now there are you know, the well, the religions, you know,
the world's religions have been channeling information you know, they
may not use that word, but you have the the
apostle Paul wrote half the New Testament. And where did
he say it came from? He says it was inspired
by God. It was God breathed. So, you know, my
thing is to say, you know, there's sources of information

(43:46):
that are outside of our physical means and our physical
verification processes that that we need to at least consider
and and look at. You know, you may pick it
up and look at it and put it down, but
in any case, let's look at that. So and that's

(44:07):
what I was amazed at. There's literally dozens of people
who have been writing and speaking about archalactic neighbors in
great detail. I mentioned Lisa Royal Holt, Barbara Hancloud, we
have a ton.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Of other people that have been writing.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
And when you start reading through what they say, then
you'll find out the history of the of the humanoid forms,
you know, and originally came from Lira, and then they
were scattered around the universe. And some say they came
to the Earth first. Some say they went to the
Pleiades and then came back. But you know, there's you know,

(44:51):
many many civilizations in this vast universe of ours, and
they they are there so far advanced and mainly mature,
you know, you know, we I look at the examples
of I was watching this show on TV about the
Midwest and the you know, seventeen hundreds where people were,

(45:15):
you know, slogging around in the mud with horse drawn
carriages and this and that. And I suppose you take
that a family back then and then drop them into
modern day Times Square in New York City, right, they
would freak them out right, all though the lights and
the cars and all that, and even in that you

(45:37):
still have people that look basically the same. But what
would happen if you could, you know, fast forward one
hundred million years, which is many of these sources put
that out even a billion years, the physical characteristics, the emotional, mental,
sociological characteristics advance beyond our wildest imaginations, you know, because

(46:03):
certainly it's outside of our three dimensional box you know
that we have to play in right now.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
So that's the thing, is that.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
The big thing that we have to remember is to
stop projecting how we view the world onto them.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Right, We're not like them. They have so much ahead
of us that that's.

Speaker 6 (46:28):
Probably why we they haven't been openly interacting with us
for the three hundred thousand years that humans have been
on the earth, because they that we know of yes, yes,
so uh, that's it that they're they're letting us go.
They're letting us develop on our own, and at some

(46:50):
point in time, when when they think that we can
handle it, that's when the open communication will happen, you know,
on a broader scale. But right now it's more individual
and maybe that's in preparation for a broader, you know,
open interaction. So when some ship does appear somewhere and
announcements are made, we don't we don't freak out because

(47:15):
people like me and I'm not. You know, there's thousands
of people writing talking about it. You get that out there,
then it won't be as dramatic and as frightful when
the when that reality does come into play.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Have the Palladian specifically, but others said that they have
tried to contact mankind. I mean, whether it's sending a
pro but crashing a spacecraft, a metallic object that doesn't
appear to be from here, that falls from the sky.
I mean, there's a variety of ways this could this
could happen. I suppose they're not trying to communicate with

(47:56):
us over radio telescope such like SETI has been trying
to find signals through. But anything to say about that, well,
I mean.

Speaker 6 (48:05):
That that's what you what's been coming out, and that's
why I think is happening. Another aspect that's happening now
is that the uaes you know and UFOs will start
creeping into our you know, every day not every day life,
more and more visible in our you know, our society.
And one big thing with that is the whistle blowers

(48:27):
that are coming through, you know, starting with you know,
Stephen Gresh, you know, was the first whistle blower that
was working for the military that he was being harassed
and his his career was being derailed because he kept saying, hey,
you know, he was part of the crash retrieval program

(48:49):
for like ten years and then went to.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Sites and looked at pieces of ships.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
That were not made from you know, on this earth,
and I believe he found some non human biologics as well.
But he said, hey, Congress needs she was correct, Yeah, David, yes,
and so uh he you know, he came out and
they put it out there, and then just this past September, ninth.

(49:17):
I think it was another three ex military people came
and testified and said, yeah, you know we're harassed. We
have we know, we saw things, we reported it and
we were told to not mention it at all. And
so either way, you know, they have their stories out there.
So you have the tangible you know, crashed vehicles in

(49:41):
uh that are being picked up now. But as far
as other things, specific things, uh, you know, there's thousands
of you know, stories and on YouTube and the special
you know, ancient alien.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Channels and this and that.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Did the Pladian say, you know we've sent a signal,
We've sent to probe or anything of that kind, Neil,
not that I know of.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
No.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
All right, all right, fantastic more to come, Doctor Scott
Garry our guest tonight, as we've got to take a
break somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal. I'm Jeremy Scott.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Into the paradormal.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I'm Jeremy Scott, somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal. Interesting,
we have the three I Atlas that is supposed to
disappear behind this sun actually next week week of Halloween.
Interesting timing with that, and will it be an attack ship.

(51:06):
Is this an alien probe that is coming through our
solar system? We know it's an interstellar visitor. It could
be a comment. It could also be an extraterrestrial craft
of some sort. And if it were to make an appearance,
I guess the time to do it would be, oh,

(51:28):
once it comes out the other side. So stay tuned,
as we say, talking with doctor Scott garn tonight, Awkward Awakening.
Finding Our Way Home is his newest book. He's an
award winning best selling author and educator, has a master's
degrees and a doctorate in human development, and has spent

(51:50):
twenty three years as adjunct professor in psychology at Keene University.
You may remember him from his Angel and Training series,
but he's now talking about extra terrestrial life and the
title of your subtitle of your book, Finding Our Way Home.
So where is home?

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Yeah? Well, home is one place and that is a source.
That is God, that is all that is.

Speaker 6 (52:18):
That is the initial thought, the initial dimension, you know,
before anything was created. And so you know when you
look at dimensional models and a lot of people put
I mean outside of the physical and you know the
physics models of dimensions to get the spiritual models you

(52:39):
have you have a.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Beginning, and that beginning is source.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
Mattias de Stefano, a young philosopher, was saying that the
first dimension is the I am that contained no thought,
no light, nothing except feeling, and the universe was created
when that thought said what else can I become? And

(53:07):
at that moment that's when everything went in, you know, became,
you know, was created. Was that what else can I become?
And then as a result of that, you know, we
are all part of that oneness, you know that what
else can I become? That means that we're part of that,

(53:27):
and it's been picked up in many religions, but it's.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Kind of buried.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
They kind of bury the lead and religions, I think
because you can once you look, you look into several
of the well the four main religions on the planet,
and they all relate to oneness, that we're all part
of God in one way or another. And then, as
I mentioned before, science is coming around, as it usually does,

(53:51):
it follows reality sometimes by you know, millennia, but you know,
science is coming around to saying, yeah, consciousness, maybe there
is one overall consciousness that we're all a part of.
And so my premise is that that is home. You know,
that is home. Once we realize that we are part

(54:11):
of everything, we're a hologram, you know, just like if
you take a picture of a flower and rip it
up to one hundred pieces, a hologram would take.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Any piece and have the whole image of the flower
on it.

Speaker 6 (54:24):
And it's that type of concept that we are coming
into understanding and and that's the that's the point, is
that we're all home. We're just living, you know, as
the famous you know statement, we're all eternal beings living
a temporary physical life. You know, that is a that

(54:46):
is a big awakening right there, and then that is home.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
So are aliens spiritual beings.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
They're as spiritual as we are.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
You know.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
There are some alien races like the assassin I the
where Bashar comes from. That is a non physical uh civilization.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
And the Lerens. I think that transition from physical to
nonficial physical.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
So and then we are as I mentioned, And I
have a chapter called Piercing the Veil where we can
where people experience the non physical part of themselves, like
and the near death experiences and such that kind of
hopefully opens people's eyes to say, yeah, I am more
than just a physical being. There are other states of

(55:36):
being and there are and as a result, there are
other civilizations that are physical and time bound. There are
some that are quasi physical, and uh, there are some.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
That are non physical.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
So yeah, it's a as as Dolores Cannon's five volume
book uh that called the Convoluted Universe. There's a whole
mix of things out there and states of being, and
it all relates back to the one consistent thing with
individuals is a consciousness and an awareness of self and

(56:13):
whether it's incarnating here you know, in this planet, but
your name and you know, in your life and all
this stuff. But once we're gone, once we leave this place,
maybe we'll come back. Maybe we'll maybe we'll not. Maybe
we'll stay as a physical being a part of consciousness
until you know, the next time or next uh you know, uh,

(56:35):
next place we want to become.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
And then eventually all all life. I believe all life is.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
Going to revert back to the oneness, you know, just
like the drop of water going back into the ocean
that we that is what we'll all experience. But in reality,
we've never really left that. We're just expressions of God
in a temporary lifetime or thousands of lifetimes until we

(57:05):
are called or decide to go back and start another
soul journey in another scenario.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
So then it's possible for us to coexist with them.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Absolutely what with ets, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
So that's the thing is that when you read these
dozens and dozens of authors, many consistent themes come up.
And one of the themes are that that, uh, that
many of the civilizations, that the vast majority of them, are.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Benevolent and are looking to help us and have helped
us in the past. You know, the.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
Palladians, Illyriums, the Syrians have all been involved with planet
Earth to help us in our journey of maturity as
far as beings and so to coexist in one sense
of that we already are. You know, some people say
you can train yourself to look for precursors where it's

(58:10):
our you know, ets in physical form, and you can
kind of set yourself up and and and some and
once you once you know you're looking for them, they
know you're looking for them, and they can catch a
glance at some some someone that will kind of be
the wink that you know, yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
But as far as co exist.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
Some people say that that's where the Earth is going
to go into the next phase because we need to
obviously learn how to get along and how to manage
resources that we are now. We have so many people
with you know, we we have so many resources that
would that enable everyone on this planet to have you know, food, housing, health,

(58:56):
and do what they want. But the bulk of the
of resources money are tied up into the hands of
a few. So I would think that as we mature
as a civilization on planet Earth, we're going to need
some help in making that happen.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
All right, So how can we, I guess, prepare for
this impending if we want to call it interaction with extraterrestrials?

Speaker 4 (59:29):
Well, number one thing is to learn out to meditate.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
If you want to like that word, check out other
words something, do something to help yourself, get your mind
out of the noise and the background you know, certainly
arguments and all the negative things that are going on.
You know, spend time in nature, Spend time thinking about

(59:53):
positive things, gratitude, love, look for those things in your life.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
And then if you have you know, meditative states and practice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Am I in a meeting point right for open contact,
like a set point where we're going to meet. More
to come. Doctor Scott gearing with us tonight, somewhere between
the paranormal and the abnormal. I'm Jeremy Scott.

Speaker 8 (01:00:27):
Pair abnormal news. I'm George Henry. In a rare opportunity
for science, astronomers say two spacecraft could soon pass through
the tale of interstellar comet three I Atlas as it
travels through the Solar System. While it may have a
long ion tail stretching hundreds of thousands of miles, we

(01:00:47):
haven't seen it directly. New research suggests that NASA's Europa
Clipper and the European Space Agencies hair of spacecraft could
cross its path in the coming weeks. Clipper will have
the best chance to detect particles in plasma with its
instruments on board if conditions are right between October thirtieth

(01:01:07):
and November sixth. Scientists say this could be the first
chance to sample material from an interstellar object's tale. But
if it doesn't happen due to the government's shutdown, the
ESA's Juice Mission plans to observe the comet next month.
Here a pair of noormal news every hour on into
the pair ofnormal.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
Are we alone?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Are we alone?

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
Are we alone?

Speaker 7 (01:01:47):
Are?

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Are we alone?

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
You're traveling at the speed of light into them air,
abnormal air.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
We have to prepare ourselves for what one day may come,
call it an awakening. Extraterrestrial life could one day present
itself to us. I mentioned that we would need a
meeting point. There's actually folks who are trying to build

(01:02:29):
an embassy, and that would be the Alliance for Extraterrestrial
Diplomatic Contact. You can go to Alliance for et dot org.
I have supported the organization for several years now in
a variety of ways. You may hear those announcements that

(01:02:50):
come from time to time. Basically, it is a shared
thought that if we were to have this open contact,
need someplace in which to basically have the meeting between
humans and extra terrestrials and ambassadors from from either side,

(01:03:14):
because it would be a shock if they just you know,
came down in public. We would need a private meeting
space and this would eventually lead to, from what I understand,
an open market where humans and extra terrestrials could trade
goods back and forth. Talking with Scott Garrin again, the

(01:03:36):
preparation is key here.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
Yeah, absolutely, and I love that idea that you know, look,
you know, and I'll definitely look up that organization. But yeah,
at some point, I think, and then maybe not too
distant future, we will have that open contact and interaction
and a place. You know, certainly, personally, I would believe
no government should be involved with that. It should be

(01:04:02):
something outside of any existing government. But yeah, having that
as a designated place and area for people to come
together because we still are in the three dimensional we're
still three dimensional beings and we need to have a place.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
So I think that's a great idea. The other thing
I get kind of frustrated with people who.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
They go, oh, you know Atlas, Oh it's a military thing,
it's heading to destroy us or whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
It reminds me of like in the sixteenth century, fifteenth
century people look up and they'd see a comet and
they'd like, oh, that's it. It's the end of the world.
And the bottom line is that fear is embedded in
our DNA. There's fear everywhere, Fear in our government, pedals,
you know, religion certainly. You know, we use fear and

(01:04:51):
experience fear in so many ways that we have to
remember that whatever comes our way.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
They are created being.

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
They're a part of God, part of Divine, part of Source,
just as we are. They may be one hundred million
years older, they may have the advanced technology that we
never dreamed of, but we are, we are sovereign entities
as they are, and that we can be brave, we
can make a stand and say like, okay, let's greet them.

(01:05:22):
Let's be open minded and address the fears in our
own minds and hearts and souls that we may not
even know about that come popping up when we think
of the unknown or the unusual, or something somebody that's
different than us.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
You know, why do be afraid of it?

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
Especially when they haven't attacked us, you know, like so
many people say they could have, by the way, if
they wanted to, they could have wiped out our planet,
you know, five ten, fifteen thousand years ago. So we
know that they're mostly benevolent. You know, there are bad actors,
and you know, that's all another discussion. And there are

(01:06:03):
governing bodies of ets and civilizations. The Galactic Federation is
one that you know is very is more popular, but
there are other entities like that, and there is a
there is a system of protection around us, not only
individually from our spirit team. There are archangels in e

(01:06:29):
T and other planets. They act in the same way.
They are direct extensions from the source. And if you
ever run into something that you're afraid of and et
citing whatever, pray, pray to whoever you pray to God,
to Jesus, to Yahweh to h to protect you, and
that will happen. So I say there's no need to

(01:06:52):
fear except the fear within ourselves, and that that's a
big difference.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
There be rules for this contact, you know, that we
would have to follow and they would have to follow,
you know, just so things don't get out of hand.

Speaker 6 (01:07:10):
Yeah, yeah, I would believe, you know, I think there's
definitely protocol, you know, just to be organized and that have.
You know, people have been on the same page with
with communication and steps and because when you're thinking of
interaction like that, you're I think it might be hinting
at a governance, you know, a new governance that might
be introduced to this planet, aside from any other model

(01:07:34):
of governance that we've seen in government models. But I
think that that could be and I've just been thinking
about this idea recently and been talking with people about
it that it could be an interaction at that point
where ets and us will we will be in charge
of managing the planet, but we will get assistance from

(01:07:58):
ets because they've done this to planets like us hundreds
and hundreds of times. They know our struggle, they've been
through it themselves, and so they can help our planet
get through our polarities, our divisiveness, our fears and start
working together. So in a situation where it's open, we

(01:08:23):
have things to learn and they have things to teach us,
and I think we can. I just say, we got
to alleviate our fears about this and be open minded,
not just think that anything that's different from.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Us is bad.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
And you mentioned earlier, so we'll circle back to that.
The open market that would eventually come as a result
of this. I can imagine a scenario in which aliens
and humans would come together to exchange goods and talk
shop and other things like that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
Yeah, I've read, got who the author was, But they
were saying like, yeah, you know, we can get you know,
you make something like yeah, let's go, let's go sell
this on you know, another planet.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
You know, they really like this style of woodwork that
I do.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
I mean it could be something as maintain as that,
but there could be also uh, transportation and ways to
you know, health and drugs and uh, you know, all
kinds of things that are out there. And then we
have things of value to them, resources and our own

(01:09:33):
backgrounds that have caused us to make, you know, tremendous
advancements in technology and things. So you know, that's the
thing is to say, like, just because something is unusual
and somebody may look like you know, a gray or
you know, uh, you know, or you know, any other
type of you know, or even reptilian, that doesn't mean

(01:09:56):
that they're you know, their enemies and they're gonna kill
us chance they get all.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Right, we're gonna come. We have to wrap up our
conversation next with doctor Scott Garren somewhere between the Paranormal
and the Abnormal Awkward Awakening dot Com his website.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
We'll be right back into the paradormal parent.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Yeah, this is a wacky stuff. We're talking about a
governing body for open contact between human and extraterrestrials, a
marketplace of sorts. I mean, where else are we gonna
have these conversations than there right here, somewhere between the
paranormal and the abnormal. I'm Jeremy Scott Paraanormal Radio dot com.

(01:10:52):
Our website, all of the podcast episodes, all of the
episodes are up there free for you to listen to.

Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
So, I mean, final segment here, Doctor Garren, anything else
that you'd like to share with the audience here before
we wrap it up.

Speaker 9 (01:11:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
I think the biggest thing is I just mentioned, you know,
our fears will we'll do us in, you know if
we don't, and they have. Our fears have made a
mess of this planet and interacting with one another, other countries.

Speaker 7 (01:11:29):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
And that we need to move beyond that. We need
to mature and be open to other things. Focus on
the light that love, the of servers to others.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
It is a thing, you know, it is a It
is a goal to have and that's what the unit,
that's what the bulk of the universe is focused on.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
So maybe we can learn that. So, yeah, no need
to fear.

Speaker 6 (01:11:54):
Keep an open mind, even if you don't have to
believe it, you could just check it out with an
open mind. Check out some of these concepts that we've
been talking about. And I think the future is very bright.
But even though it doesn't look like it now, this
is the storm before the calm, and we're we're looking
at a new age coming into play, New Earth, all

(01:12:15):
all those things that you hear about. That's where I
believe it's really happening in the not too distant future.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
All right, what is the importance of consciousness? You believe
to this?

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
All that I believe is the will be our biggest
advancement in the next phase of human development is to
is to understand our consciousness, how it interacts with our
physical world, how it acts interacts with our emotional and
social place and positions. So and then also it will

(01:12:49):
come into play when we have machines and ships and
other things that will be driven by half half our
consciousness and half the machine itself. And then I didn't
explain that very well, but basically, our interaction, more of
our conscious our conscious interaction with our environment will be

(01:13:13):
the next phase in human development because.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
It's far consciously interacting with other beings in a variety
of vehicles.

Speaker 6 (01:13:23):
Yeah, yes, yes, I believe all that is going to
come into play. You know, you know, there's lots of
stories about and recounts about how some of these ships
are enable are able to travel faster than the speed
of light. They're traveling that faster than the speed of
thought because they've mastered the consciousness, their consciousness to a

(01:13:46):
level that enables them to transcend you know, our current
laws of physics. So that's just one thing. But certainly
telepathy and communicating with you know nature, you know, feeling gaya,
you know, the Earth is a living being expanding that.
So I think there's so many avenues are going to

(01:14:09):
pop up for us to explore once we understand that
we are not trapped in our brains, that there's much
more to us than our physical selves, and that we
are eternal beings in living now in this three dimensional body.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
So this sounds like it was quite an awakening for you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Oh yeah, it was. It still is.

Speaker 6 (01:14:32):
It's unfolding now, and you know some people may you know,
not like it whatever, But I wanted to point out
and that's why I put the word awkward in front
of it, because this is new material, this is new things,
and humans tend to resist anything new, you know, the
George Bernard Shaw, you know, the great truths always begin

(01:14:54):
as blasphemy and I think that this message I'm doing
and many people are getting out there, it's awkward at first.
I'll be rejected at first, but you know, we're all,
you know, putting, you know, throwing another stone in the
pond to create ripples. And you know, people will learn

(01:15:14):
here and there from me and other authors that things
are changing. It's happening. It's happening now, and that to
be open, to know that you're protected, that we can
go into and explore other areas that we never thought
possible without fear, and to be brave about that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
We certainly have had many awkward moments on the program
where it's like, did I just say that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
I did, because when we have these conversations, it really
gets your mind moving, and we tend to head in
a variety of directions, and as they say, kids say
the dardest things will so do I from time to time.
And I'm sure you've been in some of those awkward
converisations talking about extraterrestrials and angels among close friends. But

(01:16:01):
that's okay because we're all friends here and it's a
safe space to talk about these subjects that are between
the pie normal and the abnormal. And we do it nightly. Friends,
and if you the first time you're hearing the program,
make sure you search for it on podcast and listen
to those episodes for free. And then Scott is going
to tell us about where we can follow his work.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
So my website is angel and training dot org that
has information on this book and my other books and
resources there. The paperback will be available on Amazon no
later than November twelfth. The audiobook narrated by myself is
available now on Audible and Amazon.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
So stay tuned. This is all food for thought.

Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
I put a lot of information, a lot of topics
to point whatever direction you want to go in and
start a conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
All right, Scott, Well, when you do your next books
on ghosts and Bigfoot, we'll have you back.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
Okay, yes, I'll be back And thank you for people.

Speaker 6 (01:17:12):
You're doing great work with this, you know, just having
a voice to people like me and many many others
you know that are.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Para abnormal.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
We appreciate that so much. That's doctor Scott Garrett. Best
to you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Take care.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Yeah, far, far more is abnormal in the world than
is paranormal. Hence the name of the program. We occasionally
get asked that about the name of the show, and
certainly we have some new listeners checking us out. So yeah,
we're a little paranormal and we're a little abnormal. The

(01:17:49):
scenarios we talked about earlier with a three I Atlas
and also the mysterious sphere in Columbia as being possible,
what do we want to say signs of pending first contact?

(01:18:09):
I wanted to share a viewpoint from Professor Michael Garrett,
current chair of the International Academy of Astronautics Search for
Extraterrestrial Intelligence Permanent Committee or IAA SETI for short. He
says that our knowledge of intelligent alien life is more

(01:18:30):
likely to come from an observatory receiving an extra terrestrial
signal rather than the sudden arrival of a ship. In
that scenario, organizations signed up to SETI have their own
first contact protocols, which would be to verify the signal
through an independent observatory and then the government. Eventually the

(01:18:57):
United Nations would be informed. As news would proceed of
open contact, this would be announced to the public. I
mean that would be the idea here, whether or not
that would actually happen, or whether this kind of discovery

(01:19:18):
would be kept under wraps remains to be seen, but
that is at least the idea. As I mentioned earlier,
should there be this open contact, you would seemingly need
a destination point, a meeting point for the extraterrestrials to
show up and begin these conversations. I mean, we're not

(01:19:40):
going to have them on the White House lawn or
on a military basis. Would likely be a private setting,
and which country should host that. Our friends at the
Alliance for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact are doing work along those lines,
and they've got a survey that their hope to then

(01:20:00):
present to member nations who might want to host this embassy. Also,
there is et Embassy dot org, which is an effort
by the International Ryalien Movement, and we have had both
groups on the program at one point or another on
the show, so we support their work. So check them

(01:20:24):
out if you're interested in learning more about efforts to
build embassies for extraterrestrial contact. It really is a step
that must be taken should first contact one day happen
between humans and an extra terrestrial race. Friends, it's always
fascinating for me to explore these subjects with you. I

(01:20:46):
trust that is a mutual feeling. You can listen to
all the shows, those that you may have missed, and
go back and listen to those that you want to
hear again, over and over. They are free on podcast.
From the cold dark depths of a secret dungeon somewhere
deep in the remote Pacific Northwest, I'm Jeremy Scott. Until
next time, friends, good night, and God bless