November 20, 2025 • 32 mins
A new phase in the effort to establish an embassy for diplomatic contact between humans and extraterrestrials is underway, marked by a historic collaboration that has just been announced. In this special report, Jeremy speaks with Sylvain Rochon of the Alliance for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact about this breakthrough and the mission to build an embassy for future contact with extraterrestrial civilizations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five four three two one.
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Speaker 1 (00:57):
I've gotta a special episode with some breaking news that
we couldn't save for the next time we would meet
again on the radio. So we're dropping it like it's hot,
as they say all across those podcast platforms, with some
breaking news regarding a project that we've been discussing for
several years here on the show, and that is an
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extraterrestrial embassy, a place where there could be diplomatic contact
with an extraterrestrial race for when eventual disclosure does play out,
whenever that day may come. This is a crucial step.
It's probably, honestly one that should have already happened, but
here we are. There is a country that has at
least agreed in principle or maybe beyond that to host
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this embassy, which is something that we were looking for,
a ground to basically build on, and of course where
it would be receptive, a country that would be receptive
to having these first contact to diplomatic conversations with an
extraterrestrial species. It does sound wild, and in fact, as
(02:07):
we've been having some of these conversations of late, I
have reminded the audience that there are these efforts by
the Alliance for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact and also the international
Realian movement to build an ET embassy. And so it's
kind of all coming together now with some news that
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has been shared that there is a agreement a memorandum
of collaboration to prepare an embassy for extraterrestrials with us
to talk about it is the vice president of the
Alliance for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact, Sylvan Roshan. Welcome back to
the program.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Thanks sir, Jermy. It's nice to be here and it's
a very exciting times.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, what we've been talking about for a few years now.
I think our first real in depth conversation was in
the year twenty twenty three, but prior to that, I
had briefed the audience that these efforts were taking place,
and we've discussed what would need to happen in order
for this to take place. It sounds like we're not
(03:15):
ready yet to reveal exactly where that is, but just
saying that there is an agreement now in place, is
that correct?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, that's the new development is. We've been in contact.
We being like both organizations, these that are involved here
in the Alliance and the International Rallian Movement, have been
in contact with governments since twenty nineteen with the packed
sent and proposal and money raise and all that stuff.
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So it's been six years right of where discussions have
been going off to a certain extent and accelerating over
the last couple of years, and we need a government
to formally stick their neck out and say we want
to do this strange act of establishing an embassy for
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a civilization that is not of Earth. It's a bit
of a strange thing to do, but it's a necessary
step to contact with the formal official and safe contact
with ets stay between each other. And we've talked about
this last time. So now for the very first time,
we have an actual written agreement. This is a memorandum
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of understanding of sorts. So it's not a commitment to
go ahead and do a build just yet, but it
is an agreement to work together towards that that has
been officially signed with a nation. So that's a big step.
The reason why it's such a big news is that
this is the bottleneck for this whole project. We have
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the funds, we have the plans, we have the idea, like,
the legalities are organized and all understood. That's been going
on for a while, but we have to wait for
a nation to give land and they have to do
that on our own terms. So this is huge.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And so there's an agreement in place that we will
proceed with conversations where in the country, where it would
be best, how it would be built, and I guess
maybe the the rules for what contact might look like.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, Basically, the m o U is the starting point
for more structured conversations with a host nation, and there's
multiple steps that have to occur that already were p
determined where we we we will be discussing with them
in collaboration with the the international Aralian movements. That's they're
the ones that are that have signed the MoU technically
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with the with the with the host nations, the Alliance
is going to tag along and support that's uh, you know,
to whoever science the agreement is fine, we're all in
this together. We're all moving forward with our network of organizations,
and we'll in the next two discussions will discuss these
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specific steps to to get to a build. The next step,
logically would be to establish what's called a convention for
the from the United Nations. That's to socialize the idea
formally like openly. The nation would be revealed because they
would host the convention, discuss an optional protocol that would
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adjust what legal structures in the Vienna Convention are around
diplomatic missions, because are all our documents are about the
diplomatic missions between Earth nations, So now we need to
include these terms. So there's this what's called a convention
that need to be organized in the open with multiple
nations invited and so on. So I would that's one
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of the first steps, which is more discussions and agreements.
Alongside that, the host nation can start working with us
on designating the piece of land specific where extrac territoriality
would be given for the embassy and start thinking about
the acquisition of the land, the development and moving in
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that direction. And when you when you get access to
a land and an agreement on development, then it's more
like normal course of function because then builders and you know,
scoping of land, you know, and all that stuff. That's
something we all know about. Like, that's that's kind of
not that's not that's not unusual. But but yeah, after
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them OU is established of all this, but that's not
for me, that's that's exciting because but it's it's only
an m OU. It's not a formal agreement to actually
build the embassy just yet. Right, it's the first step.
What's going to happen from here on, however, is that
because of the media and the press releases about them,
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o U exists and other nations have been discussing with
us and approached. Other nations will start communicating with us
asking whether like asking themselves whether or not they want
to be the host nation. It kind of creates a
buzz about who's going to get to that formal agreement first.
(08:13):
Somebody is going to be need to be the first.
We have funds only for one embassy, right, so it
creates a bit of a buzz and acceleration towards a
formal commitment and an a.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Public So there could be other nations that then come
forward and say, you know, here's why we would make
a good place to house this.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Right we were We've been talking with half a dozen
nations over the last couple of years, like and fairly
deep conversations. This is the first nation that decided to
put ink putting into ink. The others that have shown
interests if they want to be the nation that that
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caused the that the first embassy. They that's pressure for them,
right that one decided to sign something, and then mo
you others will will probably come forward and put their
name in a hat, so to speak, in a more
formal way, which is which is great. Then we have options.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
On this surface. Speak to you know how big of
a move this is, I mean, the first nation you
know or signaling that they are interested in potentially moving
forward with such a on the grand scheme of things.
A massive deal because in order for disclosure to take place,
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unless we expect that the extraterrestrials are just gonna land
on the White House lawn one day, there would need
to be a place to meet that would be acceptable
to both sides. That you know, the extra terrestrials say,
would agree to meet us on our own turf, and
so perhaps maybe they should be involved in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, many would argue that they are involved. Like inside
the Alliance, for example, we have many channelers as volunteers
and they are in constant contact with the ETS. So
there are like a sort of communication that's going on
inside the Raliant movement. Same thing. The leader by EL
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is in contact with EUTS as well as another contact channeler.
There are others outside of the organization that are also
that I hear words that they're talking about the time
is near, humanity is being prepared. There's this subtle conversation
that's happening between individuals and ETS that seem to occur
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not me, like, I'm just an observer of this, of
this whole scenario. So I think there's what we're looking
for is a conversation and a meeting that you and
I can understand. You know, a place, cameras on ETS
are there, and that's the idea of the embassy. It's
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the construction of the embassy itself is really an effort
in unifying humanity in the idea of meeting ETS an
official way and in a peaceful way, in a welcoming way,
and being able to construct this embassy on extra territorial
land in agreement and after a convention with the UN
where all the nations would agree this is the place where,
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and these are the rules of engagement and diplomacy. That's
for us to become comfortable with that official, visceral visual
contact that would occur. That's always been been the case.
Like you said, ETS, can you land on the on
the White House House long and say take me to
your leader, as it's been depicted in the past, But
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that would be extremely destructive to the world order because Russia, China,
inve Israel, and then all the other nations would say, look,
why why not? Why not here? Like why were they chosen?
And there would be a conflict between us. So I
think at least the prevailing assumption is that ETS want
to avoid conflict within humanity by their presence. They want
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to They're waiting for us to agree with each other
and to have a formal place we all say this
is it, these are the rules, and then that's a
an agreedom on location, which is the idea of the embassy.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
There's a timeline that you've had on your website for
some time, and certainly having this development to helps with
your mission, which is that you wanted to acquire a site,
you know, within between now in the next three years
and you're potentially there, and then then following with the
planning and implementation process and then what the goal would
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be to have an embassy up and operating in some
capacity within five years or so.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, that's right. It's the process of building something like
this takes a while, not because of the building itself,
but just you know, the land acquisition process, depending on
the nation, can be slow, to say the least, but
it can be accelerated depending on the nation where you're building.
But yeah, the timeline is roughly still correct. I would
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have to update that because we did have some stitch
by a year or two in some of the steps.
But that's all right. This news of the MoU we
believe it is going to accelerate towards that first step
of formal formally doing the site acquisition. We've been offering
offered a lot of land over the years, but not
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in the proper way, not land that's given by a
sovereign nation. We've been offered land by Aboriginal peoples, by
individuals that have land in the Midwest, for example of
the US and so on, but that's not that's not
what we're looking for. It needs to be an official
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location where it would be an official embassy recognized by
the United Nations. And therefore it has to be a nation,
an official sovereign nation that offers the land according to
the rules of the Vienna Convention, and that will come
after this MoU is gone public. Like I said, it
accelerates the decision making of the political leaders because what's happening.
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Why is taking so long for them? Because it's it's
a big deal on a historical scale, if you would,
But for them it's a big deal on a personal scale,
like it's putting their political assets on the line, so
to speak, because it is a strange, unusual project for
a lot of people, so sticking their neck out is
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risky politically, and that's why it's taking a while, Like
somebody has to kind of make a decision like and
move ahead with it, and one did with the MoU.
Now others will feel more comfort the ball because one
stuck stuck out and they want they don't want to
be number two or number three. Others will be comfortable
to UH to go ahead with an m OU, we think,
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or or or even better make a declaration UH public.
So we're we'll have to watch this space this I personally,
I only became aware of the signing, the signing of
them OE only two days ago because I was not
the one that was participating in this in the signing.
That was my partner Dan Yell that did this. So
so he knows which nation UH signed the MoU. I
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don't know. I do not because we keep things very
close to the chest here to avoid information for spilling
out into the public. That's not supposed to like weeks,
but but we expect that there's going to be more
movement before the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
We'll be back with Sylvain Rosehan, VP of the Alliance
for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact their website Alliance for et dot org.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Into the Pair of Normal pair.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Of a historic announcement involving the International Raelian Movement and
a member nation to build an extraterrestrial embassy. We're talking
with Sylvania Roshan Tonight, VP of the Alliance for extraterrestrial
diplomatic contact who has been involved the organization for at
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least six years now along with the International Relian movement
in getting this extraterrestrial embassy from concept to now where
we are or at least there is some progress in
identifying where this would possibly land. How far back does
the concept of an ET embassy go so on, as.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Far as I know, at least from the perspective of
the Araelian movement itself that started that project started in
nineteen seventy four. So, and this is from contact between
Rayel himself with an Et civilization that claimed the created
life on Earth right and they were there since forever.
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So basically we are created in their image, if you would.
So that was the concept and one of the messages
he received two missions at the time that was in
seventy three seventy four. One was well spread the word
about Ets being being intimately connected with humanity and life
on planet Earth in his creation and interactions in ancient
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times and so on, and second start plans to build
an ET embassy so that one day and at the time,
the speculation what he told us was they were looking
at twenty thirty five ish like an embassy would be
used for the ets to land, and even back then,
what was what he was writing about for that the
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project is that the embassy is pretty easy to build,
but you have to have all the nations kind of
an agreement and so on, just like what we just
discussed now, it has to be Humanity has to be
ready for it. I kind of opened for it, have
the instrument, the legal frameworks for it. And that takes
a long time. So they started raising funds in nineteen
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seventy four for the project a long time ago. The
idea of an ET embassy in general is not new.
It's not it was not born in nineteen seventy four.
The idea of meeting ets from in the stars in
some kind of formal way has existed for a long
long time, way before then. And you can even speculate
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that in ancient times, the was it the temple of
the Temple of David, may have been an embassy of
source for ets. That's where leaders would meet angels, it
would meet visitor visitors from the from the from the heavens,
from the sky that had high technology, so we could
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we could imagine that interactions formal interaction between leadership of
humanity and aliens have been going on even in ancient
times at certain places, uh, something you could call in
embassies today, but in modern times, Yeah, like you're looking
at at the last fifty years or so moving forward.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, I mean, what are the implications of, say, if
aliens come down and actually do meet with us at
the embassy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I think the implications are going to be profound and
multiple sectors, Like philosophically is going to re refactor what
are you? What we think of ourselves? I think so
that's going to be generally like the now population that
is going to are going to have a lot of
discussions around the dining room table, so to speak, around
the internet what does it mean for them? And so
on and so on. But I think most people are
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are going to be more concerned about national security, at
least initially, and like, is there is there some some
kind of risk of fear is going to be a
player in here? What is the risk of contact? Scientists
will be a concern about the risk of contamination, for example,
bacteria and viral contamination because they come from a different place,
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we don't have immunity to whatever bugs and Germans they
may be carrying, So is there is there going to
be contamination of that that sense and the other way
around as well. People that are concerned more about about
security and economy, are they going to be concerned about
the impact of that visitation in that nation? Is that
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nation going to draw all manner of funding or like
suck all the funding and investments around this area. And
what if there's exchanges of knowledge and information or technology
that's going to review revolutionize, Like you know, there's always
the dream of receiving information about how to do infinite
clean energy? Is that going to be part of the
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conversation and how is that going to reshape the economy
around the world? And of course from the security point
of view, there's a people are going to start thinking, well,
are they here completely for benign reasons? Are they going
to influence our politics and leadership? Are they going to
suddenly be aggressive in some way? All the questions are
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going to be on the table for everybody, And I
think that first couple of years of interactions are going
to show us the exact nature of the contact. Presumably,
at least my assumption is based on the fact that
EPs have been waiting for us patiently and very respectfully
for a long time, and knowing what we may do
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with certain types of information, I think they will be
very careful with contact information, and I don't think it's
going to be other than socially destructive. I don't think
the destruction is going to be.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That massive, just because they won't provide us with directly
with transformative information that would transform an economy, for example,
because that would be too disruptive and maybe destructive to
a certain degree.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And we know how an advancevilization providing too much information
into a primitive civilization can can be destructive from our
own history. So I think there's going to be a
lot of care.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
So first contact taking place at an embassy between humans
and extraterrestrial life, you think that we can handle it?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
For yeah, we are because of the nature of the
information that the relay of information I think is going
to be more historical, like who are they, where did
they come from, how do they live? What have been
they've been doing? With us? Like the kind of the
disclosure information is going to be transformational. But I don't
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think they're going to come here is like here's clean energy,
here's all these technologies that it's going to revolutionize your
your own system, because that's going to be dangerous for us,
like we're going to mess that up, and I think
that they'll they're smart enough to know this. So there's
going to be a lot of ideological shifts and changes
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and we can handle that. For the rest, I think
it's going to be like a drip mechanism, like we're
going to gradually learn a few things are going to
be actually practically applied useful from that, and that's going
to be in a safe way.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Have there been discussions with the US that you're aware
of for building this embassy?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I cannot say, Okay, all right, I'm aware of some
nations that with which we have been discussing. I've been
partaking in some of the conversations, but most of the
conversations we're done in private by Danielle and his team,
part of the movement and the and the alliance combined
and collaboration, so most of them I don't know, and
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that's on purpose. The agreements we have before even discussing
with the nations is a strong confidentiality agreements, and the
part of the agreement is that the nation itself is
the one that should be revealing the project and it
can't come from us. Therefore we have a strong lead
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protection against it.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
So so serving like as an ambassador.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
A promoter, enabler of the whole project. Yeah, we we
do have talent that can be brought to bear in
our volunteer base to to do actual work in different stages,
so we'll participate in that, But most of our work
is really bringing to bring support and awareness of the
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project and not so that politicians can take it take
it up because a lot of the work has to
be done by the host nation. It has to be
it's something That's League can do on our own, otherwise
we would have done it. So there's going to be,
depending on the specifics of the arrangement with the host nation,
some organizations that are connected with the Alliance and the
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Alliance itself will be involved or not to different degrees
in the construction. President, You remember, a host nation can
decide we're doing this, and they can decide to fund
this and do this all on their own, like they
don't need us to move the project forward. The nations
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have access to funds and they're the ones that are
establishing the land, so they can decide on their own
to do anything else here. A first nation can declare
we're going to do this, and then ten other nations
a month later can do the same declaration and do
it on their own funds. That's all good to us.
We just need a formal located embassies that are declared
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and that are formally accepted internationally as places a visit
for ets. That's all we're really looking for, and that's
all the ETS really need. They need these spaces so
that humanic it doesn't fight over each other when they
do make it as it.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
So, are there blueprints for maybe what an embassy might
look like.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We've developed blueprints in two D and three D. We
have a team of professional architects that've been working on
this for fifteen years. They started off with a movement.
Now they're collaborating with the Alliance. So we're going to
provide all that information if there is desired or new
blueprint plans can be designed. Why not if there's if
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there's a need or want by a nation to do
to do that. The material elements of the project are
pretty insignificant. We've built them all. They can be taken
and use right away, or they can be redone. It's
not a massive amount of money to kick this office
about fifty million dollars to build an nemassin. There's more
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funding that's required for like a what it needs, what
is needed around it, like to support an embassy, like
maintenance and whatever. But these are not large amounts of
money for most nations. So money is not a problem.
It's it's really the willingness to actually do it, to
make the declaration and decide to build an embassy for ets.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So is there anything that the public can do to
help in this effort?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh? Absolutely. You can declare to any any of your
local politicians that this is something that's really cool, that's
that you want. You can even use the same pitch
we have been using as in, yes it's a cool
ideological project. But if you build an embassy for eats
are formal one, imagine how much development investment that's going
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to go around it, how much tourism investment, like how
many people would come to visit you can you can
build a whole tourism industry, just like Roswell crop circles
in the UK. Parents of Giza. A lot of people
visit Giza. Puram is not for the historical context, but
because they think they were built by aliens in the past. Right,
these ideas draw money. So nations like that because it's
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you can talk about, hey, job creation, enriching the the
economy in a certain ways. So you can call you
represented and talk about all these subjects being a positive
reason why you would want to invest a small amount
of funds to build an official embassy and have it
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on a caretaker rote because officially the embassy belongs to
the eed so much somebody from here has to take
care of it. There's a minimum investment. So yeah, talk
to your your politician, make it known that this is
something that is welcomed and that is interesting to you,
and that's going to be a benefit for the community.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
And this would be for ongoing contact with the extraterrestrial civilization.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Based on conversations I've had with contactees about this, right
and Ryle himself and so on. The main point is
the first contact. That's the that's the that's the the
moment in time in history, that first contact. However, it's
it's an excellent xtually, it's it's meant to be a
long duration diplomat commission process. It's not meant to be
(29:38):
just a one shot. Uh, there is a the intention
it would be for a number of meetings that need
to occur in a place that is comfortable for us humans.
We're used to embassies and these are all these are
our rules. So the embassy is going to be built, yes,
for that very first event, but it's meant also to
be to be a place of visit for years to come.
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So from a tourism standpoint, if you would, even without
visitations or in between visitations, it's a great draw for
the economy. We believe that the host nation is going
to be uh. This the nation that's going to be
the center of the whole planet for a thousand years afterwards.
Like it's going to be. It's going to be huge
for that nation once they once they uh first visit occurs,
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and even before then, it's going to be uh it's
going to generate billions of dollars a year in tourism.
So it's going to be good for the economy even
before the first contact.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
All right, So on, how how do folks get involved
with your organization? What's the website?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, the website is a TRIPLEW dot alliance the number
four E T dot org. So just type that in
look look for the Alliance Alliance number four e t
dot org and from there there's a membership page, there's
a contact page, there's a there's a bunch of stuff
you can check out and contact us if you want
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to get involved, if you want to get some.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Information right and the International Realian Movement for more information
on their work. Et embassy dot org both the organizations
working simultaneously to bring this embassy to welcome an extraterrestrial
civilization to Earth. And we appreciate your work and you
coming on the program.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Thanks a lot, Thanks for helping spring to the word.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Absolutely gain alliance for et dot org et embassy dot org.
And this is going to happen one day, I do believe,
and maybe it will facilitate open contact. We had posted
the breaking news and somebody said, is this actually going
to happen in our lifetime? Well, as they say, stay tuned,
but this is an important first step that must be
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taken in order to have these diplomatic relations from the
cold darn depths of a secret dungeon somewhere deep in
the remote Pacific northwest. Jeremy Scott until next time, friends,
goodnight and doblas
Five four three two one.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We interrupt our program to bring you this important message.
A confirmed attack is taking place against the United States.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Aliens from an unknown location have been reported in multiple states.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We are controlling transmissions. There is another world that awaits,
far beyond what we can see and feel, a place
that's anything but ordinary. Would you believe.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I not thee.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Step into the song how the best time? Know a ghost?
Take the aspiracies and cover to the pair Red not
a Weego. We go with Jeremy Scott.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I've gotta a special episode with some breaking news that
we couldn't save for the next time we would meet
again on the radio. So we're dropping it like it's hot,
as they say all across those podcast platforms, with some
breaking news regarding a project that we've been discussing for
several years here on the show, and that is an
(01:20):
extraterrestrial embassy, a place where there could be diplomatic contact
with an extraterrestrial race for when eventual disclosure does play out,
whenever that day may come. This is a crucial step.
It's probably, honestly one that should have already happened, but
here we are. There is a country that has at
least agreed in principle or maybe beyond that to host
(01:45):
this embassy, which is something that we were looking for,
a ground to basically build on, and of course where
it would be receptive, a country that would be receptive
to having these first contact to diplomatic conversations with an
extraterrestrial species. It does sound wild, and in fact, as
(02:07):
we've been having some of these conversations of late, I
have reminded the audience that there are these efforts by
the Alliance for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact and also the international
Realian movement to build an ET embassy. And so it's
kind of all coming together now with some news that
(02:29):
has been shared that there is a agreement a memorandum
of collaboration to prepare an embassy for extraterrestrials with us
to talk about it is the vice president of the
Alliance for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact, Sylvan Roshan. Welcome back to
the program.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Thanks sir, Jermy. It's nice to be here and it's
a very exciting times.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, what we've been talking about for a few years now.
I think our first real in depth conversation was in
the year twenty twenty three, but prior to that, I
had briefed the audience that these efforts were taking place,
and we've discussed what would need to happen in order
for this to take place. It sounds like we're not
(03:15):
ready yet to reveal exactly where that is, but just
saying that there is an agreement now in place, is
that correct?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, that's the new development is. We've been in contact.
We being like both organizations, these that are involved here
in the Alliance and the International Rallian Movement, have been
in contact with governments since twenty nineteen with the packed
sent and proposal and money raise and all that stuff.
(03:43):
So it's been six years right of where discussions have
been going off to a certain extent and accelerating over
the last couple of years, and we need a government
to formally stick their neck out and say we want
to do this strange act of establishing an embassy for
(04:05):
a civilization that is not of Earth. It's a bit
of a strange thing to do, but it's a necessary
step to contact with the formal official and safe contact
with ets stay between each other. And we've talked about
this last time. So now for the very first time,
we have an actual written agreement. This is a memorandum
(04:27):
of understanding of sorts. So it's not a commitment to
go ahead and do a build just yet, but it
is an agreement to work together towards that that has
been officially signed with a nation. So that's a big step.
The reason why it's such a big news is that
this is the bottleneck for this whole project. We have
(04:48):
the funds, we have the plans, we have the idea, like,
the legalities are organized and all understood. That's been going
on for a while, but we have to wait for
a nation to give land and they have to do
that on our own terms. So this is huge.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And so there's an agreement in place that we will
proceed with conversations where in the country, where it would
be best, how it would be built, and I guess
maybe the the rules for what contact might look like.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, Basically, the m o U is the starting point
for more structured conversations with a host nation, and there's
multiple steps that have to occur that already were p
determined where we we we will be discussing with them
in collaboration with the the international Aralian movements. That's they're
the ones that are that have signed the MoU technically
(05:41):
with the with the with the host nations, the Alliance
is going to tag along and support that's uh, you know,
to whoever science the agreement is fine, we're all in
this together. We're all moving forward with our network of organizations,
and we'll in the next two discussions will discuss these
(06:01):
specific steps to to get to a build. The next step,
logically would be to establish what's called a convention for
the from the United Nations. That's to socialize the idea
formally like openly. The nation would be revealed because they
would host the convention, discuss an optional protocol that would
(06:25):
adjust what legal structures in the Vienna Convention are around
diplomatic missions, because are all our documents are about the
diplomatic missions between Earth nations, So now we need to
include these terms. So there's this what's called a convention
that need to be organized in the open with multiple
nations invited and so on. So I would that's one
(06:45):
of the first steps, which is more discussions and agreements.
Alongside that, the host nation can start working with us
on designating the piece of land specific where extrac territoriality
would be given for the embassy and start thinking about
the acquisition of the land, the development and moving in
(07:07):
that direction. And when you when you get access to
a land and an agreement on development, then it's more
like normal course of function because then builders and you know,
scoping of land, you know, and all that stuff. That's
something we all know about. Like, that's that's kind of
not that's not that's not unusual. But but yeah, after
(07:31):
them OU is established of all this, but that's not
for me, that's that's exciting because but it's it's only
an m OU. It's not a formal agreement to actually
build the embassy just yet. Right, it's the first step.
What's going to happen from here on, however, is that
because of the media and the press releases about them,
(07:52):
o U exists and other nations have been discussing with
us and approached. Other nations will start communicating with us
asking whether like asking themselves whether or not they want
to be the host nation. It kind of creates a
buzz about who's going to get to that formal agreement first.
(08:13):
Somebody is going to be need to be the first.
We have funds only for one embassy, right, so it
creates a bit of a buzz and acceleration towards a
formal commitment and an a.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Public So there could be other nations that then come
forward and say, you know, here's why we would make
a good place to house this.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Right we were We've been talking with half a dozen
nations over the last couple of years, like and fairly
deep conversations. This is the first nation that decided to
put ink putting into ink. The others that have shown
interests if they want to be the nation that that
(08:59):
caused the that the first embassy. They that's pressure for them,
right that one decided to sign something, and then mo
you others will will probably come forward and put their
name in a hat, so to speak, in a more
formal way, which is which is great. Then we have options.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
On this surface. Speak to you know how big of
a move this is, I mean, the first nation you
know or signaling that they are interested in potentially moving
forward with such a on the grand scheme of things.
A massive deal because in order for disclosure to take place,
(09:40):
unless we expect that the extraterrestrials are just gonna land
on the White House lawn one day, there would need
to be a place to meet that would be acceptable
to both sides. That you know, the extra terrestrials say,
would agree to meet us on our own turf, and
so perhaps maybe they should be involved in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, many would argue that they are involved. Like inside
the Alliance, for example, we have many channelers as volunteers
and they are in constant contact with the ETS. So
there are like a sort of communication that's going on
inside the Raliant movement. Same thing. The leader by EL
(10:25):
is in contact with EUTS as well as another contact channeler.
There are others outside of the organization that are also
that I hear words that they're talking about the time
is near, humanity is being prepared. There's this subtle conversation
that's happening between individuals and ETS that seem to occur
(10:45):
not me, like, I'm just an observer of this, of
this whole scenario. So I think there's what we're looking
for is a conversation and a meeting that you and
I can understand. You know, a place, cameras on ETS
are there, and that's the idea of the embassy. It's
(11:09):
the construction of the embassy itself is really an effort
in unifying humanity in the idea of meeting ETS an
official way and in a peaceful way, in a welcoming way,
and being able to construct this embassy on extra territorial
land in agreement and after a convention with the UN
where all the nations would agree this is the place where,
(11:31):
and these are the rules of engagement and diplomacy. That's
for us to become comfortable with that official, visceral visual
contact that would occur. That's always been been the case.
Like you said, ETS, can you land on the on
the White House House long and say take me to
your leader, as it's been depicted in the past, But
(11:54):
that would be extremely destructive to the world order because Russia, China,
inve Israel, and then all the other nations would say, look,
why why not? Why not here? Like why were they chosen?
And there would be a conflict between us. So I
think at least the prevailing assumption is that ETS want
to avoid conflict within humanity by their presence. They want
(12:17):
to They're waiting for us to agree with each other
and to have a formal place we all say this
is it, these are the rules, and then that's a
an agreedom on location, which is the idea of the embassy.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
There's a timeline that you've had on your website for
some time, and certainly having this development to helps with
your mission, which is that you wanted to acquire a site,
you know, within between now in the next three years
and you're potentially there, and then then following with the
planning and implementation process and then what the goal would
(12:53):
be to have an embassy up and operating in some
capacity within five years or so.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, that's right. It's the process of building something like
this takes a while, not because of the building itself,
but just you know, the land acquisition process, depending on
the nation, can be slow, to say the least, but
it can be accelerated depending on the nation where you're building.
But yeah, the timeline is roughly still correct. I would
(13:21):
have to update that because we did have some stitch
by a year or two in some of the steps.
But that's all right. This news of the MoU we
believe it is going to accelerate towards that first step
of formal formally doing the site acquisition. We've been offering
offered a lot of land over the years, but not
(13:43):
in the proper way, not land that's given by a
sovereign nation. We've been offered land by Aboriginal peoples, by
individuals that have land in the Midwest, for example of
the US and so on, but that's not that's not
what we're looking for. It needs to be an official
(14:04):
location where it would be an official embassy recognized by
the United Nations. And therefore it has to be a nation,
an official sovereign nation that offers the land according to
the rules of the Vienna Convention, and that will come
after this MoU is gone public. Like I said, it
accelerates the decision making of the political leaders because what's happening.
(14:27):
Why is taking so long for them? Because it's it's
a big deal on a historical scale, if you would,
But for them it's a big deal on a personal scale,
like it's putting their political assets on the line, so
to speak, because it is a strange, unusual project for
a lot of people, so sticking their neck out is
(14:49):
risky politically, and that's why it's taking a while, Like
somebody has to kind of make a decision like and
move ahead with it, and one did with the MoU.
Now others will feel more comfort the ball because one
stuck stuck out and they want they don't want to
be number two or number three. Others will be comfortable
to UH to go ahead with an m OU, we think,
(15:11):
or or or even better make a declaration UH public.
So we're we'll have to watch this space this I personally,
I only became aware of the signing, the signing of
them OE only two days ago because I was not
the one that was participating in this in the signing.
That was my partner Dan Yell that did this. So
so he knows which nation UH signed the MoU. I
(15:34):
don't know. I do not because we keep things very
close to the chest here to avoid information for spilling
out into the public. That's not supposed to like weeks,
but but we expect that there's going to be more
movement before the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
We'll be back with Sylvain Rosehan, VP of the Alliance
for Extraterrestrial Diplomatic Contact their website Alliance for et dot org.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Into the Pair of Normal pair.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Of a historic announcement involving the International Raelian Movement and
a member nation to build an extraterrestrial embassy. We're talking
with Sylvania Roshan Tonight, VP of the Alliance for extraterrestrial
diplomatic contact who has been involved the organization for at
(16:25):
least six years now along with the International Relian movement
in getting this extraterrestrial embassy from concept to now where
we are or at least there is some progress in
identifying where this would possibly land. How far back does
the concept of an ET embassy go so on, as.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Far as I know, at least from the perspective of
the Araelian movement itself that started that project started in
nineteen seventy four. So, and this is from contact between
Rayel himself with an Et civilization that claimed the created
life on Earth right and they were there since forever.
(17:11):
So basically we are created in their image, if you would.
So that was the concept and one of the messages
he received two missions at the time that was in
seventy three seventy four. One was well spread the word
about Ets being being intimately connected with humanity and life
on planet Earth in his creation and interactions in ancient
(17:33):
times and so on, and second start plans to build
an ET embassy so that one day and at the time,
the speculation what he told us was they were looking
at twenty thirty five ish like an embassy would be
used for the ets to land, and even back then,
what was what he was writing about for that the
(17:57):
project is that the embassy is pretty easy to build,
but you have to have all the nations kind of
an agreement and so on, just like what we just
discussed now, it has to be Humanity has to be
ready for it. I kind of opened for it, have
the instrument, the legal frameworks for it. And that takes
a long time. So they started raising funds in nineteen
(18:20):
seventy four for the project a long time ago. The
idea of an ET embassy in general is not new.
It's not it was not born in nineteen seventy four.
The idea of meeting ets from in the stars in
some kind of formal way has existed for a long
long time, way before then. And you can even speculate
(18:44):
that in ancient times, the was it the temple of
the Temple of David, may have been an embassy of
source for ets. That's where leaders would meet angels, it
would meet visitor visitors from the from the from the heavens,
from the sky that had high technology, so we could
(19:07):
we could imagine that interactions formal interaction between leadership of
humanity and aliens have been going on even in ancient
times at certain places, uh, something you could call in
embassies today, but in modern times, Yeah, like you're looking
at at the last fifty years or so moving forward.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, I mean, what are the implications of, say, if
aliens come down and actually do meet with us at
the embassy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I think the implications are going to be profound and
multiple sectors, Like philosophically is going to re refactor what
are you? What we think of ourselves? I think so
that's going to be generally like the now population that
is going to are going to have a lot of
discussions around the dining room table, so to speak, around
the internet what does it mean for them? And so
on and so on. But I think most people are
(20:04):
are going to be more concerned about national security, at
least initially, and like, is there is there some some
kind of risk of fear is going to be a
player in here? What is the risk of contact? Scientists
will be a concern about the risk of contamination, for example,
bacteria and viral contamination because they come from a different place,
(20:26):
we don't have immunity to whatever bugs and Germans they
may be carrying, So is there is there going to
be contamination of that that sense and the other way
around as well. People that are concerned more about about
security and economy, are they going to be concerned about
the impact of that visitation in that nation? Is that
(20:47):
nation going to draw all manner of funding or like
suck all the funding and investments around this area. And
what if there's exchanges of knowledge and information or technology
that's going to review revolutionize, Like you know, there's always
the dream of receiving information about how to do infinite
clean energy? Is that going to be part of the
(21:09):
conversation and how is that going to reshape the economy
around the world? And of course from the security point
of view, there's a people are going to start thinking, well,
are they here completely for benign reasons? Are they going
to influence our politics and leadership? Are they going to
suddenly be aggressive in some way? All the questions are
(21:33):
going to be on the table for everybody, And I
think that first couple of years of interactions are going
to show us the exact nature of the contact. Presumably,
at least my assumption is based on the fact that
EPs have been waiting for us patiently and very respectfully
for a long time, and knowing what we may do
(21:57):
with certain types of information, I think they will be
very careful with contact information, and I don't think it's
going to be other than socially destructive. I don't think
the destruction is going to be.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That massive, just because they won't provide us with directly
with transformative information that would transform an economy, for example,
because that would be too disruptive and maybe destructive to
a certain degree.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And we know how an advancevilization providing too much information
into a primitive civilization can can be destructive from our
own history. So I think there's going to be a
lot of care.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
So first contact taking place at an embassy between humans
and extraterrestrial life, you think that we can handle it?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
For yeah, we are because of the nature of the
information that the relay of information I think is going
to be more historical, like who are they, where did
they come from, how do they live? What have been
they've been doing? With us? Like the kind of the
disclosure information is going to be transformational. But I don't
(23:03):
think they're going to come here is like here's clean energy,
here's all these technologies that it's going to revolutionize your
your own system, because that's going to be dangerous for us,
like we're going to mess that up, and I think
that they'll they're smart enough to know this. So there's
going to be a lot of ideological shifts and changes
(23:23):
and we can handle that. For the rest, I think
it's going to be like a drip mechanism, like we're
going to gradually learn a few things are going to
be actually practically applied useful from that, and that's going
to be in a safe way.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Have there been discussions with the US that you're aware
of for building this embassy?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I cannot say, Okay, all right, I'm aware of some
nations that with which we have been discussing. I've been
partaking in some of the conversations, but most of the
conversations we're done in private by Danielle and his team,
part of the movement and the and the alliance combined
and collaboration, so most of them I don't know, and
(24:08):
that's on purpose. The agreements we have before even discussing
with the nations is a strong confidentiality agreements, and the
part of the agreement is that the nation itself is
the one that should be revealing the project and it
can't come from us. Therefore we have a strong lead
(24:30):
protection against it.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
So so serving like as an ambassador.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
A promoter, enabler of the whole project. Yeah, we we
do have talent that can be brought to bear in
our volunteer base to to do actual work in different stages,
so we'll participate in that, But most of our work
is really bringing to bring support and awareness of the
(25:02):
project and not so that politicians can take it take
it up because a lot of the work has to
be done by the host nation. It has to be
it's something That's League can do on our own, otherwise
we would have done it. So there's going to be,
depending on the specifics of the arrangement with the host nation,
some organizations that are connected with the Alliance and the
(25:24):
Alliance itself will be involved or not to different degrees
in the construction. President, You remember, a host nation can
decide we're doing this, and they can decide to fund
this and do this all on their own, like they
don't need us to move the project forward. The nations
(25:45):
have access to funds and they're the ones that are
establishing the land, so they can decide on their own
to do anything else here. A first nation can declare
we're going to do this, and then ten other nations
a month later can do the same declaration and do
it on their own funds. That's all good to us.
We just need a formal located embassies that are declared
(26:07):
and that are formally accepted internationally as places a visit
for ets. That's all we're really looking for, and that's
all the ETS really need. They need these spaces so
that humanic it doesn't fight over each other when they
do make it as it.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
So, are there blueprints for maybe what an embassy might
look like.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We've developed blueprints in two D and three D. We
have a team of professional architects that've been working on
this for fifteen years. They started off with a movement.
Now they're collaborating with the Alliance. So we're going to
provide all that information if there is desired or new
blueprint plans can be designed. Why not if there's if
(26:52):
there's a need or want by a nation to do
to do that. The material elements of the project are
pretty insignificant. We've built them all. They can be taken
and use right away, or they can be redone. It's
not a massive amount of money to kick this office
about fifty million dollars to build an nemassin. There's more
(27:14):
funding that's required for like a what it needs, what
is needed around it, like to support an embassy, like
maintenance and whatever. But these are not large amounts of
money for most nations. So money is not a problem.
It's it's really the willingness to actually do it, to
make the declaration and decide to build an embassy for ets.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So is there anything that the public can do to
help in this effort?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh? Absolutely. You can declare to any any of your
local politicians that this is something that's really cool, that's
that you want. You can even use the same pitch
we have been using as in, yes it's a cool
ideological project. But if you build an embassy for eats
are formal one, imagine how much development investment that's going
(28:04):
to go around it, how much tourism investment, like how
many people would come to visit you can you can
build a whole tourism industry, just like Roswell crop circles
in the UK. Parents of Giza. A lot of people
visit Giza. Puram is not for the historical context, but
because they think they were built by aliens in the past. Right,
these ideas draw money. So nations like that because it's
(28:29):
you can talk about, hey, job creation, enriching the the
economy in a certain ways. So you can call you
represented and talk about all these subjects being a positive
reason why you would want to invest a small amount
of funds to build an official embassy and have it
(28:51):
on a caretaker rote because officially the embassy belongs to
the eed so much somebody from here has to take
care of it. There's a minimum investment. So yeah, talk
to your your politician, make it known that this is
something that is welcomed and that is interesting to you,
and that's going to be a benefit for the community.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
And this would be for ongoing contact with the extraterrestrial civilization.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Based on conversations I've had with contactees about this, right
and Ryle himself and so on. The main point is
the first contact. That's the that's the that's the the
moment in time in history, that first contact. However, it's
it's an excellent xtually, it's it's meant to be a
long duration diplomat commission process. It's not meant to be
(29:38):
just a one shot. Uh, there is a the intention
it would be for a number of meetings that need
to occur in a place that is comfortable for us humans.
We're used to embassies and these are all these are
our rules. So the embassy is going to be built, yes,
for that very first event, but it's meant also to
be to be a place of visit for years to come.
(30:01):
So from a tourism standpoint, if you would, even without
visitations or in between visitations, it's a great draw for
the economy. We believe that the host nation is going
to be uh. This the nation that's going to be
the center of the whole planet for a thousand years afterwards.
Like it's going to be. It's going to be huge
for that nation once they once they uh first visit occurs,
(30:25):
and even before then, it's going to be uh it's
going to generate billions of dollars a year in tourism.
So it's going to be good for the economy even
before the first contact.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
All right, So on, how how do folks get involved
with your organization? What's the website?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, the website is a TRIPLEW dot alliance the number
four E T dot org. So just type that in
look look for the Alliance Alliance number four e t
dot org and from there there's a membership page, there's
a contact page, there's a there's a bunch of stuff
you can check out and contact us if you want
(31:03):
to get involved, if you want to get some.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Information right and the International Realian Movement for more information
on their work. Et embassy dot org both the organizations
working simultaneously to bring this embassy to welcome an extraterrestrial
civilization to Earth. And we appreciate your work and you
coming on the program.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Thanks a lot, Thanks for helping spring to the word.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Absolutely gain alliance for et dot org et embassy dot org.
And this is going to happen one day, I do believe,
and maybe it will facilitate open contact. We had posted
the breaking news and somebody said, is this actually going
to happen in our lifetime? Well, as they say, stay tuned,
but this is an important first step that must be
(31:50):
taken in order to have these diplomatic relations from the
cold darn depths of a secret dungeon somewhere deep in
the remote Pacific northwest. Jeremy Scott until next time, friends,
goodnight and doblas
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