July 10, 2024 • 62 mins
In this week's episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Albatross, spiritual herbalist, rewilding coach, and founder of FeatherBee Apothecary. Albatross has been immersed in the plant kingdom since she was a child. Her grandfather taught her how to talk with plants and develop a relationship with them. Her gift of spirit plant communication was encouraged, laying down the path she walks today to offer education, resources, and energy healing services for eco-conscious individuals who are passionate about holistic health and spirituality. Albatross' unique ability to sense and perceive tree energies significantly informs her holistic healing approaches in energy reading, coaching, and product formulation. Her bespoke herbal kits and products are aimed at facilitating authentic living, healing, and manifestation. Albatross is excited to share a free informational guide about self-care. You can find this eBook and learn more about her services and products at www.featherbeeapothecary.com
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Kristen O'Meara (00:00):
Hello, everyone, and welcome to
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Intuition Talks.
I am Kristen O'Meara, and I amhere with my lovely new friend,
Casey Albatross.
Casey.
How are you today?
Albatross (00:13):
I'm doing really, well.
Um, today's been a quiet day, soI was able to actually get out
into my garden and spend sometime with my plants.
I was able to get a harvest ofsome holy basil, which I'm so
excited about because I can'twait to make a tea with the
flowers and the leaves.
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Um, so I've been blessed thismorning with a whole bunch of
them to start drying so I canuse it in tea.
Kristen O'Meara (00:41):
Oh, I just love, love holy basil.
I, it's probably the onetincture that I use that helps
me with stress.
Albatross (00:51):
It's huge for stress relief.
It's a, it just helps promotewell being and the feeling of
joy because the flower smell isso sweet.
You can kind of almost just, nomatter where you are, you can
feel like you're sitting in ameadow of these flowers.
Kristen O'Meara (01:09):
It's a very special plant, and it has a long
history, too.
It
Albatross (01:13):
really does.
It goes all the way back toIndia.
Kristen O'Meara (01:16):
Yes.
Albatross (01:17):
In Ayurvedic medicine.
Kristen O'Meara (01:19):
Are they medicine?
I love it.
Well, folks, I want to introduceyou to Albatross and give you a
sense of her background.
And of course, we're going tolearn more about Albatross as we
continue our conversation today,albatross is an educator in
pharmacological studies at thecollege level and an apprentice
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clinical herbalist beyond heracademic endeavors.
She harnesses her innatemetaphysical talents as a
spiritual herbalist and wellnesscoach.
She crafts bespoke herbal kitsaimed at facilitating authentic
living, healing andmanifestation.
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Albatross is unique ability tosense and perceive tree energies
significantly informs herholistic healing approaches and
energy reading coaching andproduct formulations.
But before we jump in to yourstory and working with plants, I
have a channeling for you.
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And I received it this morning.
I'm
Albatross (02:27):
so excited.
Kristen O'Meara (02:28):
Yes.
And this is the message to you,Albatross, and for folks who are
listening today.
Albatross, you are glorious tobehold.
We see you identifying manythings.
We see you identifying theplants, the trees, the grasses,
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and other aspects of your lifefor the benefit of you and for
all who will be coming to you topartake in your wisdom and your
grace.
To serve man and woman kind andthe spirits who are linked with
all of you in the web of life.
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You see, your journey began at avery young age, an age that set
the wheel in motion for you todiscover who you are in the web
of life.
Who you are in relation with allthe beings that surround you,
you have suffered great lossesand we are with you to help you
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understand that although there,there has been great pain and
sorrow in your life, you aremore than you're suffering.
You know this.
And so do all of the people whoare listening today.
The trials of a human life aresignificant.
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And it is important for you tocontinue circling back to your
place in the web of life.
And that includes all beings wholive with you and what you call
the natural world.
You see, there is no distinctionbetween the world that you
consider living in and thenatural world.
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All is one.
Part of the medicine, Albatross,that you are giving to the world
is to remind people that theyare nature and that there is no
distinction or separation to bemade.
You are here as a masterteacher, and we see you so
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clearly holding a great staff, agreat staff of a tree that you
know well.
A staff that was given to you,not taken without awareness, and
that staff, even though it ismovable and wieldable, it is
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connected deeply to the centerof the earth.
We see you with a beautifulcloak of self compassion and
self understanding, a cloak thatholds you and gives you warmth,
but a cloak that also remindsyou of the trials and
tribulations of a human life.
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Thank you.
So that you can continue weavingyour magic and distilling it as
medicine for those who resonatewith you and your vibration to
know that they are more thanthey're suffering, that they are
more than being a human being.
And that they are more than thelife that they're living in
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modernity.
With your staff and cloak andmedicine, we congratulate you
and we thank you for yourservice.
There are many beings thathumans do not believe have a
voice.
And you know these voices verywell.
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Voices from the plant and animalkingdom.
You are giving the plant kingdoma voice.
You are connecting that voice tohumans so that they know that
they have brothers and sistersin the plant kingdom to help
them.
And they will learn throughtheir connections with the plant
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kingdom that they are stewardsand brothers and sisters of what
is considered the natural world.
You are playing a part to helpheal.
You are playing a part to helpReunite all spirit in the web of
life so that all spiritremembers that there is no
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separation and that suffering isnot the entire story.
The plants feel you when youcome near them.
They know who you are and theyapplaud you as we do.
Know in your heart that this isthe truth and know in your heart
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that the medicine that you brew,the medicine that you give with
your love and wisdom andawareness touches many.
We are excited to see your pathunfold and we are excited to see
how others paths unfold as youtouch and continue to make
ripples of light.
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and awareness in the web oflife.
We are with you, dear one, andwe love you.
Albatross (07:51):
That's powerful.
Thank you.
Kristen O'Meara (07:54):
You're welcome.
Did that resonate with you?
Albatross (07:59):
Absolutely.
There is so much in there on mybeliefs and how I interact, um,
with the plant world and thespirit world.
And yes, I do actually have astaff that's made out of it.
Kristen O'Meara (08:16):
I love it.
Albatross (08:18):
And I do, I carry it with me to events.
Um, and it's a huge part of myspiritual work when I travel to
the other side, um, to interact.
Kristen O'Meara (08:29):
I had no idea.
I love it.
I love it.
Well, I was sharing with youbefore we hit record and I was
like, I wonder who's going tocome through.
This was before I channeled themessage and I got milk thistle.
Oh, wow.
So, and I was thinking like, youknow, I haven't channeled
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plants.
I've channeled animals, but Ihaven't channeled plants.
And I was like, well, so they'reliving beings.
They have a consciousness.
But it was really interestingand for folks who are like,
really milk thistle, you'rechanneling a plant.
So what?
When you channel higher forms ofconsciousness, they are that
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energy, that vibration isworking with your mind and your
aura.
And you have your own vocabularyas a, as a human being.
So they're able to work withthat vocabulary.
They're able to access the wordsthat I know.
And sometimes I get words thatwere like, I have to look them
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up.
Like, I don't know that word.
Yeah.
But I'm like, what is that word?
And I'm like, is that real?
So I, you know, look it up.
I'm like, wow, that's a realword.
It's really old.
But it's, it's there.
So they use our, our vocabularyand they, they help us to bring
that message through.
So milk thistle.
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I don't know if you have a, ifyou're a friend of milk thistle.
Um, but I thought that wasreally interesting.
Albatross (10:05):
So I haven't developed a one on one
relationship with milk thistle.
What I do know is that it'samazing for women.
Um, it's a strong protector ofthe home and the hearth.
Kristen O'Meara (10:16):
So
Albatross (10:18):
it makes sense because it's so, my practice is
so close to my home and myspiritual space, which is my
garden, which I consider kind ofmy hearth.
Kristen O'Meara (10:28):
Yes.
Albatross (10:30):
So, I could see why milk thistle would come through.
That's
Kristen O'Meara (10:35):
interesting.
Albatross (10:36):
It's beautiful.
Kristen O'Meara (10:37):
Oh, well I'm glad that you liked it, and I
think milk thistle, and you ofcourse.
So, so let's start with whatbrought you into this work.
Albatross (10:50):
Sure.
So I actually started when I wasvery, very young, as you, you're
talking about.
Channeling brought through.
Um, but the earliest that Iremember is actually going out
to my grandfather's gardenbecause he was, he farmed, they
had a farm that they kind ofrented and he got some of that
from them.
But I remember going out withhim to the plants and he taught
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me how to talk to them.
Kristen O'Meara (11:16):
Oh, I remember you telling me that.
That's so amazing.
Albatross (11:20):
So it all kinda came from my grandfather who, who
passed that on to me and then.
You know, I just made more andmore friends out in the field.
So that's where they couldalways find me.
Um, but you know, as, as you getolder and you grow apart from
that, you become more a part ofthe human realm and, you know,
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in school it wasn't, as cool togo hang out with the plants, you
know?
Kristen O'Meara (11:48):
Yeah.
Albatross (11:49):
Um, so as I got older I, I did kind of find that I was
programmed to find some distanceand I think that's true for most
of us.
Um, but then after a few yearsof about when I was 22, 23, um,
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I was really lost.
I had lost my mother to cancerand I had spent several years
after college taking care of herand kind of putting myself to
the wayside.
Um, I was supposed to leave togo to a graduate program in the
UK, but that just wasn'tpossible because I needed to
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stay home to care for my mother.
And when she left, I kind offelt this loss of everything.
Loss of home, loss of a guidingstar, just, I felt completely
and utterly alone.
And I, I was trying to find Thebest path back right to return
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to myself and because Iultimately realized that I
couldn't live for anybody elseanymore that I really truly
needed to live for myselfbecause I had spent so many
years actually just not notdoing that so discussed
disconnected.
Um, so the way that I kind offound my way home was to find my
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plant friends again, and.
I was actually reading a verybeautiful book, Braiding
Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmer,and I found this quote where
she's talking about how shetaught her, her daughter's
gardening.
Because when she's gone, they'llstill have a mother.
Oh.
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It's, it's so beautiful and, andconnects me to, you know, it was
absolutely exactly what I feelwhen I go out to my garden, to
my plants, you know, MotherEarth is still here.
Kristen O'Meara (13:56):
Yes.
Albatross (13:57):
My mother may be gone in physical form, but her spirit
is still here.
And, um, Her father is thegrandfather I'm talking about
who spoke to me and taught mehow to, to speak to the plants.
So it comes through that line.
So ancestrally, they're stillhere with me.
Kristen O'Meara (14:15):
Of course.
Albatross (14:17):
And their lessons and their legacy live on through me
in this work that I've beendoing.
So I've, I've walked for a longtime kind of feeling like, Um,
because I work in healthcare andpharmaceuticals, uh, science,
like you were talking aboutearlier.
So I felt like I was walkingthrough this world that was ever
so off in vibration.
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And it was, you just feel likeyou're walking through a cloud
and it's not quite aligning.
And you're like, what is it?
Everything seems weird.
Kristen O'Meara (14:50):
Yeah.
Albatross (14:51):
As soon as I like switched over and I started
looking at.
more Eastern practices, Easternbody, the energetic body, um,
the spiritual herbalism, it justkind of clicked.
So my world became a little lessfuzzy, more aligned, and, and
then now I'm here.
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So I started, uh, Feather BeeApothecary in 2018, and I've
been going strong since thenwith my different product lines.
And here recently, I've decidedthat I'm going to That's all
good.
Um, but I really want to talk topeople and make a difference for
individuals.
So I have opened up my wellnesscoaching that I really hope to
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take off and I call it rewildinginstead of wellness coaching.
Kristen O'Meara (15:42):
Yeah.
Tell us about that.
Cause I love the rewilding.
Albatross (15:46):
Yeah.
So that programming that I wastalking to you about, um, when I
was telling my story, I feellike And we, we find this kind
of terminology in human designand in a few other, like,
Eastern medicine, we find thisprogramming or deprogramming
kind of terminology or beliefsystems would be another way of
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saying it, but we've developedthese ways of acting these ways
of being that have sort of Theyhave supported us through
different situations, um, but welater on find out that they're
really not the best adaptions.
They're not the best beliefs tohave, um, so we really need to
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deprogram ourselves to get awayfrom that.
And that's what I call ourwilding.
So we knew when we were little,like I knew when I was five
years old what I was supposed tobe doing.
And I just did it naturally.
There was no There was nothought, there was no block,
there was no idea that it mightbe wrong or that somebody might
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laugh at me for it, right?
Yeah,
Kristen O'Meara (16:57):
no doubt.
Albatross (16:59):
There was no doubt.
Yeah, the ego
Kristen O'Meara (17:00):
wasn't like saying, oh, it's not safe to go
outside this boundary, yeah.
Albatross (17:05):
Right, there was nothing there, there was no
block there.
Um, but then as I got older, youknow, you're like, oh, maybe
not.
And that's that programming, soI want us all to get back to our
wild, inner selves that knowexactly, that intuitive self,
because your soul knows, yoursoul came here with its plan and
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its path, and your soul knowswhere you need to be.
So our, if we can just rewildand let go a little bit, We can
get back there.
So that's why I call himrewilding.
Kristen O'Meara (17:39):
I love it.
It just reminds me of a wildforest, you know, or that's both
words are kind of the same, butthis forest that or field,
something that is.
For the most part left alone,you know, uh, there isn't any
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like what you said thatprogramming there isn't any, um,
structures built there to servea purpose.
It's just there and reconnectingthe folks that you are working
with.
To that space that is wild, thathas so much potential that has
so many possibilities that'sconnected to like the channeling
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the web of life to remember thatwe're nature, that we're a part
of that.
And there's an illusion that,um, and a lot of folks know
this, but you know, our house iskind of like, It provides
shelter, safety, um, there arethings that of course,
gathering, family gathering, butit's not necessarily our home
home.
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it's kind of an illusion in alot of ways.
Like, for me, when it's nighttime, I think of like, Oh, I
just want to sleep outside.
You know, I just want to walk,take a long walk outside.
And I think that's why there'ssuch a big draw to camping and
to being outside and do this anddo that.
But sometimes our times out innature seem like, and this is a
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broad generalization, but I'mgoing on a rafting trip, I'm
doing this, I'm going camping,but it's stillness involved.
It's kind of like what you said,play recreation, and this is a
generalization and I definitelypartake in that.
But I love the stillness.
I love what you're saying whenyou are with your work, talking
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to the plants and, and gettingthat information and connection.
And I just think it's sobeautiful because we have so
much to learn, don't we?
From the plants.
Albatross (19:38):
We really do.
Um, I consider the plants ourolder brothers and sisters.
Kristen O'Meara (19:42):
Yeah,
Albatross (19:44):
they have been here for much longer than the human
species has been here.
And if you think about it, theykind of have unique
circumstances.
Now, as humans, if we have aproblem, or we encounter
something, we can always move,right?
We can always get away, we canavoid, we have a lot of these
tactics.
Um, but our plant siblings donot have that.
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They had to adapt and overcomein different ways.
They are 100 percent beholden totheir environment.
Kristen O'Meara (20:17):
Yeah.
Albatross (20:18):
Each plant species has learned a different lesson,
and they can share that lessonwith us through either spiritual
work, um, or the physicalingestion.
or use of them as medicine.
So, I mean, it's so, like, mindblowing and powerful to me, just
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to think of how strong the plantspecies is.
And, and they, they put up a lotwith us.
Um, you know, they're quite kindstill for, um, everything that
the human species does.
Um, but they're so kind andgiving and pure, pure light,
pure spirits.
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And, You know, that, thatsharing that wisdom they have
for us is just really, it'sreally immense, really immense.
Kristen O'Meara (21:10):
I want to offer myself up as an example, because
I had a session with you, whichwas incredible in credible,
incredible, and I keep learningabout the tree and the plant
that you identified my
Albatross (21:26):
It's your signature energy, my signature
Kristen O'Meara (21:29):
energy.
Thank you.
So I want folks to reallyunderstand how this works
Albatross (21:34):
sure.
Um, so that particular sessionis what I call tree frequency
guidance.
Um, so when I sit down withsomeone, we're looking at, or
I'm looking at what is theirfrequency, their tree frequency.
And once I get that, I canunderstand a lot about their
energetic body and the lessonsthat that person has come to
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learn, um, in their humanexperience.
And specifically, it tells me alot about where their chakra,
their Energy body pulls from.
Um, and you can kind of think ofthem as overarching.
So, do you mind if I shareyours?
Kristen O'Meara (22:15):
Yes, I want to, because I think it would really
help.
And yeah, when you told me this,all this, I was like, Oh my
gosh, you have looked inside thedepth of my soul.
I've seen.
I loved it.
Albatross (22:30):
And so your, your tree energy is a hawthorn tree
which I find, um, really greatand I love hawthorn trees, but
this morning I was telling you Ipulled some cards about our
session today and through myoracle deck the hawthorn tree
fell out and I was like, I knowI'm going to see her.
Kristen O'Meara (22:48):
I love it.
Albatross (22:49):
So the synchronicities, you can't make
this stuff up, um, but so you'rea hawthorn tree and Hawthorne
tree, if we think about theseplants or these trees, energies
that you align with, they'rekind of an umbrella.
So they give me an idea of wheresomebody is going to be pulling
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their energy from.
And by understanding the botanyof the plant, the physical
attributes of it, but then I canalso kind of work with its
spiritual aspects.
So we're kind of merging the twoto understand the person from a
holistic point of view, theenergetic body and the physical
body, because our energeticbody, if we leave it for a long
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time, if we encounter issues orwe have excess of energy in
different places, the, it willreflect in the physical body.
Which is amazing to me becausethe human body is so complex and
just an amazing creation.
Oh.
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On two, on two different levels.
So that's my biology nerdshowing.
But so we get an idea of wherethose energies are pulling and
specifically for Hawthornetrees, the biggest is going to
be the heart chakra.
Kristen O'Meara (24:12):
As
Albatross (24:12):
we look at the Hawthorne tree, we can use that,
and it is used, has been usedfor centuries, as a cardiac aid.
Um, so heart aid.
Um, so that's going to be likethe biggest draw, but then if we
also look at the hawthorn tree,we know we have some red berries
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going on, and the red kind oftells us a lot about the root,
but also kind of leading backinto the cardiovascular system.
So we have all of that going on.
So I know Hawthorne trees, if welook at them as an umbrella,
we're going to have those twoenergy centers.
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that are working overtime.
So a person who is a hawthorntree is going to be giving a lot
from their heart and a lot fromtheir root.
So they're, they're going to benurturing, caring, kind people
who are really focused onbuilding home, setting space,
and making sure that it's stableand secure.
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So that's kind of the umbrellaof hawthorn trees.
And then Underneath that eachindividual is going to be
different because not everyHawthorne tree is the same.
Right.
With that, I'll use my intuitivegift to see what are the other
layers that are going on withthis person.
And then how can we start tofeed those energetic centers so
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that we can find alignment, wecan find personal growth, and
we're not depleted.
We're not getting into a placewhere we're just so fatigued and
tired and stressed because we'vegiven all of our energy away.
Kristen O'Meara (25:54):
And that that's my story.
Um, and that's something thatI've been working on for years
in the heart chakra and the rootchakra.
Well, the third two.
Um, definitely what I've workedon to heal, to, to grow more
awareness about, um, a lot ofsurvival issues throughout my
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life, a lot of trauma, uh, theheart, my heart is easily open,
but I can also keep it closed.
And I loved what you said aboutthe Hawthorne with the thorns.
Because having certain traumasin my life, I have created a way
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to, without knowing how toperhaps set boundaries, or not
knowing how to reserve myenergy, or not having that Uh,
not having that awareness.
I've had this, um, way ofkeeping my, myself, uh, perhaps
from getting hurt again.
It's been a protective mechanismof the Thor.
Albatross (26:59):
Yeah, something that's built into you.
Kristen O'Meara (27:02):
Yeah, so it's, I loved Even though I knew a lot
of this from counseling and mywork in energy and my work, um,
in all sorts of areas, I lovedyou bringing in the Hawthorne
tree because it, it gives megoosebumps.
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It's like, oh, I have a very biglove for gardening.
I have for decades.
I love plants.
So it was that, but it also.
validated a lot for me and itgave me another perspective.
It was incredibly rich.
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It was incredibly rich and I wasable to apply it in such a deep
way.
So, and for an example, if Ifeel depleted and I've given a
lot in caregiving, um, I'll goout into the world and I notice
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that.
I can feel kind of closed in,like my heart's kind of shut
down a little bit.
I feel a little prickly.
I, I, I really got a sense of,okay, this is what I'm doing.
So like, okay, I think that the,I think the thorns are out.
I think my heart's kind ofclosed.
Let's smile, you know, and notsee it as me like giving, but
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just me being.
Yes, me just being in joy andthat can be hard to shift in and
out of sometimes when we feellike we've given a lot like
with.
We taking care of a child withautism or my mother or, but you
know, I, and I've beenpracticing, I've been feeling
like, Oh, I can kind of sensethe prickly.
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I can kind of sense that myheart's kind of shut down, like
let's let the light shine, youknow?
So I don't know.
I just found it just really,really deep, deep, powerful
medicine.
Albatross (29:02):
I love the prickly reference.
Um, it's so, it's so perfect forHawthorne's.
Oh,
Kristen O'Meara (29:09):
this is the only way I can reserve.
And it's not true, you know, youknow,
Albatross (29:15):
you, you are in that caretaker space and you're,
you're constantly giving, likewe talked about, you know, you,
you feel depleted, you feel likethere's no room for you.
And oftentimes you feel like aboundary has been crossed, but
you don't, you feel it.
You just don't know what thatboundary was.
And for you, you know, that itis a crossing into your thorns.
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You know, somebody was actuallylike pulling all of your energy
and they were kind of in a waylike touching your soul.
You know, they were depletingyou to that.
Um.
So the natural instinct, you're,you're only protection, right?
Hawthorne trees are susceptibleto their environment.
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They can't go anywhere.
So what do they have to protectthem?
These thorns that they've grown.
Now that, that's one of theadaptions that they have taken
on from their space to, to kindof prevent the, all of their
berries from being eaten so theycan reproduce.
And to continue to give.
Kristen O'Meara (30:19):
Yes.
I just love that.
I love that.
We all need these metaphors.
Not that this medicine is just ametaphor.
It's not.
I can hold the image of thehawthorn tree.
I can hold it and just reallylet it sink in as medicine.
Right, I really and I just feelthe connection.
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So thank you.
That was a big gift.
Albatross (30:44):
You're welcome.
The visualization of the treefor you, you can actually have
Hawthorne tea.
We talked about a great tearitual for you.
So, in different cultures.
They tie blessings or wishes onHawthorne trees for the fairies.
(31:05):
Um, so that, that was a reallygood, I enjoyed that one.
Yeah.
Um, and the fact that you have aHawthorne tree nearby is just.
That's awesome.
Kristen O'Meara (31:16):
Yes.
And it's, I think a Western one.
Um, so, but yeah, so that's justa taste folks of, of what it's
like, and it really is.
And it's an in depth session.
It's, it's like what, whatAlbatross is saying.
There's a lot that is beingshared about that.
Yeah.
(31:37):
Yeah.
Perhaps another plan or so on.
So it's, it's fascinating.
What else would you like toshare about your work?
Albatross (31:47):
Oh, um, so we haven't talked about working with spirit
allies yet, or plant spiritallies.
Yes, let's do it.
And they can be used inconjunction if you know your
tree frequency.
But, um, Or, um, you canactually have a house plant
familiar, which I absolutelylove, love to pieces, So the
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idea is that you are workingwith the, a plant in your, a
plant that you have out in yourgarden or a house plant that you
have in your house, and you'lljust create a meditation.
And develop a relationship withyour plant and the spirit will
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act as an ally for you.
Um, in any kind of healing workthat you're doing or even in
spell work.
Yes.
Kristen O'Meara (32:42):
That, may I ask, so you identified dandelion
as a plant for me.
So is that what you're referringto?
Because I'm feeling, man, Ican't tell you how helpful that
was.
Because the more I learn aboutdandelion, And how that heals
verbally are those issues that Iactually have remarkable.
(33:07):
So I was like, Oh my gosh.
And so I'm drinking dandeliontea when I see them.
I, and I've always been drawn tothem and I, I, but I really like
what you're saying, developing arelationship with spirit.
Albatross (33:20):
So I
Kristen O'Meara (33:21):
love, I love what you're saying about, about
that.
Albatross (33:24):
Yeah, I've actually been, um, developing my, my
current relationship.
I, I want to get to know all ofthe, the plants, um, but I'm
currently working withchamomile, so I'm growing
chamomile out in my garden, um,and I'll just make sure that I
go and I sit with her.
every day for, you know, itdoesn't have to be too long.
(33:45):
I like to set my, my limit atlike five minutes, so I can get
out there, um, kind of prune myplant up, make sure that she's
got all the water that sheneeds, and then I'll kind of sit
with her and, um, You actuallysent me an amazing flower
essence that I've been using
Kristen O'Meara (34:05):
with this as
Albatross (34:06):
well.
Kristen O'Meara (34:07):
I love it.
So it's a flower essence societyin Nevada City, California, and
I love their essences.
So I chose two.
I was looking for somethingmaybe different, and I'm like,
Oh, you! You mentionedchamomile, that one and another
one that I wasn't sure about,but did you, so you like the
essence?
Albatross (34:25):
Yes, I absolutely love it.
Um, so I've been taking it outwith me and I, I just go and I
have tea with my chamomile plantand I add the essence into my
tea while I'm sitting and thenI'll meditate.
Um, and cross over into thespirit world to have a
conversation with Cam and Neilthat day.
If she's there, someday she's,she's not willing to talk to me.
(34:49):
And that's usually when I don'twater her.
Kristen O'Meara (34:51):
Yes.
Yes.
And you know, we learn aboutplant communication.
Some plants are, you know, ittakes a long time to develop a
relationship.
It's like developing arelationship with a person,
right?
Albatross (35:05):
Yep.
It's a person or another animal.
They have their ownpersonalities.
Kristen O'Meara (35:10):
Yeah.
Albatross (35:11):
Some of them can be a little bit more difficult to
work with than others.
But I have found Chamomile to bea really good, um, beginner one.
Because she is very open andnurturing.
There's a motherly aspect toher, um, and I just find it so
wonderful that her flowers kindof come out in this.
This crown around the gold ofthe sun.
(35:35):
So we have like this sun crownhappening and I just find her so
beautiful.
I
Kristen O'Meara (35:43):
love chamomile.
It is like this motherly, liketucking you in, in bed,
Albatross (35:48):
another really great plant for stress reduction, um,
and just nurturing the soul.
Kristen O'Meara (35:55):
Yes, yes.
What are some of your favoriteplants and what you've learned
from them?
Albatross (36:02):
Well, so I'm totally obsessed with chamomile right
now, because that's who I'mworking with.
But I adore sage as well.
Peppermint is a really greatplant and Lemon balm.
Yes,
Kristen O'Meara (36:21):
I love lemon balm.
It's
Albatross (36:24):
so light and bright.
Um, it's just really likepotent, but they're all really
good.
And maybe, maybe this is a signfor me, but they're all really
good stress relieving herbs.
Um, and I guess we could throwin lavender there too, but I
haven't been successful withgrowing lavender yet.
(36:47):
It's very, um.
It's very difficult for me tofind the right temperature.
And we have, um, direct sun thatjust kind of beats down on the
spot that I have all my plantsin, so they're, they're
constantly being harassed by thesun.
So, yeah, I, those are some ofmy favorites.
(37:10):
They're super easy if anybodywants to develop a relationship
with them.
So they're all kind of in thegood beginner land.
And they're usually somethingthat you have available to you
in your garden already, or maybeeven in your kitchen.
And they're super accessiblethrough the grocery store, or
through a, reputable website.
(37:32):
sustainable organic plant,source.
Kristen O'Meara (37:35):
Yeah.
How would you start for folkswho don't know much about plant
communication or developing arelationship with a plant?
How, what do you recommendpeople do?
Say that they're always beendrawn to roses and they have
roses in their, in their garden.
What would you recommend?
Albatross (37:53):
Yeah, sure.
Um, so if you have roses in yourgarden, that's great.
Um, what I would suggest isyou're building that
relationship by helping tonurture them.
So you can start on a purelyphysical level like, um, I do
with my chamomile.
So make sure the plant iscomfortable, that it's getting
(38:13):
all the light in the water thatit needs, that it's flourishing.
Um, and then you can just kindof sit with the plant and think
about the colors.
that the plant has, um, and whatthose colors mean to you, just
take a moment of mindfulnessand, and ask yourself, you know,
what is it that draws you tothis plant?
(38:36):
Like, what is the energy thatyou get?
Why do you feel joy?
Or what is the spark that hasaligned you to that plant?
Um, and then just simply say,thank you.
Every day.
And, and that's a great way tostart
Kristen O'Meara (38:51):
you're developing that relationship and
you're kind of developing a kindof energetic link, like you're
being mindfully aware of theroad.
And slowing down and seeing thecolor, like you said, and taking
care of the plants, spendingtime out there.
Albatross (39:08):
Yeah.
Removing the distractions andgiving yourself that time, that
moment to kind of be in thatspace to be fully present.
And you know, thank you.
Gratitude goes a really long wayto starting a relationship with
humans or plants.
Yeah.
Kristen O'Meara (39:24):
It's just, it's just like being thoughtful,
right?
Yes.
They're a living being.
Albatross (39:31):
Yep, you're, they're a living being and you're a
living being and you just kindof find this, this common
ground.
And then if you're comfortablewith it you can start meditating
with the plant.
I usually do still meditationbut you could do a walking
meditation as well.
don't take your plant with you.
(39:54):
Especially if they're planted inthe ground, that's not a great
idea.
Um, but you could if you hadlike, um, the leaves of the
plant, um, or if you had tea,you could certainly take that on
a walking meditation with you,
Kristen O'Meara (40:09):
right?
Albatross (40:10):
I like to do still meditation.
So what I do is I, I just sitand.
I release my ego, release theself, and I kind of envision
myself in a grove, surrounded bytrees and plants.
And then I kind of wait to seethe plant in that space.
(40:32):
And so, um, I can visualize itin that grove, growing in that
space.
And then I'll just go over andinteract with the spirit.
Kristen O'Meara (40:42):
Oh, I love that.
So you're creating your ownguided meditation, I love that.
Albatross (40:47):
I have found it to be the easiest way to access that
energy.
Um, as well as to just rechargemyself because when I step into
that space, that spirit space, Iknow that it's safe and it's
comfortable and that I am a partof it.
And I can absorb that energy tobring back kind of as a good
(41:08):
recharging, which is basicallyall that I do in my work is the
idea is to recharge yourenergetic body.
No, we, we return to nature, weunderstand nature and in, in
doing so we can return toourselves.
Kristen O'Meara (41:25):
And that's exactly what I was doing without
knowing what I was doing withthe gardening.
But it became a necessity for mewhen I was divorced and lived in
on a property for about 10years.
And gardening was an everydaything.
And I, it, it gave me so much,it wasn't.
(41:49):
Something else to do.
It was my way of resetting.
It was my way of being with thebeauty and with mother earth and
being a part of it and I wasjust basically, um, like you
said, recharging.
Becoming inspired.
(42:10):
I had a lot of magical momentswith hummingbirds and learning
about the connection with otherliving beings as I was raising a
child with autism, you know,just being able to go to my
garden and, uh, not escaping.
Although I think sure there weretimes where I was just like, Oh,
(42:31):
this is where I just need to behere.
But it was teaching me to knowthat there's so much more, I
think, like what the channelingsaid, there was so much more to
the hard days or so much more tothe challenges.
There's so much beauty.
It was this cycle of day andnight and watching the plants
(42:51):
from, from spring to winter andseeing the, Oh my gosh, this is
popping up here.
I didn't plant that there.
Or what is this new plant?
It just was, it was so healing.
for me at that time.
It was a, it was a challengingbut beautiful time.
Albatross (43:10):
Yeah, um, the garden has always given me so much and
I think you said it reallybeautifully.
Like, it just does remind you tobe present and I think being
able to see the cycle, you know,being able to watch life because
plants have a shorter life thanwe do.
(43:31):
Um, so you can kind of get apicture, a big picture of, um,
The web, right, and everythingthat is in that and in the
cyclical nature of things andsometimes by seeing that your
problems can seem so small.
Yes.
Even though they're not, they,in relationship, it's easy to
(43:53):
kind of step back and say, youknow, Okay, this is okay.
Like, it will be okay because
Kristen O'Meara (43:59):
I think we get a bigger perspective, don't we?
Albatross (44:02):
We do.
And there's that promise too,the promise of new life.
Yeah.
Because when your plant doesdie, Right, there is something
else that is going to come inand take that place.
So we kind of get anappreciation for the fact that
right now we might be in thisdeath stage.
No, there might be all of thisturmoil and this pain and it is
(44:27):
a shedding and it is letting goand But there is a promise that
that will be a new seed, youknow, it has laid seed, it is
going to be a new plant and thatthere is more to come, that the
story hasn't ended, it's just anew chapter that has started.
And so plants really kind ofoffer us that beautiful look at
(44:48):
life and allows us to kind ofpull out a little bit from.
Where we are to kind of see thatbig picture,
Kristen O'Meara (44:56):
right?
And it's such a mirror to haveour own lives and our own self
development and growth andhealing.
The more we tend to ourselves,like our garden, right?
Our own inner garden and howmany possibilities there are,
how much potential there is whenwe, take care of ourselves and
(45:18):
give ourselves that self careand that love.
Thank you.
and self compassion.
Um, we grow more, flowers, weallow for more life to be shared
with us.
Um, our, we're, our roots getstronger, right?
Our branches get wider.
Yep.
It just, I have an image of likea tree, like an oak tree, and I
(45:40):
was inspired because these aremy oak, my oak.
Albatross (45:43):
Yes, I saw them.
I love them.
Kristen O'Meara (45:45):
Um, just like the more we tend to our garden
and take care of ourselves, ourinner garden, we can support
ourselves, but we also can't.
Be more available to our lovedones and our community.
I just find that reallyinteresting to the garden and
plants have so much to teach us,not just direct communication,
(46:07):
but just they're show they'reshowing us, uh, how to live life
in a way.
Albatross (46:14):
Because it is, it is so large, it can be kind of
overwhelming of a concept to, tokind of like, pin down.
Um, but, they're offering us somuch, um, in that.
And, you know, thinking aboutthe, the Oak Treaty that you
mentioned.
(46:34):
And oak trees roots are just aslarge as its canopy, its upper
branches.
So, they are You know, thelarger you grow, the more roots
you have, so the more stable youare, but also the further
outreach that you have, likethere's so much symbology that
we can kind of dig into and, andto find the stories that they
(47:00):
have to offer us.
We just have to listen.
You know, that's it.
We just have to be still for amoment and listen.
And all of this knowledge ishere for us.
Kristen O'Meara (47:10):
All of it.
And there's so many creativeways, right?
Like Live Oak growing up,growing up on an island off the
coast of Georgia, we had so manyLive Oaks as you have there, or
you are in the Carolinas andman, that's a big tree for me.
It's, it's, it's, it was, therewas one right outside our front
door practically and my brotherand I would.
(47:32):
Climb on Live Oaks because, youknow, they, they branch out so
wide.
Yeah,
Albatross (47:36):
they branch out with their low branches.
They're great, like, uh, treehouses.
Yeah.
You can sit on them and havepicnics.
Kristen O'Meara (47:43):
So, you know, something that we can all do and
something that I've been drawnto do for the last few years is
to have pictures of my favoriteplants and, and have, you know,
like if I see oak leaves on theground, just bring them inside
and, and what do you do to keepinspired?
I know you have your garden, butwhat would you like to do?
Albatross (48:04):
Sure, so I have plants all over my house.
So, um, I make sure that I bringthem in.
And then I am really obsessedwith windows.
With what?
With windows.
Oh, windows, yes.
So I often don't keep my windowsclosed.
I mean, I live in a privatespace.
(48:25):
I live out on a farm, so it'seasier for me, I understand, but
I make sure that all my windowsare open all the time so I can
constantly see outside and I canfeel like I'm in that space.
So that's a really big one forme.
I don't ever want to feelconfined, so I want to be able
to see outside.
(48:45):
And then by bringing the plantsin, it kind of creates more of
an illusion for me that I'moutside.
Yeah.
Um, so that really brings mejoy.
Um, I have, it's funny youmention it, but I do have a
picture of the maple that wasgrowing up in my childhood
(49:06):
backyard that I was, I wasreally, really attached to.
And I actually cried when wemoved out.
of my childhood home because Iknew I would never see this tree
again.
It, it changed, I mean, itchanged my life and it made me
who I am.
Yeah.
That relationship is soimportant to me.
Um, so I go back and I talk tohim all the time.
(49:27):
It was a maple tree.
Kristen O'Meara (49:29):
Oh.
And I
Albatross (49:30):
do have a picture in my, in my office here with it.
And anytime that I feel likeI've, you know, I've lost my
way, or um, that I just need agood like return moment.
I go to that tree, I go to thatpicture, and I just remind
myself of of where I came fromand how far I've come.
(49:54):
And it's a good like, cheer onmoment for me.
Just to remember that the storyis ever unfolding.
Um, but yeah, it's a great placeto remind you of your roots.
So if you need something likethat, I highly suggest of a
plant that meant something toyou.
Yes, I love it.
Kristen O'Meara (50:14):
So inspiring.
Albatross (50:16):
And then, I mean, I'm a little bit of a plant weirdo,
but, so I have a whole bunch ofdried herbs that I use, and I
use them in ritual.
Um, I'll offer them an offeringon my altar, um, or use them to
make a loose incense blend ifI'm, I'm getting ready to sit
down and do like real spiritualwork.
(50:39):
So I'll, I'll use that to kindof set my sacred space and to
offer to my altar, and thensometimes I'll take those out to
the fairies.
Kristen O'Meara (50:49):
Oh my gosh.
We need to have a separateepisode just for the, the
deGrom,
Albatross (50:54):
I just put a, uh, fairy door in my garden.
Oh.
And I'm really excited.
Oh, I love it.
And I, I left them all sorts ofthings.
I left them bread and flowersand some alcohol, and I'm, I'm
really hoping that maybe we canattract a brownie or something
to our home.
Kristen O'Meara (51:13):
Oh, I just love it.
And for, can you give us alittle, before we close, can you
just tell us a little bit about,about the Devik Realm?
Because I think it's veryimportant.
I feel like we need to mentionthis aspect of, of being with
and working with plants.
Albatross (51:31):
Sure.
Um, so the.
fairies or the, the Devik realm,um, they're very much entwined
with our plant brothers andsisters.
So they, they use them as homesmost often.
And we see that specificallywith Hawthorne trees, but
they're really everywhere andthey create little burrows and
homes and bushes and trees.
(51:52):
So whenever you're approaching aplant, it's always really kind
to also acknowledge the factthat you might be approaching a
home for a fairy.
And just being mindful that youmight be in somebody's backyard.
I think that's like my biggesttakeaway for working with
fairies, um, because if youoffend them, it might not be so
(52:14):
great.
Um, and we're not all hawthorntrees who have great connections
with them.
What kind of I'm telling you my
Kristen O'Meara (52:21):
story of, um, seeing a gnome, a garden gnome,
uh, a smaller looking man.
Um, this was, gosh, this wasprobably about 10 years ago and
I was not quite in the space of,asking for permission before
moving plants.
(52:41):
Um, so, yeah.
You know, asking for permissionbefore I cut plants, I was still
early on in my development.
This was probably 10 or 12 yearsago.
And I was transplanting ormoving some plants around and he
was very, he popped in.
Several times.
It was very insistent on meleaving certain plants and me,
(53:06):
you know, planting more rosesand doing certain things.
And he was in my life for, Iwould say for a good summer.
And then I didn't see him veryoften, but I felt him.
And he taught me so much aboutplants and about respect and
about, cause I knewintellectually, sure.
(53:27):
They're a living being.
He But I, I wasn't getting, youknow, my part in it, my physical
part in it.
Um, so yeah, it was a big lessonfor me.
Albatross (53:40):
They, they can be really great allies if you can
kind of connect with them likeyou have.
Um, I haven't had that privilegeyet.
My, my husband has seen them.
He, he, um.
He actually saw a gnomeunderneath one of the oak trees
that we have next to us.
It was actually hisgrandparent's house.
(54:01):
Oh.
So there is a gnome that livesthere.
Um, so he goes and he, he's ableto talk to him, but he's more of
like a protector of that spaceand of that oak tree.
Um, but yeah, it's, it's just,it's really important to be
(54:21):
mindful that we are not the onlyones.
There are other spirits and, um,inhabitants here that we share
space with, and if you're goingto start working with plants,
you know, if that's somethingthat you're wanting to do, you
know, gratitude, I said, is agreat place to start, but also
(54:44):
mindfulness and, and askingpermission.
No.
Can I, is this okay?
And, and some people ask, like,how will I know, like, if it is
okay, right?
Unable to see a fairy or aspirit to communicate with it,
how do I know?
And you can kind of just feelit, you know, your intuition
(55:06):
will tell you.
It will be a very strong yes orno.
So it's not anything that's kindof left to ambiguity.
You can really truly feel it.
Kristen O'Meara (55:17):
It's a, it's a clairsentience experience.
Like when I go out dandelionpicking, um, for Ruby, our
tortoise, who loves dandelions,I ask, and I get no's a lot.
I do too.
I get one, like one flower here,and then I keep going.
And luckily we have a hugefield, um, that I can do this,
(55:38):
but I get a lot of no's.
Yeah,
Albatross (55:42):
I do too.
And, and I'm grateful for thatbecause if I didn't have that
guidance, I feel like though Itry to be mindful of
sustainability and I try to bemindful of how I'm interacting
in that space.
Sometimes, on a different level,you don't quite know what that
ecosystem is looking like.
(56:04):
So, that having that intuition,and just having a moment and
asking.
Like, I can look at a field, andif there's one flower, yeah,
obviously I know not to pickthat flower, right?
So I'm not gonna just, ifthere's one, I'm not gonna do
it.
But, and that's on my visuallevel, but if there's more than
(56:26):
them, I might be inclined tosay, okay, I could take, you
know, two or three or, or five,depending on what it looks like,
but then the other ones mightnot have great root systems, or
they might have bugs who areeating them.
So it's always having thatmindful check in with that
ecosystem, with that space, withthe Devic realm.
(56:47):
Now in saying, you know, can Itake this?
That's a good precautionarystep.
Kristen O'Meara (56:53):
It's good manners.
Albatross (56:57):
Yeah, very good manners.
Just be polite.
Kristen O'Meara (57:00):
Yeah, just be polite.
I just love that.
Well, I want to have folks knowa little bit about your website.
Can you, can you brieflyexplain?
I know you've mentioned some ofthe services, but I love how
you've categorized them intodifferent phases of the moon.
Is that right?
Albatross (57:20):
Yes.
Um, so on my website, all of my.
Products that you'll find arelisted under different phases of
the moon for the different eightenergies that are associated
with that moon phase.
So we have the full moon and thenew moon, which people are used
to seeing.
But then you'll also see listedthe vanishing moon, and that's
(57:41):
our waning moon.
And then you'll see the wakingmoon, which is what I call our,
um, waxing moon.
So it's waking up, it's gettinglarger.
And in my practice, those arethe terms that I use just
because it's very folk innature.
So I can understand.
what the visual is that ishappening with the moon.
(58:04):
But each of those phases has adifferent energy and a different
element, a different energeticbody that's associated with it.
So I have organized all of myproducts into those energies so
that you can easily navigate tothe energy that will work for
(58:24):
you in the situation that you'relooking, um, to enhance.
So it be it spiritual work or inyourself, if you know that
you're a water element, you cango right to the new moon.
Or if you know you're a fireelement, you can go to the full
moon.
Or if you're looking to add thatelement to your work, you can go
(58:45):
there.
So I've kind of categorizedeverything so it's easy to find
for your intention.
Kristen O'Meara (58:52):
And when you have a session like I had with
you, you were, uh, guiding me toknow, but I, I believe my, um,
was waking the waking room
Albatross (59:02):
to
Kristen O'Meara (59:05):
understand.
And that really brought anotherlayer to.
To the work and to the medicine.
Albatross (59:12):
So I I'll let everybody know where they are,
but, um, if you haven't had asession with me and you don't
know, you can still kind ofnavigate to using your own
intuition and knowing theelement and what you want to
add.
Kristen O'Meara (59:26):
I love it.
Well, you're offering us somuch, so much to reconnect with
ourselves, to the earth, to allof our brothers and sisters,
like you said, um, to That arearound us, not just the plants
and animals, but there's a lotof life like we were talking
about with the Devon ground.
There's a lot of life that wedon't necessarily, we may feel
(59:48):
it but we may not see it.
So, I really appreciate all thatyou're giving us.
Albatross (59:54):
Yeah, thank you.
It's brought so much to my lifeto share my gift and way of
being able to interact, and itjust means the world to me that
I'm able to help people.
And bring them some peace.
So,
Kristen O'Meara (01:00:12):
well, you've helped me and I encourage
everyone who is listening to, tomeet you, to reach out to you
and to learn about what you haveto offer.
Albatross (01:00:22):
You can go to my website, which is www.
featherbeapothecary.
com.
Um, or you can follow me onInstagram, which is at
featherbeapothecary.
Um, both of those sites I'mreally active on.
So you'll be able to reach outto me.
On my website, I just launched anew free ebook on self care and
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balance and some of the plantallies that you can use to bring
a little bit more self care andbalance into your life.
So that's something that you canfind on my website as a free
download resource if you'relooking to get started.
Kristen O'Meara (01:00:56):
I love that.
Well, I'll link everything inthe show notes.
I'll make sure that that I leteveryone know about the ebook
and that's a very generousoffering from you and I'm just
very happy to see your face.
Yes.
And I'm so glad that you came tojoin us and yes, for everyone
who's listening, have awonderful week and much love.
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Take care.
Hello, everyone, and welcome to
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Intuition Talks.
I am Kristen O'Meara, and I amhere with my lovely new friend,
Casey Albatross.
Casey.
How are you today?
Albatross (00:13):
I'm doing really, well.
Um, today's been a quiet day, soI was able to actually get out
into my garden and spend sometime with my plants.
I was able to get a harvest ofsome holy basil, which I'm so
excited about because I can'twait to make a tea with the
flowers and the leaves.
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Um, so I've been blessed thismorning with a whole bunch of
them to start drying so I canuse it in tea.
Kristen O'Meara (00:41):
Oh, I just love, love holy basil.
I, it's probably the onetincture that I use that helps
me with stress.
Albatross (00:51):
It's huge for stress relief.
It's a, it just helps promotewell being and the feeling of
joy because the flower smell isso sweet.
You can kind of almost just, nomatter where you are, you can
feel like you're sitting in ameadow of these flowers.
Kristen O'Meara (01:09):
It's a very special plant, and it has a long
history, too.
It
Albatross (01:13):
really does.
It goes all the way back toIndia.
Kristen O'Meara (01:16):
Yes.
Albatross (01:17):
In Ayurvedic medicine.
Kristen O'Meara (01:19):
Are they medicine?
I love it.
Well, folks, I want to introduceyou to Albatross and give you a
sense of her background.
And of course, we're going tolearn more about Albatross as we
continue our conversation today,albatross is an educator in
pharmacological studies at thecollege level and an apprentice
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clinical herbalist beyond heracademic endeavors.
She harnesses her innatemetaphysical talents as a
spiritual herbalist and wellnesscoach.
She crafts bespoke herbal kitsaimed at facilitating authentic
living, healing andmanifestation.
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Albatross is unique ability tosense and perceive tree energies
significantly informs herholistic healing approaches and
energy reading coaching andproduct formulations.
But before we jump in to yourstory and working with plants, I
have a channeling for you.
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And I received it this morning.
I'm
Albatross (02:27):
so excited.
Kristen O'Meara (02:28):
Yes.
And this is the message to you,Albatross, and for folks who are
listening today.
Albatross, you are glorious tobehold.
We see you identifying manythings.
We see you identifying theplants, the trees, the grasses,
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and other aspects of your lifefor the benefit of you and for
all who will be coming to you topartake in your wisdom and your
grace.
To serve man and woman kind andthe spirits who are linked with
all of you in the web of life.
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You see, your journey began at avery young age, an age that set
the wheel in motion for you todiscover who you are in the web
of life.
Who you are in relation with allthe beings that surround you,
you have suffered great lossesand we are with you to help you
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understand that although there,there has been great pain and
sorrow in your life, you aremore than you're suffering.
You know this.
And so do all of the people whoare listening today.
The trials of a human life aresignificant.
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And it is important for you tocontinue circling back to your
place in the web of life.
And that includes all beings wholive with you and what you call
the natural world.
You see, there is no distinctionbetween the world that you
consider living in and thenatural world.
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All is one.
Part of the medicine, Albatross,that you are giving to the world
is to remind people that theyare nature and that there is no
distinction or separation to bemade.
You are here as a masterteacher, and we see you so
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clearly holding a great staff, agreat staff of a tree that you
know well.
A staff that was given to you,not taken without awareness, and
that staff, even though it ismovable and wieldable, it is
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connected deeply to the centerof the earth.
We see you with a beautifulcloak of self compassion and
self understanding, a cloak thatholds you and gives you warmth,
but a cloak that also remindsyou of the trials and
tribulations of a human life.
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Thank you.
So that you can continue weavingyour magic and distilling it as
medicine for those who resonatewith you and your vibration to
know that they are more thanthey're suffering, that they are
more than being a human being.
And that they are more than thelife that they're living in
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modernity.
With your staff and cloak andmedicine, we congratulate you
and we thank you for yourservice.
There are many beings thathumans do not believe have a
voice.
And you know these voices verywell.
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Voices from the plant and animalkingdom.
You are giving the plant kingdoma voice.
You are connecting that voice tohumans so that they know that
they have brothers and sistersin the plant kingdom to help
them.
And they will learn throughtheir connections with the plant
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kingdom that they are stewardsand brothers and sisters of what
is considered the natural world.
You are playing a part to helpheal.
You are playing a part to helpReunite all spirit in the web of
life so that all spiritremembers that there is no
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separation and that suffering isnot the entire story.
The plants feel you when youcome near them.
They know who you are and theyapplaud you as we do.
Know in your heart that this isthe truth and know in your heart
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that the medicine that you brew,the medicine that you give with
your love and wisdom andawareness touches many.
We are excited to see your pathunfold and we are excited to see
how others paths unfold as youtouch and continue to make
ripples of light.
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and awareness in the web oflife.
We are with you, dear one, andwe love you.
Albatross (07:51):
That's powerful.
Thank you.
Kristen O'Meara (07:54):
You're welcome.
Did that resonate with you?
Albatross (07:59):
Absolutely.
There is so much in there on mybeliefs and how I interact, um,
with the plant world and thespirit world.
And yes, I do actually have astaff that's made out of it.
Kristen O'Meara (08:16):
I love it.
Albatross (08:18):
And I do, I carry it with me to events.
Um, and it's a huge part of myspiritual work when I travel to
the other side, um, to interact.
Kristen O'Meara (08:29):
I had no idea.
I love it.
I love it.
Well, I was sharing with youbefore we hit record and I was
like, I wonder who's going tocome through.
This was before I channeled themessage and I got milk thistle.
Oh, wow.
So, and I was thinking like, youknow, I haven't channeled
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plants.
I've channeled animals, but Ihaven't channeled plants.
And I was like, well, so they'reliving beings.
They have a consciousness.
But it was really interestingand for folks who are like,
really milk thistle, you'rechanneling a plant.
So what?
When you channel higher forms ofconsciousness, they are that
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energy, that vibration isworking with your mind and your
aura.
And you have your own vocabularyas a, as a human being.
So they're able to work withthat vocabulary.
They're able to access the wordsthat I know.
And sometimes I get words thatwere like, I have to look them
(09:36):
up.
Like, I don't know that word.
Yeah.
But I'm like, what is that word?
And I'm like, is that real?
So I, you know, look it up.
I'm like, wow, that's a realword.
It's really old.
But it's, it's there.
So they use our, our vocabularyand they, they help us to bring
that message through.
So milk thistle.
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I don't know if you have a, ifyou're a friend of milk thistle.
Um, but I thought that wasreally interesting.
Albatross (10:05):
So I haven't developed a one on one
relationship with milk thistle.
What I do know is that it'samazing for women.
Um, it's a strong protector ofthe home and the hearth.
Kristen O'Meara (10:16):
So
Albatross (10:18):
it makes sense because it's so, my practice is
so close to my home and myspiritual space, which is my
garden, which I consider kind ofmy hearth.
Kristen O'Meara (10:28):
Yes.
Albatross (10:30):
So, I could see why milk thistle would come through.
That's
Kristen O'Meara (10:35):
interesting.
Albatross (10:36):
It's beautiful.
Kristen O'Meara (10:37):
Oh, well I'm glad that you liked it, and I
think milk thistle, and you ofcourse.
So, so let's start with whatbrought you into this work.
Albatross (10:50):
Sure.
So I actually started when I wasvery, very young, as you, you're
talking about.
Channeling brought through.
Um, but the earliest that Iremember is actually going out
to my grandfather's gardenbecause he was, he farmed, they
had a farm that they kind ofrented and he got some of that
from them.
But I remember going out withhim to the plants and he taught
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me how to talk to them.
Kristen O'Meara (11:16):
Oh, I remember you telling me that.
That's so amazing.
Albatross (11:20):
So it all kinda came from my grandfather who, who
passed that on to me and then.
You know, I just made more andmore friends out in the field.
So that's where they couldalways find me.
Um, but you know, as, as you getolder and you grow apart from
that, you become more a part ofthe human realm and, you know,
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in school it wasn't, as cool togo hang out with the plants, you
know?
Kristen O'Meara (11:48):
Yeah.
Albatross (11:49):
Um, so as I got older I, I did kind of find that I was
programmed to find some distanceand I think that's true for most
of us.
Um, but then after a few yearsof about when I was 22, 23, um,
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I was really lost.
I had lost my mother to cancerand I had spent several years
after college taking care of herand kind of putting myself to
the wayside.
Um, I was supposed to leave togo to a graduate program in the
UK, but that just wasn'tpossible because I needed to
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stay home to care for my mother.
And when she left, I kind offelt this loss of everything.
Loss of home, loss of a guidingstar, just, I felt completely
and utterly alone.
And I, I was trying to find Thebest path back right to return
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to myself and because Iultimately realized that I
couldn't live for anybody elseanymore that I really truly
needed to live for myselfbecause I had spent so many
years actually just not notdoing that so discussed
disconnected.
Um, so the way that I kind offound my way home was to find my
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plant friends again, and.
I was actually reading a verybeautiful book, Braiding
Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmer,and I found this quote where
she's talking about how shetaught her, her daughter's
gardening.
Because when she's gone, they'llstill have a mother.
Oh.
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It's, it's so beautiful and, andconnects me to, you know, it was
absolutely exactly what I feelwhen I go out to my garden, to
my plants, you know, MotherEarth is still here.
Kristen O'Meara (13:56):
Yes.
Albatross (13:57):
My mother may be gone in physical form, but her spirit
is still here.
And, um, Her father is thegrandfather I'm talking about
who spoke to me and taught mehow to, to speak to the plants.
So it comes through that line.
So ancestrally, they're stillhere with me.
Kristen O'Meara (14:15):
Of course.
Albatross (14:17):
And their lessons and their legacy live on through me
in this work that I've beendoing.
So I've, I've walked for a longtime kind of feeling like, Um,
because I work in healthcare andpharmaceuticals, uh, science,
like you were talking aboutearlier.
So I felt like I was walkingthrough this world that was ever
so off in vibration.
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And it was, you just feel likeyou're walking through a cloud
and it's not quite aligning.
And you're like, what is it?
Everything seems weird.
Kristen O'Meara (14:50):
Yeah.
Albatross (14:51):
As soon as I like switched over and I started
looking at.
more Eastern practices, Easternbody, the energetic body, um,
the spiritual herbalism, it justkind of clicked.
So my world became a little lessfuzzy, more aligned, and, and
then now I'm here.
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So I started, uh, Feather BeeApothecary in 2018, and I've
been going strong since thenwith my different product lines.
And here recently, I've decidedthat I'm going to That's all
good.
Um, but I really want to talk topeople and make a difference for
individuals.
So I have opened up my wellnesscoaching that I really hope to
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take off and I call it rewildinginstead of wellness coaching.
Kristen O'Meara (15:42):
Yeah.
Tell us about that.
Cause I love the rewilding.
Albatross (15:46):
Yeah.
So that programming that I wastalking to you about, um, when I
was telling my story, I feellike And we, we find this kind
of terminology in human designand in a few other, like,
Eastern medicine, we find thisprogramming or deprogramming
kind of terminology or beliefsystems would be another way of
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saying it, but we've developedthese ways of acting these ways
of being that have sort of Theyhave supported us through
different situations, um, but welater on find out that they're
really not the best adaptions.
They're not the best beliefs tohave, um, so we really need to
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deprogram ourselves to get awayfrom that.
And that's what I call ourwilding.
So we knew when we were little,like I knew when I was five
years old what I was supposed tobe doing.
And I just did it naturally.
There was no There was nothought, there was no block,
there was no idea that it mightbe wrong or that somebody might
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laugh at me for it, right?
Yeah,
Kristen O'Meara (16:57):
no doubt.
Albatross (16:59):
There was no doubt.
Yeah, the ego
Kristen O'Meara (17:00):
wasn't like saying, oh, it's not safe to go
outside this boundary, yeah.
Albatross (17:05):
Right, there was nothing there, there was no
block there.
Um, but then as I got older, youknow, you're like, oh, maybe
not.
And that's that programming, soI want us all to get back to our
wild, inner selves that knowexactly, that intuitive self,
because your soul knows, yoursoul came here with its plan and
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its path, and your soul knowswhere you need to be.
So our, if we can just rewildand let go a little bit, We can
get back there.
So that's why I call himrewilding.
Kristen O'Meara (17:39):
I love it.
It just reminds me of a wildforest, you know, or that's both
words are kind of the same, butthis forest that or field,
something that is.
For the most part left alone,you know, uh, there isn't any
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like what you said thatprogramming there isn't any, um,
structures built there to servea purpose.
It's just there and reconnectingthe folks that you are working
with.
To that space that is wild, thathas so much potential that has
so many possibilities that'sconnected to like the channeling
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the web of life to remember thatwe're nature, that we're a part
of that.
And there's an illusion that,um, and a lot of folks know
this, but you know, our house iskind of like, It provides
shelter, safety, um, there arethings that of course,
gathering, family gathering, butit's not necessarily our home
home.
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it's kind of an illusion in alot of ways.
Like, for me, when it's nighttime, I think of like, Oh, I
just want to sleep outside.
You know, I just want to walk,take a long walk outside.
And I think that's why there'ssuch a big draw to camping and
to being outside and do this anddo that.
But sometimes our times out innature seem like, and this is a
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broad generalization, but I'mgoing on a rafting trip, I'm
doing this, I'm going camping,but it's stillness involved.
It's kind of like what you said,play recreation, and this is a
generalization and I definitelypartake in that.
But I love the stillness.
I love what you're saying whenyou are with your work, talking
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to the plants and, and gettingthat information and connection.
And I just think it's sobeautiful because we have so
much to learn, don't we?
From the plants.
Albatross (19:38):
We really do.
Um, I consider the plants ourolder brothers and sisters.
Kristen O'Meara (19:42):
Yeah,
Albatross (19:44):
they have been here for much longer than the human
species has been here.
And if you think about it, theykind of have unique
circumstances.
Now, as humans, if we have aproblem, or we encounter
something, we can always move,right?
We can always get away, we canavoid, we have a lot of these
tactics.
Um, but our plant siblings donot have that.
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They had to adapt and overcomein different ways.
They are 100 percent beholden totheir environment.
Kristen O'Meara (20:17):
Yeah.
Albatross (20:18):
Each plant species has learned a different lesson,
and they can share that lessonwith us through either spiritual
work, um, or the physicalingestion.
or use of them as medicine.
So, I mean, it's so, like, mindblowing and powerful to me, just
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to think of how strong the plantspecies is.
And, and they, they put up a lotwith us.
Um, you know, they're quite kindstill for, um, everything that
the human species does.
Um, but they're so kind andgiving and pure, pure light,
pure spirits.
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And, You know, that, thatsharing that wisdom they have
for us is just really, it'sreally immense, really immense.
Kristen O'Meara (21:10):
I want to offer myself up as an example, because
I had a session with you, whichwas incredible in credible,
incredible, and I keep learningabout the tree and the plant
that you identified my
Albatross (21:26):
It's your signature energy, my signature
Kristen O'Meara (21:29):
energy.
Thank you.
So I want folks to reallyunderstand how this works
Albatross (21:34):
sure.
Um, so that particular sessionis what I call tree frequency
guidance.
Um, so when I sit down withsomeone, we're looking at, or
I'm looking at what is theirfrequency, their tree frequency.
And once I get that, I canunderstand a lot about their
energetic body and the lessonsthat that person has come to
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learn, um, in their humanexperience.
And specifically, it tells me alot about where their chakra,
their Energy body pulls from.
Um, and you can kind of think ofthem as overarching.
So, do you mind if I shareyours?
Kristen O'Meara (22:15):
Yes, I want to, because I think it would really
help.
And yeah, when you told me this,all this, I was like, Oh my
gosh, you have looked inside thedepth of my soul.
I've seen.
I loved it.
Albatross (22:30):
And so your, your tree energy is a hawthorn tree
which I find, um, really greatand I love hawthorn trees, but
this morning I was telling you Ipulled some cards about our
session today and through myoracle deck the hawthorn tree
fell out and I was like, I knowI'm going to see her.
Kristen O'Meara (22:48):
I love it.
Albatross (22:49):
So the synchronicities, you can't make
this stuff up, um, but so you'rea hawthorn tree and Hawthorne
tree, if we think about theseplants or these trees, energies
that you align with, they'rekind of an umbrella.
So they give me an idea of wheresomebody is going to be pulling
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their energy from.
And by understanding the botanyof the plant, the physical
attributes of it, but then I canalso kind of work with its
spiritual aspects.
So we're kind of merging the twoto understand the person from a
holistic point of view, theenergetic body and the physical
body, because our energeticbody, if we leave it for a long
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time, if we encounter issues orwe have excess of energy in
different places, the, it willreflect in the physical body.
Which is amazing to me becausethe human body is so complex and
just an amazing creation.
Oh.
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On two, on two different levels.
So that's my biology nerdshowing.
But so we get an idea of wherethose energies are pulling and
specifically for Hawthornetrees, the biggest is going to
be the heart chakra.
Kristen O'Meara (24:12):
As
Albatross (24:12):
we look at the Hawthorne tree, we can use that,
and it is used, has been usedfor centuries, as a cardiac aid.
Um, so heart aid.
Um, so that's going to be likethe biggest draw, but then if we
also look at the hawthorn tree,we know we have some red berries
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going on, and the red kind oftells us a lot about the root,
but also kind of leading backinto the cardiovascular system.
So we have all of that going on.
So I know Hawthorne trees, if welook at them as an umbrella,
we're going to have those twoenergy centers.
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that are working overtime.
So a person who is a hawthorntree is going to be giving a lot
from their heart and a lot fromtheir root.
So they're, they're going to benurturing, caring, kind people
who are really focused onbuilding home, setting space,
and making sure that it's stableand secure.
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So that's kind of the umbrellaof hawthorn trees.
And then Underneath that eachindividual is going to be
different because not everyHawthorne tree is the same.
Right.
With that, I'll use my intuitivegift to see what are the other
layers that are going on withthis person.
And then how can we start tofeed those energetic centers so
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that we can find alignment, wecan find personal growth, and
we're not depleted.
We're not getting into a placewhere we're just so fatigued and
tired and stressed because we'vegiven all of our energy away.
Kristen O'Meara (25:54):
And that that's my story.
Um, and that's something thatI've been working on for years
in the heart chakra and the rootchakra.
Well, the third two.
Um, definitely what I've workedon to heal, to, to grow more
awareness about, um, a lot ofsurvival issues throughout my
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life, a lot of trauma, uh, theheart, my heart is easily open,
but I can also keep it closed.
And I loved what you said aboutthe Hawthorne with the thorns.
Because having certain traumasin my life, I have created a way
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to, without knowing how toperhaps set boundaries, or not
knowing how to reserve myenergy, or not having that Uh,
not having that awareness.
I've had this, um, way ofkeeping my, myself, uh, perhaps
from getting hurt again.
It's been a protective mechanismof the Thor.
Albatross (26:59):
Yeah, something that's built into you.
Kristen O'Meara (27:02):
Yeah, so it's, I loved Even though I knew a lot
of this from counseling and mywork in energy and my work, um,
in all sorts of areas, I lovedyou bringing in the Hawthorne
tree because it, it gives megoosebumps.
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It's like, oh, I have a very biglove for gardening.
I have for decades.
I love plants.
So it was that, but it also.
validated a lot for me and itgave me another perspective.
It was incredibly rich.
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It was incredibly rich and I wasable to apply it in such a deep
way.
So, and for an example, if Ifeel depleted and I've given a
lot in caregiving, um, I'll goout into the world and I notice
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that.
I can feel kind of closed in,like my heart's kind of shut
down a little bit.
I feel a little prickly.
I, I, I really got a sense of,okay, this is what I'm doing.
So like, okay, I think that the,I think the thorns are out.
I think my heart's kind ofclosed.
Let's smile, you know, and notsee it as me like giving, but
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just me being.
Yes, me just being in joy andthat can be hard to shift in and
out of sometimes when we feellike we've given a lot like
with.
We taking care of a child withautism or my mother or, but you
know, I, and I've beenpracticing, I've been feeling
like, Oh, I can kind of sensethe prickly.
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I can kind of sense that myheart's kind of shut down, like
let's let the light shine, youknow?
So I don't know.
I just found it just really,really deep, deep, powerful
medicine.
Albatross (29:02):
I love the prickly reference.
Um, it's so, it's so perfect forHawthorne's.
Oh,
Kristen O'Meara (29:09):
this is the only way I can reserve.
And it's not true, you know, youknow,
Albatross (29:15):
you, you are in that caretaker space and you're,
you're constantly giving, likewe talked about, you know, you,
you feel depleted, you feel likethere's no room for you.
And oftentimes you feel like aboundary has been crossed, but
you don't, you feel it.
You just don't know what thatboundary was.
And for you, you know, that itis a crossing into your thorns.
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You know, somebody was actuallylike pulling all of your energy
and they were kind of in a waylike touching your soul.
You know, they were depletingyou to that.
Um.
So the natural instinct, you're,you're only protection, right?
Hawthorne trees are susceptibleto their environment.
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They can't go anywhere.
So what do they have to protectthem?
These thorns that they've grown.
Now that, that's one of theadaptions that they have taken
on from their space to, to kindof prevent the, all of their
berries from being eaten so theycan reproduce.
And to continue to give.
Kristen O'Meara (30:19):
Yes.
I just love that.
I love that.
We all need these metaphors.
Not that this medicine is just ametaphor.
It's not.
I can hold the image of thehawthorn tree.
I can hold it and just reallylet it sink in as medicine.
Right, I really and I just feelthe connection.
(30:41):
So thank you.
That was a big gift.
Albatross (30:44):
You're welcome.
The visualization of the treefor you, you can actually have
Hawthorne tea.
We talked about a great tearitual for you.
So, in different cultures.
They tie blessings or wishes onHawthorne trees for the fairies.
(31:05):
Um, so that, that was a reallygood, I enjoyed that one.
Yeah.
Um, and the fact that you have aHawthorne tree nearby is just.
That's awesome.
Kristen O'Meara (31:16):
Yes.
And it's, I think a Western one.
Um, so, but yeah, so that's justa taste folks of, of what it's
like, and it really is.
And it's an in depth session.
It's, it's like what, whatAlbatross is saying.
There's a lot that is beingshared about that.
Yeah.
(31:37):
Yeah.
Perhaps another plan or so on.
So it's, it's fascinating.
What else would you like toshare about your work?
Albatross (31:47):
Oh, um, so we haven't talked about working with spirit
allies yet, or plant spiritallies.
Yes, let's do it.
And they can be used inconjunction if you know your
tree frequency.
But, um, Or, um, you canactually have a house plant
familiar, which I absolutelylove, love to pieces, So the
(32:10):
idea is that you are workingwith the, a plant in your, a
plant that you have out in yourgarden or a house plant that you
have in your house, and you'lljust create a meditation.
And develop a relationship withyour plant and the spirit will
(32:33):
act as an ally for you.
Um, in any kind of healing workthat you're doing or even in
spell work.
Yes.
Kristen O'Meara (32:42):
That, may I ask, so you identified dandelion
as a plant for me.
So is that what you're referringto?
Because I'm feeling, man, Ican't tell you how helpful that
was.
Because the more I learn aboutdandelion, And how that heals
verbally are those issues that Iactually have remarkable.
(33:07):
So I was like, Oh my gosh.
And so I'm drinking dandeliontea when I see them.
I, and I've always been drawn tothem and I, I, but I really like
what you're saying, developing arelationship with spirit.
Albatross (33:20):
So I
Kristen O'Meara (33:21):
love, I love what you're saying about, about
that.
Albatross (33:24):
Yeah, I've actually been, um, developing my, my
current relationship.
I, I want to get to know all ofthe, the plants, um, but I'm
currently working withchamomile, so I'm growing
chamomile out in my garden, um,and I'll just make sure that I
go and I sit with her.
every day for, you know, itdoesn't have to be too long.
(33:45):
I like to set my, my limit atlike five minutes, so I can get
out there, um, kind of prune myplant up, make sure that she's
got all the water that sheneeds, and then I'll kind of sit
with her and, um, You actuallysent me an amazing flower
essence that I've been using
Kristen O'Meara (34:05):
with this as
Albatross (34:06):
well.
Kristen O'Meara (34:07):
I love it.
So it's a flower essence societyin Nevada City, California, and
I love their essences.
So I chose two.
I was looking for somethingmaybe different, and I'm like,
Oh, you! You mentionedchamomile, that one and another
one that I wasn't sure about,but did you, so you like the
essence?
Albatross (34:25):
Yes, I absolutely love it.
Um, so I've been taking it outwith me and I, I just go and I
have tea with my chamomile plantand I add the essence into my
tea while I'm sitting and thenI'll meditate.
Um, and cross over into thespirit world to have a
conversation with Cam and Neilthat day.
If she's there, someday she's,she's not willing to talk to me.
(34:49):
And that's usually when I don'twater her.
Kristen O'Meara (34:51):
Yes.
Yes.
And you know, we learn aboutplant communication.
Some plants are, you know, ittakes a long time to develop a
relationship.
It's like developing arelationship with a person,
right?
Albatross (35:05):
Yep.
It's a person or another animal.
They have their ownpersonalities.
Kristen O'Meara (35:10):
Yeah.
Albatross (35:11):
Some of them can be a little bit more difficult to
work with than others.
But I have found Chamomile to bea really good, um, beginner one.
Because she is very open andnurturing.
There's a motherly aspect toher, um, and I just find it so
wonderful that her flowers kindof come out in this.
This crown around the gold ofthe sun.
(35:35):
So we have like this sun crownhappening and I just find her so
beautiful.
I
Kristen O'Meara (35:43):
love chamomile.
It is like this motherly, liketucking you in, in bed,
Albatross (35:48):
another really great plant for stress reduction, um,
and just nurturing the soul.
Kristen O'Meara (35:55):
Yes, yes.
What are some of your favoriteplants and what you've learned
from them?
Albatross (36:02):
Well, so I'm totally obsessed with chamomile right
now, because that's who I'mworking with.
But I adore sage as well.
Peppermint is a really greatplant and Lemon balm.
Yes,
Kristen O'Meara (36:21):
I love lemon balm.
It's
Albatross (36:24):
so light and bright.
Um, it's just really likepotent, but they're all really
good.
And maybe, maybe this is a signfor me, but they're all really
good stress relieving herbs.
Um, and I guess we could throwin lavender there too, but I
haven't been successful withgrowing lavender yet.
(36:47):
It's very, um.
It's very difficult for me tofind the right temperature.
And we have, um, direct sun thatjust kind of beats down on the
spot that I have all my plantsin, so they're, they're
constantly being harassed by thesun.
So, yeah, I, those are some ofmy favorites.
(37:10):
They're super easy if anybodywants to develop a relationship
with them.
So they're all kind of in thegood beginner land.
And they're usually somethingthat you have available to you
in your garden already, or maybeeven in your kitchen.
And they're super accessiblethrough the grocery store, or
through a, reputable website.
(37:32):
sustainable organic plant,source.
Kristen O'Meara (37:35):
Yeah.
How would you start for folkswho don't know much about plant
communication or developing arelationship with a plant?
How, what do you recommendpeople do?
Say that they're always beendrawn to roses and they have
roses in their, in their garden.
What would you recommend?
Albatross (37:53):
Yeah, sure.
Um, so if you have roses in yourgarden, that's great.
Um, what I would suggest isyou're building that
relationship by helping tonurture them.
So you can start on a purelyphysical level like, um, I do
with my chamomile.
So make sure the plant iscomfortable, that it's getting
(38:13):
all the light in the water thatit needs, that it's flourishing.
Um, and then you can just kindof sit with the plant and think
about the colors.
that the plant has, um, and whatthose colors mean to you, just
take a moment of mindfulnessand, and ask yourself, you know,
what is it that draws you tothis plant?
(38:36):
Like, what is the energy thatyou get?
Why do you feel joy?
Or what is the spark that hasaligned you to that plant?
Um, and then just simply say,thank you.
Every day.
And, and that's a great way tostart
Kristen O'Meara (38:51):
you're developing that relationship and
you're kind of developing a kindof energetic link, like you're
being mindfully aware of theroad.
And slowing down and seeing thecolor, like you said, and taking
care of the plants, spendingtime out there.
Albatross (39:08):
Yeah.
Removing the distractions andgiving yourself that time, that
moment to kind of be in thatspace to be fully present.
And you know, thank you.
Gratitude goes a really long wayto starting a relationship with
humans or plants.
Yeah.
Kristen O'Meara (39:24):
It's just, it's just like being thoughtful,
right?
Yes.
They're a living being.
Albatross (39:31):
Yep, you're, they're a living being and you're a
living being and you just kindof find this, this common
ground.
And then if you're comfortablewith it you can start meditating
with the plant.
I usually do still meditationbut you could do a walking
meditation as well.
don't take your plant with you.
(39:54):
Especially if they're planted inthe ground, that's not a great
idea.
Um, but you could if you hadlike, um, the leaves of the
plant, um, or if you had tea,you could certainly take that on
a walking meditation with you,
Kristen O'Meara (40:09):
right?
Albatross (40:10):
I like to do still meditation.
So what I do is I, I just sitand.
I release my ego, release theself, and I kind of envision
myself in a grove, surrounded bytrees and plants.
And then I kind of wait to seethe plant in that space.
(40:32):
And so, um, I can visualize itin that grove, growing in that
space.
And then I'll just go over andinteract with the spirit.
Kristen O'Meara (40:42):
Oh, I love that.
So you're creating your ownguided meditation, I love that.
Albatross (40:47):
I have found it to be the easiest way to access that
energy.
Um, as well as to just rechargemyself because when I step into
that space, that spirit space, Iknow that it's safe and it's
comfortable and that I am a partof it.
And I can absorb that energy tobring back kind of as a good
(41:08):
recharging, which is basicallyall that I do in my work is the
idea is to recharge yourenergetic body.
No, we, we return to nature, weunderstand nature and in, in
doing so we can return toourselves.
Kristen O'Meara (41:25):
And that's exactly what I was doing without
knowing what I was doing withthe gardening.
But it became a necessity for mewhen I was divorced and lived in
on a property for about 10years.
And gardening was an everydaything.
And I, it, it gave me so much,it wasn't.
(41:49):
Something else to do.
It was my way of resetting.
It was my way of being with thebeauty and with mother earth and
being a part of it and I wasjust basically, um, like you
said, recharging.
Becoming inspired.
(42:10):
I had a lot of magical momentswith hummingbirds and learning
about the connection with otherliving beings as I was raising a
child with autism, you know,just being able to go to my
garden and, uh, not escaping.
Although I think sure there weretimes where I was just like, Oh,
(42:31):
this is where I just need to behere.
But it was teaching me to knowthat there's so much more, I
think, like what the channelingsaid, there was so much more to
the hard days or so much more tothe challenges.
There's so much beauty.
It was this cycle of day andnight and watching the plants
(42:51):
from, from spring to winter andseeing the, Oh my gosh, this is
popping up here.
I didn't plant that there.
Or what is this new plant?
It just was, it was so healing.
for me at that time.
It was a, it was a challengingbut beautiful time.
Albatross (43:10):
Yeah, um, the garden has always given me so much and
I think you said it reallybeautifully.
Like, it just does remind you tobe present and I think being
able to see the cycle, you know,being able to watch life because
plants have a shorter life thanwe do.
(43:31):
Um, so you can kind of get apicture, a big picture of, um,
The web, right, and everythingthat is in that and in the
cyclical nature of things andsometimes by seeing that your
problems can seem so small.
Yes.
Even though they're not, they,in relationship, it's easy to
(43:53):
kind of step back and say, youknow, Okay, this is okay.
Like, it will be okay because
Kristen O'Meara (43:59):
I think we get a bigger perspective, don't we?
Albatross (44:02):
We do.
And there's that promise too,the promise of new life.
Yeah.
Because when your plant doesdie, Right, there is something
else that is going to come inand take that place.
So we kind of get anappreciation for the fact that
right now we might be in thisdeath stage.
No, there might be all of thisturmoil and this pain and it is
(44:27):
a shedding and it is letting goand But there is a promise that
that will be a new seed, youknow, it has laid seed, it is
going to be a new plant and thatthere is more to come, that the
story hasn't ended, it's just anew chapter that has started.
And so plants really kind ofoffer us that beautiful look at
(44:48):
life and allows us to kind ofpull out a little bit from.
Where we are to kind of see thatbig picture,
Kristen O'Meara (44:56):
right?
And it's such a mirror to haveour own lives and our own self
development and growth andhealing.
The more we tend to ourselves,like our garden, right?
Our own inner garden and howmany possibilities there are,
how much potential there is whenwe, take care of ourselves and
(45:18):
give ourselves that self careand that love.
Thank you.
and self compassion.
Um, we grow more, flowers, weallow for more life to be shared
with us.
Um, our, we're, our roots getstronger, right?
Our branches get wider.
Yep.
It just, I have an image of likea tree, like an oak tree, and I
(45:40):
was inspired because these aremy oak, my oak.
Albatross (45:43):
Yes, I saw them.
I love them.
Kristen O'Meara (45:45):
Um, just like the more we tend to our garden
and take care of ourselves, ourinner garden, we can support
ourselves, but we also can't.
Be more available to our lovedones and our community.
I just find that reallyinteresting to the garden and
plants have so much to teach us,not just direct communication,
(46:07):
but just they're show they'reshowing us, uh, how to live life
in a way.
Albatross (46:14):
Because it is, it is so large, it can be kind of
overwhelming of a concept to, tokind of like, pin down.
Um, but, they're offering us somuch, um, in that.
And, you know, thinking aboutthe, the Oak Treaty that you
mentioned.
(46:34):
And oak trees roots are just aslarge as its canopy, its upper
branches.
So, they are You know, thelarger you grow, the more roots
you have, so the more stable youare, but also the further
outreach that you have, likethere's so much symbology that
we can kind of dig into and, andto find the stories that they
(47:00):
have to offer us.
We just have to listen.
You know, that's it.
We just have to be still for amoment and listen.
And all of this knowledge ishere for us.
Kristen O'Meara (47:10):
All of it.
And there's so many creativeways, right?
Like Live Oak growing up,growing up on an island off the
coast of Georgia, we had so manyLive Oaks as you have there, or
you are in the Carolinas andman, that's a big tree for me.
It's, it's, it's, it was, therewas one right outside our front
door practically and my brotherand I would.
(47:32):
Climb on Live Oaks because, youknow, they, they branch out so
wide.
Yeah,
Albatross (47:36):
they branch out with their low branches.
They're great, like, uh, treehouses.
Yeah.
You can sit on them and havepicnics.
Kristen O'Meara (47:43):
So, you know, something that we can all do and
something that I've been drawnto do for the last few years is
to have pictures of my favoriteplants and, and have, you know,
like if I see oak leaves on theground, just bring them inside
and, and what do you do to keepinspired?
I know you have your garden, butwhat would you like to do?
Albatross (48:04):
Sure, so I have plants all over my house.
So, um, I make sure that I bringthem in.
And then I am really obsessedwith windows.
With what?
With windows.
Oh, windows, yes.
So I often don't keep my windowsclosed.
I mean, I live in a privatespace.
(48:25):
I live out on a farm, so it'seasier for me, I understand, but
I make sure that all my windowsare open all the time so I can
constantly see outside and I canfeel like I'm in that space.
So that's a really big one forme.
I don't ever want to feelconfined, so I want to be able
to see outside.
(48:45):
And then by bringing the plantsin, it kind of creates more of
an illusion for me that I'moutside.
Yeah.
Um, so that really brings mejoy.
Um, I have, it's funny youmention it, but I do have a
picture of the maple that wasgrowing up in my childhood
(49:06):
backyard that I was, I wasreally, really attached to.
And I actually cried when wemoved out.
of my childhood home because Iknew I would never see this tree
again.
It, it changed, I mean, itchanged my life and it made me
who I am.
Yeah.
That relationship is soimportant to me.
Um, so I go back and I talk tohim all the time.
(49:27):
It was a maple tree.
Kristen O'Meara (49:29):
Oh.
And I
Albatross (49:30):
do have a picture in my, in my office here with it.
And anytime that I feel likeI've, you know, I've lost my
way, or um, that I just need agood like return moment.
I go to that tree, I go to thatpicture, and I just remind
myself of of where I came fromand how far I've come.
(49:54):
And it's a good like, cheer onmoment for me.
Just to remember that the storyis ever unfolding.
Um, but yeah, it's a great placeto remind you of your roots.
So if you need something likethat, I highly suggest of a
plant that meant something toyou.
Yes, I love it.
Kristen O'Meara (50:14):
So inspiring.
Albatross (50:16):
And then, I mean, I'm a little bit of a plant weirdo,
but, so I have a whole bunch ofdried herbs that I use, and I
use them in ritual.
Um, I'll offer them an offeringon my altar, um, or use them to
make a loose incense blend ifI'm, I'm getting ready to sit
down and do like real spiritualwork.
(50:39):
So I'll, I'll use that to kindof set my sacred space and to
offer to my altar, and thensometimes I'll take those out to
the fairies.
Kristen O'Meara (50:49):
Oh my gosh.
We need to have a separateepisode just for the, the
deGrom,
Albatross (50:54):
I just put a, uh, fairy door in my garden.
Oh.
And I'm really excited.
Oh, I love it.
And I, I left them all sorts ofthings.
I left them bread and flowersand some alcohol, and I'm, I'm
really hoping that maybe we canattract a brownie or something
to our home.
Kristen O'Meara (51:13):
Oh, I just love it.
And for, can you give us alittle, before we close, can you
just tell us a little bit about,about the Devik Realm?
Because I think it's veryimportant.
I feel like we need to mentionthis aspect of, of being with
and working with plants.
Albatross (51:31):
Sure.
Um, so the.
fairies or the, the Devik realm,um, they're very much entwined
with our plant brothers andsisters.
So they, they use them as homesmost often.
And we see that specificallywith Hawthorne trees, but
they're really everywhere andthey create little burrows and
homes and bushes and trees.
(51:52):
So whenever you're approaching aplant, it's always really kind
to also acknowledge the factthat you might be approaching a
home for a fairy.
And just being mindful that youmight be in somebody's backyard.
I think that's like my biggesttakeaway for working with
fairies, um, because if youoffend them, it might not be so
(52:14):
great.
Um, and we're not all hawthorntrees who have great connections
with them.
What kind of I'm telling you my
Kristen O'Meara (52:21):
story of, um, seeing a gnome, a garden gnome,
uh, a smaller looking man.
Um, this was, gosh, this wasprobably about 10 years ago and
I was not quite in the space of,asking for permission before
moving plants.
(52:41):
Um, so, yeah.
You know, asking for permissionbefore I cut plants, I was still
early on in my development.
This was probably 10 or 12 yearsago.
And I was transplanting ormoving some plants around and he
was very, he popped in.
Several times.
It was very insistent on meleaving certain plants and me,
(53:06):
you know, planting more rosesand doing certain things.
And he was in my life for, Iwould say for a good summer.
And then I didn't see him veryoften, but I felt him.
And he taught me so much aboutplants and about respect and
about, cause I knewintellectually, sure.
(53:27):
They're a living being.
He But I, I wasn't getting, youknow, my part in it, my physical
part in it.
Um, so yeah, it was a big lessonfor me.
Albatross (53:40):
They, they can be really great allies if you can
kind of connect with them likeyou have.
Um, I haven't had that privilegeyet.
My, my husband has seen them.
He, he, um.
He actually saw a gnomeunderneath one of the oak trees
that we have next to us.
It was actually hisgrandparent's house.
(54:01):
Oh.
So there is a gnome that livesthere.
Um, so he goes and he, he's ableto talk to him, but he's more of
like a protector of that spaceand of that oak tree.
Um, but yeah, it's, it's just,it's really important to be
(54:21):
mindful that we are not the onlyones.
There are other spirits and, um,inhabitants here that we share
space with, and if you're goingto start working with plants,
you know, if that's somethingthat you're wanting to do, you
know, gratitude, I said, is agreat place to start, but also
(54:44):
mindfulness and, and askingpermission.
No.
Can I, is this okay?
And, and some people ask, like,how will I know, like, if it is
okay, right?
Unable to see a fairy or aspirit to communicate with it,
how do I know?
And you can kind of just feelit, you know, your intuition
(55:06):
will tell you.
It will be a very strong yes orno.
So it's not anything that's kindof left to ambiguity.
You can really truly feel it.
Kristen O'Meara (55:17):
It's a, it's a clairsentience experience.
Like when I go out dandelionpicking, um, for Ruby, our
tortoise, who loves dandelions,I ask, and I get no's a lot.
I do too.
I get one, like one flower here,and then I keep going.
And luckily we have a hugefield, um, that I can do this,
(55:38):
but I get a lot of no's.
Yeah,
Albatross (55:42):
I do too.
And, and I'm grateful for thatbecause if I didn't have that
guidance, I feel like though Itry to be mindful of
sustainability and I try to bemindful of how I'm interacting
in that space.
Sometimes, on a different level,you don't quite know what that
ecosystem is looking like.
(56:04):
So, that having that intuition,and just having a moment and
asking.
Like, I can look at a field, andif there's one flower, yeah,
obviously I know not to pickthat flower, right?
So I'm not gonna just, ifthere's one, I'm not gonna do
it.
But, and that's on my visuallevel, but if there's more than
(56:26):
them, I might be inclined tosay, okay, I could take, you
know, two or three or, or five,depending on what it looks like,
but then the other ones mightnot have great root systems, or
they might have bugs who areeating them.
So it's always having thatmindful check in with that
ecosystem, with that space, withthe Devic realm.
(56:47):
Now in saying, you know, can Itake this?
That's a good precautionarystep.
Kristen O'Meara (56:53):
It's good manners.
Albatross (56:57):
Yeah, very good manners.
Just be polite.
Kristen O'Meara (57:00):
Yeah, just be polite.
I just love that.
Well, I want to have folks knowa little bit about your website.
Can you, can you brieflyexplain?
I know you've mentioned some ofthe services, but I love how
you've categorized them intodifferent phases of the moon.
Is that right?
Albatross (57:20):
Yes.
Um, so on my website, all of my.
Products that you'll find arelisted under different phases of
the moon for the different eightenergies that are associated
with that moon phase.
So we have the full moon and thenew moon, which people are used
to seeing.
But then you'll also see listedthe vanishing moon, and that's
(57:41):
our waning moon.
And then you'll see the wakingmoon, which is what I call our,
um, waxing moon.
So it's waking up, it's gettinglarger.
And in my practice, those arethe terms that I use just
because it's very folk innature.
So I can understand.
what the visual is that ishappening with the moon.
(58:04):
But each of those phases has adifferent energy and a different
element, a different energeticbody that's associated with it.
So I have organized all of myproducts into those energies so
that you can easily navigate tothe energy that will work for
(58:24):
you in the situation that you'relooking, um, to enhance.
So it be it spiritual work or inyourself, if you know that
you're a water element, you cango right to the new moon.
Or if you know you're a fireelement, you can go to the full
moon.
Or if you're looking to add thatelement to your work, you can go
(58:45):
there.
So I've kind of categorizedeverything so it's easy to find
for your intention.
Kristen O'Meara (58:52):
And when you have a session like I had with
you, you were, uh, guiding me toknow, but I, I believe my, um,
was waking the waking room
Albatross (59:02):
to
Kristen O'Meara (59:05):
understand.
And that really brought anotherlayer to.
To the work and to the medicine.
Albatross (59:12):
So I I'll let everybody know where they are,
but, um, if you haven't had asession with me and you don't
know, you can still kind ofnavigate to using your own
intuition and knowing theelement and what you want to
add.
Kristen O'Meara (59:26):
I love it.
Well, you're offering us somuch, so much to reconnect with
ourselves, to the earth, to allof our brothers and sisters,
like you said, um, to That arearound us, not just the plants
and animals, but there's a lotof life like we were talking
about with the Devon ground.
There's a lot of life that wedon't necessarily, we may feel
(59:48):
it but we may not see it.
So, I really appreciate all thatyou're giving us.
Albatross (59:54):
Yeah, thank you.
It's brought so much to my lifeto share my gift and way of
being able to interact, and itjust means the world to me that
I'm able to help people.
And bring them some peace.
So,
Kristen O'Meara (01:00:12):
well, you've helped me and I encourage
everyone who is listening to, tomeet you, to reach out to you
and to learn about what you haveto offer.
Albatross (01:00:22):
You can go to my website, which is www.
featherbeapothecary.
com.
Um, or you can follow me onInstagram, which is at
featherbeapothecary.
Um, both of those sites I'mreally active on.
So you'll be able to reach outto me.
On my website, I just launched anew free ebook on self care and
(01:00:43):
balance and some of the plantallies that you can use to bring
a little bit more self care andbalance into your life.
So that's something that you canfind on my website as a free
download resource if you'relooking to get started.
Kristen O'Meara (01:00:56):
I love that.
Well, I'll link everything inthe show notes.
I'll make sure that that I leteveryone know about the ebook
and that's a very generousoffering from you and I'm just
very happy to see your face.
Yes.
And I'm so glad that you came tojoin us and yes, for everyone
who's listening, have awonderful week and much love.
(01:01:19):
Take care.
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