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Welcome to the Iron Cannon podcast.
I wanted to host Steven and I'm joined by my friends, Co host
and if I might say it, the real good guys Tom and William.
Hello. Hello.
Yeah, that was a great one. I I appreciate that one, Steven,
very nice you're. Welcome, I know.
I I figured you both could use apat on the back 'cause I mean,
normally would never. Not real, not good, you know,

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But for today, at least, you've been blessed with the honor.
Well, thank you being the good guys.
Thank you. We appreciate it.
It's the little thing. Yeah.
No, but we are back to talk about the Skeleton Crew season
and hopefully not series finale.But before we do, you know, for

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most Star Wars shows lately, themost of the Star Wars series,
they'll put on a soundtrack about halfway through the
season, usually every three to four episodes.
Right, they had not put out any,but now it's out Skeleton crew
the complete season 1 is available by Mick Giacchino and
I've been enjoying listening to it, although the they don't have

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did you guys, you know you don'tremember the the trailer from
the the the song from the trailer That was the.
Recording Major Tom. Yungi Win.
Yeah, I think it's called Yungi Whim 'cause I released the whole
song on YouTube. Unfortunately that's not in the
album. I was a little bummed by that.
I would hope. I was hoping they would release
it, but you know, that's what are you going to do?

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What are you going to do? So with that Tom, shall we going
to do it? Yes, we are.
We're going to get into SkeletonCrew Season 1 Episode 8, the
series finale titled The Real Good Guys.
This was directed by John Watts and written by Christopher Ford
and John Watts. And in this episode, the

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synopsis is a journey filled with adventure comes to a
surprising end. And I would say I think the nice
thing about this, it's an ending.
A lot of questions, no cliffhanger, but it's an ending.
Yes, I I wouldn't call it a surprising ending per SE.

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We'll get into that later in theepisode I think.
But it was a well done ending. I think yes, I guess really my
the the the the biggest I think quibble I had with the episode
actually came right at the beginning and it wasn't really
this episode. It was actually the with the
previous episode and that's thatJod was not actually threatening

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the parents at all. That whole I'm going to kill
your parents fake out igniting the lightsabers at the end of
the last episode. The reason why they cut it so
quickly and at the very end, like he ignites the lightsaber
and instantly it cuts to black because he just, he's not
actually threatening them at all.
They're totally safe. He's just like, oh, yeah, I'm a
Jedi and I'm the emissary and you're all under house arrest

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and that's about it. I don't know if I agree with
you. No.
Well. I don't think the purpose was to
like overtly threaten the parents, but especially like the
close shots on the kids. It is, I think clearly meant to
remind them of like you better stay in line or bad things will
happen. Fair I.

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Agree with Steven. No, I, I they're.
Gonna go. No, go ahead, just.
Finish off The thing Jon does really well throughout this
episode is this kind of dual face, you know, talking out of
both sides, where he will say something that seems totally
normal to the parents, but the kids very much know no what's

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behind it. Like, he's constantly working to
keep them in line so he can, youknow, keep his plan going.
Very true, I'm talking more specifically more about the how
it was conveyed to viewers and what job did himself because I
agree like it makes sense. I think he probably just could
have held the lightsaber and gotthe same effect.
You didn't have to ignite it butwhatever it was more of AI feel
like this. The ones very small critique I

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have about this show is it feelslike they try to have these big
shocking endings at times only to have them reverse it at the
very beginning, like within seconds of the next episode
opening, whether it's SM 33 attacking everyone and then, oh,
he's he's fine. And then, you know, the
lightsaber igniting, he's going to kill him and Oh no, it's it's

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totally fine. It's more of the shock for the
viewer than anything else. Well, it it's a shock.
It's. More of a shock on a
cliffhanger, yeah. But yeah, it's more of a shock
on a cliffhanger in in the way that I saw it.
It's like you have no idea what's going to happen next.
Is he really going to sit there and threaten the parents?
That was the I think that was the intention of having the

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lightsaber out there. And it was more to threaten the
kids, like Steven, you said to keep them in line.
But you're left with the question, is he actually going
to threaten the parents in the next episode?
Right. Well, I think I do like how, as
you guys said throughout this episode and throughout the last
few episodes, you never really know which side John's going to

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land on, even up. And I mean, he he's certainly a
little more evil in this episodeincreasing, I think over the
last three episodes, right? He's getting more and more and
more of the become more of the antagonist, right, where it's a
little harder to come back from it.
But you never really know. Does he want to kill them?
Is he just trying to get the money or are they?
He does a nice job of walking that line and being a unique

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type of villain where it's not just I mean, like we saw in with
like the stranger and the acolyte.
He was much more of the friendlyvillain who was like trying to
be, you know, you know, bring you over to his side and and and
kind of downplay his his his sins.
This Jod is more of the he he walks that line of not quite a

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smuggler or you know, where he'slike in the Gray area.
He's certainly more like he's not like a Han Solo, right,
where he's kind of doing a little bad, but like has a heart
of gold. He's he's he kind of walks that
line a little more of OK, he's he's definitely more shady, but
you still really never know where he's going to end up.

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And I appreciate that about the show and and his portrayal by
Jude Law. But there's a couple areas and,
and I know we're going to address this at certain points
where when he's sitting there talking to the public, he wants
him. And I'm going to keep this brief
because we are going to talk about it.
He really didn't want to harm the public because he wants him
as, as the workers. OK.
And there was another point in which it's like it was something

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about the parents. It's like it wasn't supposed to
be this way. And, and there, there's like 3
area and I, we'll get to probably the third area.
But each time it's like, you could see that it went a little
bit further than he expected, But he can, he had to continue
that way. I felt just to keep up with the

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quote UN quote act wasn't what he wanted, but he had to
continue with it because it, it ended up that way.
And I, I, I can't remember that third one, but it was like right
nailed on the head. But you know, we we need to like
get into the actual episode because this was this was, this
was a really, really good episode and a lot of fun.

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And yeah, let's just get into it.
So let's talk about the supervisor then.
We we had speculated maybe the supervisor is a Droid.
We finally get to meet him face to face or face to.
Face to blinking eye. Yes, because as we expected, he

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is a Droid and he's kind of in this room that's almost
abandoned. Like there's like a very thick
layer of dust. Nobody's up.
Been up there for a long time, clearly.
I'll start with you, Steven. What do you think of the?
Supervisor I, I felt whelmed by the supervisor.
I think kind of, we kind of had,like you said, predicted that it

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was going to be a Droid. There wasn't, there wasn't that
much special about him. Like, I appreciate that he, you
know, kind of saw through Jod's ruse pretty quickly.
I, it felt like it was a little one note for me.
Although there is an element that I'm curious about 'cause he

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knows about order 66, which I thought was very surprising
given the timing. We, I'll, I'll put a pin in that
for a second. How did you guys feel about the
supervisor reveal? William, you go first.
I, I felt similarly. I think we it's hard because I
feel like this episode in general was both really well

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done and kind of it, it hit all the right notes it needed to
hit, but it wasn't necessarily surprising.
It it felt more like it was justchecking the boxes, but in a
very well done manner, right. I, I don't know how else to
describe it. Right, It didn't, it didn't
really like break the mold or, or wasn't that any at all
surprising, but it was unlike the the episode description

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claims, but it was very enjoyable in the process, right.
It's on like it's like this weird tension of oh, I really
enjoyed it. I it was kind of everything I
expected for the most part, but well done.
And, and the supervisor was partof that.
You know, he, he's got this really cool design.
He basically takes up most of the room and it's kind of on

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this, he's like this big giant spinning Droid mountain almost.
And yeah, I think it's, it's cool that not many people have
been up there before and that clearly certain people know
about the the fact that he's a Droid, right.
Under Secretary Farah is not surprised whatsoever and and

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says, you know, tell even tells her daughter it's an honor to go
meet the supervisor. So yeah, I guess I felt
similarly. Maybe maybe whelmed.
He was cool. I think.
I don't know if it was supposed to be played as a bigger
surprise, but they telegraphed it fairly heavily.
Tom. Well, I think out of the three
of us, I was the guy that was hoping it was the the pirate,

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and somehow he was the guy that was the supervisor.
That's true. We never actually saw Rennad's
face. No, no, we didn't.
We never did. That's why.
That's why I was sitting there thinking that maybe it was
rented as the supervisor. But my other thing gets to the
other at Acton planet they were on, if that tower was

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technically their supervisor's tower, that tower was different
than this one. So is this one.
I'm glad you brought that up, Tom.
OK, so there's. Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I mean, let me finish this. Steven's itching, then I'm.
I'm no, I'm going to get. There.
Go ahead, Go ahead. I'm going.
To get you, I'm going to let youget there.
But why is it that this planet was actually run, and run very

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well, and not in a crazily psychotic way to keep people in
line? Why was this one run by a Droid?
It wasn't if you did something bad, everybody was was
basically, if you did something bad, you're just stunned.
You're not killed, you're stunned.
OK. But I just find that parallel
interesting that AT Aton is run by a Droid supervisor, but at

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Akron, whatever their supervisortower was, that wasn't there,
but it was the other planets within the AT let's say
planetary system. So and I think also at one point
with all those chairs and the dust and and the consoles to me

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had an Imperial feel to it because when they came in that
did feel like you, it had an Imperial remnant type of feel
with the lights and the dark andall that.
But at some point there actuallywere humans there.
But that becomes a great question.
When did the Droid actually become, let's say, self aware to

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kick the humans out? This is the thing.
OK, You're, you've hit all the elements, Tom.
Oh. Thank you.
This is I think me, I don't think that all of the the, the
jewels of the Republic, what were they called?
Was it Jewels of the Republic? Jewels of the Republic, I don't
think. Just leave it at that.
Yeah, I don't think they were intended to have Droid

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supervisors. So you're right that there is
like some amount of Imperial feeling architecture.
Some of the supervisors languagefeels very Imperial to some.
Degree or Palpatine esque. We will watch your We've been
watching you with great interest.
Exactly, And like some, it's hard to tell is that a reference
or is it in universe? But the big one in my mind is

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the fact that he knows about Order 66.
Yes, he knows the Jedi are quoteUN quote traitors.
I this is, I wish they'd hinted at this a little bit more.
If we get another season, I, I would put money that this is
kind of where it, where it's going to go.
There is some sort of imperial meddling, I think that occurred

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at, at, I don't know, let's assume Palpatine for a moment.
It could have been any but like a secret planet hidden away.
Like we've been kind of theorizing at the very
beginning, like is this real? Before we knew what the great
work was before we knew it was it?
Is this related to like the cloning project?
TBD if it is or not. I think Adaten has deeper

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Imperial connections and the supervisor was installed by
Palpatine by the Empire with theexpress interest of ensuring the
planet continues to function in Palpatine's name.
That. Create a war chest.
Yeah, I mean it. It's possible It was as basic as
like, yeah, Palpatine just wanted, you know, some money,

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you know, stashed away for when he needs to build the third
Death Star. No worries.
I've got a bank, not an issue. I will take out the loan.
Or maybe there's some other project that's ongoing there
that we we don't know about yet or that is otherwise involved.
But I, well, you were talking about this being like a very
straightforward episode. This is where like, I, I wish I

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feel like they were hinting at it and I would.
They'd gone one step deeper. Exactly.
You know, it's interesting you bring that up because I hadn't
considered that element. I mean, I think clearly, like
clearly the supervisor knows that the Jedi are traitors and
so he got word of Order 66. But right, the rest of the

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Galaxy at least does not know of, I mean, clearly the the
people on it do not know of what's happened in the larger
Galaxy, correct? I guess theoretically the
supervisor could know and just wasn't sharing that information
and was still being cagey here because maybe he didn't want
Fern or Under Secretary Farah toto know.

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I think it's telling that Whim idolizes the Jedi still and the
supervisor does not because thatimplies like we talked about,
you know, the planet having these like kind of weird
undertones of control. But I think that further just
kind of points to it that the the supervisor was not not
playing with all the cards. Everyone else is unaware of

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what's happened to the Galaxy. The supervisor knows much more,
right? Interesting, I like that theory
quite a bit because I think the other one I was going for was it
was it more of a they, I mean isthey all had Droid supervisors
and they ripped them out on thatAkron.
Is it did they did they maybe intentionally build each one

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with a different type of supervisor to see, you know, in
the case of failure, you know, they wouldn't all fail in the
same way. That's true.
You know, I guess there are various, various things they
could have done. Yeah, it's it's really

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interesting. I like your theory, though,
Steven, that maybe the Empire does know about it.
Because it seems weird that if if the supervisor knows about
Order 66, he would have to know about the Emperor Empire because
they were announced in the same moment, right.
Palpatine's like, I was assassinated, you know, there
was an assassination attempt on my life.
I mean, maybe the news leaked just before about, oh, there was

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an assassination attempt on Palpatine's life before he made
the formal announcement in the Senate.
But most likely, right. They're so close.
If you're getting news about theGalaxy and Order 66, you would
think he would also know about the formation of the Empire,
which means you would know the New Republic or the Old Republic
is gone and that there would be no, like likely no emissaries.

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So yeah, it's, it's an interesting theory.
I like that actually. I wonder if they didn't go deep
here just 'cause they wanted theshow to not like Star Wars in
particular has a problem where everything ties back to, you
know, the Skywalker saga. Everything is kind of an
internal reference. I I wonder if they opted to not
go quite as deep here to avoid that, which I kind of

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understand. Like, I think one of the
strengths of Skeleton Crew is that it is largely separate
from, you know, a lot of the established cannon.
But yeah, right. Yeah, that's interesting.
Even like a post credit tease, which we'll get to I think would
have worked but. I think you're right.
Maybe they didn't want to go toodeep into the into the lore, or

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maybe it's something we're saving for season 2.
I don't know. But.
Yeah, I don't know. See, that's that I think right
now is one of the the fun thingsabout this show is even you
really touched on it. There is no real tie to the
actual Star Wars universe. They created their own universe
within this. And yes, they've dropped like
maybe the Super they they dropped a hint about the

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supervisor knowing about order 66.
There's that hint there. But also it gives you the
opportunity if there is a season2 to start exploring those
questions more. You can.
I've already read the nice thingabout this that the writers when
they put this together, wanted to tell literally a beginning,
middle and an end story and that's it.

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They really didn't want a cliffhanger if there was not
going to be a second season. OK, they left open a bunch of
questions and threads. Great.
But it's not a cliffhanger ending to where it's like, let's
say when it comes to Empire Strikes Back, the cliffhanger
is, hey, we're going to go get Han Solo and we'll call you guys
when we when we find him. That wasn't the case here.
They told a really nice self-contained story and they

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left it that to let it stand on its own.
And they'd left threads for a possible second season.
But if not, they can walk away from this.
And if Disney or somebody wants to pick it up, all those other
stories can be told in a different medium.
If it if that's what they feel like, they can go that direction
a bit. And not so much waiting for

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another part, waiting for a Season 2 to leave everybody
hanging. Yeah.
I hope we get in a second season.
I think we'll, we'll talk about this more in our season recap
show probably next week about I think maybe we'll save the
theories for, for Season 2 for that episode or most of the
theories. We have a lot we can discuss
about what can happen in season 2 and some of the ratings and

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stuff. They haven't been the greatest
so far based on what people seemto think with the Nielsen
ratings. Not necessarily the worst sign,
but it could be not great. We'll we'll talk about that more
I think in our next episode, butI do hope that we get a second
season we and if there is one, we can start to delve more into
these topics because I think it's it's really fascinating.

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You know, I did really like though, and I think you alluded
to this earlier, Steven, how thesupervisor, he very quickly
picked up on John's lives and he's like, wait a minute, you
said you're a Jedi, but the Jediare traitors.
So either you are an emissary who is a traitor, or you are
lying about being a Jedi, in which case you're probably also,

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you know, bad. So I don't trust.
You nothing nothing good here. Exactly.
It's so good. It is so good how he calls him
on it and. Unquestionable Droid building
logic though, because. OK, let's.
Hear this immediately, You know I was like well I guess we're
going all in besides the stabbedsupervisor and I mean it's very,

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you know TV logic, but stabbing supervisor through the eye you
know it's massive Droid unit Well that's efficient.
Now the how long does lifesaver like 3 feet, something like
that, four feet supervisor goes down and when the supervisor
goes down the power goes out. All the droids entries go out
there is. It's like the Trade Federation

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Droid Control ship. It's just, yeah, it is.
Yeah, good point. It is all gone, yes.
Yeah, but they still have a gripon their weapons though, which I
found very fascinating. You would think that if they
power down, those weapons would be easily.
Yeah, they got a death grip on those.
Frozen or yeah? But yeah, that that was

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certainly surprising the, the, the supervisor's very quick end.
And of course, JOD, you know, hewants to bring his pirate ship
through the the barrier to to reinforce him.
And I like how Fern or Farah andsecretary for it is kind of
weird that like I don't know if it's intentional or not.
You've got Wim and Wendell and Fern and Farah, their the

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parents and the kids have the exact same, very similar names
and the exact same, same initials.
So anyway. I never caught on that one.
Yeah, but Under Secretary Farah,she, you know, she calls him on
it. And it's like, what do you mean?
If you they were, if you were, can't you they just come to the
barrier? Why can't your friends?
Why don't they have the same access you do?
That's strange. But eventually we learned there

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is this device they'll come intoplay later that can destroy the
barrier and expose that into theGalaxy.
But you know, I think JA doesn'treally want that because he
wants the plan to himself. Farah doesn't want that because
she wants to be safe. And so instead she decides to
lower the barrier so the piratescan come through.

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So, you know, she and her daughter will be safe.
And then we get a pretty brutal sequence where the the pirates
land on that Aton and just. Just I just love the shot of
them coming through the the barrier like you.
You touched on that, yes, I I absolutely 100% all hardly agree

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to see that ship coming through the cloud was ominous is just
great. Oh my God, it was so cool.
Yeah. Have we seen that pirate ship
before? Like is it from other some other
media? I.
Know on Port Borgo there was a other there was other pirate
ships we've seen in the past, but I think I believe this is
this is a new. I I appreciated it.

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It felt very reminiscent and maybe this is an intentional
design to it. It felt reminiscent of somewhat
like the original kind of toy type tips that would be made
where like the ship itself had like a built in stand basically
on the bottom. Yeah, I know what you're talking
about the. Large, I don't have to call it
like wing kind of sitting down so you can grab it and swoosh it
around like it. It worked very well.

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Yeah, yeah, it's it's it was great.
And, you know, just the fact they started shooting buildings,
homes, civilians, I kind of, youknow, almost feel sad just
seeing all of these all peacefulat AT and just get ripped apart
as the pirates land and start rounding up the citizens.
And it's it's a it's not a good day.

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No, no, no, no, not at all. And of course, you know, the the
Fern and Farah are with with JAD, but the rest of the kids
and their parents are all under house arrest.
And you know, this is before thepirates come.
And even when the pirate attack,the early on in the pirate
attack, you know, we see the whim is trying to convince his

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dad that things are off. They can't really say it because
they're under the watchful eye of the sentry droids.
And we see a space microwave, bythe way, which is interesting, a
thermal cooker. That was fascinating.
Hey, that was a home cooked mealwill you?
Yeah, a hot. Plate.
That's what you call a home cooked meal.
A. Hot plate with a lid.

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Love it. And you know, we see Neil is at
home in the bathtub again. I think it's like his favorite
thing to do. Which was funny.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But it was so funny to hear him
sit there and he's like, mom, almost sounded like my son when

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he was stuck somewhere and you'dhear him sit there and just go
mom. It's so I just all I could think
of is like that was I whoever designed that like ceiling,
window, skylight maybe? Skylight, yeah.
Yeah, like just just well used throughout this show honestly.
Like we yeah, Neil got to use itearlier to talk or sorry was it

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was whim talking to Neil earlier?
Yeah, yeah. I think that's what right.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's, I don't know. It was fantastic.
It's great. It's great.
I also just love the little moment when Wim is trying to
talk to Neil on the walkie-talkie and.
It's funny. And you know, the security Droid
comes in and he just pretends like he's playing with his
action figures. It's so good.

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Oh, Princess Ran, blah blah blahblah, blah, blah.
Oh, Neil, we're going to be exactly.
It's so good. Very Spaceballs.
Yes, it was. Yes, it was.
Oh my God, that's hilarious. You're totally right.
It's so spaceballs, But then, you know, like I said, the
droids lose power and you know, you get you get your they are
broken type of scene and the kids realize they can't

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everything's not working right. And and actually, I appreciate
how Wendell once he once Wim very briefly explains the
situation, the the parents startto get a little more on board.
Not not fully. Wendell still wants to just get
his son to safety rather than try to go save Fern and Farah.
Reasonable. Yeah, He he's definitely a
little bit more a little more scared nerd, you would say.

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Yeah, a little nerd. Yeah, that too.
We'll get. There, that's why he says later
that that I wish I could remember the exact words but
literally shows he's a nerd. Oh oh.
No, he's by far are the best lines later on.
Like I'm a level 7 systems coordinator.
Exactly. No, that like this was the
episode that just, you know, he.Comes into his own.

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Yes, yeah, exactly. This was absolutely.
I didn't want to get there just yet, but you had to.
But I just I'd love. No, that was a I'm glad you
brought that up because I was a that was a hilarious line.
Oh my God, that was throughout this episode.
You really see him start to go from, you know, he's kind of
more a little meek and a little,you know, not really willing to,

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he's not really willing to be a hero, let's just say.
And we see through this episode,he starts to grow into that with
first, you know, he's trying to find an escape route and he sees
his son run off and he steals the, the, the, the hoverbike or
borrows the hoverbike from Banjafafa and Fafa and goes
after them. And, you know, he makes, he
makes the jump over that ravine and he's actually like excited.
Oh, I did it and. Then wait, wait, go, go back to.

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The point where you're talking about the systems coordinator.
But but go back to one minute. The thing that also kind of
cracked me up, the kids are on the hover bikes.
He pulls up and I swear to God, I saw him sitting there reaching
over to his son's hover bike. Try and get him to stop.
Like, yeah, you're going to sit there on this bike and grab your
son's handle to make him stop? Yeah, he was kidding me.
You're that much of A nerd? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And of course that's a very kindof an ET reference to with them,
you know, running the Oh yeah, yeah, riding the bikes and doing
the jump through the air, right.It's it's great.
But of course, the, the whole, the goal really is to get to the
Onyx Cinder so they can get intospace and call Kim for help.
Because, you know, of course, inthe second, third episode, she

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promised to help be there if, ifthe kids ever needed her.
And sure enough, they, they needher.
And so they get to the ship and we get this like, I like the
action quite a bit. I don't know how you guys felt
about the CG. It was a little bit dodgy at
times, but overall it was some good action I.

(29:13):
I mean, the speeder chase I thought was a breath of fresh
air compared to like Book of Boba Fett's speeder chase.
So. Yes, yes, yes.
Like. The Mas Espa, Vespas.
Yeah, The biggest issue, I mean,I don't consider it an issue
like the pirates definitely have, you know, the aim of a
stormtrooper, shall we say, as they're working through.
But like, overall, I thought it worked like pretty well.

(29:36):
And it's the type of thing, you know, like, you know, as a kid,
you know, racing around on your bike, you could very much
imagine this being like how theywould imagine, basically.
And I like that, you know, they they were not while the pirates
don't have the greatest aim, they were not the kids didn't
like escape unharmed, right? Neil all gets knocked off his
hover bike and is left alone, which actually plays in later to

(30:01):
another thing we we predicted last week on our episode.
But yeah, you know, when they eventually get to the Onyx
Center, they realize, Oh no, we need to turn on the power.
That's the only way to escape. And thankfully Wendell knows how
to do that at the supervisor's tower.

(30:22):
So let's see I guess so we'll get to the you know, they they
make their way to the supervisor's tower and.
And in this sequence too, I liked how if again, it's the
same planet as at Akron. And so now that that kind of
thoroughfare they were, they were walking through on at
Akron, right with the smoke and everything is actually the the

(30:45):
water way this time there, there's time.
They're they're they're flying over the the water and it's,
it's really well done. They get up to the top of the
tower and of course Whim decidesto make up a pretty hilarious
story to distract Jod while his dad sneaks around and disables

(31:07):
the restores the power, actually.
Yeah, funny thing about he just had a crystal just out of
nowhere. They found it on the Hidden
Hills of wherever it was. That's going to end up helping
them get through the barrier. And what A and then?
And then Fern buys into it. Right, which you know, she
wasn't rolling her eyes at this time, right?

(31:27):
She actually buys into it. And no, you're right.
It felt like it was straight outof one of Wim's Hollow books.
Right? Yeah.
Yeah, well, I mean, we'll talk about this with the parents in a
little bit. But like it, the show did such a
good job, I think of paying off.You know, like Fern, who
ridiculed Wim at the beginning of the show for all of this,
like Tom said, now is leaning into try and sell it, try and

(31:49):
distract jaw just that little bit longer.
Just, I don't know, really showing how far they've come,
you know? Is fantastic.
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
So Wendell destroys the he restores the power, and KB flies
into orbit with the Onyx Cinder.And guess who's back?

(32:13):
SN 33. He's not dead.
His head's still there, able to help him out.
I do feel I think I saw a wire though.
So I think it's implied that KB fixed SM and like reconnected
his head to his body so. You know, yes, just that we bit
to get some help, yeah. And I will admit I was wrong.
Snowballs not controlling SM 33 so.

(32:36):
That would have been that. Theory was wrong.
I'm just, I'm willing to admit it, but yeah, so we, she she
gets into space, she calls Kim and Kim sends in the New
Republic. But there's no way for them to
arrive without destroying the barrier or bringing down the
barrier in some way. And this is where I think

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Steven, you, you called it last week.
Neil gives KBA little bit of help with the turbolaser from on
the top of the school as you predicted.
I also appreciated like the turbolaser was hidden inside,
you know, the the container, theDome, making it even more like,

(33:20):
you know, obviously they're likeit wasn't just sitting there out
and you know, they just never noticed it like it was it.
Was a camouflage. It is camouflage exactly.
And it was kind of, you know, this unique knowledge of that
Akron that let them know like, oh, like that's not just like
some random, you know, heat dissipation Dome or, you know,
productive gear. Like there's actually something
under there. But then that that literally

(33:43):
begs so many more questions you want to have answered because
if, if Akron has this and at Aton has this, it's like you
really want to see a season 2 tohave all this stuff explained.
And, and but anyway, I just, I just love how, and I've always
said this, if you're going to call attention to something

(34:04):
once, you better use it again. And it was nice to see.
And yes, it was nice that you called it Steven, that it was
used in this. And man, for being something
that hasn't been used probably in like eons, it did damage to
that pirate ship. But I also appreciate that they
were able to take it out fairly easily, right?
It's not this invincible weapon,it just it's able to buy KB a

(34:26):
little bit of time. Right.
Yeah, so I. All she needed.
All she needed to make the call and then get shot down.
Tom, what was your thoughts? What went through your head when
KB and the Onyx Center just wentplummeting to the ground?
Well, there the one thing I found fascinating was KB sat
there and told her mom she can fix it.

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So it seems like there is KB's got some kind of knowledge for
whatever she gets a hold of. Like like she was able to fix SM
33. We assume she was probably going
to, and she must have done something to the Onyx Center,
because it really didn't quote UN quote.
Even though it looked bad from Jod's point of view and he did
sit here and blame Wim for the crash, it wasn't as bad as it

(35:13):
looked because the Onyx Cinder wasn't really trashed, right?
Yeah. Yeah, the KB has to imagine
something KB did to. To make it a softer landing,
right? Some kind of softer landing in
the end. Yeah.
And I, I like that it was kind of ambiguous though, until you
go see her. Like it could have survived and
it she could have not. Yeah.
So I appreciate. That yeah, the the other thing

(35:35):
that this just just just came tomind that when the Onyx Ender go
back to when it actually went through the barrier, it just
came to mind. It reminded me of, I'm going to
say this is the wrong studio in Batman.
The Michael Keaton Batman, when he came through the clouds and
did the whole Batman logo from the moon and you see the bat
logo, the bat plane right there.I almost thought of that when

(35:59):
the Onyx Ender came through the clouds to get the message out.
It's like that's kind of reminded me of that.
I'm sorry. Yeah.
No, you're right. You're right.
Yeah. You know, and kind of all
culminates in this, this fight over the the barrier, right?
And can they destroy it? Because if they destroy the
barrier, they can, they can let the, the help that's hopefully

(36:23):
coming in. And there's a, there's a bit of
back and forth here as they, youknow, grapple over lightsabers
and the, the lever, etcetera. But I think the biggest moment
we actually finally get a littlebit of John's back story.
Sure enough, he was indeed a Jedi of sorts.

(36:43):
I, I'm curious to hear your, both of your thoughts on John's
back story. Did you like his back story?
How How did you feel about? How did you feel about it?
I, I liked it. I think it, you know, he wasn't
a full on Inquisitor like you had described, but I, the way I
look at it is, you know, for every, you know, Ezra who finds
Canaan, there is probably a Jod,you know, an ex Jedi doing her

(37:05):
best to, you know, continue the traditions and not quite making
it. And to some degree, I think
showcases the danger of, you know, the what happens when you
half train a Jedi now enough to use their powers to know what
they're capable of, but without the moral backing that, you

(37:27):
know, prevents them from, you know, turning to a life of
piracy across the gal. Actually you get those good good
good point. So do you think the master died
during Order 66 or was she haunted down by an Inquisitor
act? Like.
Did she did she find out Jod at post order 66 I guess?
I thought it was post order 66. Agreed, and if I understand his

(37:49):
story correctly, it sounded likehe helped whoever hunt her down
because he did say he watched her die, no?
I think they forced him to watchher die.
Yeah, they forced, they forced him to watch her die, though.
And then also, I think there's it, it just came up and I'm
looking at comicbookmovie.com that there's an actress, Yasmin
Al Masari, the first look that yeah, that she basically was a

(38:12):
Jedi character that they that was cut from the final episode.
So kind of like they filmed maybe a flashback scene and then
decided to not do it, which I actually think is probably
better. I think this.
Version works really well where a it continues.
There's always an element with Jod of like, is he telling the
truth or not? Thank you.
Yes, but I think just not seeingit also really adds to the the

(38:36):
sadness. Like I, I think this adds a
good, I don't want to say it redeems Job because he's clearly
still not a good person, but I think this is the truest sense
of him we get in the show as a whole.
You know this. You know a kid who was always
left wanting more and is now deciding he is going to take it.
Yeah, interesting. And also, and also, I do agree

(38:59):
with you, Steven, that by not doing that, it does beg the
question, was this actually trueor not that did this actually
happen? Because because so far
everything he has said, maybe there's that little bit of
truth, but it's always been an opposite.
So you really cannot trust. Him.

(39:20):
It's true. Yeah.
I I I'm inclined to believe in this case, but you're right
there. There's no way to know for sure.
Maybe he's maybe he's lying. It's interesting you brought
that. I, I hadn't seen that story
about the, the deleted scene, 'cause there's a, there's an
interview with Entertainment Weekly with Christopher Ford and
John Watts, the creators of the show and Chris Ford actually set

(39:41):
told Entertainment Weekly quote.The challenge, though, was as
fascinating as John is, we always wanted to keep it from
the kids perspective. The kids are like, I don't
understand this guy. They've never been out in the
Galaxy and met someone as damaged as him.
So I don't think we could have done a flashback in this season.
End Quote. So interesting if they actually
did film it and then maybe they realized they it didn't fit
because it wasn't from the kids perspective and they they cut

(40:04):
it, but that also ties so and somaybe they change their mind.
You know, it's always been like that.
But the that doesn't remind me though, how you know your Tom,
your theory, right, was that it's all from the kids
perspective and it's a it's likea story and we didn't.
Get that per SE right, It's not whim waking up and it was all a

(40:25):
dream or or whatever, but it is still from their perspective and
it is you know, you do get that like storybook ending almost at
the end. It's just whims hollow book.
I think it's more of a a neat way to do the credits of
anything else, but I think it's kind of all comes together to
show that it's yeah, it is stillfrom the kids perspective and,
and, and maybe it's filtered through that even if it's not

(40:47):
explicitly mentioned in the season.
Tying back a little bit, like when I kind of alluded to this,
I think one of the other things the show does really well is
every one of maybe not, maybe not Neil's mom, but most of the
parents, Like, this is very muchkind of a metaphor for them
about, you know, letting their kids grow up as well.

(41:09):
Like there's the obvious metaphor of like, you know, that
lets you go beyond the barrier, beyond the protection of your
parents. But you know, Wendell obviously
trusts whim, you know, and they go on their speeder adventure.
Farren, Farrah's mom or Fern's? Mom, excuse me?
Yeah, like, as you know, the most literal moment of literally

(41:32):
like I have to choose to destroythe barrier that protects my
children and even K BS parents have, you know, as she's taking
off, they, you know, message her, you know, tell her good
luck and sorry. They they tell her that they
believe in her and that she can do this.
Just all, all of them just kind of have, you know, just that
very nice moment of like, Nope, like you, you are children.

(41:53):
But also you can do this, you know.
But but also Burn, burn did lookat her mom at a certain point
and say, look, we have been in this Galaxy.
We know there's bad people out there.
But we even though there wasn't a lot of travel that they did
OK, we only saw a short bit of it.
But she did say there are good, there is good out there.

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And even Jod says at that one point, I think during his his
speech about, you know, losing the master and all that trying
to tell the kids there is evil out there.
But even he says there are little pin pricks.
He says pin pricks. Of good.
And I think this is, you know, Star Wars is often a story of

(42:36):
redemption. And I think that is that spirit
shining through here. You know, this is a show that
is, you know, obviously it's about kids going on adventure,
but it is about them interactingwith pirates who are pillaging
and destroying their world. And throughout it all, there is
a, you know, a belief that the world, the Galaxy has good in

(42:57):
it. And that is worthwhile.
Yeah. And it, and it kind of even
infused just like the general way the show approaches, like
the Jedi 2, right, that we talked about in this, the
premiere, the, the, that infectious enthusiasm and
excitement about the Star Wars Galaxy because they don't, they
don't really know about it. They're living in it, but they
don't really know about it truly.

(43:17):
And, and that just means they have this wonder and this joy
and this childlike excitement about the things that we love.
That's part of Star Wars. And I think it's all kind of
part of that same thing in many ways.
The other thing like kind of continuing that theme that I
really appreciate the show did is we we get to see the New
Republic here. I think at its best, like I, I

(43:41):
think fairly recently had complained about the New
Republic always feeling very ineffectual and, you know,
failing at its job. We get a note from Kim here that
like, you know, the New Republicis great at busting pirates or
whatever it is that she says. And then we get to see the New
Republic do exactly that. X wings and B wings.
Which side? I mean, we'll should talk about
it more in a moment. Like just so phenomenal to see B

(44:04):
wings again in live action, but it just I I love the portrayal
of the New Republic is like, no,this is actually what they are
doing. They're not incompetent.
I mean, they are incompetent because of all the other things
we know that are going on, but like they're.
They're not perfect, but yeah, well, they do try to go hardly.
Seen the not perfect side. And I think this was just a
great case of like, yeah, you know, New Republic found out

(44:26):
there was, you know, power attack ongoing.
They sent a Corvette. They sent, you know, a handful
of X wings and a couple of bombers, and they wanted to take
care of it. And it was so cool.
Yeah. It it was, but you see the B
wings actually use their their late.
I mean we saw it what in Star Wars rebels we saw that use.

(44:46):
I really don't remember actuallyseeing it in any of the I don't
live action movies, but now we see it here.
This is in use. I could gush over this sequence
and like the pirate climbing like these.
These are the scenes that, not surprisingly, made the episode
for me in so many ways. Yeah, a 'cause I especially like

(45:09):
Disney, Star Wars has been really over emphasizing the X
wing. It's the ship we always see, we
get it, it's the workhorse of the New Republic, etcetera,
etcetera. But seeing the B wings here was
just so cool. Getting to see them kind of in
their in their element, you know, these kind of bomber units
that really just like decimate the pirate ship almost

(45:32):
instantly. Like it is reminiscent, you
know, like, ah, pirate ship clearly designed to terrorize
other people. It is not designed to handle
what the New Republic is puttingout here.
Not at all. Not at all.
Exactly. Yeah, Yeah.
And to watch that pirate ship crash.
I mean, I really hate to say this.
We haven't seen a really good destruction of a Starship in a

(45:53):
while, and this was pretty cool.Yeah, I mean, there's maybe some
questionable targeting choices of like, hey, let's bring the
ship down over an inhabited city, but.
Well, you. Know, like we said, the Republic
isn't always, is it always perfect?
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I, I, I agree. It was beautifully done.

(46:13):
It was such a great moment. And of course, you know, you
hear the, the, the, the squadron, you know, do their
roll call as they, as they appear.
It's just, it's great. It is.
It is fantastic. I think I was both surprised and
I think I like that there was nocameos.
I was half expecting, right, a major cameo and they called in

(46:35):
the Republic. Like, is it going to be Zeb or
Hera or Bogatan or even the Mandalorian or Captain Carson
Tiva? Is it going to be someone else
we know that comes in to rescue them?
And Nope, it's 22 randos X Wing Commander Kent and Pilot
Calitan. Like we don't know who these
people are. The fact that we didn't see
Carson Kiva, I actually think isthe most impressive thing.

(46:57):
Yes, because you. Can't.
You can't use him too much and it just feels small.
Yeah, well, yeah, I'd say they've already used him maybe
too much, yeah, but yeah, just. But you see that's.
Phenomenal sequence. And that, that's the other thing
about this show. It is self-contained in its own
world, even though we know it's set within, like we just said,

(47:20):
it's set within the world of TheMandalorian, that within the
world of Ahsoka. You know, it's set there, but
it's still its own world. It's connected, but it's, let's
say, connected, adjacent, but not fully connected, let's say
yet because we have no idea what's going to happen in Season
2. But it's just its own thing and

(47:41):
I appreciated that. Yeah, no, I, I, I agree.
I think it, it really does feel it, it makes it more
approachable, I think for peopletoo.
It's not like, oh, there's this person that appeared and I know
they're important, but I have noidea who they are.
And I, you know, for the, for the more the, the casual
viewers, right? You can usually tell when

(48:02):
something's a reference and you know that you're out of the loop
with the reference. And not that I don't like them,
I do as a fan, I, I, I appreciate that.
But I think for, as a way to bring new viewers in it, it's
good they kept it, you know, in its own corner of the Galaxy
right now. I, I, I like that.

(48:23):
I do wonder right near, near theone of the very final shots of
the of the episode, we see a blockade runner, you know,
flying to the sky. And I, I kind of wonder who we
never find out who is on that blockade runner.
Is it just some random New Republic dignitary?
Knowing how the show has handledsome of the other stuff, I think
that's probably more accurate. It's not something we know.
It's probably just a a rando. But either way it is cool to see

(48:48):
the the New Republic come in andand be the the hero of the day
and and push out the pirates. Though I'm going to I'm going to
throw this out there at this point since we're just about
wrapped up. What do you think happened to
JOD? You know, that's a good question
because he we see him watching the, the pirate ship crash from

(49:10):
the supervisor tower and everyone kind of just leaves
him, right? They see KB crash and they leave
the supervisor tower to go and try to check on her and make
sure she's OK. They just run away and they know
that JOD's sitting there and he he just staring at the window
with a a look of almost determination on his face at the
end. At first he's like you can see

(49:31):
he's upset and frustrated that his whole plan is literally
blown up. And then he has a look of
determination and we never see him again.
What do you think? Without going too deep because I
feel like this gets into the next episode podcast, I suspect

(49:52):
this is connected with Renaud. We don't know what happened to
him. I would not be surprised if you
know in a moment of crisis, God always good at quit thinking on
his faith, thinking on his feet,connect something, figure
something out and is going to godiscover, you know what happened

(50:13):
to. What happened to him?
That's right. Yeah.
Let's. Find a way out.
You know, who's to say but. Yeah, I So you think he escapes?
You think they're new public? I think he escapes.
They're absolutely nobody. I mean, maybe it's wishful
thinking because I thought Jude Law did such a fantastic job.
Oh yeah. My, my biggest fear is that it

(50:34):
this would be the end of him andwe wouldn't get more of that
character. And I very much hope we do.
But I think even, you know, Wim is kind of gesturing for him to
come with him. Yeah, he did.
He did sit there and say come with him.
Yeah, like, I I think it leads not it's not a redemption arc,
but a recognition that maybe letme ask this is a question for

(50:56):
you guys. So last episode, Jod very
clearly at the peak of evil for himself.
You know, he is literally threatening kids with
lightsabers in this episode. There's I think a few moments
where he's obviously still fighting with them, but I, I
interpreted it as he didn't actually want to go that far.
And the fact that he, you know, he doesn't act out in rage after

(51:17):
his plan goes down. He's not going out of his way to
kill people. I, I think they're leaving room
for him to improve and also kindof communicating that like he
was not fully serious in the previous episode.
He is intending to be scarier than he actually is ready to be.
And that's kind of what I referenced earlier is you do see

(51:38):
him struggle. It's like I just, I just want
don't. He even said it to the pirates
don't harm the population. I need them as workers.
And you can. And I can't remember.
Like I said, there's two other points after that where you
could see he's struggling. It's like, all I wanted was
this. I didn't want this.
And then the third time, it was the same thing.
It's like all all I wanted was this.

(51:58):
I didn't want this. Right.
You know? Yeah.
Yeah, no, I think, I think you're both right.
I think he's. I like how the show continues to
have him straddle that line of not being completely evil, but
not being not redeeming him either and making him good.
And I think it's, it's a, it's avery good thing that Star Wars
often redeems people, right? I think it's a very, it's a very

(52:20):
noble, you know, goal to have, right, That, you know, people
can be, you know, redeemed and repent and change.
That said, if it happens too often, right, it just becomes,
oh, OK, the villain's going to be a good guy at the end of the
thing. You can't.
It just becomes too predictable.And I really like exactly.
And I like that they didn't redeem Jod, right?

(52:41):
It's he is he's very much the villain of this of this this
episode in the series. And you know, he he fails and
they leave him alone and he doesn't necessarily go out of
his way to kill everybody, but he's not a good guy at any
stretch. And they kind of leave him in

(53:04):
that, that spot. And so I, I like that.
I like that they didn't try to redeem him.
I I thought that was really goodrestraint on their part.
Yep, agreed. Yeah.
Yeah. And then of course, we, you
know, we had to find out what happened to KB.
Yeah, they, they, they rushed tothe Onyx sender and the, the,

(53:25):
the ship is kind of hanging fromthis atrium ceiling.
And, you know, the, the, the, it's like the testing atrium at
the, the, the places in ruins. And the, the ship kind of falls
down a little bit, a little moretoward the ground.
And I thought it was a beautifulshot how the boarding ramp just
opens and thousands of credits spill out of the boarding ramp

(53:49):
and KB falls onto the pile of credits.
It was just really well shot. Very Scrooge Mcduck ask as well.
Just when swimming, yeah. And thankfully, she's fine,
right? She asks if they won.
And of course, SN33 says it's one of his better landings.
Which if that's one of your better landings, I'll, I don't

(54:09):
want to fly with him. Let's just put it that way.
I mean the last time the Onyx tender ended up what, upside
down and buried so. Fair enough.
So it's right side up mostly. So you know exactly yeah, it's
progress. But yeah, it's just a beautiful
shot to to cap it all off. And like we said, we we see the

(54:30):
the blockade runner in the sky and then it just ends.
We never really find out what happens to the kids, what
happens to JAD. I mean, clearly the kids are
safe. Adaton is free, although they're
exposed to the Galaxy. The the pirates have been rushed
off. We don't know who from the New
Republic came. We don't know if the New
Republic. I'm assuming they don't know

(54:51):
about these, these, I don't knowthese worlds and that the fact
that they do, you know, I, I, I wonder what will happen to the,
these are all things we'll, we'll have to talk about next
week, because what will happen to the, all the, the credits?
Will they, what will happen to the kids?
We see them again, we get a second season.
I have so many questions. But while there's a lot of
interesting things they could dowith a second season, they

(55:13):
wrapped it up pretty well. I would say they did like most
of the big questions are answered.
This is small threads but. Yeah, they left.
They left enough threads that they could have a jumping off
point for a second season. Yeah, I how did you feel about
the the way things wrapped up? Do you guys, do you guys agree

(55:35):
that it was, it was it was do you like it?
Did you? Do you wish they had given us a
little more? The, the only thing for me, I
would have loved to have seen somebody from Matt Aton meet
with the blockade runner once itlanded and to see if the New

(55:56):
Republic came in there by way ofwe knew that Aton existed or
something like that. Or, you know, I, I that that's
what I would think right now. OK, just a representative of the
New Republic meet these folks from Matt Aton.
And then did the New Republic somehow just literally find out

(56:16):
about it? Did they come to the rescue?
Because Kim said, hey, there's aplanets being attacked by
pirates or you know, hi, we're here, what's going on?
And then crash. You guys have a lot to learn and
boom, there's the end of story. Yeah, I I was happy with how it
ended. I do feel like it could have
used like a final shot, basically something that kind of

(56:40):
tie it together, the kids acknowledging their adventure
together. I think we kind of get it where,
you know, there's a comment about like, I guess we didn't
talk about it, but like I, I do really like, you know, the
comment about assessment. And when looking up the the
Corvettes and the X wings and B wings and you, you can tell that
you know his desire, the job he wants is just changed it.

(57:07):
It all works. I I think it could have used one
more, one more moment, one more shot.
Something about to really post credit scene.
Something. Yeah, yeah, something.
Honestly a post credit scene like that that I think is needed
potentially need for something different.
This is just we, we find out KB is alive, we get the shot of

(57:28):
whim clearly having wanting to have a new adventure.
And then we literally, you know,go to credits.
It was missing. I think just, I don't know, I
want to say a shot of all the kids together, although I think
we technically got it, but just maybe a scene that's a little
bit after all this destruction, some recognition that, you know,
life now continues for them. Maybe a hint at what that looks

(57:51):
like. You know, I don't know, I it's
I'm not a writer, I'm not a field director.
There was, I think it needed just a half a second more.
That's something like that. Almost like a way to put a
little bow tie or button. On the coda, yeah, a bow tie is.

(58:12):
Great with it yeah, Coda, yeah, I agree with that.
I I think that was something that did lack in this.
It doesn't when I watch it, it didn't bother me.
It ended so quick, but now talking it out yes, I agree with
you, Steven. Just one little something to end
it. Going into the credits and

(58:32):
having the credits basically reflect Wim's storybook.
I thought that was pretty cool. And I kind of almost read it as
a way of, you know, maybe until you start really looking at
maybe this is God's back story. But then once it got into.
How I read it, it makes a difference.

(58:53):
Like I don't know if it's one toone JOD's story, but it felt
like maybe Wim imagining what JOD's back story looks like
because we we see, you know, do Jedi or you know, a Jedi begin
training another. Right, but then again, there was
a red lightsaber later. Yeah.
And that's where like it, I wanted that to be some of John's

(59:13):
back story given what we saw. I don't, I don't think it's
meant to be direct to that. Right.
Yeah, I don't know. You know, I'm with you guys
there. I'm with you guys.
You know, I think like ultimately it, I think this and
maybe this, I should say this for my, for my recap.

(59:34):
I think the show, I think the finale, it played things a
little bit safe, right? It, it checked off all the
boxes. It, it, it did most of what we
predicted it 'cause it, the showtelegraphed a lot of its twists
far in advance or surprises. But I also like that they didn't
in the show try to play it off as if it was a giant surprise,
right? There was a Droid, but it was

(59:55):
more like a, you know, they theyI think assumed most viewers had
caught on by by then, which was I at least appreciate it.
They didn't, you never want to be a, you know, a, a, A twist
that they pretend as a giant twist.
And the viewers just like, yeah,no, I knew that, you know, so at
least they are, they seemed aware of that.

(01:00:16):
And so while I think it, you know, it played things a bit
safe. I would have loved to go into
more detail on at, at, AT and and the planets and and.
You know, maybe a little bit more into like the, the pirate
attack 'cause it's, it's very much, you know, JOD, they meet
the supervisor, he kills the supervisor.
I think killing the supervisor was just the most surprising

(01:00:38):
part. Pirates attack everything gets
cleaned up with a nice little bow.
They, they wrap things up very nicely and it, it's not really a
big cliffhanger, although there's certainly opportunities
for them to pick up the story inthe future.
So yeah, I mean, overall I overall I thought I really

(01:00:58):
enjoyed the finale. It's not the a perfect finale.
It would be the most exciting finale of all time, but it was
certainly a very enjoyable 1 andit it caps off a very a very fun
season and series. So what would your rating be on
this William? Because you've already started

(01:01:20):
little. Cars so.
Why did you finish it? Maybe I'd give it 8 1/2 wombrats
out of out of 10 for all the reasons I, I just said again, I
I've really loved watching Skeleton crew.
It's a really special show. It's, it's, it's, I would say,
you know, whereas Andor was morefocused on older fans and it's

(01:01:42):
just so well written and really well done.
This is a great show that's morein the vein of, you know, Amblin
Entertainment, focus on kids. And it's just a lot of fun, a
lot of fun, a lot of like enthusiasm for Star Wars.
And we'll talk about this more in our in our season recap.
But I enjoyed it quite a bit andI hope we get a season 2.

(01:02:05):
But for now, I'll give it the first season finale. 8 1/2 womp
rats. And these 8 1/2 womp rats, you
know, you think that it's a giant supervisor Droid, but
they're actually, there's 8 1/2 womp rats hiding out behind
that, behind the eye. And so when John stabs it, he
just kills all the womp rats. And you know, that's why

(01:02:26):
everything just stops working. There's, there's no womp rats to
control the droids anymore. Interesting.
David, how about you go next? Yeah, I, I'm going back and
forth a little bit. I think I'm going to try and
rate this episode purely on it as an episode and not
necessarily, you know, reflective of the season as a

(01:02:47):
whole. I it's and then I say that and
then I really want to go to likethe season.
As a whole, it's hard. Yeah, it is really difficult.
I I thought the episode was quite solid.
In a lot of ways, this feels like the the what I would hope

(01:03:08):
is the baseline good episode of Star Wars or any TV show, you
know, like it. It maybe didn't like knock my
socks off and, you know, have mescreaming to everyone like, oh,
you have to go watch this show right now.
You'll never believe what happens.
Or, you know, whatever it might be or it doesn't put it into my
list of favorite shows of all time.
But it you know, it sets up a story, it pays off the story.

(01:03:31):
It wraps it all in a satisfying conclusion.
And it, you know, as much as I would like that to be the
baseline, I think it's worth recognizing.
Like a lot of shows don't get that.
Absolutely. So I I think I'm also going to
give this an 8 1/2. No, it was a a good season

(01:03:51):
finale. I think it capped things off
perfectly delivered on the elements I was looking for like
I I was leaning towards 8, but Ithink I was going to give that
extra half point for B wings andthe pirate ships like yeah.
I was going back and forth too, so those were the two I was
going back and forth between. I'm a simple man, you know, you
give me B wings and X wings executing bombing runs on pirate

(01:04:14):
ships. And you know what?
You're just you. You will win three points for
me, you know? But I they just, I think they
did a great job with it. And like the crew, the cast, you
know, everyone should be happy with how the show went and how
this episode didn't predict likeI I thought they did a great job
capping off the season. So yeah.

(01:04:35):
And half Lombrats and, you know,obviously mine are piloting
those B wings because of course they are.
You know, of course they've got work to do.
You know, naturally, I like sorry, and it's all minor
details. Like, I appreciate it.
We got to the B wings, you know,you know, put S spoils in attack
position, close the S spoils. I was there flying out.
Like it's just that attention todetail that I'm I'm here for.

(01:04:58):
So yeah, my my womp Raptor piloton the B wings getting work
done. Tom.
OK, behind the scenes thing here, I've been going back and
forth and writing my rating on this thing and I mean literally
I've been going back and forth and I am settling on an 8.75.
I'll tell you honestly, it for me, it's really hard to rate

(01:05:21):
this episode because I just enjoyed it for the storytelling
and I just I've enjoyed this whole season just for the flat
out storytelling and and how it's been done and it's been
done so well. Especially I'm going to also
throw on top of that the acting too.
It's just been everybody's been been just it's been a good show.

(01:05:43):
And to me, this last episode, yes, there's threads to launch a
second season if there is one, but there's enough here to say
you're satisfied that it's over.There is no cliffhanger at the
end. You do have that question about
what may happen to Jod and everybody else in the planet.
But it's it's a satisfying ending that you can say they've

(01:06:06):
done a great job in telling a really solid story and that the
visual effects for this episode were great.
OK, maybe that little speeder chase through the canal might
have been a little clunky, but you can let it pass.
I just, I'm just going to go with my gut.

(01:06:27):
I love this episode and 8.75 is what I'm going to give it.
And with my 8.75 womp rats, the once KB came out of the Onyx
Cinder and all those credits basically spilled out.
Somebody's got to clean up thosecredits and put it back into the
vault. And that's why you have 8.7 womp
rats to sit here, clean up all those credits and make sure they

(01:06:47):
all get back to the vault. Under the watchful eye of SSM 33
though. There you go.
Yeah. Well, this has been this has
been such a fun series to to review with you guys.
I think, you know, there's a lotmore to discuss.
We have lots of theories about what could happen in a potential

(01:07:09):
second season and where they go from here.
And there's lots to look back onfor the the the season as a
whole. But as tempting as those are to
discuss in this episode today, we have to have something to
talk about in our season recap. So we'll save it for that
episode, I think. But we're we won't be that long
to wait. We'll come back next week, I

(01:07:31):
think, with our our look back atSkeleton Crew season 1.
So in the meantime, I think I think we might just leave it
there. If you haven't seen it already,
go tell your friends you should watch Skeleton crew.
Go tell your friends to watch Skeleton Crew.
It's a lot of fun. I hope they they get even more
viewers because we want more of this show.

(01:07:52):
It's just right. This is the kind of Star Wars do
we want, right? And or this course Mandalorian.
It's one of those really, reallyfun series though.
Tell everyone you know about it.And we'll be back next week with
our review of the and our look back at the Skeleton Crew Season
1 as we close things out. Thank you all for listening and

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