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Welcome to the Iron Cannon podcast.
I'm one of your hosts Steven andI'm joined by my friends and Co
host Tom and William. This is kind of a sad moment.
Little sad like this is our season 1 recap of Skeleton Crew
season 1. Just it it's over, we're done.
It's been such a great season. It really has.

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I mean, spoiler alert for the, you know, the the reviews of the
end, but this has been a really fun show Different.
Well, I we'll get into it more like different than some of the
other Star Wars shows we've had,but but a lot of fun, I guess
before we dive in, though, to skeleton crew in our thoughts,
there's a couple couple interesting things happening.

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First, our friends over fan the tracks alerted us to a piece in
Deadline that has how the Star Wars and and actually larger
Disney plus shows have performedthis year.
Interestingly. So you know, there was really
only two big releases this year,the acolyte or I guess 3, the
acolyte skeleton crew and the bad batch.

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You know the the list. But if you look at the top shows
on Disney plus, number one was Percy Jackson and the Olympians.
Just interesting. I don't haven't actually watched
it at all. Very good.
It was good. OK.
Yeah, I, I enjoyed it and I'd say faithful to the books as
well if you're, if you've seen the movies, which we're not.

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I've not seen the books or read the movies or read the books, so
that's good to know. But The Acolyte was still #2
despite the kind of mixed reception I know it, it
performed, it underperformed expectations as far as the show
went. But that was at about 2673
million minutes watched. So about what, 2 billion minutes

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watched? I guess the after that though it
was Agatha all along. Echo X-Men Bad Batch was down in
just 923 million minutes watchedand then Skeleton Crew was below
that, although there were only what, 3 episodes of Skeleton
Crew at the end of the year and didn't have the benefit from all

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of the, you know, repeat viewingthrough the year.
You know, so it's not like quitea a fair fight.
I think it's interesting that the Acolyte is number 2 was not
#1 still beat out some of the MCU shows and it would had what,
over double what the Bad Batch had.
But you know, Skeleton Crew is just below Bad Batch.

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Hopefully that has picked up 'cause I think Skeleton Crew has
been a really, really good show.Did you guys see this?
What are your thoughts on the and takeaways from the the
viewership? Numbers definitely interesting.
It makes me this is just across all episodes right?
So it doesn't actually include drop off I imagine.
Right, it's just just minutes watched in general.

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From these shows. Yeah, I guess the thing that
makes sorry, this makes me soundlike I'm at work, like I'm makes
me very curious how these compare.
Like is this all across all? I know it's across all episodes,
but is this indicative of how well the show did as a whole or
how popular it was at the start?You know, compared to how it was
exactly? Yeah, right.

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My my recollection for Accolade was it started strong but did
not finish strong. I remember that was my
impression too. Yep, Yep, exactly.
And you know, it's very possiblethat you know, skeleton crew,
right? It, it, it, it premiered, I know
a lot of people who, or even bigStar Wars fans hadn't quite

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watched it yet, but they caught up later as the week's went on.
And so it's possible skeleton crews, I mean, some of that.
I think the, the, maybe the mostdisappointing 1 is that the Bad
Batch was only #6 I'd love to have seen it a bit higher on the
list, just given that how great Star Wars animation is.
And the whole season was released in 2024 and early in

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the year. I mean, I I'll say I agree, but
also given that it's animated, yeah, feels pretty positive to
me. Like I know.
I think the list. You know, like X-Men 97 shows up
pretty highly as an animated show, but I think that was had a
much more of a built in audienceI imagine then.
Yeah, because it's the nostalgiafrom the 1997.

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It's that version of X-Men that really pulled in the audience.
Right. Yeah, I'm actually quite happy
with the bad Batch numbers that it it showed up that.
That I think the most interesting take away, and
actually we didn't mention this,but Ahsoka was in Mandalorian
season 3 and Mandalorian season 1.
Actually we're all just behind skeleton crew, so showing a lot

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of legs there as people go back and rewatch those seasons.
But the most interesting thing to me is I know you know, the
Acolyte was underperformed expectations, I guess we'll say,
but it's still #2 in the list. And so I wonder if they were
just expecting it to be far higher or if, you know, the
Acolyte underperformed. Maybe they just had oversized

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expectations for the Acolyte compared to other shows or if
all of them are, you know, low. It's interesting that Acolyte is
still near the top. When I had they did not meet
expectations. I guess I'll say yeah, not
necessarily a, a, a statement onthe other shows at all, or or
the Acolyte, but. You know, and this is, this is
also one I imagine where budget doesn't show up here either.

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Like there was that analysis from a while back, what, a few
months back when we looked at the budgets, yeah.
I imagine that plays a pretty big role here too.
Exactly. So anyway, interesting stuff to
see where the different shows rank in ranked in 2024 for that
entire year. Two other bits of news.

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I don't think we'll go into it too much because honestly it's
hard to get excited about anything film related until it's
actually in production. Very true.
But supposedly, according to Hollywood Reporter, Sean Levy's
movie is back in development andmay actually star Ryan Gosling.
Which is kind of surprising given, you know, Star Wars
doesn't always pick big name actors.

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And I'm I'm not sure how I feel about a big name actor like
that. I'm going to jump in on this
one, I'm sorry. I think I think Star Wars
sometimes works better, and I'veread this somewhere else and I
completely agree with the article.
It works better with some unknowns.
Oh, sure. For sure.
Having to be like, especially inthis case.
I mean, yes, you have a Rosario Dawson that's playing Ahsoka,

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OK. But Ryan Gosling, I'm going to
say, is probably the the bigger star of the two.
Oh, by far, By far, yeah. And and and and and then.
OK, and then you've got Jude Law.
Jude Law is a star, period. Even I don't even know if he's
on the same level though. Like I actually thank you.
I can't actually recall having seen anything with Jude Law in
it, believe it or not. Well, I've seen.

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I've seen a movie, I've seen movies with him in it.
But but they're not, they're notthe big movies like Ryan
Gosling. Yeah, OK.
And I think in this case I don'twant.
I hope this is false because then I think you have that big
name. Too well known you'll think
about him rather than. The movie.
It's a movie. Yeah.
Yes, exactly. And you're right, George has

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said that he intentionally cast smaller names.
I'm sure there are some big oneslike Liam Neeson was pretty big
at the time or Sir Alec Guinnesswas pretty big at the time, but
they were often in secondary roles, right?
Or leaving, leaving, leave. And obviously he was a big part
of the movie, but it's it's a little different.
He'd only, I think, just come off that success.
But supposedly that that movie will be pushed into the next in

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the queue after Mandalorian and Grogu, if it ends up coming, if
it ends up happening. So we'll see.
It's interesting news, but again, I wouldn't get too worked
up or excited about anything until we see a little more until
it becomes official. As soon as somebody sits here
and says the camera's going to roll, I'm not going to believe
it. Yeah, exactly.

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Hollywood Reporter also is reporting that the the film
about Ray from Charmaine Obeyed Chenoi is going to be written by
the George Nolte from The BourneUltimatum in Ocean's 12 films
and that it will be set 15 yearsafter The Rise of Skywalker.

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So that's interesting, you know,with Ray mentoring a new
generation of Jedi could be coolagain.
We'll see. It's hard to get excited about
anything this far out. And then lastly, the there is,
this has not been officially announced, but on the Penguin

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Random House UK website, a Bad Batch novel did show up, A Star
Wars Sanctuary by Lamar Giles. So we'll see if it actually ends
up happening. But I'd be all for reading a Bad
Batch book. And there is the Bad Batch comic
series. I'm less into the graphic novels
myself, so yeah, we'll see. I'd read the novel.

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Seems exciting, a good way to continue.
Yeah. Well, continue that story, fill
in that story, whatever, whatever next would be.
And we still don't know what thenext Star Wars animated TV
series is. I have to imagine we're gonna
get an announcement at Celebration Japan, right?
Celebrations when it's. It's I think April, March,
April. Yeah, I would expect so,

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especially 'cause we haven't heard anything about, you know,
animation staffing changes and things like that, right?
No, not that we've heard of. I've not heard anything.
Yeah. There's the hopefully.
Yeah, hopefully we get something.
I wonder if it'll, I was gonna say, I wonder if it's tied to
something else. We're gonna get like, maybe, I
guess maybe we'll get, I could see us getting news on like the

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Falloni movie and maybe this animation will tie into that
somehow. And certainly there'll be
information about Mandalorian and Grogu as well.
Yeah, and. Pandora.
And. Yeah.
And I imagine we're gonna get some kind of news for the next
Asians when that's gonna premiere because they did make
that announcement. Yeah, yeah, I can see that too.

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Yeah. So yeah, yeah, overall some
interesting news. We'll see if any of it pans out.
A lot of it's a rumor, but you know what?
It's not a rumor. And that is Skeleton Crew.
Tom, you want to take us into our look back at the series?
There are skeleton crew, we're doing a recap for season 1 and

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this happens to be, or the show revolved around 4 kids make a
mysterious discovery on their seemingly safe home planet.
They get lost in a strange and dangerous Galaxy finding their
way home, meaning unlikely aliens and enemies will be a
greater adventure than they everimagined.
I got to say one thing, I'm going to get this.

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I love the show because literally, I think it was a very
good breath of fresh air for theStar Wars franchise.
It wasn't tied really to anything we've seen before.
It set up a great mystery and itwas just.
It it was just. How it was done and executed was
very well done. Anyway, I I I start that off
that way. No, I I agree.

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Sorry, Steven, You had. You had.
Thoughts. Yeah, Steven, go ahead.
No, I, I was trying to come up with like a, a controversial
straw man to put out there. I, I think it might be one of
the, I put this as like #2 in live action Star Wars.
Oh, OK. I'm I'm a little hesitant to
hesitant on that, but I think itoverall hangs together as a, a

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story much better than like any of the Mandalorian seasons did.
Honestly, like I I enjoy The Mandalorian quite a bit, but a
lot of those seasons often felt a little uneven and the
storytelling was sometimes a little hot and cold, whereas I
feel like Skeleton Crew kind of just nailed it throughout.
I think, I think on that aspect,I would say Mandalorian season 1

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was probably the best one because it was something that we
have not seen before and it was a great character, great
storytelling all the way throughit.
And but it was still kind of tied within the Star Wars
universe. Whereas this one, it was so
fresh because yes, it's in Star Wars universe, but it wasn't

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directly connected until really the end of the series.
The last episode where they did connect it really to the Star
Wars universe. When you saw the X wings, yes,
you saw a couple X wings earlier.
When you saw the X wing and the Tante fly in, that really tied
it into the Star Wars universe. Well, and and that's what I

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think is so interesting about the show, right?
It is I, I agree with you, you both in that it's a, it was
really well done. And I love that feeling that you
got of optimism and, you know, exploring the Star Wars Galaxy
through the eyes of these kids who aren't really familiar with
the Galaxy because they've been sequestered for so long.

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And it's, I love that that optimism kind of, as we talked
about in the premiere, very Force Awakens, The Force Awakens
ask in that regard. And it's also very approachable
for new fans 'cause you don't need to know anything about Star
Wars. And so I think from that
standpoint, it's a really well done series.

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It is also probably the most different Star Wars series we've
had to date. And I think that is both a great
thing because it feels fresh andand different and unique.
And also it makes it kind of hard to almost compare against
the other existing shows becauseit feels so different, right?
It's not a, it's not a show about Obi Wan Kenobi or

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Mandalorians. And with, you know, the although
the, the lore of, you know, Mandalore and everything, it's
not like that. Oh my gosh, I can't.
This is so amazing. You know, connection with the
larger, broader Star Wars universe.
Right. And so in that way, it's like
set apart. You don't have that same level
of I love that Easter egg, but it's also because it doesn't
have that. It's almost more freeing in some

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ways. It makes a huge difference, I
think and not have the shadow and they use the word pandering,
which it has the slightly negative connotations, but it it
doesn't pander in that way. Like we see X wings but it's not
treated like a huge thing. The closest 'cause I I don't
remember did we see Carson Tiva in the the 3rd episode?

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No, no, no. Because I think, I think that
was the one thing we talked about when it came to the end of
the episode, when all the X Wingpilots, none of those X Wing
pilots were Carson Tiva at all. But there was no direct tie to
the rest of the universe. I, I give the show a lot of
credit for that, honestly, but here's I, I think another thing
that I showed that did well is like when, when we first saw the

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trailer, when we watched the first couple of episodes, you
know, the comparison, the obvious comparison was the
Goonies. It was this was the Star Wars
Goonies show. And I mean, sorry, I still
haven't actually seen the Goonies.
So I'm kind of asking you askingyou about this as a question.
But like, I feel like the show lives up to that in many ways,
Like. I will be honest, I have not

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seen it either and I will probably, if people were to
actually listen to the show, they are going to be probably
falling over going are you kidding?
You've never seen The Goonies. I really should go see it.
William, have you seen it? So believe it or not, no, I've
actually not seen it either. Well, you know what?
I. Know I'm the Goonies.
I Yeah, yeah. So fine, the secret is out, I

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point slightly. Yes.
This. Show was billed The Goonies.
The show was billed as Star WarsGoonies, and I, having never
seen The Goonies feel like it, delivered on that promise.
Someone could probably have to. Agree or not?
But, but I, I will say I, I haven't seen The Goonies, right,
but I think I have seen many of the other Amblin entertainment

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movies and shows like Stranger Things that are based on Amblin
entertainment, you know, ET being a great example.
And it 100% lives up to the veinof those types of things.
And so. Yeah, and I, I think this is
also a case where no, the show wasn't like, what's the word
like pushing ground or that's not the right word.

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Like it it wasn't trying to makehistory in terms of like
reinventing the Amblin entertainment style, like
however you want to describe it.But I think it the show took aim
at a, you know, a trope, a styleand just like nailed it through
and through. And I especially like we've had

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Tony shows, especially of late, like Book of Boba Fett or Acloit
Wear, you could tell they were going for a style, they were
going for a story, and then theyjust kind of fell short that
picking a landing, even if they weren't doing the triple
backflip to begin with. I I give them huge credit for.
Yeah. Yeah, no, I completely agree.

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It it definitely, it definitely on so many levels, worked just
exactly the way they wanted it to.
Yeah, you know, and it's, it's, it's not something where it's so
hard because I look back at like, yeah, the Mandalorian
season when we're like, oh, it'slike a, you know, like A at the
time, right. We didn't know what he what his
name was. Like it's like a baby Yoda,
right? Or it's a it, you know, that

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it's a we're going to Mandalore or it's Obi Wan Kenobi fighting
with Darth Vader right during, you know, between, between the
films. Like it doesn't have that same
level of Oh my gosh, or Anakin is back.
You know, it it it doesn't quitehave that level of fandom
excitement, right. And yet, like you said, Steven,

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it kind of frees the show quite a bit to be its own thing.
Just tell a really good story. And I think as a result, it's
definitely one of the in some ways higher quality Star Wars
shows that they've they've done.I get it's almost hard to
compare them. I it's hard to even say if it's
like my favorite or where it ranked just because it's so

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different and it gives you a very different feel while
watching it. But yeah, no, it, it, it was, it
was really, really well done. So I guess let's and I, well, I
was going to say and I, I think,I think I know we're going to
lead into this one. I think what helped the show is
you had four kids that were basically the main characters of

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the show. And to see these kids basically
developed through the series wasone of the best things about it
is you got to know the kids as you went along and you got to
you got to see their personalities and you got to see
them basically start out, you know, with this mystery and just
just grow all the way to the end, though, that was one of the

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best things about the series andand made it so approachable.
Yeah, for sure. So, so let's let's dive into the
the series and kind of look backat, you know, the, the show,
right? We, I guess we start with these
kids on a just just in a random suburb, right?

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Very classic amble and entertainment, and it's kind of
cool to see a Star Wars suburb. I remember when the show
started, we were like, wow, thisis very different, very unique.
There was a lot of theories I think we had around is it going
to be something a deeper, darkersecret?
And there there was a secret. I wouldn't say deeper or darker
really at all. It's, it's, there's not like a,

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something lurking underneath thesurface of the planet.
No, it's just, you know, I mean,yes, it's a, it's a giant vault,
but it's, it's not like malicious or scary or anything.
But you know, the, the kids, they, they, they find, they find
a ship hit buried in the ground and, and accidentally activate

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it and, and go on this adventurethat they weren't really ever
expecting, but it kind of teaches them a lot and they,
they end up back home. Eventually and it it's kind of a
fun adventure story. So let's let's start with what
did you think of the what do youthink of the kids?
Like we have we have whim, we have Fern, we have KB, we have

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Neil. Do you have a favorite character
of the of the four kids? I mean, if it's not Neil or KBI
think I, I have concerns, you know?
Team Neil for sure, right. Although I I really like, I like
William, I like Fern, I like KB.They're, they're all great, Tom.

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I, I, it, it's Team Neil in thiscase, I think the second, well,
the second character tag has gotto be Fern because to, to sit
her and sit her and watch her take charge basically almost
from episode 1 and continue thatthrough the whole thing was a
lot of fun to watch. And especially her character

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development in certain areas because in some cases she was
taking charge, but she still wasa kid, you know, and, and she
had that, yes. I, I'm, I'm going to stand up to
this. But, but then again, it was, it
was a great character development, I would say for all
the characters, but the, the onethat stands out the most is

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going to be Team Neil. Yeah.
I. I would be hard pressed to
disagree I I do have I think a soft spot for KBI.
Thought she had a lot of really great character development as
well. Yes, that's her too.
And just being, you know, the the robot type Cyborg is always
gonna be super cool. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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I will say, and maybe probably controversial, I found Wim the
the trickiest to like in a lot of ways, particularly early in
the season. He's very much the like the
idealistic kid to the point where you not frustrating, but
just maybe a little too sheltered and how he comes

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across in a lot of the sequenceslike a little too trusting, a
little too energetic. I do think the show pays it off
and grows him without losing that idealism though, so I I
can't be. But like, frustrated is not
quite the right word. But I think it's probably my my
least favorite of our four childprotagonists.

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Yeah, I, I can see that. I can see that.
I, I always really appreciated how he is a how you know, he
loves the Jedi and how excited he is.
I think that automatically drew me to him right away.
But he did take a little bit more to kind of his character to
kind of grow into it for for sure there.
Yeah, well, he was the one that wanted the adventure he always

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had. He was always the one that was
looking to the stars. He didn't want to be there
because he's also like, you know, when it got to the end of
the the the series, he's like, I've got to go back to that AT
and I've got to take my test to figure out what I'm going to be
in life. When he went through this full,
you know, adventure. Now he's going to go back to a
very boring life, you know, and that's not what he wanted,
especially at the end when you sat, when you saw him look up

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and see the X wings flying through the sky.
You know that basically he really doesn't want to go back
back and take that test and be basically just a cog in the
machine anymore, right. So it's.
And I think it's a testament to the show, right, that, yes, it's
four kids are like the main stars of the show.
You know, we have Jude Law playing John Underwood as well,

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but it's really the kids like JOD is not in many, there's many
episodes that JOD's not in or not a, a, a a focal point of.
It's the kids. And it's a testament to the
show. They're able to carry the series
because they are, they do a really good job of of being true
to how kids would act, but not being annoying or making the

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show feel too much like a kids show.
And so I think that's skeleton crew did really, really well.
Yeah, I agree. But totally.
I know I mentioned JOD. Let's turn our attention to JOD
and and SM 33 thoughts on those two characters.
I mean, I think they carry the show in so many ways.

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More JOD than SM 33. But I think I said this in our
finale, like not a secret that Jude Law is a phenomenal actor
like he has been. Totally.
I don't, I actually don't know if he's won an Oscar.
I assume he has, but just he played off the kids super well
and just brought this super complex character in John to

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life. Like every scene he's in, I feel
like he steals because he just does.
Maybe not the scenes, some of the scenes with Neil, Neil
steals, but beyond that, he justdoes such a great job, whether
it's menace or charm, scoundrel like he he really does play all
those roles in the show. Yeah.

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Believe it or not, I just lookedit up.
He did not win an Oscar. He's been nominated twice.
Yeah, disappointing, but he's phenomenal.
Yeah, no, no, he's, he's, I mean, it's just an outstanding
actor. It's I think even the kids
mentioned when they're acting with him, he was in, he
basically brought a lot of awe to the kids to where they're

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watching him. If I remember one of the kids
saying he's in a room where it'slike literally pretending
there's stuff going on and you could buy it even though there's
nothing around because how he was able to, to, to act in that
situation. And it seemed like they loved
working with him. So he really was a very good

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character and a very good actor in the show.
And he probably helped the kids in many ways in many of the
scenes. Because, my God, the scene in
which you pulled the lightsaber out the kids at the end where he
was like threatening them. I mean, I wouldn't want to have
been one of those kids in that scene.
No, for sure. Definitely not.
Yeah, no. And I think he did a good job.

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And one thing I liked about the show is that you never really
knew which side he was on, right?
Right. At first you're, you know,
thought, oh, maybe he's, he's good and then he's, he's bad.
And yeah, he kind of flipped a lot, but it didn't feel too much
like he as a character was flip flopping, right?
It felt like you were just learning more about his
character. And and there's just like

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different levels of the onion that you're peeling back.
And, you know, ultimately, they,they, they left him be mostly,
I'd say the bad guy, right? Yeah, he, he doesn't, I wouldn't
say he's pure evil, but he, he'swilling to do whatever he needs
to do to get his money. And if that requires betraying
people, he doesn't really want to seem to want to kill people,

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but he's willing to betray people and, and threaten them
and, and all that stuff. And they, I think we talked
about some of our review of the season finale.
They didn't, they didn't redeem him, which is an interesting
step and I'm glad they didn't try to do that, especially in
season 1. They didn't try to redeem him
and and that made him a really interesting character.

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Right. I just loved how I think it was
in the last episode, he was sitting there struggling.
It's like, I didn't want this tohappen.
I want, you know, make sure you don't harm the citizens of the
planet because I am as workers. This isn't what I wanted to
happen. Just just to watch all that was
a lot of fun, right to to see that happening.

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Yeah, I just, I appreciate like,especially over the last couple
of episodes, we go between, you know, him threatening the
children with the lightsaber, threatening to kill their
parents, trying to keep the workers alive.
And as he's especially with him just kind of disappearing by the
end, you really don't know wherewhere he stands.

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Really not good, probably not full evil.
And we, you know, probably won'tfind out until some other time.
Yeah, no, I, I, I liked it. I liked it quite a bit.
The other character you never really knew for sure about,
although he he, I was gonna say maybe he trended more good.

(28:47):
And I think that's true for a lot of the show, but not all of
it is SN33 or Smee, right? A a, a nice Peter Pan call back
there. He's a cool Droid.
He's, you know, he's a Droid that's kind of falling apart.
He's he's got that pirate accent.
He's got a, you know, creatures named snowball that lives in his
eye. And you know, he's one of those

(29:09):
again and sounds feels seems really terrifying at 1st and he
kind of becomes a friend for a lot of the show, although
sometimes he flips on them and attacks them and he's another
really cool Droid. I think, again, Star Wars has
some of the coolest, most uniqueDroid characters, and they just
continue to knock it out of the park every single time.
I don't know where they come up these ideas, but they're just,

(29:31):
they're great. Yeah, agreed I.
Agree. No, it's just.
William I, I'll even say that I was a little skeptical of me
when we first saw him. Like the pirate voice is a
little bit, you know, stereotypical man.

(29:56):
He threw on me by the end, you know, like I told.
You would say there's probably only one groan.
If you want to say anything about them that would make you
groan is when they're in the ship and Jude Laws like I'm
going to be captain of the ship and Smee goes where you can't be

(30:17):
captain of two ships at one time.
And Fern, I'm sorry, it was it was Wim who sat there and gets
who sits there and gets ready tosay I want.
And then Fern goes, well, I callinfinite samesies or kidsies or
whatever. And then you've got Jude Law's
character going well, you can't do that.
And it's me is like, Oh, what the heck, And punches out Jude
Law that. Was funny.
I mean, yeah, that was, that wasfunny.

(30:38):
But that would be the only, the only grown moment you could say
about that Droid where it's like, oh, come on.
But I agree. It was funny.
It was comedic. But that would be the only
thing, Yeah. I mean, you're right that that
back and forth is probably the only thing that felt the most
Kitty about the show. I guess I would say like the the
samesies thing. It was less on SM 33, even more

(30:58):
on the that that recurring joke,I guess.
But sorry, Steven, I think you were going to.
Say something I don't know, you know, for all all the challenges
Star Wars I think has had, like writing, getting consistent
writing out, they found a way toboth.
I want to say, make your make your droids entertaining and
lovable. And that to me, that moment, the

(31:20):
the samesies moment in the finalepisode or sorry, second last
episode. I guess to me that is where SM
33 gets to like we our Droid character gets personality, like
true personality. I guess I would say like this
doesn't seem to be programmed inthis is, you know, the Droid
making a choice that is probablyagainst programming.

(31:42):
And I think it's what makes him a, a full-fledged character,
that he has at least some amountof agency like that that he gets
to, you know, act with. Yeah, for sure, yes, I I
couldn't agree more. And then, you know, we had a lot
of the pirates. I think they were the of all the
characters, right, the pirates were probably the most a little

(32:04):
more one note, right, They had their Brutus was more of the
brute and they, you know, the pirate.
The rest of the pirates are morebackground characters.
I feel like they they weren't they're appropriately piratey,
but weren't, I would say not particularly notable, right, But
the the main cast was was phenomenal.
The parents were fine too. You know, they weren't really

(32:24):
the focus of the show, but the, the, you know, the kids, JOD SM
33 were all just so well done throughout the, the season.
And I, I really appreciate that.Let's see, looking back.
So the, the show, right, we go from from Adaton with the, the,
the basically the Star Wars suburb to the Onyx sender.

(32:46):
This, this really cool ship to port Borgo with the, the pirate
port, the observatory moon at Akron and then the Lanupa, the
spa. And then that takes us back to
Adaton in the end. I think one of the things I
really appreciate about SkeletonCrew was the variety of the
environments and how different and unique they were.

(33:09):
Even in the Star Wars Galaxy where we see a lot of like how
many times we've been to a snow planet or have we been to a
desert planet where it just feels, yeah, they're, they're
like, they're 90% the same. Yeah.
There's some small differences. Like, I get that, you know, and,
and you know, don't hit on me, but like Tatooine, Jakku and
Genosus, they're all very different planets where I I know

(33:29):
all the differences. I mean, but are they though?
But at the end of the day, they're all kind of desert
planets, right? And there's many more as well.
And but like this, you know, we had the kind of the Star Wars
suburb planet so that we haven'tseen before.
We had Port Borgo maybe verged on a little more on things we've
seen, like in, you know, Kenobi,for example, right.

(33:54):
But it was still relatively unique.
The observatory moon was really cool at Akron.
The fact that they then took at Aten and did a more of dystopian
copy of at Aten on the planet atAkron was probably one of the
the highlights for the 'cause I think at Aten maybe even been my
favorite location, but at Akron was pretty close just from how

(34:16):
it was an interesting twist on the on the place and even
Lanupa, the spa, the Star Wars spa.
You know, we've seen casinos before and Star Wars, we haven't
seen a resort. And so I just really appreciate
the variety of the of environments and planets that
they give us on this this show. I guess.

(34:38):
Steven, did you have a favorite location?
That's actually, that's actuallya really hard question.
It might have to be the Lanupa Ithink might be my favorite.
Ships also. Count.
Interesting. Oh, if the ships count.
Then I mean oh, that's actually sorry, I take that back.

(35:02):
I forgot about port borgo. Never mind.
I I this is not a choice I'm able to make like port borgo,
the Onyx cinder, especially after it you know feds it's
outer outer skin. Even the pirates trip at the
end. I really love the design of like
all all those phenomenal. I I would have to say I agree

(35:25):
with you, Steven. It's kind of hard to pick the
favorite, but I really loved theatmosphere of Port Borgo really
did That was just to see all those ships basically docked
within that port and then you get down to the actual port
itself. I mean, it's, it's really cool.

(35:45):
This will surprise no one, but like, you know, the cantinas,
you know, I think one of the quintessential Star Wars
moments, Star Wars tropes, you know this moment where your
characters are thrust into an alien environment, unless the
viewer is thrust into it as well.
And poor Borgo, I think is, is that moment in this show.

(36:07):
And sometimes they it, it flops.The I don't even remember what
it was like. The parlour in Book of Boba Fett
comes to mind as the one that just didn't quite resonate,
didn't quite feel right. But Port Borgo just nailed the
pirate den feeling perfectly. It had, you know, the variety of

(36:27):
aliens, the variety of ships, the kind of seating it feeling
the the jail, like just I felt like they really, really nailed
that. Yeah, wholeheartedly agree with
that. Yeah, it's just in general all
the environments and, and we're just so well done even like the
observatory moon, right? How it was just like a the, the

(36:50):
way it was shot with the, the surface of the moon and the
planet in the background. And within the observatory, all
of the, the, the data pads just strewn everywhere.
Just really well done set designin in all of these these cases.

(37:12):
And funny enough, I was actuallythere, I was reading an article
on stars.com about the production design and they're
talking about how many of these environments were actually done
on the volume, like the, the observatory moon was actually
filmed on the volume because they they just could never have
gotten that many that much stuffall over in in.
Real life, that I believe, yeah.But it did a really good job of

(37:34):
like it didn't feel, I feel likethey used the volume when it
made sense and they went had, you know, larger vistas when
that made sense. And it felt, it felt really well
done compared to maybe some of the other shows.
Yeah, I think it also, I wouldn't be surprised if you use
the volume for the exterior of the of the planetary moon
because that. Yeah, I mean, that that was just

(37:56):
the Baroness of the. What's the other thing about
that? You know, you're sitting here
seeing inside the observatory moon, but outside was just as
barren as it was. I found that fascinating.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, it it really it
really was I I thoughts any thoughts on the other on the the
locations or kind of some of thethe main story beats?

(38:18):
I mean, we could spend so much time talking about this.
We have already, but I. I will say I thought they did a
a phenomenal job with Ad Atten'svisual design, particularly the
barrier as well. Like I thought the visual
effects for this show as a whole, I felt I'd say as good as
we've gotten in The Mandalorian,which I tends to be like the the

(38:39):
top of the bar here from the Onyx Cinder, you know, to add
atoms barrier, obviously the pirate ships and stuff like
that. Like it.
It really did bring a lot of oomph and weight to all of the
kind of CGI scenes. I think the biggest thing I got

(38:59):
out of it was you could tell theamount of care they put into
everything, the set design, the character designs and, and they
didn't, they used their budget and they used it smart and they
made it all pay off down the line.
Yeah, it's all right. We were talking about accolade,

(39:20):
you know, in the news, obviouslythere's Ackley obviously had a
very high budget, but it didn't it didn't always feel like that
budget was being used. I there was no moment in this
show where I was like that. There's wasted budget.
How did this cost as much as it did?
Like it, it delivered across theboard.
Like every every scene felt right.

(39:40):
The characters even like, you know, super complex characters
like why am I blanking? The second in command of the
Pirates, the Schisteme. Yeah, Brutus, Brutus.
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, like even Brutus, who's
got, you know, a very complex, you know, I assume prosthetics
slash CGI going looked really good for the show.

(40:04):
There's like, hats off to the visual effects team.
Like they they knocked it out ofthe park.
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
It was just just so well done. And it's just, I feel like
exemplifies the show as a whole.Just really solid, really well
done. Not necessarily too flashy, but
is just like solid every step ofthe way.

(40:28):
Right. Yeah, and it like their time,
you know, I certainly I would love to see like, I don't know,
another Andor where, you know, ashow that truly blows my socks
off. But this is the type of like, if
if you gave me one, you know, two or three of these shows a
year, like, I would be beyond thrilled.

(40:48):
Yep, 2. Or three make a lot because I
know the show is expensive. But my point is the show was
incredibly solid and I don't think there's like a single, I
don't feel I I wish we got more at this level of quality.
Right, So I guess you know, I, I, I, you know, to your point,

(41:09):
Steve, I think the flow of the show also worked really well.
It didn't really ever feel like there was a like there was a, a
moment where the show kind of was treading water or, or
stopping in place. It felt like every episode was
absolutely critical, like to both understanding the
characters more and progressing the overall plot.
And it didn't feel like they were, you know, it's, I feel

(41:31):
like it's easy to fall into the trap of every episode we're on a
new planet and we're just tryingto figure out our way home.
We go to the next planet, we go to the next planet.
And while there were many locations that they visited, it
wasn't so short that it felt easy, But it wasn't so long that
it just felt like, oh, every episode we're on a new planet.
Like they'd they'd move to a different part of the planet or

(41:53):
they'd, you know, like it. It just, it felt like it flowed
well without ever dragging or feeling like it was going by too
quickly. And so I thought the pacing was
also maybe some of the best pacing overall in a Star Wars
show. I'll say even some of the
episodes where it felt like it, maybe not that it was a dry, but
like it felt like they're treading water.

(42:14):
Like the 4th episode comes to mind where they're on at Akron.
Like, multiple parts of that episode, you know, end up being
crucial to, like, Neil's character development or to, you
know, finding the gun on top of the school later.
Or finding the location of, you know, the next place.
And I think also that that it gives a lot more depth to the

(42:35):
the mints as well, you know, just the fact they're all
identical and exactly. Yeah.
It they just did such a good jobof like anything they set up.
I felt like they paid off, yes, which is again super like,
especially nowadays where shows like to, you know, leave mystery
and I'm I'm air quoting that a little bit because I, you know,

(42:59):
a good story for another time. I know all all the stories we're
told here. Anything that they brought up,
they paid off and you know, still left room for more if they
want to explore in the future. And I think that's that's the
best thing about it because the majority of the mysteries have,
like you said, have paid off, but there's still the bigger

(43:20):
mysteries of why were all these nine planets basically hidden
other than them being meant? But on top of that, how were
they all forgotten or why were they all forgotten?
And what happened to God, Jonathan Notwood?
What's going to happen to him, you know, so and then what's

(43:41):
going to now happen to the planet at at since it is now now
to the universe, everybody knowsit's there.
What's going to happen now that the New Republic knows it's
there and it is a mint? What are they going to do with
all that money? And what's going to happen to
the citizens? Because for all that time there,
they were run by a Droid. So they're not run by a Droid

(44:02):
anymore. So what is their purpose though?
That hopefully if there's a second season, we get to see the
repercussions of this. But within these episodes of the
first season, the majority of the questions that they had to
be concerned about for the firstseason were answered.
Now they laid the groundwork fora second season.

(44:23):
Yeah, No, you're, you're right. I'm actually glad you brought
those questions. I wanted to spend some time
discussing what might happen in a second season.
I think, you know, before we getinto that, there is and we
talked about some numbers earlier, but we actually have
some more numbers from the direct.
They're a couple weeks old at this point, or I think 2 weeks
old. I want to save them for our our

(44:44):
season recap episode. But according to the direct they
they report that the skeleton crew had 20% lower viewership
than the Acolyte based on Pureline minutes watch that we
saw earlier. It's actually far less than
that. But I think they're they're
talking more about the premiere,you know, John Watts, of course,
one of the creators of the show told Entertainment Weekly that

(45:07):
he's happy with people are finding the show and they've
been slowly building viewers over each episode, which is
great to hear. Right.
And he said that's really exciting thing to watch the
grow. And the word of mouth has been
really positive. We're excited to get everyone
get back together with everyone and talk about the future soon.
So it sounds like there's been no determinations made.
But the numbers, as I mentioned via the direct are if you look

(45:29):
at just purely like biggest premieres.
And this is just just for the episode or two.
So it doesn't factor in, you know, the later episodes in the
in the in the season. Mandalorian season 2 will have
the biggest premiere actually with 1 billion minutes just for
the premiere. Obi Wan Kenobi which was a 2

(45:50):
episode premiere had a billion minutes as well, just barely
below The Mandalorian season 2. Ahsoka had 830 eight,
129,000,000 minutes for their those two episodes.
Obviously 2 episodes means there's like double the number
of minutes potentially right? Or or at least more minutes.
Mandalorian season 3 by 823 million minutes, so just

(46:12):
slightly below Ahsoka then and or at 624 million acolytes
488,000,000. That one had two episodes.
Again, Book of Boba Fett had 389,000,000 minutes.
That was just one episode. And then Skeleton Crew had
382,000,000 minutes across 2 episodes.
So definitely lower, but I hope that, you know, just because

(46:36):
that that's what the premiere got initially in the first
couple weeks does not mean that's where the show is going
to stay and that hopefully there's a lot of more, a lot
more word of mouth people share it.
What do you guys think? Do you do you think we'll get a
second season? I had to guess.
I hope so the I will add just toyour numbers.
Peace William like the show alsoreleased around into the holiday
period, and I know that made forsome like interrupted watching,

(47:00):
especially like on our my household on my side.
But there's family in town, or, or you're watching Christmas
movies or whatever it is. Yeah, or you're just busy.
I, I hope that plays in the numbers.
I'll, I'll say this is just one of those moments where it's
like, oh man, please look, look at how people regard the show.
Look at sentiment. Not just, you know, the raw

(47:22):
number of minutes. Like.
Andor was kind of the same way because I think Andor's numbers,
you know, obviously lower. Like actually a great example is
like Andor versus Kenobi. Kenobi coming in what you say
like a billion minutes across 2 episodes.
Andor coming in at 624 million. Across 3 episodes, far worse.
Andor is very clearly the superior show.

(47:43):
We like more Andor not less Obi Wan 'cause I would like to see
more Obi Wan like more. Yes, I, I want them to invest in
shows like this that really deliver on their concept, really
feel like they're, they're nailed down versus a lot of what
we got in sometimes, which feelsnot half baked, but just like it
didn't quite come together fully, which is half baked, but

(48:05):
you know what I mean? Yeah, well and given.
Well, I'd like to see them take a look at the show and go, OK,
we understand that maybe the numbers aren't that great, but
look at the word of mouth and look at how a great, very fresh
idea comes into the Star Wars universe.
It's not knock and knock Acolyte, but it was technically,

(48:27):
if you look at it, Disney created part of this universe
because they created the High Republic.
So they put a show within the High Republic.
OK, This was basically a take within the Star Wars universe
that basically was just in universe.
There really was no other story behind it.
Every other property we've mentioned, there was already a
story created behind them. This was a completely fresh take

(48:51):
within the universe. Take a look at that and take a
look at, OK, maybe you didn't get, let's say the adult
demographic that basically goes and buys product.
Maybe you're not getting the animated because they're kids,
but maybe you're getting that that section of audience that
it's a fresh take. It's not a kid show audience,

(49:11):
but you're getting people who want to see a really good show
that's well written, well paced,well directed, and it's just
something new within the universe that we can grab onto
that we don't have to reference anything else that came before.
You, you know, and Tom, you, youtouched on a good point there,
right, that that the skeleton crew is the first show to be

(49:36):
truly detached from almost the entire Star Wars saga.
You know, Acolyte is in a new era and doesn't have any we
really know. But it's there is like
lightsabers and there's the Force and there's a lot of, you
know, a lot of stuff that you still kind of need to know about
Star Wars, even if it's not the same era.
Skeleton crew. It's just a bunch of kids going

(49:58):
on an adventure in space, right?You could take that show and
transport it into almost any other universe and you could
still retain 99% of the show forthe most part.
You know, yes, they're a lightsaber gets ignited a few
times and you know, you see X wings.
But it's like you don't need to know anything about Star Wars to

(50:18):
be able to enjoy it, which I think a great thing for
approachability for newer fans, more so than probably any of the
other Star Wars shows. And yet I think the thing that
makes it so approachable and so different also means that for
Star Wars fans out there and people who know about Star Wars,
they might be like, why would I check this out, right?

(50:39):
There's less of a reason to. And I think a lot of that comes
maybe down to marketing, right? Where, yeah, they had a bunch of
posts on social and stuff, but it felt like they didn't go that
hard with skeleton crew from a marketing standpoint.
And it's very possible that factored in to that, factored

(51:01):
into the lower numbers. So just people just didn't know.
Same thing with Andor, right? It's like unless you know,
unless you remember, Oh, Cassie and Andor is from Rogue one and
it's that spin off Star Wars movie that was really, really
good. Unless you know that you're like
Andor who why? Right.
If you think about it, the othershows, the Mandalorian, right,

(51:21):
which that just had a ton of buzz around and there was
already people already knew about culture, about
Mandalorian, Obi LAN Kenobi, Ahsoka, right.
Those were book of Boba Fett like big names in the in the
titles, right. And so it's very possible that
it's a marketing issue and not apeople don't want this issue.

(51:43):
And then if eventually overtime,hopefully with word of mouth,
more people will watch the show.So I I hope we get a second
season. I it.
Really does. I think Lucasfilm will look at
this show. This is just in Disney.
This is just purely my my guess,right?
Acolyte had a lot of it was polarizing.

(52:03):
Let's just shall we say, and it didn't it was expensive, it
didn't perform super well and itwas polarizing and that so
that's like an easy cancel, unfortunately, right and or cost
a ton to make. Didn't get great viewership, but
it had great word of mouth and picked up over time.
That's a a very good case to renew.

(52:24):
And I think skeleton crew is going to be a very similar boat.
I hope to and or where it's yeah, it might not.
It might have been, you know, not the biggest launch right out
the bat, but as long as it picksup some viewers and the the word
of mouth has been so good, I think they'll give it another
season just to see what happens.And if it doesn't do as well, it
might be the end. But yeah.

(52:45):
Yeah, the thing that's actually tricky here is you also have the
the ticking time bomb and, you know, Fern, KB, Wim, a little
bit less so on Neil. But they're, you know, these are
all kids. They're going to grow up and you
know, I'm trying to like they're, they're going to go
quickly. Right, well the the writer

(53:07):
finish your thoughts. Sorry.
And and that can make it tricky when you're, you know, trying to
do your sequel. We've seen it a little bit of
Stranger Things. And like, I'm particularly
curious how Stranger Things is going to handle its last season
where, you know, like the the show about a bunch of 10 and 12
year olds took, you know what, 3-4 years for its final season
to, you know, get filmed and puttogether.

(53:27):
I mean the kids. All almost double in age at this
point, right? Right.
Exactly. And and you can tell like all
which is to say, I hope if we get a second season, they green
light it quickly and they get ontop of producing it.
You know, this is not a case like where with Mandalorian was
it between season 2 and three, Ithink where we had, you know, a

(53:49):
massive like two or three-year gap.
Like we, I hope they they recognize what they have and
they they pounce on it. I agree, I think.
Oh, I, I am. It's interesting, though, I
think, well, one, the creative team is, is very is, is, it's
not like it's, you know, Dave flowing and Jon Favreau bouncing
back and forth between Mandalorian and Ahsoka and Book

(54:12):
of Boba Fett. And so it that may help them get
another season off the ground faster.
But I, I clearly agree with you,although I do wonder, you know,
something like Stranger Things had a big cliffhanger, for
example, at the end of every season.
Where do they go from here? Right?
I think they've wrapped up a lotof the storylines.

(54:34):
Do what do you guys think? Do they any theories on where
they go? Maybe the kids can age up quite
a bit before they. Deposedly the writers have
already taken that into consideration and it seems like
they have the idea if there is asecond.
This is what I've I've read. If there is going to be a second
season, they are going to take the kids ages into mind at that

(54:56):
point. But that is a very valid
question. Where do you go?
I've already brought up it's like, OK, well, you will see a
change on the planet at at because they're not going to be
run by a Droid anymore. OK, The New Republic now knows
they exist. They exist.
OK, And then what's going to happen to the money and the men?
So those right there are three questions.

(55:17):
If there's a second season that need to be answered one, but
then what are they going to do with the kid aspect of the show?
Because you're going to now havethem aged up.
How are they going to participate in the, you know,
the New Republic? The, the whole culture is going

(55:39):
to be changed because now they're, they're the, the, the
universe, all that stuff. It's going to be fascinating how
that second season is going to be put together.
But they supposedly, like I said, they have an idea.
So I guess do do you have any theories, Tom, of what they
might do? Like what would you like to see
in a second season? The the only thing I would think

(56:04):
is something around whim, you know, he finally gets a
different adventure. He's not going to be like his
dad. He's not going to be a cog in a
machine. I I don't know.
I could see probably Wynn's mom,no, Fern's mom, sorry, Fern's
mom actually now running the planet, something like that.

(56:25):
Because he was so, so involved with the supervisor and knew the
supervisor was Droid and the Droid was keeping an eye on her
and her daughter. I could see something like that,
but it's I, I could come up withso many theories, but the only
people that know what it's gonnalook like are the writers.
I for sure, for sure. But this is our opportunity to

(56:46):
speculate, Tom. Well, I, I, I'm Steven.
I think you're, yeah. Steven, you go.
I'm jumping at the bit here. Tom, you, Julie.
I'm bowing, I'm bowing. I am gonna bow out of this,
Steven. I'm giving it over to you.
So I I think it's telling that we never saw Captain Renaud.
Like we didn't see his appearance.
They intentionally obscured it from us.

(57:08):
Bro, I and beyond hearing that like that he there was a coup
and that they kind of imply thatled to the crash in the ship,
the Onyx cinder landing there. But I I would expect to see a
like treasure hunt across Adatonor, you know, captain Reynolds
final resting place, his tomb, his secret base, whatever it

(57:29):
might be. And I think that, you know, will
bring Jod back into it as he's also looking for the same thing
and perhaps drives us towards a,you know, what what happens to
this planet going for it? Maybe there's the New Republic
involved, maybe there's bounty hunters involved.
Whatever, whatever might be, I would expect to see that kind of
treasure hunt as our our final story here.

(57:51):
That would be cool. I I could see that OK that.
I'd love to see that one. Yeah, so I mean, there you go.
See, Jod is still out there, right?
We see Jod staring off into the distance at the end.
I would imagine they would pick up Jod's story.
We still don't. We know a little bit about his
back story. We actually don't know if Jod is
even his real name still, right?He has so many different names.

(58:15):
But I think, you know, they haveto deal with Jod somehow.
And maybe maybe you're right, Steven, he ties into that, that
hunt for Captain Renaud. You know, the kids are all home,
home safe. So they could go on another
adventure. I do think it makes a lot of
sense to just kind of continue the adventure.
Maybe they've already been on versus like it might be a little
convenient to stumble upon another adventure.

(58:36):
Although I could see that maybe aging up and maybe Wim decides
to become a maybe he trains to become a Jedi and finally gets
his dream of, of being a Jedi. You know a.
Jedi or X wing pilot? Either 1 you know, maybe he's an
X yeah, maybe he does become a Jedi, but he he becomes an X
wing pilot. That's his new, that's his new
thing right now he's seen the the X wings and his new dream.

(59:01):
So that could be cool. I know skeleton crew is rumored
to factor into Dave Filoni's movie in some way.
It's kind of supposed to be The Avengers, right?
Of the the the Filoni verse bringing in together Mandalorian
and Ahsoka and skeleton crew andbook a Boba Fett.
So who knows, maybe they'll factor into into that.

(59:22):
But whether it's like heir to the Empire, they're all, I don't
know how these kids would be involved in that.
Yeah. But you know, who knows it's
they're they're I'm sure they have a plan for bringing these
all together. You also mentioned like the
barrier, right, the planets exposed.
So do we see, could we see a, you know, like others in the

(59:42):
Galaxy trying to take advantage of of Adatin or maybe how Adatin
has to get reintegrated into therest of the Galaxy?
You know what happens to all themoney that's in the vaults?
Does it just go to the New Republic?
Does it get is that I'm just like crazy rich now, crazy rich
planet because they have all this, you know, all this money?

(01:00:02):
Yeah. Like it's the meant to even keep
operating and someone takes overthe role.
I think I could see Fern's mom Under Secretary Farah becoming
the supervisor. I think, as you said, Tom.
So yeah, it's there's a lot of really cool things you could do.
That would be a fascinating thing to keep the Mint working
with 1139 volts. I mean, depending on how Well,

(01:00:30):
No, it's a big Galaxy. Yeah.
That money would probably be spent within a day with all
that's true. Probably, Yeah.
No. Good point.
And if you think about it right,there's a giant.
Now we now know there's a giant pile of money out there.
Who needs a giant pile of money to build up a certain fleet in
the Unknown Regions, The 1st order or and Ortho right?

(01:00:59):
Like is it possible Thron tries to take Adaton?
I feel like it might be a littleclose to the plot of Skeleton
Crew, but Thron tries to take Adaton and the money for himself
so that he can build up his fleet or the 1st order or the
Imperial remnant at this point right comes in.

(01:01:19):
I hope they don't do that, or ifthey do, it's something that
happens purely in the background, yeah.
I. Well, I could say that being the
felony movie, not not skeleton crew season 2, you know,
potentially, yeah, fair. But you're right.
You know, I, I hope skeleton. Crew at least maintains the kind
of flight disconnect from the rest of the Galaxy That I think

(01:01:41):
is part of what made this seasonso successful.
I totally agree. I think that's I, I would like
to see that, but also I would love to hear somebody say
there's another show in development within within the
universe that will have almost the same take as skeleton Crew
where it's just I, I'm going to say no, the exact same take just

(01:02:04):
within the universe, but a different story somewhere else
and make it short like this. Make it short, self-contained,
done. Yeah, it'd be cool to see.
Well, I, I hope we get some moreannouncements maybe yet maybe
it's celebration Japan 'cause wereally don't know at this point
what's next for Star Wars. I mean, there's Andor there's we

(01:02:27):
know there's another season of visions, which is not doesn't
really count, right? We know there's has to be a new
animated series, but aside from the fact that, yeah, you know,
in in theory, we might be getting Mandalorian season 4
maybe. We're getting Ahsoka, aren't we?
We're getting Ahsoka right, but that's it.
So at some point we're getting Ahsoka, at some point we're
getting obviously this later this year, we're getting Andor

(01:02:50):
season 2. That's all we know.
And like Andor, it's the end of Andor, right?
So Andor is going to end, right?And then it's just Ahsoka.
Maybe The Mandalorian hopefully is coming back after the
Mandalorian Grogu movie. Like.
What's next, right? There's got to be an animated

(01:03:10):
show, show there's they have to have more live action series and
development. I'm glad they're not announcing
them early, unlike the movies, but yeah, I don't know.
I there's, there's a lot. They have to have other stuff in
the pipeline I would hope. All that stuff has to be passed

(01:03:33):
to come out at celebration. Some of it, maybe.
Yeah, that makes the logical sense.
Yeah. So yeah, it'll be, it'll be fun
to see what they announce and what they do.
I mean, it's the good thing is they're, you know, the creators
do definitely have a plan for a potential season, John Watts

(01:03:53):
told Entertainment Weekly. He said we've always had an idea
of where this could go even before we made our first season.
So there's a lot of potential out there and hope everyone
sees. It's fun to think of them
growing up and where they would fit into the Galaxy and how
their world would be changed by the events of what happens in
the first season. And Christopher Ford added an

(01:04:14):
interconnected wise how the events the other shows would
impact Adaton. It doesn't have to be a cameo
because if there's historical events happening in the Galaxy,
it's going to affect everyone. So, yeah, it's like I understand
the ramifications. That is pretty, pretty
interesting. Yeah.
Well, any other, I guess it's time for our, our, our rating,

(01:04:36):
right. How how would you rate skeleton
crew overall I guess? Steve, let's let everybody jump
first. Steven, you want to go first?
William, I mean, fine, I'll start.
I will volunteer. I really, really enjoyed

(01:04:57):
Skeleton crew. I don't think it ever had a you
know, it was never like the bestshow ever.
It ever blew my mind, I would say, but I enjoyed almost every
episode thoroughly end to end. Like it told a coherent story,
it developed its characters. It gave us, you know, some

(01:05:18):
outstanding visuals. I thought that none of those
sound like phenomenal, but like it just is a really solid show.
But I, I really do think of it in my mind.
I'm like, we talked about it some of like, you know, some of
the Bad batch episodes and things like that where it's just
like, if, if I could just get this regularly, I would be
beyond happy because it is the base level of quality that I

(01:05:41):
want to spend on, you know, spend my free time on.
So I'm going to give, I think itand the show as a whole an 8 out
of 10 womb rats. Obviously my womp rats are
spending all their time, you know, they were digging through
the Onyx Cinder trying to keep its systems working for the
moment when they knew it would one day rise again.

(01:06:02):
And now they, you know, are doing the same thing with the
hope of a Season 2 in the future.
OK, Tom. I, I've OK, I enjoyed the
episodes. I enjoyed the whole series.
I thought the fresh take on the whole thing was just
outstanding. All of it was just very well

(01:06:23):
written. I, I said so much for it
throughout the podcasts, but I'mjust going to say I'm going to
give the show an 8.75. Love to give it higher, but I
think that's going to be the settle of where I'm just going
to settle at. I really enjoy this.
I'm hoping it's going to get a second season because I think it
deserves it and I think if they do the second season like they

(01:06:44):
did this first one, it just it'sstill going to be an outstanding
series and I think they're goingto take that care if it gets a
second season to do exactly whatthey did the second time around
like they did with this one. So 8.75 my 8.7575 womp rats.
They're going to go back to the spa planet and they're just
going to relax and wait for a SEC for a second season.

(01:07:06):
Just that's the easiest thing tosay with this.
Just make it quiet and simple and just let them just not be,
you know, tortured in any way, though.
William, you're next. OK, yeah, I think you guys said
it really well. This was just such a solid,
really fun show. You know, again, it it never

(01:07:29):
quite reaches the highs of like,Oh my gosh, I can't believe it's
amazing, right? But not All Star Wars should do
that. And it makes it a lot more
approachable for for for fans. It was just a really, really fun
season overall. I thought the characters are
great. I thought the the adventure they
went on was a a a lot of fun. And so, yeah, I mean, it's what

(01:07:54):
can I say? Except that it's, it's just,
it's a great time. I've been waffling on the the
final score somewhere between 8:00 and 8 1/2 only because I
think it for me, right, because it didn't quite have those like,
Oh my gosh, moments. It's it's hard to give it a

(01:08:14):
little more than that. And there were some episodes
that were just really good, but not not perfect, but not, not
bad by any stretch. So I think, you know, my
average, I think was actually 8.2, but I'm going to, I'll just
give it an 8.5. I'll round it up.
I'll give it an 8.5. It was just a really fun show.
I, I enjoyed every moment of it and I would love, I really do

(01:08:37):
hope we get a second season and I think it deserves a second
season. I hope more people watch it.
Tell your friends if they haven't seen it already, because
it's a it's a really fun, reallyspecial show and I think it'd be
great to see see what happens next in this in this world.
So yeah, I guess 8 1/2 Wamprats and these 8 1/2 Wamprats,

(01:09:01):
they're just going to manage thevaults from from here on out.
They're going to make sure the vaults, you know, that the money
gets distributed correctly. The the credits are all
distributed and you know, someone's got to be security at
the the vaults. 8 1/2 Wamprat sounds like not that many for,
you know, 1138 volts, but they're they're pretty efficient

(01:09:21):
in what they do. Oh, this is fun.
Thank you guys for as always, for, for joining us and Tom
Steven for, for talking Star Wars with me.
It's always a a wonderful time and.
Always a pleasure. It's always fun to talk Star

(01:09:43):
Wars. With you, it is.
It is, Yeah. I think let's see next we have a
little bit of a break, right? We've got Andor in April, April
22nd Star Wars Celebration Japanis coming up April 18th through
20th, So just before and or season 2 premieres.

(01:10:07):
So you, you, you know, there's got to be a premiere at at
celebration. We'll see if we get any other
announcements before then. I think we probably won't get a
new series premiering before then.
They're probably going to hold alot of those announcements for
celebration. But if you're looking for a fun
read, Star Wars reign of the Empire, the mask of Fear by

(01:10:29):
Alexander Freed comes out on February 25th, just a month away
as you're listening to this. And it is a prequel series.
It's the first of a trilogy of prequel novels to and or
focusing on Belar, Ghana and MonMothma.
And it's it's pretty good. We may have to do a review of
the book because it's it's a lotof fun.

(01:10:51):
And of course, we'll be back, you know, with episodes here and
there over the next, what, 3 months, I think in our, in our
three month break until we get more, until we get more Star
Wars TV to talk about. But so we, we, we won't be going
anywhere. We'll still be around maybe less
frequent episodes just for, for,you know, a little bit of time.

(01:11:13):
But yeah, we're, it's, there's still more Star Wars to come.
And I can't wait to cover it allwith you guys.
And of course, we'll be coveringthe news coming out of Star Wars
Celebration Japan as well. With that, anything else to add,
guys? Otherwise, I think that's wraps
up our review of Skeleton Crew Season 1.

(01:11:34):
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