February 28, 2025 • 51 mins
What happens to your social media after you die? Does your digital ghost haunt the algorithm, or do you just fade into the void? In this episode, we dive into the eerie world of the digital afterlife—where companies are working to make sure you never really log off.
From AI-powered chatbots that mimic the dead to mind-uploading experiments straight out of a dystopian sci-fi novel, we’re exploring the bizarre and unsettling future of immortality online. Would you want your personality living forever in the cloud? What happens when billionaires and tech bros get involved? And how do we make sure we don’t end up stuck in a subscription-based afterlife?
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🎤 Diddy’s legal drama continues
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Nele (00:00):
Hey y'all Welcome to.
Is this how it Ends?
Podcast?
I'm Nell, I'm so and we're herefor this episode.
Let's get into it.
All right, so on to normal-ish,or maybe we should just call it
what in the doge, because it'stoo much to like.
(00:20):
Keep up with, I'm at a loss,but there were some shenanigans
that actually happened today.
On Monday, february 24th today,some hackers infiltrated the
Department of Housing and UrbanDevelopment headquarters in
Washington DC, broadcasting anAI-generated video of President
(00:43):
Donald Trump kissing Elon Musk'sfeet on cafeteria screens.
The video displayed themessaging Long Live the Real
King, highlighting concerns overMusk's influence in the
administration, particularlythrough his role overseeing the
Department of GovernmentEfficiency.
Hud spokeswoman Casey Lovettcondemned the incident as a
(01:04):
waste of taxpayer dollars andresources and stated that the
appropriate action would betaken against those responsible.
I mean, have you seen thisphoto, this video?
No, I haven't seen it.
Soph (01:17):
I guess I'm gonna have to check it out.
Nele (01:20):
Girl.
I was like, first of all, Idon't understand this, because
Musk doesn't actually.
Does he work for Doge?
He doesn't.
Soph (01:31):
Well, now they're saying he's an advisor to the president
.
How much money did this mangive?
How much money did he what youdid?
Just like the video where hisson.
He's in the Oval Office.
I guess Trump is sitting down,musk is speaking, trump is
nothing, or he has his son withhim.
I think the son turns to Trumpand is like what did he think?
(01:54):
I'm like you're not thepresident, you need to leave.
Yeah, this little boy, I knowYou're not the president, you
need to leave.
Nele (02:04):
I'm like what he heard this from his dad but it's
almost like you know, remember,you had to take your daughter to
work days, like take your kidsto work day, and I feel like
musk is the kid, but he'sactually running things and so
they're like okay, musk, youknow how you let the kid press
the button in the elevator.
You know it's like all right,musk is.
Like.
(02:24):
You all have to list fivethings that you've done and
email it to me, and it's justlike and then the White House,
the White House has intervenedand be like um, no, we did not
say that Ignore what Musk istelling you Every time.
Then it was another with thefederal workers, like if you
don't email him by like the endof the week or by the end of the
(02:47):
day, or something like that interms of like what you do, like
then you're fired.
It's just, it doesn't make anysense.
He keeps on putting out thesedirectives.
And then the white house has tobe like no, this isn't real.
Why do you keep on letting himdo this?
Soph (03:02):
He wants power really bad.
I think that's what happenswhen money is in politics.
Like you owe people, he owesyou.
Yeah, it's the only thing I canthink of, because I just felt
like when he was running, like I, there was like a.
I didn't get the sense that heparticularly liked.
Must you know?
(03:25):
Like it's really weird.
I follow it in bits and pieces.
I really just like I just can'tright.
It's so weird.
It's like the way it used to be.
You know, congress makes thelaws.
You know the president couldeither veto it or approve it,
but he's just executive order.
Executive order.
There's the laws.
The president could either vetoit or approve it, but he's just
(03:46):
executive order.
Nele (03:49):
There's no laws, there's no rules, it doesn't matter.
And I think Trump is probablyas a retaliation, he's probably
just going to cancel HUDaltogether, or maybe he'll put
Kim Kardashian as head of HUD,since he's just putting random
ass people.
Soph (04:07):
They were going to ask him for money they wanted money
from FEMA or something and hewas like no, he said some really
nasty things about Kim's wifeand, of course, still voted for
him and all of that really nastythings about Kemp's wife, and
you know Kemp is like, of course, you know, still voted for him
(04:28):
and all of that.
So I this is just a game to himand people are enabling this
and it's messing up a lot ofpeople's lives.
Nele (04:37):
These are people's lives.
Wasn't 9,000 federal workerswere fired from, like the IRS?
Soph (04:43):
Yeah.
Nele (04:46):
These people's lives.
Soph (04:47):
This is crazy.
Unemployment is already out ofcontrol.
It's an awful job market.
Now you have all of thesepeople.
It's out.
It's so cruel for me it'sreally cruel.
It's very cruel.
They're calling back people too, the DOE.
They let go of people,department of Energy, and they
(05:09):
call them back.
Nele (05:15):
There's like another department.
They did the same, and then Ijust see you guys don't know
what you're doing, you don't,and you're just live, yeah.
So that's it on the politicalfront Now in celeb news.
I really haven't been caringabout what's it on the political
front, um.
Now in celeb news.
Soph (05:26):
I really haven't been caring about what's going on um
if you gotta care, because Idon't care, like it's gonna be
okay.
Nele (05:34):
Okay, I care a little more than you do.
Um, I don't know if I want totalk about asap rocky being
acquitted.
Um, or that's Rihanna's man,just in case.
So that was Rihanna's man.
Yeah, it was like aren't therelike 20 ASAPs yeah, there's like
ASAP Ferg and like are they allASAP mob?
(05:55):
I think it's what's called girl.
We old, I don't know thesethings.
I just understand why rihanna'sstill with the man that wears
cornrows, but you know, to eachhis own.
Okay, these are some pisces,shenanigans.
Okay, I don't which I'm gonnaget in that ass later.
Okay, I was maybe gonna talkabout blake lively shenanigans,
(06:17):
you know, because no one'sreally liking her at this point,
but I decided to talk aboutDiddy because it's been a while
since.
Soph (06:25):
We talked about him last time.
You know, we talked about him.
Nele (06:31):
Oh yeah, we did a little bit, but there's an update.
So, first of all, diddy Zass isstill in jail.
His trial isn't until May, soit's almost happening.
He might as well just relaxLike you're not going anywhere.
So, apparently, on February21st, anthony Rico, one of
(06:53):
Diddy's defense attorneys, fileda motion to withdraw from
representing Combs in hisfederal case involving charges
of sex trafficking andracketeering.
Rico cited sufficient reasonsfor his decision but did not
disclose specifics, referencingattorney-client privilege.
He assured the court that hiswithdrawal would not impact the
trial scheduled on May 5th.
(07:13):
Combe remains incarcerated atthe Metropolitan Detention
Center in Brooklyn since hisarrest in September 2024.
Despite Rico's departure, combecontinues to be represented by
his remaining legal team.
Like something, something'sgoing on where he's just like
beach bad.
He's like no, they're justdropping off life flies.
(07:34):
I wonder is this the lawyerthat was?
Remember one of our episodes inthe beginning where he was
talking about like the baby oiland like defending, like why did
he have so much baby oil?
Cause that's what they sold atCostco.
And Costco was like girl, wedon't sell that Costco's.
(07:55):
Like we don't know her,absolutely not.
Soph (07:57):
I don't know.
I haven't been following, sothat's.
Nele (08:00):
Yeah, so it's.
It's just a whole.
There was a time I was reallyfollowing it and now it's just
like he's just gonna be in there.
He's tried everything.
Hunger strikes um.
At one point I did hear he waslike running things in there.
I don't know some kind of ringthat was going on with the other
prisoners, like making him likehis bitch and making his bed
(08:21):
and shit like that.
There's just a lot bullyingthem for phone time or whatever.
Yeah, I read somewhere I don'tknow if it's true, it's on
Lipstick Alley he's trying toreach out to Trump to get a
pardon.
Soph (08:37):
I was thinking about that that's allegedly all.
Nele (08:42):
I don't know.
I believe it, but I believe it,I believe it.
Soph (08:48):
Yeah, yeah, he's got to have enough money, because Trump
can't be bought yeah hedefinitely can be, but that's it
what I have for normal-ish.
Nele (09:00):
It's pretty short, y'all, because I wasn't paying these
celebrities, no mind, okay, eventhough ASAP Rocky, I really
think he did it like it was likefor shooting his friend, or
something like that.
Yeah, this is four years now.
Hmm, was it fatal?
I don't think so.
I think the friend is stillalive, but you know, rihanna's
(09:24):
showing up in her court fashions, she wasn't given.
Rihanna was looking tired.
I'm sure she was tired ofshelling out money for his, for
his legal team, or whatever youknow.
At the end, though, she huggedhim, she hugged the defense
lawyer and he hugged the defenselawyer.
I heard somewhere that theysaid they're going to name their
next baby after the defenselawyer.
(09:45):
Yeah, I just, I just don'tunderstand.
I just Covering your baby daddylegal fees.
But all right, money can't buytaste.
That's all I got to say.
All right, that's it for normalish y'all.
Soph (10:06):
So today's main topic we're going to.
We're going to be getting alittle.
We're going to getuncomfortably existential.
Oh OK, I'm ready.
I'm ready, we're going to talkabout death, but we're going to
make it digital.
As I mentioned, it's a little.
This is it's morbid, nowid now.
So what do you think happens toyour social media, or anyone's
(10:27):
social media, after they passaway?
Nele (10:29):
I don't know.
I've always wondered that.
Soph (10:33):
Yeah, I mean, I've never really thought about it, right,
does it?
Does your old ghost haunt thealgorithm?
Do your old text tweets andthirst traps live on forever?
Maybe some poor relative theygot to go in there, they got to
shut it down, or I remember likeon linkedin, like if someone
passes, like somebody will quote, will you know, post a message?
(10:54):
Right, obviously you can getaccess to so I think facebook
and all that you can get accessto a deceased person's um
profiles if you can prove thatyou know what that relationship
is.
So, you know, I do recall seeingthese and I'm like, oh my God,
that's so sad.
Well, even if you're notthinking about it, companies are
(11:14):
you know?
It turns out that there aresome companies working to make
sure you don't just disappearinto the void and they want to
keep you talking, maybe forever.
Nele (11:23):
No, absolutely not.
So I'm tired of this.
Okay, first it was with theuncle and the auntie, with the
ai people, so now they're goingto use ai to be you when you're
not even here.
Girl, it's absolutely notstrapping, okay, so, no, no, no,
it's going to be more of thenotes, okay, okay, all right.
Soph (11:48):
So it's a rapidly growing field.
It's, you know, the world ofdigital afterlife services,
memory preservations and,because we love a good dystopian
twist, mind uploading.
So, from chat bots trained onthe dead to the possibility of
rich people becoming AI gods,we're going to talk about it
(12:08):
Like, if we can live foreveronline, would we want to and
should we, would you want toroam online forever?
Nele (12:16):
Well, here's the thing.
So I mean, I wouldn't want todeny the future of my wit, you
know.
So maybe Maybe Just saying Imean, maybe we could continue
podcasting forever.
Who?
Soph (12:30):
knows Possibly, yeah, it happens.
So let's start off with a story.
It's really short, so imagineyou're at a funeral, everyone's
mourning, you're sharingmemories, you're taking pictures
, which I think is really weirdwhen people take pictures at
funerals.
(12:51):
But I've done it too, so it'sworth it.
Nele (12:53):
It's worth it to take pictures of the casket.
I've seen people do that.
Oh, that's weird.
Soph (12:56):
Yeah, I've seen people do that, but I don't even go near
the casket, like I want to seethat because that would give me
nightmares forever.
You even go near the casket,like I don't want to see that
because that would give menightmares forever.
You know, um, but you know justthe usual stuff that you do at
a funeral, but mostly morning.
You know this person is in thecasket and it's, it's really sad
, and then suddenly the dearlydeparted starts talking and not
(13:17):
in a like I'm haunting you way,but like on a screen responding
to questions in real time, andthis isn't some horror movie
plot I mean, we've seen them alot but this actually happened.
And this and a lot of what I'llbe discussing is courtesy of an
article from the Conversationtitled Logging Off Life but
(13:42):
Living On how AI is RedefiningDeath, memory and Immortality.
So this person who spoke at herfuneral spoke was named Marina
Smith and she used a systemcalled Storyfile, and Storyfile
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is a company that pre-recordedher answers and then used AI to
create a natural back and forthconversation.
So it felt like she was in theroom and I think I read her son
is one of the creators or istied to Storyfile, so it made
sense that he would pick hismother to do this, and I kind of
(14:26):
get it right.
In the one hand, we all want tohold on to people that we love,
hear their voices one last time, tell them that one thing we
never got a chance to.
We want closure.
But let's be real, this is someBlack Mirror like freaky scary
loopy Looky here.
Nele (14:42):
I'm not a christian, okay, but I rebuke this.
Okay, I got five bibles on mybookshelf.
I rebuke this.
Why do you have five bibles?
I went to all right, I went tochristian school.
I've studied bibles and youcan't just throw away a bible.
You can't just give away abible like you just keep, that's
(15:02):
true, yeah, yeah, yes.
I have several bibles back here,okay, and these are the end of
days.
So this is the end of days.
Jesus does not want this, goddoes not want this.
Just let us die, just letpeople die, because here's the
thing.
There's some people that surewe love and we want to hold on,
(15:27):
but I want some people to begone when Trump dies, I want
Trump to be gone.
Soph (15:34):
Don't come back.
Yeah, you know what I thoughtabout.
There's always some kind ofdrama at funerals Not always,
but sometimes there's drama.
The few that I've been to,there's always some kind of
drama at funerals.
Not always, but sometimesthere's drama.
The few that I've been tothere's like drama.
Imagine if they're like.
You know, if they're like.
Well, uncle Bobby said you owehim some money.
Technically, we have a UncleBobby here to confirm, okay.
Nele (15:57):
Oh girl, thank you, that's a.
I can see.
If that was me, I'd be spillingeverybody's tea, okay, because
you know people tell meeverything, okay.
So I definitely would have beenlike girl.
Soph (16:08):
Oh my God.
And they're scurrying your textmessages.
Like you know, your likeeverything, so they could have,
they, might, they might have allthe tea of people like texting
you stuff.
So everything I texted you,janelle, you texted me.
Nele (16:24):
I don't know, I could be messy from the afterlife, but in
the present, okay, all right,maybe I'm being sold on this.
Maybe I'm being sold on this alittle bit.
Soph (16:36):
Well, let's, let's keep going, and this is so.
This is like this is just astart, right?
So at her funeral, it was justbased on pre-recorded responses,
but you know, as I mentioned,they can start feeding from all
of your social medias, from allyour emails, your text messages,
voice recordings, into aprogram that creates a real time
(17:01):
AI version of you that adaptsand evolves Because spoiler
alert, that's already happening.
Okay, that is already happening.
So let's talk about Facebookreal quick.
I know you don't have Facebook,right, I don't, it is.
It is a really weird place, likeyou just never know what you're
(17:21):
going to see on there, likeit's like conspiracy theory from
that one weird kid in highschool which it's me, y'all I'm
that I'm not close on Facebook,you know or an announcement from
a friend saying they're havinga baby.
You're like what baby.
Nele (17:37):
When I was on Facebook I did get called a racist one time
by some girl in high school.
Shout out to Leanne.
Soph (17:47):
Why Leanne, why Leanne?
Nele (17:52):
I don't remember what I said, but she was like, oh,
you're so racist.
And I was like, all right girl.
Soph (18:03):
I think the really weird things like sometimes I'll see
friends stuff.
Sometimes I don't Like mymother-in-law.
All she does is post like BettyBoo pictures and they're all
always cute.
But that's what she does onFacebook and all of the socials.
If they want to scrape herstuff, that's all they'll get.
At one point Facebook came outwhen we were in college.
(18:27):
All our pictures were on there.
Remember we were like we'llnever wear the same outfit twice
because we don't want someoneto post it to Facebook.
Now we just don't care.
But yeah, so it was.
It was the website.
For a very long time it was thesocial media, especially for us
millennials and definitely forolder folks, because that's how
(18:49):
they get got on Facebook all thedamn time.
Yup, I still have albums onthere in random posts Anytime I
go back to my old.
Why did I even write this?
Nele (19:00):
Girl.
I definitely my name on therewas Hot Sauce.
Hot Sauce Janelle, hot SauceGreen.
I don't know how it spread, buteven my mama was calling me Hot
Sauce.
I was Hot Sauce in thesestreets.
This is a little racist.
Maybe that's why Leigh-Annecalled me hot sauce.
I was hot sauce in thesestreets and you know how we can.
This is a little racist.
But maybe that's why Leannecalled me a racist.
Remember Flavor of Love?
It had the nicknames.
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And so Cynthia, because she wasAsian, she called herself
Noodles, and then I forgot whatthe other one, what the other
girl, called herself, andbecause I was Black, I called
myself Hot Sauce.
And next thing, you know it'shot sauce in these streets.
I'm sure I still have my albumsup there.
(19:42):
I just never like.
When they started asking forlike identification and stuff
like that, I was like nope, no,thank you.
You never asked me for it.
Soph (19:49):
But I'm still on there, um and, but Facebook is like it's,
an unintentional digitalgraveyard.
So there are over 30 millionfacebook accounts belonging to
people who have passed on.
Oh, wow, yeah, and by the endof the century, experts say the
(20:15):
dead might out AI profiles likeGrandpa Brian, but 30 million
currently that they know ofright, that belong to people who
have passed.
And I think Twitter had thesame issue and they were saying
that they were going to deleteaccounts of people who haven't
logged on in a long time.
(20:36):
A lot of families were like no,you know, because they belong
to people who are close to themwho've passed away, and they
wanted to keep that.
You know, they wanted to keepthat memory alive To me.
I find that like I don't wantto come across like, if I'm
strolling through social, like Icome across you know someone
that I love who's passed.
Like that's just going to be.
It's not going to be good formy healing process.
(20:59):
Yeah, that's crazy so all thoseaccounts you know someone.
Unless someone shuts it down,it could just linger, you know,
and again it does turn intomemorial pages, while others get
locked out, leaving them toexist like abandoned digital
(21:19):
tombstones.
And here's where it gets alittle weird.
There are companies out there,companies like it's called Good
Trust and Hereafter AI, offeringservices where they'll gather
all your digital footprints,your text, your emails, your
voice recordings, and turn theminto a chat bot that can speak
(21:42):
as you, so as you're living.
You could give them access tothis and they'll create this for
you absolutely not.
No, no, yeah, no so you know,instead of liking a picture of
you know your deceased grandmaon her birthday every year.
You could chat with her AIversion.
(22:02):
You could ask questions, getlife advice, you can hear her
tell you why you're not marriedyet, when are you going to have
kids, family, and blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
Why are you not talking to yourfather?
All of that, so, if that's whatyou want.
(22:25):
So there's a story about thisguy, joshua Burbo, who, eight
years after his fiancee passed,he used an AI platform called
Project December to create achatbot simulating conversations
with her.
He inputted her past textmessages, information about her
personality, and through this,he was able to, like, engage in
lifelike dialogues with the AIrepresentation of her, and he
(22:47):
said it aided him in processinghis prolonged grief.
And I'll add the article in theshow notes.
It's really fascinating and sadand a hopeful read.
You know like, as you're, youcould see some of the text
messages back and forth with herand it felt like at some, a lot
of it felt like he was actuallytalking to her.
You know like it just felt likea fluid conversation and he
(23:09):
said there were things that thechatbot said that it made it
feel like he was talking to her,but then there was also
something she would say he'slike that's not quite her, but
for the most part it just feltreally real.
So you know, would you wantthinking about that?
Would you want to have an ex oreven a family member reanimate
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you digitally?
No, especially like an ex, whoeven a family member, reanimate
you digitally.
Nele (23:39):
No, imagine especially like an ex, especially like an
ex who hated you, and you sayall kind of shit to me
absolutely not, bish, absolutelynot.
You're blocked in life anddeath.
You will not have theopportunity.
But you know this reminds me ofso don't ask me why.
I know this.
Don't judge me, okay, I will not, not too much, maybe a little
(24:00):
there is this woman on youtubethat I'm fascinated with and
she's supposed to be this, uh,youtube guru or whatever, and
she faked her death.
But this woman was such anarcissist that she couldn't
stay away.
(24:20):
She faked her death right.
And you know, when you seesometimes because it does happen
, you're on youtube, because I'mon youtube a lot and then you
see like, oh, like someone died.
You know, like, oh, that's sad.
You never think that whensomeone dies that they're
actually faking it.
But I was like this woman'sfaking it.
I didn't feel sad, I was likethis woman's crazy, I know she's
faking it.
(24:40):
She even had a post on Facebookwith the angel wings in the back
and it was an announcement thatshe passed away.
She said she I don't have to becareful with the words but she
took her own, her own life orwhatever, and there was this
whole announcement and that hermoderator for the, for her
(25:03):
moderator for her channel, hadthe access to her account to
like, post all this stuff.
So people are confused.
So like, is she alive?
Is she dead?
Like what's going on?
Initially people thought thatshe did.
She did die, but she couldn'tstay away.
She could not stay away.
So then a live pops up.
(25:23):
You know how you do, like the,the lies, the countdowns for the
lives or whatever like, and soI'm like if you're dead, why is
there a a live countdown goingon?
So then we're all confused.
And then there was another postfrom her, from her moderator,
(25:44):
asking to donate because shecould.
You, it's illegal to.
If you fake your death and youask for donations, like for the
family, like if you collectthose funds, it's illegal.
So she was asking for the fundsto be sent to her son for her
son's birthday, and the son waslike maybe two years old or
whatever, and so she also put upa song.
(26:10):
This is after she's died.
She puts up a song you knowthose emojis from um, like on
your iphones, where it's likeyour cartoon and you sing her.
So she did a song and she'ssinging and the video gets put
up, but you're supposed to bedead.
She did it all for donationsbecause she stays begging.
Soph (26:38):
Maybe she did and then someone brought her back to life
digitally.
Nele (26:43):
She tried to bring herself back to life, okay, digitally.
It was just the weirdest thingI had ever heard of and she's
still alive to this day and lifeis really hard for her.
But ever since her faking herdeath, but still like engaging
with people online and like shewas, like you could see her on
(27:05):
Facebook, like liking posts,girl maybe someone took control
of her account absolutely not,absolutely not.
She's batshit, but I'm batshitbecause I still follow her to
this day, you know.
Soph (27:24):
So that's still a interesting question, though.
Like, well, she clearly fakedit, but someone who did and
they're doing that stuff withtheir likeness, like yeah, like
who controls your digitalversion of all that stuff?
Like who gets to control that?
And that's why they're tellingpeople in some states have laws
(27:45):
that you can put that in yourwill.
Right, like what if you were topass away?
Like you want it all to bedeleted or whatever it is you
want to do with it?
Like states have, you can putthat in your will that makes
sense.
Nele (28:01):
I think it also should be a part of you know the terms
when you sign up for you knowthese platforms.
There should be some kind ofthing to check off like I don't
want you.
I mean they're not going to dothat.
I mean, no one's readingdisclosure, reads it, but maybe
we need to.
I never I'm like what, exceptall cookies.
Yes, I don't know what a cookieis.
Soph (28:23):
I should never read the terms agreement like yeah, yeah,
they're fine, I know because wedon't know what we're signing
we don't, yeah, and that mightget worse if there is, like this
digital afterlife and we're notreading anything.
Who knows what they're going tobe asking of us because we're
not real.
So, but so, that's just so.
That's the digital stuff,that's just that's.
(28:44):
You know, your social scrapingand all of that to create like a
chat bot or to create like anavatar of you online.
But we can take this a stepfurther.
You've heard of, you've heardof Neuralink, right, elon Musk's
brain chip project.
Yes, yeah.
So I mean, the main goal is fornow is medical.
(29:05):
It's helping people, like withparalysis, regain function.
It's very noble.
But Musk has teased the idea ofstoring human consciousness
digitally, as in backing up yourbrain like an iPhone, and
that's some mad scientist shitand very in line with the super
villain personality.
Ok, that man is a villain.
Nele (29:24):
That is awful, soph, because who wants to back up
evil dictators' brains?
How much money this will makeif they could do this, that's.
That's crazy.
Like you want these people tojust die so the next generation
doesn't have to deal with thesepeople, so certain things can
continue to live on.
(29:45):
Absolutely not, absolutely not.
Nope, I don't like it.
I don't like it, but that'sNeuralink.
Soph (29:50):
There's another company.
It's called Nectone.
So this company, a company thatwants to use high tech
embalming techniques to preservethe human brain so that one day
, when technology catches up,they can scan and upload your
(30:11):
entire consciousness.
The catch you have to be alivewhile they do it and the process
is not survivable.
So, yes, you die, notsurvivable.
So, yes, you die, but in theory, your digital self could live
on after you die through thisprocess.
But because of ethical and justa whole host of other issues,
like you dying, this process isnot available to the public.
Also, if this was possible andthey uploaded your brain, are
you just living in the mainframe?
(30:33):
Could you imagine that You'rejust in this?
you're just in the computer youknow like will they find a robot
body for you or a non-sentienthuman clone?
Do an episode on an episode onresearch that looks at replacing
the aging parts of the brainwith new parts as a way of
(30:54):
expanding life, and the newbrain would need a new body so
they would grow, thesenon-sentient human clones.
Since you know the body ages, Iwill also link that episode in
the show notes.
We're kind of morbid, or I'mkind of morbid for the stories
that I think.
Nele (31:10):
I mean, it's all, everything is just sad,
everything is sad.
Soph (31:16):
Yeah, and there's also, there's also.
There's another company andthere's a lot of these companies
, but there's another one and,by the way, nectone.
They had people who said theywere interested.
It was, I think I won't evensay the name because I'm not too
sure but there were like highprofile people who were
interested in this, in thisprocess, to do this, so but it's
(31:38):
there's no way they can,there's no way.
Way because it's it's almostlike a cystic suicide, so, which
is illegal.
There are a ton of othercompanies, but the last one I'll
mention is eternime.
It's a startup that wants toturn people into ai avatars, so
it's complete with your thoughts, your memories, your
personality, so you could existafter death.
(31:58):
Um, it's in um beta testing,with over 40 000 individuals
signed up to contribute theirdata and participate in refining
the technology so technically,if it's your thoughts, your
memories, your personality,that's.
That's a simulation.
Like you're, you're livingonline, like it's.
So they say, humans.
You know, eventually, if youevolve enough or have the
(32:19):
technology, you will createsimulations, right so, which has
me thinking?
Simulation theory is somethingthat's being debated right now,
like are we in a simulation?
That's that some other?
You know civilization, you knowcreate us, you know create this
stimulation because they wantedto continue?
I don't know, but it is a hotmess.
I don't, it is a simulation.
(32:41):
I hate y'all so much.
This is awful.
Nele (32:44):
Two thoughts.
One, I hated the holograms, theholograms of people that passed
away singers.
I don't want to see a Whitneyhologram.
Okay, I just look on YouTube,see her videos.
That's enough for me, I don'tneed that.
We have her music.
But her videos, that's enoughfor me, I don't need that.
(33:06):
You have her music.
Um, but also, just thinkingabout now in terms of people and
who they are and theirpersonalities, I feel like a lot
, of, a lot of us aren'tindividuals anymore and a lot of
it is shaped on who we want tobe on social.
It is shaped on who we want tobe on social media, like who we
would present, like, and so now,if you want to be someone that
(33:27):
lives on forever based off ofyour thoughts and who you are
and who you present on socialmedia, you'll never be your
authentic self, because you'recreating the self that you want
to live on forever, and sothere's already so many things
that are just taking away ourauthenticity and I feel like
this is like we can't even.
We can't even just die and havepeople just live with the
(33:49):
memories like that we've createdwith, like actual, real human
beings.
Now it's just based off of youknow what we put out there into
like the internet.
It's really gross, it's reallycreepy.
Soph (34:02):
It is creepy.
Who can afford this right?
Like when we talk about stufflike this.
This takes a lot of competingpower, like who can afford this?
So now you have rich peoplebecoming almost godlike.
You know you'll have Tom Cruisemaking like 3,000 more Mission
Impossibles.
Like no one is asking for this.
Nele (34:25):
Fast and Furious 105.
Soph (34:29):
The billionaires like Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg creating
digital versions of themselves.
They'll be first online.
I'm sure they know what's goingon.
We need to kickstart this Now.
They don't just own the worldin life, but in perpetuity.
The final flex, and I'm nothere for that shit.
Nele (34:46):
But also like, let's say, this can be affordable, right.
Let's say, whatever, right, wealready have.
This is where my mind goes.
We already have dropping birthrates, right.
And then people talk aboutlegacy, legacy, legacy.
Right Now, your legacy doesn'teven have to be through children
anymore.
It can be hey, I can live onforever as myself.
(35:09):
Yeah, you know.
So it'll be a different kind oflegacy.
Soph (35:15):
Yeah, you could continue to shape things and do things
and have, you know, still havethe same power.
I'm sure they'll find a way.
Yep, yeah, I don't know, evenif you can't afford it, but you
know there's going to be asubscription fee, right, it's
going to be like a month beforeyou get deleted, so what's it
going to be?
Now you're like you living inthis mainframe, and they're like
(35:37):
well, you didn't pay your.
Nele (35:42):
You didn't pay your fees so we just won't have to go dark
.
Or maybe like as a punishmentor something like that.
They'll like mix different, Idon't know what you call them
personalities.
So maybe because my card gotdeclined, now I'll live on
forever as like a sexy red kindof clone or something like that.
Or you know, I'll be combined alittle bit of Cardi B dashed in
there as like a punishment.
Soph (36:05):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want this.
I already said like, and do youhave to work now in this like
virtual world?
If you are, if you're not rich,like, I don't want this,
because how are you going to paythat $19.99 a month to keep
living?
That's true, you might have tobuy more power.
(36:29):
The more things you want to do.
You need more cloud space.
Nele (36:35):
Yeah, because Apple they're taking $9.99 and I'm
just like what for Apple?
Just feeds these random assfeeds for the cloud.
I'm like what?
What's going on?
Apple?
Soph (36:46):
Based on how much you pay.
Are you going to be onedimension, two dimension or even
stick figures?
Girl.
Nele (36:51):
I'll have the stick figure plan.
Ok, Some popsicle sticks.
Soph (36:59):
Oh my God.
So I love connecting like thesetech stories with, like you
know, books and movies, causeyou know they've spoken about
this before.
Nele (37:09):
Have you?
Soph (37:10):
do you read Kurt Vonnegut or have you read any of his
books or short stories?
Okay, so I, I like him.
He's really funny.
We had to read him at Skidmoreas part of our freshman class
and I was like this book wasreally good.
So I read a couple more of hisstuff.
So there's a short story hewrote.
It's called Unready to Wear.
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It was about people who figuredout how to dish their bodies
completely and live as free,floating minds no eating, no
sleeping, no aging, just pureconsciousnessing in the universe
.
It was ultimate freedom.
But then you had people whoweren't ready for all that.
These folks were like no thanks, I like having a body, I like
(37:52):
eating, I like arguing onTwitter and wearing
uncomfortable shoes for noreason.
And I feel like that's kind ofwhere we would be with this
whole AI afterlife situation,you know, because, if we're
honest, we are the unready towear people.
Sure, we talk about wanting toupload our brains, but do we
really want to spend forevertrapped in a data center, you
(38:13):
know, surrounded by pop-up ads,and stuck in a group chat with
all of our exes because youforgot to turn off notification
before?
Nele (38:18):
you child?
You not gonna.
I blocked your ass in real life.
You not going to haunt me inthe digital afterlife.
You do not exist anymore.
Soph (38:27):
Okay, can you imagine like what this digital, or maybe it
will become like the truesimulation where, like, we're
living this life there, which tome that's just shitty, no so he
wrote this book and although itwasn't, that's just shitty no,
absolutely not.
So he wrote this book and,although it wasn't really
tech-like, but he wrote thisbook, and he wrote it in 1953.
(38:50):
So he saw this coming.
He thought we'd be floatingminds and not Twitter gulps and
AI chatbots.
He's probably saying somethinglike you idiots finally figured
out how to separate minds frombodies and you choose to spend
it making TikToks Unbelievable,and he'd be correct.
Nele (39:06):
Yeah, wow.
Soph (39:13):
That's the main story.
Nele (39:16):
I'm scared.
Soph (39:17):
I'm scared, there's a lot like people are looking into,
like what goes on up here, howcan they tap into it?
And there's so much more.
It's huge science and you knowI feel like we've spoken about
it a lot.
Last time we spoke about, likeyou know, companies needing to
monitor if you're fatigued, ifyou're not engaged fatigue if
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you're not engaged.
That's real tech.
That's out there.
You know other things wherethey're replacing whole parts of
the brain, like it's justthere's a lot of money being
thrown at this, so I'd beinterested in seeing what it
looks like, you know, 20 yearsfrom now.
And now there's breakthroughsin quantum computing, so which
might be able to help with someof this stuff?
Nele (40:01):
But yeah, so Flick, I might have to turn my soul over
to the Lord.
Now to Jesus, because these arethe end of days.
I'm going to hold my Bible andsing some never would have made
it just Mahalia Jackson, justwhoo child, just GP, all you
need way.
Okay, we're going to stomp.
Do something in the name of theLord, because these are just
(40:24):
some end times.
Okay, end times.
Soph (40:27):
Well, the Lord said he'll come when people start imitating
him.
So he'll do his ass.
Nele (40:33):
Jesus is about to double his ass up here, okay.
Soph (40:37):
He don't care about slavery, he don't care about the
Holocaust.
But if someone pretends to beGod, that is when he's coming.
Nele (40:43):
What you better say it Better say it Well.
Well, don't make me my MartinLuther King Church fan, all
right.
Got a tambourine in my closet,all right.
So that made me really sad, butit was definitely very
interesting, yeah it was veryinteresting.
Soph (41:04):
Mm-hmm, put that in your will, as you're writing your
will.
Yeah, put it in your socialmedias.
Nele (41:09):
You want to just delete it .
Soph (41:12):
Say I want to be deleted.
Nele (41:13):
That's all I have in the will.
What am I going to leave?
Somebody Plants and somecrystals.
That's all I got Some plantsand some crystals.
Soph (41:26):
I don't want another crystals, that's all.
I got some plants and somecrystals.
I don't want another lifethat's a replica of this one.
You know, absolutely not.
Things are just getting worse.
All right, definitely I gottago back in case aliens come.
Nele (41:31):
So all right y'all.
So now on to shady astrology,where I get in that Zodiac's ass
.
Okay, now I don't really knowmuch about the Pisces.
It's Pisces season, but youknow, chat GPT helped me out.
Soph (41:49):
So got y'all Any Pisces.
That is on your list.
Nele (41:56):
No, because you know, if I don't like your Zodiac, if I
have a story for you, you know Ihave a story for you, but you
know, no Pisces story.
I might have dated one Pisces.
He was black and he wasstudying to be a cop and I was
like conflict of interest, butyou know All right.
(42:20):
So y'all, we are in Piscesseason.
The dates are February 19th toMarch 20th.
It's a water sign and thesymbol is a fish.
Notable celebrities Rihanna,justin Bieber, lupita Nyong'o,
simone Biles, albert Einstein,erykah Badu and Bad Bunny.
(42:43):
Now Some people on this list isgoing to make sense, especially
Erykah Badu.
Okay, she's weird as hell.
You can't look into her eyes.
You end up just having a koofyon your head.
Erykah Badu's ass.
You know you go to see aconcert.
Her ass is gonna be late, okay,just know she's gonna be late,
(43:04):
okay.
Or then when she gets on thestage and she's late and she's
singing overtime, they cuttingoff the lights in madison square
garden, like get your ass likeoff.
And she's like, yeah, yeah, getyour ass off the stage.
Erica, you came late, are youserious?
That happened.
Yes, she was opening up ashley.
I went with delores.
She took me to serious.
That happened.
Yes, she was opening up.
Ashley went with dolores.
She took me to see maxwell andshe was opening up for maxwell.
(43:25):
So she was already running lateand so she was up there singing
.
She sounded good, but then likethey were like they turned on
the lights.
Like girl, get your ass off thestage that is so disrespectful
like yeah, no she stays late.
And another time I saw her inthe park and her ass was running
late too.
She was good.
(43:46):
Though she was good, there'ssome Piscean shenanigans, all
right.
So the good qualities they'reempathetic, they're creative,
compassionate, imaginative,intuitive and adaptive.
Not so good qualities Overlyemotional, lazy, indecisive,
(44:07):
they have mood swings.
They're secretive and escapistAll right.
So now I'm going to get in thatass, all right.
Oh, pisces, you're sweet, dreamy, emotionally deep little fish
of the zodiac until you crossthem and suddenly you're dealing
with a gaslighting,disappearing act worthy of an
(44:28):
Oscar.
Right, let's talk about theirshady side, all right, because
it's there.
First of all, pisces are thetype to cry over a stranger's
breakup but completely ignorethe fact that they still owe you
$20 from last month.
Okay, they are professionalescape artists, ghosting texts,
(44:48):
slipping out of responsibilitiesand vanishing into their little
fantasy worlds like Houdini ona deadline.
You ask them a simple questionand suddenly they're talking
about feeling, energies andprocess.
Girl, I just asked if youwanted pizza or tacos.
Okay, they are emotionallymanipulated without even
realizing it.
One minute they're sobbing intotheir poetry journal about
heartbreak, and the next they'remaking you feel guilty for not
(45:10):
understanding their very uniquepain.
Meanwhile they're probablystill texting their ex just to
check in, while swearing they'retotally over it.
And let's not forget how theyare low-key psychic.
But they use their powers fornonsense.
They can sense when you'reupset, but will pretend they
have no idea, probably becauseit's their fault.
And then when you call them out, I just feel like you're being
(45:33):
really aggressive with yourenergy right now.
No bitch, I'm being direct,okay.
And their biggest crime theynever take accountability, ever.
They could spill your deepestsecrets, wreck your car, adopt
your dog without asking andtheir excuse will be I was just
going through a lot, babe.
We're all going through a lotand we're not out here acting
(45:54):
like chaotic mermaids withselective amnesia.
Okay, in conclusion, pisces arecool, but you're shady,
slippery little dream fish.
Need to stop avoiding reality.
Answer your text and pay backthat twenty dollars for pisces.
Do I know any?
I don't think I know any maybethat's why, like, I can't take
(46:16):
people like this, okay, like Ican't you know I'm Okay, like I
can't.
You know I'm a light, but we gotto live in reality, right,
that's my Capricornius nature.
You can't be like, oh yeah, I'ma loving light, whatever
energies or whatever, but youout here, like being a whole
(46:37):
demon, get out my face, I rebukePisces, I rebuke Pisces, I
rebuke Pisces.
I hope Pisces don't ever comenear me.
Okay, you know what a sign.
What a sign.
Well, I don't like Scorpio menAbsolutely not, and the hype
about them being good loversnegative.
(46:58):
I hope you click that for theScorpio that watches my WhatsApp
.
Soph (47:05):
Oh, my God.
Nele (47:07):
Negative, am I right?
They do not live up to the hypeand I like cancer men.
But cancer women I can't stand.
So you know watery people,scorpio women I like.
I like Scorpio women, I don'tknow enough people.
Scorpio woman I like, I likeScorpio woman.
Soph (47:23):
I don't know enough people to.
I know Leo's, you and Shellywait, what's Shelly's sign?
She's an Aries she's April,she's Bell's April 7th.
I don't know my own daughters,I don't even know her sign April
7th she might be in Aries.
Nele (47:45):
Yeah, and I'm a Capricorn and the rest of y'all are Leos.
Soph (47:48):
Yeah.
Nele (47:50):
Lions yes, that's fine.
Yes, well, that's it for shadyastrology y'all.
Soph (47:59):
Janelle, since we're talking about you know astrology
, I did want to share somethingwith y'all, okay, so um last
like, in an episode in june wecut.
Do you remember we coveredasteroid 99942 apocalypse yes, I
remember that it was discoveredon june 19 2004.
(48:23):
The size of three and a halffootball fields and classified
as a near earth object, or itsorbit brings it close to earth's
orbit.
So when it was first discovered, there was concern that it
could impact earth in 2029.
However, further observationruled out any significant risk
of impact um in that year.
Also, it's named um.
(48:45):
Apophos is the ancient egyptiangod of chaos, darkness and
destruction.
Uh, so basically the ultimatecosmic villain, um.
And the conspiracy theories tome is like why would you name an
asteroid that is classified asa near-Earth object that
particular name?
You know what are y'all nottelling us?
But anywho, that's Apophis.
So last December this pastDecember 2024, they discovered
(49:09):
scientists discovered asteroid2024 YR, a standard catalog name
.
Thankfully it's smaller thanApophis, but exact dimensions
they're still being studied.
It's also a near-Earth objectbut, unlike apocryphal, there's
a chance for impact.
When they discovered it inDecember, it was estimated to
(49:30):
have a 1% chance of impactingEarth on December 22nd 2032.
By February 18th this year, theprobability went up to 3.1, so
making it one of the highestreported risks for an asteroid
of its size, which could cause acity-level catastrophe if it
hit Earth.
(49:50):
But two days later they refinedit to, they reduced that number
and said the impact probabilityis 0.28%.
You know what I say.
Nele (50:01):
Bullshit Me too, girl.
First of all, alright, we needto find rich people with a
bunker, you know, just in case,we talked about the bunkers in
the episode, right?
So we need to find that.
Or maybe we do need to have ourdigital likeness, you know,
since the asteroids coming forus soon.
(50:22):
No, I'm not living in this.
Soph (50:23):
No, I think what they're doing because there's like a lot
of money into like space andhow do we build stuff on space
without having to like.
There's what I'm thinkingthey're doing with, you know,
because what is it?
Um, what's the amazon guy?
Um, bezos.
Bezos has the blue horizon musk, has, like you know stuff.
(50:46):
So there's probably some supersecretive like um spacecraft we
don't know about that's going tosave them.
It's like that movie don't lookup.
So, and this and bezos knowssomething is this man is
building his clock.
Nele (51:02):
He knows Whatever, all right.
Well, that's it for today'sepisode.
If you like the vibe, pleasemake sure to like, comment and
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Deuces.
Hey y'all Welcome to.
Is this how it Ends?
Podcast?
I'm Nell, I'm so and we're herefor this episode.
Let's get into it.
All right, so on to normal-ish,or maybe we should just call it
what in the doge, because it'stoo much to like.
(00:20):
Keep up with, I'm at a loss,but there were some shenanigans
that actually happened today.
On Monday, february 24th today,some hackers infiltrated the
Department of Housing and UrbanDevelopment headquarters in
Washington DC, broadcasting anAI-generated video of President
(00:43):
Donald Trump kissing Elon Musk'sfeet on cafeteria screens.
The video displayed themessaging Long Live the Real
King, highlighting concerns overMusk's influence in the
administration, particularlythrough his role overseeing the
Department of GovernmentEfficiency.
Hud spokeswoman Casey Lovettcondemned the incident as a
(01:04):
waste of taxpayer dollars andresources and stated that the
appropriate action would betaken against those responsible.
I mean, have you seen thisphoto, this video?
No, I haven't seen it.
Soph (01:17):
I guess I'm gonna have to check it out.
Nele (01:20):
Girl.
I was like, first of all, Idon't understand this, because
Musk doesn't actually.
Does he work for Doge?
He doesn't.
Soph (01:31):
Well, now they're saying he's an advisor to the president
.
How much money did this mangive?
How much money did he what youdid?
Just like the video where hisson.
He's in the Oval Office.
I guess Trump is sitting down,musk is speaking, trump is
nothing, or he has his son withhim.
I think the son turns to Trumpand is like what did he think?
(01:54):
I'm like you're not thepresident, you need to leave.
Yeah, this little boy, I knowYou're not the president, you
need to leave.
Nele (02:04):
I'm like what he heard this from his dad but it's
almost like you know, remember,you had to take your daughter to
work days, like take your kidsto work day, and I feel like
musk is the kid, but he'sactually running things and so
they're like okay, musk, youknow how you let the kid press
the button in the elevator.
You know it's like all right,musk is.
Like.
(02:24):
You all have to list fivethings that you've done and
email it to me, and it's justlike and then the White House,
the White House has intervenedand be like um, no, we did not
say that Ignore what Musk istelling you Every time.
Then it was another with thefederal workers, like if you
don't email him by like the endof the week or by the end of the
(02:47):
day, or something like that interms of like what you do, like
then you're fired.
It's just, it doesn't make anysense.
He keeps on putting out thesedirectives.
And then the white house has tobe like no, this isn't real.
Why do you keep on letting himdo this?
Soph (03:02):
He wants power really bad.
I think that's what happenswhen money is in politics.
Like you owe people, he owesyou.
Yeah, it's the only thing I canthink of, because I just felt
like when he was running, like I, there was like a.
I didn't get the sense that heparticularly liked.
Must you know?
(03:25):
Like it's really weird.
I follow it in bits and pieces.
I really just like I just can'tright.
It's so weird.
It's like the way it used to be.
You know, congress makes thelaws.
You know the president couldeither veto it or approve it,
but he's just executive order.
Executive order.
There's the laws.
The president could either vetoit or approve it, but he's just
(03:46):
executive order.
Nele (03:49):
There's no laws, there's no rules, it doesn't matter.
And I think Trump is probablyas a retaliation, he's probably
just going to cancel HUDaltogether, or maybe he'll put
Kim Kardashian as head of HUD,since he's just putting random
ass people.
Soph (04:07):
They were going to ask him for money they wanted money
from FEMA or something and hewas like no, he said some really
nasty things about Kim's wifeand, of course, still voted for
him and all of that really nastythings about Kemp's wife, and
you know Kemp is like, of course, you know, still voted for him
(04:28):
and all of that.
So I this is just a game to himand people are enabling this
and it's messing up a lot ofpeople's lives.
Nele (04:37):
These are people's lives.
Wasn't 9,000 federal workerswere fired from, like the IRS?
Soph (04:43):
Yeah.
Nele (04:46):
These people's lives.
Soph (04:47):
This is crazy.
Unemployment is already out ofcontrol.
It's an awful job market.
Now you have all of thesepeople.
It's out.
It's so cruel for me it'sreally cruel.
It's very cruel.
They're calling back people too, the DOE.
They let go of people,department of Energy, and they
(05:09):
call them back.
Nele (05:15):
There's like another department.
They did the same, and then Ijust see you guys don't know
what you're doing, you don't,and you're just live, yeah.
So that's it on the politicalfront Now in celeb news.
I really haven't been caringabout what's it on the political
front, um.
Now in celeb news.
Soph (05:26):
I really haven't been caring about what's going on um
if you gotta care, because Idon't care, like it's gonna be
okay.
Nele (05:34):
Okay, I care a little more than you do.
Um, I don't know if I want totalk about asap rocky being
acquitted.
Um, or that's Rihanna's man,just in case.
So that was Rihanna's man.
Yeah, it was like aren't therelike 20 ASAPs yeah, there's like
ASAP Ferg and like are they allASAP mob?
(05:55):
I think it's what's called girl.
We old, I don't know thesethings.
I just understand why rihanna'sstill with the man that wears
cornrows, but you know, to eachhis own.
Okay, these are some pisces,shenanigans.
Okay, I don't which I'm gonnaget in that ass later.
Okay, I was maybe gonna talkabout blake lively shenanigans,
(06:17):
you know, because no one'sreally liking her at this point,
but I decided to talk aboutDiddy because it's been a while
since.
Soph (06:25):
We talked about him last time.
You know, we talked about him.
Nele (06:31):
Oh yeah, we did a little bit, but there's an update.
So, first of all, diddy Zass isstill in jail.
His trial isn't until May, soit's almost happening.
He might as well just relaxLike you're not going anywhere.
So, apparently, on February21st, anthony Rico, one of
(06:53):
Diddy's defense attorneys, fileda motion to withdraw from
representing Combs in hisfederal case involving charges
of sex trafficking andracketeering.
Rico cited sufficient reasonsfor his decision but did not
disclose specifics, referencingattorney-client privilege.
He assured the court that hiswithdrawal would not impact the
trial scheduled on May 5th.
(07:13):
Combe remains incarcerated atthe Metropolitan Detention
Center in Brooklyn since hisarrest in September 2024.
Despite Rico's departure, combecontinues to be represented by
his remaining legal team.
Like something, something'sgoing on where he's just like
beach bad.
He's like no, they're justdropping off life flies.
(07:34):
I wonder is this the lawyerthat was?
Remember one of our episodes inthe beginning where he was
talking about like the baby oiland like defending, like why did
he have so much baby oil?
Cause that's what they sold atCostco.
And Costco was like girl, wedon't sell that Costco's.
(07:55):
Like we don't know her,absolutely not.
Soph (07:57):
I don't know.
I haven't been following, sothat's.
Nele (08:00):
Yeah, so it's.
It's just a whole.
There was a time I was reallyfollowing it and now it's just
like he's just gonna be in there.
He's tried everything.
Hunger strikes um.
At one point I did hear he waslike running things in there.
I don't know some kind of ringthat was going on with the other
prisoners, like making him likehis bitch and making his bed
(08:21):
and shit like that.
There's just a lot bullyingthem for phone time or whatever.
Yeah, I read somewhere I don'tknow if it's true, it's on
Lipstick Alley he's trying toreach out to Trump to get a
pardon.
Soph (08:37):
I was thinking about that that's allegedly all.
Nele (08:42):
I don't know.
I believe it, but I believe it,I believe it.
Soph (08:48):
Yeah, yeah, he's got to have enough money, because Trump
can't be bought yeah hedefinitely can be, but that's it
what I have for normal-ish.
Nele (09:00):
It's pretty short, y'all, because I wasn't paying these
celebrities, no mind, okay, eventhough ASAP Rocky, I really
think he did it like it was likefor shooting his friend, or
something like that.
Yeah, this is four years now.
Hmm, was it fatal?
I don't think so.
I think the friend is stillalive, but you know, rihanna's
(09:24):
showing up in her court fashions, she wasn't given.
Rihanna was looking tired.
I'm sure she was tired ofshelling out money for his, for
his legal team, or whatever youknow.
At the end, though, she huggedhim, she hugged the defense
lawyer and he hugged the defenselawyer.
I heard somewhere that theysaid they're going to name their
next baby after the defenselawyer.
(09:45):
Yeah, I just, I just don'tunderstand.
I just Covering your baby daddylegal fees.
But all right, money can't buytaste.
That's all I got to say.
All right, that's it for normalish y'all.
Soph (10:06):
So today's main topic we're going to.
We're going to be getting alittle.
We're going to getuncomfortably existential.
Oh OK, I'm ready.
I'm ready, we're going to talkabout death, but we're going to
make it digital.
As I mentioned, it's a little.
This is it's morbid, nowid now.
So what do you think happens toyour social media, or anyone's
(10:27):
social media, after they passaway?
Nele (10:29):
I don't know.
I've always wondered that.
Soph (10:33):
Yeah, I mean, I've never really thought about it, right,
does it?
Does your old ghost haunt thealgorithm?
Do your old text tweets andthirst traps live on forever?
Maybe some poor relative theygot to go in there, they got to
shut it down, or I remember likeon linkedin, like if someone
passes, like somebody will quote, will you know, post a message?
(10:54):
Right, obviously you can getaccess to so I think facebook
and all that you can get accessto a deceased person's um
profiles if you can prove thatyou know what that relationship
is.
So, you know, I do recall seeingthese and I'm like, oh my God,
that's so sad.
Well, even if you're notthinking about it, companies are
(11:14):
you know?
It turns out that there aresome companies working to make
sure you don't just disappearinto the void and they want to
keep you talking, maybe forever.
Nele (11:23):
No, absolutely not.
So I'm tired of this.
Okay, first it was with theuncle and the auntie, with the
ai people, so now they're goingto use ai to be you when you're
not even here.
Girl, it's absolutely notstrapping, okay, so, no, no, no,
it's going to be more of thenotes, okay, okay, all right.
Soph (11:48):
So it's a rapidly growing field.
It's, you know, the world ofdigital afterlife services,
memory preservations and,because we love a good dystopian
twist, mind uploading.
So, from chat bots trained onthe dead to the possibility of
rich people becoming AI gods,we're going to talk about it
(12:08):
Like, if we can live foreveronline, would we want to and
should we, would you want toroam online forever?
Nele (12:16):
Well, here's the thing.
So I mean, I wouldn't want todeny the future of my wit, you
know.
So maybe Maybe Just saying Imean, maybe we could continue
podcasting forever.
Who?
Soph (12:30):
knows Possibly, yeah, it happens.
So let's start off with a story.
It's really short, so imagineyou're at a funeral, everyone's
mourning, you're sharingmemories, you're taking pictures
, which I think is really weirdwhen people take pictures at
funerals.
(12:51):
But I've done it too, so it'sworth it.
Nele (12:53):
It's worth it to take pictures of the casket.
I've seen people do that.
Oh, that's weird.
Soph (12:56):
Yeah, I've seen people do that, but I don't even go near
the casket, like I want to seethat because that would give me
nightmares forever.
You even go near the casket,like I don't want to see that
because that would give menightmares forever.
You know, um, but you know justthe usual stuff that you do at
a funeral, but mostly morning.
You know this person is in thecasket and it's, it's really sad
, and then suddenly the dearlydeparted starts talking and not
(13:17):
in a like I'm haunting you way,but like on a screen responding
to questions in real time, andthis isn't some horror movie
plot I mean, we've seen them alot but this actually happened.
And this and a lot of what I'llbe discussing is courtesy of an
article from the Conversationtitled Logging Off Life but
(13:42):
Living On how AI is RedefiningDeath, memory and Immortality.
So this person who spoke at herfuneral spoke was named Marina
Smith and she used a systemcalled Storyfile, and Storyfile
(14:03):
is a company that pre-recordedher answers and then used AI to
create a natural back and forthconversation.
So it felt like she was in theroom and I think I read her son
is one of the creators or istied to Storyfile, so it made
sense that he would pick hismother to do this, and I kind of
(14:26):
get it right.
In the one hand, we all want tohold on to people that we love,
hear their voices one last time, tell them that one thing we
never got a chance to.
We want closure.
But let's be real, this is someBlack Mirror like freaky scary
loopy Looky here.
Nele (14:42):
I'm not a christian, okay, but I rebuke this.
Okay, I got five bibles on mybookshelf.
I rebuke this.
Why do you have five bibles?
I went to all right, I went tochristian school.
I've studied bibles and youcan't just throw away a bible.
You can't just give away abible like you just keep, that's
(15:02):
true, yeah, yeah, yes.
I have several bibles back here,okay, and these are the end of
days.
So this is the end of days.
Jesus does not want this, goddoes not want this.
Just let us die, just letpeople die, because here's the
thing.
There's some people that surewe love and we want to hold on,
(15:27):
but I want some people to begone when Trump dies, I want
Trump to be gone.
Soph (15:34):
Don't come back.
Yeah, you know what I thoughtabout.
There's always some kind ofdrama at funerals Not always,
but sometimes there's drama.
The few that I've been to,there's always some kind of
drama at funerals.
Not always, but sometimesthere's drama.
The few that I've been tothere's like drama.
Imagine if they're like.
You know, if they're like.
Well, uncle Bobby said you owehim some money.
Technically, we have a UncleBobby here to confirm, okay.
Nele (15:57):
Oh girl, thank you, that's a.
I can see.
If that was me, I'd be spillingeverybody's tea, okay, because
you know people tell meeverything, okay.
So I definitely would have beenlike girl.
Soph (16:08):
Oh my God.
And they're scurrying your textmessages.
Like you know, your likeeverything, so they could have,
they, might, they might have allthe tea of people like texting
you stuff.
So everything I texted you,janelle, you texted me.
Nele (16:24):
I don't know, I could be messy from the afterlife, but in
the present, okay, all right,maybe I'm being sold on this.
Maybe I'm being sold on this alittle bit.
Soph (16:36):
Well, let's, let's keep going, and this is so.
This is like this is just astart, right?
So at her funeral, it was justbased on pre-recorded responses,
but you know, as I mentioned,they can start feeding from all
of your social medias, from allyour emails, your text messages,
voice recordings, into aprogram that creates a real time
(17:01):
AI version of you that adaptsand evolves Because spoiler
alert, that's already happening.
Okay, that is already happening.
So let's talk about Facebookreal quick.
I know you don't have Facebook,right, I don't, it is.
It is a really weird place, likeyou just never know what you're
(17:21):
going to see on there, likeit's like conspiracy theory from
that one weird kid in highschool which it's me, y'all I'm
that I'm not close on Facebook,you know or an announcement from
a friend saying they're havinga baby.
You're like what baby.
Nele (17:37):
When I was on Facebook I did get called a racist one time
by some girl in high school.
Shout out to Leanne.
Soph (17:47):
Why Leanne, why Leanne?
Nele (17:52):
I don't remember what I said, but she was like, oh,
you're so racist.
And I was like, all right girl.
Soph (18:03):
I think the really weird things like sometimes I'll see
friends stuff.
Sometimes I don't Like mymother-in-law.
All she does is post like BettyBoo pictures and they're all
always cute.
But that's what she does onFacebook and all of the socials.
If they want to scrape herstuff, that's all they'll get.
At one point Facebook came outwhen we were in college.
(18:27):
All our pictures were on there.
Remember we were like we'llnever wear the same outfit twice
because we don't want someoneto post it to Facebook.
Now we just don't care.
But yeah, so it was.
It was the website.
For a very long time it was thesocial media, especially for us
millennials and definitely forolder folks, because that's how
(18:49):
they get got on Facebook all thedamn time.
Yup, I still have albums onthere in random posts Anytime I
go back to my old.
Why did I even write this?
Nele (19:00):
Girl.
I definitely my name on therewas Hot Sauce.
Hot Sauce Janelle, hot SauceGreen.
I don't know how it spread, buteven my mama was calling me Hot
Sauce.
I was Hot Sauce in thesestreets.
This is a little racist.
Maybe that's why Leigh-Annecalled me hot sauce.
I was hot sauce in thesestreets and you know how we can.
This is a little racist.
But maybe that's why Leannecalled me a racist.
Remember Flavor of Love?
It had the nicknames.
(19:22):
And so Cynthia, because she wasAsian, she called herself
Noodles, and then I forgot whatthe other one, what the other
girl, called herself, andbecause I was Black, I called
myself Hot Sauce.
And next thing, you know it'shot sauce in these streets.
I'm sure I still have my albumsup there.
(19:42):
I just never like.
When they started asking forlike identification and stuff
like that, I was like nope, no,thank you.
You never asked me for it.
Soph (19:49):
But I'm still on there, um and, but Facebook is like it's,
an unintentional digitalgraveyard.
So there are over 30 millionfacebook accounts belonging to
people who have passed on.
Oh, wow, yeah, and by the endof the century, experts say the
(20:15):
dead might out AI profiles likeGrandpa Brian, but 30 million
currently that they know ofright, that belong to people who
have passed.
And I think Twitter had thesame issue and they were saying
that they were going to deleteaccounts of people who haven't
logged on in a long time.
(20:36):
A lot of families were like no,you know, because they belong
to people who are close to themwho've passed away, and they
wanted to keep that.
You know, they wanted to keepthat memory alive To me.
I find that like I don't wantto come across like, if I'm
strolling through social, like Icome across you know someone
that I love who's passed.
Like that's just going to be.
It's not going to be good formy healing process.
(20:59):
Yeah, that's crazy so all thoseaccounts you know someone.
Unless someone shuts it down,it could just linger, you know,
and again it does turn intomemorial pages, while others get
locked out, leaving them toexist like abandoned digital
(21:19):
tombstones.
And here's where it gets alittle weird.
There are companies out there,companies like it's called Good
Trust and Hereafter AI, offeringservices where they'll gather
all your digital footprints,your text, your emails, your
voice recordings, and turn theminto a chat bot that can speak
(21:42):
as you, so as you're living.
You could give them access tothis and they'll create this for
you absolutely not.
No, no, yeah, no so you know,instead of liking a picture of
you know your deceased grandmaon her birthday every year.
You could chat with her AIversion.
(22:02):
You could ask questions, getlife advice, you can hear her
tell you why you're not marriedyet, when are you going to have
kids, family, and blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
Why are you not talking to yourfather?
All of that, so, if that's whatyou want.
(22:25):
So there's a story about thisguy, joshua Burbo, who, eight
years after his fiancee passed,he used an AI platform called
Project December to create achatbot simulating conversations
with her.
He inputted her past textmessages, information about her
personality, and through this,he was able to, like, engage in
lifelike dialogues with the AIrepresentation of her, and he
(22:47):
said it aided him in processinghis prolonged grief.
And I'll add the article in theshow notes.
It's really fascinating and sadand a hopeful read.
You know like, as you're, youcould see some of the text
messages back and forth with herand it felt like at some, a lot
of it felt like he was actuallytalking to her.
You know like it just felt likea fluid conversation and he
(23:09):
said there were things that thechatbot said that it made it
feel like he was talking to her,but then there was also
something she would say he'slike that's not quite her, but
for the most part it just feltreally real.
So you know, would you wantthinking about that?
Would you want to have an ex oreven a family member reanimate
(23:32):
you digitally?
No, especially like an ex, whoeven a family member, reanimate
you digitally.
Nele (23:39):
No, imagine especially like an ex, especially like an
ex who hated you, and you sayall kind of shit to me
absolutely not, bish, absolutelynot.
You're blocked in life anddeath.
You will not have theopportunity.
But you know this reminds me ofso don't ask me why.
I know this.
Don't judge me, okay, I will not, not too much, maybe a little
(24:00):
there is this woman on youtubethat I'm fascinated with and
she's supposed to be this, uh,youtube guru or whatever, and
she faked her death.
But this woman was such anarcissist that she couldn't
stay away.
(24:20):
She faked her death right.
And you know, when you seesometimes because it does happen
, you're on youtube, because I'mon youtube a lot and then you
see like, oh, like someone died.
You know, like, oh, that's sad.
You never think that whensomeone dies that they're
actually faking it.
But I was like this woman'sfaking it.
I didn't feel sad, I was likethis woman's crazy, I know she's
faking it.
(24:40):
She even had a post on Facebookwith the angel wings in the back
and it was an announcement thatshe passed away.
She said she I don't have to becareful with the words but she
took her own, her own life orwhatever, and there was this
whole announcement and that hermoderator for the, for her
(25:03):
moderator for her channel, hadthe access to her account to
like, post all this stuff.
So people are confused.
So like, is she alive?
Is she dead?
Like what's going on?
Initially people thought thatshe did.
She did die, but she couldn'tstay away.
She could not stay away.
So then a live pops up.
(25:23):
You know how you do, like the,the lies, the countdowns for the
lives or whatever like, and soI'm like if you're dead, why is
there a a live countdown goingon?
So then we're all confused.
And then there was another postfrom her, from her moderator,
(25:44):
asking to donate because shecould.
You, it's illegal to.
If you fake your death and youask for donations, like for the
family, like if you collectthose funds, it's illegal.
So she was asking for the fundsto be sent to her son for her
son's birthday, and the son waslike maybe two years old or
whatever, and so she also put upa song.
(26:10):
This is after she's died.
She puts up a song you knowthose emojis from um, like on
your iphones, where it's likeyour cartoon and you sing her.
So she did a song and she'ssinging and the video gets put
up, but you're supposed to bedead.
She did it all for donationsbecause she stays begging.
Soph (26:38):
Maybe she did and then someone brought her back to life
digitally.
Nele (26:43):
She tried to bring herself back to life, okay, digitally.
It was just the weirdest thingI had ever heard of and she's
still alive to this day and lifeis really hard for her.
But ever since her faking herdeath, but still like engaging
with people online and like shewas, like you could see her on
(27:05):
Facebook, like liking posts,girl maybe someone took control
of her account absolutely not,absolutely not.
She's batshit, but I'm batshitbecause I still follow her to
this day, you know.
Soph (27:24):
So that's still a interesting question, though.
Like, well, she clearly fakedit, but someone who did and
they're doing that stuff withtheir likeness, like yeah, like
who controls your digitalversion of all that stuff?
Like who gets to control that?
And that's why they're tellingpeople in some states have laws
(27:45):
that you can put that in yourwill.
Right, like what if you were topass away?
Like you want it all to bedeleted or whatever it is you
want to do with it?
Like states have, you can putthat in your will that makes
sense.
Nele (28:01):
I think it also should be a part of you know the terms
when you sign up for you knowthese platforms.
There should be some kind ofthing to check off like I don't
want you.
I mean they're not going to dothat.
I mean, no one's readingdisclosure, reads it, but maybe
we need to.
I never I'm like what, exceptall cookies.
Yes, I don't know what a cookieis.
Soph (28:23):
I should never read the terms agreement like yeah, yeah,
they're fine, I know because wedon't know what we're signing
we don't, yeah, and that mightget worse if there is, like this
digital afterlife and we're notreading anything.
Who knows what they're going tobe asking of us because we're
not real.
So, but so, that's just so.
That's the digital stuff,that's just that's.
(28:44):
You know, your social scrapingand all of that to create like a
chat bot or to create like anavatar of you online.
But we can take this a stepfurther.
You've heard of, you've heardof Neuralink, right, elon Musk's
brain chip project.
Yes, yeah.
So I mean, the main goal is fornow is medical.
(29:05):
It's helping people, like withparalysis, regain function.
It's very noble.
But Musk has teased the idea ofstoring human consciousness
digitally, as in backing up yourbrain like an iPhone, and
that's some mad scientist shitand very in line with the super
villain personality.
Ok, that man is a villain.
Nele (29:24):
That is awful, soph, because who wants to back up
evil dictators' brains?
How much money this will makeif they could do this, that's.
That's crazy.
Like you want these people tojust die so the next generation
doesn't have to deal with thesepeople, so certain things can
continue to live on.
(29:45):
Absolutely not, absolutely not.
Nope, I don't like it.
I don't like it, but that'sNeuralink.
Soph (29:50):
There's another company.
It's called Nectone.
So this company, a company thatwants to use high tech
embalming techniques to preservethe human brain so that one day
, when technology catches up,they can scan and upload your
(30:11):
entire consciousness.
The catch you have to be alivewhile they do it and the process
is not survivable.
So, yes, you die, notsurvivable.
So, yes, you die, but in theory, your digital self could live
on after you die through thisprocess.
But because of ethical and justa whole host of other issues,
like you dying, this process isnot available to the public.
Also, if this was possible andthey uploaded your brain, are
you just living in the mainframe?
(30:33):
Could you imagine that You'rejust in this?
you're just in the computer youknow like will they find a robot
body for you or a non-sentienthuman clone?
Do an episode on an episode onresearch that looks at replacing
the aging parts of the brainwith new parts as a way of
(30:54):
expanding life, and the newbrain would need a new body so
they would grow, thesenon-sentient human clones.
Since you know the body ages, Iwill also link that episode in
the show notes.
We're kind of morbid, or I'mkind of morbid for the stories
that I think.
Nele (31:10):
I mean, it's all, everything is just sad,
everything is sad.
Soph (31:16):
Yeah, and there's also, there's also.
There's another company andthere's a lot of these companies
, but there's another one and,by the way, nectone.
They had people who said theywere interested.
It was, I think I won't evensay the name because I'm not too
sure but there were like highprofile people who were
interested in this, in thisprocess, to do this, so but it's
(31:38):
there's no way they can,there's no way.
Way because it's it's almostlike a cystic suicide, so, which
is illegal.
There are a ton of othercompanies, but the last one I'll
mention is eternime.
It's a startup that wants toturn people into ai avatars, so
it's complete with your thoughts, your memories, your
personality, so you could existafter death.
(31:58):
Um, it's in um beta testing,with over 40 000 individuals
signed up to contribute theirdata and participate in refining
the technology so technically,if it's your thoughts, your
memories, your personality,that's.
That's a simulation.
Like you're, you're livingonline, like it's.
So they say, humans.
You know, eventually, if youevolve enough or have the
(32:19):
technology, you will createsimulations, right so, which has
me thinking?
Simulation theory is somethingthat's being debated right now,
like are we in a simulation?
That's that some other?
You know civilization, you knowcreate us, you know create this
stimulation because they wantedto continue?
I don't know, but it is a hotmess.
I don't, it is a simulation.
(32:41):
I hate y'all so much.
This is awful.
Nele (32:44):
Two thoughts.
One, I hated the holograms, theholograms of people that passed
away singers.
I don't want to see a Whitneyhologram.
Okay, I just look on YouTube,see her videos.
That's enough for me, I don'tneed that.
We have her music.
But her videos, that's enoughfor me, I don't need that.
(33:06):
You have her music.
Um, but also, just thinkingabout now in terms of people and
who they are and theirpersonalities, I feel like a lot
, of, a lot of us aren'tindividuals anymore and a lot of
it is shaped on who we want tobe on social.
It is shaped on who we want tobe on social media, like who we
would present, like, and so now,if you want to be someone that
(33:27):
lives on forever based off ofyour thoughts and who you are
and who you present on socialmedia, you'll never be your
authentic self, because you'recreating the self that you want
to live on forever, and sothere's already so many things
that are just taking away ourauthenticity and I feel like
this is like we can't even.
We can't even just die and havepeople just live with the
(33:49):
memories like that we've createdwith, like actual, real human
beings.
Now it's just based off of youknow what we put out there into
like the internet.
It's really gross, it's reallycreepy.
Soph (34:02):
It is creepy.
Who can afford this right?
Like when we talk about stufflike this.
This takes a lot of competingpower, like who can afford this?
So now you have rich peoplebecoming almost godlike.
You know you'll have Tom Cruisemaking like 3,000 more Mission
Impossibles.
Like no one is asking for this.
Nele (34:25):
Fast and Furious 105.
Soph (34:29):
The billionaires like Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg creating
digital versions of themselves.
They'll be first online.
I'm sure they know what's goingon.
We need to kickstart this Now.
They don't just own the worldin life, but in perpetuity.
The final flex, and I'm nothere for that shit.
Nele (34:46):
But also like, let's say, this can be affordable, right.
Let's say, whatever, right, wealready have.
This is where my mind goes.
We already have dropping birthrates, right.
And then people talk aboutlegacy, legacy, legacy.
Right Now, your legacy doesn'teven have to be through children
anymore.
It can be hey, I can live onforever as myself.
(35:09):
Yeah, you know.
So it'll be a different kind oflegacy.
Soph (35:15):
Yeah, you could continue to shape things and do things
and have, you know, still havethe same power.
I'm sure they'll find a way.
Yep, yeah, I don't know, evenif you can't afford it, but you
know there's going to be asubscription fee, right, it's
going to be like a month beforeyou get deleted, so what's it
going to be?
Now you're like you living inthis mainframe, and they're like
(35:37):
well, you didn't pay your.
Nele (35:42):
You didn't pay your fees so we just won't have to go dark
.
Or maybe like as a punishmentor something like that.
They'll like mix different, Idon't know what you call them
personalities.
So maybe because my card gotdeclined, now I'll live on
forever as like a sexy red kindof clone or something like that.
Or you know, I'll be combined alittle bit of Cardi B dashed in
there as like a punishment.
Soph (36:05):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want this.
I already said like, and do youhave to work now in this like
virtual world?
If you are, if you're not rich,like, I don't want this,
because how are you going to paythat $19.99 a month to keep
living?
That's true, you might have tobuy more power.
(36:29):
The more things you want to do.
You need more cloud space.
Nele (36:35):
Yeah, because Apple they're taking $9.99 and I'm
just like what for Apple?
Just feeds these random assfeeds for the cloud.
I'm like what?
What's going on?
Apple?
Soph (36:46):
Based on how much you pay.
Are you going to be onedimension, two dimension or even
stick figures?
Girl.
Nele (36:51):
I'll have the stick figure plan.
Ok, Some popsicle sticks.
Soph (36:59):
Oh my God.
So I love connecting like thesetech stories with, like you
know, books and movies, causeyou know they've spoken about
this before.
Nele (37:09):
Have you?
Soph (37:10):
do you read Kurt Vonnegut or have you read any of his
books or short stories?
Okay, so I, I like him.
He's really funny.
We had to read him at Skidmoreas part of our freshman class
and I was like this book wasreally good.
So I read a couple more of hisstuff.
So there's a short story hewrote.
It's called Unready to Wear.
(37:31):
It was about people who figuredout how to dish their bodies
completely and live as free,floating minds no eating, no
sleeping, no aging, just pureconsciousnessing in the universe
.
It was ultimate freedom.
But then you had people whoweren't ready for all that.
These folks were like no thanks, I like having a body, I like
(37:52):
eating, I like arguing onTwitter and wearing
uncomfortable shoes for noreason.
And I feel like that's kind ofwhere we would be with this
whole AI afterlife situation,you know, because, if we're
honest, we are the unready towear people.
Sure, we talk about wanting toupload our brains, but do we
really want to spend forevertrapped in a data center, you
(38:13):
know, surrounded by pop-up ads,and stuck in a group chat with
all of our exes because youforgot to turn off notification
before?
Nele (38:18):
you child?
You not gonna.
I blocked your ass in real life.
You not going to haunt me inthe digital afterlife.
You do not exist anymore.
Soph (38:27):
Okay, can you imagine like what this digital, or maybe it
will become like the truesimulation where, like, we're
living this life there, which tome that's just shitty, no so he
wrote this book and although itwasn't, that's just shitty no,
absolutely not.
So he wrote this book and,although it wasn't really
tech-like, but he wrote thisbook, and he wrote it in 1953.
(38:50):
So he saw this coming.
He thought we'd be floatingminds and not Twitter gulps and
AI chatbots.
He's probably saying somethinglike you idiots finally figured
out how to separate minds frombodies and you choose to spend
it making TikToks Unbelievable,and he'd be correct.
Nele (39:06):
Yeah, wow.
Soph (39:13):
That's the main story.
Nele (39:16):
I'm scared.
Soph (39:17):
I'm scared, there's a lot like people are looking into,
like what goes on up here, howcan they tap into it?
And there's so much more.
It's huge science and you knowI feel like we've spoken about
it a lot.
Last time we spoke about, likeyou know, companies needing to
monitor if you're fatigued, ifyou're not engaged fatigue if
(39:42):
you're not engaged.
That's real tech.
That's out there.
You know other things wherethey're replacing whole parts of
the brain, like it's justthere's a lot of money being
thrown at this, so I'd beinterested in seeing what it
looks like, you know, 20 yearsfrom now.
And now there's breakthroughsin quantum computing, so which
might be able to help with someof this stuff?
Nele (40:01):
But yeah, so Flick, I might have to turn my soul over
to the Lord.
Now to Jesus, because these arethe end of days.
I'm going to hold my Bible andsing some never would have made
it just Mahalia Jackson, justwhoo child, just GP, all you
need way.
Okay, we're going to stomp.
Do something in the name of theLord, because these are just
(40:24):
some end times.
Okay, end times.
Soph (40:27):
Well, the Lord said he'll come when people start imitating
him.
So he'll do his ass.
Nele (40:33):
Jesus is about to double his ass up here, okay.
Soph (40:37):
He don't care about slavery, he don't care about the
Holocaust.
But if someone pretends to beGod, that is when he's coming.
Nele (40:43):
What you better say it Better say it Well.
Well, don't make me my MartinLuther King Church fan, all
right.
Got a tambourine in my closet,all right.
So that made me really sad, butit was definitely very
interesting, yeah it was veryinteresting.
Soph (41:04):
Mm-hmm, put that in your will, as you're writing your
will.
Yeah, put it in your socialmedias.
Nele (41:09):
You want to just delete it .
Soph (41:12):
Say I want to be deleted.
Nele (41:13):
That's all I have in the will.
What am I going to leave?
Somebody Plants and somecrystals.
That's all I got Some plantsand some crystals.
Soph (41:26):
I don't want another crystals, that's all.
I got some plants and somecrystals.
I don't want another lifethat's a replica of this one.
You know, absolutely not.
Things are just getting worse.
All right, definitely I gottago back in case aliens come.
Nele (41:31):
So all right y'all.
So now on to shady astrology,where I get in that Zodiac's ass
.
Okay, now I don't really knowmuch about the Pisces.
It's Pisces season, but youknow, chat GPT helped me out.
Soph (41:49):
So got y'all Any Pisces.
That is on your list.
Nele (41:56):
No, because you know, if I don't like your Zodiac, if I
have a story for you, you know Ihave a story for you, but you
know, no Pisces story.
I might have dated one Pisces.
He was black and he wasstudying to be a cop and I was
like conflict of interest, butyou know All right.
(42:20):
So y'all, we are in Piscesseason.
The dates are February 19th toMarch 20th.
It's a water sign and thesymbol is a fish.
Notable celebrities Rihanna,justin Bieber, lupita Nyong'o,
simone Biles, albert Einstein,erykah Badu and Bad Bunny.
(42:43):
Now Some people on this list isgoing to make sense, especially
Erykah Badu.
Okay, she's weird as hell.
You can't look into her eyes.
You end up just having a koofyon your head.
Erykah Badu's ass.
You know you go to see aconcert.
Her ass is gonna be late, okay,just know she's gonna be late,
(43:04):
okay.
Or then when she gets on thestage and she's late and she's
singing overtime, they cuttingoff the lights in madison square
garden, like get your ass likeoff.
And she's like, yeah, yeah, getyour ass off the stage.
Erica, you came late, are youserious?
That happened.
Yes, she was opening up ashley.
I went with delores.
She took me to serious.
That happened.
Yes, she was opening up.
Ashley went with dolores.
She took me to see maxwell andshe was opening up for maxwell.
(43:25):
So she was already running lateand so she was up there singing
.
She sounded good, but then likethey were like they turned on
the lights.
Like girl, get your ass off thestage that is so disrespectful
like yeah, no she stays late.
And another time I saw her inthe park and her ass was running
late too.
She was good.
(43:46):
Though she was good, there'ssome Piscean shenanigans, all
right.
So the good qualities they'reempathetic, they're creative,
compassionate, imaginative,intuitive and adaptive.
Not so good qualities Overlyemotional, lazy, indecisive,
(44:07):
they have mood swings.
They're secretive and escapistAll right.
So now I'm going to get in thatass, all right.
Oh, pisces, you're sweet, dreamy, emotionally deep little fish
of the zodiac until you crossthem and suddenly you're dealing
with a gaslighting,disappearing act worthy of an
(44:28):
Oscar.
Right, let's talk about theirshady side, all right, because
it's there.
First of all, pisces are thetype to cry over a stranger's
breakup but completely ignorethe fact that they still owe you
$20 from last month.
Okay, they are professionalescape artists, ghosting texts,
(44:48):
slipping out of responsibilitiesand vanishing into their little
fantasy worlds like Houdini ona deadline.
You ask them a simple questionand suddenly they're talking
about feeling, energies andprocess.
Girl, I just asked if youwanted pizza or tacos.
Okay, they are emotionallymanipulated without even
realizing it.
One minute they're sobbing intotheir poetry journal about
heartbreak, and the next they'remaking you feel guilty for not
(45:10):
understanding their very uniquepain.
Meanwhile they're probablystill texting their ex just to
check in, while swearing they'retotally over it.
And let's not forget how theyare low-key psychic.
But they use their powers fornonsense.
They can sense when you'reupset, but will pretend they
have no idea, probably becauseit's their fault.
And then when you call them out, I just feel like you're being
(45:33):
really aggressive with yourenergy right now.
No bitch, I'm being direct,okay.
And their biggest crime theynever take accountability, ever.
They could spill your deepestsecrets, wreck your car, adopt
your dog without asking andtheir excuse will be I was just
going through a lot, babe.
We're all going through a lotand we're not out here acting
(45:54):
like chaotic mermaids withselective amnesia.
Okay, in conclusion, pisces arecool, but you're shady,
slippery little dream fish.
Need to stop avoiding reality.
Answer your text and pay backthat twenty dollars for pisces.
Do I know any?
I don't think I know any maybethat's why, like, I can't take
(46:16):
people like this, okay, like Ican't you know I'm Okay, like I
can't.
You know I'm a light, but we gotto live in reality, right,
that's my Capricornius nature.
You can't be like, oh yeah, I'ma loving light, whatever
energies or whatever, but youout here, like being a whole
(46:37):
demon, get out my face, I rebukePisces, I rebuke Pisces, I
rebuke Pisces.
I hope Pisces don't ever comenear me.
Okay, you know what a sign.
What a sign.
Well, I don't like Scorpio menAbsolutely not, and the hype
about them being good loversnegative.
(46:58):
I hope you click that for theScorpio that watches my WhatsApp
.
Soph (47:05):
Oh, my God.
Nele (47:07):
Negative, am I right?
They do not live up to the hypeand I like cancer men.
But cancer women I can't stand.
So you know watery people,scorpio women I like.
I like Scorpio women, I don'tknow enough people.
Scorpio woman I like, I likeScorpio woman.
Soph (47:23):
I don't know enough people to.
I know Leo's, you and Shellywait, what's Shelly's sign?
She's an Aries she's April,she's Bell's April 7th.
I don't know my own daughters,I don't even know her sign April
7th she might be in Aries.
Nele (47:45):
Yeah, and I'm a Capricorn and the rest of y'all are Leos.
Soph (47:48):
Yeah.
Nele (47:50):
Lions yes, that's fine.
Yes, well, that's it for shadyastrology y'all.
Soph (47:59):
Janelle, since we're talking about you know astrology
, I did want to share somethingwith y'all, okay, so um last
like, in an episode in june wecut.
Do you remember we coveredasteroid 99942 apocalypse yes, I
remember that it was discoveredon june 19 2004.
(48:23):
The size of three and a halffootball fields and classified
as a near earth object, or itsorbit brings it close to earth's
orbit.
So when it was first discovered, there was concern that it
could impact earth in 2029.
However, further observationruled out any significant risk
of impact um in that year.
Also, it's named um.
(48:45):
Apophos is the ancient egyptiangod of chaos, darkness and
destruction.
Uh, so basically the ultimatecosmic villain, um.
And the conspiracy theories tome is like why would you name an
asteroid that is classified asa near-Earth object that
particular name?
You know what are y'all nottelling us?
But anywho, that's Apophis.
So last December this pastDecember 2024, they discovered
(49:09):
scientists discovered asteroid2024 YR, a standard catalog name
.
Thankfully it's smaller thanApophis, but exact dimensions
they're still being studied.
It's also a near-Earth objectbut, unlike apocryphal, there's
a chance for impact.
When they discovered it inDecember, it was estimated to
(49:30):
have a 1% chance of impactingEarth on December 22nd 2032.
By February 18th this year, theprobability went up to 3.1, so
making it one of the highestreported risks for an asteroid
of its size, which could cause acity-level catastrophe if it
hit Earth.
(49:50):
But two days later they refinedit to, they reduced that number
and said the impact probabilityis 0.28%.
You know what I say.
Nele (50:01):
Bullshit Me too, girl.
First of all, alright, we needto find rich people with a
bunker, you know, just in case,we talked about the bunkers in
the episode, right?
So we need to find that.
Or maybe we do need to have ourdigital likeness, you know,
since the asteroids coming forus soon.
(50:22):
No, I'm not living in this.
Soph (50:23):
No, I think what they're doing because there's like a lot
of money into like space andhow do we build stuff on space
without having to like.
There's what I'm thinkingthey're doing with, you know,
because what is it?
Um, what's the amazon guy?
Um, bezos.
Bezos has the blue horizon musk, has, like you know stuff.
(50:46):
So there's probably some supersecretive like um spacecraft we
don't know about that's going tosave them.
It's like that movie don't lookup.
So, and this and bezos knowssomething is this man is
building his clock.
Nele (51:02):
He knows Whatever, all right.
Well, that's it for today'sepisode.
If you like the vibe, pleasemake sure to like, comment and
subscribe Until next time.
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