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October 21, 2025 17 mins

If your mind feels loud and your body feels far away, this conversation offers a way home. We dive into the real meaning of embodied living, bringing attention to inner sensations, honoring subtle emotional signals, and learning when to switch to the outer world so you can heal from stress, make clearer decisions, and deepen your worship.

We start with the simplest anchors: thirst, hunger, tiredness, and the quiet signals of tension and release. You’ll hear why chronic stress makes inner focus feel unsafe and how survival mode dials down your ability to sense low-volume emotions. Using vivid analogies like the floodlight and the flickering candle, we show how to lower the “noise” of fear while training your awareness to notice the whispers beneath it. The result is practical: fewer reactive spirals, less numbing, and more wise pauses that protect your time, your relationships, and your faith.

If this resonates, subscribe, share the episode with a friend who needs gentleness today, and leave a review with the one sensation you noticed most clearly after listening.

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SPEAKER_00 (00:04):
Welcome to Islamic Life Coach School Podcast.
Apply tools that you learn inthis podcast and your life will
be unrecognizably successful.
Now your host, Dr.
Donald Atler.

SPEAKER_01 (00:16):
Hello, hello, hello everyone.
Peace and blessings be upon allof you.
Today we're gonna talk about howto occupy your body more.
Because healing cannot happenwithout you getting in touch
with the information in yourbody.
But how do I do justice to thistopic to explain to you with
words what is only a livedexperience?
And I can't.

(00:36):
Just like I can't explain to youwith words what it's like to eat
a mango.
I mean I can try.
I can tell you it's yellow,spongy, sweet, sometimes sour,
and I can give you the glimpsesand bits and pieces of
information about what it's liketo eat a mango.
But I cannot tell you what amango tastes like until you've

(00:57):
eaten it yourself.
You're not gonna know what theexperience of eating a mango is
like in your body until you'veexperienced it yourself.
And the same stands with beingexperiential in your body, the
embodiment.
I can tell you with some wordsand information about what the
experience is like, but I cannotdo it justice.

(01:19):
This being a disclaimer, I willtry to do exactly what I said I
can't do in this podcast,meaning tell you with words how
to embody your life more.
I will try that with hopes thatI can convince you to live in
your body more, occupy your bodymore, because that is a path
towards healing.
This podcast is my invite foryou to start living an embodied

(01:43):
life.
So what does embodied livingmean?
It means that you're frequentlybringing your focus of attention
to the inside of your body,scanning, gathering information,
occupying your body, and alsosometimes switching it to outer
focus whenever you need it.
Embodied living means you'reable to gather information from

(02:06):
your body when it's relevant andimportant.
And trust me, it's relevant andimportant majority of your
waking hours.
You're working with thatinformation with or without your
awareness, so why not startpaying attention to it?
Embodied living means thatyou're enhancing your inner
cues, but also bringing yourattention to the outer world

(02:28):
when you need that information.
There's information that yourbrain is working with that's
inner focused, including yourhunger cues, these sensations
keep you inner focused, TV keepsyou outer focused.
Anything that brings yourattention to the body sensations
is inner focused.
Thirst, tiredness, love.

(02:50):
In your daily life, moment tomoment, you keep switching from
inner to outer focus.
But in order to live more of anembodied life, you start with
the basics.
You start with the sensationsbecause that's what grounds you
in your body.
Basil Vender Kalk says in hisbook The Body Keep Scores,

(03:10):
fight, flight, stress, survivalresponse keeps you outer
focused.
Because during a stressresponse, inner focused body
sensations seem unsafe to feel.
So you start with the basicsensations of basic necessities
just so you can start occupyingyour body more and relax your

(03:30):
mind into the safety of it.
You focus on the necessities ofthirst, hunger, going to the
bathroom, sensations of feelingtired, so you can rest if that's
what you need.
You start with questions likedoes this feel like thirst to
me?
How does this water going downmy throat feel like?
Does it feel better when it'scold, warm, room temperature?

(03:53):
Start with the basic sensationsof your body's needs to start
living an embodied life.
When you do that long enough,you'll start to see that
intangible things like emotionsalso start to give you
information because emotions arealso sensations and you are
going to start to develop abetter understanding of what

(04:15):
these sensations are related toand what emotions to label them
with, and how these emotionsfeel like when they are in your
body.
Not all sensations are emotions,but all emotions carry
sensations.
Now, this is universally true,but if you're not used to an
embodied life and you don't knowwhat sensations of low vibration

(04:37):
emotions feel like in your body,emotions like apathy or
detachment, then you might tellme that these emotions are not
associated with any sensations.
And no matter how hard you try,you're gonna be unable to quote
unquote feel them in your body.
And that's okay.
Not all emotions carrysensations that are detectable

(04:59):
to your conscious radar, andthat is totally okay.
That does not mean that emotionsdo not carry sensations, it just
means that you're unable to pickup on them.
It's like when you're staring ata very bright floodlight and all
of a sudden I ask you to see acandle flickering far away, your
perception is not going to betuned to pick up that visual

(05:22):
sensation of a light flickeringcandle, especially when it's
been overloaded by staring at avery bright floodlight.
The same thing happens.
If you've been living in chronicstress survival, fight and
flight response, your body isnot attuned to be able to detect
low sensation vibrationemotions.
And all of this is okay.

(05:43):
Nothing is pathology yet.
Although a lot of times it islabeled as pathology.
It just means that you have tobe able to provide yourself
support in order to startdetecting these sensations.
There is a term out there calledalexithymia where people are
unable to detect their emotions,but the process behind
alexithymia is exactly what Ijust described to you most of

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the time.
So a low stimulation of aflickering dim light is going to
be hard for you to pick up whenyour eyes are used to a very
bright light.
Just like that, a lowstimulation of low vibration
emotion is going to be hard foryou to recognize because you're
constantly living in a flood offear and stress-based emotions.

(06:30):
So to start living an embodiedlife, it does not mean that you
criticize yourself for not beingable to see the flickering
candle, and it does not meanthat you guilt yourself for
living a stressed life.
It just means that this is thedesign that you're dealing with,
and there is a framework to gofrom one place to another, to go
from seeing the bright light toseeing the dim flickering light.

(06:55):
And you do it all without shame.
So every emotion's cumbedsensations and seeming
exceptions for this is wheresensations are too dim for you
to notice, where you're not ableto pick up on them.
When you're in chronic survivalmode and you are not able to
live an embodied life becauseyou're trying to escape the
danger that it feels to be inyour body.

(07:17):
Don't judge your body if you'vebeen used to numbing these
sensations or escaping them justin order for you to feel safe.
Chronic stress offers very highvibration in your body, strong
emotions that feel like aloudspeaker, which you cannot
constantly attune to, otherwiseyou'll go deaf.
So your mind has no choice butto tune out these sounds.

(07:40):
And it definitely dims out thelow volume sounds in the process
of all of this.
So a lot of this healing work ismind-based work, where we train
the mind not to create thisloudness in the first place, not
to create this floodlights tooverstimulate the eye and the
mind.
But like I said, a lot of workis also body-based, where you

(08:04):
attune to the body in anever-increasing level just so
that the ears and the eyes ofthe mind don't get overwhelmed
by the volume, the loudness, andthe brightness of the stimulus.
Just so you can start to attuneto the subtle sounds of the body
again.
When the sounds coming from thebody are constantly too loud,

(08:25):
then the ears of the mind godeaf until you can train them to
attune to the lower volumesounds.
So just for simplicity's sake,as always, I explained these to
you as if things are black andwhite when they're never like
that.
You experience a combination ofthe above, you have glimpses of
moments of being able to hearthe lower volume sounds and

(08:49):
experience the low vibrationemotions while in other windows
in time you can't hear any ofthem at all.
And all of that is normal.
What I want to bring yourattention to is that embodied
living is the most joyfulexperience.
Starting with a bite of food,washing your hands during wudu,

(09:09):
hugging a loved one.
Embodied living is available toeveryone, so you have to start.
And this is independent of yourzip code, your tax bracket, your
body size.
It is especially independent ofany past you might have lived.
Many Muslim women think thatjust because their past was
hard, their experiences havebeen hard, living an embodied

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life is going to be out of reachfor them, which is luckily not
true.
Eating and drinking mindfully,as the sunnah of the Prophet
peace be upon him describes it,being mindfully present in the
prayer, and I use the wordmindfully, but what I really
mean is being bodyfully present,being present with your
attention and with your body,all of this leads to a full

(09:56):
embodied living experience.
And yes, of course, the mind isinvolved, you can't experience
an embodied life if you're in acoma, so you would have to have
an active nervous system, youwould have to have active
participation, but you directyour mind more and more to pay
attention to your body whenyou're consciously integrating

(10:17):
into a life of embodied living.
This podcast is an invite foryou to up level this skill in
the upcoming weeks and months.
Inshallah, I pray that you livean embodied life.
Because embodied prayers meansgrounding yourself in the body,
then elevating your mind byfocusing on Allah.
Embodied living means that youhave a radar for both good and

(10:41):
bad sensations that occupy yourbody.
Attuning to both the positiveand the negative emotions and
not recoiling at the negativeemotions.
Because any attempt of yourshutdown towards this
information that your body isholding that might be in the
shape of difficult emotions likegrief, sadness, anger.
If you turn away from thisinformation, that is usually the

(11:04):
first slip up towards living adisembodied life.
This is what usually happensfirst until you start losing
touch with both bad and goodemotions.
Even when you don't have aconscious radar for bad
emotions, when you don't haveyour perceptions attuned to
these negative emotions becauseyou're constantly living in
avoidance, disengagement,numbness.

(11:27):
Again, these are all survivalmechanisms, nothing necessarily
to judge yourself for.
But when you're living anddisengaged without having a
conscious radar of bad emotions,you still act from them.
You still avoid them, you stillsuppress them, you still engage
in activities that willotherwise help you forget them

(11:47):
and pretend that you don't havethese emotions.
These activities that you'retrying to suppress these
emotions from might otherwise behalal, but create a net negative
effect in your life.
Meaning maybe dealing with thestate of your worldly affairs is
too overwhelming for yournervous system.
So you doom scroll to avoid thedespair that you're feeling.

(12:10):
You overeat to avoid creating asuccessful business so you don't
have to feel the fear offailure.
You suppress your frustration,but your reactivity comes out
sideways on your children, yourfamilies, your colleague,
because the sensations of theseemotions are there regardless if
you bring them into yourawareness through embodied life

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or not.
Once you've started developingthe skill of attuning to your
body from pleasant emotions tolow vibration pleasant emotions
to low vibration negativeemotions to eventually expanding
your nervous system to be ableto include the high vibration
negative emotions, then you willhave truly learned the skill of

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embodied living.
This is a developed talent.
It's not something you're bornwith.
It comes with the spectrum ofallowing yourself to experience
all of the sensations that yourbody can carry, especially
including all of the good andthe bad.
All of your negative emotionsare just a set of bad
sensations.

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They all come with a message.
So there's really no downside toembodied living.
You enjoy living in the goodemotions and you learn from the
bad ones.
Either way you're feeling them.
Embodiment is the start of thislevel of healing.
Ninety percent of yourintelligence is the subconscious
mind, and your body houses thesubconscious mind, then it only

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makes sense for you to learn howto listen to it.
In my coaching programs I give alot of emphasis on embodied
living.
And a lot of women start outwith completely disregarding
their bodies and then eventuallylearn to trust it more and more,
until they learn to trust theirexperience fully and completely.
You're gonna know what a mangotastes like once you've tasted

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it yourself.
All of this means that you learnto occupy your body.
And it almost sounds comicalbecause I mean you're always
occupying your body.
You're not living in somebodyelse's body.
But the difference here is thatyou're learning to occupy your
body in a meaningful way,something that creates change.
Scanning and gatheringinformation like hunger, thirst,

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tension, tiredness, warmth,heartbeat, tightness, trusting
those signals instead of alwaysignoring or overriding them.
Switching between inner andouter focus, knowing when you're
attuned inwards to sensationsand when to shift outwards to
the world around you.
Letting sensations anchor inemotions, recognizing that

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emotions carry some physicalcomponent, even if it's subtle
or muted in stress.
All of this is gonna help youmeeting your real needs instead
of guessing.
You're gonna learn to trustyourself more and more.
If you have a need to stretch,if your body is giving you
instructions on taking a break,occupying your body helps you

(15:09):
respond accurately.
All of this is so that you canunderstand your emotions more
clearly, because emotions arewhat fuel actions, even if
you're not aware of them.
Tuning into your body to let yourecognize what you're actually
feeling instead of getting lostin overthinking and
overlabeling.
All of this is also a gateway tohealing from stress and trauma,

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because that is what drowns yoursubtle emotions.
Learning to notice smaller,quieter sensations, you retrain
your nervous system to stopnumbing out and start processing
safely.
This is what leads to makingbetter decisions.
Your body give intuitive cuesbefore the mind rationalizes.
That leads to you becoming amore natural leader, a more

(15:57):
successful person.
This enhances your presence inworship and relationships, and
all of this prevents reactivepatterns which you're then not
spending hours and hours latertrying to repair from.
Healing really begins when youoccupy your body.
Listen to the sensations thathold your emotions.

(16:18):
There is infinite wisdom in yoursubconscious mind.
When you live bodyfully, everysignal becomes guidance, and
your presence becomes the groundfor both joy and worship.
With that I pray to AllahSubhanahu wa Ta'ala.
Ya Allah, allow me to return tomy body with peace and
gentleness.

(16:38):
Help me notice the sensationsyou've placed in me, and help me
trust this design that you'vecreated with your infinite
wisdom.
Let my body be a place ofsafety, my emotions be a source
of learning, and my presence bea path to your worship and
closeness to you.
Amin Yarabul Almin.

(16:59):
Please keep me in your du'as.
I will talk to you guys nexttime.
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