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April 10, 2025 31 mins

📝 Episode Description: In this crucial episode, host Mike P. and co-host Katlyn Darling welcome Dr. Cathy White, a specialist in trauma-informed practices and suicide prevention, to discuss the vital importance of addressing these issues in educational settings. The conversation delves into recognizing signs of trauma and distress, implementing preventative measures, and effectively responding to crises. Dr. White shares valuable insights on fostering resilience and safety among both students and staff.

💬 Quotes from the Episode:

  • "For young children and for adolescents, the brain is this beautiful, malleable, plastic thing."
  • "COVID was hands down a collective trauma, more for some than for others."
  • "Teachers generally have a rule of thumb. Seven to ten times, I need to say this, seven to ten times in the classroom... for students to remember what we talked about."
  • "Unfortunately, trauma has always been a factor in education, but it's definitely gotten worse in recent times."
  • "It's okay to ask, 'Are you feeling suicidal right now?'"
  • "You have to put your own oxygen mask on first before you can help others."


📌 Key Insights:

  • The Prevalence of Trauma:

    • Trauma has always been present in schools due to factors like poverty, abuse, and family issues.

    • COVID-19 exacerbated trauma through social isolation and potential home instability.

    • Current societal issues, including environmental concerns and political anxieties, contribute to student stress.

  • Trauma in International Schools:

    • Despite perceptions of privilege, students in international schools can experience trauma (e.g., generational trauma, neglect, lack of parental support).

    • Money does not eliminate mental health challenges or family dysfunction.

  • Impact of Isolation:

    • Isolation is a significant risk factor, increasing anxiety and stress when students lack supportive relationships.

  • Relationship Building:

    • Strong relationships are protective factors against trauma and suicide.

    • Relationship mapping helps identify students who lack connections with adults in school.

    • Small, consistent conversations between teachers and students are powerful tools for building connections.

  • Responding to Suicidal Behavior:

    • It's okay to directly ask students about suicidal feelings.

    • Validate students' feelings and provide a safe space for them to talk.

    • Connect students with trained professionals (school counselors, gatekeepers, or community mental health resources).

  • Supporting Educators:

    • Educator well-being is crucial for a healthy school system.

    • Self-care is essential for teachers to manage stress and avoid burnout.

    • Administrators should support teacher well-being through communication and offering relief.

  • Compassion Fatigue:

    • The concept of compassion fatigue is introduced, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a sustainable emotional workload.


🛑 Conclusion: This episode highlights the critical need for schools to address trauma and suicide prevention proactively. Dr. White's expertise provides educators and administrators with practical strategies for building supportive relationships, responding to crises, and prioritizing their own well-being. By fostering a culture of care and connection, schools can create safer and more resilient environments for students and staff.


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