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March 16, 2025 50 mins

In this episode of "It Depends: Lessons in Technology Leadership," host Kevin Goldsmith discusses Chapter 33 of his book, which details the career framework he helped develop at Spotify. Kevin emphasizes that a career pathing framework is the most critical document for engineering leaders. It serves as the backbone of organizational culture by reinforcing desired behaviors through promotion and performance management.

Kevin explains how the Spotify framework was carefully designed to:

  • Emphasize team over individual contribution (reflecting Swedish vs. American cultural differences)
  • Focus on behaviors and professional maturity rather than achievements
  • Define spheres of impact that expand with seniority
  • Align individual success with company success
  • Provide flexibility in career choices

He describes the careful considerations that went into creating the framework, including being conservative with the number of levels and keeping step designations private to avoid embarrassing employees. Kevin also shares personal experiences from Microsoft that influenced his approach.

This episode is part of a trio on career pathing, with the next episode covering lessons learned from implementing the framework.

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