THE BIG RIFF - 102 - uhm.. EPISODE 100 but CONTINUED - It's a Hard Rock Life

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(00:35):
Hard Rock life. All right, can we go around the
table and introduce yourselves? Joey B.
This way, Nick. Nick.
Yeah, Nick's fine. You too.
You too. Oh, me.
There's two of you. I'm Webster.
I'm Jess. There it is, there it is.
We're all here. One big happy family.

(00:57):
Fucking hey so. Actually, actually fuck AB
because if you look at it, if you were to fucking A, it's kind
of like pointy and shit and it would hurt.
It's a fuck AB. Couple of boobies.
Yeah, that makes sense. Shaped like a.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you were to look at it like a
play DoH cutter, an A would not be a fun shape to fuck.

(01:19):
That's that sounds like a what? What?
What's that old comedian's name that passed away?
George Carlin. Oh my.
God was it. It's a wisdom.
No. Was that who that was?
No. No.
Was that just you? That was just.
I just rolling off. You said fucking a that was
good. Don't fucking a fucking.
B That was good. 'Cause if you look at an A it
looks like a triangle and that would hurt, but AB is like kind

(01:39):
of. Unless you're into that.
Certainly don't fucking X. At least in lower, unless in me
a lower case A at least cause inupper case a don't look fun.
No. No, not at all.
No. There's nothing fun about that.
I I don't think that seems like a good time any who.
What's going on with Branch Davidian?
Oh, there's a lot going on with.Actually, a lot has gone on

(02:02):
major lineup changes. We just released a new EP with
some of our past members to kindof move into a new phase, you
know? Yeah, who just played guitar in
the song you released? Let's Mark Rizzo so Mark Rizzo

(02:22):
from so fly he you know, he's wewe profounded, profounded him
amongst our, you know, playing shows with people, right?
Yeah. And yeah, he we asked him hey
man, you want to you want to laya track down for us?
And Mark Rizzo was like, yeah, I'm just, dude, we got you back,
dude. And he laid down a riff over one
of the and. Yeah.

(02:42):
Yeah. What's the name of that song?
In the shadows. In the shadows, Yeah, I heard it
today. It was fucking awesome.
I think you mentioned it last time you were on that he was
going to do. This.
Yeah, and actually later on thismonth, towards the end of the
month, we're playing a show at the Ceno in Hull and Mark is
going to be headlining that show.
What band is he in? What's?
So he's going to be headlining it as himself doing a solo act,

(03:05):
OK. And, and maybe if we're lucky,
we'll be get him on stage to laydown a solo over a song with us,
you know? That would be dope man.
You know, he's a really humble dude.
He's super cool. You know what is he?
He's originally from El Nino, right?
Or something like that. Like when we were kids like El
Nino, like with that, like Spanish new metal band or

(03:26):
whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but he ended up in Soul Fly and in Cavalera Conspiracy.
Oh. That's how we ended up in.
He's not still doing so far right.
No, he's not neither of those. He's like on his own doing it.
He's just, he's like the rest ofus, just trying to venture out
on his own now. Because Max went back with like
the Igor all like everybody in the band is named Cavalera now.

(03:48):
You know, like it's like like Igor and Max.
That's a weird move. Like, so like Sepultura or
Cavalera, whatever you want to call it nowadays.
Yeah, is actually all. Cavalera.
Are they really related? Yeah, yeah, except for like
maybe the lead guitarist might be a high end gun, but like
everybody pretty much is like full in the whole support act.

(04:12):
I mean, even the guy who does security is, if you look at him,
you're like, is Claire like Max's uncle or cousin?
Clearly a Cavalera. Yeah, but I know I enjoy, you
know, I've seen them. I I saw them last year.
They did their original first two albums that they did a
Sepultura, Beastial Devastationsand Morbid Visions.

(04:34):
And that was a great show to see.
Like they will like I mean you, you walk out of that and they
played the paradise. And for me, subtle tour is like
my like band. Like that is the band that
cemented me in who I like my music vision is sure.
So like Max Cavalier is definitely someone that like
I'm, I'm on track with his like mind, you know, and seeing them

(04:57):
at the paradise and like right up front like that, like like
just as close as Brian is to me,like Max is right there.
Yeah, that's crazy. Mormon Vision.
Dude, it's awesome. It's fucking nothing, nothing
could and and see an Igor just like blasting away because Igor
has not missed a beat in his entire life.
So I mean, you look at all thesemetal drummers that everyone has

(05:20):
like gives all these accolades to, but really, Igor Cavallari,
dude, he's. Like oh dude, he's amazing.
He's like the Mick Jagger of drums.
Yeah, yeah. Like he has been doing thrash
speed metal since the like, since it became like when he was
12 when they came out with like the first Sepultura album when
they were like little kids with painted faces.
And here they are like 40 something years later still like

(05:44):
just. And I speculate that Sepultura,
the band that is Sepultura now, is retiring.
And I bet that the Monica will be reclaimed.
And I bet in about a year and a half we'll see like a real
Sepultura show. No shit.
And that shit will be off the hook all.

(06:04):
Right. Imagine I never got.
To see Sepultura like and and you know the OG Sepultura.
I've seen them with Derrick Green sing, but it ain't the
same. It's not the same I I seen
Sepultura like real Sepultura. He's like cool shit but.
Roots Sepultura, yeah, I saw, I think it was a, it was a Ozfest
show, I think. And I saw FIA Factory,

(06:26):
Sepultura, White Zombie and Pantera and it was like the
Great Southern Trunkill era. No shit.
And that was like one of my first concerts as a kid.
That's a cool concert. That's amazing.
Yeah, dude. I've always wanted to see
Pantera like, well, original with all the bands.
Like nothing compares to that shit dude.

(06:47):
Actually, every band you've everseen in your entire life
couldn't even prepare you for what, those dudes?
Were yeah, I believe in, man. Everybody that I know who is
gone to the original band members, they just say it's like
on another level. The sound checks, like you'd be
in the pack and lot drinking beers and shit and Pantera would

(07:07):
be on it like because they opened the parking lots back
then, like working early, not like that now.
Like everyone's like a douche bag.
Yeah. But back then, like they would
open them up at like 8:00 AM andyou could get there and start
drinking and, and at like 9:30 in the morning, Dime would be
out there doing fucking sound check.
And he's fucking rattling your car windows in the parking lot

(07:27):
with his fucking sound check from his amps inside that place.
Like like straight up like Jimi Hendrix, like that oscillating
sound. We ear drums don't even what the
fuck they're doing it's. Like the Randall Walls were
fucking insane. Insane.
Is Rex still alive? Yeah.
Rex is still involved. He played with him this summer

(07:48):
when I saw him with Metallica. No shit.
Yeah, actually it's rad. Unfortunately, I would say that
was a very for me as a Pantera fan, that was probably a down
point that that that that showing kind of sucked.
Why when they died? No, that's like no, that no.
That I think the show was awesome.
No, the the show, the show in Gillette with Pantera, with
Metallica, Let's put this. I saw them a year prior with

(08:11):
Lamb of God at Guilford, New Hampshire.
And it was one of the, so they booked those runs with Metallica
and then they started also, oh shit, we're going to fill in our
own shows that we're headlining.And they headlined Guilford.
Like, so I bought the Metallica ticket for Gillette Stadium.
That's like that consoles like 2years away.
But the Guilford ones, when theycame out, they were like four

(08:32):
months away and they headlined. It was, it was King Parrot and I
think Amana my Earth. And yeah, yeah.
And it was, yeah, Pantera. Yeah, never listening.
And I saw, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be, I'm dude, I saw real
Pantera like a couple times, enough times to be like

(08:53):
beneficial in life. Like I saw a fucking Pantera.
Yeah, that's dude. Like, yeah, I saw it.
I heard it, I saw it. I left that Guilford, New
Hampshire show going wow, dude, that was like 95% Pantera.
Like dude, it was there like dude, no, no, no.
That was like a full like for for me knowing.

(09:13):
So you weren't going to get any closer?
And then I saw that Metallica show and I was like, that was
not what I saw in Guilford. No kidding.
No, no. And I, I feel bad.
You should have bought tickets to Guilford because in Guilford
you would have saw the whole full blown fucking Pantera thing
on fucking high. High on fucking full wheel.
It's not Dimebag and Vinny, so Ididn't go into it thinking these

(09:36):
guys better blow my fucking titsoff.
Yeah, sure. You know what I mean?
I've seen them. They're playing Mansfield,
right? They're playing Mansfield
without without. They're playing in Mansfield
without Metallica. So you should go to that show,
am I? Because I think part of it is as
Metallica's moved on to the fulldigital modern like modeling.
Yeah, They're not using amsite. That's what those.
OK, if you look at this shows, they have these weird stacks of

(09:59):
speakers and that I think is allit's like, imagine like a really
tall like version of the Elevenizer, like like that those
speakers that they sell, dude, it's like those digital modeling
shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know what you're talking. About it's like having like a
real system and real AMS. Yeah, they're using like the
digital shit. Right, right.

(10:19):
Honestly, Pantera sounded like water to me.
And for me, like Pantera cannot sound like water.
No, Pantera is like the most aggressive in your face, ripping
your face off. Your eyeballs are fucking
spinning in your head. Your ears are spinning and.
You think it was because they were using all the digital?
Yeah. No, no, because I seen them a
year before where Zach is using his personal stuff, all the

(10:42):
stuff without Metallica, just them and lay my God.
And I left that show going, Dude.
I thought Dime Dime, dime would have came if I, if I could have
walked out of that show, Dime himself, he would have been
like, dude didn't be proud. He'd be like, dude didn't be
proud. And that's how he would have
left it. Dude didn't be proud, you know?
My buddy did me good. That's how he would have left

(11:02):
it, right? I thought I saw pretty good.
I mean, Jess, pretty good. Jessica, you with me at the
Metallica show. So how was your experience?
That was fuck you, and that was.Her first time seeing Pantera,
and you'd probably say I didn't see Pantera, I saw something of
Pantera, yeah. I mean, I agree, but I
definitely think that like New Hampshire was way better than
the Metallica show. I mean, they definitely were.

(11:25):
It was like full on Pantera up in Guilford.
And Metallica makes. Everyone I am shooting in
fucking I agree slamming drums and fucking Phil being like.
Yeah, that's why we'll. Put it this way, I was standing
on my seat. Like you had to and.
Then at Metallica, I was just like, this, this is kind of

(11:46):
cool. But like, no one's really even
excited. Like, yeah.
So Pantera headlined that show, right?
Oh. Yeah, OK, good.
Really. Over Metallica.
No, no, no, no, I'm talking about the Guildford.
Oh, OK OK, so on those big showsI've noticed.
Over and they did she like Hell's wrath and shit like that.
That was like. I noticed headliner bands sound

(12:06):
better than opening bands on biggigs like that.
They the sound guys like have they?
They stage like the sound. Yeah, they, I've seen that
before. They do that.
Yeah, they totally do that. They definitely.
Do that. I we.
The opening band sucks. It sounds terrible.
Yeah. And the next band sounds a
little bit better. The next band sounds a little
bit better than that, Yeah. And then the headlining band,

(12:27):
You know what? Fucking rips.
I noticed that when we went to go.
See, you tell you how many timesI've seen Pantera is the
headlining act to fucking major bands that we love.
Like, yeah, Black Sabbath, you know, and and they didn't.
They played after Black Sabbath.No, they opened for black.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm just saying they didn't sound watered down
when that happened. You can't water down those bands

(12:48):
or you should be fired. But that was also when Dime was
alive, and you can't water down that.
Dime was a one of kind duty. You're not watering down that
shit. Yeah.
I didn't notice it. I could have sworn I saw cabs on
the stage because I remember looking.
Down It was all those big circlespeakers you saw all around the.
Maybe it was also my birthday weekend.

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I was trashed. So I did the research too on the
sound because I was a little disappointed because I was
listening to it and I'm like, itsounded like.
Like that guy, like going at theshow.
Like there's been bands. On you, I was just like
listening, watching them play and I'm like, they feel like,
you know what, they will listen.They would slap his phone.
I was saying they were, they were just, they seemed like they
were not interested in being there.

(13:31):
Called the band, Yeah. Dude there's bands that had to
like wait like stop their tours because like their digital stuff
wasn't working. And they weren't having problems
actually. You could see Phil being like, I
think you're doing like this love or something like that.
There's some paths where he goesto be like man love.
There's love, scream, love childor whatever.
And like you could see his like in the air monitors weren't

(13:52):
working. And he's like looking at someone
going what the fuck, dude? What the fuck dude?
So. Stadiums must suck, but when I.
Saw when I when I saw them in Guilford, New Hampshire though,
that shit was like, like I said,95% Pantera like like Vinny and
Dime themselves would have been like.
I have to say. Damn them boys did like. 90%

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because Vinny and Dime weren't there so.
Yeah, well, Charlie Bonante is no, no.
Yeah, he's no slouched. And neither is.
No, Zack, Wilde's not the personI would pick to do that 'cause
I, I. Wouldn't.
Even know he's like a. Bluesy.
But who would you pick? Yeah.
That's, I mean, that's a bad question.
No, that's, so that's like a, that's like a character

(14:36):
question. Sure.
God, who would you pick up? Well, you pick Zach because
because Zach is like his. His his Yeah, Zach is like his
buddy. His.
Yeah, he. Was Ty Ray.
That's where you roll with Zach.Yeah, see, I don't know, maybe
it was like a nostalgia thing and like it hit me in the foot.
Like Ola England struck A chord.Ola England could probably do a
better job than Zach could. Yeah, but but it's not the same.

(14:58):
Zach is like. Chemistry.
Zach is like his like. His butt, yeah.
Yeah, so that show, it could have been all the booze intake,
but you know, when they did the tribute to Vinnie and Don, you
know, they had both their faces,like in in the kiss makeup on
the bass drums. No shit.
And like, they obviously they had them on the screen, you

(15:19):
know, fucking shredding old videos and shit that like that
hit a chord, dude. To me, I was like, man, yeah,
like I've been following this band since I was.
Like when I seen them headline, when I seen them headline, they
did like a whole Cemetery Gates intro into it.
Yeah, that's cool. And it was insane.
It was cool. It was cool dude.
How do you? A heart attack from doom, coke

(15:40):
and fucking banging strippers. Yeah, that's what I.
Thought wasn't. He was still going hard like.
That well, he wasn't quite 600 lbs.
You know, drums can't be that fat, but he he definitely lived.
He lived like AI think once. I mean, could you could you?
I'm, I'm just going to be honesthere, like just me digesting
watching my nephew die is difficult.

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I couldn't watch imagine watching someone blow my
brother's fucking brains out in front of me and then take shots
on me too while I'm diving behind my drum kit.
I, I don't think as a human, I think after that there were so
many things that I would like have a hard time digesting that
they would definitely lead to anearly death like it did with

(16:21):
him. Definitely.
And I think with him was like heart disease and some other
stuff. It was like ultimately a heart
attack. I heard it was toke related and.
He was probably direct. Lifestyle anyway, yeah.
I didn't really look into it. Because he probably, dude, I
mean, I couldn't imagine watching my brother's brains get
blown out in front of me, though.
Yeah, I'd be like, OK, I'm just going to like sniff coke out of

(16:42):
strippers asses until I have a heart attack and die.
Sure. Oh wait, that's what I did.
Yeah, he went out like a champ. If I was in his position, I
don't know what I would do. I don't.
I don't think I would ever bounce back from that.
You know, like, seeing that, like, it's one thing to like,
have the newspaper tell you whathappened, but you, like, watch

(17:04):
it happen. Yeah, is like a whole different
step. Yeah, I mean, I watched, I
watched my brother like, you know, die pretty much.
I mean I I watch him wither awayto nothing from cancer which is
horrible, but if I had seen him get his brains blown out on a
fucking stage. That's more traumatic, yeah.
Well, that's, that's where like that's, that's like.
I mean, they're both heavy, but yeah, that's different.
That's different. Death is never an easy thing.

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What I was trying to see is losing a sibling sucks.
No matter what, imagine. Seeing.
Death, death itself is never an easy thing to confront.
And no matter how someone dies, and sometimes it's like your
grandma and she's dying for months in front of you and
you're a little bit more adjusted to it.
And everyone's having coffee around her while she's like,
yeah, in the chair, you know, It's like, and everyone's having
tea and like, oh, you know, it was, it was such a good life,

(17:50):
you know? Maybe having sex in the back
seat of the Buick she gave you. But but then but then like
pulled over. Yeah.
But then there's like there's like deaths that.
Like it was a meme. It was a meme.
No. Sorry.
Having sex with your. Grandma like you know her soul
looking at you being like I gaveyou that Bo like you son of a
bitch. Fuck that, she's a good granny.

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She's slapping. Yes, and twisted a little lamp,
buddy. All right, get it a little
deeper. Has that lava lamp always been
up there? Yeah.
It's been up there for a couple of years, actually, Yeah.
I should never noticed it, yeah.It's actually in the background.
I got it. 0222 years, two, 2 1/2years ago, whenever Dave ran the

(18:32):
cables for all the Internet thatwent up there.
That was all right. That was already like 3 years
ago. Yeah, that's fucking weird.
Dave did a great job in here, man.
No he didn't. He did all the painting and
shit. Fucking.
The walls falling down. That.
Is screwed up. It's Brian.
Brian's good as grumbles Brian grumble.

(18:54):
You can walk over there and shake the wall.
Oh yeah, I'm not surprised. Yeah, you're right.
Dave did a fucking terrible job.Both the big fans and the lava
lamp and the ceiling. What the fuck, Dave?
I think it was we were next doorwhen you guys moved.
In holy fuck I just thought of anew idea.
Sorry to cut everyone off. We didn't have any outlets.

(19:16):
How about? How about a new?
A new you. Over.
A new version of music it's it'slike you know you like heard a.
Death metal of the mic it's going to be.
Loud sling, sling blade core. Imagine like a whole version of
death metal but everyone sings like fucking the dude from Sling
Blade. Mashed potatoes.
Mashed potatoes. They call.

(19:37):
This almost was Primus at that point, right?
It's. Definitely already a thing.
Probably. Call this a Kaiser blade.
I call it a swing. Blade microphone.
Oh, they did call that Primus. Is that what they called it?
Primus I. Don't.
Know. My name is Mud.
My name is Blade. Matt, Matt, want to call 911?

(20:01):
Send someone over here. Reckon.
I don't think he's going to movetoday.
Fuck yes. So you guys want to do the
continuation of that? You got the list?
Yeah, Did you? What number are we on?
I think, I think we got through like 27 numbers or 20.
Welcome back to 100. So we left off in a a fucking

(20:23):
round Number. Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, that's good. It only took us 3 1/2 hours, but
we got it. It's.
Just going to be worse. Thank you.
Thank you Cunningham's. Oh, would you mind rolling up
another one of them? What the fuck?

(20:45):
I didn't mean to cut y'all off. Kevin can't.
Do 100 questions. I can't remember fucking 100
questions. Your mic just spell.
Who's Mike though? I don't.
Know #5 I don't care anymore. It's fine.
It's fine. Everything's fine and. #21.
Yes, 21. All right, this is a good one.

(21:07):
What was the last thing you searched for on Spotify?
I have. To fucking think about that
because it wasn't that long ago,but there, there you go.
Oh yeah, that's right. You just.
Ding. Shit, this is the last thing I
fucking looked in Spotify. If anybody else knows the answer
for yourself, answer how can. You.

(21:29):
Spotify I'm self promoting with my shirt.
Apple Music. So same thing.
There you go, I. Actually did look up Branch
Davidian today on Spotify. Oh, shout out to you.
Because it wasn't. It wasn't on.
Local homeboys. You guys have it everywhere
except it's not on the band camppage.
You know. I lied to the FBI by Alkaline

(21:50):
Trio. That's what I just, I was
literally just dated on the way over here.
I use table saws, not computers.I get it, you guys should put it
on Bancamp because you can't listen to it there without
having. OK, wait a minute, wait a
minute, answers. Fucking answers.
We only get. Oh yeah, actual only.
We got the 21 out of 3. Hours last.

(22:11):
Time we were here. It's true.
Was that a three hour banger? Yeah, I think so.
Oh my God. I think it was.
We got so sidetracked we. Shit, Eric.
I got I sidetracked your show. If you listen to the podcast,
you'll be like, who the fuck with this guy?
He showed up and fucking. He just walks in.
He's like this. Is fucking great.

(22:32):
He sits down. I'm like, I'll go all.
Right. Wait a minute.
All right, so you got it. Who else?
I answered. I answered.
What was your? Answer.
It was Brett Sabitian. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right on.
Oh. Shit.
You're up, Joey. Like.
Didn't you just listen to me? How do you not remember this?
Show, I told. Me what?
I looked. Up.

(22:54):
No I don't. I use Apple Mac.
Music. Eric What?
Did. You laugh.
Look at. Oh.
Haywire. Hey, Haywire, that's a good
they're a good fucking band, man.
Been killing it. Yeah, I see their name.
I didn't really know much of that music, so I was like, I
want to check this shit out. They.

(23:14):
Got I feel like they made it pretty quick for like the
attention they're getting. It happened fast, yeah.
How long have they been a band for?
Just a couple years. Couple.
Years, yeah. Haywire, yeah.
They're fucking good. We'll.
Be. Waiting for Eric Stanson for
quite some time. What do you have?
One I told you. Tool What?
Was it Tool? Oh, nice.
What was it? That was a little loud.

(23:36):
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen.Jambi.
Is that one of the newer? Ones the new ones, hey.
No, that's an old didn't. Is that off opium?
It's like the Super loud Tool song.
OK, I don't. Remember, because I'm.
Like, really? Bad I think it's off the same
album with like Opiate and. Stuff like that.
He. Goes over.
C Yeah, zombie is off of 10,000 days.

(23:58):
Get your shit together, hey? Mate, sorry man, I'm.
Old man. Oh shit.
Muster not the Super tool. You guys ever see a tool?
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
We actually. You see them too?
Yeah, Boston. I see tools wherever I go.
How was that show good? Yeah, I'm a living.
Tool you can see is cool because.
You. Can get us, it's general

(24:19):
admission, so you can just get as close.
As go anywhere, yeah, that's cool.
So that show was cool because like all the people that were
there for the shit earlier in the day, which was lame, had
like veiled and then all the like sea of black shirts came in
like right before Tool. Of course though, I'm like 5
feet tall and everyone else is 7feet tall so I had to like wedge
myself between 27 foot tall guysbut.

(24:41):
I have that problem too. Actually, we did get to see
James Manac Keenan, like, prettymuch be on like the Harvard
campus and like, insult everyonein front of him.
I think he came out in full riotgear like like he's a SWAT team
member, Harvard. And he was basically like, he's
awesome. All of you here today can thank
you mommies and your daddy the security team.

(25:04):
I'd want to fight you. Little lifetime.
He's like a real wrestler and shit, like yeah it.
Does like jiu jitsu? Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to make this comparison.
Once wrestling. I'm going to make this
comparison comparison once, and once you hear it, you'll never
be able to Unsee it. Give it to me.
Once you hear it, you won't be able to Unsee it.
OK. I believe you.

(25:24):
Dan Lauzzi is James Minat Keenan.
His name's Maynard James Keenan.Yeah, who does like?
You said like Jon Benet Ramsey or something?
What does Dan do for fun? What does Dan do for fun?
What does Dan do for fun? Enters his daughter in beauty
pageants. Jujitsu, Yeah.

(25:44):
Yeah, he does. What does?
What does Minat Keenan do for fun?
Key and pale what? Eric, the question is what did
you last look up? Yeah, Thank you.
Jess you. Guys need me the answer is Jon
Benet Ramsey big. Booty.

(26:05):
Latinas. No, I don't.
Talk and doubt it. Is that a rock?
Group. Honestly, the last thing I
looked up before I came here wasI was I was listening to my own
music like a lame duck. Wow, that's not a lame duck.
What, so you were tell everybody, Remind them who you
are. Ranch Davidian.

(26:27):
Yeah, I just, I had what's actually, I haven't since we
released the music. I haven't.
Actually, were you like, oh. We can download my own music on
Spotify. No, I'm too.
I'm too. No, I mean, I got plenty of
music on Apple Music and all that shit, but if anything, you
know, you're more critique yourself.
You listen to stuff and you say.Like, yeah, for sure.
It could have done that way better.
That's the time when I listen tomy music producing Just recorded

(26:49):
it. Yeah, and producing should have
been like pushed for something more tyrants from I'm not dead
yet. Shout out Terrence.
Yeah, he did a great job. He did a really good job, you
know. He recorded you guys.
Yeah, he did. And and blessing.
To him, he's a smart. Dude, you really, you really
made it happen. Yeah, dude, I love that.
Guy Yeah, so. You know, hats off to him.

(27:09):
Yeah, he's good. Dude, so wait a minute, did you
answer the question Spotify or Apple Music?
Apple Music. What was it?
His own branch? Oh, it was OK.
All right. All right.
Sorry. Now, before that would have been
Chuck Berry if if you asked me for my own music, it was Chuck
Berry. OK, yeah, you a big Chuck Berry

(27:30):
band. Dude, I love I love 50's rock.
Yeah, yeah. It's pretty dope.
Good stuff. That's the shit that that's the
shit that gets me, especially being so, you know, disclosure,
you know, having the family problems going on and stuff and
having a hard time trying to find like no, the, the want, the
want or will to move. I put on Chuck Berry because

(27:53):
Chuck Berry moves. Me.
Yeah. Hell yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man.
And even sometimes. And if not Chuck Berry,
Creedence Clay about him. Yeah.
John Fogerty. 747. Coming out of the sky, how does
it not get even moving? All right.
Next question. You're right, it makes me move
that. Only took 20.
Minutes next. Hey, this is how it goes.

(28:14):
Get used to it. It took us 3 hours to get
through 20 questions. We'll be.
Lucky if there's a hundred of them, that's true.
We'll be lucky. If we get no, you know what?
Let's. Express actually, Hinge S the
list. Being a woman, she'll make sure
that we like No, no, no. Brian did that last time.
We don't need another woman here.
Aw man, I love. What did I do?

(28:34):
She's got can't. Do that.
Ryan, what kept saying? Next question.
Next question. No.
I don't need to. I got Jess.
You got it buddy. All right. 22 What is your
biggest fear already? Happened.
Claustrophobic. So yeah.

(28:56):
Claustrophobia. Yeah, claustrophobia.
Yeah, like, is there a particular claustrophobia?
Though like are you? Like there's different stages of
it. We're talking like buried
underground in a coffin. Yeah, that'd be pretty fucking
terrible. What level is like your fear?
I want to be actually, you know what?
My my claustrophobia. My claustrophobia is so bad that

(29:17):
when I die, I want to be left out in the open on top of Mount
Everest. Sorry.
Like I want to be up somewhere where it's very open.
But you're going to be dead, so.I know, but that's how bad.
You won't be thinking about the claustrophobia.
I don't even care. I don't care.
But getting there, getting thereyou like.
Yeah, being buried with suck. You know what?

(29:41):
You know? You know what?
I'll bring you up to Mount Everest if you die.
Dude, thank you. It's.
Going to be a rough rough ride but.
Fair enough. I mean, if you're willing to do
that. I don't.
Know if they're going to let me carry a dead body up.
There they might not. You'll have to figure it out.
Definitely not. You can, you can carry me up in
pieces. I don't give a fuck.
I don't want to watch. Bunch of different suitcases.
Yes, exactly dude. You know what freaks me out?

(30:03):
Those fucking you ever get into Mr. Ballin the YouTube
storyteller Mr. Ballin. Oh guys, all right, no to
selves. I just gave you guys a fucking
gem. I get weird.
Check out Mr. Ballin. That's my homegrown Incredible
Hulk. I'll.
Remind you, but his story like OK, the the stories that freak
me out the most are the underwater cave divers that get

(30:25):
fucking lost in like underwater caverns and they don't come out.
Fucking meat. Have you have you ever been
stuck underwater? Yeah, that's pretty sucks.
For not. I mean, yeah, when you panic.
You're done, dude. Yeah, it's finished.
Why have you? Well, I, I jumped into like AI
don't know, off like 100 foot ledge or 80 foot ledge in
Florida into an Olympic swimmingpool and was what I would do

(30:47):
when flips. And I mean, when I was in the
water fucking around and thinking I was going up for air
and I hit the bottom and it was like a 16 foot pool or
something. I was out of breath.
So on my on my way up, dude, I was swallowing water like Jesus
like, and it was that's horrific.
That's terrifying. Like I said, Joe.

(31:09):
So scared. Joe is probably one of the best
Walders I've ever met in my lifeand if he could well underwater
he would be a millionaire. Oh, I know underwater.
Well, he's going to pay so much fucking money.
Yeah, but every you have to, youhave to sign your life off every
time you do it. Yeah, you.
Do that. With your.
Fucking work, no? Way I don't trust anybody enough

(31:29):
that dude like 'cause. Without being a Navy.
If people don't do the grounds right, you can get.
Shot from death, dude. That is, I'm all set.
As soon as I heard that I was like no, I.
Don't you'd have to be a Navy diver?
No way. No, dude, that's one.
Of the even that like yeah. That's one of the worst Mr.
Balls stories I've ever heard isthey're fucking underwater
welders and they go down in the fucking dive bell, right?

(31:50):
And they have a weight. The pipes and shit.
Yes. And they and they.
Yeah, they're the feminists. Yeah.
What? Oh no.
Here's Nikolai. All right, so that was 22.
Who's next? Who?
Who? What's the biggest fears?
Biggest fears? Are you going?
To say. Everyone answer no no just me I
don't even know. Kevin's like 23.
Let's go. Next question, please.

(32:13):
I don't know, biggest fears me. I mean, for me, I guess like
failing my kids and I, for me that's kind of.
Hard failing your kids, You. Said, can I switch mine?
You did not with that too. Yeah, that that's the worst.
Failing your kids is terrible. Yeah, I don't think it's as bad
as getting pooped on. I mean, I don't want to get
pooped on. You don't.
Want to complain? Ultimately, we.

(32:34):
All in the past months, like in the past month, we've lost a
nephew and we're. I mean, it's there.
It's. Honest.
I mean, no, you're, you're speaking from your mind, no.
No, I'm just saying like, like failing your kids in general.
Like now I'm not saying like him.
I'm saying like anything that wedo that makes your kids like,
not succeeded like. Yeah, very.
Kids. Like sometimes it's out of your

(32:56):
hands though. It is but like as a parent like.
That you don't. You don't want that feeling
sucked. Yeah.
I'm your husband and you, you are a die hard woman and you
ignore this wife. I feel like I failed my
daughter. If she falls and hits her head
like I'm like, I gotta fucking prevented that.
You can't. Yeah, you can't.
They're. Gonna go to school and then
they. Start getting made fun of and

(33:16):
shit and you're like Oh my God. Oh yeah, yeah.
And you think it's your fault? It's like, no, it's not your
fault, right? Kids are assholes, Yeah.
And then they become like 11/12/13 and then they like get
their own mind and they start doing shit.
And then you remember when you were that age and you're like, I
was an asshole, like. Oh yeah, that was a prick, but.
I mean, like Joe, you knew me atthat age.
Yeah, we were assholes, yeah, super assholes.

(33:38):
But I mean, we, I feel like we were kind of assholes to each
other. We weren't really like picking
on kids and shit off of. Not that I know.
Yeah, you thought that. I know they weren't.
I mean, hey, they was. They were fucking with kids.
You. Guys were just shocked though,
yeah. Yeah, yeah, without.
Even realizing you were destructive, you were
destructive. Oh yeah, yeah.
We probably scared kids, you know?
The kids these days are just faced with different things, way

(34:02):
different. And you even in some ways we did
some shit that was like way crazier And but in some ways
they do shit that's also way crazier.
Yeah. We were cooler.
Way cooler. Way fucker, no.
So full Full disclosure, Full disclosure right, right up front
here, people of the podcast. What do you think that means?
What? Full disclosure.

(34:23):
I'm going to be completely honest as a human being with my
life right now to you, OK? Yeah.
Me and Jess here 3 1/2 weeks agowe watched our you know a family
member, you just. You can't.
Well, I mean Well, I mean if you.
If you got to talk, no, OK, talk.
So you have like a tough month. Right Oh, I just for the right.
So we offered condolences off the show because we didn't know

(34:44):
how you felt about. That's fine, right?
But that's not where I'm going with this.
Right. OK.
And then as parents, we're goingthrough a different thing.
Yeah, we got her, her son. Who is is he like he like tries
to live life like $0.50. He wants to get rich or die
trying. That's who he is.
He wants to drive the cool cow with the turbo.

(35:06):
He's going to do whatever he canto make all the money to get a
car though together. It is many.
He is who he is right? Well, here we are after dealing
with like a death, right, with all the side right.
And last weekend her son comes into our bedroom at like 3:00 in
the morning. He was like, well, I just got
out of jail because I just got arrested for having an

(35:28):
unregistered loaded firearm. Oh fuck.
Because he's been drug dealing and what, what what?
It's all public knowledge. People can look it up, never
mind this. But we don't know his name
anyway. He's young, he's young.
How old? Is he Hey, they don't put him in
jail for? That he's not just saying like,
like Joe. Don't push, Joe.
You, you know they. Haven't.

(35:49):
Been dude not. Yet, yeah, they haven't.
Been. Oh, not, Not yet.
Not yet. Not yet.
Oh, OK. All right.
He might get sentenced. Oh, he.
Will. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like Joe? We've we've, we've, well, I've
heard that they're they're not and they're being like, did you?
Yeah, that was like a thing. Did you ever do something like
that, Kev? Kev.
No, but I've ever I've done. Anything like that?
I've done really dumb shit. I never got caught with a gun,

(36:10):
but I grew up with guns. But I lived in a place
surrounded by woods. I mean.
No, I never. I did get caught.
I got in trouble in school with a collection of knives that I
was letting people play with. Not Yeah, I never that shit.
That we. All did.
Yeah, we all had. The butterfly knife or we all
like, drove fast and we all like.
Actually, you know what? Like, yeah, you know.

(36:30):
Like this is. Never got in trouble that I'm.
Ready. I'm actually going to give Brag
guy over there huge props because Braga is one of the few
people in the world who acknowledged that they had a
hard path going through rough things and readjusted themselves
and did some things that changedtheir life.
Sure. Go bra guy.
Man. What?
That's why Brian knows how to work on helicopters.

(36:51):
And I don't. You're awesome.
You're good. Yeah, you're.
Cool man. No.
Good. Good.
Good man Brian Paleckia. Just.
Wrap it up you're. Awesome producer of the year.
Producer of the. Year.
Well, you know, most, most adolescent kids do crazy shit.
You know for sure for. Sure, yeah.
But that's, that's such, I mean,yeah, you're right.
But that that's. Kev I can remember like my

(37:15):
daughter now, who is like 16. I lived in a walnut.
St. No, I mean for him, but yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah, no, I mean for him and.
For me, it's not for me. Yeah, no, I mean you, yeah,
whatever. But yeah.
So how does that make you feel? Like mad and, and upset and
like, I've given him like 75 speeches and I feel like I've

(37:36):
done everything I can and, and this kid just keeps like going
that path and yeah. And like, what, what the fuck
can I do? I can only hope that like, he's
going to learn. Like is like, unfortunately this
is like a horrible lesson to learn.
But you know, like, I mean, how much, how much are you going to
do? Like what level are we going to
reach before we stop? Yeah, there's literally only so

(37:57):
much. Look, we all, we, we all got in
trouble and people try to give us advice growing up.
And I usually never took it until I screwed up.
And you screw up enough that you're like, OK, something's got
to change. Like, and that's what you do.
You guys are dealing with right now and there's nothing you can
do. He's not going to listen to you.

(38:19):
So it's like, give him the advice and say, look, I know
you're not going to take this advice, so I'm just going to
tell you what you should be doing.
If you're going to go and do your own thing, you'll have to
learn the hard way. And you know, hard way sucks.
Dude, it does. It sucks.
But you know what it all? It also breeds some of the most
successful people, right? Right.

(38:41):
Yeah, that's why, Well, that's why we go that way.
I will say all the dudes that I'm looking at right now have
all in some way of their own hadthat hard way.
Oh. Fuck yeah.
Oh yeah. Oh fuck yeah.
Too many times, dude. Yeah, unfortunately.
Next person. Yeah, next, fear with fear.
We're talking fear here. Being.

(39:05):
Straight. No.
Yeah. He's done.
He's like. Being swallowed whole and
digested alive. That would suck.
By what? Yeah, that's exactly what I
like. Like what?
Like? Turned into and turned into
poop. What's that huge thing?
What's? That by what?
Something big enough? What's the biggest like?

(39:27):
Yeah, what's the biggest crack in that could swallow you?
Like there. Isn't there's a whale like a
whale dinosaur? Like what are we talking?
About that would be. Dual.
I mean, a whale is an. Anaconda dude, a Python or an
Anaconda that? One that one.
Dude, if you ever get back. I'm with you.
You ever see that? When when they?
When they. Turn into Python when.
They eat a human and it's the body so big and it blows the

(39:51):
snake. Yeah, dude, God called her Eve,
but it breaks it down. It'll break it down like no
matter what, like what? Looks like a cat's hairball or
something with. The Anaconda in the mix, I'm
definitely down with that. That's like it's up there.
That's a good analyst. We're all stealing each other's
fears. There was there was a YouTube

(40:12):
video of a fucking snake eating like a huge alligator the other
day in the Amazon and the snake was definitely like 50 feet long
and you were like what the fuck?Yeah, man.
Yeah. What the fucking dagger by shit
is going on in this fucking? Place.
Turtle people, man, you know? Nick.

(40:32):
I don't know. I really, I really don't fucking
know what is the one thing that bothers.
You. Getting pooped on I think.
It would probably be like getting like, not necessarily
sucked into an escalator, but like eaten, eaten by some kind
of fine scenery, you know, like like a.
Wood. Chipper like just in the Gears
of the apparatus, you know? The dumbass, The dumbass who

(40:55):
doesn't listen to the people at the airport or on the aircraft
carrier who's like, hey, idiot, stop getting so close.
Yeah. And like, you get the guy with
the cones and you're like, hey, idiot, stop getting so close.
And then you watch like Tom. Hey downstairs.
Stop getting so close to the mic.
He gets excited. Yeah, I can turn him down and
the other mics can still fuckinghear him and.

(41:18):
They and they. I will SIM it down Sir.
Eric's about to get sucked into the mic.
He's like if. I ever.
Just like. I would like to not be next to
him. Nikki just remind me of all
rats. The kids are back on the
escalator. The escalator is to be feared
and respected. Yeah, absolutely.

(41:38):
Right. What's your fear?
Because we didn't actually feel it.
Being swallowed alive hole and digested and turned into poop.
Joe, what about you? I think being alone for too
long, you're such. A fag so.
That's fucking done. Achieved.
Hey, hey, you ever work alone for like months at a time?

(42:01):
It's fucking terrible. That's just sweet though you,
yes. Hey, I like my alone time.
Yeah, yeah. But when you're you're alone for
too long, yeah, yeah, you go fucking bananas.
Bananas. Yeah, that's true.
Man, Have you ever watched that show?
Just a very honest. Tell you that show long.
So everyone's always like that bitch that tab down like after
two months, 'cause he was alone and he's all crying.

(42:22):
Yeah, yeah. But people.
That's real. That's helpless.
That's like true helpless if. You can survive for two months
on your own in the wilderness. Like, you're a tough
motherfucker. Yeah.
And people saying, oh, you fucking just crying.
It's like dude. Fuck that.
Have you ever been out in the woods for 8 hours alone?
Lost. Yes.
It's fucking terrifying shit. Terrifying.
I've been in like East Bridgewater.

(42:43):
I wouldn't be dying, but anyone who is.
And you got to worry about the Bridgewater Triangle.
I mean, you're like, you don't know.
Animals like I was charged by a by a deer, like 3 or 4 deer in
the middle of the night. Yeah, 1.
Time by yourself. Yeah, and it was horrifying.
What it so I was went out to thewoods.
I was I had a hunting stand out in like East Bridgewater.

(43:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was going to get, I had a
trail Cam out. There talking bow hunting, Yeah,
yeah. Are you bow hunting?
Yeah, you're hunting bows. Yeah, you're hunting bows.
Deer, Turkey, bow, yes. That's.
Called. Deer hunting, right?
Turkey hunting, too. Yeah dude, I miss cool.
I used to do that with my dad when I was like tried when.
I when I hunting in. General and like bow hunting and

(43:26):
that it's hard. Is.
Like it's a. Whole fucking.
Thing. Oh yeah, it's a.
Whole Science. My biggest fear, actually.
There you go. That's a.
Fucking that is a really going. Out there to hang my tree stand
at like 3:00 in the morning in the dark, hearing the coyotes
howl that. Shit.
I'm like, holy. Shit dude, so what's what do you
mean? Being in the wood.
Imagine doing it like wampa dog stuff.
Hold on, you ever hear a Fisher Cat?

(43:48):
Yeah, Fisher Cat out there. Fisher Cat?
Yeah, they sound like fucking babies.
Like. I was out in a tree stand.
Luckily I just. Fish your cats a bit.
Before I went out there, before I went out there, luckily I took
a shit because if not, I would have shit myself.
It sounded, dude, it sounded like a woman was being murdered
while she was running like and raped at the same time.

(44:08):
I was like, dude, it was, and I had no idea what it was.
I never heard of Fisher Cat before.
And this fucking thing was dude,the scariest thing ever.
Dude, I was like. What the fuck?
When? Did you find terms?
Up next question. Later that day I looked up and I
said, what is this dude? And someone said, oh, it was a
Fisher cat. I was like, OK, fuck you, Yeah.

(44:30):
Look up YouTube videos of the fucking scream.
And you. Oh yeah, it's horrifying.
Yeah, next. Question.
Sorry, I'm talking to Kevin about something.
Yeah. Same.
Question. Next question you were hunting.
Yeah, well, I wasn't hunting. It was like about to be dark.
It was dark. Yeah.
Yeah, I got you. It was dark.
I shouldn't have, right? What?
Gorilla finger. Gorilla.

(44:53):
That is a blunt you're referringto.
That is a joint. I thought a gorilla finger was a
joint A. Fat joint is a gorilla finger.
It's pretty fat bro. If the joint looks like a pinky,
it's a gorilla. Finger so yeah so it was dark,
but I was like oh I want to go Ihave a trail Cam out there.

(45:14):
I wanted to grab the SD card, swap the SD card so I could see
if I had any deer the shit I think it was like right before
deer season or something whatever.
So I didn't have a bow or anything.
And right where my trail camera was, deer, we're betting.
And I didn't see them, didn't hear them.
They were like sleeping right under my fucking camera, dude.

(45:35):
So I walked out there and I musthave either stepped on one or
just missed one because it fucking jumped up right in front
of me. Yeah, yeah, huge, huge.
Cleared my fucking head like andI, I fell back and I seen like 3
jump up in the air. So I was like oh shit, I fell
back. I fell back and I got up and it

(45:58):
it dude, it ran down like 100 yards and came flying back at me
dude. And I was like, whoa, like I
jumped out of the way and like jumped up against a tree and
this thing fucking circled me for like 10 minutes.
Oh my God, you just kept like going around.
With No, I just was up against atree, like, and it was getting

(46:20):
closer and closer to me, dude. And I was like, fuck, the only
thing I could see was the white butt, like when he jumped up in
front of me. You know what I mean?
Like, but I this thing was flying.
I'm like, dude, if this thing impales me like with a antler,
I'm going to die out here, dude.Because I was way out in the
woods, at least a mile. Yeah.
And eventually it just stopped. And I was like.

(46:43):
Well, that's the other thing people don't.
Really. I started walking away.
I was like, I'm not grabbing this fucking camera right now.
Fuck. This you.
Know full monkeying dude I'm rocking.
This shit dude that was. That's what you're finding it.
OK this thing got close to me dude.
Like I'm talking like random rifle.
Rock in its head as fast as you can.
Fucking doing it dude. It would run on the yards, come
back. Dude, that's not that's an

(47:04):
experience not many people have.No.
Yeah, I don't ever want to. Fucking scary because that was.
So scary. I was like, oh, I'm a little
bitch. Like I'm a little bitch.
Like I thought like going out there, I could go out to the
doc, dude. Fuck it, this thing almost.
Killed me, so fucking scary. Yeah, man.
Next question. Yeah, so I guess getting impaled

(47:26):
by a fucking dareon. It's a good one.
Is worse than being alone I guess.
Could we get some good answers? Out of this one, all right,
What's your favorite album released locally?
This is like the same question type 3.
This is version 3 of this question.
The first one I asked was what'syour favorite album?

(47:48):
I said. What's your favorite record
released locally? Anything.
EP What's? Demo.
How? Local.
How local? I mean Massachusetts.
OK, pretty big. I'm going to say the benefits of
Thinking Out Loud by Smack and Isaiah that out.
They're now A Wilhelm Scream they used to be smacking.
Is okay. Yeah, same band.
They. Changed so that was a while ago.

(48:09):
When Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a rough recording and
everything, but that album is fucking amazing.
Yeah, It's a cross between. Like I remember seeing.
Strung out Iron Maiden and like.Something on Flyers like back in
the day? Yeah, forever ago.
Yeah, all right. Who else?
I'm going to say not. I'm going to say 9 Lives by

(48:31):
Aerosmith. I was going to say, there's no
shortage of answers here. Man, there's so much good music
in this fucking. Oh dude, honestly.
Even in our only immediate townslike.
Yeah. There's a There's a couple that
are like. Yeah, mine I could probably tie
first. With a 7 day curse, that's what.
I was going to say, but I. That's legit.

(48:53):
That's legit. You would not be alone in saying
that. Either the color blood.
I was going to say that actuallythat was like the only thing I
could really. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The color blood. Yeah, 7 day curse and dude,
it's. Not that easy answering these
questions. That's a part of the reason why
it took so long too, because youwant to give like a real answer.
Yeah, of. Course you know.
On Earth wouldn't even exist. Killswitch Engage wouldn't even

(49:15):
exist. Yeah, they're.
Yeah, if it wasn't for Dan and and fucking Oh my God, Lindolfi
Scott and like Scott Churchill like.
No Lane Dolphy. Was I'm I'm, I'm sorry, Lane
Dolphy was a. Terminal suffer.
Yeah, yeah. Sorry.
But kind of amazing. Scott Churchill.
And Dan, yeah. I just think because I think
Lane Dolphy might have filled inon base for them the last time I

(49:37):
seen them. Probably that's why I'm
thinking. That for me, it's just that show
that like Holbrook show, like it's like, it's not even about.
Yeah, I remember that. I remember.
Yeah, it's not. But it's not even about like the
album itself and the album's sick, but like the fact that
like we were all there and like everyone I know for the most
part, sorry, Kev was there and it's videotaped and like it was

(49:58):
the coolest fucking show. And we were all jumping around
and it just sounded so good. I mean, and it may have sounded
better in my head than it was, but like just because I was
there and I got to experience and it was so cool and just that
era. And like we like the even the
people that I rode with, like I ended up riding there with Eric,
which I. Mean were you there, Kev, at
that show? No, I wasn't.

(50:19):
So everyone in this room, I remember it though, everyone in
this room except for you was there at that.
Show Nicky you with. That now I know Brian was there.
Brian. Was there?
He sure was. Wow.
Dude, converge another. There's a lot of fucking.
Local the autumn. I mean and mainstream.
Hold on, hold on. Can we actually, actually, can
we get some, some? Can we can we turn off some of

(50:40):
that autumn out of show? Just just to back your point up,
to drive your point home further, there are there are
some high caliber metal bands that wouldn't be, they wouldn't
sound the way they sound. Without.
Yeah, yeah, for. Sure.
Like Dan and Churchill, like created a whole.
They created like metal core like Scott Churchill or

(51:02):
whatever, whoever it is. Yeah, whatever, Dan.
Like those two dudes, right? Is that right, Scott Churchill,
is that his name? Right.
I don't know. Dude, fucking for sure.
Super influential, yeah. I'm old.
I'm I can't I think Scott Churchill.
I could be wrong. I don't think Dan Dan will
probably like Dan would like definitely like.
Get mad at me. He's so mad at you he'll like.
Tackle. Me.
It'll come to me. I can't remember.

(51:23):
Oh, let's look it up. Let's look it up, dude.
I'm getting all the members wrong.
Well, he's straight edge. Why not?
He gets it. He's like, all right.
I don't know. I mean those dudes.
There's some fucking good. Answers Watching those dudes
tear it up though, that was likesomething else I I've never
seen. I remember seeing a show, I
think it was like maybe them an irate or something like that.
In Bridgewater, yeah. Right.

(51:44):
Yeah, and I was. That was the first metal show or
hardcore show I ever went to. Dude, right?
Yeah. Irate blown away irate set is
they play with the red chord. Too, didn't they?
They play with the red chord back then, I thought.
When like that show. Late 90s?
No, no, not that. Just irate going into gone.
The Red Cord wasn't a band yet they.

(52:05):
Were early 2000. They didn't.
Play together? No, because they were Incision
or whatever the hell they were. Oh, Incision, Yeah.
Red cord wasn't a. Band until like.
The 10 Bury your dead is yeah. Like 2000, I think.
Yeah. But they were, they were a band.
They were they. Chris and then played a show
together. Probably.
Right. Yeah, the one that we booked.

(52:26):
Was it? Yeah.
OK, yeah, Red Chord played that show.
Yeah. Yeah, Red Chord on Earth.
And I need, yeah. It was a.
Banger. I remember it.
Wasn't there. Once again, wasn't there.
But I knew about that show because everybody went except
me. You missed the greatest thing in

(52:46):
the world character. I'm sure I did.
Sorry for you lost some crazy. I miss a lot of great.
Shit, he would have. Seen a lot, I've seen a lot of
well. I saw at the Knights of Columbus
on Pembroke I saw Lame, a God, play as Burn the Priest.
Burn the Priest played there. So they really, they recorded
their first album here, I think with, I think Adam D might have

(53:08):
been the guy who recorded it. But like, Burn the Priest, like
before they changed the name to Lamb of God.
Yeah, before the record. Yeah, I didn't know they.
Probably change your name. And they made them like, well,
blame of God or whatever they were called.
Burn the priest. And I seen them at a show with
the the yeah, when you go down, you take the left on the 139
right there. That Knights of Columbus right

(53:28):
there. Yeah, yeah, it was right in
there. I seen them with a band called
TSW and like Jamies, Jamies played that show.
Where's the rest of Lamb? Of God from.
How many of those dudes are local Lamb of God?
Oh, none of them. They were here to record.
Yeah. Oh, because Adam D knows.
Which is from. Mass.

(53:49):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, OK, OK.
That's. Wild.
And I bought the CD like I stillhave the CDI bought from them
like the barn, the priest CD andthen they turn into lame of God
like a year and a half later the.
Fucking amazing. And then they kill like ashes of
the lake and shit like that, andyou're like, oh, Philadelphia,
OK. Dude, they were, they were
amazing. I mean they still are something.

(54:11):
I mean, some shit becomes redundant after a while.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's an opinion. Yeah.
For. Sure.
Wait a wait. OK, this is this.
Is I can't wait for you local. Albums who didn't?
Answer. Who else?
Who local albums through the bandage seats a whisper Lost at
sea by In dire need I could makeI could make an argument for
some of us may never see the world by.

(54:33):
All my answers are his answers. But I mean, above that dude,
there's like dude fused togetherin revolving.
Tours. I know I was thinking that I was
thinking. That.
How about how about Nikolai overhere?
I was thinking of you Brian too.I thought that might be an
answer you gave. What right?
Fucking yeah. Listen, Aerosmith is legendary.

(54:56):
Yeah, of course they. Are I'm just fucking with you,
but. Boston, they actually.
What? About They are legendary.
Though what about fucking Boston?
Dude, I. Never heard of them.
The cars, the. Cars.
The cars, yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Next question.
Gangrene. OK.
So was that everybody? What question are we on?

(55:16):
Hold on, I'm. The Buddy of Boston.
Joe, did you give your answer? No.
I didn't think so. We must wait for Joe.
I'm directing you back to your notebook.
Joe is gonna hit us with a good one.
He's Googling. I had sorry, I'm like the 2025
draft I had. He's gonna say.
I had blood taken for like a test earlier and I'm like all

(55:37):
fucked up like, so if I pass out, I apologize guys, yeah.
Right on. Is your Dick gonna fall off?
The first, hopefully the 1st. I'm gonna say the first death
before us on our album. I think it's not no web, no no
web on, it's a new one. But what would they like?
Yeah, what was that song? Called true till death.
Everything right? Virus.
Sickness I. Mean that's a great album.

(55:59):
What's that? What's?
That song, that's the first I. Can't remember the fucking
first. Don't.
Know. Yeah, I can.
True to true, till death is amazing.
I think it's true. Till death, yeah.
Yeah. I can't remember drawing a blank
right now. I mean, those are all amazing
answers though. Like every one of those bands
that we could, probably. I'll look it up.

(56:20):
I'll find it. We.
Can name 100 more. At least.
Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
I, I like really was only into local music growing up.
Like I I really the only bigger act that I liked at all was Mud
Van. That's my bad, Joe.
Dude I think I like Nobody Laughs Anymore by The Trouble
which has come up on this show many times, but what a fucking.
Amazing. You talk about after, after

(56:41):
Khart Lien, right? No, before that.
Before that, OK. Friends, family forever till.
Yeah, that's later. I.
Think it's true till. I think it is, yeah.
That wouldn't make sense. That's always let me check my
phone. Shouldn't know that.
It gives you for. The record, I can't remember.
Shit, Yeah. There's tons.

(57:01):
Of I'm lucky if I remember shit.It's great that sometimes the
the phone reminds me of shit I did that I didn't know I did.
The first Dark Buster album, that's.
Why we're dumb though? We're dumb and don't remember.
Shit. Oh, that's a part of it, no.
Because I still remember all my best friends phone numbers.
I even know your phone number. Oh, do you?
It's real hard to remember. What's next question?
Next question. I've tried.

(57:21):
I've like literally tried. No, you, you definitely did.
You definitely did. All right, thoughts on current
music trends? Oh.
Fucking vomit gent sucks. What is?
With like code orange shit in like that shit.
They're done. They're done.
All that good stuff. The The girl reba's playing for

(57:43):
Marilyn Manson now. So am I going to see her at the
show? Probably, yeah.
She's like touring with. Them so I think she's sick.
I'm. Torn on it?
Yeah, she's a sick. She's a sick guitarist.
Yeah, the shit around her like with the.
Code Orange first couple of albums was sick and then they
started going like 9 inch nails.No, no.
No, that's. Not.
Don't compare. There's a.

(58:03):
Lot of they're trying, they're trying to go weird like that,
but that's like electronica stuff.
Like what I'm saying 9 Inch Nails is on their own like.
We have this weird mix of like metal and then like, not metal.
Like they're trying to like fuseit together and it's just
fucking. Lame Fans are just trying to
well, they got to try something like new Yeah, which?
Is. Really.

(58:23):
You just got to have an originaltrain of thought.
There's no, there's pretty much no genre music you can blend
right now that hasn't been blended great.
That's where it comes down to the music.
The songwriter, though. That's good.
You know what's? Good.
There's a lot of good underground rappers around here
now. Well, there has been.
Actually, the underground rap scene around here has been.
Great. Forever, Yeah.
That's because everyone. Everyone has a microphone, so

(58:44):
everyone's practicing. I mean genre to genre, I'd say
every there's, there's a band, there's a really good band doing
it. I, I, I thought I hated
different genres when I was a kid, but now I, I just, I love
all genres. It just depends on the song.
I can't say I hate a genre. Yeah, there's, I feel like
there's good music still out there, but I just, I feel like
in the metal world, like. Well, the mainstream metal world

(59:07):
is like, yeah, yeah, it kind of is.
That's what. I'm.
Doing I think Knocked Loose was the last really cool band and a
lot of people hate them. I think they're fucking great,
but they're earlier shit more so, but actually now they knew
Elton's awesome too. They get a lot of hate, but they
get a lot of love. They blew.
Up they never really. Can't get a lot of love without
a lot of hate. See exactly.

(59:28):
And I can see why they exploded if if anybody can't see why they
exploded out and can't you love or hate them?
Like if you can't see that if. You've seen a lot of.
I think they definitely put on ashow like they're, they like,
yeah, they you feel it. But like music, music is so
speculative and the crowds are so different, like.
Mac Miller was another great. And how different types of
genres of music are perceived todifferent fans.

(59:51):
You know, before before Knock Loose recorded with Will Putney,
they were nothing dude. And the whole band will say that
the the producer like changed their fucking world.
That's what it and a producer can do that.
We should make them. They can also ruin your world
too. But I know a director.
I'm actually like really good friends with the director.

(01:00:12):
That's a that's an interesting question, Joe.
That really is an interesting. One we should do like a cell.
What your current thoughts are on the modern?
Music. Yeah, that's.
A Yeah, that's the. Cell We.
Could do. Episode half an hour I.
Know, you could do like a whole like background, like the 80s
with like the bands that like Dylan just and Brockton, like
Wargasm and like all those otherbands that that eventually like

(01:00:35):
that did the thrash and then it turned into like the Brockton
hardcore scene that was like blood for blood and all that
shit. That's like, you do like a crazy
documentary, right? Yeah.
Like the Southern Southern Massachusetts metal, hardcore
punk scene, you know? Yeah.
Like, we went from, like, gangrene in Boston.
Yeah, we ended up with the wholelike thrash, thrash, early death

(01:00:59):
metal scene in Brockton, like with Dillinger.
But that's a good question. Like right now, does anyone
actually know of any kids? Like anyone.
On like. 30 that are like right now in the metal scene in the
South. Shore, dude, we've been, oh, I
don't know about the South Shore.
Yeah, I think ever changer is exploding.
Yeah, ever changer. Well, when we were younger.
Yeah. So like that to me is.

(01:01:23):
That's a yeah. Like we had, we had bands upon,
bands upon. Bands, yeah, for sure.
We had hardcore we. Had metal.
And they all kind of headed the scene that blew up.
Yeah. Like, even the hardcore scene.
Yeah. And not just.
Here I feel like everywhere likeConnecticut and new.
York. Like yeah, no.
One had their own scene, absolutely.
And like now I feel like that scene is like dead.

(01:01:44):
Yeah, so, well, like what the last big metal scene, it was
like a little after Myspace hour, right, 'cause that like
exploded too during that. That had its own Myspace hour.
So everybody's rotten little troll man.
Who the fuck is it? What?
I don't have a rotten little troll man, do I?
Wants to revive the world here for everybody.
Oh. My God, what are you bringing

(01:02:05):
up? Right now, what is happening?
What's doing? Let's revive.
Are you talking about my favorite drummer?
Everybody's favorite little no who the guy from the scene that
every the most one of the most infamous dudes from the scene
that makes everyone recoil. Oh, Brophy.
Oh, that's a good. Question.

(01:02:26):
Bro. That would be on the list.
No, he's talking about Nick Matthews.
No, I'm talking about Brophy. No, he's he's talking about Nick
Matthews. So Brophy's trying to love.
You Nick Brophy's trying to and.He's trying to bring back the
shows and do some positive things.
And I know everyone. There are people.
I know, I know everyone shits onhim, but honestly everyone who

(01:02:46):
says things about him I know have done fireworks things then
he has done. So they're like, yeah, fuck this
guy. And I'm like.
Were you like the? Pot called the chicken like the.
Pot and I haven't. What did you smoke?
He's drinking a salt a lot of weeks.
Oh no, he's actually drinking alcohol.
Sorry, corrected. He smoked that pot called the

(01:03:08):
chicken shit dude. It's my own.
It's my own home girl man, he's.So.
The. Incredible Hulk it is.
He comes. Out to smoke it and I'm like
dude like you want meth like what do you want he's like no, I
just smoked a joint and I'm likeyou're fucking.
Fruiting. I don't know.
In it's in it's vegetative state, it's supposed to be like
52% THC. So it's pretty high for just

(01:03:31):
like a player. Sounds fun.
Yeah, Webster Core. Webster Core.
Hey, So what? What's the number?
What, what? What number are we on?
Next 25I. Don't even think we're.
On 25. No, Are we #25 We should start
skipping numbers. 35 Are we goodwith the the current?
Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure there's more of

(01:03:52):
those we can name. Shout out the One Rumble viewer.
All right. We love you.
What's his name? Who is it?
Let's dock some. It doesn't.
Let's Dock's the only person fucking watching you go.
Type your address. And go credit card.
All right, 25, Yeah. Who have you guys been in the
studio with for producers? I know Kev, you spend most your

(01:04:16):
time with Joe. Yeah, I've worked with some
other. Ones, yeah.
Who else have you worked with? I worked I well, do you mean in
person or they produced on the music you put out?
Cool. Steve Albini worked on one of
the projects I played bass for. OK, if you don't know who, Steve
Albini. Is sounds familiar?
That's OK. I wasn't talking to you.
It's OK if you don't. Yeah.

(01:04:38):
The rest of the waking world, ifyou don't know who they are, you
suck. You don't know who Steve Albini
is. Except for Joe, you got nobody.
Nobody knows Steve Albinius. RIPI said.
RIP. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who is the dude that used to play guitar in riff cannon?
Who? That's Chris Johnson.

(01:05:00):
No, the other AJ. Yeah, yeah, he.
He's a fucking talented producer.
Man, yeah, he did a the second methods demo, Yeah.
And it it fucking, it was real good.
Is that with like gay getting onit or?
Is that the first one? That was the first one.
That was the mic here. Where's the second one?
Where people can I hear that? Can I have it?

(01:05:23):
I, I actually that this is awesome, man.
I didn't think anybody had it. And I, I believe I found it.
Oh God, where did I? Where did I find it?
Did you record on that in? In your prison wallet.
I was in the band at the time. I I honestly don't know.
That's your butt hole. To say I honestly don't know,

(01:05:45):
it's never good. Well, so anybody?
Else I'm sure I've. Got Yeah, I worked with Joe
Merrick a lot, obviously. Like, yeah.
No, I mean, and you seem to do pretty good with him, you know.
I mean we. Produced.
Not really. We don't really.
Not really. Not to any fault of Joe's.
Like, you're more likely to get like, your music and like a

(01:06:06):
horror movie than mine, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Well I also I know people that work in movies so I can hand it
to them. Me too, but like I mean I knew
fish fish fish is like my. What do you?
Yeah, you know directors, you know, plenty of.
Directors. I know a horror movie director,
Fisher. See, there you go.
I'm trying to get yeah, yeah. Yeah, one on the podcast.
I would love one of our songs ina fucking horror movie.

(01:06:27):
That would be cool. Yeah, and I played death metal.
He probably he might be actually.
I was thinking of asking him to do one of our music videos but
Dan is all. Like he likes metal and.
Shit though, Dan Dan, so I hate so Branch Davidian.
I hate to say this is like a counterfeit band because they're
like Black Sabbath, right? So Black Sabbath, everybody

(01:06:48):
thinks, is like this, like. Evil.
Evil like satanistic band, but they're really like for the Tony
Tony Iommi looks cheating. He says like, well, I like.
We're a cross. I want my they.
Have like crosses all of my guitar like if like if I hated
Jesus in like religion why wouldthey have like all these like
broke just. Sinks deeper and.

(01:07:09):
Deeper and no, just like Dan is very religious and for Ancient
Media is a very religious band. I think with the name like are
you guys? Christian metal.
I don't, I mean. I mean, sometimes I feel like it
rides on that. It could, but I also think,
like, religion's an interesting thing to write.
Like metal dude knock loose to bring them up again.

(01:07:30):
Yeah, they do a great job with that.
Like, because they're not. He's not like a hardcore
Christian, but he grew up Christian.
But he's kind of separated from it.
And right there, that's the things to write about, like the
separation from like, you know, I feel like I feel like a lot of
metal bands. It's like when we write songs,
we don't approach him in that manner at all.
Yeah, fucking for sure, Nick. But Dan Dan sings whatever he

(01:07:51):
sings over it, and that usually does have, you know, religious
overtones. Yeah.
And. Yeah, or whatever, like crazy
shit. Damn.
He sees the metal in Christianity.
He's like. The blood of the Christ.
That's what I'm saying is like, that's where he's like kind of
like we have Black Sabbath is like.
People who realize, yeah. Yeah, Black Sabbath actually

(01:08:11):
sings with like. The Ozzy was like a Christian.
It's like the trepidations of the devil, you know, like it's
like when you, when you sleep with the devil, these horrible
things happen to you. And that's what that songs are
about, you know, they're not necessarily about like praising
the devil. It's about like the effects of
what happens when you lie with the devil.
Sure. Ariana Grande sings about the

(01:08:32):
same goddamn thing. No, I mean.
I feel like that's actually very, yeah.
But you think about all these people in the world who look at
Ozzy and like Black Sabbath and they immediately like Satanic.
You're just searching. You're.
Just like like they listening tovenom like very Santana and
Slayer and like be like but evenSlayer, just like Black Sabbath,

(01:08:56):
same fucking model. Tom Mariah is the son of a
fucking preacher. Like like like.
That's not that's not the same model.
Yes, it is, because if you talk to Thomas Ryan.
I was like. I'm a Catholic.
Bible, Tom. Of Tom.
Ryan none of it's lies could affect me, Tom.
Ryan, who I'm slaying, who's like, you know, like, you know,

(01:09:16):
Angel of death, creeper of the dead.
You know, when you actually talkto him, he's like, yeah, my, my
father is like ordained ministerand, and I'm a, I'm a Catholic.
Yeah, he's what I'm saying like,but everyone thinks of like
Nancy Reagan. She's like these say this the
turn in the world if you're need.

(01:09:37):
Ever gore? They're trying to kill your
babies. They want to eat them.
Like you could like, South Park narrate this shit like insanity,
you know, like, Oh my. God, you're not wrong.
You know, right, That's true. Nancy Reagan.
In reality. CNN South Park Nancy Reagan
getting screamed at by Dee Schneider.
That would be awesome. But you know, but in real you

(01:09:58):
have like I'm thinking about like what happens when you,
like, take drugs and sell your soul to the devil and like you
let yourself. Go well, here's the thing, Eric,
the the people at the top of thepyramid there over at the music
industry that are definitely baby.
On the back here this is this iswhen you should put on like
Spinal Tap the bass line, all right.

(01:10:20):
Wait a minute, So who hasn't answered this question?
What question? I think you were.
On the lead base. I think you.
Were the producers? Yeah.
Producers, sorry, I'm no one. Question 27.
Producers what? Have you worked with?
Yeah, worked with Yeah fucking 2.
All two of them. I mean yourself and who else?

(01:10:41):
No, that'd be Joe Clapp and Jim Eric.
Dude, great producers. Joe Clapp has worked on amazing
shit. Too, Yeah.
Yeah, Fred Danner. I have to mention Fred Danner.
You worked with Fred. You worked with Fred.
I got three. Another one who did like epic
shit. I got passed away.
I missed that guy. Shout out Fred Danner.
He owned our Cortland studios. Yeah, Yeah.

(01:11:02):
And Joe used to rent that out from him.
Yeah. Yeah, Fred is.
He was amazing. Rob Barrett recorded us on a
four track once. Yeah, shout out Rob.
Barrett No, Don't shut that out.Why not?
Who's us? I'm.
Just kidding. When you say us, who's us, huh,
Svi? Think SV Yeah OK, did like a

(01:11:23):
demo a. Social victim.
Luke did the Rohis album I was on.
Dude, Luke can do whatever he wants man.
Like he is a talented motherfucker.
Yeah, he back in the day that hewill roam over with the he
actually. Did produce a record.
He did. He did.
I think I watched him do breeding ground I think.
That's what he did. Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes.
Sense a couple of those dudes, but they and they went from

(01:11:44):
breeding ground they ended up. Die cast, Die cast.
Yeah, the singer. Yeah.
Yeah, that's when I stopped listening.
To him, but that's OK, I. Think we did though.
He does have a good voice if I'mbeing.
Tagged. But I do remember going up into
the original because I know Chris obviously like Dugan.
Yeah, he was like Luke's at thattime.
Him and Luke were like, right? That's like the guy right on the
studio was Chris. Yeah, yeah.

(01:12:05):
And I remember going up there and he had like I.
Think, I think it was he got. Me breeding, breeding ground.
I'm pretty sure what it was. Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah. Luke was recording breeding
ground and they have these like skill saws without blades like
like this and the fucking speakers and shit like that's a
fucking trip. That is a trip.

(01:12:25):
Speaking of breeding ground, we might put the recording of
Shadow of Your Enemies Aggression with Charlie on it on
the vinyl. We're in the talks of it.
I I want to I think it's a better recorder than the demo,
but it's different but. Who's fucking?

(01:12:48):
Doubling into an announcement like that?
Yeah, I've heard people who listen.
Some random. What are you talking about?
Some random kid. Where's where's, where's that
kid from? Left chestland or whatever, I
don't know. Some He's just some young kid I
don't know who have no. Idea you might be.
Playing that with the dude. From No, but he showed up on
Facebook, right? And he's just like, I love the
automata so much and all this shit.
Yeah, you know, all of us just kind of saw it.

(01:13:10):
Dude, that's gonna be a packed show.
Like if you guys play a show. I don't.
Know if we're gonna play or not,but.
If you do, it'll be. Packed.
Tell us. And do it what?
Yeah, tell us what we tell you what?
What went down? Yeah.
What do you mean what went down?Didn't you guys?
I mean, Magic Gran. Yeah, we're work.
We're working on a new song. Yeah, 2 new songs.

(01:13:32):
From what I heard, a new song actually.
Put on a record, right? You didn't.
You guys were like release vinyl.
Or relastering automatic. Wait, no, no, we're we're.
Not listening here, Yeah. Where am I?
I don't know. There's 10 million different
ways. No, we're doing, we're doing a
new song. They're remastered.
You guys are doing a new album? 8 songs, yeah.
Hey Joe 8 songs. I still had eight songs in

(01:13:54):
total. Joe, I still have the CD you
gave me in Mr. Mariani's math class.
Do you need that? I don't think so.
Are you sure? Yeah, I don't think.
So OK, I might say if. You if you need that for like
actual like research thing save it.
If packing, I will give it to you.
We might need it for the vinyl artwork.

(01:14:15):
What's the next? Question or just like remember
what the songs actually sound like.
I'm going to. Sneak in and say next question.
All right, what? What was your first live?
Don't hold the notebook in frontof the mic.
What was your first live performance like?
Can. I answer this, I have only one.
Wait, wait. Playing or going to?
Playing OK. 7th grade talent show middle school Kitty

(01:14:41):
Brackish cover. Nice, did you sing?
That's a riot. That's a riot.
How'd it go? Pretty good.
Nice. Yeah, I can say right here as as
as Joe is witness me and Brian'sfirst show.
Yeah, this is my answer too. Was the Whitman Whitman Middle

(01:15:03):
School talent show. We played corn blind with Pat
McKean. That's awesome.
And can't remember if I was there.
Now Pat Harrington played bass for us.
Nice, that might have came up onthe show.
Before we might have talked. About.
Yeah, that's awesome. But that was what we call that
tantrum. I remember that name then maybe

(01:15:24):
you guys. Kicked John Lennon was supposed
to be a thing of it, as usual. And there was that echo box and
it wasn't grounded and every time I touched it I would get
shocked. And that's the first time I
found out about Like Current. Dude with that PV update, with
that PV rage 158 zone in the world.
Torrents that's. Another real man can't even play

(01:15:48):
in key. But we owned it.
Dude. My my sister had a video footage
of that forever. I don't know where it exists
anymore. Still got it.
Yeah, no. Joe, what about you?
Dude. I wonder about the year after,
probably. The.
Women Middle. School talent we have.
Pictures we have. Pictures.
No. I never played a talent show.
I wasn't even playing music backthen.
Really. No, no.

(01:16:10):
Joe's memory Joe became cool a little late.
Yeah, it'll be the coolest. Memory of everybody.
Where I was there, we played theEast Bridgewater High School.
I think it was a talent show. Yep.
It was a see, it was a fucking talent.
Show by the Oh, it wasn't. It was a lock in.
And we had said it wasn't. Well, we were in high school.
You know what, though? We were in high school.
I don't even know. Was it even talent show?

(01:16:31):
No, it wasn't talent show. It was a, it was a lock in.
So what was? It you guys played the lock in
what band? And we fucking laughed.
It was me, Kench, Bobby Candelopoulos and Matt.
That's fucking. Awesome.
Yeah, shit. You know what though?
Like like filling some. That was my first band did it?
Did it. I'm a life and I'll never let
this go. What?
Like this thing that we do, likehere we are like 40 something

(01:16:53):
years old, but that's like this thing we still do, you know,
like, especially like, yeah, just feel like you're still
still out there. It's therapy.
And I don't care from I don't care where I am, yeah, or who's
in front of me, yeah, or what I'm doing.
It's just like the thing that I wanna do.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
You know, yeah, Nick, a combination of like having that

(01:17:15):
like. For a show, yeah dude I like
barely push my band which is fucking stupid on my part.
We don't even. Do but yeah, exactly.
You just it's therapy. I just love playing live.
Yeah, yeah, it's what I want to do.
Which is a blast. Which is a blast.
So with it, your first experience playing live was
forfeit at the lock in. That's fucking awesome.

(01:17:35):
That's. Awesome.
I, I am thankful that I'm in a band with a dude like Dan who's
so regimented that we always practice like once twice a week
or something. I love that, you know, being
able to do that, especially at this age.
And he's just a fucking awesome person.
Like you don't, he's not someoneyou're ever going to be in a
band with where you're like, youknow what?
Dan really fucked me over like. Dan Dan is a great guy.

(01:17:56):
Yeah, he really is. He's AI mean.
He might as well be like an ordained like monk or minister
or something. Like and I would never fuck with
him because he'd probably just choke me out like he's an
animal. I'm going to make the
documentary about the dark side of Dan.
There's no. I've seen Dan.
There's no dark side. I've seen Dan in motion.
Dude, we were at the the buyer over here.

(01:18:17):
What was it called? The Office, We had a show going
on and some dude came up today and got a little ugly and I seen
Dan do some. Yeah, he could handle.
His shit dude, Bruce Lee shit I'm sure grabbing dude, spot him
upside down inside out dude. Dude had something to say and
fucked around. 69 them. Yeah, dude, Dan, just like
washer machined them with two hands.

(01:18:38):
I was like, all right, bro, I got you.
I gauged you. Don't fuck with.
Damn. I got it all right.
That's God. That doesn't surprise me at.
All dude look like Jackie Chan, slide you through a fucking
ladder and smash you up sideways.
Kingston Knights of Columbus forsure.
Nice. Rohis, I think.
We've oh shit, Rohis. Rohis, yeah.
What's the band you were? Never never like metal core

(01:19:01):
band. Oh yeah dude, it's like 2003
maybe. Yeah.
Is any of that out? Like can people hear it?
I I could put it online, I should put it on Luke.
Luke recorded it in priority. It was pretty nasty.
Yeah, because you were always around, man.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. You were always around.
Yeah, he was. There was a lot of shows down

(01:19:22):
there back. Then it took me a little bit.
It took me a little bit with thethe face to the face, but then I
was like, oh shit, I know Nikolai.
Yeah, I, I honestly, it was fucking I when I I moved to
Whitman and I met fucking Pat Bates and he was like, I play
drums. We should like try and play
music together. I'm like, Yup.
And I went over to his house andI met John Bates and I'm pretty

(01:19:44):
sure he like walked in like my first time ever hanging out
there. Yeah.
He was like, Oh yeah, no, I'm inthe.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Excuse. Me.
Can we, can we take a moment of silence?
And can we, can we take a momentof silence for John Bates?
Yeah. Absolutely.

(01:20:06):
Moment observed. You know, good dude.
Unfortunately, I saw him like the night that he died.
You saw him that. Night I did, I did.
Me and Woody, we were over Dolan's house.
Me and Woody were over Dolan's house drinking beers and we
called up John and he was like Oh yeah, I just broke my leg.
I'm all fucked up, dude. And we're like Oh yeah, what did
you do? And he's like oh, fuck my leg

(01:20:27):
up. So we're like, all right, we're
going to come up and check on you, though, you know, And me
and Woody went over there and checked up on them and, you
know, there's some dudes. Adam Woody.
Yeah, when you say yeah, yeah, Nicole.
Oh yeah, yeah. I love.
Him. So I haven't.
I try to think. I try to think of the dude who's
with John that night, but he waslike a weird guy we didn't know.
Mike. I might have heard of it because

(01:20:47):
it might be somebody I'm. Not so, Mike Walk.
Maybe like we didn't like, maybenot, sorry.
We didn't really know him. And we hung out for a bit and
then we were like, all right, man.
We kind of just like, we got to go home and then like literally
like I went home and like Woody was calling me at like 7:00 in
the morning being like, dude, John died.
I'm like, it's 7:00 AM. We started at 4:00 AM.

(01:21:10):
What the fuck? It's 4 to 7, four to seven.
Actually, really, I have a visceral feeling right now.
Yeah, but we kind of felt that when we knew.
When we. I do.
It's weird. It's so surreal that like when I
was leaving, I almost felt like I knew.
It was like, I can't explain, you know, like when someone just
got that, like, cloak over him. Yeah, you know, like, I don't

(01:21:34):
know. Spent I spent a lot of time with
John dude when? We're so like, like, and I, I
respect you guys. Growing up paintballing, he
probably waited. His neighbor was Eric Card and
he was like one of my best friends and we like, we grew up
for years to be paintballing Eric.
Card. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You guys are years. Dude, yeah.

(01:21:56):
Yeah, I do the sign of the crossevery time I drive by.
His house. I just, I, I feel like I could
have stayed slow, you know, I should have stayed.
Oh, wait a minute, did did everybody do?
This. Were you trying to get out of
this? No, you can't.
Maybe. Maybe question 28, nine,
whatever. Were I was in half step and I
did AI was in half step and I choreographed a dance with my

(01:22:19):
sister. She helped me choreograph it and
I danced it myself. Is that video proof of this?
Somebody has on a VHS. Yeah, to the song Aisha.
Aisha. Well, that's that's a trip.
Dude, yeah, that's my first liveperformance other than acting
cuz when was that? I was Tiny Tim before that in a
play. In a play.
It's awesome. I was, I was Tiny Tim in a play

(01:22:40):
that's. Awesome, yeah.
Was it before that? Tiny Kev, dude.
Yeah, that was. Dude and crutches and everything
that's. Great dude.
Yeah, yeah. But Aisha.
Fucking nuts. I would actually like to see
that. It's on THS.
My friend Matt Johnson's mother had it forever.
I don't know. She's still.
Asking. I was wearing like skid
knockoffs because I couldn't afford skids.

(01:23:00):
Do you guys remember skids come?On clock is up.
All right, dude, we're gonna puta clock up here. 2 minutes per
question. You're fucking talking about.
This dude's talking about Nancy Reagan.
All right, all right. That was good answers everyone.
Though Seriously. All right, 27.

(01:23:23):
Yours are way more embarrassing.This might not.
You know. Go for everyone is kind of more
for Kev, but if you guys. Oh boy, no.
Do you write lyrics first or music first?
That's a. Good question.
I there's there's a few. I have a few different to answer

(01:23:44):
the question, neither over the other.
Right. Yeah, I do them both.
I do them both but it. But they find each other.
They they can. Yeah, they can.
Well, sometimes I hear a whole song.
I hear it in my head. Like the drums.
Yeah, Piano, even guitar, whatever.
I. Hear it?
So it's just like like I call itbeing open to transmission like.
Before any lyrics are. Involved absolutely even no even

(01:24:07):
words like I just get this wholevibe of a song and it just.
Comes. The other time I know, but then
I do sometimes I I had, you know, I have like lyrics written
in books and sometimes I'll write to the lyrics.
Sometimes a song, just the musicwill come to me and then I'll
put lyrics to the song. So like, it's all over the
place. Cool, the answer to.
Your but no, that's a great question because I want to know

(01:24:28):
all you guys answers to that because like that's a.
Good question. No, you answered so the last
question when you said Joe Merrick, you were wrong the
best. Producer, I said.
Steve L Bean, the. Best producer you work with is
yourself. We didn't say the best.
Yeah, I didn't say that wasn't. Like that question for.
Producers, you know what I'm saying?
Question. Like.
Yourself like yourself like you're.

(01:24:49):
I don't know that's a that's a good.
One like you're kind of a gay answer.
No, I feel like that could go either way though.
Like like the question I just answered, I feel like that can
come both ways. It all depends on the.
Song because sometimes when you're open to someone else's
vision on a song that you already envisioned, right?
Sometimes, no, you have to ride it through with what you see and
they'll leave it. A good producer will be like,

(01:25:10):
yeah, do that. If that's what you're feeling
like, do it. But sometimes a producer will
step in because they're hearing something different that you're
giving them and they give you their interpretation of it.
Sometimes it's fucking awesome. Sometimes it's awesome.
OK, that wasn't as much as I thought.
I spilled it. Is that a bad answer?
But as the answer is sometimes like you're I.
Feel like it's very schizophrenic answer.

(01:25:31):
No, that's a truthful answer. OK.
Yeah, that's what I'm going for next.
Question All right, 28 Well, what about?
You you write shit. You write like Lyx.
I'm A and if I write lyrics, it's after the music is OK.
Done. Yeah.
Yeah, Joe, what's the play music?
Nick, you write, you're putting on.
Your own fucking out. You're doing your own lyrics.
And shit, I definitely do both. Yeah.
And it's the same though here completely.

(01:25:52):
Song Nikolai completely engineered.
Albums I've even had Jude. I've I've had dreams where I'm
like looking down at my guitar 11, like barring 1144235, you
know what I mean? And then I wake up and I fucking
not only do I like remember it, but I know how to play it.
It's like it's completely like native to my hand.

(01:26:14):
It's fucking wild. That is wild.
It's happened like more than once.
I've had that happen a couple times.
That's fucking. Awesome.
I wake up and I'm rock hard. Yeah, exactly.
So you're you're you're either you're you're many answers.
To that variety of ways A. Variety of.
My my album is not out yet. I'm working on like one or two
more tracks, but I'm I'm fuckingalmost.
You have a name for the project now, don't you?

(01:26:35):
Yeah, it's tearing the wire. It's going to be the name of the
nice, the album. It's it's like a MCD.
It's going to be pretty. Short do you ever hear There
were wires old like band? Yeah, they were from Mass, They
were. Back in the day, yeah, I think
we might have played with them, either Rohis or Terminal.
I saw him with Zeo. You might.

(01:26:57):
You might have played with him terminally.
Yeah. You ever hear wires is all y'all
not asking the questions and answering?
What about? You.
What about you? You write.
You write and play guitar. You do stuff.
What's the question? What comes first, the chicken or
the the lyrics or the song? Joe.
What do you when you write, would it be?
Would it come lyrics before the music or music and then lyrics?

(01:27:18):
Or lyrics after, Yeah, unless the lyrics are in my head
already and then I'm like, dude,you have to do.
And then I write the song. Yeah, it doesn't fucking matter.
Right. Well, I mean, it's a good
question though. It's a good question.
Everyone's different, man. Yeah.
And I never asked Kev that, so no.
What about you? Do you write?
Do you play instruments? I play.
Guitar, but I would horribly. Have you ever like sat down and

(01:27:41):
written like lyrics in the song?I mean I.
Write but like I would write. We have everybody answered so
far so. Come on, I've never connected
the two. I just would like write.
I feel like I don't connect the.2 So either way, either way.
Yeah, I would just. Yeah, Eric, did you already say?
Eric is a guitar player man. Yeah, but do you write stuff too

(01:28:04):
or? Yeah.
Guitar. So you're just fucking riffing
it out. You don't write lyrics for
Branch, right? He.
Doesn't write. Anything.
Do you sing? Do you sing when you buy?
Like do you write your own shit?Actually, yes.
Do you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I do. I do.
Nice, nice, nice. I would say my own stuff is more
like days of the moo, like yeah type.
OK. I've heard it.

(01:28:24):
I'm interested to. Next question.
Like Brian said, he's heard. He's actually heard it now.
That's my solo stuff. Yeah, I don't you.
Heard it, Brian, and. I don't.
I have some, yeah, you're. Gonna.
Share that shit with me. I can't wait.
But as far as yeah, I don't know.
For me, riffs just come from thesoul, dude.

(01:28:48):
They come out. Songs come out, man.
I just try to record them and catch them as they come.
Yeah, You know, I hit the recordbutton and I just go into the
room and turn the amp on and hope I catch whatever comes out
of me and I can. Read, I call it being open to
transmission. But there's I just found out
like a few years ago that like the word, the phrase automatic
writing, I guess has been aroundfor a very long time.

(01:29:08):
That's what it's called, automatic.
Writing. I walk up to the room.
I turn my fucking full stack up as far as it goes.
Yeah, you just fucking. It's Friday night.
Like you guys know, you catch meup here all the time, dude.
I do what I do. I go in there by myself.
I put my ear plugs in. I fucking turn that thing up so
fucking loud you could hear me down at the train station and I
just fucking go at it. Eric, your answer, your answer

(01:29:29):
there contained the word come like 9 times.
Yeah, that's too bad. I come early.
All right. Next question where?
We at Joe, these are great. You know what?
I'm going to take a leak but I'mgoing to ask this.
Question. One more question, one more
question, one more question. Then then a pause.
There's no pausing, I just got up and took a piss on you.

(01:29:50):
Guys, yeah, I'm going. To go you're producing, you can,
you are not. Talking.
I'm going to ask the question and then you guys answer it and
I'm going to go. Take a look.
Can you please pause it after this because I want to P2.
All right, we'll pause now. P2 Movement.
Pause. Pause.
Oh, you didn't ask the question.I thought you were going.
To ask the. Question.
Ask the question. Come on dude.
Come on bro. I thought you were going.

(01:30:12):
To ask the question. To make everybody else and
whatever you know, and it's veryeasy.
So what we did is our website isso basic.

(01:30:33):
Kelly set something up where basically you could just go
straight to the album. Like that's our website.
Go straight to the. Album and hit.
Play It is www.thewoods.band. That's it, That's it.
It's cool. no.com. We were the first Woods band
back in 04, but we didn't, you know?
More like a yeah. There ended up being there's

(01:30:55):
like two or three of them out there now, but we were the
first. So we we did.
We were on Myspace. Wolf versus bear originally.
And then there was like 9 million Animals fans.
I'm like. That's true.
That was like a favor. I wrestled the bear once, dude.
Joe dude, just having an extremeband called Fuck You.

(01:31:16):
There's definitely fuck you. Yeah, there definitely.
Is great idea. I was thinking of the word fuck.
You I was thinking of the word hide earlier.
Like save your hide or save my hide.
Hey did you hide fuck with thosesongs at all they sent you?
Yes, dude, what the Wolf versus beer wants.
Yeah, yeah, Listen to them at work.
They're fucking great. OK, well, yeah.
Well, I wanted to ask you guys, like, what's going on with that?

(01:31:38):
No, they're, I mean, musically, they're fucking awesome.
That's why I sent you the songs,because I was like, maybe Kev
will. Well, what is going on with Wolf
versus? Band, Yeah.
Yeah. We're, I think we're fucking
actually trying to find a singer, dude.
We're trying to find a singer. Oh, are you guys still like
practicing? And shit, I.
Mean. But you we have a.
Room. We have a room.
It's just you. Know what?
I mean, so we got a there's beena problem with the recording

(01:32:01):
because Martin like swapped computers.
So just in all that, something happened to the guitar track, so
they're going to re record the guitar track.
But I thought, I thought the sound was really good, yeah.
It's good. I think something happened with,
I don't know what, what kind. Of Martin happened.
Yeah, Martin. Martin happened.
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, but what kind of

(01:32:22):
friend? I'm not going to.
I'm not going to boss's. Ball, What kind of friend?
Man are you looking for? You know what?
What kind of friend man are you don't know?
Just are you looking? Martin's amazing.
Well, what kind of music are youguys?
Wanting to have like a groove, thrash like a like you want like
a Max Cavallera. Do you know to Zach de la Rocha
do. You know, yeah, they have this
song called Boots. Never mind.

(01:32:42):
What was the question? No, you don't.
I was thinking of roots. This question.
Yeah, Boots. How do you promote your music?
Don't forget. Your boots, Yeah.
In the in the digital. Age in this in this age, I say
liars was right. Yeah, he was right.
He nailed that. He didn't what?
Liars was right. Or Eric.
When he was like, all this stealing everybody's.
Music Liars was right. Yeah, that's why.

(01:33:03):
Everyone's AT shirt T-shirt salesman.
You you look at bands like Decrepit Birth who should be
like doing OK for a bunch of guys should be able to like have
like a nice condo. Yeah, everybody can get their
music for free, no. Whatever.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's the digital age has ruined being a rock star.
Well, that's Elvis. Elvis would not be Elvis right
now. You know, unless you're like

(01:33:24):
Taylor Swift and you're one of these people who like sell
yourself to this like high poppypower, you're not, you're not
going to. You just.
Maybe. I know you have mice.
In here. Well, you know what?
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We have one just chilling.
It's a factory, Jess. What do you?
Expect he just came on. Out like it's not even food.
What's? Up.
Yeah, they're not scared. They're.

(01:33:44):
Not scared, no. They do pull ups.
They do pull ups on the extension cord while people are
here. They're just like.
We had a fucking squirrel in ourroom.
Oh, sorry, Joe. Legit.
Yeah, yo, what's chewing throughour shit?
And I see this fucking chipmunk.I'm like what?
The. Fuck hiding this fucking mess in

(01:34:05):
your corner and eating your. Chicks who's eating my
pistachio? What the fuck?
Dude, you you kind of you raiseda good point though, talking
about like the digital age, likekilling like modern with TV
musicians. TT shirts artists.
Yeah, yes, yes. Well, that's the thing.
It didn't kill the people who are doing it for the love of it,

(01:34:29):
you know what I mean? Like.
If you do it on your own you canmake a lot of fuck.
That's true. You absolutely can.
It's there. Helped bands?
Yeah. I mean who?
But you got a tour, you gotta you gotta do it through like
touring. You can get exposure, yeah, but
as far as, like, back in the day, as far as like, you're not
gonna be Led Zeppelin with your own jet, right?
That's not happening. Yeah, Elvis, not happening,

(01:34:51):
dude. The digital age has made it so
that can't. You mean like the capacity for
money? Like yeah, you can't.
Make so like that. Much sorry.
Sorry. So think about it this way.
Like say like like back in the day.
I mean Metallica, Metallica has jets, don't they?
Yes, because they existed duringphysical sales days.
That's true. So you think about it, right,
You have physical album sales, say you have like you sell

(01:35:14):
15,000,000 records and you have a 30% stake in that.
That's a lot of money. You know.
What I say not really though, because if you printed it and
press it yourself you'd make like 100 and. 50 Well, that's
the genius of Metallica, becausewhen they were young, not doing
that, yes, When they were young,they said we want to buy our

(01:35:35):
masters. We're our own thing.
Yeah. And since since about 1989,
Metallica has been their own entity.
Yeah, they're they're on corporation, yeah, but they're
not their entity. Right.
They don't make their vinyl, do they?
Yes they do. I buy it from them.
Oh, you do? Oh, OK, OK.
I actually, I didn't know that so.
So Lars actually came in a jacket sleeve.

(01:35:56):
So he drove to witness. I've been, I've been a fan.
I've been a fan club member since I was a little kid, right?
And one day they sent out a message like, hey, we found a
old stock of the garage days Revisited.
Yeah, we found pallets of old stock.
And they were like, we're offering it to all of our
Metallica, like, no shit, Club members first.

(01:36:19):
Yeah, and I bought 1. And they sold it because it was
the 595 EP. That's why they sold it for 595.
Only they would have like a pallet of fucking.
Like they found a pallet of likethe original records.
But this kind of proves your point.
Like, yeah, that's not going to happen.
And when I bought that, it like came like that.
It came with an invoice and it had like, like Concrete

(01:36:40):
Management Incorporated, Metallica Incorporated.
Like, no, there's like a whole thing that came down.
I'm like, oh, OK, yeah, but whenyou're.
Metallic. And then you could do anything.
Yeah. And there's other times we.
Can't compare metallic. You could shit in a.
Box and somebody would buy but. We went to Boston.
If you were like, if you were like, fucking what's this?
Thing Boston Calling. We went to Boston Calling, OK.
Yeah, yeah. And we saw metallic at.

(01:37:01):
Boston. Hetfield, James.
Hetfield. Yeah, same.
Same thing. They reach out through the fan
club. Yeah.
Do you want the recording of theshow?
That's amazing. And they sent me.
It was amazing. They sent me the SO for like 30
bucks they sent. Me, the fan can do that The.
Band has a capacity to do that. Because they own everything,
right? Exactly.
Troll everything. Yeah, there's no local bands

(01:37:24):
around here being like oh fuck, I just found this palette.
Fucking albums. Like, like the guys mousy.
Except damn. Mousy the eggs and.
The guys, the guys who load up the trucks and move the
equipment work for Mattel. You're an Equifax dude.
You know what I'm? Saying, well, whatever it is,
Creeping death Incorporated, whatever they call themselves.
Like that's. Awesome.
Everybody, everybody from the people who like do the pop up

(01:37:46):
stores to the fucking trucks getting loaded and the shit and
going off. It's all it's.
Own it all goes through them. It's all them.
Yeah, that's wild. That's wild.
Down to the records, the music. ICP they do that, yes.
ICP make a killing. They make a fucking killing.
They can do fests and shit like.Yeah, I want to go to dude, they
that their marketing. I don't fuck no fat bitches.

(01:38:07):
We know Juggalos. We know some Juggalos.
I'm a Juggalo. Are you a?
Juggalat. Juggalat, Yeah, was.
Bates, a Juggalo. I think he he was right.
He was like looking into that. Yeah, no, it's a ODB.
What? That's his line, right?
I don't fuck no fat bitches, only fuck the slim, you know?
What to say that's ODB? Jeez.
Hey, did you it? Takes you back to like 1996.
Did you? Ever read any Metallica books?

(01:38:30):
Oh God. Yeah.
Did you read the birth school? Metallica death one?
No, that's a good one, dude. Is it on audio?
So I, I wanted to know about like Cliff Burton and shit.
I didn't know. I didn't know anything about him
or him and Metallica and shit besides of the music, obviously.
So I found that book and it's like it's the beginning up into

(01:38:52):
the Black Album. I've had that book that's.
Awesome book. What did you learn about Cliff
though? Like.
Nothing. Just how much he wrote.
Yeah. Back then, they kind of like
they wrote around him, no? Shit, yeah.
Like, he wrote so much. They were like, what the fuck?
You know, this guy's incredible,you know?
When I learned when I joined Branch Davidian, and I joined

(01:39:12):
Branch Davidian as a bassist, being a guitar player, it's like
a different, it's so different groove, like not even like what?
Yeah, you guys are not. Cliff bro no but what I are but
what I did. Of course you are.
Cuz I found myself at first liketrying to play the bass like a
guitarist. Yeah.
And you're forcing these things.So I got that book.

(01:39:34):
I got a lot. I got that book.
And then I I forced myself to learn.
Sorry, I have a dirty. Book like pulling teeth,
anesthesia, Dyer's Eve and I forced.
Myself to. Learn those on bass to help me
be a better bassist because I'm a guitar player.
See, but he does play like a guitar.
Yeah. Oh dude, you know what I mean.

(01:39:55):
Like for sure. That whole.
But he's also like, in his own planet.
That whole thing to live us to die, where you hear the
classical guitar. That's that's, that's actually
his piece, yeah. Playing guitar?
Yeah, yeah. Or the bass.
He's a prodigy. He was a prodigy.
So the the intro, the intro to that song, the outro to that
song, everything except for the like, the like in the middle,

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everything is written by Cliff. They took pieces because Cliff
was one of those guys who like recorded everything he did.
And that's a piece like as they were getting ready to work on
the next album, that was a thinghe was like he was writing on
his own and working on he. Was like classical style by.
Guy, next question. Yes.
Yes, thank you. They.

(01:40:38):
Sacrificed him and fucking used his riffs.
The end. Yeah, I did, Bride.
I was just gonna say that. I was just gonna ask you that.
I just. And Dave thinks it's all about
him. I just derailed this so that we
would go on to the next questionand in you come.
And you come, and you come. So crazy.
You asked me about that. I wasn't.

(01:40:58):
I couldn't really think much besides, like, how much he
wrote. But when they were on that tour,
when they were in the bus accident that he fucking died
in, Oh yeah. So Kirk Hammett for like the
past three weeks or whatever. Was sleeping in that.
Bus slept in that bunk, and thatnight Cliff slept in it.
They and he. Died.
Kirk would have definitely done.They pulled.

(01:41:18):
Straws. Sacrificed it.
They pulled straws. I think that's what it was.
They like pulled straws. Did they really?
Yeah. Yeah, actually, if you like.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can find the interview with Kirk
where he says like we pulled straws.
Well, like whatever there was like though, they pulled cars.
And Kirk's like. It it was either like a case of
like Kirk walked up with like a couple cards.

(01:41:39):
Should have been you, Kirk. And like whoever pulls the
higher hand like wins. I know most people say it should
have been liars, but I mean. Well, yeah, totally.
And you know, you want, you are right about that.
You are right. If if there's a way that the.
Brian, you just fucking. He just whispered music to your.
Ear the. 20. 9 The universe justmakes things the way they.

(01:42:00):
Are 29. This is a good one.
This is a good one. That's true.
I want answers from everyone. Yeah, but if it was Kurt, then.
It's Kirk, not. Kurt, I think we can all agree.
It wasn't Nirvana and Kirk's andMetallica next.
Question. How different Metallica would be

(01:42:22):
if Kirk did? I thought about that the whole
time I was reading that's. Not the question.
No, no, Move it on move. It the.
Fuck on. If Kirk died, Metallica would be
as heavy as DSI Metallic. Kirk, because Kirk because Cliff
would never let go. I'm so glad I didn't buy and
then die in that. Oh my gosh.
Like, no, yeah, Cliff wouldn't let go.

(01:42:44):
That band would be fucking. Like, thank God.
Yeah. What was that 29?
Actually, Davis David will be the lead guitarist because if
Kirk died, Dave would. Probably.
Be amazing though. But I bet there's an alternate
universe where Kirk died on thatbus crash and Dave rejoined the
band. Yeah, because it's like coming
whole. Like when Like when Howard Jones
left Kill Switch and. Jesse, I probably would have

(01:43:04):
liked him more. If he and Lars never came out,
there's an all game. And there's like a whole and
Justice for All album with his like all bass.
And it's like not that much leadbecause.
Jess, Jess yell at us. All right, 2929.
All right, most memorable live performance you've played.

(01:43:26):
Oh come on, it's not fair to askme to answer that question.
You have to. Joey's our biggest fan.
Kitty, right? We we that I played can we can
we alter can we alter that to like live performance in
general, like. No, because it's what you
played, Yeah. Sure, yeah.
But that's not fair to me. Kitty, right?

(01:43:48):
Yeah. If you've done anything else
now, no. Not.
I have two and they're on like polar opposite ends.
My favorite show that I ever played was with my old band Jay
Jansen. We played with Smack and Isaiah
at the Wareham Skate Park and I got our band kicked out of there
afterwards for a total noble cause.
After the set. Yeah, after the show.

(01:44:09):
After the show, yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, we play. And actually Bill Aruda got in a
lot of trouble there with me at that show and Bell, Chris Bell,
but we all got in a lot of trouble.
But. It was a bunch of poop, too.
No, there was like the fucking, there was some like local gang
hanging out called the Dumpster Junkies at the time.
And they were like hitting the girlfriend of one of my friends
that came with us and he wouldn't stop like in the pit.
He just kept like singling her out and hitting her.

(01:44:31):
That's bullshit. I beat the fuck out of him and
then like a bunch of people piled in and there was like it
was Balboni, me, I think Aruda and someone just fighting like
10 people and we won and it ended up being the club owner
son. So I don't think I went
backstage and he was like that'smy son and I'm like I don't give

(01:44:53):
a fuck. Like that dude was hitting my
friends girlfriend and he's likereally?
And he like fucking drilled his son and he's like, I'm going to
all right, here's the thing. There's a good dad though.
You played tonight, I'm going togive you your money but you're
not allowed back at the club. I'm like, fair enough, that's.
Bullshit. But yeah, no, you're right, it
is bullshit. He should have been like.
Myself skate. Park.
Yeah, Wareham Skate Park. Yeah, you're like, you're like

(01:45:13):
you're. Getting stuff a fucking
didgeridoo. What was this?
I know I had my didgeridoo too. You know, I thought about it and
I was like, you know, wow. But then the other side, the
polar opposite is that is I played in Germany with 25 to
life with Caliban and oh, that'ssick.

(01:45:34):
It was at a festival with thousands of people and they
ended up like rushing the stage picking, picking us all up on
their shoulders. 17 years. Ago, that was wild.
Like, yeah. Oh, four.
Yeah. Yeah, nice, Yeah.
That was awesome. So that was what, 21 years ago?
Yeah, 19. Caliban was on Tia then too
dude. They were.
That's when they were like, yeah, it was.

(01:45:54):
Still releasing music, yeah. I forget the album they just put
out, but they were fucking touring it and they were a big.
Shadow hearts, probably. Yeah, I think it was.
And yeah, that's the biggest they've ever been.
Started getting like mainstream.Yeah, it is.
It is. That's when it kind.
Of when they started. Turning, it peaked and then
turned. But they're gone.
They're like one of those bands that kind of rolls with the

(01:46:16):
sound. Like old man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like.
Papa Roach. I fucking hate Papa Roach, but
they just sound like other bandsthat they're ripping off.
Other bands like Thrice and fucking Green Day.
Well, that's what they did. Ultimately, they, like, expose
themselves. Surviving like and I don't know.
Whatever, I'm trying to get Rickto make irate play.
Wait, so. Rick who?

(01:46:37):
Brophy. Ed knows.
Ed knows well. The singer of 25, the last name
is Rick, so I could see where you got that.
I don't. Irate's not playing anymore.
Dude. We would have got them here
already if they were. Playing Oh dude, that's playing
a way. Yeah, I played.
He did like a band. Remember the the Judas syndrome?
They came and played. They were sick.

(01:46:57):
I tripped balls we. Played with them, we played
with. Them wait a minute.
So I answered. Next.
Where are you guys? At Brian, Brian.
What's your favorite live? Yeah, most memorable live show.
Performance. Well, performance, yeah, if
you're into like, anal fishing match.
You guys live saying 7th grade talent show.
Probably that time we anal fisted.

(01:47:18):
What? Just any show?
Just any show. Yeah, the most memorable one for
you. Anyone I've been to probably.
No, no, plain. It's like a JFK show.
Just say gay it's. Not gay.
I mean, there was anal fisting. It's not gay.
It's all right. Maybe it's a little that's.
Enough leave my sister. At it.
It's all right, Bry. You could answer No.

(01:47:39):
They have done being gay. I didn't know they wrote.
Eric just opened the door to hissister.
So. Which one?
See, I got so many you can't guess, but only two of them.
Golf. Well, I'll take an anal fisting
from two of them that could. Be dangerous.
Well, they a couple of them could anal fist you, yes.

(01:48:03):
That's. What I'm Yeah, I don't know,
maybe the old Cafe Mio shows where I used to play with Andy's
old Dan Lost and found in Dark Buster.
That makes. Sense that goes back in the day,
those are. Some insane shows.
With social victim Bra Yeah. Cafe Mio Dan and here's the
first place I started. E Town, right?
Probably they played there like a few times.

(01:48:24):
And then I started wearing basketball jerseys my whole
life. Oh, no, no, I just live in
Boston, you know, represent the Celtics.
Joe, what about you? You have some fucking really
good ones. Amazing.
Ones like yeah, there's, like you said, there's a bunch like.
So, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think, I don't know.

(01:48:50):
I think like the most intense was probably that Dalton club
show. Yeah, just because like we had
we. Had a red cord on earth, yeah.
It was, it was the best show that we set up.
It was for. Gene no that.
Saved. Yeah, we, we, we raised money
for his. Dude, that's that's that's,
that's like a, that's like a youwere there moment.

(01:49:10):
And when we, we just like rang out and kids like.
No like it. Was just like a wall of kids and
people were kids were scared, dude.
They were like, we were scared. We're like we don't know what
the fuck is going to happen. This place might get shut down
on Earth. That was.
Amazing. We were afraid that it was going
to shut down during. Us the best show, you know, the
best show I've ever been to in my.

(01:49:32):
Life no played. We're on played.
It's like there is no show. There is never been a show in my
life other than it being like Pantera.
We have dying bag playing that even comes close to that feeling
of that day your local buddies jamming and that that fucking
whole building was shaken. Dude I had a similar feeling to
that when 100 demons played after Poopa died.

(01:49:55):
That was fucking insane. No, that was just a show.
Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, like watching Ken and
Buzz play my Desire with the guitars bar on their.
Backs. Yeah, dude, yeah.
Sick. That's awesome.
I'm pissed that we don't have that whole show.
Nobody record. Nobody.
What such is that Ken is not. The automata set.
Ken is. Not really.

(01:50:16):
I have the automata set on Rumble.
You have it on Rumble, that's. Right.
No or Ed's version of our set, so I have.
Actually because I. Know that?
Oh, you did. That.
Was like that was with Ed's camera.
Really. Yeah, if that was today, you
would have had it in 10 different angles, 100 different
angles. I have the.
Angle. You'll see Ed back then.

(01:50:37):
Oh, I know, yeah. Yeah, we were on like AV.
Yeah, dude. Like a fucking camcorder.
And that's for your set, becauseI I saw that, yeah.
I. Know that, yeah, yeah, you can
see like the you. Can see everything in that.
Video, right? You got to help me get that
online. That's not rumble.
No, no, the show just on Rumble.Yeah, right.
Rumble. It is, yeah.
OK, so I want to look at that. Yeah.
I'll have to send that to. I haven't seen that.

(01:50:57):
In. Years.
I got to send that to. The I'll put it on the show now.
Yeah, you. Gotta get out to like.
More I was just. Doing the vinyl for us like
because we want to do like some promo for it.
Yeah, get it on YouTube, man. I know that's what I was
thinking about doing, yeah. You do need to do like a huge
like show. Yeah, I would like to do that,
yeah. Eric, most memorable show you

(01:51:19):
played? No, go ahead, Joe.
No, no, I was, I was going to say another runner up.
It wasn't as great, but it felt amazing because it was in
Whitman at the CCD Center with Bryce.
What are you talking? About.
Jerry's old band Bliss. Awesome.
That's awesome. So these guys played and they
wanted us to headline. We were like, OK, like we

(01:51:41):
thought Social Victim was going to headline that.
They've been around longer and had kind of a more of a
following, but I was like, fuck the stage, dude.
I'm like, we're playing on the fucking floor.
So we played on the floor and just destroyed the.
Fucking place to be. Sick.
Yeah, it was awesome. That is awesome.
Yeah, it's. A good place to have a show
though. Yeah, it was good because I got,
like, years before I got kicked out of CCD and that place was

(01:52:06):
like, it meant something to me, dude.
That gym. Yeah, I mean, like, 'cause I was
like, fuck this. Like, I ain't fucking, you know,
memorizing praise and shit and doing homework for CCD and like,
three other kids quit and fucking fuck that.
That day we were just like, shooting hoops in the fucking
gym, that dude. Fuck.
You I posted the automatic set my grandparents.

(01:52:28):
Were pissed but I'm like you know, fuck this dude.
The sets in the chat, I sent it to you.
I definitely was not the godly dude.
Yeah. Or so what's your most memorable
show you played? Me, yeah.
New York. I would say it would be a New
York show with a Branch Davidian, actually a lucky 13,

(01:52:51):
just because being in the Bronx,in the heart of the Bronx, and
even playing it like. That's.
Awesome. 11/30 12:00 at night. Like that was the first time in
my life I've seen people who look like they just got off of
like Wall Street out of work. But like like I saw like a
husband and a wife like in theirlike full at your show, like,

(01:53:12):
and they were moshing. That's awesome.
Like in front of me and I'm like, are they?
In a suit. That's fun and awesome, really.
Like, even she was in like a dress suit and like, until they
just got out, like, yeah, fucking.
You could tell they like, straight up just got out of work
and they were like. So even the people on Wall
Street are coming down to the death metal show.
That's. Awesome.
And it was. It was, it was definitely a

(01:53:33):
trip, man. I mean, we played some with some
great bands and. Like scumbag.
Scumbag did play that show, I believe earlier in the day, but
we I mean, just watching like just the fact that like even
like at like New York is so different.
The demographics is so. Different 1000%, yeah.

(01:53:55):
Like, let's put it this way, like like in our area even like
if you could even like calculatelike so sure.
And Boston and Brighton and Allston and put that all
together like it wouldn't even be like a a fraction of the
amount of people who show up to the most mundane shows in New.
York, NY is. Fucking Because there's so many

(01:54:16):
people, there's so many millionsof people who are interested in
those things. Yeah, you know, like a lame
night, like 500 people show up and you're like, well, Jesus
Christ, you know, like. Oh shit, relax people.
New York's like the only place, other place, I mean, not really
here. I mean, I've, I've been like

(01:54:36):
threatened for my life. Like, you know, like Cafe Mia
when diecast played and like blood has been shed.
Yeah, yeah. But.
New York, In New York, it's likethose dudes marched to like to
fucking hurt somebody. Like they're not, they're not
trying to. But they.
They're like, they swing for thelife of them, like, and I've

(01:54:57):
been like. What the fuck The craziest
thing? Who are these people trying to
kill? Ever seen And and like go
without without tapping into like the 90s Brockton scene
which I'll leave alone. Sure.
Without. Without I wasn't around.
For it the. Craziest thing that I've seen
since those days is we played a show in Manchester at what is

(01:55:20):
it, the Jewel on the Jewel. Yeah.
And we played with these dudes from Vermont called Halliwell or
something like that, right. And these two twin brothers came
out, right. And we're playing this like
fucking. We're just like grooving in a
pocket, like doing the death metal thing.
And these two dudes are doing like windmills and backflips and

(01:55:40):
all sorts of crazy. And if you've ever played the
Jewel, like the Jewels got the whole like base front, like you
can walk out like. They can't hear.
Me. Don't worry, don't worry, 6000.
So like you can walk out, you can walk like at the Jewel, you
can walk out onto this like sub base thing that they put out in
front of the stage, right? You know, just watching these

(01:56:01):
dudes do their backflips, they're like moshing and fucking
like like watching all these like, like, you know, like
probably 30-40 people like just going at it, but these like two
or three dudes in front just like doing all.
These crazy guys are coming in like Oklahoma.
Like. There might be that different
blood sport that John Claude Vanam lines up and he's like,
all right, dude, I'm just like, knock you out.
But he's like watching them. Like, holy fuck, dude, you're

(01:56:23):
doing some crazy stuff. Like no.
Like dirty. Dancing and shit.
I was like, I haven't. I was like, dude, I haven't seen
that since the 90s. Dude, that was pretty cool.
New Hampshire's a good time, man.
See, that's since they put me inthe cold.
The jewel's a cool spot. I don't think I've been there.
I've never been there. I know, yeah.
Don't lean on the table. I'm sorry.
I'm not sorry. Next question table is not.

(01:56:44):
From all right. Question 30.
Do not lean on my table. How ghetto is how ghetto are we?
Don't lean on the table. Get off my table.
Take your coffee mug off the table.
All right, question Question 30 I'm.
Coming back. 30 I can't even believe I'm letting everything
on there. Oh, we got him going to.
Wendy's all right, all right. We're at 3030, but that's a

(01:57:06):
celebration. We made it to 30 dude. 30 woo.
It only took 5 1/2 hours. Fuck.
Yeah. All right, what artists are you
listening to lately? God, they're all older, to be
honest with you. Yeah, yeah.
I feel like an asshole to say that 'cause I know there's some
like new good artists. Yeah, no, whatever, doesn't

(01:57:28):
matter. Listen into a lot of like
fucking. No, we're getting older, man.
This is like every show. Our music tastes change, you
know I've. Been listening to a lot of no
effects in Alkaline Trio becauseI missed you know that time.
Me, it was like a pussy pussy for 9 inch nails.
So I don't really change much, but I feel like that music just

(01:57:50):
like resonates with me and I canapply it to any part of my life.
So and then Tool, I mean, I've been listening to Tool, which
actually. Gay.
I love I love Maynard music but like actually my my least my.
My. My least favorite band that
Maynard is in is actually Tool. Yeah.
But really, yeah, I hate, I hateHUL usually.

(01:58:11):
No, I mean, I don't. I can't say I hate them, but
like. No Pucifer is definitely the
best pucifer. Pucifer is a.
Perfect circle of the dude from the Vandals drumming, yeah?
No, they're they're just badass.Yeah, they're badass.
Pucifer has maned like, just letgo.
Right, yeah, Pucifer has maned, let go in his, like, alter ego,
like, just like himself. Like he's just like.

(01:58:32):
Perfect. I never really gave a.
Perfect Circle had songs about Maynards cock.
Yeah, I mean. I like perfect circle.
I feel like it's. I think that came up again.
That came up last. Episode random point
reoccurring. Theme Maynards cock I guess.
No, I feel like, I feel like those are the 2 bands and he can
like truly like I feel the Tool is like how he like came out and

(01:58:53):
like became his musician self that he is like who he is and
people the mainstream really embodied that.
But like literally the other twobands are really who he is and
like lyrically and even the the talent in the band, like those
guys like let go when they play.And so those tunes I could just
like listen to over and over andover again.

(01:59:14):
I'll have to listen to Puscifer.I've never really.
Oh, it's so good. And then a few times.
Do a song of Mila Jovovich. Yeah, that one, yes, yes,
because that was the time he hada fling with.
Her. But actually the singer that he
sings with now, Karina Round, she's like extremely.
Talented. Her her band is also super cool.

(01:59:35):
She's a really cool human. Sort of a local rapper that I
listen to now. G Fredo probably.
He's in prison right now. Probably another G.
Fredo dude there. We go.
No seriously though, awesome Dorchester rapper local.
He's in jail. Probably get a tool best the
best like musical performance I've ever seen.

(01:59:59):
There are two questions. Live was the drum off?
I don't know if we talked about it.
I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe the the So the Melvins opened for the tool?
That's fucking. And the drummer from the Melvins
was wheeled out in the middle ofthis set and they went back and.
Forth Wait, are you seeing what's the best drumming
performance? No, no, it was just.
I'm just saying live, memorable.It was the best like musical

(02:00:23):
performance I've ever seen live.That's fucking.
Awesome. It was it was Danny Carey and
the dude from the Melvins going back and.
Forth Danny Carey is. Fucking one upping each other
like it was Dave Matthews. Been.
Oh, I agree. Oh fucking yeah.
Carter Fucking What's his whole name?
It's Carter. Carter Bofit the Third.
Man, yeah, he's fucking. Tired.
None of that too like. Yeah, they're not.

(02:00:43):
With those. Guys, they're violinist died.
I mean dude. We did.
I think one of them died in likea fucking quad accident.
Yeah, yeah, I think it was the black dude on the violin.
He's insane. Insane, yeah.
He's like, that is one of my most favorite live bands to ever
watch play. Like, I listen to metal so much
and I do listen to everything, but like Dave Matthews.
My. Annual band to go watch like

(02:01:04):
they. Perform the musicianship.
The yeah, the musicianship is insane.
But but not only that, like how many bands do you go watch where
like a fan is totally digging the music and just having fun
and. You see them failing it?
Yeah, like they're. Just like, really having a good
time. Yeah.
You don't see that. Like, bands just go out there,
they play the show, whatever. People have fun.

(02:01:24):
But like Dave Matthews, like they jam.
He's a funny dude, too. Yeah, he's a comedian.
He used to be a comedian. Hey, did he?
Yeah, he was a. Comedian, I believe you.
Dave Matthews blew up. I don't want to.
He's a very dry joke. Teller, but yeah, he's they're
not talking about anything. Yeah, I don't want to stomp on
that conversation. Yeah, yeah.
No stomp on us. I I can imagine that the Dave
Matthews Band. That's so good.

(02:01:46):
So good was incredible, but Danny Carey and the dude from
the Melvins on drums was unbelievable.
The timing, dude, they were like, there was no timing in
between them playing. Like it was like, it wasn't like
Tool, it was like watching two death metal drummers go at it,
dude. Back and forth.

(02:02:08):
Back and forth, back and forth, dude, like 1111 like it was.
I was like, I forget. My mind was blown dude watching
the show. Who did I see the drum off with?
They they do that with other bands too.
I saw them do a drum off at I. Didn't really know.
I know Melvin's a little bit, but.
Melvin's fucking awesome. No.
Was it the Melvin's? No, I think it was helmet.

(02:02:30):
I don't. Know, Mel, it was a Melvin's.
I think it was a Melvin. 'S but I.
Wish I could remember what I sawit.
Was a Sabbath, huh? What was that drama from?
What was Sabbath? It was.
What's his face from? Rage.
Rage. Yeah.
That was good. Good one, right?
Yeah. It was basically, yeah, sorry, I
I kept back. I should have just let loose in
it. But no, it's not.
Yeah, it's not. Burp on my mic it's.

(02:02:50):
Not my mic I feel like. Back we saw.
We saw Sabbath twice. I feel bad.
I think, I think the first time we saw Sabbath it was the dude
from Rage Against the Machine, and then I think the second time
we saw Sabbath, I think it was Taylor Hawkins.
I think so. No shit.
He. Plays her as bad.
Yeah. Yeah, he.
Did, yeah. Oh shit.
That was a cool show. The dude from Foo Fighters.

(02:03:12):
Yeah, yeah, he's amazing. Dude.
He played for like Elanis Morrison.
Jay with Sabbath Dude I. Think he was Elanis Morrison
drummer. I know that, yeah.
Yeah. No, he's a crazy drummer, Yeah.
He was. What's his name?
She wrote that album about it. I.
Thought that's the rumor. About Dave Joey.
What's his name? Dave.
Dave Collier, Dave. Collier.

(02:03:33):
Yeah. So, OK.
So question 30. Music.
In a world of Uncle Jessie's, you should have been Dave
Cooley. Yeah.
What artist have you been listening to?
Lately, yeah, like, I, yeah, I know.
They're all old. Well, mostly old.
Well, G Fredo. G Fredo, rapper out of
Dorchester. Yeah, just check this out.
Yeah, it's brutal. He, he let's.
Just say he's in jail for the exact thing he raps about.

(02:03:54):
You guys might have seen it in the news.
There was a huge raid, like likemurder drugs.
There was a huge raid in Dorchester last year and it was
on like all the news channels and like his whole like a bunch
of people in that crew. Got caught?
Do you know what? He got caught up nothing to.
Do Ray Quan being the best rapper of all time Nip.
No, no. So who you been listening to?

(02:04:16):
I'll take Chief Radio over Rico.I feel like we already answered
this in a different variation. Oh my God.
Because he was like Chuck Berry like.
No, that was just who he's who he searched.
Current, current music, people that you're listening to current
music. I told you.
Who? Oh my God, yes.
Actually I mean couple answer the.
Question. The wife has been watching House

(02:04:38):
on TV, right? That's.
Not. The question yes, it is you.
Know he's he's answering it. The Wife The wife has been
watching House on TV, which led me to jump down a rabbit hole.
That led me to find out that Hugh Laurie, the style of House,
is actually a Blues musician. I could see that.

(02:05:00):
Actually, he's pretty. Good, I bet.
And he's actually pretty good, so I've been listening.
I know we're having him on tomorrow, so I've.
Actually been listening to Hugh Laurie.
We're going to get the guy who played doctor on House.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know.
I'll be. Tuned, I could see that.
I could totally see him being like a.
Jazz like blue jazz. Absolutely.

(02:05:20):
It was much. Better.
That's awesome. That's fucking.
This asshole wants to talk aboutHouse.
Who you been listening to bro? Yeah, cloud rap.
Cloud Rap. Like iCloud, SoundCloud,
SoundCloud. Rap.
Cloud rat. That's the name of the guy.
Cloud rat? Is that a guy?
Cloud Rat. It's a band.
It's a three piece band out of Michigan.
They only what? Kind of.

(02:05:41):
Three piece band holy. Fuck, like grind core
experimental like it's awesome. It's great.
OK, sweetheart. OK, nice.
Nice and he's. Going to be in the notes too.
I need to take notes. No notes.
Alright, miss Anal. Kind, I'm going to fire off some
bands. Cloud Rat.
Yeah, I'll forget that. Like the?
Firing off some bands, Candaria and Let's get to Candaria.

(02:06:02):
Oh, really? On a Candaria.
Oh my God. Fuck yeah.
I've been talking. About amazing.
Drummers been listening to no effects because I never really
listened. To you got the book you.
Got I've been listening to the book.
It's fucked up. It's pretty deep.
I know it's fucking visceral. I hit the I hit the like when
Hefei was talking about losing his brother, dude, and hit me
this morning. I was like, thought about you,

(02:06:23):
man. I was like.
You don't need those. Yeah, you know, yeah.
Yeah, it's deep, dude. I feel the same.
Way I'm like, I'm like this is too deep for 5:00 AM right now.
What am I? Yeah, that makes sense bro.
Coffee. First coffee.
So then I put Candaria on. I'm like, fuck that, I'm
listening to Candaria. Have you been listening to No
Effects? Yes, yes.
What do you think? I mean, I gotta give it more

(02:06:46):
time. I gotta give it more time.
You know what I mean? I know.
Punk and droplet. Yeah, that's what I've been
listening to. OK.
If I think back in the day when it was released, yeah, I
definitely would have liked it, but I've never heard it.
Can I make a suggestion? Yeah, wolves and wolves
clothing. Is that album or?
Yeah. A later album.
Okay, yeah, I'll listen to that.It's probably better.

(02:07:07):
Record heavy petting zoom. It's an.
Amazing album heavy petting if you want a quality record, yeah,
though it's better like recording sound is better than
heavy petting. Zoom punk and trouble.
Yeah, it's. Heavy petting zoom.
Yeah, it's better than that. No.
Production wise, yeah, it's better than.
That well, yeah, but. 1000% better than.
That so, yeah. But No Heavy Pennings was a
great album. Especially the promo.

(02:07:28):
I take pump up the Valium over that but.
I've also been listening to Serpentine Dominion now, if you
guys ever heard No no, it's. Adam porn now.
Adam D it sounds like porn, all right, Yeah, it's Adam D from
Kill Switch and Corpse Grinder from.
Oh, no way. It's just them two.
Yeah, yeah. What's it?
What is it? Again, Serpentine dominion.

(02:07:49):
No shit, it's Adam. D from kill switch.
That's exactly what you think. Like, yeah.
Brutal. Lithering, yeah.
Yeah, that's. Serpentine.
All. Right, next question all.
Right, we're on. 3130. One favorite transition with
that every time. Now you.

(02:08:09):
Should I just want to shout out G Fredo?
Yeah, all. Right, it's on my search.
Who's your favorite lyricist besides G Fredo?
Bill Ward. Bill Ward.
Bill Ward. Is, yeah.
Yeah, that's solid. Gangster answer.
I'm going to say it and you're guys going to hate it because I
just keep repeating it, Maynard.I He's a great lyricist.

(02:08:34):
Jon Benet. But what?
No, I'm going to say, I'm going to say Maynard, but in Japanese
diary in Pussifer. In Pussifer, Oh boy.
Specifically, I'm just going to specify the band.
What? Kind.
Of dude I love Tom Waits lyrics.Because dude has a dream about.
His dead mother. He's a poet, dude.
He's a poet. What kind of?

(02:08:54):
Guy has a dream, his dead motherwakes up and writes the greatest
song of all. Time Bill Ward.
I don't know who. Who?
Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney.
Mother Mary, she comes to me. I mean, dude, I mean, I could.
That's a solid. I mean, yeah, John Lennon, Paul
McCartney, they're both fucking great lyricists.

(02:09:15):
That all comes out of. There's so many good lyrics,
dude. Fat Mike.
I I, you know, yeah, he's a great lyricist.
Does he write old lyrics? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matt Skiba is a great lyricist. Alkaline Trio.
Matt Skiba, fucking poet. Talking to the mic, Eric.
Honestly. But Oh my Jesus Christ, back up.
Roy, Roy Orbison and Neil Diamond also great.

(02:09:36):
I'm joking up on the band. I'm throwing Al Green, Al Green.
Fuck yeah. That's the Dutchie cash potato.
Alright. Not mashed potatoes.
Art, I'm going to say Dallas Green is my favorite.
Who's that from? City and color.
I never, I never listen to City.He's like a solo artist.
He used to play for Lexus on Fire.

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OK. Play guitar.
Yeah, that was. A band that.
Never heard city and color. No.
Oh man. I'll send you some good shit,
OK? Local, Local to here.
Local to here. They don't.
Have to be local to here. No, no, there's this.
In general, like. But.
He plays, it's kind of like emo shit, but it's like dark emo.

(02:10:17):
Conor Oberst Bright eyes. Conor Oberst.
I like his lyrics. I get bright eyes.
Yeah, the dude from Alexis on. Fire, huh?
Dude, he's fucking dark. Yeah, like emo, but like death.
Emo send it. Really.
Send it. Really.
You. Know you know who?
Originally send it to. Us please.
Who's original emo? Can you guess?

(02:10:39):
Original. Emo yeah I have sunny emo OG.
OG emo. Sunny Day real Estate.
Johnny Cash all day long. No, that's.
Not emo, I mean I guess an emo emo.
To me is bitching. That's Johnny.
Cash. Oh, that's harsh.
Sorry, it's bitching and crying so there's there's like.
That's Johnny Cash. There's like, fuck the world, I

(02:10:59):
hate everybody and I. Exactly.
Improving my boy. Even like whatever, I just fuck
the world. Johnny Cash is OG emo.
No, he's Johnny Cash is not emo.He's like fuck the world.
He's he's fuck the world. Emo is, and I'm sorry, Kev,
it's. Sorry fag, you might as well
just. Go for me, my life is so sad.

(02:11:20):
Yeah, yeah. So it is.
Yeah. I.
Don't know what is what is what is an emo band, what would what
is like the antithesis of an. Emo band.
Like every band. Like Black Veil Brides, is that
that kind of? I don't know.
Get up, kids. Get up, kids.
But I don't. I wouldn't know.
I don't know, kids. Are amazing.
Something to Write Home About isone of my favorite albums of all

(02:11:41):
time. I listen to Carcass.
I wouldn't even know where to begin on the subject.
My God. So you are so metal you don't
even know what emo is. I couldn't even gauge it.
To everybody, right? Listen to emo.
One at a time, you do you. Do I?
Got self did you do decrepit birth album?

(02:12:03):
Order, order people order order order.
Right. What?
What just happened? Now you're back.
I'm back. He muted.
Us. Hey you, he got.
Out of hand, he muted everybody.My head.
And it hurt. I'm going to write a song about
it. He was like time, time.

(02:12:23):
He's going to write a sad song. This reminds me of my
ex-girlfriend. Exactly.
Emo. I guess.
I guess Nikolai ducked out at the right time.
Yeah, emo. He.
Got black emo. Is like my girlfriend my.
Girlfriend and I'm so sad. It doesn't have to be just.
It doesn't. You know what it should be.
What it should be is my girlfriend left me.

(02:12:44):
Fuck that bitch. Well, yeah, there's that too.
That's screamo you. Can only write so many songs
about that though. Yeah, for real.
Yeah, right. How many songs can?
You do, but that's why I love flash battle.
I wrote, I write songs about like the meter man, cuz fuck the
meter man. You're really gonna write me a
Dick of a buck in there, you sonof a cunt?

(02:13:05):
Thrash is like aliens from out of space.
Fucking butt fuck you fucking I fucking anal sex.
That's like. Nuclear oligos.
Weird. Oh, that's like.
That's like misfits, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Like like thrash metal? That was the most rational
recovery. It's.
Not it's not political, it's notapolitical, it's just like
fucking crazy. Fun.

(02:13:25):
It's awesome. It's awesome.
I'm into that. Yeah, that's yeah.
See. We can.
That's like Kevin. Look at the table.
You need to what's happening? You need to get up.
Am I shifting it? Yeah, messing with the table
again there. You go.
I'm wondering why my fucking laptop is like crawling across
the table. We're going to have to paint a.
Circle pocket we. Have to paint a big watch if you

(02:13:48):
watch this podcast. If you watch this podcast on
fast motion, you'll just fuckingsee the table just swoop over.
I'm saying. Wait a minute.
All right, so that was question 31.
Did we all answer it? Yes.
Yes, we must have by now. No, Brian.
Brian didn't. Eric's still answering.
Hold. On Brian's just like the next

(02:14:08):
question. Oh, did Brian not answer?
It can we take a break can. We because we.
All we're live on Rumble. Pee.
Hey, Rumble rats. Rumble, we have to pee.
Hey, play some city and color. Oh yeah, do that.
I shouldn't. Well, can you pause it and play
it on Rumble? You guys are fucking killing me.

(02:14:29):
You're killing me. So sorry buddy, we love you.

(02:15:00):
People are cunts when shit like this.
Happens. Yeah, dude, I see it all.
The time I. Fucking see it all the time man.
Back at it. And then I've never made a
county comment like that becausethere are people that do and
there's people that don't. And you see it and you're like,
you're good. Last, ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah, we're back kind. Of people and people who live
through tragic, tragic things. Like that.
All right, 32, Yeah. Shit happens.

(02:15:22):
Do you have any pre show rituals?
I used to, I used to gag like and Pat McKean used to laugh at
me before every show. I'd just be like, I'd be dry
heaving. Yeah.
Just like butterflies, like, yeah, yeah.
And I just fucking walk. No, I do.

(02:15:44):
I do post show rituals. I go on a walk after every show.
Good. I've been doing that since I was
a kid. Yeah.
It's good, good to get some air.Yeah, fresh air, yeah, after
fucking dry heaving for like 3 hours and then you play and then
yeah, go for a walk, dude. Treat off every opportunity like
I want to make it my day. Is this a pre show ritual?
Yeah. Yeah, I don't I.

(02:16:04):
Don't masturbate. No dude, I don't masturbate.
Poor show. I show up late, actually.
I show up late. I'm actually like can't be too.
Oh, we going, we going at 7:52. Oh shit, I show up at 6:59 or
whatever or whatever it is. Can be like 10 minutes before
we're supposed to go on. Are you saying you cut it close
just to get the adrenaline or get off the table?
Get off the table just. Me dude, I'm gonna it's a table.

(02:16:28):
Yes, you're pushing it. Well, yeah, I'm.
Leaning on it and I'm. Fat, you know, though I've had
I've had great result of my friends and I'm.
Gonna feel like I'm gonna. I'm gonna, yeah.
My pre show ritual is to keep Lozi calm and to carry.
What does Lozi do before the show?
Is he getting? Married.
There's really, really stinky gloves.
Does he pace back and forth wicked fast, like faster than he

(02:16:50):
does every time I see him? He loved the.
He's a fucking pacer, that guy. But he like, runs through
everything like that's set and what can happen with everybody.
Yeah, I could. I could see that he.
Even comes up to me and he's like, yes, you're going to go to
the merge table when we get on so that someone.
'S yes dude, dude. Yes.
Dude, you got to go to the mergetable.
I'm. Like, yeah, lousy.
I'll be there. It's 5.

(02:17:11):
Yeah, I don't know if this person I respectful again I.
Think no. Yeah.
I'll be dude, yeah, dude, yeah. Dane might be the most solid
person. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Shadow Dane Lousy. Absolutely.
I could totally see that though.I could see him just getting all
this ducks in a row. Fucking yeah.
He's just like his mind is just going and he's just trying to
figure out everything and. He's a monk.

(02:17:31):
He's a. Monk.
Well, that's how he is anyway, man.
He works with like what, like 4 different projects or three
right now? I don't know, like he's always
just fucking ping ponging, but everything he does is great,
yeah. I'm tired to all of.
Them you can check out. Yeah, I know earlier in the
feed. Tired.
When they Yeah. I've been playing Paw Punk with

(02:17:51):
them. Well, we haven't in a while and
I just hope I haven't bummed himout.
The get along gang we started doing the dead get.
Along gang. So we happened.
Yeah, yeah. He had this idea for the Get
Along gang and he wanted the Woods to like be the backup band
with him, like for or whatever it is.
And we're like, yeah, dude. Like he writes good.
He loves everything. He's magic glory.
Magic. Yeah.
So we did a song. We played it live with.
Him Magic Glory is actually making a a comeback.

(02:18:14):
Brandon from the 6th Seal, he's the drummer from Xanguination,
he's joined. Yeah, beyond 6-8.
Yeah. So yeah, yeah, we, we, we've
started some jamming, you know, together just trying to fill,
you know, everyone out. Man, that's cool.
Brandon's a cool shit, man. A good shit.
Yeah. Jay, I love him.
He's a. He's a.

(02:18:35):
He's a sick drummer too. Talent drummer.
I don't know him. But yeah, he's a good shit.
Yeah, he's a drummer. I know that you hand.
Him the homework and he just. Yeah, dude.
Oh, he's. Great.
All right. What question are we on?
33 now. 33 look at us go shit big number Brian what's?
What's your favorite thing aboutplaying Live I.

(02:19:02):
Don't know, just just when I. Walk back off stage.
People that like it. When I when I walk off stage,
still having my life. Being up there with your band,
like doing something like that with your friends, like you're
in a band. What are you?
Doing it's awesome. It's funny shit.
He's talking about rituals stillover there.

(02:19:22):
That's that's that's it dude. That's that's it.
Like you, you play live. Playing with your friends like
it's. Like it's like amping and fun
and so like it's so great, you know, there's not much that
really compares. No, that's true.
That is the ultimate like pay off, I think for like the Oh
yeah, the live playing. Oh yeah, yeah.

(02:19:43):
For me it's carrying the gear back up the stairs.
Fuck. Yeah.
At the end of the night here, yeah.
I'm just like come on fuckers, give me the shit, let's go.
What about you? Did you already say it?
No, I think playing to like new people, yeah, I think, you know,

(02:20:04):
hearing a response from other people that I don't know.
I love that shit. It's always cool to get
approached by somebody. Like yeah, I love that shit.
Like what it actually is to them.
Like, yeah. That's cool.
Yeah, it's cool. Like, you know, like you said
that kid, you know what I mean? He's like, oh, I'm like 15.
Your band's like one of the biggest influences, like, of our
band. Now I'm like, holy shit.

(02:20:24):
Who the fuck is this case 15, dude.
Like for my band, that was 20 years ago.
Like like holy fuck. And you could name yours too
though, like they're doing you're.
Doing for them. What yours did for you, it's
like, yeah, it's amazing. Like you did something right.
Dude, I know, I know. I think so.
And. It was with.
Well, it was with. Feels like that, yeah.
It's with your heart. Random like 15 year old kid says

(02:20:45):
like I love the automata and you're like how the fuck do you
even know who the automata? Is, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and he's like, oh, YouTubeand you're like.
What? What's YouTube?
And then I'm like, you should probably check out my buddy Joe
Barrett. Yeah, dude.
I mean, I just. Did you just linked up with you
guys? I.
Hope I'm still bored. On the new when you guys press

(02:21:06):
those new albums? No, Matt did.
Matt. Matt sent him like, one of our
only old shirts. Yeah.
And the first demo, like, yeah, the kid was pumped.
He was like, Oh my God. Did he do the art for it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did the art for all of our
shit. Yeah, it's awesome.
Yeah. Like to have someone like all
these years later just be like, whoa.
All these years. He was in all these.

(02:21:26):
Years too. Yeah.
Yeah. That was in that band with that
dude, yeah. Scott was, too.
Yeah, no, no, Scott wasn't in that band.
He didn't play drums with them in a second.
No. I thought he did.
No, no. After.
That that's because that was when we were in bleak season.
Oh my God. Together.
Oh shit, I think he was going. Kinch.
Kinch was in bleak season, rightI?

(02:21:46):
Know he talked. About it?
No, Goonie was. Yeah, Goonie was, dude, the
bleak season, dude. People still talk about that
too, Yeah. We might be putting some shit
out. You should some band camp or
something at least, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're working on, you know, pretty mastering it or
something. I don't.
Know Taucus has a good voice, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. It's awesome.

(02:22:08):
He's another poet. Yeah, he really.
Yeah, dude, he is. Yes, yes, Yeah.
He's a pretty amazing lyricist. He's like pretty deep.
He's a pretty. Deep.
Yeah, he. Is not to be too emo or
anything. Nope.
My favorite lyricist. Is his father.

(02:22:29):
'S way by the way. Chase Caucus has been hanging
out with my mom, by the way. I know.
And we barbecued, remember? Oh yeah, that's right.
Oh, was it Oktoberfest? Or yeah, yeah, it was it.
Was next question. No, hold on, Brian.
Who's your favorite lyricist? Yeah.
Who? Yeah, he did say.
Lyricist. I know you just said it.

(02:22:49):
I just. Gerard Way of My Chemical
Romance. Oh yeah.
No so emo. Next, I was like, really, Brian?
Me too like. I.
Said, did you? Did you come up with an answer?
Next. Answer it all right?
You have to answer it. Don't let him go on this, Joe.

(02:23:10):
Come on, General. I don't have to do shit.
I was going to say, well, you like Josh home a lot.
Just. Like, he's a great lyricist.
I'm going Trent Reznor over there.
Queens, yeah. I'm going Trent Reznor over
here. Yeah, that's kind of like a bell
ringer, right? There, Yeah, yeah, yeah, for
sure, for sure. When you know Bry, you know.
Bry. Yeah, it's kind of like the

(02:23:30):
answer. That's like great answer.
Well, thank you. All right.
What is the next question? We did it.
We did it. All right, 34 All right.
How do you approach collaborating with other
musicians? What?
Oh, that's how do. I.
Answer that SO. I just let it.
Happen the woods. Do you write all the music?

(02:23:52):
Yeah, mostly. And then everybody just does
their thing to it. Is that kind of how you've
always done it? Pretty.
Much. Yeah.
Yeah, see, that's why I'm interested in you trying the
Wolfers Bear shit, because it's completely different, yeah, than
something you've done and yeah. For sure.
Yeah, yeah, I always wanted to do.
Like a more like a Greg Kodu, Greg Picato.

(02:24:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a Greg Picado like.
Something dude, I don't know if that's the style we want.
I don't really like his style. I'm not into.
It I'm just saying Kevins punk style versus yeah.
You guys like sludgy metal soundwith Kevin?
Singer see, I like Kevin screaming.
I like Kevin's screaming voice like it's he's got a good

(02:24:37):
that's. Fun, but that's why I can hear
like the better love is type of sound like the better love is
like I. Don't the music Yeah, if you've.
Ever heard of them like I love? Yeah, I have they're.
Fucking awesome So. But I could definitely see like
wolf versus bear with your styleand how you are like and how you
attack lyrically. I think maybe with like some
heavy. Melody, so our original.
Singer would be fun. Our original singer was this kid

(02:24:58):
Nate. I was friends of Martin.
He grew up with Martin. They were in bands together
before, but he kind. He kind of had a style like Greg
from Better Better Lovers. Like it was kind of like.
Dylan jerks, dude. Jerry was.
Awesome it was. He could check out Jerry.
Jerry talking on the mic, man. Sorry dude, sound like that.
Not into the mic. Not into the mic toward, the mic

(02:25:20):
toward. The.
Mic like this? Look at me, hey?
So what about you guys? What's your?
I mean, I'm always open to things, but I just have so much
music written. When I'm in a room full of
people, I usually just play it, you know what I mean?
But I like playing other people's shit too if somebody
has things written. Yeah, I always, I don't know,

(02:25:41):
I'm not the guy to bring music. I want to start writing more.
So how do you collaborate with people like?
Usually just with like, let the guitars and drums RIP.
Yeah. Then I pull my vision into it,
you know? I mean like bring in more low
end, you know? I play bass like a lot.
Like more like guitar, trying toput chords in, make it as heavy

(02:26:04):
as you can, you know what I mean?
Your bass playing is awesome, man.
Like it. And it resonates.
Oh, definitely. It goes with everything you're
doing. It's been awesome.
Yeah, I. Mean I've worked, been lucky to
work with like awesome musicians.
Makes it easier. Sure.
But also harder, you know, I mean, it's not fucking not
fucking. Is it the jam with?
Megagory. Needs the bassist.
Yeah, beer dudes that shred. I'm already doing too many

(02:26:26):
fucking bands. That's my answer dude, get the
fuck up. You playing guitar?
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. Nice.
It'd be cool if music was like the full time thing and that's
all you did every day that. Would be.
I wish, you know what I mean? Yeah.
That would be amazing. Amazing.
Yeah. You're not gonna lie.
Playing guitar in Megagory is like, kind of like a dream, you
know? Like, yeah.
Like playing. So you're playing with Dan or is

(02:26:47):
Dan? Yeah, yeah.
Just so basically Dan playing guitar.
The entire the entire medigory album that just came out was
what was the original Med material for the next 7 day
curse album. OK, but you know, everyone
couldn't get on the same page. So yeah, yeah, Dan just like
came up to me and Ross and Nick and was like, all right, do you

(02:27:11):
guys want to do this? And we were like, yeah, let's do
it. You know, we just learned it and
played it. And that is what the new Magic
Oreal is. Yeah, you can.
And now, like now I'm like playing guitar with Dan.
It's it's great. So.
Learn a lesson. Seven day kind of had like AI
don't know. I want to say was it would be
like euro style. His harmonies.

(02:27:34):
His harmonies is are you guys doing that?
Oh yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah. OK.
His harmonies are so off the hook.
It's. It's like weird.
It's like. So is that the shit you just
released? You said yeah, OK.
I haven't heard it yet. Yeah.
Cool. Janice.
Janice, definitely. Something to listen to tomorrow
at work. Yeah, he, he, he, he does what
he does, man, you know? Yeah, I just buckle down and

(02:27:56):
watch it, you know, in the Yeah,little tutelage, you know?
Yeah, I'll take it. You know, he's got his own sound
and that's like one of the things that I feel like was like
a big inspiration to people, especially around the like the
Hansen priority. He had a sound like I knew when
he was playing when I came into the building and then I started
hearing at other places. Yeah, yeah.

(02:28:16):
And, and you know what, being ina band with Dan, I will, I will
be 100% upfront with this. Like being a person who like,
you know, has a few drinks here and there and shit like that.
But being like a in a, in a bandwith a person like Dan, who is
like completely silver and his approach to what we do and how
we do it is, is so awesome and different from being in other
bands that I've been in. Yeah.

(02:28:37):
Because so many other bands I gointo like you go in, it's like,
you know, everyone plans band practice.
It's you go in, it's Friday night and like half the dudes
are so half cocked that you it'suseless.
It's just like, but but Dan, Dan's approach like his regiment
in like he how he, he's almost like like I hate like he hates

(02:29:01):
like the Patriots and like Tom Brady and and Belichick and all
that. But he is probably the most
Belichick dude I know. He's wicked New England.
Serious. Very serious.
Like he is like, he is like, he is definitely like, he is like
the black hoodie over there, like like Coach and Branch
Davidian. Cut off.

(02:29:22):
Honey, but that's him. Like he's over there like
everything we do, everything waslike calculated like this.
Like it's like this damn thing. It's.
Awesome. It's awesome.
And and that song comes out and he's like, this is what everyone
who fucking worships Tom Brady and Paul pants and like and

(02:29:45):
Robbie and I'm like, boy. You're fucking.
Your daughters are being whores.Your fucking sons are fucking.
And he goes on a tyrant, and then he sings a.
Song. But you know what?
I absolutely love it because youknow, in ways I do, I do.
I do support Dan. I I love him daily.
Oh dude, I yeah to death. I love his views too.
Like I really do like. How the fuck are you spinning

(02:30:08):
the table too? I'm.
Good at that. I don't know, man.
I can't stop leaning on it. I don't.
Know, I don't know. I think Dan is one of those
ratings. Something about a table.
I can't stop leaning on it if we.
Disconnect from anything. Though it's I'd stay on the
mountain. Maybe it's the cab just.
Keep yelling at me because I keep forgetting I'm.
Just fucking question. 304040 Next question. 40. 40.

(02:30:33):
No, we're on 35. Your mother sounds like a
hamster. All right, read it.
Let's go. All right, two-minute.
Doo Doo, Doo Doo. 2 minute. Let's go.
Fire round, Fire round. All right, 35, Yeah.
What's the worst job you've had?Probably sanding floors.
I do that now. It's horrible.
Brian sanding fucking. You could say it.

(02:30:58):
My job sucks. It's so bad.
That it's yeah, sanding floors. Kevin's job sucks and I well you
you did it. I insta I was the install.
Guy too. It still sucks installing is.
Stupid. No, it ain't.
Not if you're fucking good at it.
It sucks. I will never.
Have Hey, I'm going to let you on the secret.
It doesn't suck when your name'son the side of the van, bitches.

(02:31:20):
That's not true. Yeah, no, because it's more
money. For the record, he complaints.
Every. Day.
Oh I can only imagine working sucks.
But my shits and TV shows and magazines, dude.
Yeah. I have something to shuffle what
I do. That's good.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, no, you're you're probablyyou're 1.
Liner in an HDTV episode. OK, A1.

(02:31:41):
Liner I fucking no. But you know what though?
You're probably happier than I am when it comes to your job.
I can look at you, I can look atanybody in the world cold cocked
in the face and say I'm a mastercop and then yeah, fuck with me
and find out. Yeah, that's awesome.
I meet you. Guys, I'm gonna say Eric's.
Job like I wish I had that guy's.
Job. My job sucks.
You're right. I'm no mass.
That's my answer, yes. All right, 36.

(02:32:05):
Well, what about you, Joe and. Jeff, he's a Carpenter.
Welder turned Carpenter. This one time I had to clean up
blood it. Well, I didn't have to clean up
the blood. Oh, for the restoration.
I I had to power wash the basement that had a it had a
futon that was lit on fire in the basement and the house is
really trashy and. Yeah, who died there?

(02:32:29):
Bless you. Yeah, restoration company.
You guys see some shit? All right, so when Obama was
president all. Right.
No, hold on. Jim, I work for a company called
Indox Services. This wasn't OA.
Let's. Let's go.
Let's go. You want to talk dirty?
I'll get down with you worst. Of ever Macy's perfume counter.
Oh, really? Also ironic that you guys

(02:32:49):
mentioned the last time you saw John Bates.
Last time I saw him was Christmas season, walking up to
the Macy's perfume counter to say hi and yes, he was on
crutches and he said hi to me and it was like a few days
before he. Yeah, God bless you, John.
Love you, cake. But Macy's perfume counter, Man,

(02:33:11):
that blew so bad. Was it the people that like the
customers that you were? Just a round perfume in.
Like. For a chicken that doesn't like
any of that shit, I was just like, Get Me Out of here and I'm
stuck between this like Octagon glass counter of like perfume.
That's awful. Dead women, yeah.
And they're all like, hi, can I use my Macy's?

(02:33:32):
Charge to pay. For this and I'm like I don't
even know the fuck this works like you.
Don't. You don't.
Just fucking spray them in the mouth.
But that one had a sense of, forme, had a sense of failure.
Like you feel like there's like a what are you talking about?
Like when Bates died like. We're talking about fucking

(02:33:54):
perfume, man. What are you talking about?
But that's where you going. You were talking.
About. No, I was just mentioning that
this is also the last time I saw.
Him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He likes to take it and then he likes to eat it and then he also
likes to not target it. Are you reading Cannibal Corpse
lyrics? Likes to take it.
Likes to eat it. Wait, so.

(02:34:18):
Roofing. I'm going to say roofing.
Yeah, yeah. So I only, it was only a small
winter job. I was like when I first got into
waterproofing and there was likeno other job.
It was either that or I got laidoff and like you want to go roof
and it's like this huge. I'd rather fuck myself with a
pine. Cone stuff, yeah.
Hotel in Boston. I'm like, Oh yeah, this would be

(02:34:40):
cool. And it was fucking miserable,
dude. It was like when rubber, this
new rubber roofing like technology was out.
It was like the the new white roofs, like white rubber roofing
like, and it was a dude, it was a fucking nightmare because they
had us ripping up all the old pitch shit and it was just like

(02:35:01):
pitch pitch dust. And if you sweat, the shit just
sticks to you. And they had me crawling under
machines and like digging, digging up this pitch stone
dude. So the machines were blowing the
shit just in my face, like, and when it gets in your pause, it
just burns like a motherfucker. Like.
So I was, yes. So I was pretty much like.

(02:35:23):
Burnt. In December for like 3 weeks
straight and I was like, you know what, I might jump off this
fucking roof. I was like, I'll I'll never
fucking roof again dude. Like ever.
I mean, unless I'm like actuallyjust started getting into metal
roofing, doing metal roofs and Ilike that.

(02:35:44):
That's cool. Puffing metal dust.
No, no, no, no, no. It's like the panels, the
panels, that type of metal roofing, that's different.
I could do that shit. I'm thinking about starting my
own thing. I'm actually.
Thinking I'd like to. Shut down.
That's a that's. A you can shut.

(02:36:04):
Down. All right.
Next question, Bry, that was. A Lightning.
Did you say floors? Yeah, flooring.
He's like, move on. Please, he's like, fuck you, all
right? What's a what's a podcast you
like told? The fucking story, but I mean.
What? What story?
No, you didn't, did you? You said Kev's story, didn't

(02:36:28):
you? You like Kevin?
Kevin's. Oh no.
The restoration. The rest of the.
Fucking futon. Oh yeah, that's.
Right, the couch. Yeah, the couch.
The futon. I forgot.
A girl lit a futon on fire in her basement.
She's just fucking crazy. You guys did shit at a murder
scene too. I remember you talking to me
about it. And then a couple, yeah.
What's like, what's our company like 24 something or other?
Abel. Abel.

(02:36:49):
Oh, Abel restoration. Nice, that seems like.
An interesting job. Though they go to the crime
scene, not. Interesting.
None of them are interesting because nobody pays you
anything. That's interesting, right?
You're a nurse? Yeah.
No shit being a nurse. Hey, wait a minute, John
O'Keefe. Was he bit by a dog or was he
hit by a car? My honest opinion, yeah, I think
he was hit by a car and I think she hit him.

(02:37:11):
No shit. Sorry, very unpopular opinion
that ever. Lock her up.
Yeah, definitely. There's it.
Definitely. There's more people that think
she didn't, but no, I I've entertained both sides, I think.
Are you gonna like, run me over?I think turtle boy is like ran
with that and just. Sure.
Blown it up. And I mean, it doesn't look like
dog bites to you, it looks like.No, yeah, to.

(02:37:33):
Me it looks next. He got hit.
You're a nurse. Like you haven't.
No. You have an opinion on this?
Next, but do you do you think itwould be like that way if it's
I? Think, I think John O'Keefe was
like a dude like me and Kev, andI think that she drove away.
I'm about to smoke myself into space if this turns into Karen

(02:37:53):
Reed. Thing he's gonna, he's gonna
hate us. He's just Hammond.
Next. Very topical.
Next question, All right. Yeah, I oh, dude, honestly, to
me it doesn't even matter. If you want to hear a very
popular I'm gonna leave to me then talking later.
We can talk about this. I honestly don't care if.
You talk about this when I'm backing up all the equipment.

(02:38:15):
You. Should be throwing the fuck out.
I agree since it started before it even started.
But OK. Oh, you guys had Turtle Boy up
there too, I saw. You, you did?
No, I had the will, the glare onand I had Tom CPU on.
All. Right.
Yeah, yeah, error. Yeah, get your shit together,
get your care and read shit together.

(02:38:35):
I could care less. Alright, next question.
Lock her up. I mean, it's an interesting
case. I think I think they were all.
Here, Yeah, Brians lock. Brians.
Always been. Lock her up.
Right, I just do that to troll. I get up, I think trolling.
To make people mad about it, like you just say did it and
everyone's like. Dude, yeah, that goes both ways
though I'm. So people out of their minds,

(02:39:00):
they. Don't both sides are doing that
to each? Other no one remembers nothing.
Yeah, that's the problem. They were also.
They were all 5, absolutely. Yeah, Next question.
I think she hit him. And next took the tail light W
Jane he could have from our. I think she took butting.
She took Chloe's mouth and. Was like from from our host Joe

(02:39:21):
Barrett. Hey somebody, no matter how how
fucked up everyone is, somebody always remembers what happens
bro. True.
Yeah, Ring fucking door cams. We are all train wrecks and we
have been. Three years.
But one of us always remember not Eric.
For the record, yeah, I didn't say Eric.

(02:39:41):
Eric. I'm not trying to kill no one.
All right. Next question. 36 Oh shit, what
is 1 podcast you would like to be a guest on this?
1. My life's not interesting enough
to be on soft white underbelly. Besides this but I like soft
white underbelly. I agree.

(02:40:01):
Good one, my life's not. Interesting in order to.
Be on that. Show you need a really hard
life. Not necessarily like, no, not
necessarily. Thank you.
Oh, you gotta be a pimp. Yeah, you gotta be something
crazy. There are people that just have
like weird situations. Yeah, for sure.
Hey. Happy.
Like nurses? He's talked to nurses.
Hey, is that? Is that a?
He hasn't talked to any floor guys so.

(02:40:23):
Hey, is that a? Not interesting.
It's not interesting. Is that a podcast?
Rizzo's gonna. Come in I.
Think it's both actually. Is it both?
I thought it was. Both just.
A. You might be right now.
You might be right. Yeah, it might be.
I don't. Know I don't even know any
podcast. I do normally listen to it on
YouTube. I do.
But I don't want to be. Mr. Ballin, Mr. Ballin, No, I
don't want to be on a Mr. Ball podcast.
That would actually be horrible like.

(02:40:46):
Like any podcast I actually listen to, that's like very.
Sam Tripoli, I don't want. To be on it like Mara Murray,
like Serial. Killer.
Yeah, there's. Like, I don't want to be part of
that. Yeah, I like to listen to it.
Well, I don't really crave to beon anybody's podcast either.
No, I have a. Concept.
But if I was going to because I know I could go wherever I want
with the conversation. Is Sam Tripoli a tinfoil hat?

(02:41:07):
There you go. Yeah, I could go on that.
I do have a concept idea later on this month.
I know Mark Rizzo is coming to play with us.
Yeah. If you could get him on your
podcast, that'd be amazing. I mean, that's like, you know,
yeah. It'd be amazing.
Get him in here. See if he's cool cool with doing
a podcast. Not paying him.
Brian. Brian's calling him.

(02:41:28):
I will not pay him. Brian, he's.
Not really any podcast. You're not only kidding.
His own. Yeah, for sure.
Brian should have a podcast. Yeah.
Leave me the fuck alone. Yeah, it would be awesome.
No, I. Mean.
He could take all current topicsand shit.

(02:41:49):
All gold. You're feeling the grumpiest.
Old man ever. Timeline Earth.
Yeah, Timeline Earth. The best podcast in the world.
What's? That.
Yeah, timeline, Earth, it's about, it's about the news and
in the world. Yeah.
It's very, very sophisticated. It is for the highest class of
listener, the highest caliber ofperson.
And you're and you're saying you.
Should be on that. That's a timeline or.

(02:42:11):
I should be on time on earth. How many conspiracies do you
think you should? I think you should be.
What's a conspiracy? What is a conspiracy?
All right. How many things do they?
Think are happening that other people in the general population
don't also think is happening. Just reading the news here,
Jess. That's all we're doing, just
reading the news. You know we all.

(02:42:35):
Don't shoot the message. The only the only news show that
you need is Timeline Earth. You send me that, You send me
that. I like that answer.
Just type it in. Type it in your phone.
Definitely check it out. Type.
It in sounds awesome. I'm old and I'm going to forget
that. Time on earth sounds pretty rad,
I'll check. That bring a notebook around
with me all right. Next question, That was the

(02:42:57):
fastest round maybe? Why are you ordering McDonald's
right now? 37 Oh my God.
He's 37. Oh, we're getting.
There 37. I'm preparing for home.
You're preparing for the grave, Eric.
I know my wife, dude. Spicy chicken.
I know my wife, I'm preparing. Just don't kill him.
I'm going to kill. Myself, I'm not killing.

(02:43:17):
Him. Actually, no, that's.
Not chicken. By the way, I'm doing the right
thing. I knew where I knew where I
knew. What I mean right?
I know what I'm eating. Yeah, it's like what?
Are you getting from McDonald? Harold and Susie.
The spicy chicken. All right, all.
Right. Like what do you get dude?
Did you order spicy chicken? What do you get?
When I get McDonald's I get thissteak, egg and cheese.
Holy fuck it's good. I haven't had it in a while.

(02:43:41):
It's good. Yeah, yeah.
I haven't had enough. Spicy Chicken Deluxe from
Chick-fil-A next. Question 2, Sundays.
Yeah. All right.
Next question. I need my 37.
I need my soundboard 37. Are you guys reading anything at
the moment? Yes.
I think you asked. No, you didn't have.
Something no I we did something about a book, but.
Yeah, I bet on the only. One, are you reading anything

(02:44:02):
right now? No.
OK. I am anyone else.
What are you reading? Am I the only person I'm reading
like 90 different? Books right now Oh yeah, yeah, I
agree with that statement because.
I Are you reading 20 different books?
I've. Like 3 but like right now, the
body keeps the score. Is it good?
What's I? Heard it.
Was yeah. Yeah, it's about like health and
like how you. Trauma, physical and mental.

(02:44:27):
It's general health like how you.
Can like trauma. I guess the other things that we
don't think about that affect our health.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like McDonald's?
Where I feel like I did actuallyhear the name of that book.
Before you probably have it's like on the bestseller list.
Yeah, I got it on my. So do you, do you, do you guys
like make a list and like I have?

(02:44:47):
Read those books. Stack a book.
I mean, I give a shit ton of books.
But I wish I just. Buy them.
I just buy them and then like I have a bookshelf and I always
recycle them and put them in like the book bins after.
Yeah, but like anytime I want toread a book I just buy.
It what do you mean book bins like?
So like there's like one over bythe park.
Oh, just like a one of the book libraries, a free one or

(02:45:08):
whatever. Yeah, so like what I've done
reading a book if. I, you know, like.
Or even if it's a series and I finish the series, I'll just put
it in there because I mean, how many books can you keep?
Yeah, that's. Crazy.
That's cool that. People 100,000 million.
I don't have room, right? What are you?
Reading, Dude, I'm reading. Like, I don't even know.
That's nice. 15 different books.Yeah, right now.
Like, yeah, it's stupid. What is your favorite book that

(02:45:30):
you've ever read? That I ever read.
What's your favorite? I think into the air, it's like
a, what's his name? Jon Krakauer.
Into the air. No, in into thin air.
Into thin air. Yeah, him, this author.
And like, I don't even know, fucking like 20 or 30 people

(02:45:53):
climbed Mount Everest in 1996 and like 20 of them died.
I think I did hear. That.
Yeah, like tons of famous climbers died.
Like it was this insane storm. They made a.
Movie about that? Yeah, they did, yeah.
Left 4 Dead I think it was called.
Oh yeah. Yeah, Josh Brolin was in it.

(02:46:14):
This dude Beck weather is like Icould see him pretty much came
very close to dying, Got frostbite all over his hands,
feet, nose, face, like everything.
Like yeah, he got fucked. No shit.
Yeah, it's a He wrote Into the Wild.
I don't know if you ever saw Into the Wild that movie.
Yeah, he wrote that book about the guy that went to Alaska and

(02:46:34):
fucking died in like months. Yeah, Yeah, I love that book.
I love that book too, but it's Into Thin Air is like this
dude's real life. He went.
Up there, lost. Like friends and dude, it's an
intense fucking yeah. It's long too.
So it's like like people just dying and walking by bodies.

(02:46:58):
They found bodies up there that were never found.
There is bodies because wind uncovered bodies.
Like at this point, there's so many dead bodies up there that I
think they're starting to, like,restrict who can actually, like,
climb it because there's like bodies that are just like.
Yeah, every, every. Yeah, there's green boots.
This is like one of the more famous dead bodies of the green

(02:47:18):
boots I think. What the fuck am I even
listening to right now? Or reading.
I'm trying to. Think I I wish I did.
The no effects book, I'm I'm listening to the audio book
right now. Yeah, that's really good.
Yeah, it's insane. It's insane.
I want to read more books. You.
Should do it. I read a lot of articles and
shit but I've never I my intention.

(02:47:41):
You got a my intention, you got.You got a little one at home,
you got a little one at. Home.
Yeah. Yeah, I have.
Too many distractions. Yeah, I don't have.
I'm all over the. Place.
Yeah, ruins your reading ability.
You just got to put that away and.
Just I had shit read. I'm a good reader, I can
comprehend and everything, but Ican't stand more than a chapter.
Yeah, that's why I have, like 10or 15 books going.

(02:48:01):
Usually. I try to keep it to, like, under
10. Yeah, but I'll read a couple
chapters and, like, either switch to another book or, you
know, do something else, you know what I mean?
Like, and sit like Jay got me a book on.
We were fucking with like, woodworking, like timber
framing. I'm like learning about that
shit. Yeah.
Because like this dude that's like world famous from
Massachusetts. Oh no.

(02:48:24):
Shit, Eric probably knows his work and shit, but Jack Sobin, I
don't know if you know his name the most. 40 year old thing he's
ever heard. I know it is, it is, but it's,
it's like I'm, I'm kind of interested in it, in all the
tools and shit and teachers. This whole building, this whole
building is all timber framing like this, isn't I?
Like how the Japanese did it without nails.

(02:48:46):
Yeah, that's, well, that's what it's all about.
It's like you shape. It's all woods.
Join. Yeah, joinery, like wood
joinery, that's what it is. Basically.
They didn't use fucking nails and bullshit back in the day.
It's all wood joining. You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, it's just. You burn the.
No, it is fascinating. Yeah.
It's cool that like you're into reading so you can read
something like that and really get.
A lot out of it, Yeah. Jay bought me this fucking big

(02:49:08):
nice ass book. I'm like, dude, thanks.
Nice. Thank you.
Like, yeah. He's a talented.
Man, he's trying to suck me and he's like, oh dude, yeah, he's
crazy Eagles. Like come to this fucking, you
know, wood fucking turning fucking thing.
I'm like, dude, I can't fucking take a week.
Off He's an Eagle Scout, is he? I don't I.
Think he is. He hasn't been doing it in a
while, but. Sure.
Yeah, no, I think he was an Eagle Scout though.

(02:49:28):
Like dude, I someone like. It would make sense, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, I know.
We, we we have friends that you probably don't even know.
We're Eagle Scouts. There was.
All those baseball teams, Eagle Scouts.
Or next question? Next question.
That's true. That's a good call.
OK, this is a good one. Would you rather fight a bear or

(02:49:49):
a shark? Oh.
Yes bear, bear 100%. Fuck no.
I will take a bear any day. I'll fight.
Both of them actually also depends on the bear.
Are we talking polar bear, grizzly bear, or black?
Bear doesn't really matter it. Too big?
Just gonna does matter like a polar.
Bear. I'm just gonna die, Grizzly.

(02:50:11):
Bear fight them both at the sametime, fuck them.
Fuck them both at the same. Time, as much as drowning would
be a fucking nightmare. I think I'd rather find a shark.
I don't. Know every piece of me I know
that would be terrifying us every.
Scottish, Every Scottish piece of me is William Moss.
Be like, just like, that's it. Fucking bears gonna kill me.

(02:50:34):
Well. Thank you, I love how you saw
that coming. At least I tried to like
blocking the mouth. I feel like a bear like you at
least be on your like. Do you want, do you want to
bleed to death? Wait.
A minute. Are you fighting a beer or a
shark, do you think? Do you?
Want to bleed to death? Neither.
Or drown. I'll bleed that.

(02:50:56):
I'm answering for you if you don't answer.
I'll bleed to. Death.
You're not really going to survive either of us.
Sorry, Brad Kev's foreshadowing that you're going to say
neither. Bro, no, this is a good one.
I looked forward to this fight. Yeah, I know.
I am listening to our hundreds of. 34 Where are we at?

(02:51:16):
Let's go. I, I Brian, you have one person
listening that gives a fuck about your answer and you're not
even going to tell them. By the way, by the way, I am
reading our hundreds of reviews that we are getting every day.
Thank you everybody. You probably.
You probably that's. Probably not a good idea, but
thanks guys. Yeah.

(02:51:36):
Thank you everyone. Those of you who are shitting on
us, thank you. They especially love when Kevin
whips his balls out on the tableand keeps it into fucking place.
Listeners, who would you fight, a bear or a shark?
Yeah, call up the show. Yeah, yeah, you could do that in

(02:51:57):
the chat if you. Want make a poll bruh if you
can. I can't make a poll right now,
that's silly. There's a lot of chat.
Fuck fuck you, I take chicken nugget all.
Day I just feel like, well, Joe,like we know the answer because
you were scared of a deer. Deer.
Oh my God. It's so like.
Bears don't have Hitlers. I would rather die of a shark

(02:52:21):
because I love sea life. Hey, don't.
Somebody's calling. No, don't do that.
Don't do that. Don't.
Do that. Hello Mama.
How you doing? I like chicken Nuggets about.
You I don't know, it also depends on the shark and like
where am I? Am I in a happy?
Place is it a bull shark? Is it like am I in a happy?
Place like is it tropical or is it not tropical?

(02:52:43):
Is it cold Cape Cod in like November?
Does it make it better dying in the tropical island?
Yeah, yeah, it. Does like did I have a good day?
Did. I have a good day.
How many margaritas have I had? It could be one of those crazy
sharks that fucks everything up.What?

(02:53:03):
I mean, these are honest. What shark does?
It do a. Bear.
A bear would fucking chew on your skull and then you.
Like it'll scoop. Out your soft parts and it'll
just be like you're they. Might even save you for later.
They do that. Honestly, I I would rather fight
a bear than a gorilla. But they'll save you.
They'll cut you open. I'll tell you that.
Save you like you'd be like a bear's badass or grizzly bear's

(02:53:27):
badass. But you know what?
I'd rather fight a grizzly bear than.
A fucking. Silverback.
Gorilla Bear. Face to face, No, I have.
Mama bear and a baby bear. And you I didn't.
Have to fight them, but I was out there.
She does like go to the mountains all the.
Time that's like the dangerous time is when they were there
Cubs I. Mean Eric was with me.
We were like we. Shouldn't have pants we're.
Like, Oh yeah, like this we're talking about mood coming out.

(02:53:47):
We're. Around the penny and like we're
actually. Coming down We were running out
down a trail really late one night and we heard we.
Heard a moose. A moose we.
Heard a moose that must have must have been like a fucking
like 2. Ton Moose.
That's good. We heard that down on the rocks
when we're coming down. Oh, maybe the.
Moose because we had a we actually we would come climbing
across the presidential traversewhere we had a bail because

(02:54:10):
there's with. Clipping.
Weather coming. So there was like, you know,
like thunderstorms and shit coming.
So we had to get off the high peaks, you know.
With poop in your pants. And no, not really poop in my
pants and all that shit, but we were going down we and we were,
we were hugging the Musiak River.
And there's some point where there was definitely like a a.
Moose playing. Huge moose just laying in the

(02:54:32):
fucking. I like moved my head lamp and.
I like, it was like it was like rubbing one off or some shit.
It was like I'm having a good old time on this rock actually,
you know? You're.
Probably to become Mr. Hands. Bear, moose or shark?
Actually seen a moose? No, I haven't, but I've heard
like, yeah, you. Don't wanna fuck with them.

(02:54:52):
I'll take a black bear any day over a moose.
No shit. Like yeah, they like tower over
your car. SUVs.
Yeah, I've always wanted to see one in person though.
I'll punch a I'll punch a bear in the head.
You don't wanna see? No, I ain't fuck you in the
moose. I ain't punch.
I'm gonna punch a bear in the head.
I'll punch a bear. One of the bears that you would
try, Yeah, they're about as big as me.
That's square. You're like fucking just as if I

(02:55:14):
was in Australia. Fucking kangaroo came at me.
I'd be like, pop up, I'll do it with the Bay around, fight a
kangaroo. No, no, no, no.
W with a fucking real bear. No.
That's the kind of swipe. Those are the bays that take a
swipe and like. Meet awesome.
You know, yeah. They're crazy.
Oh. Bears, yeah.
Max I would. No next question because the

(02:55:36):
bears around here like went to what do they call them?
Are we doing better or worse than the last time?
We're on target, dude, On target.
We're still in one episode, so that's good.
How long has it been I? Don't.
Five. Yeah, it's been a while, like 4
hours. Yeah, 3.
Question. Three question. 47.

(02:55:58):
All right, let's do it. No, we're not even at.
You're skipping dude. What are we, 30?
838 is that where? We're at No 39.
OK. All right.
Two more we can call it, I guessyou know what I mean.
Yeah, we're, no, we're going to 40 or 40.
Five. Yeah, no, we're.
Going to 50 guys 40. 2. We're going to fucking 50.
Going to 40. We're doing a. 100.
You know. Some of us have to sand floors

(02:56:21):
tomorrow, Brian or. Some of us have to get
McDonald's off the porch. You're leaving it outside for
the fucking rats to like fuck first all.
Raccoons, more than anything, And the bears.
All right, 39 is a good one. What's your biggest accomplish
musically? I mean what what's what, What

(02:56:42):
are you the most happy about that you've done in the past 25
fucking years? Dude?
What do you like the most? I don't know, maybe what my band
just put out. The recording, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. I haven't really done much as
far as like recordings, all my old shit.
Nobody has any more so. I like the friends we made on

(02:57:04):
the way. That's a good answer.
Yeah, it's a good answer. Absolutely.
Yeah, that's true. I guess you do deserve to be in
that news podcast. All right, So what about?
What about anybody? Webster What's your favorite

(02:57:26):
musical endeavor? You can always say you hate it
all, no? That's a good one too.
Fuck, that was my answer. That's a good answer.
No, I'll be I'll be shortchangedhere in a band that was called
Hockomock and the song was called Burn the War.

(02:57:48):
The one song. Burn down in.
That song. I never heard it but that's.
Awesome, I was in Hockomock and the song was called Burn the
Whole. In that song.
Sounds like something Clayton Bigsby would have came.
Oh, this is going to be the outro if Brian can find it.

(02:58:09):
That's yeah. Oh.
That's a Hockomock. It's on Facebook.
Don't ask me for anything, baby.Burn the hole, don't ask me.
If you find, if you can find Hockomock on Facebook, it's the
only post they have, you know, But next question, Yeah, I would
say that song is. What's it called?
Burn the hole. Burn the hole.

(02:58:32):
If you look up a Hockomock then you find the associated people.
You'll. Know All Right 40. 40. 40 she
was. A.
She was a. Hamster.
She was a hamster, I tell you all day long, dude.
All right, what's your dream venue to perform at?

(02:58:54):
The Worcester Palladium for sure, no.
Red rocks if I. Was to ever.
That's a fucking brilliant answer.
Think. About this one.
I think that as an American, nothing gets better than
Plymouth Memorial Hall. What out of all the fucking

(02:59:17):
sleeves you could play? At the memorial.
Awesome. You could at least pick like
Fenway Park. I was gonna say Fenway.
Fenway. How about Syracuse somewhere in
the middle of? Nowhere.
No. I saw Bill Burr at Fenway and it
was sick, dude. Yeah, he was awesome.
Shit, Yeah. Yeah, he's a.
Ride awesome show. YouTube.

(02:59:38):
Yes. Are you looking?
I'll share it. With you, I'll find it.
Brian. Do you have a dream place you
could play Brian? Same with Memorial Hall.
I want to play in the courtyard of the castle for the Princess.
That sounds fun. I.
Mean that wouldn't suck. What castle?

(03:00:01):
Oh, I don't know. Just a castle.
The magic one any? Castle with any Princess.
The Magic Kingdom. Yeah, the magical.
I wish I played at CBG BS. You played at CBG BS?
No, you didn't play then when they played.
Cut through it. No, I didn't.
Living room. Have any of you played at the
Living? Room.
Yeah, we were talking about thatthe other day.

(03:00:21):
Yeah, I think I did play the living room that was.
Sick. The place, the place, the place,
the place that made parking. Lot.
Living room was fun. Do you?
I loved the living. Room.
Yeah, that was a while ago. There's nothing bad about those
shows. That was fun.
I was wondering Rhode Island wascool.
It's not cool anymore. Did.
You. Already answer it.
Yes, I think I did, didn't I? He kind of, said Fenway.

(03:00:43):
Yeah, Fenway. Yeah, we'll just be sick.
Disneyland. Which park?
Disney, which ride the teacups. You know which one?
Oh, Jesus. Christ.
All right, 40, I think that's pretty good.
Yes, Yeah, we made it to 40. Yeah.

(03:01:04):
Oh, we just did 40. Yeah.
Oh Hallelujah, it's McDonald's time.
Hell yeah. What did you get Eric?
He. Doesn't even know.
What didn't I get? Death sub hold the.
Sub you got the spicy chicken. The spicy chicken is good.
Their chicken got way. Non spicy and definitely like

(03:01:26):
wilted and old by the time we get there.
Their chicken got better over the years.
Yeah, because they put more blondes in it and.
I'm going to eat that. Wilted and beaten.
What's forty? I want to know.
What? That's what's 41 we.

(03:01:48):
Could do one extra for good luck.
Yeah. OK, this is a good one to end on
them all. Right.
I agree. Let's go.
All right? What's the most ridiculous snack
you have snuck into a movie theater?
Hummus and veggies. China Southern Comfort.
It's a good one. Oh yeah.

(03:02:09):
I was going to say 18 pack of PBR.
Really 18? Pack Weymouth cameo How did you
get an? 8 How did you do that?
Me and Billy Ruta do. Then we rolled every can down
the fucking. We stay in the back and we
rolled every can down the whole fucking.
You fucking ruffians, you're in Weymouth Cameo just pounded

(03:02:30):
beers in the bag and just fucking.
I think we were watching Eight Mile too.
That's so ghetto. Oh, it's.
A. Little like that I'm.
From Quincy Everest. I'm from Quincy, bitch.
Give me your menthol, motherfucker.
I don't know how that's going tosound, but we'll try it.

(03:02:50):
I. Don't know neither.
We'll try. I'll try.
Mix raisinets and the popcorn I like.
Raisinets. I love raisinets.
Balls what? Are.
My favorite M and Amazon popcorn.
Yeah, back when candy had actualsugar in it instead of fucking
odd. Yeah.
Yes, Brian. Reese's Peanut Butter Cups used
to taste better. You can't.
Fuck. No, you're right.
Actually, no, you're. Right.

(03:03:11):
If you go to Europe and you get a candy bar, it does taste
different, yeah. Totally.
So one of my coworkers from Ireland, he's like, yeah, they
they ruin like candy here. He's like the preservatives and
stuff. And he used to ship the
chocolate from Ireland and he's like, I can't even get real
chocolate anymore. They won't even like, let me
ship. It here it's depressing.

(03:03:31):
I felt, I felt like I I felt better when I ate in other
countries. Yeah.
They. Say that.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a thing.
It's a thing. It's a thing the.
Thing is a thing. Brian is right about everything.
Yeah, don't say that. That's what.
My cat. Said are we, are we ending this

(03:03:51):
with Habamako, whatever it is? Yeah, Eric sent me some stuff
and thank you everybody for coming.
And then everybody, let's go around the table this.
Is kind of some old school. Stuff show up, thrill it there.
Thank you. Thanks.
For you guys, don't want to pluganything you fucking people.
Hey, come. Out to Friday and check the

(03:04:12):
ranch. Davidian.
We play with Gore Reality tomorrow with the New World
Tavern in Plymouth, MA. You should probably come out and
check us out because we can't fucking ass.
Well there are. If not, I can't keep fucking
ass. Yeah, Hell yeah.
Well, there are other dudes in my band, so I should say it too.
So check out the Woods. What did I say it was?

(03:04:33):
I don't know, www.thewoods.band.There it is.
Yeah, that's what. It is Joe anything for automata.
I got nothing. We're just riding stuff.
Wish us luck. You got a teaser wish What you?
Got all the best stuff A bitch. We need it counting on you, man.
It's been a while, wish us luck.But he has some new stuff.
All right, Hard Rock life. Let's fucking try this.

(03:04:55):
My cat said so hob A mock I've. Done a lot of this rose man I
tried. To smoke my own two points, so
you should load up someone else's.

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