Prepare For Revival Part 2 - with Pastors Chris Hoyer, Dan Wermuth, and David Pizinger - 23 - It's Time to Rise Up

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We can't wait to see you there.
We are here to talk aboutrevival.
This is part two of our episodeabout revival.
I want to welcome back ChrisHoyer, Dan Wermuth and Dave
Pizinger.
Thank you for being here.
We're so happy to have localpastors in the studio willing to
take it.
You guys are busy people andyou're willing to take a little

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bit of your time to talk a lotof your time, actually.
We've been here a while, but alot of your time to talk about
revival, and so we're going tojust jump right back in.
We're going to start with thisquestion what are your personal
experiences with revival and whowants to lead out with that?

David Pizinger (01:31):
Well, my personal experiences is that
anytime that revival reallybreaks out in me, because it
starts with each one of usindividually, you know you can
want corporate revival, you canwant transformation, but if
there's not something burning inyour heart then it's going to
be difficult and sometimes whatwe find.
I think Parham said it verywell when the Lord said to him

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are you willing to move intothis revival?
And this is what Holy Spiritsaid.
Holy Spirit said are you readyfor persecution?
Are you ready for trials?
Are you ready to be slandered?
Are you ready for scandal?
Are you ready to be slandered?
Are you ready for scandal tocome, because people are going
to not want to be a part of whatyou're doing, especially when
you're doing that and God'smoving, because jealousy comes

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and a lot of things like that.
But if you make it personal,get out of that mindset of
division and make it personal,then what happens is you have
experiences with God that puts arevival in your heart, that
makes you want more.
And I'll give you an example,because when we had our revival
for Four State Awakening thelast day, I was supposed to open

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and my wife had a major stroke.
So I called Pastor Dan up and Isaid would you cover for me?
Today I've got to run to Miami.
Well, I didn't know what wasgoing on.
All I knew was she's in thehospital in the emergency room.
So I'm praying and saying God,I don't know what's going on
here.
I really need an encounter withyou.
I need you to show up.
I don't know how bad it is, butI know you know what's going on

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and you have planned.
You've helped me walk throughthis before and so I'm needing
you to show up.
So I walk into the emergencyroom and the doctor said I'm
sorry, but your wife will be ina nursing home the rest of her
life.
And I said, sir, I thank youfor what you said and I

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appreciate your professionalabilities, but I need to go pray
with my wife.
I knew I needed encounter withGod.
And so I remember walking intothat room and it's freezing cold
and they've got a doctor fromOklahoma city addressing her and
she's paralyzed on one side ofher body.
And I looked over at thedoctors and I, all of a sudden,
what rose up inside of me?
This revival spirit that roseup made this most profound
statement that I have never saidbefore in my life.

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All of a sudden I said wouldeverybody be quiet?
And I yelled it out and therewas silence in the room and out
followed that was fire of God,and that's all I said.
And a little Baptist girl wasstanding next to me and she goes
I'm on fire.
I'm on fire and I said,sweetheart, hold on to the side
of the bed, because God showedup.

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And at that minute a splitsecond she come out of that
stupor.
Her whole body began to work.
Doctors were just floored aboutwhat just happened because they
couldn't explain it.
Praise God.
What happened was God showed up, praise God, you know.
But it was from a hunger ofdesperation, that's right.
That caused me to really pressinto God, because it was

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something that I wasn't, nor thedoctors were able to do.
But I knew a God who could doit, that's right.
And so that's when the burningfire of God.
You know the Bible talks aboutbeing baptized with Holy Spirit,
but then he goes and fire.
You know, we know Holy Spirit,but do we know the fire of God
Come on.
And the only time fire reallycomes is when there's something

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that needs to be burned up.
And so that means right now,when you're seeing revival break
out, there's persecution,there's people being martyred,
there's people that aredesperate for God and, as a
result, god is showing up givingthem an encounter, and that's
what revival is.
It's an encounter with God, andit's out of desperation that it

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comes, and so my personalrevival began that day when I
experienced God.

Praise the Lord.
Wow, dan how about Pastor?
Dan how about you?

Dan Wermuth (05:10):
No, Well, when he was talking about that, I
thought one of the firstrevivals I'm aware of is the one
when Jesus was revived.
I mean, the resurrection is arevival, was it not?
And his spirit reentered hisbody.
His body had already beendecaying.
Everything had to come backonline.
Yeah, and he come up out ofthat grave Praise.

God.

We saw there is a whole new encounter now with the
living Lord and we seescripture talk about all the
people who had those encounterswith him, and so when he's
talking about fire, he had aword from the Lord and he spoke
it and it revived her body.
That's right.
And so there's a revival in ahealing, a miracle that she

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needed.
That's right.
I remember from early years as akid, going to revivals.
You know they were every nightand so you would go and you
would worship and you would hearthe preaching and believers
would would surrender theunbelieving parts of their heart
and unbelievers would come tosurrender their lives for the
first time, their hearts, to theLord, right, and.

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And so we saw that and I sawdifferent encounters through the
years and different moves ofGod, some I didn't get to go to.
I went to Toronto anddiscovered some of the most
amazing things God was doing.
I didn't get to Brownsville andthere are many other places
where there's, you know, sweetmoves of God, but I liked what

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you know Pastor Dave said itstarts with me and a hunger for.
God.

That's right.

Hungry enough that I might turn my plate over.
I'm so hungry, God, I'mdesperate for you.
I'll turn my plate over and sayI'd rather eat from your table
and hear your voice than eatfrom this food.
You know, that's possible.
And then to linger in hispresence, and so I've been in
these encounters with worship.

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That was revival, worship,revival is a moose of God, I
think, just in the few decadesthat I've been on the planet, I
would say probably the greatestenemy of a really good revival
is settling for good when theremight be a best yet to encounter
.

Amen.

I say that because, wherever my last revival was
and encounter with God, to thinkGod will only meet me in that
same way is to limit what Godhas, and since he is omniscient
and omnipotent and omnipresent,there's the more of God.
I've heard Pastor Chris talkabout the more of God and the

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more of God is, so let's stayhungry for that.
So, yes, fresh encounters withthe Lord and relinquishing how
he's done it in the past inorder to have what he wants to
do now.
And if he comes the same way,that's because he chose to, but
not because I regulated him to.

That that's a good word.

So the revival that's going on in the earth, I
think if we could just turn oureyes towards heaven and not
towards the structure of how wethink it has to be, then there's
this sweet spot of doing theplanning that's necessary to
gather people but not being sostructured that we keep people

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from encountering the presenceof the Lord.
And I heard, I heard PastorChris talking about just bowing
the heart and the knee beforethe presence of the Lord and
seeing what he might do and whathe might want to say.
And you know, my prayer is isthat there'll be more and more
of those encounters, that wewill linger longer and that, um,

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that people will be so hungryfor the Lord in our local
congregations, on gatherings,that, um, the time scale for how
soon we have to get out is not,is not adhered to.
You know, like I understand,some congregations have got to
do multiple services.
And what if God were to breakout?
And what if there was a move ofGod in first service?

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Then just let second, third andfourth jump in if they want to.
I mean, you know, instead of onthe street people pushing them
away, I don't know, just like,are we making room for that?
It's true In our consciousthought.
What might the Lord do?
Yeah, and then how would weaccommodate?
Yeah, who knows?
But let's just say, lord,whatever you want to do, we're

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open to it.
And of course there's thosedifferent personality types that
really like structure.

Yes.

And the grave is a real structure.
If you really want to die inyour nest, your need to have
structure.
There's a grave.
Come in and it's measured,that'll be great, you'll have it
, it's true, but I um I, I dowant.
I want to do things in withdecency and in order, and I
think the scripture gives usthat, and the apostle did a good
job of showing us that in theNew Testament.
But if we're so bound tostructure, the grave will

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provide that for you ultimatelyone day.
It's true, the undertaker canaccommodate.

That's a hard word , but it's a true word.

So I want a resurrection.

Yes, amen.

Don't keep me down.

Amen, amen to that .
How about you, pastor Chris?

Chris Hoyer (10:26):
We were Holly and I was pastoring our second church
.
Our first church that wepastored grew and we experienced
great things there but I can'tsay that we actually saw like a
move of revival or anything likethat.
But during our second church atNewton County Christian
Fellowship, we were asked to godown to Brownsville.

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And you know, in that season ofmy life I was a young minister
and I would have told you I hadrevival.
And when we went down toBrownsville I can remember being
afraid.
I had watched some of the VHSvideos at the time that was sent

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to us that was a while ago.
Oh yeah, and the things that wesaw, the manifestations that we
saw.
I just remember thinking thatwasn't God and at that time, of
course in that season, thespirit of laughter had broke out
at Oral Roberts University andI remember watching that and
telling my wife that wasn't God.
Until it broke out in thechurch.

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I pastored one night there yougo and I was trying to shut it
down and it wouldn't shut itdown.
And then I see my own dear wifeinvolved and it caused me just
to rethink things.

I love that.

You know, I realized there might be some
listeners that go spirit oflaughter.
Yeah, me too.
I thought, the same thing,spirit of laughter.
But when it happens to you it'sreal, it's true.
And we began to see God movingin that church there at New
County Christian Fellowship.
And so I went to Brownsville,holly and I went to Brownsville

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with a dear pastor, friend ofours, and I had so much
expectation for that and I'llnever forget Michael Brown.
The pastors got to go in and hepreached a message about I am
Aiken, I am Aiken to us pastors,while everyone else is standing
in line.

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And I can remember, as he waspreaching, all of a sudden it
was full in their sanctuary andI began to see this wave of
pastors, as he was speaking,beginning to fall out of the pew
and it's coming towards PastorDean and I like a wave, and I
remember this holy fear comingup on me and I grabbed that pew

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in front of me and I look atDean and the next thing I know
it's five feet away and when Iwake up we're all laying on the
floor and this wave of just thisfrom that message of I am Achan
, that's right, that came.
And that first night I just hadso much expectation.
I remember going into thesanctuary.

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The pastors got to go in first.
We set up on like the secondrow and out comes Lyndall Cooley
and he goes up there.
His voice is hoarse, he chewsup a cough drop.
I want to make sure mylisteners I mean I remember it
spot on Wow, and you know theydidn't have lyrics on the wall
in those days.
They just went in and they sangand all of a sudden he hits a

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few keys on the piano and beginsto jump and dance.
Yeah, and I began to cry.
Wow, I began to weep.
I had never felt anything likethat in my life and it was at
that moment.
I was like this is it?
I've heard about it, I've readabout it, but with the stroke of

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a couple keys on the piano, Ifelt it.
What?
did you feel Just a bursting offire and fullness on the inside.
And as those revival servicesbegan to go on through that week
that we were there, holly and Iwere changed.

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I mean, it wrecked us, itmarked us and I, you know, I
really pray that what alleverything that we're saying
really stirs people that arejust hungry and sad, never
experienced it.
Because I want to be clear, Iwas afraid of that kind of
church, I was afraid maybe ofrevival, and then when it came,

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it was so powerful but itwrecked us, it marked us and we
became carriers of revival.
That's right.
And you know, I'm sure, thesemen around the table, I know
them, they're carriers ofrevival.
That's right.
And you know, I'm sure, thesemen around the table, I know
them, they're carriers ofrevival.
And it doesn't take a lot offire to get this kettle ticking.

That's for sure.
I can tell you that.

But carriers of revival and we were marked and
we saw God move and we took itback to our church.
Yes, and revival broke out inour church.
And that's when I knew, that'swhen I knew I was still a banker
, I was still a farmer, and wepicked up and we left and we
we've never been the same again.

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And so when people talk aboutrevival, you know, I always just
it was kind of like Holly and Ijust held our hands across the
fort of Jabbok and went and hadour Bethel experience came out.
We've walked with a limp eversince, but that anointing, that
presence when it comes, when thetime comes, when we need to

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pray for somebody, when we needto give a word and season to
someone that's weary, itmanifests it's to someone that's
weary, it manifests it's there,it's ready.
And I love revival and it's allI know.
I can't be cold, I can't belukewarm, there's only one
temperature I can be.
And it's hot and all in and justready to deliver, and that

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would be the thing I'd want tosay to the folks that are
listening to us is that I wasn'traised that way.
I did never experience thosethings.
I'm so thankful for theBrownsville revival.
I'm thankful most of all,though, for what God did,
because I had been called topastor and I had received the
baptism of the Holy Spirit.

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I was what I thought, preachinggreat messages.
All of a sudden, when we wentback to Newton County in 1995,
after that revival and steppedup to the pulpit the first time,
it was different, and it'snever been the same again.
And when I began to think aboutpreaching I can't preach cold
brother, I just can't.

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And it was like the night whenwe were at your church years
back when you had invited us ona Wednesday night and went in
and preached a word.

And we saw a miracle that evening.

You know, it's just , it's always when I go to a
church, someone's going to getsaved, and I know that you
brothers feel that same.
Someone's going to get saved,they're going to get delivered,
they're going to experience animpartation, the presence of the
Lord, there's going to be ahealing.
Amen, and we're just going forit and I don't know how to do
anything else than that.

Is that not an earmark of revival that I
anticipate Right, if I will be acarrier of the presence of God,
he will show up.
That's right and goodness.
His goodness will manifest.

Yes.

And when you preach there, you also preached a word
about how to believe God forchild.
And my cousin and his wifewanted a child.
They started writing the nameof the child they wanted to have
on their giving envelope.
They would name their seedevery Sunday, but they put the
booties on the wall.
Praise God, praise the Lord,and they became with child, had

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it.
When the child was born, thedoctor said it's a miracle
because the condition of herbody would not allow that.
So he is a miracle baby becausethey heard the word of the Lord
.
That's right, because you guyscarry a presence of God, a
revival spirit in your heartconcerning how God wants to
revive the womb.
Yes, and so her womb was a tomb, but it became a womb.

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Yes, and Stephen is alive todayand swimming in a swimming pool
today.
So I'm just telling you whatyou're talking about carrying
revival.

We had a testimony, pastor Dan, it's testimony.
We had a testimony, we took atestimony, pastor Dan.
We had a testimony, we took atestimony into that service.
We had our grandchild thatnight playing that we weren't
supposed to have with us and wehad the picture that we showed
everybody.
And you know I'm not theeloquent speaker, I'm not this
one that can regurgitate theword in a great oratory way.

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But I've had an experience withthe Lord.
I've been on the mountain,that's right.
I got the fire and that's whatI love is I just go in and what
the Lord's got, I release it.
I believe him for it and I'm sothankful our life was changed.
Thank you for revival.

So thank you for helping people listening right
now to redefine.
Revival is not a drive to alocation and a service and then
you drive home.
Revival is an encounter withHoly Spirit that we've been
listening to.
That transforms us and changesus, and it should change us to
the degree that we now carrythat encounter and others get to

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experience it.
So it's a living thing that wenow carry that encounter?
Yes, and others get toexperience it.
Yes, so true, so it's a livingthing.
Yes, it's not a.
I met this moment.

I am changed and carrier now of the presence and
the levels of intensity.
The depth, the levels ofintensity continue to grow, yeah
, and increase.
That's right.
God continues to release more.
Yes in all of our lives as wepursue and I don't understand it
all.
He's God Sure.
I sure am enjoying it.

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I'm enjoying that life.

Well, we see that that's really the life of
Christ.
You know, for all thesecenturies they waited for his
coming.
There's people right nowwaiting for him to come.
There's people right nowbelieving that what we have they
want and they're waiting for it, just as they waited for Jesus
to come.
That's right.
So when Jesus came for histhree and a half years, he

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showed them what real revivalwas.
He showed them about thehealings, the miracles, the
signs and wonders.
He showed them who the realMessiah was.
He showed them who the realFather was.
He showed them who the realMessiah was.
He showed them who the realfather was.
He showed them who the realHoly Spirit was.
But then he told his disciples,after they experienced that go
up into Jerusalem and tarry uponhigh until the Holy Spirit
comes upon you.

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You know that word tarry meansis the word cathizo, and that
word cathizo means to be sittingin an expected position for a
move of God.

It's not just sitting back going.

Okay, god, if you want to do something, come
it's.
No, I'm in an expected positionbecause what God said he's
going to do and he's going to doit in me, yes.
And when you get that kind ofhunger, when you get that kind
of um stirring within yourspirit that you know there's
more than you are positioned nowfor more, but you have to have

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that hunger, that stir.
You know, I went to a revivalright after I got saved and I
had a bad car accident and myshoulder was all busted up and
this man was preaching and Ididn't believe in miracles and
he's healing people and he'spreaching on healing.
He came to me and he says doyou believe that by the power of
God I can heal you?
I said I don't know you.

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I said I can't tell what you'reable to do.
He said but do you believe theword of God?
I said absolutely.
He took his fist and he hit myshoulder and the first time I
fell out in the Holy Spirit.
I'm laying on the floor with astupor in my brain but a
spiritual encounter in my bodyand I'm laying there going what

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just happened?
When I got up, my shoulderwasn't healed, but my heart was,
because my heart was so hardtowards what I believed as false
religion and doctrine andapostate.
And you know, I don't want tobe taught something that's not
truth.
I want to experience truth.

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When I got up, my heart washealed from a stony heart.
Two days later, my shoulder washealed Because now I was
positioned to hear from the onewho wanted to do it.
Before I was looking at man,but now I'm looking at God.
That's right and God showed upAmen, so good.

So don't you think that's part of revival, the
healing?
Of the heart, the awakening ofthe heart.
Awaken from our slumber.
Awake awake, awake awake.

Scripture tells us , and then rise.

Yeah, rise up and when you look at that amazing
passage he was talking about inIsaiah 60, what I loved about
that is the picture of the gloryshining from us.
Sometimes, when we see it, itsounds like it's you know, the
glory shining on us.
But arise, my people, let yourlight shine for all the nations

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to see, for the glory of theLord is streaming from you, even
though it's darkness iscovering the earth and the
people of the earth.
But all the nations will cometo your light.
Even mighty kings will come toyour glory, and the glory of the
Lord is upon you.
Lift up your eyes and see yoursons and daughters.
Part of the signs of revival issons and daughters returning to
us.

That's right.

Prodigals coming back that's right If we would
arise, then they will arise fromtheir place.
I love the fact that he saysyour sons and daughters are
coming home to you from distantlands.
And one translation says yourdaughters will be carried to you
.
And I love that picture becausethere is even some of our kids
that can't even walk thatjourney.
But the Lord says they will becarried to you.
And I love that picture becausethere is even some of our kids

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that can't even walk thatjourney, but the Lord says they
will be carried to you.
That's right.
Brought to you.
There's going to be restoration.
I love that promise.
Part of the signs of revival isthat the hearts of the fathers
are turned again to their sonsand daughters and the hearts of
sons and daughters back to theirfathers and their mothers, of
course.
So that's a sign of revivalhappening in my life.

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And he changed his heart andthen his physical body came into
alignment, don't you?
That's right.

I love that God's so good.
Yeah, god's so good.
Let's talk about humility andrepentance and the role that
those play in revival.
I'm going to read from 2Chronicles 7, 14.
If my people who are called bymy name will humble themselves

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and pray and seek my face andturn from their wicked ways,
then, while I hear from heavenand will, I will forgive their
sin and I will heal their land.
Go ahead and read the nextverse I will forgive their sin
and I will heal their land.

Go ahead and read the next verse.

I will Now.
My eyes will be open and myears attentive to the prayers
offered in this place.

Wow.

Amen.

So the Lord even promised.
If you will do that, first partof that verse I will see in
here.

It's so true.

And Solomon did not know, when the fire went out
, what it was going to take toget back.

Right.

But God knew in a dream that if you would do
this, I'll do that.
That's all he asked.

If you'll do this.

I'll do that.

Yeah, now we can't bypass humility and repentance
when it comes to revival andawakening, and so in episode one
, pastor Dan referenced personalpreparation and just really
sense in my spirit there arepeople that they're not sure

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what that means, and so we wantto just talk about that a little
bit, what personal preparationfor revival looks like.
So who would like to just speakinto that for a moment?

I would just say I think the first act of my
humility is my identifying.
I need a fresh touch fromheaven.

I need more of God .

So humble to be in the humility component for me is
to go wait a minute, I can't.
My cup is really not that full,it's not as full as I thought.
So, lord, I am sorry that Ihave somehow gotten so busy
doing the work of the lord thatI wasn't spending time with the
lord.
And that humility to return tothe lord, humility to humble,

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bow down before seek his face,that's right.
I think that's a component thatevery listener um, because
there's someone listening rightnow who has been through
literally the ringer.
They've struggled so hard inwhat's been going on in their
life and revival to them justseems and sounds like a whole

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lot more work for them.
But it's the turning of theheart.

Yes.

Saying I do need more of you.
And when I do that, the Lord isnot there.
With a ruler slapping my handson all the things I've been
breaking, the rules I've beenbreaking.
He just encounters me and inthat encounter I find myself
relinquishing, repenting ofthings that have gotten in the

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way of me and him being inrelationship and then turning
away from that so I can turntowards him.
Oh, that's so good I believethere's a person right now who's
listening, who's like you know,I really want personal revival
and I just say to you the Lordhas been pursuing you harder
than you realize.
In fact, in the last weekyou've had individuals say

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things to you that's triggeredin your spirit, in your heart,
that God is there and wanting tohelp you.
But you've been so overwhelmedwith what's been going on and I
believe that listener is goingto reach out to you and reach
out to Rise Up and indicate Iheard that word and I did these
things that these pastorsstarted to talk about.
It's just turning your heartback towards the Lord, amen.

He's going to meet them.

And the circumstances that they're in
right now are not going to meetthem, and the circumstances that
they're in right now are notgoing to destroy them.
I want to encourage them to knowyour circumstances and your
revival you want is not forcircumstantial change.
The revival you want, that youneed is a heart change towards
the Lord.
So just come back again to himand visit the Lord, spend time

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with him and go ahead and snotand cry for a while on your
carpet.
It's okay, it'll clean up aftera while.
So the Lord is going to meetyou there.
There's a miracle waiting forthat person right now.

Amen, there's a miracle waiting for them.

Yes, we believe it, and it comes in just the
turning of their heart.

Yes, Lord.

For them to make a turn.

And for them to make a turn, and when they say I
don't know what to pray, Idon't know what to do, all
you've got to do is say Lord, Ineed you.
And when you cry out with thatdesperation, with that sincerity
Lord, I need you.

Say it one more time he comes on the scene.
You just made it easy.

Say it again Listen to what Pastor Chris is saying.
Just cry out, lord, I need you,and his presence is going to
come into the room where you are.
You're going to feel him, sensehim and he's going to begin to
move and work in your life.
And just talk to him like we'retalking to you right now in
this podcast.
Just talk to him and you willbegin to experience change and

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turn around in your life.

James says you have not because you ask not yes
, and all you have to do is ask.
I like what Isaiah said inIsaiah 44, 3.
He says if you turn to me, hesays the water of those who are
thirsty will become floods ondry ground.
And then he says I will pourout my spirit upon you.

That's right.

And so he's just waiting for you yes.
You know you're waiting for him.
Well, he's waiting for you.
You know the Bible says thatwhen they went up in that upper
room after Jesus showed thethree and a half years and they
sat in that expected position,their whole life was transformed
because they were in expectancy.
I just want to encouragewhoever it is that's listening
to be an expectancy that God isgoing to come to your house,

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like he did to Zacchaeus.

He made a personal invitation.

You know, god grew that tree years before
Zacchaeus ever got there and heput it in the middle of a street
that should have had it cutdown.
And Zacchaeus comes along,climbs up in the tree, and Jesus
sees him and says, zacchaeus,I'm coming to your house, amen.
And it changed his life.
Yeah, and God wants to changethe life of all of us because
we're all.

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You know.
The Bible says we're allworking out our salvation.
Yeah, we've not all gottenthere yet.

It's so simple.
I love that verse.
It just says when we draw nearto God, he draws near to us.

It's so simple we make it so hard.
So you've just indicated forthe listener and I hope you're
hearing this Pastor Chris istrying to say formulas are not
what God is looking for you tofulfill.

Yes.

You're saying draw near to him, say I need you and
he will encounter you.
Yes, is that what you're saying?
Yes, yes, say I need you, yeah,and he will encounter you.
Yes, is that what you're saying?
Yes?

And you said turn.

Turn.

Got to turn.
That's the part of humility.
If we don't turn, which is ahumble act, but when we turn,
it's humility, yeah.
And then that's when theopportunity for repentance comes
.

What does that repentance part look like,
Pastor Chris?

Well, it's that cry like the crying out of Lord I
need you, I've tried all ofthese things.
And then, of course, repentancewhen we turn to the Lord and he
begins to reveal things to us,what's going on in our lives.
That's part of the awakening.
We began to see what we didn'tsee in ourselves and that's when

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we can begin to repent and seewe're not as low as we need to
be.
In his presence, we begin tosee really the condition of our
heart, our lives, and that'swhere we can cry out to him and
say you know help.

So, if I'm hearing you correctly, you're saying
it's as easy as Lord.
I really missed it on this, or,lord, I got way too busy on
that.
Lord, I let this take firstplace in my eyes instead of what
your promises are.
And so, lord, I repent.
Sometimes we say I'm sorry, butI love the way you said the
word repent is Lord.

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I'm repenting.
I turn away from that practicedway of thinking and doing to
come back to the heart ofworship, come back to what your
word says you are and who youwill be in my life, so that
repentance is really a turning.
Yes, and then, if we repent,what does he do?

Well, he is faithful and just To forgive.

He comes rushing in.

Every repentance has a faithful forgiveness.
Now, most people, though,listening right now, don't
realize that the very moment werepent, that touches the heart
of God always, because the bloodis so precious to him.
That's right.
Forgiveness is already flowing,that's it right there.
So the promises, they areconnected.
They are connected by theprecious covenant of blood.

And the whole purpose of Jesus coming was to
bring that forgiveness, yes, torelease you from that.
You know, one of the things Isense too is that the scripture
tells us in 1 Corinthians 12,paul speaking you can't say to
the hand or foot I have no needof them, because they're all
valuable.
You know, some of you may besitting out there today thinking
that I have no value, I'm notworth anything, comparing

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yourself with other people.
Don't do that.
God created you.
God knows exactly where you are, he knows exactly what you're
going through and he knowsexactly the remedy that you need
.
And when you turn, when yourepent, when you call upon him,
he says that he's going to showyou great and mighty things you
do not know.

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And if that's not good, enoughif you read Paul's writings
there in 1 Corinthians 12, hecomes along and says it's not
for the greater ones, it's forthe weaker ones.
He said the whole purpose ofthe hand and feet is not the
value of what one has overanother, it's the value of what
you do have.
I'm going to give to the weakerones, because they're the ones

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that have more value, becausethey're the ones that are crying
out.
See, God's going to minister toyou from where you're at, not
from what you see someone elseis at, because God loves you
right where you are.
He wants to meet you there, evenas we speak.

Amen.

Can I say that I got such a sense in my spirit
listening, you know, to thesemen of God just talk about what
you know.
That part looks like there's anindividual.
I believe that's listeningright now.
The word rise up we've beentalking about.
The sense in the picture that Igot is that they have a
practiced way of praying.

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It seems like they either areon their knees or, you know,
prostrate just kind of down.
I felt like the Lord was sayingrise up.
With the word we've been using,rise up for them to practice
something different.
That humility for them would beto leave what has been what
they thought was the right wayfor them would be to leave what

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has been what they thought wasthe right way.
Rise up and stand as a son anda daughter of the Lord in his
presence, lift up their eyes,lift up their hands and repent
and become humble from theposition of sonship, standing
literally with heart liftedtowards the Lord.
So I just speak this word riseup in a new, practiced way of

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encountering the Lord he wantsto meet you in a fresh way.
Not that your kneeling was wrong, but this is a new moment for
you to rise up, stand, lift upyour eyes, lift up your hands
and let the countenance of theLord shine upon you.
Amen, and let the countenance ofthe Lord shine upon you.
In this moment and I reallybelieve that there's a person
listening who their knee Ibelieve it's knee could be knees

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is what I'm sensing there's ahealing going to happen in the
legs and knees that need to behealed.
I hear bone on bone rubbingagainst each other.
So, in this new practice wayand of just standing in his
presence, the Lord's going tobring healing and that humility
to do something fresh and new,amen, and just some new

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encounters with the Lord in thatrespect.
But I hear that prophetic wordrise up is really strong.
Rise up, do it.
Do something new and fresh, byunction of the Holy Spirit, of
course, but to do so Because,yes, sometimes we lay down
before the Lord and we thinkthat that's my practiced way of
humility, but I think the Lordwants us to, in humility, stand

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in sonship and encountersomething fresh and new.
So I just lay that on the tablefor the Lord to work in
someone's heart and see what youknow.
You, gentlemen, would judgethat in this moment, but there's
something really sweet aboutrise up in new humility and new
humility.
It looks it's going to lookdifferent for sure.

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But nonetheless is it humility,surrender and really repentance
and then encounter rev and avisitation of the Lord.
It's just a new day.
The word rise up just keepssinging in my spirit and I won't
get a piano out and start toplay it.

Well, I really believe that we need to pray
over our listeners.
We've talked about a lot oflayers of revival and we don't
want to stop without praying, solet's just conclude this
interview with some prayer overour listeners.
We'll just have an open time ifone or two people want to pray,
and then I'll close when Ithink we're ready.

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Okay, thank you.
Thank you, lord.

Father, I thank you that the heavens are open.
I thank you that you poured outyour Holy Spirit so that we
would have an encounter with you.
I thank you, Father God, thatthe listeners that are hearing
right now are hearing by theSpirit.
And you are touching theirhearts.
You're touching theirsituations.
You're touching theircircumstances.
You're touching their cry.
Yes, lord, father, when thechildren of Israel cried out,

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you heard their cry.
And you sent the answer.

Well.

Father, hear their cry tonight.
Hear their cry for a deeperwalk with you.
Hear their cry of their heartthat is broken.
Hear their cry of theirafflictions.
Hear their cry of theirsituations that they're facing,
even as we speak, and move.
Stretch out I like what Peterand John said even as we speak
and move, stretch out.
I like what Peter and John said, stretch out thy hand and heal

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thy servants and give themboldness to turn to the things
of you.
We just know, lord God, thatyou're ministering to many
tonight, and those that FatherGod are hearing or receiving,
and those who are receiving,will continue to help others do
the same.

Thank you, lord, thank you, thank you that the
reward of revival has beenprayed by a grandmother and a
grandfather and thatgenerational blessing yes.
I'm talking about generationalblessings, and intercession is
coming now upon these listenersand those who will gather even

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in the near future, here in thisconference in August.
Lord, I thank you that there isa generational blessing being
released from those familymembers who have prayed for a
move of God in their childrenand grandchildren and
great-grandchildren's lives.
So I set my faith in agreementwith them for that.
And that surrender, that happenswhere the encounter is manifest

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in your presence, changesforever.
Yes, lord, a life, a family.

Thank you, Jesus, Thank you.

Jesus In the book of Acts.
Peter and John was going to thetemple to pray and they came
upon a lame man.
They said silver and gold.
I do not have but this that Ihave, I give to you, and so many
of us are looking for a lot ofdifferent things in this world
to provide the needs that wehave, and my prayer tonight for

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our listeners is that those ofus that are around this table
right now, this podcast, thisthat we have, we're given to you
through the Holy.
Spirit of God and impartation.
We are dispersing in the spiritrevival and awakening to you
right now.

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You're hearing our voice butyou're experiencing his spirit.
Whether you're on your couch,in your bedroom, where you're at
at your kitchen table, whereverthat may be, the spirit of God
is invading you.
That they reached down.
Look that man in the eye.
They lifted him up.
He was totally healed.
He was walking, leaping andpraising God, and so I thank you

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that that is happening rightnow.
You've had an urgency.
You have had a desperation.
Right now, you've had anurgency.
You have had a desperation.
You've been listening to us andyou've said I've never
experienced what these men haveexperienced.
Well, you're experiencing now.
There is a release in thespirit and it's in your house,
and it's not just in your house.
He said out of your belly shallflow rivers of living water,

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and you're sensing the rivers ofliving water.
And you're sensing the riversof living water refreshing you,
renewing you.
And he said he would send hisfire, and so I just pray that
you would be fired up about whatGod's doing in your life, what
you've heard through thispodcast, and just receive what
the spirit of God is.
Don't be afraid of it, don't runfrom it.

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Embrace it.
Let it change you, let ittransform you.
Let it change you, let ittransform you, let it renew you,
let it redeem you, let itrevive you.
Just let it set you on fire andyou may not understand
everything about it.
But get with your friends, getwith your church, get with
people that you know and say,hey, I had an experience.
I was listening to a podcastwith these guys and God came

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down and and touched me right inmy, in my front room, right
right in the bathroom, rightwhere I was.
I feel different, don't knowwhat it is.
That's revival, that'sawakening, that's renewal.

And take it to your work.

Take it to your family, take it to your church,
take it to your community.
Rise up, rise up in the spiritof God.
I just pray that it's releasedon our listeners in the name of.
Jesus.
Thank you Jesus, thank you Lord.

Thank you, jesus, and it is in your holy, holy,
holy name, jesus, that we praythese things Amen, amen.
Thank you, pastor Dave, pastorDM, pastor Chris, thank you so
much for being here.

Thanks for having us.
Thanks, God bless you.
Thank you listeners.

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The purpose of our podcast isto glorify God and encourage all
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May God's grace and peace bewith you all through Jesus

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Christ, our Lord.

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