Calvin "Big Fridge" Bryant, Larry Turnley, & Robert Sherrill Share Their Stories | It’s Up There Podcast - ITS UP THERE PODCAST W/LOONEY

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo yo, yo, yo yo. Welcome to us Up There podcast.
I am your active and attractive host for another episode
of the fastest growing podcasts in the market right now.
Listen today, I got home court advantage on you suckers.
Let's start there. I'm having home court advantage. We are
in Nashville, Tennessee. I want to extend my platform to

(00:22):
some brothers that I feel as though deserve to be
seen by everybody that views me. So this is a
PSA to all my buddies, all my audience. If you
come through Nashville. Most likely I'm not gonna be there
because I'm hustling. But these are the individuals I think
you should tap in with. I'm gonna let these individuals

(00:43):
tell you a little bit about themselves today. We're gonna
have a conversation about a multitude of things. We're gonna
start with my brother Fridge bro. Let them know who
you are a little brief story of what you've been
through and what you got coming.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
My name is Calvin or Big Freeze brant Or, Nashville, Tennessee.
Born and raised UH South Nashville, u S. Grew up
a start football player. UH went to college. UH received
athletic scholarship from Tennessee State University.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
UH.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
While in college, I was charged with a drug free
schools on that made me like a national headline for
UH for the law and UH went to prison for
ten and a half years. UH was released UH five
years early due to my UH case being overturned by
federal judge. Since I been out, you know, I started
my own nonprofit organization, Positive in the City Kids being

(01:41):
in the community. UH out here trying to just I
mean lead the way. I'm an author now, a father
of three, and you know, just pushing, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
And we gonna get into some of the book Game two.
We was just talking about and my my next brother
is Robert. Let him know what's going on with you?
My brother.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Yeah, I'm UH Robert Scheryl Nashal native, you know, come
out of Dodd City projects, men on my mom so
I was thirteen, didn't make it out of the eighth grade.
Trying to kind of succumb to my environment, you know,
started selling drugs, you know, during the game, did the
did the normal thing that we do in our communities
when we're I parvished, ended up in and out of

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juvenile ended up going to prison for five years, was released,
you know, trying to pick the pieces of my life
back up, you know, trying to you know, find a
job and find housing and all of that. And I
ended up starting a multi million dollar cleaning company by
the name of Imperial Cleaning Systems. My author as well

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h two books. I started two nonprofits. One impact You
with Outreach. We partnered with jelly Roll. We raised close
to a million dollars. So we're doing a lot of
work in the national community with that. And then by
me getting out, you know kind of you know, doing
the right thing with my life. Man, God honored me,
and I was a afforded an opportunity man, to be

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a part to be partnered by the governor of Tennessee
and also the President of the United States, making me
the only person in the US history that received both.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, so that's big. We're gonna get into that with
that platform. Man.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
I just wanted to help reap, you know, return citizens.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Man.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
So I got a program that's inside of all the
state prisons and I teach men and women how to
get out and be successful.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's dope. That's dope. And my next homeboy, my brother LT.
Let him know about yourself, my brother, get closer to
the mark.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
My name El T.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Larr Returnly, which LT is just my initials South Nashville
h slash North Nashville because I've been living out of
North Nashville for about thirty years. Born and raised here
in Nashville, you know, coming up in j C. Napor,
which I was a resident there for eighteen years, which

(03:53):
is a high poverty restricting area and a various dangerous,
very dangerous environment. And growing up in Jacon Naples for
eighteen years, father incarcerated my whole childhood as well as
most of my adult life. You know, I succumbed to,
you know, just the environment of my community, of the

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conditions of my community, which ultimately led me to going
to prison. I had several, you know, several incidents too
involving law enforcement and ultimately led to me getting sentenced
to life in prison for drug distribution in nineteen ninety seven,

(04:39):
and after doing twenty summers in federal prison, you know,
I was kicked out in twenty sixteen with a meta
release and you know, started an angry Thanksgiving Day dinner
as well as annual Christmas cold.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Drive in my community.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
And all these are from, you know, just the community
believing in me and donations to me because I never
had five to one C three or a nonprofit. It's
just people believing in my change in which allowed me
to be eight years strong pushing it.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
So thank you for your platform, brother.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Nah for sure man. And you know, I heard a
couple of dudes that I knew. I don't know if
it's true or not, but they said they yo man
when Alt got out, just for him being a real
when I just shot him something, you know. And I
think when real ones are introduced back into society, that
should be a red carpet of sorts rolled out for

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those gentlemen. How will y'all introduce back to your neighborhoods?
Because what I always find interesting is it's always the
guys that seem to go to jail that comes back
with that spirit of fixing this thing. It'll be the
guys that's out there that won't facilitate anything to give
back to the hood. But how do you guys go

(05:58):
do twenty ten to five, come out and then go
back to those same areas and still be familiar enough
with that to position yourself as a leader still.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Oh. When I got out, man, you know, it was
a national headline. I was front page Tennessee and news
channels and everything. So I always get my city credit.
I feel like my city stood over meat, like Philly
stood over me, you feel I'm saying. So, I got
a lot of love in the community.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Man.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
It was it. It was out of c it was
out of control, man. So you know, it was a
lot of love in the community. I did get a
lot of hand shots, man. People was there for me.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
And one thing I did notice that was kind of
surprising to me that didn't nothing change in the neighborhood.
So you know, the same blocks that I stood on
and called drug free school zones, it was still people
out there doing the same thing I was doing. So
not only do you get accepted, you see that ain't
nothing changed.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Bro, But why do they What what makes them? Guys
still see you as somebody that can come in facilitate
anything right sometimes, you know, I don't think that happens
to every person. You see what I'm saying. I think
we're dealing with three people in my town. And I
also ask for any of you podcast dudes to try

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to pull this together in your town. I'm almost I'm
almost one hundred percent sure you can't do this. Any
one of you podcasts do now, I'm almost one hundred
percent sure you can't do this. And that don't exclude
nobody and everybody know. I got love and respect for y'all.
But this is a power move by some guys that
been through some things reaching your city and let me

(07:34):
see you do that put some people on the platform
that deserve a platform. You dig what I'm saying, all
of you dudes that's looking, But what makes those people
still see you as somebody that is still in that
coach like position, right cause some people don't get that. Bro.
Like ah, y'all, y'all talk to me about that, Like
some people don't get that. Yo. He get out of

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this old school bluish life, bluish chans like we ain't
fucking with.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
I think you got something to do it.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
You know, people watching you to see how you're gonna
react to being released. You know what I'm saying, All
you're gonna go back to the old lifestyle. You know
what I'm saying, What you're gonna do? People watch you
for a while just to see how you're gonna deal
with not having no money and being the man that
you that you will. You know that you wasn't long
time ago. You know what I'm saying, a lot of
people we get out we ain't got no money.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
You know what I'm saying. I got out with no money.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
That money was gone.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
You feel me, Fizz took all of that, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
So I think along with getting out and then people
seeing what you do is kind of what makes certain
people gravitate towards you. You know, but you, I mean,
you get out like I pull up our north, I say,
I hollereday everybody, but I don't stay long because hey,
I can't get caught up.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
You feel me, and and you know what I'm saying,
no situation.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Right because ain't nobody. Can't nobody get you out of it?
What about you? To what you think?

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Well, I would say to your question about you know,
when you get out, people you know hitting your hand
or I don't know who that individual told you that
they gave me something, but very few gave me something.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
And that's what I needed to hear, because go ahead.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Here, I made the ultimate sacrifice, you know what I'm saying,
because I was sentenced to life, you know what I'm saying.
And all my crew stayed on street, you know what
I'm saying, all of them. I got sentence with some
people from California and basically, yeah, California. So just to
get out and know the work I put in on

(09:25):
the inside as well as you know what I'm saying
on the street, and then get out and I'm at
a temp service, you know what I'm saying. You know,
I started from all the way at the bottom, and
you know, maybe I was gone too long twenty summers.
You know, to what, it's a whole new generation out
here of whether people in the streets, most people came
up in my era, you know what I'm saying, inconcrated

(09:46):
or most of them still doing the same thing when
I got out, went to those corners and see them
still just doing the same thing twenty years later. So
and they was looking for me to you know, let's
play ball again, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
What now, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
I came out on a mission, and you know, we'll
elaborate a little bit.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
More on it, right sure.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
And that's I'm so glad you said, because dudes, throw
that ship around too, like they're giving these real niggas
or people that been through hell nah nah hit that
nigga like I'm a real one. Like it's like they're
trying to get over on you or something. I don't
know what that's about.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Don't get a twisted Let's get some understood. They would
much rather give you some work than money. So you
know what I mean, when you get out of you're
doing the right thing, it's gonna be limited to who
really messed with you. But if they could throw some
work on you or something like that, it's different. Right,
So when you've really proven that you're really doing it,
you're gonna really get it the hard way though. Right.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
That's crazy though to be see, because on one side,
we'll talk about the fact that after being someone that's
stood on business that have to come out and hit
the tempt serve. That's a mean, mean game plan, my nigga.
That's mean right there. But on the other side, I
would think that some of these got come home still

(11:01):
with a bravado from what they have done in prison, right,
whether they still been kind of active in prison that
still kind of lives on the street where it's like
he still got a gangster card a little bit when
he come home versus when y'all come home. They know
y'all built like that. But to see you change, what
is that reception? Do people believe that? Are people?

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Really?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Does it take a long time for people to adjust
to y'all saying like I ain't on that no more?
Or was it well received?

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Hell?

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:31):
I mean you know people you got a name, people like,
oh that nigga ain't no way he getting you know
what I'm saying? He doing that cleaning their pain like that. Shit,
I'm a million dollar jenital for real. I ain't go
back to the streets, you know what I'm saying. But
there are people and I've heard like, man that Nigga
still doing something on the low, you know what I'm saying.
I think that's just a perception, especially if you get

(11:52):
out and don't go back, because so many people do so,
you know. But yeah, man, I just was staying true
to what like I was. I was on a mission.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Man.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
I got five girls, man, and I'm trying to really
impact our community in a positive.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Way, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
And that's what you know, I think us having these
conversations is good because these people have to know who
y'all are, what y'all stood for, to respect y'all word
in the present right. And I think that people who
are watching y'all have to be savvy enough to understand
that sometimes when you deal with these stories, it ain't
that you are glorifying them, but you are putting your

(12:25):
receipts on the table, so these youngsters know exactly which
way to go. These are marching orders. This ain't just
niggas talking, you know what I'm saying. And so I think,
you know, I think the audience is savvy enough. But
I want to put that on the record for anyone
that just rolls past this and you may see us
talk about jail, or you may see us talk about
certain things and crack a smile. It ain't because it's funny.

(12:48):
It's because it's some brothers made it through it, you
know what I mean. So I just want to be
clear about that. But but yeah, man, So we were
talking about a couple of different things. One was the
meek meal thing, you know, with the media landscape, and
just how we got to build each other up to
be able to you know, I was telling big facts.
I'm like, yo, if a girl disrespect me, I don't

(13:10):
put my hands on a girl. I have a girl
that address a woman, right, I got an elder addresser. Elder,
you know what I'm saying. And so it's the same
in business. You don't send a rapper for a media guy.
It's a mistake to do that. It's just it don't
mix because you can't win. What will happen is you
all tweet and he'll go live for five hours if

(13:32):
he done for four and a half of me, if
he get thirty good minutes, Yeah, it's grays. You see
what I'm saying. And so we have to start pouring
into the business in a way where it builds up
other voices. We were talking about that and being homeless.
What do y'all think contributes to someone being homeless in
twenty twenty four in Nashville in particular?

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Oh well, I would say being a justice impacted individual.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
So well, quote convicted felon.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
You know you're getting out of prison, Like I said,
when I got out, I got kicked out, man a
twenty years.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I got to meet the release I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
I still had three more years left on my sentence,
three and they came out dope. Hey, the course just
granted your motion. You got two hours to get out
of this compound. How you trying to leave? You know
what I'm saying, I'm like shooting.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
What's the fastest?

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Wait? Like shooting? They like, you can have your people
come down here. I'm in Talladega, Alabama. You know what
I'm saying, You have your people drive from Nasville to Talladega.
Or you can get on the city bus and we
will give you a ticket and you can take the
city bus.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Take you six days.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Give me the no, the city bus was the fastest.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
So it's gonna take three hours for my people to
come down there and then three for me to get
when I get on city bus.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
So I didn't tell nobody.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
I was one told one person I was coming home,
and I surprised did everybody else? But getting kicked out
after twenty years, you know, was nothing in place for
people who receive the benefit of the drug minus two
or the crack law for as no type of mental
health treatment. You know what I'm saying. I did twenty
and got kicked out. Didn't have no opportunity and no

(15:13):
pre release classes or nothing. It's just I hope you
did the right thing during that dugs.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
So a person get out under those conditions. And imagine
a person getting out and they did five years in
a hole, you know what I'm saying, and they got
to meet released.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
You talking about somebody who's.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Not been up under some extreme mental illness five years
and a whole you kick him out on the street.
That's how you need become, you know what I'm saying,
homeless because your people don't understand you. These people who
got the resources don't understand you. You don't even know
what the.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Hell going on. And it's twenty that's a whole new city.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yes, and that's technology, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
What I'm saying. So yeah, that's how you can be homeless.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
And the man set in prison is different than the
man set in the free world because.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
You didn't even get a no buffer, nothing, just straight
out And I'm still deepprogramming prison. Uh, I would say,
just just uh prison business. You know what I'm saying.
The way that you.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Follow accountable your words bune.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
So if you say something to me, you know what
I'm saying, you know, you know, because it's life of
death in there ain't no middle ground.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
So you gotta know, do I want to argle with
this dude?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Cause this auger can turn into a death pending the
death pending, you know what I'm saying. So you got
to know how to navigate and being out here where
social media folks say anything. You know what I'm saying,
and it ain't no consequences.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
You know what I'm saying. You know, you got to
hold yourself.

Speaker 4 (16:40):

Speaker 1 (16:40):
To what apple Wash went off? Apple Washing went off?
I said, Man, I know he ain't doing nothing to me, man,
And I know these boys are laid down. If you
hit him hard enough, Man, you hit the boars, they
are laid down. I ain't never laying down. Man. I'm
a warrior for real, and they doing me like that. So, boy,

(17:01):
I know what you're talking about. That's a that's a
fucked up thing.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Man.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
But like in prison, prison politics is so these people
on the internet love prison politics. My dude, Dad, I'm
talking about dudes make hundreds of thousands talking prison politics.
You see what I'm saying, Because people want to know
what is it like? Man? What the hell say what?

(17:25):
You know what I'm saying? They wondering. And what that
does is it lights your room up for people to
come in and see what you're about. Because you standing
in the dark room hollering that positive talk. It's dark
in there. Somebody something got to cut the light on
in there. And these people with this short frequency on

(17:47):
this internet. Man, we gotta find a way to put
the medicine in the candy, you know what I mean.
But so you went fed, you went both y'all went fed.
You went sta Yeah you what bother you?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I mean, what's crazy is like when you appeal your
case to a certain level, we go up to the
as far as judges federal courts who let me out.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Okay, okay, so yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, cool, okay, damn
so the federal prison. That's just that's the hell.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Of a thing. Different time at c c A two.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, that's dying there ce c c Aye. That ain't
that was It was a little bit of jungle though.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
How long you do dying up? And c c A
did ju swim were rocking and rolling back in the nineties,
they were dying. Yeah, yeah, it was going there when
a couple of people dinging down, Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
The jungle.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, people don't know that man, but that said Nashvia.
They respect that. Like what was like, what was it
like O j unit for y'all whoever went, did you
get on? You ain't going so your first time going.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
To Jim, I went straight straight to the kiss.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Dang. Well, it was just like being in the hood,
you know what I'm saying. Cause I was in eighth unit.
Then I stayed in eight unit for I said, a
couple of months. Then I went on the short haul.
You know what I'm saying. While working with the job,
your with a job, you know, work released gud. You know.
I had good lawyers, so he had me do my
tam down there. So I'm getting street clothes in wearing

(19:24):
you know what I'm saying, all my jersey, you know,
just being able to just you know, enjoy yourself. Yeah,
people pull up on dudes, jobs, drop off whatever, you
know what I'm saying, and shure, I'm just living like
a king down there and still fighting on shore on
the shore hause you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
You know, it were going down though, it put dangers
down there.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
It was the same thing like with tav Man. So
I went to tak.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, I remember that for the look nick I robbed.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
The police when I was a kid, You feel what
I'm saying. I got a two years in determined sentence,
so I was up taff and it's really the same.
You know, that's when I really got in the banging.
And then you know, understanding all of that, the nuances
of that, and then you you locked up with people
from all over the state, Chattanoogas, you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Wand Hells Tall all that ship with the young niggas was. Yeah,
that's back when the young niggas run wild. Everybody everybody
end up going to prison in them. Yeah. But but
see when you hit Charles the White talk about where
he went, that's really like that. Yeah, that's them ships
where it's like Uhland Hells Yeah, yeah, thatation dom seven

(20:30):
days and you go and then you go and get
your blues.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
I mean it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
I mean that your toboggan, your boots and then they
sing you on it like and number sixteen.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, it was different.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
But niggas can get out of Woodland. Hell nigga run
up out there, motherfucker. I remember niggas was escaping ship.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
They was, I'll be mentioning one of the kids.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Man, yeah, yeah, what they gotta do better, y'all, y'all
don't escape it.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
But it's just back then, was just now. I can't
tell you don't escape that though I'm gonna keep it
gainst and you tell them what whatever you want. But
I can't say, don't escape the confines of that little
system ship. I can't tell you to sit there and
buy you dig that's me my voice two power for
the lay down, like.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Just know the consequences, right, No, it's consequences because.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Where they escape where people don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Even if you running, if you fleeing from your car,
that's that's considered escape in the face, and that's a
violent The fence well to stop you from going to accounts.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
So that was my that was why I needed to party.
I had a felon escape on my record. I had
a violent it was considered a violent crime.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
See, this is the game. So here we go.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
If we go, even I have the house, like when
if you I stepped down from Taff and went to
Plumb Street and now Natural Transition Center is what it
was called. The little group I ran from there. They
called me when I was eighteen, they charging munichs.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So so this is how it come at the hunter. Really,
Like when I was sentenced to seventeen years. At one hundred,
I was still in the count of jail. They let
me go with no handcuffs, no nothing to my d
at a funeral, everybody at the funeral like man run,
I said, Nah, Man, I can't put that calis shame
on my pops. But what the way it came back
the good car on me was when I got to

(22:11):
the politition, I knocked down them years. When you get
under ten years, you can start getting out on work release. Now,
being in the PENITENTI walking down Murphisburg Road, Gallatin Road
and Dickerson Roll, that's heavy to a nigga. But guess
what if you got any juvenile state, Hey, if you
got any escape history, you gotta getting on their work crew.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
So you know these little kids like I tell them
why I work at full time. Say, look, y'all need
to stop running from these little six months and three
months because with the lifestyle y'all living, y'all going to
the penitential.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Right, So if you go.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
To the politition, you ever escaped at a juvenile anything,
you're not getting outside that gate.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
And that's important to know. And so what I and
basically what I'm saying is and so we're speaking from
two different perspectives, y'all. Perspective is we we victim to
the system. We don't feel victim to what all these
niggas trying to out small. So we know what the
system is and ain't no moving the system. You got

(23:04):
to work within that motherfucker. And so running when they
catch you could be an issue. My thing is said,
the whole system is flawed. You see what I'm saying.
That's my thing. That's why I'm saying, Yo, man, they
got this is sixteen year old little boy they got
out here that may mam and them may be on drugs. Like,
get that little nigga some help. Y'all got him at

(23:24):
Woodland Hill and he fighting every day because everybody at
each other up this motherfucker. You see what I'm saying,
And it's like, so I think that's why that's why
I think both of our narratives live. But it's important
because you work with the juvenile, y'all work with these kids.
So it's important that they know like you said, no,
the consequence twenty years from now.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Because I'm like, if you know the rules to spades,
you know the rules of dominoes, but you don't know
the rules to the game that you win. You know
what I'm saying. You don't know the law, then that's
on you. You know what I'm saying, because if you
know all even basketball football, you know the rules all that,
but you don't know the rules.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Shit, you ain't playing. You got all the rules this
shit you ain't playing. You know what they're doing the basketball.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Then you know the legal turn the ignorance of the
law is not excuting.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
And boy, they will get you in that courtroom and
man get the throwing the words around up in that
main and hat you looking like mane, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I would tell him, my homeboy, like my homeboys is
the FIDS got him on a constructive position right now,
got him facing a life centers. It's right, and he
got it fucked up by the timetable thing back in
the day where you take a number here and then
you wherever you meet at.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
That's the number, bro.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
That's how the fair sentence you broke. Literally the guidelines
is crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
But see, here's the thing his cole defending was a broad.
He was fucking with the broad kind of told on him.
See you know, and I can speak on it because
she's dead now. But but what I'm trying to figure
out is with these cases, they still prosecute and him
and she, and she was the person that said we
got guns and ship in the house. She ain't even

(25:06):
here no more. And the FI is still moving with that.
So I'm saying that I don't know how strong it is, bro.
So he going all the way, he going all the way.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, you know he needs no law.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yes, I told him constructive possession, don't necessarily. I don't
know what it gets funny.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Through that because what happened with my.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
K I'm just keeping it real heat. And I know
what he's thinking. He thinking my partner got some real paper.
And he know, if he's watching this, we ain't talked
about this, but I know he thinking, my boy got
some real paper. So he'll try to get me back
on the pill if I do crash out. And you
know I'm saying though, I'm telling him pay attention now,

(25:46):
though you know what I'm saying, because it's serious, bro.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
But he facing the al for that.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's bullshit. But they got something called unavailability of a witness.
That means that if she ever made a statement or something,
they can use that.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
And she done made a statement.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, they can use that even if she's not
prison You see what I'm saying, which he had to
fight it on a pill. I had to fight on
a pill. Like the second time. Dude showed up on
men in the first time in my trial and testified,
so I got a hung jered because he was in jail.
The jered probably looked at him like, man, he ain't
no better him. The second time, I ain't even trying
to find them. They used a detective to get on
the stand and use his testimony for the first trial.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
To say that's what he meant, that's.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
What he meant.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
And so what my fight was, I can't even cross
his zaba, my witness, so yo boy can't even cross
his zamin hull floyda. But they make things hard for
us because guess what, so many of us tap out.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Right, And that's what I was telling him, But he
had Jody Bell and Jodah was trying to tell him tap.
He was saying, I ain't tapping. They don't got nothing.
I ain't live there, I wasn't on no lease. They
don't got nothing. I ain't tapping for that.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Man.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
You know what's frustrating, man, just to think looking at
our previous mayor. Man, she got caught up in some stuff, right,
and she went to court. What's funny is as part
of her plea was that she get expungement. And I
can remember going to courting knowing people and it was
just cop out expungement act.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
We never an option, but it was loud a whole time.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Tell me, you give me five years probation, I finish
it and I don't automatically get exposed. So here we
are copping and stuff that was gonna have a lot
of collateral consequences on down the line that we're still
paying for and we are done paid our debt to society.
That that's something I don't understand right.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
There's a lingering there's a lingering consequence on a guilty plea,
on taking responsibility in this country. There's a lingering consequence
that's on top of that. Ain't that crazy? You supposed
to be able to say, yo, I did that, I'll
pay for that. You dig that's supposed to be that

(27:48):
on that we're still talking years down the road, that she's.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
Never heard of expungement.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Bro, I never knew anybody that copped out in part
of their plea wasn't.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
And see it go never and it goes back to
as you speaking on earlier narrative. See the narrative is
you pay your debt to society, but the truth feels
you never pee. You know what I'm saying, And that's
what the fight is. The fight is, you know what
I'm saying, us as just as impacted people, convicted, felons,

(28:20):
directly impacted, whatever you want to call it. You know
what I'm saying, it's us being reintegrated back into society.
We need a new integration and a new integration that
is integrating us back in.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
So when you spoke.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
On earlier saying, I think you mentioned what do we
do to get our faces out there or whatever? You
know what I'm saying, or for people to recognize us
since we came home. That's the problem is the right
people don't want to recognize us. They see what we're doing,
and the right people to keep in power. Y'all see
what we're doing, But who is trying to elevate us.

(28:56):
You know what I'm saying. And Trump showed us what
you can do with power, exactly know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
But what are y'all gonna do with the power?

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Y'all goat? You know what I'm saying, Because if you
was elected, then you've been given some type of power.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
So how you're gonna utilize it?

Speaker 4 (29:10):
You can brain me, Robert Bee Fridge and anybody who's
out of doing the right thing. If you an elected official,
let us be your intern, right, you know what I'm saying.
Let us put a new face or a new narrative
out there as opposed to the person you spoke on,
whether you showed somebody outside Nashary, you just shot apartment conflict,
kill somebody. See, they'll let that run all day, but

(29:32):
they ain't gonna push us out there.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Eat.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
We got to put our store rut there and make
people respect our store.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
But that's what's happening now. I got a bigger platform
than all limp sup you know what I say't time?
Why not? And my job is I got to integrate
with y'all on yall missions. Because my mission I shut
the whole house down to go get this money. I
lost my bitch and everything bout this paper home like
I went on a real mission by this shit. But

(30:00):
I got it now, you see what I'm saying. So
now my job is I gotta integrate back into my hood.
I left my entire Everybody that know me don't know
what's going on with me. I had to leave everybody
to make this happen. My job now is to integrate
back and pulling that over here because I found out
along the way, ain't nobody doing nothing for nothing. They

(30:22):
don't give a fuck. Water nigga done all the street
shit nothing That shit don't mean they don't give a fuck.
So we gotta do it ourselves. That's the same argument
we just was talking about with Meek Me and them.
It ain't that we gotta say, come on, academics, now
you go on a bit far the grass. We got
to depend on the grass to grow. That's what the

(30:42):
grass gonna do. You see. We gotta figure out lawn
or so at our job is to My job is
to integrate this and figure out because at some point
we had these kind of conversations, but we gotta make
content around this time. We got to turn this town
to a content town. You see what I'm saying. More

(31:04):
than just because everybody copying me now with the podcast thing,
and I salute them, you know, do your thing, you dig,
but we need content. The podcast thing I got in
a choke hold. You can go ahead, everybody, everybody at
wants try do your thing. But whoever go do content?
They the ones that I think there's an opportunity there for. Yeah,

(31:29):
there's a lane for content with us with me, when
I pop in the town with Fridge, with Alta, with
all us together, like we go out to the such
and such Nasvia sures that or with the kids or
this or that, there's an opportunity for that, you know
what I'm saying. So our job is to get savvage
with this, you know, because nobody's coming to help the

(31:49):
same way when you was in prison. What will happen
is one day that just gonna be the same way.
What's for you in prison? You head down, been working
that whole time. Hey, your turn.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
That's all man.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
We can't I just feel like man on some real shit. Like, bro,
we can't do nothing until we understand our economic power,
until we unlearned and relearn our perspectives on what to
do with money. Bro, we consume us, Bro, yes, we
consume us. One point, man, we collectively what a trillion dollars.

(32:21):
I just argue with if we was a state, if
we was a country, we will be the number sixteenth
richest country. Wait a minute, we spend more than any
other race, bro, And wonder why we in these predicaments.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Because whether you want some put on the political end
and we go.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Bro, these lobbies.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
You gotta pay these lobbies to go argue your point
to these senators and people.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Man, this is this is the game.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
But if we ain't got no paper, we're down here fighting.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Man.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
But bang it and opt this and opt that. Bro,
we ain't got enough money to beef with each other.
We don't got enough money to beef.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Man.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
That's all I'm trying to figure out.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
How we're gonna bring this economic empowerment to our neighbor
is to get people to understand. Listen, man, you know
eyby talking about get the bag, get the bag, But
how we gonna keep the bag and then pass the
bag on?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Right? The thing is, we gotta open up our avenues
of this shit. You know what I'm saying, That's why
I was just saying, with all set, he just went
up and wallow on them. We got to do that
in Nashville. A couple of the rappers owe me that.
You know what I'm saying, We cool enough for y'all
to help these children in Nashville. You know what I mean.
Y'all writing this South anyway, we all doing big business.
We know what this is. We earn us in this business.

(33:31):
You know what I'm saying. Let's keep it real like
Nashville got children need help, you know what I mean.
So it's just a it's a it's a marriage that
has to happen. But we gotta get savage with content creation, bro.
We gotta we gotta do more than just people copy
each other and sit with the same people and ask
the same questions like. We gotta get crafty, bro.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
And I think the promoters got an obligation too, you
know what I'm saying. When they do bring them down
through that, they got to know them and be able
to just like you was able to pull us into
the conversation.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
They know who, they know who doing what in this city.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
When they bring these these people down here, they need
to know what I'm saying, put some responsibility on.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
There's what's to do that. Here's what's happening. Though they
don't got no pull. De rap niggas ain't listening to
these niggas. D niggas is four people deep far as
meaning they ain't even talking to the rapper friend. They
talking to some nigga that's just on the team. So
they can get him here because you paid right, they'll
get him to the club. But they ain't having no pull,

(34:32):
whereas like a lot of them. Some of them could,
but I don't see them having the kind of pull
to say, yo, man, stop by such and such. High
let the kids.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Man, anytime you got control of somebody's safety, you got pulled.
But it's just you.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
But they ain't got controlling they own. They ain't got
control over their own safety. They don't even look at
it like that.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
But what I'm saying here, if you bring a stranger
to your city to a club, you know what I'm saying.
They depending on you to keep them.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Saying this is good game. Y'all take this subpectly.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
So whether you're a promoter or not, you got leverage.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's just you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
But they booge it off. You might say, Man, I
need you to stop being it. We ain't even doing nothing.
I don't know what the nigga doing. Man, give them
their money back.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
Shoot these young kids the one provides.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Man.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Listen, man, these young kids.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Man is the one buying this music and buying all
this and buying Like, how can you not, man? How
can they not be on your conscious?

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Man?

Speaker 6 (35:27):
If you done made it, hence me bro like, I
would be admissed. But I could move to the suburbs.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Bro, And I don't have to and cut myself off
from the community of Nashville and be alright, my money made.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
I'm good.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
But that rest on your conscience, man, And I don't understand.
If we made it out of the hood and this
is your demographical people, of your customer base, why would
it not be on your conscience to go back?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
And you know what, I don't think it's in fridge.
I'm gonna ask you because I know you got some,
but I don't think it's I think if the kids
is the narrative, then that's one thing, right. They can
get that done. I think you might get the kid
thing done. But when we talk about the grown men, thing.
I think it gets slippery for the rap niggas. They

(36:12):
be scary and shit man, and then it's about who
you come with. Like I can get some of my
homies to come and pull up to a backstreet over here,
because the kind of mindset they got about the person
I am, they say were good. If we wit loom,
we should be good. He ain't show us to will right,
So I'm saying some people don't have that kind of leverage.

(36:33):
Way they even look at these guys like I'm going
nowhere with them, were pulling up to that club, And
that's how we doing, you know what I'm saying, Like
we ain't even talking brou Sometimes this business operates on
a very thin layer, bro, where it's like, say, y'all
my crew. It can be somebody booking me through your people.

(36:56):
So they are three or four people away from me.
He thing. They don't even get to me. They just saying,
some nigga done that want to holler at you about something.
And I'm not hollering at nobody when I go down
to it. Ain't even ain't said nothing by kids. Dude
done a life center? Is he got a book trying
to help the community? None?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Of that, and you know what, I don't I don't
really expect them to on certain levels because you know
every rap I ain't worried about kids right now, so
we kind of know what kind of lane they be in.
So I feel like a lot of us got to
put ourselves in position to get somebody in their promoting position.
That's a solid dude, because just because you do promoting
and all, it don't mean you solid. You knowee what

(37:35):
I'm saying, So you can address them kind of issues
that my city. God, if I'm giving you forty fifty
to come down here, can you do this or that
for me? Because what's happening is I have seen rappers
come down here, niggas drop their bag in front of
them and they'll do a feature. So if you make
it make sense and it's beneficial for them, sometime they'll
make certain things happen. You feel what I'm saying. But
I just think we gotta get a solid core on

(37:57):
every end, like with these promoters. And I don't really
know too many promotes. I'm gonna tell you some promoter
that did something for me, Like when Little Melvin brought
Charleston down here, he made it his business, because Charleston
was in that lane with kids to deal with us,
Like he stopped by here hollered at you. He stopped
by a Meridian cafe to holler at me. So when
we learn the niggas that we bringing down here, what

(38:19):
you're trying to get done? When you when you dropping
them thirty or forty or fifty for them to come
down there, because a lot of these dudes just want
to make you feel what I'm saying, But I feel
like we got solid enough dudes if the rap see
I'm kind of like in this thing with rappers though, bro,
we put too much responsibility on these niggas, Like these
niggas haven't gotten the game to rap, you see what

(38:42):
I'm saying. So a lot of time they do have
the voice, but a lot of times they problems ain't
your problems. And I kind of understood that ship like, but.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Then a responsibility to go with that though, So they
can't just go scott free because they like this accountability.
My kids on your on your cap though, right, you
know what I'm saying, Like you influential to the people
that I'm I'm leaving behind to this world, so I
gotta kind of That's why I didn't. That's why I
stop being so critical of people and just starting to

(39:12):
put game next to whatever they doing. Y'all do what
y'all do, and I'll just put something next to it
and hopefully that when I when I let my kids out,
they go towards the stuff that I've put out that
it makes more sense versus the ship this. You know
what I'm saying, I don't necessarily count on on these
people the same way you're saying. But but I think

(39:34):
that they have a responsibility too though to if you
come to a city and eat off a city, you
have a responsibility to feed into that city.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Coming So think about this the same that we were
saying with academics. That's how he's eating. You know what
I'm saying, creating this now doing that, That's how these
rap niggas eat because they saying, put this drake on
your and go do this. They selling off. There ain't
nobody going platinum talking about feeding children, right, So we
gotta understand that the levels to this ship like it's

(40:10):
hard to be if I'm going to the cities, I'm
going to make sure these kids straighten the city. When
I'm I'm pushing the narrative to spind the block. You
don't line up with what I'm saying, which might not
be real to us, but that's how they feeding their families.
Sou Yes, what I don't even expect most of the niggas, but.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
It's but also what their being is. There's a section
of all of their businesses that that has a fundraiser element.
It has like a it should have when you are
earned in this business. Every one of these guys create
this dump right with the with the with the with
the giveaway, with the fundraiser, with the grant thing. You

(40:47):
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
So we don't have no expectation, though what do we
What expectation do we got as as culturally.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
We don't expect. We just consume.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Again, there's no expectation that hey man, hey man, say man,
you know we're getting this when you hit the city, bro,
we got to give back. There's never nobody vocal about
the expectation on nothing.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Some of them niggas did go vocal o. Trick Trick
told them niggas, Yeah, what y'all, nigga come through Detroit,
Nigga ain't no more making money If niggas ain't doing
nothing for the artists and ship around here. We'll burn
the show down. Yeahs them come up out of there,
you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't because they
beat them up. They just kind of blocked the interest.

(41:28):
And shit, niggas ain't y'all ain't doing nothing then, And
that's what I'm saying. In this town, we gotta be
able to rally the troops in that way against even
our own town. You did, it might be niggas in
position in the way what nigga your club can't do
nothing then?

Speaker 4 (41:46):
And to add to that right there, because it's it's like, yeah,
we don't. We know you're not obligated. But it's the
same way with us being in a position we in
When people get in trouble, they reach out to us.
What I'm saying, even though we not obligated to try
to fight for you, go, you know, go speak up
for you.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
But it's us being in this position, well, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
You know, if we know somebody is, we're just not
gonna leave you stranded, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
And we expect the.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Same thing from people. You know what I'm saying, who
are getting money from the community. You know what I'm saying,
give back and then that's business, that's business practice. You
know what I'm saying, to give back.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, and they all got them in their business, even
the government beneficial being and forgiving back. This is a
part of making money in America. You see what I'm saying,
give something. But we again, I understand your point is
just like but but I just do think we got
to have especially for this time because we've been left
as consumers in Nashville. They've took our style. They've sold

(42:49):
us wrap, they've sold us everything and gave us nothing.
Cash money came down through here and got a lot
of our style. Y'all watch your bo jeans, y'all. Niggas
was doing respectfully. We were down here, fly them South niggas.
When y'all come down, them South niggas was out there
fly next thing, you know, cash money flying a motherfucker.

(43:13):
So I'm telling y'all they they robbed us. All these
niggas know that come to can'tboos. It doesn't come down
here every weekend for three four years straight. It's important
that y'all know that this little market right here is
a bill payer. You see what I'm saying. So niggas
gotta respect that. We gotta make them respect it. And
I'm I'm gonna do it. I don't I'm gonna do it.

(43:35):
You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna tell them yo,
because but people comfortable with me. I've built this thing
in a way where you know I'm able to have
that leadway. These promoter guys don't got no juice, and
it might sound bad hearing that, even if you are
promoter in the town. They might sound like, damn man,
he trying. I'm telling you from an industry now. They
can't send him. They go do my boy podcast. Hey man,

(43:56):
I need you to stop over to the It ain't
all these niggas. Lot of times they ain't spending the
night here. They literally come and grabbing it bagg and
hitting the road, not even staying at the hotel.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
As a businessman like I would look at that as
part of marketing because it's it's hard for me to
have a customer base and not engage with that customer base.
And if I'm coming to your city and I'm gonna
do a show, I'm gonna hit the local podcast. I'm
gonna hit the local DJ stations like that's gonna be
part of my tour.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
But you can't.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
But you can't really do that because it don't make
sense to hit all leave podcast. It ain't gonna make sense.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
You pick out the choice one like of course you
got this on lock. Of course it's the choice.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
But and then here's also a thing. Traveling is exhausted.
So a lot of these niggas is. So let's pay attention.
When you serving a Nashville, especially a club market, you
probably ain't on tour where you getting no resks. So
you might got a Thursday in Nashville, a Friday in Alabama,
Saturday and nolth Carolina or Sunday, Texas. You see what

(44:58):
I'm saying. So you right, it ain't like a nigga
like a baby or something that's really getting money that's
going to a town and staying two or three nights.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
I'm gonna do a drop hey y'all, Hey man, I'm
in the city. Man, I'm on here for one night.
I know I can't stay, but hey man, I got
my people finna drop some over here, man, Amen.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
Tap in a may loon pulled up on my ain't long. Hey, man,
what's up? Just something?

Speaker 1 (45:20):
It makes sense to me. I hear it, I understand it,
but I know the business side of it. Even if
it ain't true. They can use it for an escapegoat
to be like, Man, I just came from Alabama. I
gotta be a test of the moment. Man, I don't
want to say. You know, they can use it for
an escapegoat even if it ain't the case. You know
what I'm saying, because you can do it if you
want to do it, bro, you know what I mean

(45:42):
these dudes. That's another thing with rappers. It's like the
expectation on them has been so loose that they can
promise things and not deliver. They can even tell niggas
when they show up in the city. Now I'm be
back and I'm gonna fuck with you. Now I'll be
back to fuck with you, nah and disappear.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
I'm trying to figure out what we're gonna do. Wh
au the ops dead?

Speaker 5 (46:00):
But after you don't kill every last o, then what
God damn, it's only so many ops left, bro.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
The way they killing a question for the rappers. Man,
since I got I know you, you be around a
lot of them, right, And the question I always had, bro,
I know they go. I mean everybody come from the
bottom with the rap ship mostly you feel I'm saying,
and they in position that now they do features in
these cities. And one thing I never understood is how
they'll do these features with these dude, Why is ships

(46:30):
so hard to get cleared?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
It's because a lot of people don't know to be
in it. So you gotta talk about that when he
in your face, see if you got him in the
head like right that he can make a call.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
It's when you let him get away.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
The niggas like she sm I want that.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
I mean, it's just man. Then these dudes tied up
in so many deals. I used to do the rap.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
I still got a studio them them deals be the
way they be structured.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
And then they don't tell people. They're just trying to
get the money.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
As you can see that next soul for next soul
the verse twice so the look you go on. He
showed two videos with him with the same verse.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Right, and what be fucked up is these be street niggas.
They got stream money that now they took penitential chances
for this now stuck with a forty dollar verse. I
remember one time they were trying to say, Man, how
long get that verse? Go check the platforms. If it's
on the platforms, it been through the process. Because you
can't even put it on them platforms. Them label's gonna

(47:31):
come out grab that.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Because you remember when like when Ghana did the dollar
for dollar, he cleared everybody. If you can do something
like if he could do it that quick, these niggas
is on the highway literary robbin that may't clear it
for people didn't even know everybody made your verse, my verse.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
He go the trick right when you come out some
kind of way, because the narrative is more important than
the truth. They can make you look like a hater
because you come out and say that nigga didn't even
clep my verse.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Oh you're so small that your voice don't five thousand follows.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Man, you afforded when you were in his backyard. That's
high level disrespect.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
I ain't never played like it. I don't play like
it because I'm it's disrespectful man.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
But you know, I just man, I just I feel
like you know, even on the way here, man, God
put it on my spear, bro, Like I can't just
sit back as being who I am and what I
represented the community, man, and not addressed Like dude, I
respect people coming from nothing trying to do something, bro,
but I don't care. There's a certain that's not a

(48:45):
there's a certain weight to come along with that type
of messaging. For so long, like you got, you're gonna
have to you know what I mean, You're responsible for
that message. You're responsible, bro, especially when you see the outcome.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
So how long. I don't care what people do.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
It's it's only so long that you're gonna be able
to escape that responsibility and accountability as it comes to
lead these kids astraight.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
This man, work with these kids. I'm sitting to the.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
Two brothers who I know for a fact bearing kids.
We Mama's calling we in juvenile. We on the streets,
mentoring and trying to figure out what's going on. Bro.
And I'm trying to tell you, man that rap it's
got these young niggas crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
You got them in a choke hold, and I'm finna start.
I gotta start getting out there with y'all man for show.
Though that's that's important to me, man. That's why I
picked y'all in particular. You know, it's rappers. A nigga
could have grabbed. It's anybody, but y'all dudes three in particular.
I'm like, Yo, they the ones like So I gotta
get out there with y'all. And that's that's on my word.
You know, I gotta make sure I'm involved financially and everything.

(49:48):
You know what I'm saying. I gotta be involved with that,
and I gotta use my resources. But y'all gotta tell
me how to use my resource. I don't know. I
know it's a business element to the money. So these
corporate companies can't tell me that ain't no money available.
I know that y'all got money you right off. That's
delegated to this kind of shit. We gotta figure a

(50:10):
way to get it from all these companies, the AT
and T Downstown. How the fuck ain't nobody tap you
know what I'm saying, Like it's we got disconnects in
this town. Man, Ain't nothing but the white people capitalize.
Oh that's for sure. They getting They plugging with each
other on these golf courses and shit. While we sitting
back like, what's going on? Give us something, man, Let's

(50:31):
do some busy. Let's bring something.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Yeah, and I would say, uh, most of the disconnect
is when most of our people get in these boardrooms
of these big corporations.

Speaker 2 (50:42):

Speaker 4 (50:43):
They scared to speak on behalf of black folk because
they don't want to rub people the wrong way. Make
it look like this is what I stand for when
everybody else standing for what they You got, you know
what I'm saying. You know, the list goes on for months,
different months, different days, you know what I'm saying, But
when it comes to blacks getting a position, they don't

(51:04):
want to pump up Black History Month when your company
want to hear who's standing up? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
But in most cases, people shrink, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
But we need people because keep in mind, most of
the corporate professionals now they listen to Tupac, they listen
to especially our blacks, but we need them to be
able to know what I'm saying. Step up to the plate.
May don't be scared when y'all getting this position, because
you got an obligation. You gotta do that, like Tony

(51:34):
Morrison said, you gotta do that when you go through
school and you start getting these titles to your community, right.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
And Bro, you know, I know you be on the
road a lot, bro, but you know we three individuals
that live here.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
These streets of Nashville could be a tourist city and whatever,
but it's two different worlds.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
These dudes are getting killed, these young guys killing. They
got juveniles by the dozens up there with first degree murder.
And you would think the city of Nashville wud be
like our kids gotta grow up here, so we gotta
support these people. If the people gonna listen to these people, Man,
we gotta stop these murders. Every night you wake up, man,

(52:14):
you know you might see that man downtown. It's so
lovely every night. Man, But these little brothers dropping night
after night, it's getting more dangerous in these neighborhoods. They're like,
we got kids growing up. Brother and said, he got
five little girls. So if we don't get to the youth,
my little treasure, his little five little girls, my little serenity.
They gotta grow up with these little dudes. And guess

(52:35):
what we in the juveniles, we're seeing this, but it
ain't slowing down. Hell see, See what I had to
realize is this. It was different when we was getting
put down in gd Crip Blood Vice. Whatever we was doing,
it was always this theory of like, man, if you
do this wrong, the big brother's gonna come down here

(52:55):
and get you. Rather it's from Chicago, La Rther it
was true or not, it kept us in line. Now,
these little dudes are creating their own things. So when
they create their own things, you got a fifteen year
old listening to a fifteen year old, so they on
go mode. So the big brothers, who supposed to be
the big homeses, they ain't got no say so, Like
you think, these little dudes are creating their own games.

(53:16):
When we was going to other cities and states following
the trends of Chicago's in LA's, they ain't got that
no more. They started their stuff on their street. So
they going at each other on every side of town.
Bruh in a murder rate just scout rocketing. So if
I'm downtown, sitting in the office and I'm seeing this
murder rate scout rocketing, how does Robert Sheryl Larry returned
to cam bran not coming on your desk to stop it.

(53:39):
So is it by design or is it by chance?
Because every night, bro.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
It can't be especially you know why now I can
say with me it could be by chance because maybe
maybe maybe not. But y'all come through the system to
get out, man, all, y'all come through the system to
get out. So it ain't no way that you're oblivious
to what You've been pardoned by the president and the governor.

(54:07):
You've been let out, kicked out because of the law.
You've been pardoned by the governor and kicked out right,
So it's like, what the It's no way for that
not to be.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
I'm sitting I'm sitting a cigar ball last night arguing
with a with an official about this right here? How
is it that we ain't on the boards broad breaking
glass ceilings?

Speaker 6 (54:28):
They find they let this man on some on some
notable boards. They find it in us in but at
a at a at a.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Pace that's not really conducible for what we're trying to
do right now. We we've been out here for years
doing the same work. How is it we ain't sitting
on these notable boards? How is it?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Bro?

Speaker 6 (54:45):
It's about design. They don't want us in there.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
They don't want nobody with lived experience who speak with
authority and passion in these circles.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
Bro, they don't want it.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
So what what we're gonna do to create our own
taste of our own thing?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Because we powerful, hey, listen, the narrative side. I can
handle the narrative side. I mean all of us together,
But this platform is big enough to like reach the
narrative side. So now it's just it's a it's a
matter of playing it. You win. In the preparation of
this thing. We're dealing with a hundred years of playing.
And when they when we talk about government officials, these

(55:20):
folks done been in the think tank with this ship
and it ain't going nowhere. Now, that's why I respect
it so much. When we was talking about Woodland Hills
and Taffing all that, it's how with one perspective is, Look,
we don't feel victim to the system, ain't no all.
Let's see, I still got a light at the end
of the tunnel because because I've been able to you

(55:42):
know what I'm saying, I've been able to Barry Sanders
a little bit. But y'all said man I was just
as swift as you, but they got me. So it
ain't It ain't a matter of winning against that. It's
a matter of winning with that, you know what I'm saying,
and trying to understand it. So that's why I love
that part or of that segment so much, because that's

(56:02):
what I'm saying. That's the magic that the streets need.
You know what I'm saying. That's the magic can't nobody
else give them. They can click anything in the world
that that right there. They ain't getting that nowhere, You
see what I'm saying. Long as we can keep doing
that here and there in these conversations, it's gonna do
what it's supposed to do, you know what I'm saying.

(56:23):
So that's just keep I got a pitch right quick,
gettybody got y'all keep talking though, everything live, So keep going.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Just on this on this note right here, I feel
it's a good note to kind of put a pin
in and stay here for a second, because when when
you look at what we have experienced in the last
four years, in the last four cents, i'd say, from
twenty nineteen all up to now, you know what I'm saying,

(56:55):
We have been dealing with so many different crisis just
hearing as we're donne deal with a twenty twenty tornado.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
We don'n deal with a pandemic, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Then we don'n deal with a Christmas bombing, We don'n
deal with you know, the list goes on. But these
people have studied these things, you know, even George Floyd,
all of the protests, Daniel Hambrick. So when they are
you know what I'm saying, when they encountered situations like
this and we can say like Hurricane Katrina, we can

(57:29):
say Wall Street collapse or the financial collapse, they took
data and they they studied the children. What did the
children do around this time, Trayvon Martin and all that,
How did they how did they experience that? And most
of the little girls was they came, they became very promiscuous,
started you know what I'm saying, you know, doing a

(57:51):
whole lot of sexual you know what I'm saying. Things,
the little boys became very delinquent. So when they got
this data and we just got hit with an avalanche
of all these things at one team. You know what
I'm saying. Because George Floyd can be considered like Trayvon
Martin of my Obbrey because our community was affected.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
It was impacted. We felt that we'll absorbed that. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
Once you do with these emotions, you you act out
on them. Then you go with the tornado people getting
kicked out of North of Nasria because most people as renters,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Along with the other conditions that was right there.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
The biggest transfer of real estate wealth happened in North Nashville.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
When that when.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Yes, sir, it did everybody.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
It did people favor they was it was like a
It was like a blessing and from a contract, it
was a blessing.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
It destroyed Dude. Right now, I'm probably buy my grandmama house.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
It ain't nobody living us since Tornado.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
That whole street that have been brought up.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
The biggest transfer of wealth it is been looked at,
per the numbers. The most real estate redevelopment and rezoning
happened in North Nashville right after the tor.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Night because they still going up out there and.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
Then our families fighting with it.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Man, I got listen, bro, if we don't do nothing else,
life insurance are will.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Now, can you get life insurance? Let's talk about this
because it's a couple of old niggas I know right
now that feeling you know what I mean, kick the bucket. Yes,
you can at least get fifty. You can get it
on anybody.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
You can get it on anybody.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
But they don't let you.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
Can get fitty without no without no.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Tests as well. Then, So, because I know I'm gonna
be responsible by every little homie, every one of my
little home is that I fuck with that.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
I know I'm gonna be When something happened to them,
they mama gonna call me. I got fifty on them
and I put it in their kids. Now, this is
this is common sense. Look, one thing that we never
gonna one thing that all.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Of us ain't gonna escape.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
His death right.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
White people prepare.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
Millions on about three point two million dollars in life insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Wallow was telling me about this, saying that, Yo, that's
how you pass million dollar status.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
The quickest transfer, quickest transfer of wealth is through death
bro right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
And if you set it up right, you get to
pass it tax tax free.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Hell as you telling my Yeah, they put me up
on the game. That's the tame already right now, fucking
with the S Corp. They got me operating like an
S Corps man.

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
They got an irrevocable trust bro my house. Listen, brother
me too. If you look up my house, they don't
even say Roberts, you will.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Never find why live, man, I.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
Put it in the trust.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Bro, my everything in the trust. You look me up
here gonna say old ten grand. You it's gonna say
our old ten grand or something. We can medical bills
or something if we.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Could just start.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
But it's the information, bro.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
But that's why I'm glad when I got in this game,
Like a couple of people's like, look if you if
you did, because but it was. It's a certain number
you gotta make to even activate some of that shit
like the S Corps status. You gotta make I think
two fitted before it even means something. You know, before
it even you get taxed different. It's certain shit that

(01:01:11):
you benefit from it with the trust thing. But when
they put me up on that, I said, man, oh
my god, they done told us just to get stuck
on the hustle. Nigga who ain't a hustler, nigga, I'm
a hustler. What that means, Nigga, that don't mean a
motherfucking thing in this world. The hustlers is the slaves.

(01:01:31):
You telling me, you the nigga that that's gonna get
the water to know how to nail some shit? Cool.
I know what to do when the money made, That's
what you got to know what to do after the
money made. What I do with it, even if it's
just two grand. If I know what to do with
two grand, if I can save some more, I can
you Yo, It's all information, bro, it said, all one thing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:52):
I've done well, Bros. I've listened.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
I mean, when I was in prison, the smartest man
in there, he said. He told the story of him
sitting down with his mentor, and you know, he fresh
out of college, you don't graduate.

Speaker 6 (01:02:03):
So he's smart. So he sit down with.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
His mentor and he get the talking. So his mentor
just sit there and look at him, and then the
mentor get up packing stuff up. So he's like, where
you're going, he said, you talking? He said, niggas sit
down and shut the fuck up and learn. So when
I get in these rooms, I shut the fuck up.
And I just listen and then I start like, oh shit,
this shit makes sense. You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
But see, you're gonna find yourself in a place where
something in rooms is gonna be a time when you
gotta say something.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Oh I ain't got no problem.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Yeah yeah, But see that's the thin line though. This
niggas needs That's what I'm saying. So its watching that
that that need to understand that you might. It's a
time to sit and listen, but then it's a time
to say, hey, direction, let's go this way with it.
I know about that because you can have a skill

(01:02:52):
set that niggas don't know. You got to expertise in it.
But like he said, you shrink, you know what I mean,
You'll shrink yourself. Sometimes. You the only chance niggas got
outside that building. You You the only chance the nigga
got outside their little room.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
And I run into that all the time because I'm
on the Procurement Standard Board here in Nashville and the
Small Business Administrations Regulatory Fairness Board, where I am in
control of eight states Southern states, knowing, you know, when
they deal with if people feel like their business is
being discriminated against, or the regulations are unfair, they report

(01:03:30):
to me, I'll report straight to Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
And they'll give them an attorney.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
But they learned all this through from the pandemic where
they saw a lot of you know, their pandemics exposed
a whole lot. And now what they trying to do
is they trying to, you know, make those corrections of
what people fail through the cracks. They trying to, you know,
make sure that don't happen again. So that's why I

(01:03:55):
was asked to co speak at the Department of Treasury
because they trying to do some financial inclusion. They trying
to get middle men to work with the banks and
go inside the prisons to help people open up accounts,
bank accounts in prison so that their money don't stay
on the prison roads, because who know what they do

(01:04:17):
with the money, you know what I'm saying. So, you know,
but they you know, they's this is the moment for us,
you know, just as impacted people, you know what I'm saying,
for us to wield our power, even though they trying
to strip us up that here in the state of Tennessee,
which is why it's important for us to be highlighted.
For us to be spotlighted on what we're doing because

(01:04:39):
we the only one, you know what I'm saying, Our
stories are the ones gonna change the laws or at
least bring a conversation, start a conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Yeah, and I'm with y'all on that. That's why I
be saluted. But I gotta get out there. I want
to be out there with my camera crew down there
at the marches and showing really what's going on in
this town because people don't know. Bro, They don't even
know it's niggas. Like when I tell nigga I'm from Ksvill,
it be fucking them up unless they're a hustle. Now
the hustlers know, right, like Roscoe Little I remember bumping

(01:05:12):
into little pee Wee Roscoe be with baby them. He
a little hustler, you know, he the one that he
and on the wise, he came that they didn't call him,
but he know he knows certain names from the time
where he don't come down through your hustling, you know
what I'm saying, make a few calls like it's like,
oh damn so those guys. But that the rept the mainstream,

(01:05:32):
they don't have an idea that it's these kind of stories.
These kind of people even with me when I pop
out like yeah from I'm from Nashville. What you know
what I'm saying. But it's it's our fault a little bit,
you know, because we gotta highlight this ship. We ain't
bring niggas down here. We got some money, young, we
can make it happen.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
Well, one thing, if they if they ever been a
freak nigga in the nineties, we represent it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Okay, you know what I'm saying. I'm talking about represent
in it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
And I remember going down the highway.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
I took four of my cars down there, everybody taking
you know what I'm saying. So were going down there deep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Whether it's Lexuses, whether it's Cadillacs, whether it's astro Vans with.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Gold all over, you know what I'm saying, it's whatever.
You know what I'm saying. Cavine represented.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Then we went down there deep and show love in
the clubs, whether it were Magic City, whether it was one twelve. Well,
I'm talking about coming through. They making a lot of
hawks and a lont of fibers. Move out the way
they sitting here. You know what I'm saying. That's how
we're coming through. Yeah, throwing money around.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, freaking what was that like back in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Hey, I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
I'm talking about I'm talking about kicking it with you
know what I'm saying, the dog Pound Eve four and them,
we standing staying next door to them. Ran in the
park down there, ran in the park here in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
You know what I'm saying. Just uh, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
I was in there. I was in the thick of Yeah,
you know, I stayed. I was going to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Niggas in the fairs watching it, saying now he wanted men,
his niggas in the state, niggas watching it right now,
saying that's them guys, Like yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's documented.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I love it, I really love it. I love it. Hey,
this is what I want from you too, right whoever talking,
because I'm noticing were so engaged with each other that
we may not be facing the camera. So whoever talking,
you focus on them. Yeah, okay, cool, cool, cool, Just
making sure because I want people to see yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:07:38):
but yeah, let's get back to the rap thing, the
rappers selling the verse, because that's that's a mean thing,
because that's the street money.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
It's like, I will respect a young nigga bringing me
for the grand Yeah, I'm a clear I'm gonna try
to get that clip for him. Sure, you know what
I'm saying, because I respect the hustle specially. But I'm like, man,
won't know this, dude, This ain't no rap money. This
ain't no end of street money. He just popped Tall
with Ford it for me because he's a fan of
and he just helped me.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
I ain't have to report it to Uncle Sam. Niggas
money come in, little y. Let me tell you got
you got more of this up with this ship man,
let me sign you, let me do. And that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
Like that, that that that portion of it is gone. Bro,
there's no there's nobody mentoring, there's nobody helping.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
That's that's the issue in QC ping them done me
like that, That's what I'm saying. So it's niggas doing that.
But it ain't a lot of them, you know what
I'm saying. But QC pen them. Coach Caitenan called me
just like that done it, just like that. You know
what I'm saying, Hey, man, you doing your own thing? Man, Hey,
look from the fly right here go holl they coach

(01:08:42):
And if P is calling, if you got P calling
shit moving, you know what I mean, Like he calling
people like, hey, y'all, ain't y'all get a loan to
the s as up? You know what I mean? And
it was moving. So it's niggas doing that. But we
gotta we got a uniform. We gotta power range of
this mother for because we all on our own corners
of the world just hustling and it's important that we

(01:09:04):
able to come together like this. And niggas even in
our town see this. You know what I'm saying, Like
this is the mecca. You dig know what I'm saying.
I don't give a fuck who they say or what
they talking about. This is the top of it right here.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
We got motion now, Yeah, this is it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
I don't give a fuck who they talking about, you
know what I mean, I don't care who. And I'm saying,
these guys right here stand on they word. I've It's documented.
I've done everything by myself. It ain't nobody in America
they can dispute that. So this is the highest level
of you gonna get, in my opinion, from this town.

(01:09:40):
So I'm bringing these individuals to the forefront and pushing
it out there. Let's talk about prison, man, because I
ain't gonna lie. Internet love that shit. That shit go crazy,
crazy crazy. I don't know what it's, Dodo.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
It's crazy. You got two perspectives here. You got the
state and you got to feed They totally difference. It
ain't nothing like you're dealing with different types of.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Right because the politicket on the on the FEDS is
word is like a world is like all these different states.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
Then the economy even different.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (01:10:13):
It's stamps, bro stamps is the money stamps in the
fed punk ass meling stamps.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
Brough the old ones too. They're talking about the ones
you can't even put on the latter no more.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
That's that's what you buy your ship with. It's the
weirdest ship in the world. Thig like, Man, I need
to rayo. Man, you gotta get you some steps.

Speaker 6 (01:10:29):
So what the you mean some stamps? Yeah, that's the money.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
They don't created their own economy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
That's what they did with money. That's how fat. That's
how fire is. That's what the money is. I'm talking
about it out here the same way they faking in there,
in the same way were faking out here with this
little ship I got in my market. It ain't nothing
but some stamps. It's the same. You just believe it's
word for hunger, and they say I can get this forward.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
That's the bro if you that right there, the fact that, Okay,
a diamond, it's a shiny stone, but.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
We place value on it, which make it cost some bruh.
I just read an article because that's what I do.
I don't listen to rap, none of that. I read
all day, got this in my ear, listening to books
from the highest level of this shit. I ain't playing
with nobody. Put anybody in the square with me. We
can have a conversation because I'm always doing this. That

(01:11:27):
won't whooping niggas at. But I was reading the article
the other day that motherfucker said that in all actuality,
diamonds have no value. This after I bought my watch.
Yeah said all actuality is there's an over fluctuation of diamonds.
They just may not be found yet, right they but

(01:11:49):
they know they're they're and but the value on diamonds
is literally a mindset exactly. It's literally to say, yo,
these are rare, says who they everywhere in Africa? What
do you mean bitcoin?

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
There's no tangible two big coin. It's a mindset that
we're going to place value on this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
But let's get back to the stamp thing. That's the
hell of the thing that is. I think that's something people.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Put away.

Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
I couldn't believe it that it was its only.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Kind of Yeah, and then you know it's stamps in
some joints.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
It might be Michael's. You know what I'm saying, some joints,
it may you know what I'm saying, used to be cigarettes.
You know what I'm saying. What the current the current though,
well the book is controlled what you yeah? What what? What? What?
The currents are gonna right because they the one taking
in the book is in the store, mean so ones
they decide make them niggas ahead of the house or where,

(01:12:45):
you know, because if you got all of the stamps,
people want have to come to you so you can.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Like you become the store.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
If you got you the bank, because you can have
thousands of books. You might say Okay, this what I'm
selling all up for three dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Feder you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Said, yeah, you said, we said, said the economy, You.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
Said, what what value is?

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Was this?

Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
Well, and everybody's circumbed to it to cross it's the
crazies shit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
In the world.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
But but it show you how, no, you know how
creative we are, how we shouldn't been saying our own reality. Yes,
you know because prison us show you is the quickest
example for us.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, because that's deep to say. But see, you see
my mind is so fucked up. I instantly said, well,
they ain't doing too bad in there, because that's the
same thing I'm doing. This ain't nothing but some paper
printing on it. It ain't literally no different. Make sure
my blood is still out there, if you don't mind, brother,
I put it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
On the thing that's my little brother.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
No, I ain't talking about it. I just make sure
it ain't flew out because I think the wind and
ship it's a little joint. But but it's the same
thing were doing out here where. It's like, Yo, this
s motherfucker ain't nothing. This motherfucker say look this motherfuckers,
this ship is one hundred dollars bill a little up,
he's a pay. This is no different than the stamp

(01:14:04):
bro It's all my mind. Ain't they done agreed up
the street that this is this ninety nine and this
is three of old, this is sixteen of them. It's
the same thing. What about the state? What is it
with the stated?

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Well, with the state. You know they got their politics
as well, you know, Like I think the difference is
a lot like just say stamps, they went off distance.
I believe you feel I'm saying everybody far away from
home in the fairs, you could be in the whole
another state, like y'all can tell us hee, y'all could
be so far away from home that them stamps really
hold value in that. But it's a way to get
to your people. So with us being in the state,

(01:14:41):
I think just the drugs, the tobacco, or it was
being close to home. Who can make that move to
get it where it need to be. He gonna dictate
the economy because everybody maybe in the os reach of
five six hours. You see what I'm saying. So now
it's about what territory you in and who's gonna create

(01:15:02):
the mean Marcus go.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
To the state and get rich. Do you niggas go
to the man and get rich like that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Absolutely the niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
I seen niggas in the states. I seen niggas and
it's about how loutional spoty, But I seen niggas in
the state paid bills from from me too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
I saw niggas buy cars.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Weed in the wall and I'm talking about pounds of
weed in the wall and and one of those uh
inflatable uh dummies with the yeah, yeah, I'm talking about.
I'm talking about all blood in the wall. Had I'm
talking about mypics was a whole different animal.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
In what year was it? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
And I got there on the when it was dying down.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
I got there in two thousand and two, So it
was on the down slope, you know what I'm saying.
But I seen that, So imagine what it was what
it was doing before I got there. And then you
got to keep in mind they had had a riot
in federal inter federal prison. A crack ride, you know
what I'm saying, but mean.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Well, they it was a ride.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Because of the drug race show as it relates to
powder cocaine and crack cocaine. For one gram of powder uh,
equaled one hundred grams of crack cocaine. You know what
I'm saying, Well, yeah, exactly one gramd or one gram
of crack was like a hundred grams of powder cocaine
like that. However, Bill Clinton was supposed to had reduced

(01:16:33):
the ratio from one hundred to one to eighteen to
one because it was recommended by the senatec Commission, and
he didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
And when he was supposed to, he was sposed was
passed to something.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Well, every year, and it's the beauty of the federal system.
Laws change every year, and it changed through the Sentence
Commission because the senatece Commission is basically judges and people
who do not have been placed on this commission to
where they decide what laws are harsh or what laws
you know what I'm saying, kind of got where it's

(01:17:05):
targeting a specific group and then they'll, you know what
I'm saying, try to make it right. However, they recommended, Okay,
we know this crack low because people getting knocked out
the park. Let's knock it down to eighteen to one
instead of hundred to one. And Bill Clinton refused to
do it. And when he refused to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
All of the prisons, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:17:26):
Rupted, And he was the motherfucker who introduced crime bill.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Uncle the prison.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
You know what's crazy. I read mass incarceration in prison.
It was like, we as black people in our community
at the time, we had so much love for Bill
Clinton because of the way things was rolling back. Then
then you got get set down and you read a
book on mass incarceration. How much he had to do
with drugs, bro, And they put pressure on this man

(01:17:55):
to make a decision about certain laws and this, that
and the other three strikes you out. All that dude
put black people in a bad position was with him. Biden,
Joe Biden was the one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Bid the bill. And that's fucked up though, But if
you paying attention, it shows you again the business of politics.
These same names are still still around it twenty years later. Man,
So the president is one thing we talking about these guys.
The president changed every four years. These niggas still in

(01:18:28):
the picture in some.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
Compassity career politicians man, and got it buying buying by man.
Fuck Biden, Bro, This nigga was the one who introduced
that shit and got it passed. He did Clinton's bidding
to get that crime bill passed.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Bro, he knew what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Why did black people love Clinton?

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
And I'm gonna tell you why. The reason why they
love Clinton because you know Clinton won. You know he
he he.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Know, he knew how to. I would say for next
black folks. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Where he came in playing the saxophone.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
You know what I'm saying, because we love music.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Then he had more blacks in his cabinet than in
the president. He hired more black women and blacks in
his staff. I think his speech writer was black. I
think Vernon Jordan, well, his speech writer was black. But
going back to the crime bill, and you what you
said you would like to do. This year marks the

(01:19:25):
thirtieth anniversary of the Crime Bill, nineteen ninety four Crime Bill.
So I got plans of doing a a voter restoration,
not registration restoration for people who lost their rights. Yes,
you know what I'm saying to where we can try
to if anything gets some attornies to come and speak

(01:19:47):
with him and let him let us know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
The process of restoration.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
How you get your rights restored, because you got to
get full citizenship.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Here in the state of Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Now, if you don't get got your vote rights now
you need full citizenship, You need a party to be
able to vote. So so what that has done restrict
and it took our power away because now politicians don't
want to need to talk to us. Now you can't
even vote vote what we need to talk to you
about in these rooms and speak on behalf of justice,

(01:20:19):
impact of people. We're in a political climb and tell
us we're gonna lose our way across the board, so
you can leand your services or your camera, your voice
around that where we can amplify and go across the country,
go across the country with it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
With it, they got even small Guess what else they
did though with that They attached it to fucking child support.
You can't get your voting rights back if you ain't
got zero on them books downtown? What yes, because we're
still bro we're the last of the few states in
this country.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Voted on that. When did they pass that?

Speaker 5 (01:20:59):
Or the few that considers incarceration will for unemployment.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
So when you go to jails, they playing with words
old niggas.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
Ask why you think niggas get out with these twenty
thirty forty thousand dollars riars.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
You feel me.

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
They know you can't come out of their deficit because
you got a feeling. So you're gonna have to work
a minimum wage job.

Speaker 6 (01:21:22):
So we ain't got to worry about They gonn knock
you out. The par for the restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:21:27):
They not listen.

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
We restoration, but they tied it to child support. To
that was the back dope piece.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
That's the magic.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Can't sell everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Yeah, and then what I'm telling you, it's one hundred years
a tricker rid. This ain't nothing. They to come up
within ten minutes. That why I'm telling you to fight
this kind of shit you got. It's gonna be a
lot of thinking. They got the niggas got to be savvy, man.
These people got it tied to this and tied to
that and tied the funding. If they fuck with it,
immediately cut the funding off. Soon they go. Man, I've

(01:21:59):
seen them say something about when Trump will get mad
at you, he'll make one. When they say they ain't
doing it, they don't want to do they don't get
no more money, then cut their fund.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
And cut it up, cut it out, Madiac.

Speaker 6 (01:22:15):
I've been in the room with her for five hours. Man,
he's a maniac.

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
He done more for for justice impacted people the last three.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
I like that word where you get that from just
that just on the journey, you find out these little
tim bits of informations.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
It goes when when the trainings I've been going to
got uncompleted, two leadership training of courses and learning that terminology,
so planning all that absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
And I want to comminue you see how I stop
and commend you for that because I know it's worked
right there, sir, because we've been birthed and taught to
go along with their system and call it a felling,
then call yourself a criminal. Right, We've been taught that
that's the not the thug, and that's that's what it is.
So I really really respect that. And I can see
that it's starting to become natural for you. And that's

(01:23:03):
so powerful coming from you, coming from people like us,
Like I'm finna take that, Like when I go on
these bigger platform here, I ain't calling my homies feedlings
no more. That's old with yes, sir, we talk about
justice impacted people.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Is it just shut the courtroom? Down. You can stand
in the courtroom, don't know nothing about the law, and
you can go to defend it and you can be like,
I'm justice impacted and shut everything down because it covers everything.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Yes, everything.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Word. I'm glad we celebrated that for the hundreds of
thousand people that's watching because now they get to know, Yo,
that's a term that black folks can use, right, yes, sir,
And as long as we keep pouring into it. And I'm
gonna keep pointing this out because it's our first time
doing this together, and I want you all I've got
fought with this. I know exactly what I'm talking about,
you know what I'm saying, But I want try to
know these kind of little things as as as and

(01:23:59):
this may not make that episode. This is more so
me just pouring into y'all my understanding of this game.
But but those kind of little things like that, it's
it's it comes out in conversation, but it's it helps
people get something, you know what I'm saying, Like all
this whole come say this whole conversation, somebody's getting something

(01:24:20):
from every time somebody niggas is grabbing hold to this bro.
And I want y'all to know, like and don't we
ain't gotta don't think about it's just ruggling, y'all. We
all just being ourselves. But I'm I'm on the outside
because I'm in producer Molde as well, knowing this is
our first time doing it, knowing the audience is big.
I gotta pay attention to you know what I'm saying
all of this, but I want y'all know we're smoking

(01:24:42):
this motherfucker. We're smoking this motherfucker. What else y'all want
to talk about? It's a lot going on out there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
Well I want to add one more thing to that piece.
And you talk about ruppers, and I think what ruppers
need to see is what is your idols doing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Who's in the reper game.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
You know what I'm saying, whether they rose in, they
roll in to the politics.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
You got jay Z and the politicis, you got Meek
Mills and politics, you got your got in them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
You got all these people doing something.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
You know what I'm saying. For criminal justice reform, the
roles to go there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
So we need more of these rappers.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
You know what I'm saying. Because I'm a CoA chair
of Criminal Justice Task Force for NORH here in Nashville.
I'm trying to boost that and have so many justice
impacted people there. So our voice is when we move,
it's gonna move in solidarity to where they can't do
nothing but listen. You know what I'm saying, because we
done got it in these rooms. That's the importance of
being in these rooms. These rooms are just like your portfolio.

(01:25:44):
Each one of them you go in, you got the
value that you're placing in there, if you got something
about you yet, you know what I'm saying. So the
more rooms you in, the more of.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Your portfolio spread out to wear only things.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
They know you and they gonna give you what you're
looking for. And you know where the diamonds at. I
don't know where the diamonds at right right?

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
And I know how to put him in the necklace.
I all just got how to get a molded and
make your necklace with this motherfucking were going hard?

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
Man, what's up? Fred?

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
I ain't doing nothing, man, ship you know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Man, And you know it's important that the listeners know this.
And if you was know this, man, you know you
ain't looking at brothers who just really ain't been through
nothing like Man, this brother right here on the end
of LT. Man, he had a life sentence, Man, and
he's sitting right here with us. Man, were sitting right
here with a brother the only person in the US
that done got pardoned by a governor and a president.

(01:26:42):
You feel what I'm saying myself, Man, I changed the
same lot that I was incarcerated on. So you ain't
dealing with no group of brothers who just playing around like.
We really got motion. And I think is we're reaching
out outside of Tennessee because we know pressure bus pipes,
you know what I mean. We had a situationation right
here in Nashville to the sea with Santorya. Brown. I

(01:27:03):
don't believe they let her go because they just wanted to.
But with the celebrity power that was behind this, it
applied pressure to put people in a position where we
gotta do this. So most of the time we look
at things, we understand what something ain't right. We ain't
asking for no favoritism because we know we ain't gonna
get them. We want equality. So when we speak on equality,
it's like when I knew the drug free schools on
it's four hundred people locked up on it. I knew

(01:27:25):
the drug free schools on wasn't right, So I got
with a group by the family of Washington, DC called
Families Against Meldatory Minimals. We press that line, we got
the law change. So when we press them kind of lines,
we ain't just saying this to y'all like this alone shot.
Now it's about how much pressure we gonna apply.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
And our town has been It's literally I'm literally the
first media I'm probably the only peron really, I'm one
of the biggest in the South. But I'm saying when
we talk about Nashville in particular, it's like, I literally
may be the first reason media thing has ever happened
to this time man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
In this town, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
And so what that what that says to me is
like I have a responsibility, you see what I mean
of using this in a way that's effective for this
whole thing because and I'm not talking about rap shit. Look,
I may not never talk to a Nasvia rapper because
I ain't got no obligation to the rap community, you

(01:28:29):
know what I'm saying. But when we talk about the
streets ship that that that I didn't have to come
up in and fall victim to here and there, even
though I didn't have to go as far as y'all went.
The dude that told on me. See, this is my scenario.
I had a guy who I was fucking with. This
dude for nine years, like I took care of helped

(01:28:50):
him out. He never had out the money ever in
the tirety of his existence. It's always been a relationship
where I were fucking with the guy. All of a
sudden he flipped. Where I got lucky was It wasn't
an investigation going on. It was just so flip. It
was just caught him right now. He flipped on you.

(01:29:12):
So if they didn't have the whole yeah, it was
just the one thing that what they was hoping for
is to follow me to where I was going, and
it was some more ship in there. And this is
one thing I want hustlers to know. I never was
a lazy hustler. I don't give a fuck if I
got a run back seventy five times because that's where
they got a lot of my homeboys that it just

(01:29:34):
it started to be tedious to keep. Yeah, yeah, I
never fell victim to that.

Speaker 6 (01:29:42):
Nigga said, fuck the people man I could just call.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
In the nineties, y'all ever was really nigga ride with
a brick and a head. Some of my older homeboys
that hustle then would tell me ship like for the
nineties were totally different. Polis wouldn't even fuck with you
like it. But my e was like, uh, I come
up in the vice unit, the gray Idpollas and all that.
I come up through that crustle stage where they bothering you,

(01:30:07):
fucking which is searching you. I took all day so
I would never rabble. If you call me for seventy,
I'm coming with seventy, not ninety, not two ninety, only seventy.
No more money, nothing but the mistake I made, they
got me. So I served the guy and I can
talk about it freeom that shit over with. But I

(01:30:29):
served the guy. This is the only I had a bro.
God is good.

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
I put up in the echos right, so I'm the
east side nigga. So I catch my plays at the
Eckers across from the Kroger's at HG Hire. I had
them nigga pull up at the Echo. So I pull
up at the Eckers some off and this is what
I say about real niece. We got a spirit. We
can feel that something is just off. Man, I'm vibrating
so high. Some is just off. So I felt that

(01:30:55):
when he would call him, I was Fel'm like you
all right, bro, But I still went and I have
done that. I went against my mind. I felt it. Bro.
I said, damn, man, he ain't acting on him. I
even asked him out of my mouth, are you okay?

Speaker 5 (01:31:10):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Man? This long night? Man? You know how I do
have them all night, this man long night. So I'm like,
I've been fucking with him man years. It's a man.
They just weird. I pull up in the Echers here
where I beat the police said it bought myself a
little bit more time. So I pull up. If you
know about ECerS in Nashville, you come up to West East,
I mean whatever street that is. They might be West

(01:31:32):
Season whatever, and you turned into Eckers. The store is here,
but you can loop around the store. He's standing outside
the car. He ain't never done this, so listen soon,
not pop out soon. I turned into ecause he like
it just waiting at the time, right, I'm still like, damn,

(01:31:54):
what the fuck? But I still catch him, so I
he opened the door, I grabbed the shit, the money.
This is where I got the police at cause it's
a light right there. If you know anything about Echos,
don't got in the road. It's a light right there.
So I come up in the truck and they think
I go to the light, but I come back around
the echos. You know what I'm saying, Did I come

(01:32:18):
on back out? Going back down the street. They head
to the light and I see him. I'm like, damn,
there's a whole bunch of police and next thing I know,
it's in Poller behind me. For some reason in my mind,
I'm still convincing myself here, Nah, that nigga didn't telling
me Man, ain't no way told on me. Man that
boy ain't done that. Even I see listen, bro, I

(01:32:38):
see the impollo. Bro, ain't no way You're done. They
on the way. It's a ky in between us though
it's a ky in between us, right. So I'm saying, Damn,
I know this, nigga, he ain't done that. Maybe Finn pull,
maybe I sped, maybe you know, I don't know what,
but I had never been through nothing like it, so
I don't I didn't know that this was coming. He

(01:33:01):
pulled me over. See, because they can't tell you that
we're fucking with you. They can't. They can't until they
get that money from you. So he let me pull
all the way up into the spot because I'm thinking,
he ain't finna get me there, because he ain't hitting
the thing. Because again I ain't never been through this.
So I pull on up to where I was going.
I pull on up. That's when he hit the thing.

(01:33:21):
He come up to the car and tell me some
shit that I know a lot. He tell me. He say,
the white lion at the stop sign, and you didn't
you went over it when you stopped. And I'm thinking
to myself, this is some bullshit. Next thing he do,
next thing I see. Here they come. Now they pulling
up from me. Why I'm looking around, I'm still playing done.

(01:33:45):
He say, get out the car. They go in my
pocket when they see that money. Looked at the other dude,
he said, we got and then they that's when they
give me. They put me in the thing. Now here's
the trick. I had a safe in that house. So
they did get some extra money, but I didn't get no.
They took that car. They made me sign over all
that shit. They took all that shit, but I didn't
have no more drugs at that moment. Bro. When they

(01:34:06):
did that, they sent a detective to me, and the
detective asked me and said, we'll give you everything you
had back right now. All you gotta do is tell
us where you got it from. Get what I was
telling the detective got what from? He said, you think
you smart, man, don't play with me like this. I said,
what you tell? Got what from? He said, you just

(01:34:27):
met the guy at Eckers Man. We been, we been
behind you. You got the money. I was like, I ain't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
I ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Here's what I told him, And that's this is what
I knew. I was a thinker. I was still in
the street. But this is when I said, ooh, that
nigga swift a little bit. Then what I told him.
I told the detective Nigga that showed up. I told him.
I said, oh, man, that Nigga owed me some money.
He'dne told y'all. I brought him something. I told that
nigga off kick his motherfucking ass. He didn't pay me,

(01:34:58):
spelled him. Moment I had never thought about nothing like it.
Just sprayed them on and I keep that pissed him off?
Did they take them, nigga, because you know why he
knew I was laying pissed him off. He said, oh
you thank you. Them niggas cut this before. I don't
know if people was dying then. It was like sixteen,
I think my last charge. I can't remember seven one

(01:35:18):
of the year he cut the heat up. It was
in the summertime. Let the wonders up, bro, So get what.
I started playing towards the camera. I can't breathe, even
though I can breathe, just in case I die, let
me be on record if Mamma and them gets something.
But people in the hoods start stopping, man. You know,
they seem don't know why I told that store man,
But it was a fucking crazy story. But hey, I

(01:35:42):
don't know why I told that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
I don't know why, Bro, Why the fuck did I
just told that story? But anyway, man, that that dude
told on me. Man, I still ain't seen him to
this day. I don't know why. It seemed like when
a nigga tell they just appeal.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
I ain't seen that nigga. That was O sixteen. I
still ain't seen a nigga named Brian. I'm putting your
name Brian uh nails and I think but yeah, but anyway, man,
like those stings we come from and we've conquered.

Speaker 4 (01:36:18):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Man, you know, I think what was that you was
asking me about before that?

Speaker 4 (01:36:23):
What was we just talking about? But we were just talking
about you. You You were talking about prison and uh
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Oh yeah, that how they created their own economy. Yeah
and that and you were saying that they so we'll
get back to that. He was about you so close
to your hood that now it depends on who can
get the sack in based on who kind of form
made the economy. Right, It's like you be so close now,
is it ever anyone that's that that you've seen in

(01:36:50):
your run? Because I had been asked a question, I
called Lose and asked him because some niggas I can't
remember them, nigga's name. They were talking about the big
home and such and such from childanooga running the pin,
and I was saying, what does that mean? Like, what
does run the pin mean

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