#drake #kendricklamar #djakademiks #nbayoungboy Drake has dropped another diss tracking taking aim at Kendrick Lamar. Nba Youngboy is also on its up there podcast radar as Big Loon Breaks Down Drake Using AI , Nba Young Boy New Arrest involving prescription drug ring according to federal Government, loon breaks news that Dj Akademiks may have been dishonest about drake song in order to preserve our culture he sheds light on it! this is the middle of the hip-hop royal tumble and seal team six is on the loose! Loon also gets into the hip hop big 3 in media; you won't believe what loon said! On Friday (April 19), the same day his "Push Ups" diss officially arrived on streaming services, the superstar rapper shared another fiery song through social media. On "Taylor Made Freestyle," the 6 God uses AI verses in the style of West Coast hip-hop icons Tupac Shakur and Snoop Dogg to further taunt Lamar, who has not yet responded to his "Push Ups" diss. "Step into the arena with Big Loon as he navigates the chaos of the 'Hip Hop Royal Rumble,' featuring Drake's latest AI-assisted diss track, NBA YoungBoy’s legal troubles, controversy around DJ Akademiks, and a revealing discussion on the hip hop media big 3. This episode of 'It's Up There Podcast' dives deep into the currents shaping the landscape of hip hop culture today. Inside This Episode: Drake’s Innovative AI Diss: Explore how Drake uses AI to channel rap legends in his 'Taylor Made Freestyle' against Kendrick Lamar, pushing the boundaries of technology in music. NBA YoungBoy’s Latest Legal Battle: Details on NBA YoungBoy’s arrest linked to a prescription drug ring and its implications for his future. Controversy Over DJ Akademiks: Examination of claims that DJ Akademiks may have skewed public perception of Drake’s track, questioning the integrity of media in hip hop. Hip Hop Media Big 3 Uncovered: Big Loon addresses the confusion around who constitutes the 'hip hop media big 3.' His surprising response sheds light on the power players influencing the genre's media narrative. The Broader Impact of Hip Hop Feuds: Analyzing how these disputes and technological innovations are reshaping the competitive landscape of hip hop. Viewer Engagement: 💬 We Want Your Thoughts: How do you view the integration of AI in rap battles? What’s your reaction to Big Loon’s take on the hip hop media big 3? 👍 Engage With Us: Like, comment, and subscribe for the most thorough analysis and raw takes on hip hop’s hottest topics. Don’t miss out on our ongoing coverage of the Hip Hop Royal Rumble. Conclusion: As the lines between technology, legal issues, and media narratives blur, the hip hop community finds itself in a spectacle as riveting as any royal rumble. Keep it locked here for continuous insights from Big Loon, who keeps you informed and entertained through every twist and turn in the saga." Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know what's gotten into Drake, and I applauded,
(00:03):
I'm a fan of it. But he got a bravado
to say, I don't even respect your punching power. I
don't even respect what you got on your shoulders. He
ain't got nothing. This is how Drake looking. If you
ask me, you dig what I'm saying. And I think, Kendrick,
you gotta be careful. I told y'all last time, what
did I say? Drake is gonna come out and say
(00:25):
what I don't You're not really a gang banger. That's
not really a thing. That's somebody else thinking. You just cloaking,
cloaking yourself behind these gang bangers that you be around
because you're from the West Coast. Now, I ain't saying
you a city, but you ain't a pow rule I think.
(00:47):
And told y'all that was Drake's angle. And then what
did Drake do? He went and utilized some AI and
this is what he came over. Does Rose again? You
can see them my odds again. For those unaware, you're
(01:10):
gonna hear Drake voice, You're gonna hear Snoop voice. Let
me not assume that everyone is up today. As it
pertains to what artificial intelligence is doing to artistry, and
it's doing to rap, and it's doing the hip hop,
and it's also gonna do the all genres of music.
Let me not be naive and think, because I have
a little bit of information about it that is widespread,
(01:33):
you're gonna listen to a voice that sounds like Tupac,
but it's actually Drake. Drake brings to the forefront that
he freestyled this whole thing, but it's more than that
that he did with this. He's robbing Kendrick of talking
points of angles. And if anybody understands angles, it's Drake. Why,
Because he's in gratiated with battle rap. He's trying to
(01:59):
rob him of them angles and get in his head.
I really don't know Kendrick's background, right, but I can
say with confidence that Drake is a fan of battle rapping.
So what you're gonna see is some of these battle
rap technics he's leaving Kendrick no choice. Kendrick doesn't have
a choice in the matter at this point. If you're
asking someone, if you're asking me, what I think is
(02:23):
happening with media and it's nasty work. But what you're
watching is media try to be a part of this
thing that we call hip hop this moment. If DJ
Academics is really a DJ, I think he will take
that is disrespect knowing that that's really a who Kid exclusive.
That's not a DJ academic exclusive as it pertains to
(02:47):
the Big Three. In media, we saw Adam kind of
go at Joe Budden call him a perkhead, and I
ain't had no problem with the Top three. You know,
your list is your list. It depends on what you
want to listen to. The only thing I said was
that everybody on the Top three each soul. Nah, they're some.
(03:09):
It's for sale now.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Niggas want tonew on me to death, exactly my man, Lord,
my loans, old loan, new loan.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Okay, okay, option it's up there and stuck that n
when it's up there, Man, it's stuck there. Shut up?
Does she following them over? Then others were play with
man and get gone their own. I can't believe we
(03:40):
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(04:46):
a lot. There's a lot going on in the game.
I am the Minister of the culture, Big Loan. I
thank you again, because Hey, I've been able to change
my life. I enjoy speaking to the I enjoy speaking
to people of all walks of life from all around
the world and all these interesting different individuals. It's really
(05:09):
a dream job for me. But let's get into the
meat and potatoes of what's been going on in our culture.
As of today, Kendrick Lamar and Drake are both in
the ring. Kendrick has been hit now going on three times,
and he hasn't throw a punch back. And so what
I'm looking for is Kendrick to come out swinging. What
(05:30):
we have now is a scenario where Drake better be
careful because he can't throw a knockout punch. I don't
know what's gotten into Drake, and I applauded, I'm a
fan of it, but he got a bravado to say,
I don't even respect your punching power. I don't even
respect what you got on your shoulders. Nigga, you ain't
(05:51):
got nothing. This is how Drake looking. If you ask me,
Drake pushing a mean line. Man, Drake pushing a mean
line right now? You dig what I'm saying. And I think, Kendrick,
you gotta be careful. I told y'all last time, what
did I say? Drake is gonna come out and say
what I don't. You're not really a gang banger. That's
(06:13):
not really your thing, that's somebody else thing. You just
cloaking you're cloaking yourself behind these gang bang of niggas
that you be around because you're from the West Coast. Now,
I ain't saying you a pussy, but you ain't a
po rule. Now I ain't saying you a coward, but
you ain't a crip. You dig what I'm saying. So
(06:34):
I think and told y'all that was Drake's angle. And
then what did Drake do? He went and utilized some
AI and this is what he came.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Up with, Kluti Dons rods again.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You can see the odds again for those Unawell, you're
gonna hear Drake voice, You're gonna hear Snoop voice. Let
me not assume that everyone is up today as it
pertains to what artificial intelligence is doing to artistry, and
it's doing to rap, and it's doing the hip hop,
and it's also gonna do the all genres of music.
Let me not be naive and think because I have
(07:13):
a little bit of information about it that is widespread,
So let me explain to you what you're listening to.
You're gonna listen to a voice that sounds like Tupac,
but it's actually Drake. Drake brings to the forefront that
he freestyled this whole thing. But it's more than that
that he did with this. He's robbing Kendrick of talking
(07:34):
points of angles. And if anybody understands angles, it's Drake.
Why because he's in gratiated with battle rap, so he
knows we both can rap. We both got massive fans.
We need to focus on the angles. And he's making this.
He's making this a hell in a sale match. Some
(07:54):
of the shit he doing and how he poking the bell,
he making this a hell in a sale match. You
dig what I'm saying. What can bring chairs out, tables,
nothings may run from the back and jump in right,
it's all kind of They can happen, but you gotta
pay attention. Again, this is a song that is freestyle
according to Drake with artificial intelligence. You're about to hear Tupac,
(08:19):
but it ain't about park Park is just for the
shock value. What you really need to pay attention to
is again, he's robbing them of angles. I spoke about
last week that yo, and he's effective in his own right.
But what they're doing to Kendrick is they're robbing them
of angles. They're robbing them on Shock Factor, The White
Boy the Nose, he Rick Ross unloaded three or four
(08:42):
angles at Drake and so now some of that shock
comes off with Kendrick, and I know Kendrick that want
to be well put together when he come out. And
it's getting hard and harder to mode these other talking
because they they letting you in. And I know it's
from Joe Budden podcast. Is speaking the Symbol. That's who
I'm speaking to. It ain't having no whole bunch of
(09:04):
contexts like that. He's speaking with Symbol, and Symbol is
an that understands rap. He's a rappers rapper, so he
understands some of these things, right. And so when you
hear Drake respond to what he's saying on Joe Butden
podcast from his source, I truly, I'm almost certain it
comes from Symbol. But continue to listen to this record.
(09:26):
Interesting times in hip hop, pay attention.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
We need y'all the West Coast sad. Yeah, ain't greaty
your name, It's some hip hop history.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
And you deal with this visiously.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You seem a little nervous.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
About all the publicity or this Canadian lights kidding dot.
We even know the baby West Coast Victory man. Call
him a bit for me, talk about him like and
yull girls, that's a kid for me. Heard it on
the Button podcast. It's gotta be true. They taught me
Spirit of MOCKA belly is a nob and a nigga
on the five foot five, So.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
It's gotta be you.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I would beat the whole fucking dame. It was me
and stoop Dog have my fucking shirt off in the
House of Blues.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Hey, you gotta fuck this nigga. Girl.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You gotta get a juice. All that shit about learning tattoos,
he's not a music that's Jeff's off for real.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Thubs.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
You gotta be You gotta leave his motherfucker broken and
bruise before we really.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Lose who you are. You see, he's trying to rob
him up them angles and get in his head. I
really don't know Kendrick's background, right, but I can say
with confidence that Drake is a fan of battle rapping.
So what you're gonna see is some of these battle
rap tactics, some of these battle rap tactics that Kendrick
is gonna have to deal with. And this becomes tedious,
(10:44):
but it's effective, and Drake knows is effective because he's
been next to those guys that go up on the
stage and do that for real. He just happened to
be the big call on the lot, you know, so
he got all the bells and whistles and all the
resources at his fingertip. And so Kendrick gotta deal with
like this. But I told y'all that he was gonna
tell him, Yo, you sure you, I'll let for a
(11:07):
thread and all that. You sure that's you? You sure
that's what you want? Are we positive that that's your background?
Are we positive that you are someone that will jump
in the can do some of these things? Are we
positive that if it go down, that you won't run
out of this bill? And I think Drake gonna try
(11:32):
to poke holes in that. Let's continue the smoke now,
seeing you busy for the smoke, I'm gonna live.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
If you got confuse now.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You're about to get this shit another week fall back,
So hold girl, but running up something I would have refused.
Funny street relationships. She not in your shoes.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
You're supposed to be the books, man. Go do what
you do unless it's is a moment that you tell
us it's not really you in that case, there's nothing
left to say. I just passed the snows here.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
What the fuck you really got to do?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Passed you to torch at the House of Blues.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And now you got to do some dirty work.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know how to move right right?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I know you've never been to jail or with jumpsuits
and shower shoots, never shot nobody, never stabbed nobody, never
did nothing, Violet, and know when it's the homiestad empower you.
But still you gotta show this fucking our hostballs on
the western. Now's the time to really make a power move,
because right now it's looking like you're writing out the game,
playing on how to mose, how to bark up the
wrong tree and then get your head popped in the
(12:30):
Pride of room world is watching this chest game, but
on you out of moves Dot. You know the vog
never fucking out at Jules, But right now a scene
like you post it up without a clue of what
the fuck you about to do?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, that's the truth.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I'm definitely about to come around the land gang and
let my fucking fowl move. Shitting on you niggas from
a whole different altitude, high up in.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The sky like I'm howard used.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
The first one really only took me an hour or two.
The next one is really about to bring out the
cowardin you. But now we got to wait a fucking
week because tell a Swift, it's your new top and
if you about to drop, she gotta approve. This girl
really about to make you act like you not in
a few she telling me your schedule with an you
out of the loop? Hey, are you corporate industry puppets?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm not in the mood.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
I love it when you niggas talk loose like I'm
not in the room. Since like that, your tone changed
a little. You not as enthused. How were you not
in the booth? It feel like you kind of removed.
You're trying to let this shit die down. Na, not
this time, nigga, you following through? I guess you need
another week to figure.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Out how to improve. What the fuck is taking so long?
We waiting on you. The rest of y'all are definitely involved.
Y'all getting it.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Too, as soon as you getting the courage to drop.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'm out on the loose.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
On the loose, yeah, shout out to Taylor Swift. Biggest
game set in the music game, right now you know
I moved my album when she dropped.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I said that already.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
You know she about a million I'm doing million rock
on your head, Tide will. She got a whole pg
lang on music like that, and y'all say challenge, y'all,
But it's quiet for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Like I know you're in that ny apartment.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
You struggling right now, I know it. And then no
pad doing lyrical gymnastics. My boy, you better have a
motherfucking quint Tumple Entendre on that shit. Some shit I
don't even understand, Like shit better be crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You're waiting on you. Yeah, the utilization of AI in
this scenario has to be applauded. I do see some
people giving pushback on it, saying that Yo Park didn't
say that you shouldn't utilize his voice that way. Maybe
Kendrick addresses that in the song, and again he's he
keeps loading Kendrick up and not in a good way,
(14:33):
but he's putting more and more on his plate and
building expectation. You better have a triple entundra in there.
I know this seems like a harmless statement on the
end of a song, but fifty sixty percent of fans
of sheep. And so when you hear something like that,
what you're doing is you raising the bar. You raising
(14:55):
the bar, and you're trying to make it hard and
harder for him to be able to reach what what
you were expecting for him to deliver, and so what
I expect Drake to do it as soon as he dropped.
I expect Drake to Yo. I wish he would have
given more an a Ventor door. You know what I'm saying,
he ain't. You know what I'm saying, is that what
you had in store? You know what I'm saying, he
gonna he gonna try to play off? Yo, Man, this ain't.
(15:18):
They didn't all let waiting for that, right? I can
see that angle coming. Boy, Drake gotta be careful if
they play on that angle that Joe Budden and put
out about the Mike Jackson thing. That's very interesting angle
right there. I didn't even think about that. I do
want to say this before I even moved to Joe
Budden and Rick Ross in that hole. Why this beef
(15:40):
kicked off thing, that Michael Jackson angle gets different, that
one can hurt. I think that one can really really
cause him damage and I think he's really leaving Kendrick
no choice but to go for the jugular, like he's
leaving Kendrick no choice. Kendrick doesn't have a choice in
(16:00):
the matter at this point. If you're asking something, if
you're asking me, you know Drake is outside, man, Like, Yo,
let's do this. Come with this shit. You ain't even
signed nowhere for real, You ain't no major for real,
no more nigg This is how he seem to be
playing with him, like he don't even respect his punch.
(16:22):
I remember seeing may what they in the ring, some
of them dudes, and he dancing around like damn then
like he playing, he laughing at them, And this is
what it's seeming like. And he's and that's what he
wants to convey. He wants to put out there that, Yo,
I'm playing with my fool. You ever seen a dog.
I'm kicking this shit around. You ever seen a dog
(16:43):
take you and gave him something He don't want you
to take it, But he justing with it right now.
He keep picking it up, putting it back down, and
playing with my fool. You dig what I'm saying, because
this motherfucker already did. He just don't know it, so
what I'm saying, so take some time to deal with
the angle that Joe Budden podcast put out about cracking
(17:08):
some sort of cold about why this quote unquote my
word to be raped. Roy Rumble started right, let's pay
attention to this clip.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Participate in the big money.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
But I made it or help expedite this, and I'm
sure I did some on the arm for the love
my man's business over the years, regardless of it was
music or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Drake gotta make the call because Tims is not clearing.
What does Drake do with epic business? What does Drake
have to do with epic business? I don't give a
if he apply with Tim. Somebody from Epics should have
been able to get this clear. Pay the bag no
matter what it costs. Drake got a call and say, hey,
(17:53):
Tams clear that, but we only clearing it if I
have a verse on it.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Like what are y'all saying?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Like there is no more running around this issue, yo.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
This That's why I said it is deeper than just
another walking around girls. It's not about that. That might
just be some added insult to whatever, but yo, let
me ask.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You if you drink in an instance, and they call
you and say, Yo, we need some help getting the
clearance from Tims.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Who called me.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't know whoever's heading up the project, right, anybody here,
somebody call you?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Let me be clear too, right, because I don't watch
I don't watch this as much as as we used
to pay attention to what they had going on. So
I don't know what this conversation is about. Seems to
be about teams and trying to get a record clear
than Drake made a phone call and somehow from that
phone call he owns all the music and the music business.
(18:57):
This is a very interesting narrative what I I think
it's happening with media and it's nasty work. But what
you're watching is media try to be a part of
this thing that we call hip hop this moment. And
part of me gets it because I'm newly in this
content world, and so I'm saying, damn, I kind of
understand that they want to be a part of history.
(19:18):
You know. They see academics get on the Drake song,
and it's like dudes are trying to craft them narratives
and create moments that will incorporate well on the end
of a song or on one of these superstars Instagram.
I even saw back in the day when Chief Keith
had put some on one of those songs and niggas
(19:39):
said Chief Keith this and Chief Keith that. Right. This
was a moment where because Chief Keith was already in gaming,
he had got wind of that clip and put it
on his song. Now we're dealing with people from the
media perspective trying to craft and incorporate themselves in this
beef and war, and it is nasty. It feels nasty
(20:00):
to me. I understand the hustle, and I understand want
to be a part of this moment, but it's starting
to feel nasty when people are scratching a car to
try to find a way to be a part of
this this moment. I think organically, if it's happens, it happens,
respect the process. But you're seeing clout chasing on behalf
(20:20):
of a battle that's just at the forefront of popping off. Again,
we don't know what they're speaking about, but if we
go off what we're listening to, it seems to be
that Tims had a record that no one could get cleared.
That record needed to be cleared. Drake made a phone
call and said it can only be cleared if I'm
(20:41):
on it now, if I deal with that by itself. Yo,
If I make the phone call and I need to
be on it, let me be on it if I
want to be on it. If not, I don't make
the phone call. Why am I using my phone call
for something I'm not a part of anyway? Maybe that's
the thinking behind that. You see what I'm saying. Let's
listen some more.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Let's say you ain't it ain't your man, you don't
got no real relationship with them.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I ain't say it with your man.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Y'all.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Y'all might not be beefing, but you're just not nobody.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
The person that called me, we don't have a beef,
but what you're calling me about there's something there. Person
call you because they got the relationship with you. They
know you can make shit happen that they are having
a problem me and you beefing. Ice called you and said, yo,
because you do this off the strength of me. I
know you don't fuck with ish, but I'm gonna get
paid from this and mean a lot to me if
(21:30):
you would do X, Y and Z for me. Oh
So my answer is either no, or yes, it's cleared.
I'm not beefing about that. I'm beefing about I'll clear
it if I'm on it. You wouldn't say that. You
wouldn't say that, or I wouldn't say that. Real why
would I say that?
Speaker 9 (21:49):
That type of pattern starts to build up the animosity
that mother could start to have once they realize, oh, that's.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
The movement you on just in the industry has too
much to say in my career choices.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and my labels and how my label is handling
me especially.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
I mean, you're doing the business the way that they
do the business to you. You are now a part
of the business that we hate dealing with.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I did that in Miami, I did it in Houston,
I did it in Atlanta, I did it in l A,
I did it in London, I did it over.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh, and that's outside of every new artist I'm doing
this with. That's outside of my own classics and slaps.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
No, let's do it because that changed a lot right there.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Ross alliance over there now with him and Meek ship
just came off of there, off the Gamma ship, so
they don't.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Don't have a hand and that ship it could be
you don't have the ship.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You're saying that truth, he probably don't have his hand
in that ship.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So that's what it sounds like, because because at the
same time, that's where sexy Red is.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
So it's not like you can't make it seem I'm
not fucking with that because of that that I say that,
that's true, yere Drake Man, that's what I was really thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Because if you think about it, when he was in
the renegotiation, remember he told Remember he told him, tell Larry,
I need a slice of that apple pie. So guess
what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna sit here on this
couch with Sexy Red and I'm gonna run it up
for my own brand.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
But we know that well, I know I said that right.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Of course, he's not getting paid or incentivized. Nigga, Please
don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And that's and that's smartness. That could be.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
That's not good, that's smart that's his own ship.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
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back to the show. Number one. Let's deal with Drake
and Sexy Red. Right. This is what people who had
these conversations do often on podcasts. They mix two arguments together.
Drake and Sexy rid Ed isn't indicative of Drake and
the rest of the field. Want to be clear on that.
(25:06):
But Drake and Sexy Reds relationship, I'm not sure what
the findings on that. I believe the jury is still out,
but there's an interesting relationship there, just to say the least,
and to leave it because I don't have any evidence,
but I do want to separate those two from the
rest of the field as it pertains to Drake and
his business dealings with the rest of these artists that
(25:28):
we have in mind. This is not an opinion that
is new to the Joe Budden podcast. This is actually
something that's been shuffled around for quite some time, and
so when I heard it in the heat of this moment,
really didn't know how to take it because it had
never got any legs, right, so people must never believe it,
or maybe it was just pushed on the back burner.
(25:51):
I'm not sure, but I never truly bought into that.
I do buy into Drake having a different kind of
deal than most of the rest of the field. But
I don't bite into the fact that he owns everyone
else's contract. I just don't. That's just a reach for
me now on a podcast that speaks as often as
(26:13):
Joe Butden, you got to find a way to talk,
and so you may find yourself manufacturing certain narratives to
meet certain quotas. I don't know if that's the case
in this scenario, but what I will say is Rick
Ross responded and said that one hundred percent wrong. Rick
Ross said Minion's opinions as it pertains to the response
(26:34):
to Joe Buden and it's soliloquy that we'll watch now.
I do give those guys the grace to have this
kind of conversation because that's what part and casting is.
It's getting out there and trying to have his dance
about what information is out there and what it could be.
None of us are right, even if we are right,
because we're saying it before we had the information and
(26:57):
knowing his participation, dig know what I'm saying. So you
have grace to be able to have those conversations. But
I do want to push back on it, you know,
I want to push back as part of the media
and say, yo, I don't agree with that. I believe
that Drake to have a different deal, but I don't
believe him to be in cooperation with everyone else's contract
(27:19):
in the market that's of any notoriety. Of course, we're
not talking about every artist that's lying up and down
every roster, but those that are of notoriety, in particular
ones you saw him do business with. It seems like
they're trying to push out a narrative that he is
in ownership of some percentage. But Rick Ross did push
(27:41):
back on that. I want to place that out there,
pay attention.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Partner whatever, or Drake got a piece and then we
run it. We running it up and everything.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
A few years ago, I supposed to act act kind
of knows about this a little bit.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Larry a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
When he was trying to figure his move out after
whatever happened with him and Apple that.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Is above my pig Rid.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
His plan was to go find the Avengers, like his words,
specifically at the lunch table me and him, I want
to go find the Avengers and create a content, a
new content mega house that nobody can fuck with, right,
(28:28):
so it'll stay there for h No I didn't think
that was that was.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Whose thor who knows.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But what I'm saying is, but even if it's not Drake, right,
just listen to that plan. If you're one of the
people that he comes to, depending on how powerful you
are or how hot you are, how you negotiate, is
gonna come is gonna I'm not shocked an inequity that's
(29:00):
happening now. If you're sexy Red and you say that,
no bit, shut up. If you Rick Ross and you
say that, If you French Montana, if you and you
say that and you say that, I think I might
have said, I gotta answer you. I got you might
If you're saying an adventure one person you would be
willing to give one person that you're gonna give maybe half.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Of this ship to thirty something.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
Stick with your end up being a Nick Curio the
whole situation, and make all that ship work for Larry.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Drake O Summer Gamma.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think Drake would be ironn So I'm looking at
who's get your analogy. I think Larry would be and
I think you and I think I think Drake would
be ironing. So this is this is who's currently Gamma, right,
now and then I'll give you the subs of subsidiaries too, Snoop, Rick, Ross, Usher,
Sexy Red, French, Montana, d Smoke. Subsidiaries are MMG, death Row,
(29:55):
and it says Mega in open Shift.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I'm not familiar with them.
Speaker 9 (29:58):
But then I feel like Drake would have already care
gonna say listen, I can't.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
All right, So it sounds like that they have now
shrunk their argument down to gamble, which I can't speak
to that. At first they were saying that Epic and
all of these record labels, like he had ownership in
the labels. Now they saying gamble because of the relationship
with sixy Red and how he moves with them. I mean,
I don't know that's off the table for right now.
(30:25):
My word to be he's wrong about that. And to
further notice, I need some more information, some palatable information.
But I do like how podcasts are able to have
these conversations. Let's deal with the Big three conversation. We've
heard rumblings of Big three in media. It's an interesting conversation.
We're not going to negate what these people have went
(30:45):
and what they've been able to do. We heard names
get thrown around I think Adam twenty two said it's
him acting Vlad. I think Ax said he's right, it
is him acting Vlad. I think Buttons say it is
him and act right. In these conversations, they really don't
have any legs because they're irrelevant and they're inappropriate, especially
(31:07):
for some of the people that's having them. But we're
entertaining today. We have a podcast and we'll get out
of here shortly after we talk about this in the
NBA Young Boys situation. But let's flush it out. Let's
unpack the conversation of the Big three in media. I
don't have any personal issue with anyone. I acknowledge what's
been brought to the market and what's extracted from the
(31:30):
market as well. I think some people forget about what
people are taking from us and installing in us. I
think they don't really pay attention. Nonetheless, I'm comfortable with
where I land. That you see backpedaling right now coming
from academics on what he said about Joe Budden, because
at first he said, Yo, Adam is right, Joe's not
in the Big three platforms. I think that was disrespectful
(31:54):
if you ask me. But I don't know. Maybe there's
a weird takeover that Adam and Act is about to
try to do. As a p I don't know what's happening,
but there's some weird energy and as it pertains the
Joe Budden's name and top platforms, right, it's some kind
of way. They don't let them creep into that conversation,
even though some would argue that the hip hop commentary
(32:14):
on that side does move culture, right, you got to
pay attention to the narratives that's being pushed out. Pay
attention to the narratives being pushed out. All of these
guys make a lot of money, and I believe when
they talk about money in the game, it separates it
and it separates you. And we got a level of
respect for business on this side. But there's some information
(32:35):
that needs to be placed next to how that money
is being made. The Big Three in media, I see
them turning into ponds and the Rooks right in front
of it, they turning into ponds. Drake could talk to
a nigga on a DM and they'll talk about it
for three hours. I ain't never seen nothing like it.
I ain't never seen nothing like it, And I didn't
(32:57):
have no problem with the top three. You know, your
list is your list. It depends on what you want
to listen to. The only thing I said was that
everybody on the top three eat sold puss it. Nah,
they're eat some pussy as for sale. You dig what
I'm saying, So I don't have the cat. I guess.
You know, to be in the top three of hip
(33:19):
hop media, you gotta eat push it it take like
me a sporn. You dig what I'm saying because you
gotta eat soul puss it, man. You know what I'm saying.
You gotta you dig. But you know what was interesting
for me is I seen about two or three weeks
ago Rod Wave had an incident and I watched DJ
(33:40):
Academics report on it, and he was wrong and that
was something that can affect his life. He called it
crashed out on camera, rod Wave shooting it up, and
you got stuff to live for and all of this,
those charges end up getting dropped. The video had three
hundred and fifty thousand views. He didn't take that down
because that's some money. I ain't taking that down. I
make it of that, even if it creates a narrative
(34:03):
that you some dude out here is crashing out and
shooting up parking lots. You know, from my site, from
where I stand, it looks like there's a value on
fishing in trouble waters. You know, I do believe Actor
is in a golden moment right now. He's being fed
in information. He's being positioned as someone that Drake is
(34:25):
breaking records through. If DJ Academics is really a DJ,
I think he would take that is disrespect knowing that
that's really a who Kid exclusive. That's not a DJ
academic exclusive. That is not a DJ academic exclusive. It's
a who Kid exclusive, and that's why you hear his
tag on it. I think it's unfortunate that maybe I'm
(34:47):
the one to point that out, but out of respect
for the DJ culture, out of respect for that real culture.
It's like, Yo, I believe act to be someone to
help service that record, but that's really a DJ who
kid And out of respect for the DJ community and culture,
I just think it's important that I help you understand
that Academics may have been hired or in position to
(35:11):
help service that record, but as it pertains to it
being Who's exclusive, it says that at the beginning of
the record, it clearly says who Kid, that's a who
Kid exclusive. You see fifty cent involved, that's a who
Kid exclusive. Even without fifty cent involvement, it literally has
its tag on the front of it. Now academics involvement
(35:32):
in the record comes at the end. He literally has
his voice placed on the record by one of the
biggest artists ever in the world. There's something nobody gonna
be able to take from him, right, And so that's
a place that Drake put him in. But as it
pertains to who record that is, I just want to
be clear out of respect for the DJ community, and
(35:53):
I thought DJ Academics was a DJ, so it's unfortunate
that he's not respecting the real DJ community. It's like, bro,
you know that's a who is say who Kid? When
you just like if it's say Clue, I don't give
a fuck what DJ played. If it's a DJ drummer
Gangster Grills, that's a Gangster Grills joint, I don't care
(36:15):
when you got it. You see what I'm saying. I'm
just putting you up on some game. But it's great
marketing and narrative and perspective that they pushing out on
the public. But you gotta know what to pick up
and what to put down. It's a difference as it
pertains to the Big three D media. We saw Adam
kind of go at Joe Budden, call him a perkhead
and put his YouTube numbers up against Joe Budden's YouTube
(36:39):
numbers and said, Joe Budden is running a chop shop.
I think that's an interesting metaphor for Adam to you
seeing that he's someone that literally is running people in
and out of that building, in and off of that show.
Dudes is threatening to sue niggas is getting right. So
it's a lot going on to be calling the Joe
Budon podcast chop shop. They've been kind of in the
(37:02):
same position for the last couple of years, So I
think even your position to start going at it with him,
what is it grounded then if it's positioned in that way,
because I think it's dishonest, especially for somebody that has
had to flush the whole crew the same way Joe did.
And I think reasonably if you put him side by side,
(37:22):
you're like, yo, we both flushed the crew. It both
kind of got messy. They both have this messy element
to the platforms. I think Adam twenty two seems a
little more dangerous because he has gang bangers around, and
I believe some politics that happened in a way where
whoever's in position to protect the place has to fall
(37:42):
back and let let somebody handle what they need to handle.
These dudes making money. But as it pertains the big
three year o, everybody got they list. These guys are powerful,
these guys got big platforms. We salute everybody in the game.
Ain't no hating coming from us, right, We're gonna be okay.
We're here for the long haul. We can handle this
(38:04):
thing from here on that, you know, from whatever y'all
left over, We'll take it warming up and put it
out there for the people. Dig what I'm saying. We
don't need no help. NBA Young Boy has now been
arrested for what fees are calling running a prescription drug ring. Now,
at the time of this video, all we know is
if he has sixty three charges and there's a lot
(38:29):
of crimes of legs that he's committed. Let's listen to
what the news has presented in Utah as to why
the rapper Cantrell, better known as NBA Young Boy, has
been arrested. There's dozens of charges.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
As we have reported, Mark that he was taken into
custody in Cash County accused of organizing fraudulent drug prescriptions
at Utah Pharmacies legally noticed Kent Trell Golden has been
on house arrest in Utah since twenty twenty one. R. L.
Harris a live tonight after speaking with one of those
targeted businesses, Ril.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Yeah, Well, one pharmacist I spoke with, said they thankfully
didn't fulfill that order as they noticed some red flags,
but unfortunately others weren't so lucky. Now tonight, the young celebrity,
who already had a criminal history, now faces more than
sixty related charges too this alleged scheme. Pharmacy owner Eric
Stewart says hearing news have an arrest and the frauding
(39:28):
investigation involving his business was a relief.
Speaker 7 (39:30):
You know.
Speaker 11 (39:30):
I'm just happy that they were able to connect the dots.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Last September, Stuart says his team at Reads Pharmacy and
Hiram got a call from someone claiming to be a
doctor needing to fill a prescription, something he called the
first red flag.
Speaker 11 (39:44):
Usually don't get a doctor calling in a call serve themselves,
that'll be like a nurse or something. But then just
their medical terminology was off, the quantities, the way they
pronounced the things, everything was suspicious.
Speaker 8 (39:58):
Like Stuart's case arrest documents were multiple other pharmacies across Utah.
We're targeted too. According to investigators, Callers linked to Young
Boy would call in prescriptions using the name of a
real doctor and provo in some cases, but giving fake
patient information. Individuals would then pick up the order from pharmacies,
mainly promethicine and coding.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
These medications they are trying to get are regulated, and
so throwing a chink in the I guess process can
really disrupt potential opportunities to get the medication you actually need.
Speaker 8 (40:30):
Weaver County Sheriff's teams help take Golden into custody with
federal partners just yesterday.
Speaker 11 (40:35):
We believe this to be several more months of work
for US.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
Efforts local business owners like Stewart appreciate, but when.
Speaker 11 (40:42):
It's on a bigger scale like this, it's more concerning, right,
because they're pretty persistent, and I mean, it's just a
big disruption to us, and it's what just a headache
press up to do with.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
I was talking to my part another other day. You know,
I'm having home boards the people that I know in
the neighborhood going through things. You know, you know some
of them at war, you know, some of them nursing
theyself back to health. You know, I'm having people that's
out there in the field. And I was talking to
one of my player partners the other day and I
(41:15):
was telling them, like a lot of the people in
the street, they'll be waiting on the police. They the
only people that don't know that they waiting on the
police to pick them up. I had a homeboy that
was involved in a shooting and he had a warrant,
and he kind of knew he had a warrant, so
(41:36):
the police was bad as bed. For those of y'all
that's ever had a warrant and been to the hospital,
thank god, I've never been in that scenario. But what
they say is that you don't get access to the phone,
you really can't move, and the police is kind of
really by your door, by your bedside, right because they
gonna take you into custod as soon as you nurse
back to health. While he was in the beds, the
(42:02):
police was there for a minute and all of a
sudden they left out. Nothing's materialized from it. But what
I'm getting from it is that there's probably investigation going on,
because when you're in a scenario, you gotta remember these
people to sit back and investigate. Oh damn, we ain't
know nothing about this. This is our first peek at
over here. Damn this what he had. We been wondering
(42:24):
where they was at fall back. Don't nobody charge, nobody,
get away from them. And so when I saw NBA
young boy take that picture with them zagnacs, if you
paid attention to the timeline, they called him in the
court like a week or two after that, maybe a
month after that, and they requested, man, you gotta stop
taking these drugs. And then they presented some pushback like no,
(42:47):
why would I stop taking some drugs? If you've been
following me, I always tell you we search for information,
and there's a lot of information in questions, not in
answers and questions. That's information. And so when the question
is why you taking these pills? That tells me what
they don't think they legit. Something about them is putting
(43:08):
them in a position of where they can even question it.
Because if I'm operating in the confines of the law,
and I have went to a doctor that has an NPI,
that that is practicing under the law and positioning me
to be in a position to get it. How can
they say something. They wouldn't say anything because they couldn't
say anything. So the mere fact that they said something
(43:30):
should tell you what they probably had reason to believe
that either they wasn't prescribed to you. You got them fraudulently.
Something's up with the prescription. He told them no and
kept and kept taking them. I was interested in the picture.
What was the picture for? What did it prove? What
did it do? Was it a cry for help? Because
when you listen to what these people just said, it
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sounded like you dealing with a super problem that's on
this young man hand. Well, he's addicted. He's addicted in
a way where he's doing it hisself. I don't even
want to split this shit. And only those of you
that been down through there know about this here, you
don't even want to split. I'mna go, nigga. You will
see DMX in my city at the trap, God rest
(44:16):
his soul. But anybody in my town, no, I ain't lying.
You'll walk in the trap and see DMX because you
don't even want to center nigga. It's too much going on.
Half of the game is once they get it, take
something from it, even though they being paid, and then
hit you with it. It's just too much involved in it.
You only get that information being in the street. So
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niggas show up theyself when they addict it. Now for
them to say he making the phone called by hisself,
I said, damn, that's deep. So when you look into it,
they say the reason they got on them is because
two or three different things. I'll try to speak to
two of them, one being his accent. I'm gonna sit
that to the side for a second and deal with
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just how they were picking up a prescription in his vehicle,
and so they pulled that vehicle over and had plenty
of prescriptions in there, and they had just got sloppy
with it. You see what I'm saying. When they pulled
this call in, it belonged to him. Now, oh now
this is two and two now starting to make sense.
Now on the other side, for them to continue to
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be front facing saying that it was his accent that
drew attention, I'm not sure. I'm comfortable with how that feels,
because they can easily be somebody that is from New
Orleans that is a doctor. Now, to say that a
doctor usually doesn't call for that kind of thing, that's
one thing. But for them to blatantly be coming out
and saying, because of that accent, I know that that
(45:45):
isn't a doctor. I believe that's kind of that feel nasty.
That really feels nasty to me, and they continue to
say it. It's like, yo, because of that accent. We
heard them say ask, we heard him say acts instead
of ask. And so when we heard that, we knew, man,
that ain't no doctor. I'm gonna call the FBI about that.
(46:08):
I'm gonna refuse the prescription about that. And the fortunate
thing that these pharmacists have, they have the right to
say no at this particular pharmacy, we're not gonna do it,
and then they'll call the doctor. Now, when they called
the doctor and the doctor said that ain't no good,
that ain't us, that's what a problem was, and that
(46:28):
starts the investigation. And now for him to have all
that shit allegedly in the house, that ties all of
that to the scenario that they're painting I think he's
gonna have trouble wiggling out. Now, it's a big house.
You're on house arrest, and you're supposed to report the
people that come there, and so if it ain't but
one or two people, then we find in this kind
(46:50):
of shit, it ain't really nobody else to put it on.
And it's a gun in here, you got security, but
then it's another gun in here. You know what I'm saying.
It's like it's gonna be rough on him. He may
have to lay it down, he may be finna have
to lay it down. But it clearly seems to be
some abusing the drugs there. You know. I was talking
(47:13):
to my homeboys the other day about the journey of
getting off opios, and man, one thing you hear all
across the board is that journey is one of the
hardest journeys of people lives, and a lot of these
individuals that got on these through doctors and getting off
of them are one of the hardest things in their lives.
(47:34):
They spoke the depression on getting off of them. One
of my homeboys is like, man, I made fifteen grand,
I made nine grand or some shit, and I still
just in the house just feeling bad about myself. You
say you get over it, but there was a scenario
where he felt that. But the dude needs some help.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
You know what I'm saying. When you take a picture
like that on federal papers, out on a monitor on
house arrest, yeah, you probably need some help. You know
what I mean. You ain't ready for this kind of battle.
These federal people got you in because they got you
with a mental mayhem battle. They trying to whoop on you.
(48:19):
They trying to mentally beat you up right, So if
you ain't mentally strong dealing with the fizz, it's gonna
be a problem break you down. I keep telling y'all,
isolation is still like jail. I don't give a fuck
it because it's a house in the hills. Isolation is
still like jail. You don't get around it because you
got money. The human universal law is in effect. You
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supposed to feel things when you do things like this.
Universal law. Go up, come down, universal law, The sun
must rise. All things will work in the good favor
of those that love the Lord. You dig what I'm saying.
It's universal law. Now. I believe them to go and
pull the phone calls from these pharmacies. How far do
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they go back? Can they prove that's him on the call?
Can they prove what a call came from? They have
his cell phone, They allegedly said he tried to break
it or had told them to break it when they asked,
can they get entry to it? Right? So there's a
scenario that young boys placed himself in. Now it's gonna
be hard to bag out of this one. Now are
they reaching saying he's running a drug ring? In my opinion, yes,
(49:28):
I think you're dealing with a young dude that's just
trying to feed his He trying to feed what he
got going on, feed his addiction. I'm in the house
twenty four hours a day. I'm trying to stay high. Hi,
stay high. I'm in the house all day. I'm staying
bullet all day long. So I think he's feeding his
addiction and they're placing it as a drug ring. Now,
(49:48):
a drug ring could be when you go to multiple places,
states or otherwise to try to get drugs, and that's
maybe where they got him at. He'll have good lawyers.
They gonna have to try to look at and see
what exactly what we're looking at. I particularly didn't like
the vernacular being a part of the conversation that someone
with a Southern dialect. I don't appreciate the fact that
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we say that yo, hey, because he called and we
heard him use a certain vernacular, we knew that that
wasn't a doctor or that didn't come from a doctor's office.
I believe hip hop to be one of the most
powerful marketing vehicles that this world has ever experienced. And
I think the downplay hip hop and act like he
can't live on the cutting edge of the medical industry,
(50:33):
I would believe that to be a problem. And so
for white people, black people, and all people that may
hear the sound of my voice, I want to let
you know that it's at least one person that's pushing
back on just because he sounded like he from the
South and maybe be from New Orleans or maybe be
a part of hip hop culture, that he could have
been a doctor. Unfortunately he wasn't and he was lying.
(50:56):
Whoever that may have been knowing this participation, I don't
know who was on the phone, but I know if
they're saying that it wasn't a doctor and it's been
a lige that they've reached out to the doctor's office,
and it wasn't that doctor. I think it's safe to
say that it wasn't a doctor. But whoever it was,
I don't think just because the Southern dialect is presented
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to reject the business. That's a whole nother conversation. Look,
drug ring, whatever they got, the fez one it, whoever's
on it. They gotta deal with the cars that they
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I don't know what's gotten into Drake, and I applauded,
(00:03):
I'm a fan of it. But he got a bravado
to say, I don't even respect your punching power. I
don't even respect what you got on your shoulders. He
ain't got nothing. This is how Drake looking. If you
ask me, you dig what I'm saying. And I think, Kendrick,
you gotta be careful. I told y'all last time, what
did I say? Drake is gonna come out and say
(00:25):
what I don't You're not really a gang banger. That's
not really a thing. That's somebody else thinking. You just cloaking,
cloaking yourself behind these gang bangers that you be around
because you're from the West Coast. Now, I ain't saying
you a city, but you ain't a pow rule I think.
(00:47):
And told y'all that was Drake's angle. And then what
did Drake do? He went and utilized some AI and
this is what he came over. Does Rose again? You
can see them my odds again. For those unaware, you're
(01:10):
gonna hear Drake voice, You're gonna hear Snoop voice. Let
me not assume that everyone is up today. As it
pertains to what artificial intelligence is doing to artistry, and
it's doing to rap, and it's doing the hip hop,
and it's also gonna do the all genres of music.
Let me not be naive and think, because I have
a little bit of information about it that is widespread,
(01:33):
you're gonna listen to a voice that sounds like Tupac,
but it's actually Drake. Drake brings to the forefront that
he freestyled this whole thing, but it's more than that
that he did with this. He's robbing Kendrick of talking
points of angles. And if anybody understands angles, it's Drake. Why,
Because he's in gratiated with battle rap. He's trying to
(01:59):
rob him of them angles and get in his head.
I really don't know Kendrick's background, right, but I can
say with confidence that Drake is a fan of battle rapping.
So what you're gonna see is some of these battle
rap technics he's leaving Kendrick no choice. Kendrick doesn't have
a choice in the matter at this point. If you're
asking someone, if you're asking me, what I think is
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happening with media and it's nasty work. But what you're
watching is media try to be a part of this
thing that we call hip hop this moment. If DJ
Academics is really a DJ, I think he will take
that is disrespect knowing that that's really a who Kid exclusive.
That's not a DJ academic exclusive as it pertains to
(02:47):
the Big Three. In media, we saw Adam kind of
go at Joe Budden call him a perkhead, and I
ain't had no problem with the Top three. You know,
your list is your list. It depends on what you
want to listen to. The only thing I said was
that everybody on the Top three each soul. Nah, they're some.
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It's for sale now.
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Niggas want tonew on me to death, exactly my man, Lord,
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Okay, okay, option it's up there and stuck that n
when it's up there, Man, it's stuck there. Shut up?
Does she following them over? Then others were play with
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a lot. There's a lot going on in the game.
I am the Minister of the culture, Big Loan. I
thank you again, because Hey, I've been able to change
my life. I enjoy speaking to the I enjoy speaking
to people of all walks of life from all around
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a dream job for me. But let's get into the
meat and potatoes of what's been going on in our culture.
As of today, Kendrick Lamar and Drake are both in
the ring. Kendrick has been hit now going on three times,
and he hasn't throw a punch back. And so what
I'm looking for is Kendrick to come out swinging. What
(05:30):
we have now is a scenario where Drake better be
careful because he can't throw a knockout punch. I don't
know what's gotten into Drake, and I applauded, I'm a
fan of it, but he got a bravado to say,
I don't even respect your punching power. I don't even
respect what you got on your shoulders. Nigga, you ain't
(05:51):
got nothing. This is how Drake looking. If you ask me,
Drake pushing a mean line. Man, Drake pushing a mean
line right now? You dig what I'm saying. And I think, Kendrick,
you gotta be careful. I told y'all last time, what
did I say? Drake is gonna come out and say
what I don't. You're not really a gang banger. That's
(06:13):
not really your thing, that's somebody else thing. You just
cloaking you're cloaking yourself behind these gang bang of niggas
that you be around because you're from the West Coast. Now,
I ain't saying you a pussy, but you ain't a
po rule. Now I ain't saying you a coward, but
you ain't a crip. You dig what I'm saying. So
(06:34):
I think and told y'all that was Drake's angle. And
then what did Drake do? He went and utilized some
AI and this is what he came.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Up with, Kluti Dons rods again.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You can see the odds again for those Unawell, you're
gonna hear Drake voice, You're gonna hear Snoop voice. Let
me not assume that everyone is up today as it
pertains to what artificial intelligence is doing to artistry, and
it's doing to rap, and it's doing the hip hop,
and it's also gonna do the all genres of music.
Let me not be naive and think because I have
(07:13):
a little bit of information about it that is widespread,
So let me explain to you what you're listening to.
You're gonna listen to a voice that sounds like Tupac,
but it's actually Drake. Drake brings to the forefront that
he freestyled this whole thing. But it's more than that
that he did with this. He's robbing Kendrick of talking
(07:34):
points of angles. And if anybody understands angles, it's Drake.
Why because he's in gratiated with battle rap, so he
knows we both can rap. We both got massive fans.
We need to focus on the angles. And he's making this.
He's making this a hell in a sale match. Some
(07:54):
of the shit he doing and how he poking the bell,
he making this a hell in a sale match. You
dig what I'm saying. What can bring chairs out, tables,
nothings may run from the back and jump in right,
it's all kind of They can happen, but you gotta
pay attention. Again, this is a song that is freestyle
according to Drake with artificial intelligence. You're about to hear Tupac,
(08:19):
but it ain't about park Park is just for the
shock value. What you really need to pay attention to
is again, he's robbing them of angles. I spoke about
last week that yo, and he's effective in his own right.
But what they're doing to Kendrick is they're robbing them
of angles. They're robbing them on Shock Factor, The White
Boy the Nose, he Rick Ross unloaded three or four
(08:42):
angles at Drake and so now some of that shock
comes off with Kendrick, and I know Kendrick that want
to be well put together when he come out. And
it's getting hard and harder to mode these other talking
because they they letting you in. And I know it's
from Joe Budden podcast. Is speaking the Symbol. That's who
I'm speaking to. It ain't having no whole bunch of
(09:04):
contexts like that. He's speaking with Symbol, and Symbol is
an that understands rap. He's a rappers rapper, so he
understands some of these things, right. And so when you
hear Drake respond to what he's saying on Joe Butden
podcast from his source, I truly, I'm almost certain it
comes from Symbol. But continue to listen to this record.
(09:26):
Interesting times in hip hop, pay attention.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
We need y'all the West Coast sad. Yeah, ain't greaty
your name, It's some hip hop history.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
And you deal with this visiously.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You seem a little nervous.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
About all the publicity or this Canadian lights kidding dot.
We even know the baby West Coast Victory man. Call
him a bit for me, talk about him like and
yull girls, that's a kid for me. Heard it on
the Button podcast. It's gotta be true. They taught me
Spirit of MOCKA belly is a nob and a nigga
on the five foot five, So.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
It's gotta be you.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I would beat the whole fucking dame. It was me
and stoop Dog have my fucking shirt off in the
House of Blues.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Hey, you gotta fuck this nigga. Girl.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You gotta get a juice. All that shit about learning tattoos,
he's not a music that's Jeff's off for real.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Thubs.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
You gotta be You gotta leave his motherfucker broken and
bruise before we really.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Lose who you are. You see, he's trying to rob
him up them angles and get in his head. I
really don't know Kendrick's background, right, but I can say
with confidence that Drake is a fan of battle rapping.
So what you're gonna see is some of these battle
rap tactics, some of these battle rap tactics that Kendrick
is gonna have to deal with. And this becomes tedious,
(10:44):
but it's effective, and Drake knows is effective because he's
been next to those guys that go up on the
stage and do that for real. He just happened to
be the big call on the lot, you know, so
he got all the bells and whistles and all the
resources at his fingertip. And so Kendrick gotta deal with
like this. But I told y'all that he was gonna
tell him, Yo, you sure you, I'll let for a
(11:07):
thread and all that. You sure that's you? You sure
that's what you want? Are we positive that that's your background?
Are we positive that you are someone that will jump
in the can do some of these things? Are we
positive that if it go down, that you won't run
out of this bill? And I think Drake gonna try
(11:32):
to poke holes in that. Let's continue the smoke now,
seeing you busy for the smoke, I'm gonna live.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
If you got confuse now.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You're about to get this shit another week fall back,
So hold girl, but running up something I would have refused.
Funny street relationships. She not in your shoes.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
You're supposed to be the books, man. Go do what
you do unless it's is a moment that you tell
us it's not really you in that case, there's nothing
left to say. I just passed the snows here.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
What the fuck you really got to do?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Passed you to torch at the House of Blues.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And now you got to do some dirty work.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know how to move right right?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I know you've never been to jail or with jumpsuits
and shower shoots, never shot nobody, never stabbed nobody, never
did nothing, Violet, and know when it's the homiestad empower you.
But still you gotta show this fucking our hostballs on
the western. Now's the time to really make a power move,
because right now it's looking like you're writing out the game,
playing on how to mose, how to bark up the
wrong tree and then get your head popped in the
(12:30):
Pride of room world is watching this chest game, but
on you out of moves Dot. You know the vog
never fucking out at Jules, But right now a scene
like you post it up without a clue of what
the fuck you about to do?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, that's the truth.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I'm definitely about to come around the land gang and
let my fucking fowl move. Shitting on you niggas from
a whole different altitude, high up in.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The sky like I'm howard used.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
The first one really only took me an hour or two.
The next one is really about to bring out the
cowardin you. But now we got to wait a fucking
week because tell a Swift, it's your new top and
if you about to drop, she gotta approve. This girl
really about to make you act like you not in
a few she telling me your schedule with an you
out of the loop? Hey, are you corporate industry puppets?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm not in the mood.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
I love it when you niggas talk loose like I'm
not in the room. Since like that, your tone changed
a little. You not as enthused. How were you not
in the booth? It feel like you kind of removed.
You're trying to let this shit die down. Na, not
this time, nigga, you following through? I guess you need
another week to figure.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Out how to improve. What the fuck is taking so long?
We waiting on you. The rest of y'all are definitely involved.
Y'all getting it.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Too, as soon as you getting the courage to drop.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'm out on the loose.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
On the loose, yeah, shout out to Taylor Swift. Biggest
game set in the music game, right now you know
I moved my album when she dropped.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I said that already.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
You know she about a million I'm doing million rock
on your head, Tide will. She got a whole pg
lang on music like that, and y'all say challenge, y'all,
But it's quiet for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Like I know you're in that ny apartment.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
You struggling right now, I know it. And then no
pad doing lyrical gymnastics. My boy, you better have a
motherfucking quint Tumple Entendre on that shit. Some shit I
don't even understand, Like shit better be crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You're waiting on you. Yeah, the utilization of AI in
this scenario has to be applauded. I do see some
people giving pushback on it, saying that Yo Park didn't
say that you shouldn't utilize his voice that way. Maybe
Kendrick addresses that in the song, and again he's he
keeps loading Kendrick up and not in a good way,
(14:33):
but he's putting more and more on his plate and
building expectation. You better have a triple entundra in there.
I know this seems like a harmless statement on the
end of a song, but fifty sixty percent of fans
of sheep. And so when you hear something like that,
what you're doing is you raising the bar. You raising
(14:55):
the bar, and you're trying to make it hard and
harder for him to be able to reach what what
you were expecting for him to deliver, and so what
I expect Drake to do it as soon as he dropped.
I expect Drake to Yo. I wish he would have
given more an a Ventor door. You know what I'm saying,
he ain't. You know what I'm saying, is that what
you had in store? You know what I'm saying, he
gonna he gonna try to play off? Yo, Man, this ain't.
(15:18):
They didn't all let waiting for that, right? I can
see that angle coming. Boy, Drake gotta be careful if
they play on that angle that Joe Budden and put
out about the Mike Jackson thing. That's very interesting angle
right there. I didn't even think about that. I do
want to say this before I even moved to Joe
Budden and Rick Ross in that hole. Why this beef
(15:40):
kicked off thing, that Michael Jackson angle gets different, that
one can hurt. I think that one can really really
cause him damage and I think he's really leaving Kendrick
no choice but to go for the jugular, like he's
leaving Kendrick no choice. Kendrick doesn't have a choice in
(16:00):
the matter at this point. If you're asking something, if
you're asking me, you know Drake is outside, man, Like, Yo,
let's do this. Come with this shit. You ain't even
signed nowhere for real, You ain't no major for real,
no more nigg This is how he seem to be
playing with him, like he don't even respect his punch.
(16:22):
I remember seeing may what they in the ring, some
of them dudes, and he dancing around like damn then
like he playing, he laughing at them, And this is
what it's seeming like. And he's and that's what he
wants to convey. He wants to put out there that, Yo,
I'm playing with my fool. You ever seen a dog.
I'm kicking this shit around. You ever seen a dog
(16:43):
take you and gave him something He don't want you
to take it, But he justing with it right now.
He keep picking it up, putting it back down, and
playing with my fool. You dig what I'm saying, because
this motherfucker already did. He just don't know it, so
what I'm saying, so take some time to deal with
the angle that Joe Budden podcast put out about cracking
(17:08):
some sort of cold about why this quote unquote my
word to be raped. Roy Rumble started right, let's pay
attention to this clip.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Participate in the big money.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
But I made it or help expedite this, and I'm
sure I did some on the arm for the love
my man's business over the years, regardless of it was
music or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Drake gotta make the call because Tims is not clearing.
What does Drake do with epic business? What does Drake
have to do with epic business? I don't give a
if he apply with Tim. Somebody from Epics should have
been able to get this clear. Pay the bag no
matter what it costs. Drake got a call and say, hey,
(17:53):
Tams clear that, but we only clearing it if I
have a verse on it.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Like what are y'all saying?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Like there is no more running around this issue, yo.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
This That's why I said it is deeper than just
another walking around girls. It's not about that. That might
just be some added insult to whatever, but yo, let
me ask.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You if you drink in an instance, and they call
you and say, Yo, we need some help getting the
clearance from Tims.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Who called me.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't know whoever's heading up the project, right, anybody here,
somebody call you?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Let me be clear too, right, because I don't watch
I don't watch this as much as as we used
to pay attention to what they had going on. So
I don't know what this conversation is about. Seems to
be about teams and trying to get a record clear
than Drake made a phone call and somehow from that
phone call he owns all the music and the music business.
(18:57):
This is a very interesting narrative what I I think
it's happening with media and it's nasty work. But what
you're watching is media try to be a part of
this thing that we call hip hop this moment. And
part of me gets it because I'm newly in this
content world, and so I'm saying, damn, I kind of
understand that they want to be a part of history.
(19:18):
You know. They see academics get on the Drake song,
and it's like dudes are trying to craft them narratives
and create moments that will incorporate well on the end
of a song or on one of these superstars Instagram.
I even saw back in the day when Chief Keith
had put some on one of those songs and niggas
(19:39):
said Chief Keith this and Chief Keith that. Right. This
was a moment where because Chief Keith was already in gaming,
he had got wind of that clip and put it
on his song. Now we're dealing with people from the
media perspective trying to craft and incorporate themselves in this
beef and war, and it is nasty. It feels nasty
(20:00):
to me. I understand the hustle, and I understand want
to be a part of this moment, but it's starting
to feel nasty when people are scratching a car to
try to find a way to be a part of
this this moment. I think organically, if it's happens, it happens,
respect the process. But you're seeing clout chasing on behalf
(20:20):
of a battle that's just at the forefront of popping off. Again,
we don't know what they're speaking about, but if we
go off what we're listening to, it seems to be
that Tims had a record that no one could get cleared.
That record needed to be cleared. Drake made a phone
call and said it can only be cleared if I'm
(20:41):
on it now, if I deal with that by itself. Yo,
If I make the phone call and I need to
be on it, let me be on it if I
want to be on it. If not, I don't make
the phone call. Why am I using my phone call
for something I'm not a part of anyway? Maybe that's
the thinking behind that. You see what I'm saying. Let's
listen some more.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Let's say you ain't it ain't your man, you don't
got no real relationship with them.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I ain't say it with your man.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Y'all.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Y'all might not be beefing, but you're just not nobody.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
The person that called me, we don't have a beef,
but what you're calling me about there's something there. Person
call you because they got the relationship with you. They
know you can make shit happen that they are having
a problem me and you beefing. Ice called you and said, yo,
because you do this off the strength of me. I
know you don't fuck with ish, but I'm gonna get
paid from this and mean a lot to me if
(21:30):
you would do X, Y and Z for me. Oh
So my answer is either no, or yes, it's cleared.
I'm not beefing about that. I'm beefing about I'll clear
it if I'm on it. You wouldn't say that. You
wouldn't say that, or I wouldn't say that. Real why
would I say that?
Speaker 9 (21:49):
That type of pattern starts to build up the animosity
that mother could start to have once they realize, oh, that's.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
The movement you on just in the industry has too
much to say in my career choices.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and my labels and how my label is handling
me especially.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
I mean, you're doing the business the way that they
do the business to you. You are now a part
of the business that we hate dealing with.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I did that in Miami, I did it in Houston,
I did it in Atlanta, I did it in l A,
I did it in London, I did it over.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh, and that's outside of every new artist I'm doing
this with. That's outside of my own classics and slaps.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
No, let's do it because that changed a lot right there.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Ross alliance over there now with him and Meek ship
just came off of there, off the Gamma ship, so
they don't.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Don't have a hand and that ship it could be
you don't have the ship.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You're saying that truth, he probably don't have his hand
in that ship.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So that's what it sounds like, because because at the
same time, that's where sexy Red is.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
So it's not like you can't make it seem I'm
not fucking with that because of that that I say that,
that's true, yere Drake Man, that's what I was really thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Because if you think about it, when he was in
the renegotiation, remember he told Remember he told him, tell Larry,
I need a slice of that apple pie. So guess
what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna sit here on this
couch with Sexy Red and I'm gonna run it up
for my own brand.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
But we know that well, I know I said that right.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Of course, he's not getting paid or incentivized. Nigga, Please
don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And that's and that's smartness. That could be.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
That's not good, that's smart that's his own ship.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
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back to the show. Number one. Let's deal with Drake
and Sexy Red. Right. This is what people who had
these conversations do often on podcasts. They mix two arguments together.
Drake and Sexy rid Ed isn't indicative of Drake and
the rest of the field. Want to be clear on that.
(25:06):
But Drake and Sexy Reds relationship, I'm not sure what
the findings on that. I believe the jury is still out,
but there's an interesting relationship there, just to say the least,
and to leave it because I don't have any evidence,
but I do want to separate those two from the
rest of the field as it pertains to Drake and
his business dealings with the rest of these artists that
(25:28):
we have in mind. This is not an opinion that
is new to the Joe Budden podcast. This is actually
something that's been shuffled around for quite some time, and
so when I heard it in the heat of this moment,
really didn't know how to take it because it had
never got any legs, right, so people must never believe it,
or maybe it was just pushed on the back burner.
(25:51):
I'm not sure, but I never truly bought into that.
I do buy into Drake having a different kind of
deal than most of the rest of the field. But
I don't bite into the fact that he owns everyone
else's contract. I just don't. That's just a reach for
me now on a podcast that speaks as often as
(26:13):
Joe Butden, you got to find a way to talk,
and so you may find yourself manufacturing certain narratives to
meet certain quotas. I don't know if that's the case
in this scenario, but what I will say is Rick
Ross responded and said that one hundred percent wrong. Rick
Ross said Minion's opinions as it pertains to the response
(26:34):
to Joe Buden and it's soliloquy that we'll watch now.
I do give those guys the grace to have this
kind of conversation because that's what part and casting is.
It's getting out there and trying to have his dance
about what information is out there and what it could be.
None of us are right, even if we are right,
because we're saying it before we had the information and
(26:57):
knowing his participation, dig know what I'm saying. So you
have grace to be able to have those conversations. But
I do want to push back on it, you know,
I want to push back as part of the media
and say, yo, I don't agree with that. I believe
that Drake to have a different deal, but I don't
believe him to be in cooperation with everyone else's contract
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in the market that's of any notoriety. Of course, we're
not talking about every artist that's lying up and down
every roster, but those that are of notoriety, in particular
ones you saw him do business with. It seems like
they're trying to push out a narrative that he is
in ownership of some percentage. But Rick Ross did push
(27:41):
back on that. I want to place that out there,
pay attention.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Partner whatever, or Drake got a piece and then we
run it. We running it up and everything.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
A few years ago, I supposed to act act kind
of knows about this a little bit.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Larry a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
When he was trying to figure his move out after
whatever happened with him and Apple that.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Is above my pig Rid.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
His plan was to go find the Avengers, like his words,
specifically at the lunch table me and him, I want
to go find the Avengers and create a content, a
new content mega house that nobody can fuck with, right,
(28:28):
so it'll stay there for h No I didn't think
that was that was.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Whose thor who knows.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But what I'm saying is, but even if it's not Drake, right,
just listen to that plan. If you're one of the
people that he comes to, depending on how powerful you
are or how hot you are, how you negotiate, is
gonna come is gonna I'm not shocked an inequity that's
(29:00):
happening now. If you're sexy Red and you say that,
no bit, shut up. If you Rick Ross and you
say that, If you French Montana, if you and you
say that and you say that, I think I might
have said, I gotta answer you. I got you might
If you're saying an adventure one person you would be
willing to give one person that you're gonna give maybe half.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Of this ship to thirty something.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
Stick with your end up being a Nick Curio the
whole situation, and make all that ship work for Larry.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Drake O Summer Gamma.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think Drake would be ironn So I'm looking at
who's get your analogy. I think Larry would be and
I think you and I think I think Drake would
be ironing. So this is this is who's currently Gamma, right,
now and then I'll give you the subs of subsidiaries too, Snoop, Rick, Ross, Usher,
Sexy Red, French, Montana, d Smoke. Subsidiaries are MMG, death Row,
(29:55):
and it says Mega in open Shift.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I'm not familiar with them.
Speaker 9 (29:58):
But then I feel like Drake would have already care
gonna say listen, I can't.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
All right, So it sounds like that they have now
shrunk their argument down to gamble, which I can't speak
to that. At first they were saying that Epic and
all of these record labels, like he had ownership in
the labels. Now they saying gamble because of the relationship
with sixy Red and how he moves with them. I mean,
I don't know that's off the table for right now.
(30:25):
My word to be he's wrong about that. And to
further notice, I need some more information, some palatable information.
But I do like how podcasts are able to have
these conversations. Let's deal with the Big three conversation. We've
heard rumblings of Big three in media. It's an interesting conversation.
We're not going to negate what these people have went
(30:45):
and what they've been able to do. We heard names
get thrown around I think Adam twenty two said it's
him acting Vlad. I think Ax said he's right, it
is him acting Vlad. I think Buttons say it is
him and act right. In these conversations, they really don't
have any legs because they're irrelevant and they're inappropriate, especially
(31:07):
for some of the people that's having them. But we're
entertaining today. We have a podcast and we'll get out
of here shortly after we talk about this in the
NBA Young Boys situation. But let's flush it out. Let's
unpack the conversation of the Big three in media. I
don't have any personal issue with anyone. I acknowledge what's
been brought to the market and what's extracted from the
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market as well. I think some people forget about what
people are taking from us and installing in us. I
think they don't really pay attention. Nonetheless, I'm comfortable with
where I land. That you see backpedaling right now coming
from academics on what he said about Joe Budden, because
at first he said, Yo, Adam is right, Joe's not
in the Big three platforms. I think that was disrespectful
(31:54):
if you ask me. But I don't know. Maybe there's
a weird takeover that Adam and Act is about to
try to do. As a p I don't know what's happening,
but there's some weird energy and as it pertains the
Joe Budden's name and top platforms, right, it's some kind
of way. They don't let them creep into that conversation,
even though some would argue that the hip hop commentary
(32:14):
on that side does move culture, right, you got to
pay attention to the narratives that's being pushed out. Pay
attention to the narratives being pushed out. All of these
guys make a lot of money, and I believe when
they talk about money in the game, it separates it
and it separates you. And we got a level of
respect for business on this side. But there's some information
(32:35):
that needs to be placed next to how that money
is being made. The Big Three in media, I see
them turning into ponds and the Rooks right in front
of it, they turning into ponds. Drake could talk to
a nigga on a DM and they'll talk about it
for three hours. I ain't never seen nothing like it.
I ain't never seen nothing like it, And I didn't
(32:57):
have no problem with the top three. You know, your
list is your list. It depends on what you want
to listen to. The only thing I said was that
everybody on the top three eat sold puss it. Nah,
they're eat some pussy as for sale. You dig what
I'm saying, So I don't have the cat. I guess.
You know, to be in the top three of hip
(33:19):
hop media, you gotta eat push it it take like
me a sporn. You dig what I'm saying because you
gotta eat soul puss it, man. You know what I'm saying.
You gotta you dig. But you know what was interesting
for me is I seen about two or three weeks
ago Rod Wave had an incident and I watched DJ
(33:40):
Academics report on it, and he was wrong and that
was something that can affect his life. He called it
crashed out on camera, rod Wave shooting it up, and
you got stuff to live for and all of this,
those charges end up getting dropped. The video had three
hundred and fifty thousand views. He didn't take that down
because that's some money. I ain't taking that down. I
make it of that, even if it creates a narrative
(34:03):
that you some dude out here is crashing out and
shooting up parking lots. You know, from my site, from
where I stand, it looks like there's a value on
fishing in trouble waters. You know, I do believe Actor
is in a golden moment right now. He's being fed
in information. He's being positioned as someone that Drake is
(34:25):
breaking records through. If DJ Academics is really a DJ,
I think he would take that is disrespect knowing that
that's really a who Kid exclusive. That's not a DJ
academic exclusive. That is not a DJ academic exclusive. It's
a who Kid exclusive, and that's why you hear his
tag on it. I think it's unfortunate that maybe I'm
(34:47):
the one to point that out, but out of respect
for the DJ culture, out of respect for that real culture.
It's like, Yo, I believe act to be someone to
help service that record, but that's really a DJ who
kid And out of respect for the DJ community and culture,
I just think it's important that I help you understand
that Academics may have been hired or in position to
(35:11):
help service that record, but as it pertains to it
being Who's exclusive, it says that at the beginning of
the record, it clearly says who Kid, that's a who
Kid exclusive. You see fifty cent involved, that's a who
Kid exclusive. Even without fifty cent involvement, it literally has
its tag on the front of it. Now academics involvement
(35:32):
in the record comes at the end. He literally has
his voice placed on the record by one of the
biggest artists ever in the world. There's something nobody gonna
be able to take from him, right, And so that's
a place that Drake put him in. But as it
pertains to who record that is, I just want to
be clear out of respect for the DJ community, and
(35:53):
I thought DJ Academics was a DJ, so it's unfortunate
that he's not respecting the real DJ community. It's like, bro,
you know that's a who is say who Kid? When
you just like if it's say Clue, I don't give
a fuck what DJ played. If it's a DJ drummer
Gangster Grills, that's a Gangster Grills joint, I don't care
(36:15):
when you got it. You see what I'm saying. I'm
just putting you up on some game. But it's great
marketing and narrative and perspective that they pushing out on
the public. But you gotta know what to pick up
and what to put down. It's a difference as it
pertains to the Big three D media. We saw Adam
kind of go at Joe Budden, call him a perkhead
and put his YouTube numbers up against Joe Budden's YouTube
(36:39):
numbers and said, Joe Budden is running a chop shop.
I think that's an interesting metaphor for Adam to you
seeing that he's someone that literally is running people in
and out of that building, in and off of that show.
Dudes is threatening to sue niggas is getting right. So
it's a lot going on to be calling the Joe
Budon podcast chop shop. They've been kind of in the
(37:02):
same position for the last couple of years, So I
think even your position to start going at it with him,
what is it grounded then if it's positioned in that way,
because I think it's dishonest, especially for somebody that has
had to flush the whole crew the same way Joe did.
And I think reasonably if you put him side by side,
(37:22):
you're like, yo, we both flushed the crew. It both
kind of got messy. They both have this messy element
to the platforms. I think Adam twenty two seems a
little more dangerous because he has gang bangers around, and
I believe some politics that happened in a way where
whoever's in position to protect the place has to fall
(37:42):
back and let let somebody handle what they need to handle.
These dudes making money. But as it pertains the big
three year o, everybody got they list. These guys are powerful,
these guys got big platforms. We salute everybody in the game.
Ain't no hating coming from us, right, We're gonna be okay.
We're here for the long haul. We can handle this
(38:04):
thing from here on that, you know, from whatever y'all
left over, We'll take it warming up and put it
out there for the people. Dig what I'm saying. We
don't need no help. NBA Young Boy has now been
arrested for what fees are calling running a prescription drug ring. Now,
at the time of this video, all we know is
if he has sixty three charges and there's a lot
(38:29):
of crimes of legs that he's committed. Let's listen to
what the news has presented in Utah as to why
the rapper Cantrell, better known as NBA Young Boy, has
been arrested. There's dozens of charges.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
As we have reported, Mark that he was taken into
custody in Cash County accused of organizing fraudulent drug prescriptions
at Utah Pharmacies legally noticed Kent Trell Golden has been
on house arrest in Utah since twenty twenty one. R. L.
Harris a live tonight after speaking with one of those
targeted businesses, Ril.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Yeah, Well, one pharmacist I spoke with, said they thankfully
didn't fulfill that order as they noticed some red flags,
but unfortunately others weren't so lucky. Now tonight, the young celebrity,
who already had a criminal history, now faces more than
sixty related charges too this alleged scheme. Pharmacy owner Eric
Stewart says hearing news have an arrest and the frauding
(39:28):
investigation involving his business was a relief.
Speaker 7 (39:30):
You know.
Speaker 11 (39:30):
I'm just happy that they were able to connect the dots.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Last September, Stuart says his team at Reads Pharmacy and
Hiram got a call from someone claiming to be a
doctor needing to fill a prescription, something he called the
first red flag.
Speaker 11 (39:44):
Usually don't get a doctor calling in a call serve themselves,
that'll be like a nurse or something. But then just
their medical terminology was off, the quantities, the way they
pronounced the things, everything was suspicious.
Speaker 8 (39:58):
Like Stuart's case arrest documents were multiple other pharmacies across Utah.
We're targeted too. According to investigators, Callers linked to Young
Boy would call in prescriptions using the name of a
real doctor and provo in some cases, but giving fake
patient information. Individuals would then pick up the order from pharmacies,
mainly promethicine and coding.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
These medications they are trying to get are regulated, and
so throwing a chink in the I guess process can
really disrupt potential opportunities to get the medication you actually need.
Speaker 8 (40:30):
Weaver County Sheriff's teams help take Golden into custody with
federal partners just yesterday.
Speaker 11 (40:35):
We believe this to be several more months of work
for US.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
Efforts local business owners like Stewart appreciate, but when.
Speaker 11 (40:42):
It's on a bigger scale like this, it's more concerning, right,
because they're pretty persistent, and I mean, it's just a
big disruption to us, and it's what just a headache
press up to do with.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
I was talking to my part another other day. You know,
I'm having home boards the people that I know in
the neighborhood going through things. You know, you know some
of them at war, you know, some of them nursing
theyself back to health. You know, I'm having people that's
out there in the field. And I was talking to
one of my player partners the other day and I
(41:15):
was telling them, like a lot of the people in
the street, they'll be waiting on the police. They the
only people that don't know that they waiting on the
police to pick them up. I had a homeboy that
was involved in a shooting and he had a warrant,
and he kind of knew he had a warrant, so
(41:36):
the police was bad as bed. For those of y'all
that's ever had a warrant and been to the hospital,
thank god, I've never been in that scenario. But what
they say is that you don't get access to the phone,
you really can't move, and the police is kind of
really by your door, by your bedside, right because they
gonna take you into custod as soon as you nurse
back to health. While he was in the beds, the
(42:02):
police was there for a minute and all of a
sudden they left out. Nothing's materialized from it. But what
I'm getting from it is that there's probably investigation going on,
because when you're in a scenario, you gotta remember these
people to sit back and investigate. Oh damn, we ain't
know nothing about this. This is our first peek at
over here. Damn this what he had. We been wondering
(42:24):
where they was at fall back. Don't nobody charge, nobody,
get away from them. And so when I saw NBA
young boy take that picture with them zagnacs, if you
paid attention to the timeline, they called him in the
court like a week or two after that, maybe a
month after that, and they requested, man, you gotta stop
taking these drugs. And then they presented some pushback like no,
(42:47):
why would I stop taking some drugs? If you've been
following me, I always tell you we search for information,
and there's a lot of information in questions, not in
answers and questions. That's information. And so when the question
is why you taking these pills? That tells me what
they don't think they legit. Something about them is putting
(43:08):
them in a position of where they can even question it.
Because if I'm operating in the confines of the law,
and I have went to a doctor that has an NPI,
that that is practicing under the law and positioning me
to be in a position to get it. How can
they say something. They wouldn't say anything because they couldn't
say anything. So the mere fact that they said something
(43:30):
should tell you what they probably had reason to believe
that either they wasn't prescribed to you. You got them fraudulently.
Something's up with the prescription. He told them no and
kept and kept taking them. I was interested in the picture.
What was the picture for? What did it prove? What
did it do? Was it a cry for help? Because
when you listen to what these people just said, it
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sounded like you dealing with a super problem that's on
this young man hand. Well, he's addicted. He's addicted in
a way where he's doing it hisself. I don't even
want to split this shit. And only those of you
that been down through there know about this here, you
don't even want to split. I'mna go, nigga. You will
see DMX in my city at the trap, God rest
(44:16):
his soul. But anybody in my town, no, I ain't lying.
You'll walk in the trap and see DMX because you
don't even want to center nigga. It's too much going on.
Half of the game is once they get it, take
something from it, even though they being paid, and then
hit you with it. It's just too much involved in it.
You only get that information being in the street. So
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niggas show up theyself when they addict it. Now for
them to say he making the phone called by hisself,
I said, damn, that's deep. So when you look into it,
they say the reason they got on them is because
two or three different things. I'll try to speak to
two of them, one being his accent. I'm gonna sit
that to the side for a second and deal with
(45:00):
just how they were picking up a prescription in his vehicle,
and so they pulled that vehicle over and had plenty
of prescriptions in there, and they had just got sloppy
with it. You see what I'm saying. When they pulled
this call in, it belonged to him. Now, oh now
this is two and two now starting to make sense.
Now on the other side, for them to continue to
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be front facing saying that it was his accent that
drew attention, I'm not sure. I'm comfortable with how that feels,
because they can easily be somebody that is from New
Orleans that is a doctor. Now, to say that a
doctor usually doesn't call for that kind of thing, that's
one thing. But for them to blatantly be coming out
and saying, because of that accent, I know that that
(45:45):
isn't a doctor. I believe that's kind of that feel nasty.
That really feels nasty to me, and they continue to
say it. It's like, yo, because of that accent. We
heard them say ask, we heard him say acts instead
of ask. And so when we heard that, we knew, man,
that ain't no doctor. I'm gonna call the FBI about that.
(46:08):
I'm gonna refuse the prescription about that. And the fortunate
thing that these pharmacists have, they have the right to
say no at this particular pharmacy, we're not gonna do it,
and then they'll call the doctor. Now, when they called
the doctor and the doctor said that ain't no good,
that ain't us, that's what a problem was, and that
(46:28):
starts the investigation. And now for him to have all
that shit allegedly in the house, that ties all of
that to the scenario that they're painting I think he's
gonna have trouble wiggling out. Now, it's a big house.
You're on house arrest, and you're supposed to report the
people that come there, and so if it ain't but
one or two people, then we find in this kind
(46:50):
of shit, it ain't really nobody else to put it on.
And it's a gun in here, you got security, but
then it's another gun in here. You know what I'm saying.
It's like it's gonna be rough on him. He may
have to lay it down, he may be finna have
to lay it down. But it clearly seems to be
some abusing the drugs there. You know. I was talking
(47:13):
to my homeboys the other day about the journey of
getting off opios, and man, one thing you hear all
across the board is that journey is one of the
hardest journeys of people lives, and a lot of these
individuals that got on these through doctors and getting off
of them are one of the hardest things in their lives.
(47:34):
They spoke the depression on getting off of them. One
of my homeboys is like, man, I made fifteen grand,
I made nine grand or some shit, and I still
just in the house just feeling bad about myself. You
say you get over it, but there was a scenario
where he felt that. But the dude needs some help.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
You know what I'm saying. When you take a picture
like that on federal papers, out on a monitor on
house arrest, yeah, you probably need some help. You know
what I mean. You ain't ready for this kind of battle.
These federal people got you in because they got you
with a mental mayhem battle. They trying to whoop on you.
(48:19):
They trying to mentally beat you up right, So if
you ain't mentally strong dealing with the fizz, it's gonna
be a problem break you down. I keep telling y'all,
isolation is still like jail. I don't give a fuck
it because it's a house in the hills. Isolation is
still like jail. You don't get around it because you
got money. The human universal law is in effect. You
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supposed to feel things when you do things like this.
Universal law. Go up, come down, universal law, The sun
must rise. All things will work in the good favor
of those that love the Lord. You dig what I'm saying.
It's universal law. Now. I believe them to go and
pull the phone calls from these pharmacies. How far do
(49:04):
they go back? Can they prove that's him on the call?
Can they prove what a call came from? They have
his cell phone, They allegedly said he tried to break
it or had told them to break it when they asked,
can they get entry to it? Right? So there's a
scenario that young boys placed himself in. Now it's gonna
be hard to bag out of this one. Now are
they reaching saying he's running a drug ring? In my opinion, yes,
(49:28):
I think you're dealing with a young dude that's just
trying to feed his He trying to feed what he
got going on, feed his addiction. I'm in the house
twenty four hours a day. I'm trying to stay high. Hi,
stay high. I'm in the house all day. I'm staying
bullet all day long. So I think he's feeding his
addiction and they're placing it as a drug ring. Now,
(49:48):
a drug ring could be when you go to multiple places,
states or otherwise to try to get drugs, and that's
maybe where they got him at. He'll have good lawyers.
They gonna have to try to look at and see
what exactly what we're looking at. I particularly didn't like
the vernacular being a part of the conversation that someone
with a Southern dialect. I don't appreciate the fact that
(50:10):
we say that yo, hey, because he called and we
heard him use a certain vernacular, we knew that that
wasn't a doctor or that didn't come from a doctor's office.
I believe hip hop to be one of the most
powerful marketing vehicles that this world has ever experienced. And
I think the downplay hip hop and act like he
can't live on the cutting edge of the medical industry,
(50:33):
I would believe that to be a problem. And so
for white people, black people, and all people that may
hear the sound of my voice, I want to let
you know that it's at least one person that's pushing
back on just because he sounded like he from the
South and maybe be from New Orleans or maybe be
a part of hip hop culture, that he could have
been a doctor. Unfortunately he wasn't and he was lying.
(50:56):
Whoever that may have been knowing this participation, I don't
know who was on the phone, but I know if
they're saying that it wasn't a doctor and it's been
a lige that they've reached out to the doctor's office,
and it wasn't that doctor. I think it's safe to
say that it wasn't a doctor. But whoever it was,
I don't think just because the Southern dialect is presented
(51:21):
on that call, in my opinion, is enough. It's enough
to reject the business. That's a whole nother conversation. Look,
drug ring, whatever they got, the fez one it, whoever's
on it. They gotta deal with the cars that they
put on the table. My thing is this, respect all
walks of life, and they go for anybody. I see y'all.
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