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February 24, 2025 45 mins

Ever walked into a room and suddenly you’re in a relationship you didn’t know about? We kick things off with some playful roasting and welcome our newest partner-in-crime, Melissa, before diving into Paige DeSorbo’s breakup and the age-old debate, can you really stay friends with an ex? (Let’s just say, opinions get spicy.)

Then, we relive the times love totally hijacked our wardrobes because who hasn’t worn something ridiculous for a relationship? From celebrity style overhauls to post-Super Bowl fashion disasters, we embrace the good, the bad, and the what was I thinking? moments.

For a little inspiration, Swayze Bozeman from the Kansas City Chiefs joins us to talk faith, perseverance, and life’s unexpected plot twists. And of course, we wrap it all up with the usual parenting chaos, questionable routines, and a whole lot of laughs.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you, and Crystal makes fun of methe whole time and it's great
and it's real.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey guys, hey guys, what about this?
Hey guys, tisha's buildingherself up before we get started

(00:30):
.
I'm like, I'm like a boxer, youknow, and they're like hitting
themselves.
You know, like before, likethere it is, he like hits
himself and I'm like what'shappening?
That's not normal, but now Iwant to do it.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh, welcome, look alive you know, oh yeah, we're
really excited to record thisweek.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
We got a new audience member.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Here we got a new.
We got to think of the name,not Pod Mommy, like Pod Mommy,
how you say with the I.
Oh, Mommy member.
Yeah, that's what I was tryingto say out there and you're
jerking me, looking at yourphone, never paying attention.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I was working Well somebody has to Somebody yeah
exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
For those of you that don't know, tisha and I
actually work together.
Yeah, I know we sound like a weyou know lesbian friends, but
we're not together.
We always say that I have a newcrush.
She's in the room.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
And I'm out.
Melissa's here, yeah, and I'mweirdly jealous.
Yeah, I don't like Melissa.
No, I do, but I am a littlejealous.
I know you do like it, I don'twant your lesbian energy
affections.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
You like it, though, but I do, I know, you do, I know
, I do.
Do you get jealous when I havea new friend?
No, I just get like oh, here wego.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
You know, all right, let's talk about okay, but I do
don't stop giving the lesbianenergy to me.
You know, like you said, itgives me extra confidence.
You know, like I could doanything she made me think I
could do it.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, remember that.
Yeah, bodyguard, bodyguard,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's behind every man is like a woman that believes
in him.
It's like behind every girl islike her.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I believe that, though you are like the wind
beneath my wings.
Oh, it's getting weird, I feeldifferent, yeah, but anyways,
last week when you were talkingabout pet my kitty, it was so
weird listening to that when Iwas driving.
I thought it was the funniestthing, though I would never let
you do that.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
No, I don't want to do it.
No Kind of no.
You do no I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
But let's talk about trending topics.
I can't get enough of PaigeDeSorbo.
For those of you that don'tcare about her, I'm gonna stop
talking about it after this weeksoon, I hope so.
I'm going to teach a mad aboutit.
I hope so too.
We have, like, work things thatare very we're realtors.
No, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I called her last night to talk about like actual
work stuff, like important, timesensitive work, very important
and she's like well, can youbelieve Paige in the Super Bowl
and that hotel room was weird.
And I was like, wait a minute.
No, like these are realpeople's lives.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It was weird, though.
I shared it on the jerkingaround, yeah, instagram, like
first of all, taking a picturein a hotel room with the bed a
mess behind you.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
And there was like two twin beds.
So I'm like, why are theystaying in a room with two?
They were foals, weren't they?
Yeah, but why are you?
Why don't you get a king?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Supposedly it was her room that he was just spending
a lot of time in in my deep diveon Instagram, but anyway, paige
Estorbo from Summer House.
Summer House is coming out thisweek it starts and she
supposedly didn't cheat on Craigblah, blah, blah.
But I think she had anemotional feelings for someone
else and that's why they got out.
That's what we keep saying.
No girl leaves just because andhe went on, he went on.

(03:25):
He went on.
Watch what happens life, whichis a show on bravo, and said
really some great things, thoughhe said that quote was so sad.
My favorite person in theuniverse is now a lesson right
is that how you felt about yourhigh school?

Speaker 2 (03:35):
boyfriend.
That's very relatable it isrelatable I feel like all my
favorite people were lessons ohmy gosh.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
yeah, it's like the way he worded it.
Yeah, is that how you feelabout?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
No, I do feel like, yeah, yeah, I do feel like they
were all lessons, you know, yeah.
So I do think that's actually areally profound thing from
profound from Craig, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
No, he was actually really good.
Do you think that you can stayfriends with an ex?
This is the topic everybodywants to know.
No, really no.
So Paige said that years ago ona podcast.
She doesn't believe in beingfriends with an ex.
I I feel like you're friendswith one, but he wasn't a real
ex it was a secret closet oh mygod, no, no, that was not uh-uh.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
No, it was like oh, you know, no, so anyways, yeah,
but you didn't have arelationship, you just had it.
Exactly no one.
I don't think I don't knowanyone that has a close
relationship with an ex thatthey were in a relationship with
.
If you're married, like ifyou're single, maybe, but once
you get married, I don't thinkyou really stay friends.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I don't have like a lot of guy friends.
Do you think you still yeah,which I think is normal?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I don't think it's appropriate, when you're married
, to have guy friends?
Yeah, it's not appropriate atall.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
But I have, like I say I have one who Drew.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Oh yeah, he I feel like is a good friend, but he's
friends with Kyle too.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, but you know so many family friends cheat the
groups.
They're all best friends.
Yeah.
Then one night they're drinkingjust like the Secret Lives of
Mormon Wives.
Yeah, they all were hanging out.
Then the guy looks at the girl,then behind the scenes, yeah,
Well, you had that happen to youyounger.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, you're.
Oh shoot, this is wrong.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Sorry, and that's defamation.
And you didn't even sayallegedly.
Allegedly, yeah, no, but do youthink that you still love them
forever, like I would say?
I think I'd still love all myexes Like I wouldn't want them?

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I wouldn't want something bad to happen to them,
but like I mean kind feelings.
I don't think love Really.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
You wouldn't say I love you, wooshie, no.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Tisha's ex-boyfriend used to call her wooshie,
because that's cool.
It was t-she, we she, wooshie,woo, and it got shortened to
wooshie and that's the.
That's where, like, I feel likemy, I never knew this.
I'm so concerned, I feel likethat's where the baby talk
originated.
I feel like I even baby talkedin high school and it originated
say that again I do think highschool loves are real time out.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I need to hear about that.
Yeah, can you?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
say that whole thing.
T did you start with.
No, because I bonnie, ponnie,sonny, nonnie because, I must
attract men that baby talk,because I baby talk I don't know

(06:30):
I'm a baby talker like I needto go to like baby talkers
anonymous, you know, like Ithink it's so weird.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I don't baby talk whatsoever.
Do you, baby talk to your kids?
Mommy's girl, yeah, I talked.
Baby talk to your kids mommy'sgirl.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, I talked, baby, talk to your kids, you know but
in the bedroom, do you baby?
Talk.
No, we've already had this.
Stop it.
You're being naughty today.
She's in a feisty mood, I am.
I'm in a grouchy mood.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
So then I'm either really rude or really funny.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah no, but I do think what were we saying?
I know it was good.
What did you just say?
No, I said I think so highschool loves like oh, I think
it's real.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Everyone's always like they minimize it.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's so annoying like you'll meet the one later.
I think it's different later,but I do think that first love
it, like whether it's highschool or college, whenever you
have it the first?
No, it's the first love.
It's very deep.
It's almost like you you're sogross.
It's almost like you're so likeinnocent yes that I think you

(07:29):
love so like openly and likewithout holding back yeah or
games, yes and you're kind ofjust like your purest self.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yes, totally, I completely agree.
My first love was three yearsand it was like real.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Mine was five and it was so real, like a hundred
percent.
Remember five years one day,yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
What would we say?
I don't remember New bed, newyou or something I don't know,
but no, I remember like my firstboyfriend falling in love with
him.
It was only I was in eighthgrade and I remember how
consuming it was.
Like you don't even have thatfeeling when you're older, Right
, and have that feeling whenyou're older, Right, it's like
different, but like you don'thave all those games, you
haven't been hurt, Right.
That's like why, with my kids,I'm like I don't know if I want

(08:09):
you to have all theserelationships before the one,
Because Kyle, my husband, hedidn't have like serious
relationships.
Yeah, so like he loves, likethat, like more pure.

(08:29):
Well, sometimes I'm like goingto show him and I'm not really
showing him.
I'm showing the guy that leftme on the freeway.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
He's like what are you talking about?
Yeah, and I'm like I am notputting up with you, you know.
He's like I just put gas inyour car, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, totally, I feel like it is so pure.
I think parents always minimizeit Like you're fine.
Well, we've gotten a lot oflisteners from last week.
Thank you to those.
A lot of people have shared.
They've reached out to us.
Yeah, tisha's, not we turned acorner.
They do give us advice and it'skind of cool.
So we talked about last weekhow our, you know, daughters are
grouchy in eighth grade andit's going through, and Maddie's

(09:08):
.
You know Tisha doesn't want totalk about her kids because she
doesn't want them to be affected, but I'm more fine with it,
it's just what's going on in ourlife.
I'm just respecting theirprivacy.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
That's nice.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
More so on the social media.
A little grouchy right now too,like in the last couple of
weeks, but I think it's easy asparents to be like.
Nothing in your life is thatimportant.
But we also need to likeremember at that time it was so
important.
There was nothing about it,that was not so important.
You know, what I mean.
Like I think we forget that,like to them this is everything
right.
Like we're going to nationalsthis week for cheer and Maddie's
on my team and she's like sostressed about it and I'm like
it's not, you've done 50 traveltrips, but I have to remember to

(09:49):
us back then it was everythingRight.
So be nicer to your kids.
Yeah, all of you Totally.
But anyways, first loves Paige,paige, craig oh yeah, that's
what we're talking about.
Is Paige?
Yeah, I think she's moving onreally quick and like another
thing I'm bugged about and thenI'm going to move on With Craig.
She always says that she was ahomebody and now she's going out
with leather pants.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah Well, I know it's very different.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's very different.
It's very like KourtneyKardashian vibes, yeah, like the
guy has tattoos.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Now she's hard, because he's hard, yeah, and
that's probably deep, yeah, it'sweird, though the deep is weird
.
What are we talking?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
about what's deep, yeah, maybe.
Why do you start dressing hardjust because you're dating a guy
?
That Right, courtney totallystarted wearing chains.
I'm like you never wore achange.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I know I feel like when I met Ben, I dressed the
same.
Yeah, you know I feel like youdressed better when you met Kyle
.
Well, kyle has good style.
Yeah, he's a good dresser.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
No, but like you with your ex, with the bangs?
It wasn't, you were trying todress like Cholo.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, oh, no, oh no.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Like I don't.
I've seen people do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like you were, Is Cholo not right, I don't
know.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I don't want to like, just maybe not a clip.
Anything about the clip, I'mparanoid.
It has to be like, so like, notcontroversial.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, but you do change.
I guess when you're datingsomeone you change.
I was writing a book with my ex.
He was going to be a doctor.
I was like I'll be a doctor andI couldn't even pass like my
food handlers part.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I was like really good tacos and I still do, yeah,
and you say tortilla.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We have a lot of friends thatdate like or married to people
of, like differentauthenticities.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Is that the right?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
word.
Yeah, and they, you would thinklike our friends.
I would think they were Mexicanand they're not.
Oh Cause they kind of take on.
Yeah, and like my mom, thinksshe's Italian, but it's only by
injection.
Yeah, it's like you, it's likeyou take on that.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, oh, totally the culture.
Yeah, yeah, you do take on theculture.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
What would you be then?
I'm like what's Ben's?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
culture.
I have gotten cleaner, you know, yeah, you're way cleaner, way
more like type A yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
And now sticking up for celebrities?
Yes, because we got, you know,our trending video.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
She was mad because Paige's whole MO is like I don't
care, I do what I want, I don'tcare what people think.
But I said, when you have thewhole internet and the whole
world like critiquing andcalling you like a horrible
cheater, it's like normal to notwant to share that and stick up

(12:24):
for yourself.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Totally, now that I you've lived in the, yeah,
that's where she goes, she goesdo you like identify with her?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm like kind of you know it's kind of a lot of views
at this point.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
It's getting weird yeah, it's like the, it's a lot
of views.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, every time I see that come across my screen
like yelling at me.
I'm like no, I swear, I'm anice person.
Yeah, I agree, I agree so theagree.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
So the Superbowl is this weekend.
We actually watched it togetherShocking.
I'm going to be watching withMelissa next time.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, I know Right.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, we watched it together with our families.
There's actually a really nicenight.
Um, like it was calm and fun.
But Taylor Swift there's a lotof talk about.
I think it went away now thatthe Eagles won, but I remembered
what I was going to tell youEarlier in the day.
They were, and it's onInstagram.
It could have been AI orwhatever, I don't know, but they
were putting like wood up atAmazon headquarters in

(13:13):
Philadelphia and the caption wasproof that Eagles are going to
win the Super Bowl becausethey're already protecting, like
Amazon in Philly for when theywin.
And it was weird when they won,they like took over the streets
in Philly for when they win.
And it was weird when they won,they like took over the streets
in Philly, like in a bad way,looting, yes, because they won
supposedly on Instagram, butthere's like them all on the
freeway and it was like who?

(13:34):
Who vandalizes your own townwhen you win the Super Bowl?
Yeah, shouldn't you be likecelebrating?
Yeah, but I think maybe theygot too crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, things got like yeah in college.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, I'm like when breaking windows yeah remember
when you wore the corset I do.
Have we talked about?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
that on?
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Tisha went through a phase where she thought she was
sex in the city Carrie I thinkevery girl went through that
phase.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I never wore yeah.
Melissa did too.
I never wore my bra still doingit.
Look how great Melissa is socute.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
But the cutest person , tisha, went to the bar with
her bra outside of her shirt.
I know.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Remember that I know, and people were like your bra
is outside and I was like it'sthe style and it wasn't Like I
don't live in New York and I'mnot Carrie.
It was at Santisi Brothers.
Yeah, it was at Walgreens.
No, it was in this, like thisrestaurant bar.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I used to work at.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, not the vibe it's like not in Scottsdale,
like that's only be more normal.
No, yeah, it's in like Phoenix,it was like west side.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, like this little bar sports bar.
She's wearing her bra outsideof her shirt.
I had such problems.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I know, but no, and then I wore, um, I remember one
time on, remember the trenchcoat.
Well, yeah, I was just say Iremember on New Year's.
This is horrible.
My kids can never, ever mydaughter especially.
I hope she never does this.
I wore underwear with a furcoat, like to New Year's Eve,
weren't they like clear?

(15:00):
It was lace, yeah, but like youknow, the boy short, did you?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
have it like open.
It was the boy short, you werebeing Britney.
Britney did that I had.
I was whacked I think it's kindof cool.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I wore boy short underwear lace, white, pink and
a pink bra that matched Justthat, just underwear, just fully
underwear.
And then I wore a fur coat over, because.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
And then I wore a fur coat.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Over what color was the fur?
It was like white and gray, Ithink I got it at like
Burlington Coat Factory.
It was, like you know, a bigsplurge for me at that time.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I think it's actually kind of a cute outfit, yeah,
and I had boots.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I remember it to this day, did you?
No, but I remember we were on aparty bus.
I was dancing Like the time, soI wasn't.
Who was your boyfriend?
Was she I was?
Oh, really, no, I think it wasafter that, actually, but I
think we still went with them.
Oh, I don't remember, do?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
you think we talk about this a lot.
Tisha and I both had a wildstage.
Do you think now that I'mraising my kids, I'm like I
would prefer they don't havethat wild stage, but do you
think that that's important togo through that Like in order to
get?
Because, whoever I was justtalking to, they're dating like
a nice guy and they weren'tattracted to the nice guy?

(16:13):
It's on the phone with somebody.
Is it an adult or a kid?
I feel like it had to have beena kid maybe, because I feel
like no one we know is dating.
Yeah, but I was like you don'tlike the nice guy until you get
screwed over by the wrong guy.
Mm-hmm, you know, like my, butsome girls do.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
They marry the bad guy.
No, they like the nice guyright away.
Who Like Riley?
Riley, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Do you know?
It wasn't like yeah, you'reright, I don't know.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't knowSome, yeah.
I'm sure some of my cousin Rileymet her boyfriend freshman year
of high school.
He was a junior and they did itfor seven years.
They waited till they weremarried and they just recently
got married and they both wentaway to college.

(16:54):
I tell people all the time thereason they made it is because
they didn't consume each otherLike they both got to live their
own life and stay together.
They always trusted each other.
Yeah, they like got to go dohealthy, yeah, whereas like
sometimes in high school, whatI'm seeing now that I'm like
back around that age group, somepeople date and it's consuming.
They're not allowed to go outwith their friends, they're not
allowed to do their own thingand I don't think relationships

(17:15):
work with that.
But yeah, I don't know.
Or like Casey, yeah, no, butshe had others before.
Let's stop saying everyone'sname, would you?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Oh, my gosh, yeah, gosh, melissa, we can bleep the
names out.
Well, we're not going to editit, let's be real.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, Okay, but I don my cousin.
We went to Vegas this weekendand my cousin, who lives in
North Carolina, was there andhis daughter is now 21 and 22,
23, and we were talking aboutraising kids and he was being
really awesome with Kyle and Iand he's like it gets hard, but
they're going to be better thanyou think.
And him and his wife he was themore strict one and his wife,

(17:51):
my cousin, is more laid back andI feel like her and I raise our
kids very similar.
They got really good grades,they were really good, but we
would go to um, New Jersey, We'dgo to the shore house in the
summers which we still do andlike before their kids were 21,
they'd give them like thealcohol popsicle.
Yeah, you know, and I rememberKyle, my husband, he's by the

(18:12):
book and he's like they're not21 and they're having the
alcohol popsicle.
And I was like Kyle, they'renot our kids, but now that it's
been years, they were young.
They were like way younger.
Now that it's been years,they're not really that into
drinking.
So I'm like, did the alcoholpopsicle like help make it less
forbidden?
So are you going to let yourkids drink right now?
No, no, I'm just kidding, I'mall no gosh.

(18:33):
But did your parents ever letyou have a sip?
I feel like they did.
Yeah, mine did.
It wasn't like forbidden, yeah,but I still feel like but.
I didn't have the parties whereeverybody could come drink at
my house and go in the bedrooms,yeah, like you did.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
No, I didn't.
Yeah deep, no gosh, no, no,yeah, yeah, no, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I, I don't know.
Well, I think there's somethingto if you don't go wild, I
don't know.
I feel like, because I hadthose stages of like going away
for spring break, like we wentto Lake Havasu, that was a
horrible idea.
We went to Vegas we weretalking about it this weekend
because I almost got taken at ahotel.
I had to call Kyle and thesefive guys were chasing like on
me, hiding.
It was a whole thing and thisis the second time we've had an
incident in Vegas.
But I remember once I went toVegas for my 21st birthday and

(19:20):
we a bunch of girls, like onetime we went to Vegas.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
All the time it was very unsafe, very unsafe yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
And we were not in the right frame of mind Like we
would hang out with alldifferent people.
We went to Lake Havasu forspring break and we didn't have
a boat.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Neither did we, and we just got on a random boat,
random people's boats.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Like why would we go there without a boat?
It's so dumb Like they couldkill us.
Yeah, I know, and we were onboats all day.
I know Like it's horrible.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I know, and you were wearing your underwear.
I feel like times are different, exactly With a trench coat,
and they don't stick in water.
Just putting it out there PSA,psa, for all the kids.
They don't stick in water.
Wait, so you jumped in the thingand then whoop, yeah, megan and

(20:05):
I, what'd you do?
Did someone throw you yourbathing suit?
No, they were selling pastiesout there.
There's out there where theytie up the boats and everyone's
tied up.
Melissa's not.
She's probably done it.
Nodding, she's probably done it, see and then it was like oh,
pasties, and it was.
So you just sticked him on andtook off your top, so we just
did pasties.
And then it was like, oh, we'reswimming.
And then it was like, where'sthe pasties?
The pasties are floating in thewater, it's just like.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
But do you?
Yeah, so I don't know, becauseI feel like I got, I sewed my
oats, or what is it called.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, like sewed your wild oats.
Yeah, like Kyle and I don'tthink you need to do that.
I think it's based on.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I could watch a movie every Friday and Saturday night
at home with him and be happy.
Yeah, like I don't have anywill.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah For like the wildlife, yeah, almost sometimes
where I'm like kind of annoyed,like I wish I, but we do, we
like to get a party bus.
Yeah, I think you can be happywithout it.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
If, kennedy, if any of your kids were caught
drinking in high school, wouldyou lose it?
Yes, really yes, you wouldn't.
I don't know.
Like I was a good kid and weremember we drank Boone's Farm
once and we thought we weredrunk and I think we were all
faking it.
Oh yeah, because like I don'tthink you get, but we did, and
that's really bad.
I don't know, I guess we'll see.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, I feel like college more was where I started
Like to drink regularly.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, I didn't drink regularly in high school, but
that's what I mean.
Yeah, one night didn't likestart a whole thing and I only
drank because I was depressed,because I blew out my knee,
gained some weight, felt leftout, so then I started drinking
to fit in and then my confidencewent to crap.
Yeah, like I was a freshman incollege that didn't drink, that
went to parties and all the guyslike I felt like I got a lot of
attention from that because Iwas different, like why didn't I

(21:48):
want to drink?
They were very intrigued and Ihad a boyfriend.
So I think you have like a notneedy vibe.
Yeah, when you're like have aboyfriend, totally I didn't have
to drink and I swear all theguys.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, I feel like the guys were wanting me too in
high school because I had, or incollege because I had a
boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I was like now now yes, so we break up and I'm like
here it is, and then they'relike nobody, I'm a hello.
You know every line.
No, I know.
I thought when we broke up, I'mlike this idiot now accepting
applications and then there's noone.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Oh, okay, you know, that's what I thought would
happen to Paige?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, the sorbo, and it didn't.
She's locked up with the tattooguy.
I don't, I'm not into that guythough Something's weird.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's just like yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I mean different strokes for different folks, but
looks good.
Yeah, that's not new.
Okay, moving on the super bowlbeing rigged.
Do you think this is a realthing?
Have you heard all this talkthat?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
the, the refs, yeah, were paid.
I think stuff is rigged, rigged, but I don't really care, or no
, yeah, you know.
Yeah, you just care about theplanes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, if the planes stay in the air, that's all I
care about we were talking aboutit on the way here, because we
try to kind of outline whatwe're talking about, but I
wasn't very good at it today,but we did talk about it.
It was pretty cool how God wasglorified so much in the Super
Bowl.
I did like that and I do feellike lately I feel like before
even watching Maddie and herfriends like we have a really

(23:18):
close church to us called CCV CV, christ Church of the Valley
and everybody in our like littlepocket goes there, like a lot
in North Peoria go there, andit's like, it's weird, it's like
a cool thing, it's like it'scool to go?
Yeah, because I grew up going toyouth group and it wasn't cool.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Oh no, ken wants to stay there all night.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I'm like get home, yeah, 830 at night, hudson
doesn't want to go to townbecause she wants to go to
church, right, which is reallycool.
I feel like is God trending?
Yeah, I feel like it is.
Yeah, it's weird, it's likethings went so south that I feel
like we're trending the otherway, turning back, yeah, and
we're going back to like it'sgood to be good, totally.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
It is good to be good For real.
Yeah, it's weird.
I feel like I've always feltlike that.
But, yeah, had a trench coatand pink underwear on.
No, was it good to be good thenIn adult life?
I mean, you know, yeah, I'vealways been a Christian, like I
always try to tell my kids likeit's cool to be good.
But you know, now I feel likethey're seeing that Like all the

(24:06):
like it's popular to have aBible verse in your Instagram
bio.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's kind of weird, though, because people talk so
much about this generation thisgeneration, yeah, and I feel
like this generation's waybetter than we were.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, they talked about it at church.
On did you go this weekend?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
No, thank you for rubbing it in my face.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
We went.
I'm all some of us go to churchand some of us don't no, I was
in Vegas yeah, we haven't beenfor a few weeks and so we went
and it had all the junior highkids in the front and during the
worship they were just likegoing crazy.
And then when the pastor got up, he talked about the people say
like the kids are the future ofthe church, and he's like no,

(24:45):
you're not the future, you'rethe present.
Like we could learn from youhow to worship, we could learn
from you how to celebrate Godand all that stuff.
It was really cool.
But they interviewed um, afootball player from the Chiefs
on Saturday because it was Ithink it was ahead of the game,
trying to like tie it in, and itwas Swayze Bozeman.
Have you heard of him?
So I hadn't heard of him either.

(25:05):
And he talked about his journey.
He is like a very vocalChristian and uses his platform
to talk about Jesus and he theyinterviewed him at church and it
was really cool because hetalked about um.
After high school he had nooffers and he just walked on as

(25:27):
a practice, just got on thepractice team of the chiefs and
then, yes, and then he got umpromoted or whatever put in and
now he's playing in the superbowl.
But they talked about his storyand because he wasn't like the
star, you know, he didn't getdrafted, which was his dream.
So, anyways, they wereinterviewing him and they said,
like what, where have you I'mprobably gonna get it wrong

(25:49):
allegedly no, yeah, but likepeople who saw church, no, but
they talked about like, how hasyour faith?
Like, how has not getting whatyou wanted right out the gate
been like the best thing for you?
I love that.
It was so good.
And he talked about yes, and hesaid you know, my plan was to
get drafted, yeah, right out ofhigh school, and he's like, and

(26:09):
when that didn't happen, he waslike, or college maybe, and yeah
, and was like, when that didn'thappen, I was able to meet.
He went somewhere, to collegemaybe, and then he met all these
people and like, he's got tosee so many people come to Jesus
and he has all theseexperiences of like, faith,

(26:31):
faith, yeah, showing God, seeingGod and seeing God, and all
those experiences that he neverwould have had if he got drafted
.
And he's like that is way moreimportant to me than and like
God put him on that path and itwas just so good.
How, like not getting what youwant is actually the best thing.
It was so good, that is so good.
Anyways, it was just reallycool and how, through his story

(26:54):
and he talked about how he's hadlike so many injuries and all
this stuff and how God just usedhis whole story and then now
he's playing in the Super Bowl,now he's getting the attention,
and it was just really cool.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
I love that because sometimes I think some of my
best stories are when I didn'tget what I wanted Totally, and
it wasn't in my time, it was inhis.
But it's so hard.
You learn so much aboutyourself through your
adversities.
But it's so hard.
You learn so much aboutyourself through your
adversities and we were talkingabout this in the car actually,
like how, when you work throughthings as an adult even it's
it's natural I feel like as anadult, we have more control and
we talk about this all the time.
You and I are both kind ofcontrolling one more than others

(27:26):
, but, um, it's hard to likeremember that sometimes, when
things don't go your way, it'sactually.
We talked about this on thepodcast recently.
Yeah, I was listening to thedetour.
The detour takes you where youwant it and like sometimes we
forget and we forget with ourkids.
Like when we see our kidsstruggle, that detour is
actually going to be somethingthat could be a part of their
testimony later.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Like as a parent, if you saw your kid whose dream was
to get drafted and they did it,you'd be devastated, not like
this is a great opportunity toknow Jesus, but if we had that
attitude it'd be like solife-changing you know, yeah,
We've been talking in real lifebecause we talk a lot.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's weird, but we are going to nationals this week
.
I'm just telling you what'sgoing on in my life and I
speaking of learning from theyounger generations.
A coach that coaches with me.
So there's two varsity coachesand a JV coach and two freshmen
coaches, and everybody's aChristian, which is pretty cool
for us to get to work togetherand have the same values, and
we're at a public school.
Don't fire us for this, but theyounger one, Marky um, who

(28:27):
coaches with me, she's aassistant coach.
She's like 25, 26 and I'm 43.
So that's quite.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know, almost 20 year difference and I'm like
pretty strong in my faith.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I don't feel like I've been.
You've known me forever.
I don't waver very easily, butthis whole journey has been such
a lesson for me, like shepushes me on my faith so much.
And again, like you said, thefuture generation she's way
younger than me, has way lessexperiences, so-and-so but like
she's challenging my faith somuch.

(29:00):
It's crazy that I never thoughtlike a coaching position would
be so spiritual for me.
Right, but I've said I don'tknow if I've told this story on
here, but we've talked about itMarkie coaches fully with God,
is the center and like, in a way, in a public school that it's
like like we joked.
This week we had a showcase andall the teams got together and
prayed before and the wholewhole rest of the night Markie
and I were like we lovedcoaching at Liberty.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's been a good run.
Yeah, it's been a good run.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
This is our exit.
You know where we get fired andwe did it his way.
But Markie prays the whole timeLike I watch her coach and I
watch her team and she wasn'tgiven maybe the most talented
team from the get-go.
There's a lot of talent butit's not like who they were in
the beginning was who they wereat the end.
Right, and I'm trained to work,work, work, hustle, hustle.
Never give up like thetraditional way of doing things,

(29:46):
like kind of like our parents.
You know, in the factory, inthe farm, like you have to
battle for it.
You can't miss a day of work,you can't enjoy a vacation.
Like that's kind of Kyle andI's mentality Right, and Marky's
in this next generation, andshe's actually teaching us to
like be different, like youdon't have to go about it that
way, but anyways, through herfaith, she just praise and
praise and they win.

(30:07):
They win like everything.
Yeah, it's crazy, but it's notcoaching in the way that we've
been coached or that I believe achampion coaches it, but like
she does it because he's at thecenter.
So, as we're going into ournationals this week, I'm really
trying to like keep God in thecenter and it's really weird for
me because I feel like he's inthe center of everything for me.
But this area is so hard for meand I don't know if it's

(30:31):
because the way I was taught it,it wasn't so we had faith.
It wasn't so.
We had faith Like our, ourexperiences.
You know and I'm not going toget in trouble for saying
anything about high school cheerbut our coach was amazing and
she was the best, bestexperience of our life.
Yeah, and she.
There was a faith behind it,but it wasn't like you know
God's, it was like a faith.
There was an undertone of it.

(30:51):
Yes, you know it was very goodfor us in that way.
But, like, this is different.
It's crazy and I hope that youknow she's teaching me to pray
that they see him through this,that it's not about the wind,
but the wind be, and I've prayedthat before.
Like God, show them, you,through this in all these
different areas.
But it's so weird that I'mhaving the hardest time like,
trusting that he will.

(31:13):
And you were with me, we were ona cheer trip and I talked to
her the day of state.
And, and you were with me, wewere on a cheer trip and I
talked to her the day of stateand she said Crystal, today I
decided he will.
You heard her, yeah, and I waslike okay, marky.
Like it's sometimes like, wow,okay, yeah, she's like no, I've
decided he's not not, will he,he will?
Yeah.
Hours later he did yeah, like.
And it was David and Goliathwho they were going against.
Yeah, and she did it, but shenever questioned him.

(31:34):
Yeah, and I've done that in somany other areas of my life,
like I've told people you knowwhen you go to the grocery store
, that door is going to open.
We don't take it slow you might, because you don't listen to
Google Maps, but neither doesKyle.
But, like I, just you walkknowing that door is going to
open, right.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
But like why sometimes do?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
just trust that his will be done.
Yeah, and like and when itdoesn't work out, it is still
working out.
Yeah, because he showed.
And, mark, he said you got tolook at the past, and when I
look at the past he's alwaysshowed up and even in the pivots
or the detours, it was stillhis plan.
Yeah, but I think the world,especially with what we consume,
especially me with all myInstagram garbage oh, I think
sometimes it makes you questionhim.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
That's what that guy said too.
So he said I forget thequestion they asked him and he
said garbage in, garbage out.
He said I'm really likecognizant of what I put in my
body, what I consume, like, whatI watch, what I listen to,
these music.
It was really interesting.
Garbage in garbage.
Yeah that's good.
It was so good.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, I did that when I did 75 Hard.
The first book I read, changeyour Paradigm, change your Life
yeah, such a good book.
I read it twice.
I think I'm going to read it athird time, but it's very about
the mind and we've talked aboutthis, not the manifesting, but
like what you believe, what youpeople around you, how much it
affects you, right.
So I feel like I did a prettygood job of like cleaning that
up.

(32:57):
I stopped watching reality TVas much, yeah.
I stopped like being onInstagram as much, yeah, and I
was careful who I hadconversations with what I put in
, yeah.
And I felt so much better, yeah.
And now I'm back to the garbage.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well, summer house is a secret.
My 16-year-old was when he saidthat I'm uh-huh, because the
music nowadays is like, yeah,bad sZA, it's horrible all of it
, it's garbage.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Speaking of the halftime show, was it good?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I thought it was okay , I just I think I'm getting old
because I was like what's goingon?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
You know, yeah, when I was young I kissed a girl.
It was a cool song and my dad Iremember that, yeah, and we
would all sing it.
We didn't know what we weresinging.
Yeah, and you know, you do kissa lot of girls.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I mean a couple, but yeah, stop.
And I'm like now that song ispure, like it's not even bad, I
know, but that one song youliked, the how Many Licks.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
No, this is so dumb, stop it.
No, but I did listen to I don'tknow Too Short, if people
remember Too Short.
That was her song Me andFelicia.
Yeah, yes, you love thatgarbage.
It was like Tina, tina thecleaner, but you weren't like
picturing doing it when you weresinging, were you no, but we
were like Woo, she, woo, woo, no, but we like thought it was
cool to know all the words andnow when I I'm like that was

(34:11):
disgusting yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Like it's not okay.
Did you and your woo she wooboyfriend listen to that song?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, he listened to a lot of rap music, so I do feel
like that's remember how wesaid people become.
I was very like.
You know, I'm like a thug.
Yeah, I did.
I listen to like rap all thetime Really.
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
That's different.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, anyways, the detours.
There was something else wewere going to talk about with
that the faith.
So we're going to nationalsthis week.
I'm going to pray about it, I'mgoing to see what you know?

(34:50):
You don't want to talk aboutthis story, but can you tell
that you made your son dosomething and now he's liking it
, please?

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Oh yeah, that happens all the time.
Yeah, tell the story please.
Oh yeah, he didn't want to dotrack.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Um, why did you want him to Cause?
I think it's relatable.
He was home doing what?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Well, so he goes hard in football season and he's
doing great and he like loves it.
And then when football season'sover, there's a lot of like and
he'll work out, go to the gymwith Ben, but that's like for
one hour In football seasonespecially at our school.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
They're state champions, so they're 7-7.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
They're there seven to seven every single day.
They're that disciplined, getshome at eight o'clock yeah it's.
And so I noticed like evenduring that period his grades
were good.
He had no missing assignments.
So then football ends and thenhe's coming home and then he's
like watching his phone and he'splaying video games, and then
he's grouchy.
And so we were like, okay,you're gonna do track, because a
lot of the football players dotrack, especially for his
position to get faster isbeneficial.
And we were like, why are wegonna pay for a trainer?

(35:53):
Because he was like well, can Iget a trainer?
I'm like, well, the track isfree.
Yeah, let's do the free sport.
Yeah, and not mom and dadpaying a million dollar trainer.
Why do you think he didn't wantto?
I think because he didn't knowwhat to expect.
I think that's natural.
You're scared and nervous and Imean I think a lot of people

(36:14):
don't want to do.
I don't want to go to the gym.
You know when you're just kindof like I don't want to do that
you know, and I don't think heknew what to expect.
He didn't really know anybodyspecifically that he was close
with doing it.
So he was kind of just like sowe made him go to the meeting
and he's like, yeah, I justcan't see myself, um, you know,
running track.
I'm like, oh well, I can seeyou very clearly.
I'm all here.

(36:34):
Here's some glass cleaner.
Clean those glasses You'regoing, you know like that's what
he said.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, yeah, I can't see myself.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
I'm like oh, I see it clear as day, you know.
I'm like like my eyes are wideopen, I see it and it's glorious
.
So, yeah, we made him do it.
He wasn't happy.
So the first day, what did hethink?
Oh, the first day comes home andhe's like oh, and we make him
do a lot of things, we made himdo wrestling.
We're just like that, thoseparents.
And so he comes home the firstday and I pick him up and he's
like, and I'm like, oh, hey,honey, I was track, you know.

(37:04):
And he's like, you know, likegr was track, you know, and he's
like, you know, like grouch.
I'm like, oh, okay.
So he's like, I don't know, Ididn't like it.
And then Ben comes home.
Ben's asking him the same thingI didn't like it.
And then Ben's like oh, did youlike it better than?
But it was better thanwrestling, right, like, cause he
didn't like wrestling, we madehim do it.
And he's like oh, you know, but, and he didn't like it better

(37:29):
than wrestling, I think.
And then I just told him, Isaid, look, I said we love you,
we're not trying to ruin yourlife, we just think that this
would be really good and insteadof looking at it as track and
doing a sport you don't want todo.
Why don't you look at it asfootball training?
Because he loves training forfootball, right?
So I'm like, look at it as anopportunity to make you better

(37:49):
for football, and then I do feellike on the second day.
So the second day I picked himup and he's all chipper talking
to someone as I pick him up andhe's like, yeah, I want to race
today.
I'm like you know, and he wasall happy, yeah, so he's been in
a good mood ever since.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
It's don't make this a clip, but yeah, it's crazy
though, those experiences, likewe all are like that.
Yeah, like I don't want to dothings all the time.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, I'm glad I didn't listen to him, because he
was like in tears about makingus making him do it.
He was so mad, yeah and ourgirls.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Even they had cheer tryouts.
They have cheer tryouts rightnow.
It's really adding a lot to mymornings, though.
I have two kids that aresupposed to be at school at the
same time.
I'm like a chicken with my headcut off.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Well, and Ken's.
Like me, she's not a morningperson.
I'm going to be like Ben, makeher coffee Like she's got to do
her cities and her coffee Cities, cities, you know, oh, she woo,
yeah, but no, she is not amorning person.
Will you explain what?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
cities is We've talked cities.
No, to you, it's normal, it'snot normal to us.
No, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Sit with an I-E-S.
Melissa doesn't know.
We add an I-E-S to everythingin my house Because that's cool.
Yeah, dewey's is doing it, youknow?
Yeah, uh-huh.
Yeah, homies bag, I'm not intothat, I'm not into the finger,
um, anyways.
So she's getting a chuckle.

(39:12):
No cities.
What is cities?
Cities is.
My mornings consist of coffeesand cities.
I sit, I read my, I read mydevotional, I scroll Instagram,
I drink my coffee.
I do not like to be bothered.
I need my morning like routineof waking up.
So what does Ben do whileyou're doing cities?
He is making coffees.
He's waking kids up.

(39:33):
He's driving CJ to school, he'smaking breakfast.
I don't know what the hell he'sdoing, but I'm sitting.
No, Um, so I like to sit in thecause.
I'm just not a morning person.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
He wakes up and he's, he wakes up and he's ready to
conquer the day.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, that's just bad , yeah, so, anyways.
So Ken is like me, so wakingher up for this morning is like
so rough.
I dread it as I'm walking downthere.
It's like the, you know, I'mlike.
I'm like I'm marching to like Idon't know, like my Hunger
Games.
Oh, it's awful, she's like bleh.
I'm like, oh my God, and I'mlike real quick about it, I like

(40:08):
turn the sound machine off,turn the light on.
I try to get out of therewithout like her seeing me, and
then she's like what?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
And I'm oh, she's nasty.
But they both didn't want totry out for cheer.
They told us they were going todo basketball, which we all.
Okay, get your basketball, youknow.
So we're at the Super Bowl atmy house and they tell us cheer
tryouts.
In the morning they do all-starcheer, yeah.
So when there's cheer at theschool, why aren't we doing

(40:34):
cheer at the school?
It's fun.
Yeah, go to the games.
It's not a lot of pressure,what they're used to.
So they're both to play andthey have to miss like two
practices a week.
Yeah, the coaches are like okaywith that.
Yeah, so the night before westart dancing, with the idea
that we're going to make themtry out for cheer and they know

(41:03):
we're going to make them meansit's probably going to happen.
So we just going to go thefirst day.
And now, like Hudson's settingher alarm, all excited, oh, not
at our house, yeah, but makingthem do what they don't want to
do all of us, like our highschool coach taught us,
discipline is doing what youdon't want to do.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
When you don't want to do it, I'm going to tell Ben
that when he's doing the laundry, this is discipline fingies
might be a discipline for you,even though you don't want to do
it.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Just try it.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
I'm not doing it yeah , I'm not like in, I'm not even
gonna say high school, becausethat's wrong, but you know did
you do that in high school?
No, you did that with thetrench coat on 100 I, I did the
trench coat when I was like 21and that's okay.
Well, I didn't do that, but no,but like I, just I'm like I'm
married, I'm not getting fingies.

(41:47):
It's just like I don't know,but why?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
because you're married does the fun stop?
It should be the most fun, it'slike ouch.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
It's like get the real thing going.
I don't want the finger.
It's like what's going on?
You know, I just know that ifthat hurts, how's the other
thing going?
I know right.
No, I'm just like let's get tothe point.
I'm not like all for the.
You know, like let's get itgoing.
I got things to do, people tosee you know, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Crystal wants this experience you know it's like oh
.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
It's not like a four-course meal at your house,
it is.
It's like you know, you got thedessert, you got the.
She's like Kyle wants to trythe whipped cream.
I'm like what the?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
hell is going on over there.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I don't try that, but I mean never say never, yeah,
but like also to the women I'mlike at a fast food restaurant,
like let's go, you are stillfreaky Ben said you guys were
crazy, this Freaky.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
He said oh, and you call each other a bad girl,
Weird.
They're over our house andthey're saying you were a bad
girl.
And I'm like what the heck?
Bad mommy, Mommy, yeah, badmommy.
It's like be a bad girl, Don'tbe a bad mommy.
It's like an oxymoron, Like theword mommy makes me not want to
spank someone.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I can't believe this.
Poor Like the word mommy makesme not want to spank someone.
I can't believe this.
Poor Ben Like his clients.
I hope no one listens.
It's awful, how embarrassing.
No, like, yeah, like he's likeyou're being a bad zombie.
So I call him a zaddy and thenhe called me a zombie.
Not everyone knows what thatmeans either.
What the hell is a zombie?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
What's a zombie and a zaddy?
Go ahead, tell your what isthat?

Speaker 2 (43:25):
no, they don't 100.
I didn't know, kyle didn't know.
Yeah, no, everyone knows, it'slike a hot dad.
Why is it called a zaddy?
Because it's like a daddy,daddy, daddy.
That makes you go zam or damn.
Like it's like a hot dad?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't know either.
Yeah, daddy is like a hot dad.
Okay, so then you're a zombie,it's weird.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
It's so weird, but no .
So yeah, sometimes if I say oh,oh, I'm being bad, like if he's
irritated with me, he'll belike you're going to get a
spanking later, you're being bad, you know.
Does he give you a spankingKind?
Of sometimes I'm fine with aspanking.
As long as it's not a finger, Idon't mind a spanking.
I don't mind an old fashionedspanking, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
My mom always my mom is still talking about how she
missed the spanking.
My dad and I'm like what the?
Yeah, I don't mind the spanking.
Really, it's kind of like youknow, you're a bad dummy, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
My poor kids.
They're going to be like throwup if they ever hear this.
Yeah, because if we ever kissthey're always like gross.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
And you don't do that very often.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Sometimes we do, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah.
Well, the lesson is justbecause you're married, don't be
a bad zombie, yeah, or be a badzombie, like you know.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Do you have whips and chains?
No gosh, I'm not into that, I'mnot into that.
I'm not into that.
No, no, very wholesome, like,no, outside, like People or
objects, very like natural bodythings.
Oh God, it's getting, yeah,it's getting Too much.
Cut it, cut that.
Grossies, grossies, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Vividies Picturies yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
All right, guys.
I feel like this is a goodending.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I'm going to throw up here soon.
I know we got to cut some ofthat.
No, we're not cutting anything.
Anyways, oh my God, thanks forlistening.
We'll see you next week, be azaddy, yeah, or a zombie.
Welcome to Jerking Around apodcast that makes you feel
better about yourself, becausewe're a mess just like you.
And it's great, and it's real.
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