S3 E16: Covered in Glitter & Questionable Life Choices

What started as a cheer competition in Dallas turned into a full-blown fight-or-flight panic when chaos broke out at the convention center. One minute, we were just proud, cheer moms—next thing you know, we’re hiding in a bathroom stall, sprinting through downtown with our terrified kids, convinced we were running from an active shooter.

Spoiler: They later said it was just a bar fight, but it sure didn’t feel that way at the moment.

We’re getting raw and real about what it’s like to think, “This might be it,” and how that split-second fear still sticks with us—like constantly scoping exits, realizing we might not be as ready to protect our kids as we thought, and even rethinking our health, faith, and what actually matters.

This episode is a rollercoaster—from terror to trauma processing to some unexpected self-reflection (because God really does have a weird way of teaching lessons).

If you’ve ever had a moment that shook you to your core, or you want to hear how we’re piecing ourselves back together (with plenty of side-eye for those official reports), hit play and join the conversation.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you, and Crystal makes fun of methe whole time and it's great
and it's real.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome to Jerkin' Around.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, what a week we had guys.
Oh my gosh, tisha's lookinghomeless today and worried about
it.
I think it looks great.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I just couldn't bring myself to get ready she did her
Blake Lively hair today.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I like it with the side part.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, I washed it last night when we got home
finally for the first time afterlike a week, and then I fell
asleep with a wet it was.
It wasn't savable today, so Ijust had to kind of go with it,
go with it so yeah, we were outof town last week.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
We were at a cheer competition in Dallas, for it's
called NCA.
It's a big one with ourdaughters, so we're not as funny
today.
There's kind of a traumaticweekend, so we're we're just
trying to be raw, not in a dirtyway, and vulnerable I'm off.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
She's always raw, but I can't even go there Raw.
I'm picturing like meatslapping.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Ew.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Like you know, like raw meat no.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh my gosh.
No, we're just no.
So, anyways, we weren't goingto be funny, but that means
Tisha's just going to be dirty.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Raw dog in it.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Gross, gross, gross.
What does that even mean?
I don't know.
That means like Without.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, Okay, Anyway.
So we were at NCA.
We had a pretty good weekend tostart.
We got on the flight and Tishastarted crying before we even
took off, so that was a signthat the weekend wasn't starting
.
We literally are pulling out ofthe gate and I look at her and
she starts crying and she said Idon't want to die like this.
I go, we're on the ground.
We hadn't even taken off yet.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, yeah, I like to look out the window and Crystal
likes to sit at the window, andso we started backing up and I
couldn't look out the window andI had like a panic, yeah, like
a panic moment, and I justcouldn't get myself together, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
So she started crying and I go what are you doing?
I go.
We haven't even taken off yet.
I don't want to die like this.
I go either.
Do I like?
No one does, but we're on theground.
Yeah, so then mid fight.
She cried too.
No, Okay, so mid flight.
Oh, my God, I said there's afighter jet that just went by us
.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
So, if anyone has been watching the news, there
was a plane that had a bombthreat, like a couple weeks ago,
and it had to have two fighterjets escort it.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
But what were the fighter jets going to do, right?
No, I'm being serious when Isaw it on the news, like, okay,
there's a bomb threat, so theplane blows up.
Are the fighter jets going tosave it?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I don't know why they have them there Right, though
Like it doesn't make sense.
I think you know what Ihonestly think they have it
there Is if it tries to fly intoa building and do something to
somebody else.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Oh, they're shooting it down.
Yes, oh God, that's exactly why.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Awful, yeah, so I see this story and then a're up in
the air.
I finally calm down after thetakeoff and Crystal goes.
She looks out the window, whichshe shouldn't even be sitting
by the window.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I can't sit in the middle.
My boobs are too big and it'slike, oh, the titty lady, she
can't close her arms.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
So we're sitting there and she looks out the
window and sure as shit.
She looks at me and she goes oh, there's a fighter jet below us
.
So I go.
Are you serious?
No, are you?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
serious?
No, I go, are you serious?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
because I thought she started crying instantly and
she goes yeah, I'm serious and Igo what?
And I just started cryingbecause I thought there was a
bomb threat and they hadn't toldus and there was fighter jets
accompanying us and I I was likeI freaked out, I couldn't even
believe it, it was so muchcrying.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
And then you cried about something else when we got
into town.
No, yeah, you did At theconcert.
Oh, we went to the concert.
We went to the best concert,elevation worship.
Yeah, we took our kids.
It was unbelievable, it wassuper cool.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
We found out they were performing.
We've been wanting to take thekids.
We found out they wereperforming the day before we
were supposed to go there forthe cheer, so we came in a day
early to go to the concert andtook the girls and it was really
cool.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
It was amazing.
His voice was insane seeing somany people worship and like so
openly, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I forgot all this stuff happened.
I like I need counseling aftercounseling after this weekend.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I can't even remember everything.
Tisha, like sometimes sheremember.
You guys have heard how shewears her bra outside of her
clothes, wears a corset, Likeshe tries to like go edgy Like
Melissa, you're cute.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Like she's doing it right.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, so sometimes she's like everyone's not seeing
it, but I am yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Cause I am Carrie Bradshaw and I'm going to see
this style and like, sometimesyou nail it, like, so it's not
like, I nail it more.
I agree it's not like, it'slike it's never working and you
keep trying.
No, but sometimes it's a missand this was a miss.
So we get to the concert andwe're like, oh, we want to grab
merchandise first, before, um,before we go in to the concert,
because the girls had likeT-shirts on.
They wanted to buy sweatshirtsbecause it was cold.
So we get there, we go right inline.
Well, the line's moving quicklyand I can't decide between a

(05:11):
few options, and so I can'tdecide between a few options.
We get to the front andeverything is like very neutral,
like the style, like veryneutral.
Well then there's this onesweatshirt that is like very
bright and almost like there'shomemade patches.
Homemade patches Like I'm goingto have Tyler have to show it in

(05:33):
the clip I'm going to send itto him, and it says praise the
Lord in patches.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Every letter is a different patch.
Yes, bright colors, we'retalking blue, and then there's
elevation merchant patches downthe sleeves.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
So I see it and it was kind of like um show,
melissa, it's so much but it waskind of like I was like oh,
that's really cute, melissacould pull it off, give it to
Melissa yeah, you can pull itoff, so it's so bright and
colorful in person.
So I see it hanging.
We all were like I was like gofor it, thank you.
So I see it on the mannequinand I'm like that's so, or on

(06:06):
the like thing and I'm likethat's so cute.
So I just picked this shirt.
It's like $70.
So we get it, we go to ourseats and I put it on and I look
down and it just it's notlooking right.
It's like I look weird, I looklike it doesn't and Everyone's
like.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
It doesn't go with your like vibe.
It was weird.
You're more like yeah, like I'mnot that edgy, you're not edgy.
So in the middle of the concertwe see another guy.
I see another guy wearing itand he has the edge.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
So everybody has the sweatshirts on or shirts, but no
one has the one that I pickedon Because it's the weird one.
So then we're sitting becauseit's all a concert, but then
there's like a sermon in themiddle and he's like a preacher.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yes, like Ashley from our church, ashley Woldridge at
CCV, he's like a modernpreacher, like not as this was
like stand up, sit down.
He was yelling at us the Lord.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know, like more, like so we're in, like the front
too.
Yeah, Like close, Way too close, so he can like see us.
I feel like.
So Crystal, all of a suddenleans over and goes hey, that
guy has your sweatshirt on.
I look over and there's the oneguy in the place that looks
like he might blow the place upLike it was like a Unabomber.
And I was like and why is?
Am I in the same situation?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I think you almost cried again.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, I did so, then I kept looking.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I go see Tish.
So then I became obsessed withlooking, no, obsessed, obsessed
with looking at the guy, justmaking eye contact with the guy.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I couldn't stop but then we caught eyes and then he
was staring at me and it was soweird.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I like it was just the to laugh.
So me, all of us are we werelaughing so hard.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh, it was so embarrassing Because they were
like trying to get saved.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And he's like the Lord, don't follow your heart.
And I was like.
You followed your heart to buythis sweatshirt and now you've
got a thing going with the guy.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's funnier when it happened.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Like.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I wish we could yeah the story sucks.
I know Like laughing so hardand everyone was getting so mad
around us because it was like aserious moment, but the concert
was amazing.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
It was unbelievable.
It was so cool to see so manypeople singing those songs.
The performance was amazing.
It was really the high of theweekend.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I feel like when you're in like a room with so
many people worshiping God, theHoly Spirit.
You can feel like his presenceand you just could feel like God
and it was like it overcame you, you know when you like want.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Like I was texting my family, I was like people need
to experience this, like it wasan experience and like part of
the cool part was when we weresinging.
You know, I am not a big likeraise my hand or like a double
raise yeah, like some people candouble, I'm not like a double.
The most I'll do is like anelbow raise, like I'll do the
elbow race with my eyes closed.

(08:44):
I do close my eyes a lot and Idance a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I like to close my eyes.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
But I'm not that.
And what was so cool to me isour kids are very involved in
our church and they are likefull arm, sometimes a double arm
, like worshiping.
So at certain points I lookover, I got my half hold.
Tisha had like a half hold,yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
And we look at all of our kids are like fully, yeah,
worshiping God, and they're likeso openly, like very powerful
when you see your kids, becausethat's all you want for your
kids to see them doing, that waslike it was just a very like
out of body.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, it was like what matters in life it was, you
know, yeah and then we leftthere and it all went to crap.
Yeah, literally no.
We had the best super driver,though, and he's now a jerky.
We shared it on our thing.
We listened to the podcastwhile we were driving.
He's like given us tips.
We are friends with him now.
Yeah, we're going to text him.
Yeah, we love him.
He liked the podcast.
He said that we go around toyou know we got a laughing well.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
So how it started is we were in the car bantering and
he goes you guys should have apodcast.
We were like we do have apodcast and he's like for real.
We're like yeah, so we put iton.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, we bantered.
Well, he took us to the airport, he took us home from the
airport, oh my gosh.
Then this guy thought we werestealing his uber, where it's
two girls and three little youngwell, 14 year old girls and
he's like you're taking my uber.
And I'm like, yeah, we're anUber seller and Kennedy's like
yeah, I'm like You're yelling atthe guy.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
It was weird, though, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
So he took us home.
Then we called him again.
Yeah, it was great, we bonded.
And then he did a light trickwhere he could change the
lighting on the building.
Yeah, it was exciting.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
He was the best, but no, but if he's listening, we
love you.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
And we're going to get you a house in Dallas.
We talked about real estate.
But yeah, last week was a suckyweek for me.
It wasn't.
I had a lot of things going on.
I had a lot of like businessstuff and then like cheer stuff.
It was just one of those weeks.
So when we went out of town, Iwas really excited for it, and
then things just kept turning.
We went to the best restaurantthough Carbone.

(10:44):
Has anyone ever been in Dallas?
Oh my gosh, they have one inlike Vegas, new York too the
aura, the atmosphere, theservice, and it's really not as
expensive for the service.
Yeah, it was the best serviceever Like to get a good service
like that, you usually have tospend $50 a plate it was like
this big Italian guy and he waslike what do you want?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
And I was like I want the plate.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh, it was so good it was unbelievable, unbelievable.
So we had that.
It was great, that was all good.
And then we had the cheer comp.
Yeah, we got to talk about that, I just don't want to get like
shot because we're talking aboutit.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I am a little worried , but there's so many safe-ish
Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Well telling the story.
So NCA is a huge cheercompetition in Dallas.
Everyone who does all-steercheer or any cheer knows about
NCA.
It's like the biggest nationalBesides Summit.
But you got to get a bid to goto Summit, so NCA any team can
go.
So it's actually bigger thanSummit because Summit is more
selected, that's at the end ofthe year.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
There was something like 1 teams there.
Each team has what 30 to 40people as well as their families
as their family.
So they're saying there wasover 50,000 people there for
this competition, for thiscompetition.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
So in a given day, the halls it's like the biggest
convention center I've ever beento and you can't even move in
the halls.
It's so, so, so full.
There's like four big halls aswell as the arena.
There's like six, yeah, six,and then the arena holds what
like 30,000?
Yeah, it's like a big hall offame, yeah, yeah.
So, um, our girls performed thefirst day and they did amazing.

(12:16):
We love we talk about that onhere a lot.
We are good friends with theowner of our daughter's cheer
gym.
He's also a client of ours andwe, I believe in everything he
does.
He makes my daughters, he'smade them tough.
He's hard on them.
They go sick.
They learn to never give up.
They're very confident becauseof the program.
He develops Like.
I couldn't be more in awe ofthe program director we have for

(12:37):
our cheer gym.
So they went on, they didamazing, they performed, they,
they in cheer it's called hitzero.
It's like you didn't have anymistakes.
So it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
So it's a three-day competition, so our girls were
scheduled to go the first dayand then not the second day,
because that's when other teamsfrom our gym were going, and
then everybody goes on the lastday because that's finals, right
?
So the first day went great.
Yeah, they did great.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
The second day we were supposed to watch the other
teams at our gym.
Yes, to build community.
Yes, so we watched the otherteam.
They did amazing.
We had a girl get injured.
They put someone in I loveseeing the adversity and they
overcame it Like it was like areally, really, really good vibe
.
Right, we went to go get anAussie Eye Bowl because that
sounded good.
Right, and our daughtersusually kind of roam with their

(13:22):
friends at those competitionsbecause it's like all cheer,
right, which isn't smart really.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
But anyways, they're always in groups, yeah.
So yeah, it does feel safe, butlike now in retrospect I'm like
it's actually so unsafe andcrazy, yeah.
But yeah, so we were in linefor an acai bowl.
So how the convention center isset up, it's kind of long
center set up.
It's kind of long, there's likea hotel, then there's a long
convention center with halls andthere's levels and then there's

(13:47):
an arena at the end.
So we were in the conventioncenter in the hall closest to
the arena and we were in linegetting an acai bowl and it's
crazy.
I didn't even remember thatthis happened until I was
telling talking to Ben lastnight when we got home.
But I was on the phone with myhusband and we're in line and
we're at the front yeah, I wasordering peanut butter all today
.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I've been waiting so long, I was so excited.
Extra honey, I was like in awater.
I didn't even get to the water.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
And so we're standing there and all of a sudden these
people start screaming andrunning at us and they and we're
like at first I thought a teamwas going on because some
there's a lot of famous teamsthere that come from all over
the youtube famous the countryand we were like thinking a team
was walking by and they werelike fangirling.
And then this lady said Shootershooter, get in the bathroom and

(14:31):
there was a bathroom right nextto us, so we just rushed into
the bathroom Like 40 of us inlike a four stall bathroom
squished.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
So we text the gym owner, who is our good friend
too, and we had just left him.
He went to go take a team toget ready and I said, hey, we're
in the bathroom, they're sayingthere's a shooter, we're hiding
, or we're in the bathroom.
They said there's a shooter andhe texts back hide.
That's all he said and he wasout there, yeah, like where we

(15:00):
were hearing it from.
So I like showed Tisha and Iwas like hide.
So then we're calling ourhusbands like pray for us.
We're praying out loud.
The girls are looking at us.
We have Ken, kennedy and Hudsonare too.
Yes, um, my other daughter hadgone back to the hotel with one
of my best friends, which wasgreat, but it was.
We had each of us and ourdaughters.
So we're in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Every time the door's opening, you're thinking it's a
shooter, like cause we're alljust sitting in there huddling,
which was horrible because wewere sitting ducks.
You were sitting ducks, you'relike waiting and you just kept
picturing someone opening thedoor and just like blasting you
and it was so weird to have thatfeeling, because knowing that
people have gone through thatit's the worst feeling in the

(15:36):
world, in the world.
So we're sitting there and itwas like 10 minutes, 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And we can hear music out there and I was like, is
that music or is that Like?
You hear sounds Like boom, boom, boom.
But it sounded like music.
Yeah, like the bass.
That was music.
So I'm like, okay, so then it'sgetting quiet.
There was like a girl, anattendant there that worked at
the place, so then she keptopening the door.
I'm like, why aren't theylocking the door Right, like
lock the door so?

(16:00):
And we wanted to get in thestall, but the people in the
stalls like wouldn't let us in.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Oh, it's like every man for its own.
Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
So then we wait, and then they're like okay, they
look, and then they're like go,go, go.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So we all are running Like.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
The security people were like okay, now you can go
Like move Like it's safe, so inour mind, out of harm's way.
That's how it felt.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
And I didn't want to look at the arena.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Get out of here.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
This area is no longer safe.
Safe.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
So I didn't want to look to the right because I was
worried I would see like bodies.
That's how real this was, yes,and I was like they don't want
us to look.
They're like that way, that waythat way.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
So there's an exit right next to the bathroom, that
convention center, leading intothe big arena, and so we go
through there.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
And I don't remember like now.
We were there the next day andI don't remember even how we got
, but we got behind stage andthere was like curtains and they
were saying hi, which is soweird because there's an exit to
the left and then the stage isto the right.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Instead of leading us to the left, where we could
just go right out, they led usto the right and led us behind
the stage to hide.
So that's weird.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, cause I remember thinking let's just get
out.
But then we thought it wasunsafe outside, yeah, so then
they're like hide, hide, sowe're all in hiding.
Then all of a sudden we hearpop, pop, pop, pop pop from like
a semi-automatic yeah, we.
I don't remember much afterthat.
I just remember everyone went,ah, and like ran and like like

(17:24):
you're tackling people, so yougrab your daughter and you're
just running.
So we ran out the building,right, we ran, we just kept
going and I have a really,really bad knee.
I'm not allowed to run.
For the last 10 years we ran atleast a mile, at least a mile.
We ran over a freeway.
We just kept running Becauseyour adrenaline is like get out
of here, like, and at any minuteyou think you're going to get

(17:45):
shot down.
Yeah, because that sound was sobehind it, like it was so right
there, and when we were runningyou were like it was like
getting closer.
So you're like am I runningtowards it?
Am I running away from it?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You, don't know, you're just running.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And like you're wondering what's happened to
people behind you, do you know?
Yeah, like there's that likeweird, like survival-ish.
Yeah, but our daughters wereamazing.
Yeah, like I'm not.
I I'm not in good shape, rightlike we.
I'm not in the best shape.
I work at it, like I work out,but maybe I'm not working out as
hard as I should be.
So that run like it wasliterally fight or flight and I

(18:19):
was having a really hard timewell, it wasn't like a jog, it
was like a sprint.
So, hudson, my daughter, she'sin great shape.
So she's like come on, mom, yougot it, stay with me, mom, stay
with me.
And I like it was horriblebecause I was like feeling so
bad and then I almost was goingto make a decision for her to go
with you, yeah.
But I was so scared to let goof her hand, yeah.

(18:40):
And I was like, okay, point,stay by Tisha.
Yeah, cause you were goingfaster with Ken.
And then I had my sweatshirtand I was like holding it and I
had my purse.
She was like give me yoursweatshirt, give me your purse,
come on, mom, come on.
They were like dragging us.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, it was horrible , but it was weird when we were
crouched behind in the bathroom.
And then when we were crouchedbehind the stage, I I still was
like telling myself okay, it'sfine, this is a precautionary,
we're just hiding here until weget to.
Okay, that it's safe, this is amisunderstanding.
Like you're telling yourselfall these things.
And then we were just likesitting there and it was still

(19:13):
like somewhat calm.
It was stressful and scary, butstill somewhat like yeah.
And then as soon as I heardthose sounds like I will never
in my entire life forget thatfeeling oh my God, we're going
to die.
Like I'm sure that people thatI've had near death experiences
or had cancer or had thingshappen where you think you might

(19:36):
die, it changes your life in aminute.
Like I was like oh my God.
And then, like having mydaughter there, I'm like I can't
protect her.
It was the worst feeling.
It was a helpless, sick feeling.
And then it was just like westarted running.
I, people were tripping.
It was like a zombie apocalypse.
It was a helpless, sick feelingand then it was just like we
started running.
People were tripping, it waslike a zombie apocalypse, it was
awful and like 50,000.

(19:57):
But what was weird is when wewere hiding behind the stage it
was silent, so like everyone hadalready left, so it was weird
Cause it was so eerie, it wasvery eerie Cause we were hiding,
and then to hear that sound, itwas weird and then we just ran,
like Crystal said, and then wedidn't know what happened
because, like, according to us,we survived like a mass shooting
, because that's what weexperienced.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
So for an hour we're by like some barbed wire fence
like way out of the city, likeyou can see downtown really
clear from where we were and weheard sirens for about an hour
nonstop, just sirens.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
So I'm like like that's ambulances, that's police
.
I mean it was pretty bad.
We like I thought hundreds ofpeople died.
Me too, like from what Iexperienced and heard, I was
like everyone's dead.
Like everyone's dead.
It was like awful, awful.
And then reports started comingin that there was a bar fight,
no shooting.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
There was a bar fight that knocked a pole over, that
made a loud sound that panickedeverybody so we're just on the
fence about all of it, right,but I don't want to get into
that part so much.
No, because we like our lives.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, but I don't want to get killed.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, and like there's so much and I'm not
saying it was a shooter- but I'msaying shots were fired.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I know the sound.
Yeah, could have been.
There was a lot of other peoplesaw.
We didn't because where we were, but a lot of other people at
our gym saw, um, like which wascool, like random, um, parents
that were carrying concealedweapons with permits pull out
and start helping and trying toprotect.
It was kind of cool in themoment.

(21:24):
Like people were saving, peoplewere picking up random kids and
running and running with randomkids.
Like there was a reunificationcenter set up because I mean
50,000 people to go peoplethere's people in ICU because
they were trampled, like it waslike a movie.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, many people were injured.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
People were running screaming like you didn't know
what happened.
A woman said she saw bloodypeople because they were
trampled.
Like it was crazy.
Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Like I'll never forget it.
We stopped with like randompeople.
We're praying in the street Oncewe got a mile away, we knew we
were far, so they were allcrying.
Everywhere you walked waspeople crying, hysterical, so we
prayed with them, we all prayed.
Then there was a random mom,hysterical, frantic, trying to
get to her daughter.
We hailed a car down, put herin the back of the car.
Cheerleaders shoved in cars,everybody's not with their

(22:10):
parents.
It was like something.
You just you don't realize howtwo things People are really for
themselves but then they'rereally not.
Yeah, like it's like when wewere running it was every man
for himself, right To save yourown life.
But then, once everything wascalm, everybody was helping
everyone.
Yeah, it was like we were allin this together.
Like what can we do to help?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, Well, when we were hiding, there was this girl
freaking out and her mom wasscared and like trying to calm
her.
But the mom was so freaked outthat I was like it's okay, honey
.
You're like you're talking torandom people Everybody, we
talked to everybody.
You're just like hugging people, like it was.
It was like a trauma bond.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
You know, yeah it was , it was crazy.
So we ended up finally gettingback over to Maddie, who was at
the, my other daughter who's atthe hotel, but like there was 50
cops, then there was a bombthreat at the hotel.
They had to like evacuate it,which is also like scary because
we were under the overpass ofthe hotel.
When I got word that there wasa bomb threat, I was worried

(23:03):
about my kid's coach.
I couldn't get a hold of himAfter he texted me hide.
Then I'm like are you okay?
Are you okay?
Are you okay?
And he didn't get back to me.
I started bawling and prayingfor him out loud.
We were praying the Lord'sPrayer out loud.
We were like, please, god,protect everybody.
Like it was so it was likenothing I'll ever forget.
And now that, whatever thereports are, what's hard is like
whatever everybody experienced,even if it wasn't what we

(23:25):
thought to minimize what youwent through, because for hours
we didn't know what reallyhappened, right and like you
can't come back, like it's weird.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
I told Ben last night .
It's like if I said, hey, Icheated on you, and then like
six hours later I was like Ijust kidding, I didn't cheat on
you.
It's like you can't forget howyou felt.
Yeah, like what I experiencedand what.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I thought was going on so many kids.
Oh, it's like we're adults, yeah, like kids you can see, like in
the videos, even our kids.
Yeah, well, now Maddie's like Iwasn't there because we keep
talking about it, and she'sgetting annoyed like I wasn't
there Because if you weren'thiding, worried about your life,
it's a different feeling thatyou have, it's?
He got the girls in a closetand he was making chair

(24:09):
barricade to protect him and hewent in after other kids and
like that's a lot on him too,like in that moment, knowing he
was going to give his life toprotect our kids.
Yeah, you know, and he'sresponsible for all these kids.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, it was just something, it was something.
But now reports are coming outsaying that there wasn't a
shooter, which is great news.
No one got shot, which is greatnews, no one got shot.
We're so happy.
But there are conflictingreports and what was cause?
Your mind starts playing trickson you.
We were like is that what weheard?
And luckily there was someother people from our gym in
line with us and like they theyhid with us and they heard it

(24:42):
too, and she's like no, I heardthat.
And cause I was like, did wemake that up?
Because you start secondguessing yourself.
And then when people reportsare coming in saying no, a poll
fell, I'm like, well, I heardlike a semi-automatic, like six
to ten shots and then everythingwas coming out on TikTok people
were saying the exact samething.
We heard random people we'venever heard with our exact same
account like that, people underthe stage, people near that area

(25:05):
, and it was nice to know likewe didn't make that up, like
that actually happened, becausehow do hundreds of people that
don't know each other have theexact same experience?
Yeah, so we don't know whathappened, but but learning from
it.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, I think it's important now like we're
learning, like everywhere we'rewe've gone in the last day and a
half.
I'm looking at exits.
It's weird, yeah, you don'tlike think about that, you know.
But like where we were, we werevery trapped.
There wasn't exits close by andnow, like we were even at a
restaurant that night and I waslooking for the exit and I was
like and luckily that wasn't ashorrific as other people's

(25:41):
experiences have been Now I'mlike I can't even imagine what
people have lived through Likeany kind of Like how do you go
on without being a basket case?
Yeah Well, I'm there.
Do you go on without being abasket case?
Yeah well, I'm there, you'rethere, but yeah, anyways.
So we've just been shooken up.
Yeah, I sometimes think thosethings are a blessing and a
curse.
Yeah, it makes you reallyquickly realize how stupid the
things you worry about is.
Yeah, just like with my dad,you know, it's like I might have

(26:03):
been upset about a, b and c andnow I'm like those things are
so stupid.
You know, and I don't know, Icouldn't wait to get home.
I've never been more excited toget home.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I wanted to leave that night.
I was like I couldn't get awayfast enough.
It was just really weird.
So the comp went on.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
The next day they didn't allow people back in the
hotel or the arena for aboutfive hours.
Yeah, for the bar fight, right,but like it's weird.
I just don't like when thingsdon't make sense.
It drives me crazy.
We saw a video of the fight.
It was nothing, so it's justconfusing to us.
I'm sure there's other peoplethat it's confusing to, but it
was quite an experience.

(26:35):
So going back there the nextday was very hard to like.
Trust your kid in this scenario.
There wasn't like metaldetectors and like sometimes
maybe you get annoyed at thatstuff, but now I'm more grateful
for it.
Oh, they did have signs up thatsaid don't bring your firearm
into the convention.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
I'm all yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
So that was good that they had that.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm glad they had so many signs up.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, they had signs.
They did have armed guards andarmed police officers, which was
nice.
That did make me feel more safe.
Yeah, and our girls did amazing.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, I'm sure a lot had their guns the next day but
they had the signs telling younot to yeah.
Well, yeah, the sign said don'tbring them.
But I was like, if it was afight, why wasn't there no
fighting signs?
You know, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Supposedly it was over nachos too.
That's the funniest thing.
No nach there is this nacholine that everyone waits for?
I love the nachos so bad so.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I don't know if the nachos started the fight the day
before we were walking.
You said Kyle got the nachoslast year.
They do look really good.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Maybe somebody took the wrong bite.
Yeah, exactly, you know thegood bite that everyone's mad
about.
Like, don't take the good bite.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Sometimes that happens when I'm at a table and
someone takes it.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, you're all drinking and you're in tight
quarters, so that would be alesson learned, like maybe you
know don't drink at those thingsand then maybe well and don't
drink at them, so you can be ofsound mind if an emergency
happens like if I would havebeen drunk there, I wouldn't
have been able to think andreact so quickly.
It was just an eye-openingexperience.
So then we had to fly home, sowe were like, oh my gosh, you

(28:15):
know, we wanted to get home sobad.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, the next day we went back and that was hard,
but then the girls won.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
so that was nice the girls won.
They did amazing, they overcameKids are relentless.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
People always say flew home and then our flight
was horrible.
So I was like, okay, god, justmake it quick.
Well, it was.
We thought we were done.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Well, we get to the airport and it's like sunny,
sunniest day in the world, likecouldn't be better weather birds
well, and I just made fun ofyou about your flight, like I
think it's yeah, I'm a littlescared, but not like her no
birds were chirping in the uber.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Not sure what happened in the two hours we
were at.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I noticed it before we got on the plane.
It was like totally gloomyReally.
Yeah, you were just doing your.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I was in a dark place .
I was like really shooken upfrom the event, like I'm still
not okay.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
No, we're not.
That's why you look like thistoday.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I know I might never recover.
No, you're very shooken up.
So we get to the airport andthen.
So we go to get on the planeand then all of a sudden it's
raining, because you know, whenyou're in the airport you don't
see so like now it's fully astorm.
Now I'm back to the story fromlast week.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, she was about to cry.
Oh, I think she did cry whenshe saw it raining.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, I was offering Crystal to drive us.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, she wanted to off the plane because the
phalange yeah, and then we takeoff and then the so she always
looks for a fire in the wing andall of a sudden outside looks
orange and I was like because itwas foggy and then the red
light was going.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
So it was like you know in fog how it makes the
light spread, so it was likebright orange out the window and
I go, is that?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
a fire like, and I was all no, yeah, and then you
thought it was a fire, yeah, afire, yeah.
And then the wings were like,and it was like Matt might be,
because the engine's down, it'snow sideways.
So then we were going sidewaysLike we'd go this side and we'd
go that side, and I keptpicturing the wing going down
and then like spinning it wasthe worst turbulence I've ever

(30:10):
the information and when wereach 13,000 feet, it dings for
you to use your electronics andlike that's a good sign.
A pilot taught me that, so he'slike when you hit the ding,
that means it's a good sign.
So there was no ding.
There was no ding for years.
There was not a ding for 20minutes.
I go Tricia who prayer with usand we'll have her on one day to
tell her story.
But we're saying the Lord'sprayer.

(30:31):
Her husband's a pilot.
Yeah, I'm like can?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
you ask him why there's no ding.
Yeah, you're all texting him.
Text him.
There's no ding, there's no.
Why isn't there a ding?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's been like 20 minutes.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, cause the plane couldn't get there Like it was.
No, we were this way.
Yes, like I've never had aplane sideways and then this
sideways it was awful, awful.
I was just praying so hard.
I was like this is it.
I'm like I survived a massshooting to go down on a plane.
It was like my two worst fears,you're crying again.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I know I kept sitting under this lady trying to make
her laugh, but I didn't laugh.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
I was saying the Lord's Prayer, you gotta show
the lady.
So then, in the middle of mypanic, she shows me this picture
and I thought it was like aforeign film.
See what, melissa?
What do you think that saysshe's far away.
Amy, amy Oak.
I'm I Oak, it's.
Am I Okay with the girl crying.
I thought it was like a foreignfilm, amy Oak.
So I'm like why is she showingme a foreign film with Amy Oak?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
What the hell does Amy Oak mean?
No, it's.
Am I Okay?
You're not, you're not okay, Iwas not okay.
I go, this has been you fordays and I'm like I'm a yoke.
Now you know what my brain'slike.
Yeah, I can't ever see things.
No, so I'm going.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I'm a yoke.
What the hell is?
I'm a yoke, and this lady'scrying.
It was awful.
Oh, it's just something.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
So we're home now.
My nerves were so shot afterthat trip though I like I got
home and worse, and like how doyou move forward from that?
Yeah, like we're so lucky thatthere wasn't a mass casualty
situation Like what we thoughthappened Right.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Thank God.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
People did get hurt, but I don't think it was what we
thought it was initially.
So how do you move on, like howyou know even people like
soldiers?
How do you move on?
I see how people have PTSD.
Because, even loud noises thewhole next day everybody was
just very, or when people wouldcheer.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
It sounded that sound of when they were freaking out
and running.
So it brings you back to thatmoment.
At every moment that somethingsimilar happens, you are
transported back to that moment.
Yeah, and it is like it joltsyour nervous system.
Yeah, To like a.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
That's where you feel like your nerves are out.
Yes To like a.
That's where you feel like yournerves are out.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yes, like you feel like your adrenaline, yeah, like
I feel like I'm constantly onedge, where any little thing you
know.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Well, it was so weird .
I ran because I don't run.
Maybe you know more, so youclearly work out, but I yeah,
this is all.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh, I got to tell.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
They said to me too.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
So is that rude to say days Like I was coughing up
things from my lungs that Ididn't know was there?
Yeah, Like you know, when yourun outside, how your chest?

Speaker 1 (33:10):
burns.
Yeah, I've had that for areally hard CrossFit workout.
Like the rest of the day it wasburning to breathe.
I've been coughing for threedays because I like exerted my
lungs so much that it wassomething so weird and I did
learn I need to be in bettershape.
You guys heard it here.
First because I didn't't likethat, I couldn't keep up with my
daughter.
Like you know how people sayand this sounds horrible, but
they're always like I'm in.
Like Stephanie Mallory, one ofmy good friends, who is Joe

(33:31):
Fitness, she always says I wantto be in good shape for my kids
and I'm like I love that, yeah,but I'm never like I'm like I
could hang with my, I can pickthem up, you know I can do
things, but like that moment waslike yeah, I couldn't, I
couldn't run ahead of her, Icouldn't put her over my
shoulder Right, like I wasreally out of breath.
Yeah, like it was scary and Iwas like okay, so I was telling

(33:51):
a few people about that afterand, um, some someone I know
said to me you know, god has aweird way of teaching us things
and I was like I was all tellinghim, you know, and then I'm
just like I gotta keep up.
And he's like, yeah, god has aweird way to tell those things,
and I was all took a turn, youknow.
I was like it's not bad, no,you're fine.

(34:12):
You know how you lie to yourself.
Like I can zip my jeans.
They might be tight, you know,and I might be 12 sizes bigger
than I was five years ago.
Well, like 10.
I keep acting like it's babyweight, but my kids are 15.
So it's like it's getting weird, but like in that moment I
almost died and I let myself goand I knew it.
You know, there was noquestioning it anymore.
Yeah, and I had egg whitestoday.
So, good job, yeah, I'm done.

(34:33):
I'm like going to work out likehard.
No, I got the weighted vest.
I've been scared to order it.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, I was, I was running and I feel like I work
out pretty hard but sometimes.
But I was running and I feellike I work out pretty hard
sometimes, but I was having ahard time keeping up with my
daughter as well.
So I do feel like I did feelvery mortal in that moment.
Like you know, you think you'regoing to have this like
freakish strength.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, I had the freakish strength for the first
half mile.
I couldn't keep up.
It was to a point where I wasgoing to have to tell Hudson to
go yeah, because I couldn't keepup.
It was to a point where I wasgoing to have to tell Hudson to
go yeah, because I couldn'tbreathe, and it was horrible.
But like, god has a way, sothen I carry these chips with me

(35:15):
.
We all lie to ourselves andtell ourselves that these things
aren't that bad.
Well, it's that bad.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, like I got to make a change, so I carry these.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I love those pop chips, popcorners, yeah,
popcorners are good, they good,they're so good.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
The kettle corn I don't like.
I like the white cheddar.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I like the white cheddar, but the airport only
had and I told myself that thisis a better option than doritos.
It is a better option, but itwas like 12 in the airport, so I
brought it to the hotel with me.
We're getting back on the plane.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I got the pop chips still a week later, she's got
the same unopened they weren'topen yet why do I want to throw
them out there for $12?
I'm like, oh my God, throwthese chips away or eat them.
Why haven't you eaten them fora week?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Because we were going out to eat.
All the time I had no appetitein the room.
So we take them to the airportsecurity.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
They go through the thing even I mean these chips
have been through it all.
They've been through a massshooting like at this point.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
We can't joke about that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Alleged Alleged pole falling.
Yeah, they went through a polefalling bar fight.
Yes, that's what they wentthrough.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yes, yes.
So Tisha then found thispopcorn at the airport.
That was really good, it's theGarrett's mix.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
It's the Chicago half caramel, half cheese.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
It's so good, so we each bought a $12 bag.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's when I hadn't learned, yet I was disgusting
yesterday.
I that's when I hadn't learnedyet.
I was disgusting yesterday.
I just was so shooken up.
I was eating everything.
I was like I don't care.
I was so gross, you know, I waslike it was just gross, it was
gross I feel the same.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I feel disgusting.
Yeah, I agree, it was likereactionary instead of like you
know Well, I don't drink, Idon't do drugs.
I don't do not on my phone,though, nothing I could do
yesterday, so I gamble on myphone to calm my mind down.
Yeah, so I could eat, I couldeat.

(36:52):
Yeah, and that's what I wasdoing.
Yeah, so I was joining her,because you know so.
Then we go to get to the thing,and we bought all these snacks
for the plane, because when I'mnervous on the plane, I eat.
I feel like this is anintervention right now, kind of
you know, when you see yourselfoutside of your body, you know
this is well that, yeah, yeah,that's happening.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
So we ate some of the carrots and I'm like let's
throw this away.
And then I'm like trying tothrow her weak old bag of chips
that she clearly is not going toeat away.
No, we had a full bag ofcarrots, too, that we had to
open.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
And my brownie.
Yeah, here's your sign.
No one needs a Garrett's at abrownie.
No, I know that's not like it'ssick, it's wrong, Well God.
So then Crystal's like no, I'mkeeping it, so she puts it in
this like bag to carry.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
I was all excited.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, the brownie was really good, yeah.
So we walk clear to the otherside of the airport, to our gate
, and then we go to the bathroom.
We get out of the bathroom andwe're at the gate and she goes
where's the bag of all thesnacks?
And I go did you leave in thebathroom?
She goes no, I think I left itat the restaurant which is
across the airport it was reallyfar.
So Tisha says so.
I said, well, God has a weirdway of showing us things Like

(37:55):
the same thing.
I'm going to say that forevernow.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
She's right though.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
That's the thing.
Yeah, we started laughing.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
So maybe the best thing to come out of this
experience honestly is yourhealth, because I'm having an
out-of-body experience hearinghow disgusting I sound out loud
Like you know, like no, notdisgusting, but like I'm making
bad choices.
Yeah, it's like if I was analcoholic Like.
So, years ago you used to eathealthy.
It was like the normal thing,like eat clean.
Right, we did paleo, then wedid macros.
You know, I'm sure everybodyknows about macros and macros is

(38:26):
great because you can.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
if it fits in your macros, you can fit it macros
brings awareness to macronutrients of carbs, protein and
fat and, like I do think, a lotof people don't know that
they're eating so much carbs orso much fat.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
It does bring awareness to eating more protein
and it helps like um heal yourgood food, bad protein and it
helps like um heal your goodfood, bad food, mentality Right.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
It's like moderation you can have this bad food in
moderation, but where it's bad,is it?
You become so obsessed withcounting everything, which is
weird.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Right, that was bad, but what it did for me, that was
bad.
There's some good for it, too,cause I, like my mom, wouldn't
let me eat a lot of things as akid, so when I eat them I don't
stop Because I'm worried I'llnever get one again.
Yeah, so I got to eat 12brownies Because my mom won't
let me have another one for amonth.
Yeah, so I've learned to eatlike that.
Like you just eat as much asyou can when it's in front of

(39:16):
you, yeah.
Or if I'm eating bad, I'meating bad today.
Yeah, like I'm doing bad.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
So I'm just going to throw it all away, yeah so
that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
It's all a problem, yeah, but so when I do macros, I
can have it.
It helps me realize how muchI'm having.
But where it's bad, is it?
Let me reintroduce these foodsthat I stopped eating for years,
like Brownies yeah.
Yeah, oh, I don't eat like pasta, and now I will.
Yeah, you know, like I wouldget a salad and have a bite of

(39:44):
pasta.
That's just normal, right?
Whereas now it's like I orderthe fried chicken sandwich,
which I would never eat.
A fried chicken sandwich Iwould eat like a bite, you know
what I mean.
Like it would be more healthy.
Yeah, you know, right.
So I feel like that's where I'mrealizing is like I've
reintroduced a lot of foods like, oh my gosh, my friend, one of
my best friends, and I the otherone we realized one day that
everyone that drinks real sodais skinny.

(40:06):
Have you ever noticed that Forreal though?
Like seriously, like mysister-in-law, stephanie, with a
lot of kids, is so skinny shealways drinks her real Dr Pepper
, right, like every day.
Yeah, like even Kyle, myhusband, like he's pretty, he

(40:26):
drinks around 44 soda everysingle day and has a soda for
night so Jen, and I thoughtlet's.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
This is so stupid, I already know where it's going.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
It's so stupid, we're drinking all the diet sodas.
We said let's start drinkingreal soda.
You know, because everyone thatdrinks real soda skinny, yeah.
So we're like that's it.
This is the new plan, and like,we just started drinking real
soda.
Yeah, and we're like.
Now we're like them.
Yeah, and it didn't work.
No, we gained like 10 pounds.
Yeah, because we ate, drank thereal soda and then ate

(40:55):
everything we're eating still.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I think the fake soda is horrible because of the the
aspartame and all that.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, like the like the cancer-causing chemicals.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
But the real soda's bad because that has like the
sugar, which is bad it's juststressful.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
you know, I do feel like years ago it used to be
like just don't eat as much orstop when you're full or make
better choices.
Yeah, that's kind of whatdieting was Everyone.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I feel like I know that's skinny just makes better
choices.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Or healthy.
We should probably get awayfrom that word, you know, oh,
skinny yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Skinny, but a healthy way of skinny.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Healthy yeah, healthy Everyone knows, that's healthy.
Is eating, making betterchoices.
See, my mom always like had uson a diet.
I love her.
She doesn't listen that oftenbut my mom was very into fitness
and very into at our house waslike a protein bar and rice and
chicken, so like, like just as akid I always wanted like

(41:45):
goldfish or like those cosmicbrownies.
So I would go to my friends'houses and they'd be like let's
play outside and I'd be like intheir pantry and it's weird.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Like how my kids are at your house.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
So many kids are like that at my house.
They're like Bear comes out ofCrystal's house his pockets are
full.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Bear comes out of Crystal's house.
His pockets are full.
I'm like, what are you doing?
He's like nothing.
He's got Gushers and like thoselike Rolos, I don't even know.
I'm like I've never even seenthese foods for 20 years my
pantry's killer.
Like Star Crunch.
I don't even know they makethese things.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, no O'Meal cream pies yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I do back ken's kyle's like hey she's, you gotta
tell kenny she can't stealsodas from us anymore.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
she was like stealing like fighting hudson for like
yeah, she was taking like 12sodas.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I might take one soda yeah, she was putting them in
her pockets too yeah, a lot ofkids do it at my house.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Viral sodas at our house maddie's guy friends who
are in high school.
We came home once my mom wasover there with them all we walk
in.
Four boys are in our pantryjust going to town.
It's like a fun, it's likeDisneyland.
Yeah, all my children's likeyour pantry.
But I do that because Kyle'smom always had that stuff and
they're all pretty like normalin the head.
Yeah, with food you knowthere's no good or bad, they

(42:54):
just eat.
They stop when they're full ifthey want to get healthy.
They're like yeah, I'll justmake better choices for a week
and I lose 20 pounds likethey're all, but they're all.
Fitness is a part of all theirlives.
Yeah, because Bonnie, mymother-in-law, always not
modeled it Like.
She wakes up early, works outevery day.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah, Bonnie does work out a lot.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
She's a very like, good, natural, great person.
So I loved it about Kyle thathis mom ate pasta Right, Because
my mom only ate lettuce so.
So I always thought it was coolwhen other moms ate real food
Right, Like I remember once Iwent to dinner and the girl's
mom was eating a cheeseburgerand I thought it was the coolest
thing, Right, your mom eatscheeseburgers.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, my mom eats lettuce.
But see, my mom didn't eat goodbut she was really skinny but
she wasn't like healthy.
She was eating like Taco Bellbut she'd just eat that for two

(43:50):
days and that's it.
Yeah, that wasn't a good thing.
Model Cause I feel like thatwas more modeled to me, where
I'm like, oh, you just eat crap,which I feel like Ben's family
is so healthy and they all eathealthy, but they eat all the
time but it's like they'reeating healthy foods for their
nourishment and health, not tobe skinny.
Where my mom was like I'm goingto eat what I want, but I'm not
going to eat for two days to beskinny.
Right, it wasn't to be health.
So I feel like making the focuson health, not on the outer you
know.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
But the problem for me is it's like an eating
problem, like if I'm eatinghealthy Like binge eating, not
just that but if I'm eatinghealthy, I'm eating so much
healthy food that I'm stilleating too many calories.
You know what I mean and youcan lie to yourself about health
, like an acai bowl which wewere getting.

(44:27):
Yes, they are healthy, right,but they're still a lot of
calories.
Yes, and a lot of sugar, youknow, like yeah, yeah, so like I
can tell myself that's healthybecause I'm an emotional eater,
but I still think an acai bowlis better than two twix bars.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah, in like what it's gonna do to your body right
, right, for sure you know, yeah, it's all, it's all just.
But yeah, if you eat those,them both you're gonna have the
same weight loss effects becausethe calories and the sugar
might be the same, right?
It's just so confusing so Idon't know yeah, I'm not a
health.
We should have Julia on.
I feel like Melissa might knowshe looks great.
Yeah, melissa's really doing it.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, so you heard it here.
First I'm not going to eat anymore brownies and chips on the
plane, and then I am going towork out hard on my lungs
because it was bad.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, no, I was talking when we were talking
about the parasites about it waslike some doc.
It was some doctor Gab Gabby,is that who you look, I don't
know and so she was saying howparasites are being linked.

(45:36):
And I was talking to my sistertoo is very natural, she does
all these detoxes and they weretalking about how parasites are
linked to like cancer and stuffand like how big it is and how,
like a lot of doctors andbecause your cancer is your
body's like attacking itself andtrying to protect from the
thing.
So if you have a parasite,you're, it's like your body's

(45:56):
response to parasites is forming.
And he was saying how my sisterwas telling me too how people
are getting rid of the parasitesand they're curing cancer, like
the cancer goes away, like thecancer is the symptom of the
problem, not the problem.
And so many cancer treatmentsare attacking the cancer.
They're not attacking theunderlying issue that's causing
the cancer.

(46:16):
So it was just like reallyinteresting.
I'm going to do a deep dive onthat so we can talk about it.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Did you say I have a cancer doctor?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
What.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Oh, I'm getting killed.
For sure, yeah, for sure, wegot the Dallas shooting.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, I'm not going to be alive, but I'm happy and I
would never do anything tomyself and I'm all.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
I'm scared sitting here now.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I know All right, this is it, okay, anyways,
anything else, I feel like loveyour, just love your loved ones.
I'm like I've cried more in thelast week than I've cried in 10
years, like it's what?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
No, I just think it's like a good reminder that life
is short and precious.
Yeah, and I feel like I keepgetting that reminder and maybe
God keeps trying to tell mesomething you know like, besides
my health, but like I justthink I'm a pretty passionate
person and I get really involvedin whatever I'm involved in and
sometimes I forget this is myown take.

(47:08):
I forget to make the people inmy life feel important and every
time this stuff happens I'mlike I've got to get out of
working, it's whatever, it'scoaching, it's this, it's
anything, and sometimes I forgetto just be with people that
matter to me Realize the focus.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
So that's something.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I want to learn.
Like you know, we scheduleeverything else in our calendar,
but we don't schedule time withthe people that matter to us as
much.
Right, like for me, my calendaris booked for the next three
months with things I have to beat, but not much of it is things
I really want to be at, or Ichoose to be at, or I'm making
priorities for the right things,priorities for the right things

(47:45):
, right.
So that's my takeaway is liketake control back, cause a lot
of the things I'm so worriedabout don't matter.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, I don't really have a takeaway.
Maybe I'm going to take.
I'm going to definitely starttaking something when I fly,
Cause I'm tired of feeling likethis.
I'm like I'm not going to be abetter person, but I'm going to
take medication.
No, I'm just kidding, Notreally, I'm just kidding.
I'm not kidding, but you know,no, mine was.
I was very in the moment.

(48:07):
I was like what I learned is wehave this false sense of
security that you don't realizecan be taken away at any moment
in a movie theater.
Like I was booking movietheater tickets for Ben and the
kids and I was picking the seatsand I thought, oh, this seat's
best, it's by the exit, and likeI never thought that before.

(48:28):
So it's just like it's reallychanged my way of thinking and I
just need to make sure I needto not let it make me more
paranoid.
yeah, because fear is alwaysfrom the devil yeah, and I'm a
very paranoid person and veryand at the end of the day I'm
like I'm yoked, I'm yoked, I'myoked, not okay, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Not yoked.
That's what I don't like.
For you, though, is you've gotto like.
Fear and faith can't go hand inhand, Right and they say that
all the time at church.
Right, Like, so you have to letyour faith, because we're okay.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
And like there was a song at the concert, it's
tomorrow I'm supposed to be gone, or next year, next 10 years,
20, 30, whatever yeah, but likein that song in Elevation
Worship, it's like you're notdone with me yet, and we used to
joke with my dad.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I told you at the concert daddy's not done with
you yet.
He's got more for you to do.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
So our takeaway is there's more for us to do.
This is my second chance.
What am I?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
going to do with it?
What are you going to do withit?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
that's it, good luck yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
It's not take Xanax, though.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
No, but I might Just being real Like, and if you need
to, it's okay.
I used to judge people, I'm notjudging anymore.
Maybe it's that.
Yeah, you should judge less.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, amy Oak, yeah, I'm like you got to be tougher
than that.
Judge less, amy Oak.
Yeah Like, yeah, it's just hard.
It is hard why is it not okay?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
No, but I do want my kids to know that isn't the
answer.
But if you do need to take itfor a minute, that's fine For a
flight.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I don't think there's anything wrong with it For a
flight?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
no, I don't know, but we're like trauma bonded now we
were joking about it.
We're like great.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
More.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Literally we couldn't unless you put a strap on on
and just, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
That's the only way we're getting Edit.
That's the only way we'regetting closer.
You're going to call tomorrowand be like Tyler.
Can you take out the strap outfor us?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah that's the only way we're getting closer.
There's no closer.
I know Like we survived.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
We've now survived everything together.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
I can't even believe it.
It we survived something.
She's like shut up mom.
I'm having a moment with her.
I'm trying to hug her.
She's like God, let's end thisAll right, it's over.
Bye.
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you, and Crystal makes fun of methe whole time and it's great
and it's real.
Take care.