S3 E20: Hello, God? Pick Up, It’s Urgent!

Want a story that’ll leave you speechless? Trisha went out for a normal night with friends and ended up fighting for her life, drugged, kidnapped, and beaten, with no way to escape. In her most desperate moment, she started reciting the Lord’s Prayer. 

The kidnappers’ eerie response? “Don’t bring the Lord into this.”

And then out of nowhere, they let her go.

But the nightmare wasn’t over. Dazed and injured, she was struck by a delivery truck, suffering devastating injuries. Doctors said she shouldn’t have survived. Instead, she found a new purpose. Within months, she went from party girl to leading Bible studies, discovering faith in the very thing that saved her.

Trisha’s story isn’t just about survival but transformation, faith, and finding meaning in the unthinkable. You don’t want to miss this one.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you, and Crystal makes fun of methe whole time and it's great
and it's real.
Okay, today there's a specialguest and we haven't had a

(00:27):
special guest in a long, longtime.
Yeah, so Trisha is one of ourgood friends.
She travels.
All our daughters do cheertogether at Top Gun.
We talk about cheer all thetime on here.
Tisha and I are a lot andTrisha is like our counterpart.
Yeah, she keeps us calm.
She's sweet as pie, literally.
You guys have heard her.
You've listened to us for awhile.

(00:49):
You heard us tell a story aboutwhen Tisha was cussing in the
car.
Yeah, and our friend said now,girls, miss Tisha's just a
little frustrated right now.
That's Trisha.
We were driving in Vegas.
Yeah, she's awesome.
So we've gotten to know her alot over the last couple years
and I want to first ask a fewquestions that will liven it up
a bit, and then we're going togo into a story.

(01:09):
She told me this story yearsago and it literally changed my
life, so I've been wanting tohave her on since a year ago.
It was a year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm excited to hear it, because you told me this
story, but I haven't heard itfrom you when I botch a story.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I botch it and I had all these questions and she
didn't know the answers and thenI was like huh, so I'm excited
to hear the real story.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, me too, I'm excited to share first question
for.
Trisha, though we werepracticing on the mic and this
just happened, um, and Melissaasked you know, we encourage,
we're pro men here, pro women,pro everything.
Yeah, I've said some stupidthings, I'm trying to get better
, but so we were joking withTricia and asked her her
favorite you know position,because not that we're, because

(01:51):
she's happily married Married,and we were into that.
And she said Mishies.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
She's a jerky.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
So she's a jerky.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
For a year a jerky.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
But you know that.
That's why this side of thecouch is Mishy's and that side
is like swinging from therafties.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
No, that's the dream couch.
Yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
And even though we just talk about it all on this
podcast If you haven't listenedbefore we're just moms that tell
it's like a reality podcast.
Yeah, we don't know anythingmore than the next guy.
We just tell you stories aboutour life and things.
We learn all the time.
Yeah, trisha also was on theplane ride with us.
She was also at NCA with us.
Yeah, she went through thatwith us.

(02:32):
Her husband's a pilot.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's the pilot that we were texting.
We're always texting him theding.
Where's the ding?
Yeah, we're like it's from theexhaust.
Yeah, we love him.
Mike's amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, okay.
So last year we were at Summit.
That's a cheer competition forour girls, it's like the end of
the year and Tricia and I justhappened to be laying by the
pool I have no, oh, you know why.
I was quitting real estate andI was talking to you about my
dad dying, which everybody'sheard about that a lot, and how

(03:04):
my priorities changed and howlike I want to just tell I want
to like talk about God more.
I think that's what I wassaying.
I like want to spend time justtalking to people more.
And then I think you said, yeah, everything I've been through,
you know that's important to me.
And I said what have you beenthrough?
Like?
Because isn't it funny how, onthe outside and Melissa would
probably agree Melissa had justmet Trisha, but you're so and

(03:24):
you're like the perfectChristian to me, like I love it.
You're like you know what?
When we, after you cussed thatday, tricia asked us what
devotionals are we reading?
Member.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh, where you were like do you like any books?
Cause we were like you weretalking about some like Colleen
Hoover where they were likebanging.
And then she's like Tricia,have you read any good books
lately?
And she's like, well, thisdevotional that Joyce Meyer or
something, and we were like whatthe hell?
She just reads the wrong kindof books.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah.
But you're so sweet, thesweetest we like admire you a
lot.
You're an excellent mom youlike are someone that we always
think like has it right, yes,wow it right?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
yeah, you know what?
You don't tell people thatenough in life, like when you
really think about them, likeyou don't tell me anything good
specifically, yeah, like, orlike you as in general.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, like your friends don't know what you
really think about them, like Iwould never, just randomly on a
Tuesday, be like.
You know what you're.
Light, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I should yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I'm gonna do that more, me too, and I'm gonna be
nicer to Tisha.
I heard last week's episodethat we're editing right now
because it was naughty.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
But I'm gonna be nicer to you and I've said it
before, just finally, and I meanit this time.
You know, everything happens itwas my low sometimes god has a
funny way of showing his thingsand, um, I remember when she
yeah, yeah, and I feel like youknow you do.
You are now realizing how yousometimes the joke goes too far,
yeah, and, and I'm going to bebetter.

(04:45):
I'm going to be better we allmake mistakes.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, Trisha, so she this is her first podcast.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yes, my first podcast and we're super excited.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I just want you to kind of tell me about you know,
you were talking to me and youwere in college and you grew up.
I would have thought you grewup as a Christian, because you
to me seem just like you know.
Leave it to beaver.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I love you Very.
Leave it to beaver Very.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Leave it to beaver Very pure, very innocent and
like wonderful, which is great,but I also like people's stories
, yeah, so I was like sointrigued by your life.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, there's not a single person on the planet.
That's perfect.
And I think we do judge peoplefrom the outside a lot of the
time.
Yeah, and yeah, I'm just tryingto keep it together most of the
time, but, um, yeah, I just, Ilove you, I know.
Yeah.
So there's a lot and I think Iam not like super like.

(05:39):
I don't always talk aboutmyself.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I don't really like to talk about myself, but when
Tisha loves it to talk aboutmyself, I don't really like to
talk about myself, but whenTisha loves it To talk about
myself, no, I don't.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Well, my husband loves.
Well, he wouldn't say he lovesto talk about himself, but like
he's really good, he just haslike the gift of dad.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's how Crystal is .
Yeah, I talk about myself.
I never talk about myself.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
And I love that.
But, like the opportunitypresented itself when we were at
the pool and I was like, yeah,sometimes your perspective
changes with different lifeexperiences and I've had a
near-death experience and whenthat happens, you're, you know,
you're just everythingcompletely changes and you're a
different person and with mynear-death experience, I was I

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was not a Christian at the timeDid you grow up, what was your
family life like?
So great.
Mom and dad Loved them dearly.
They provided everything underthe sun for us.
It really was.
It's not like leave it tobeaver, but my mom was cooking
dinner but she also was workinglike 12, 15-hour shifts, shifts

(06:47):
as a nurse and my dad wasworking full-time but coming
home and mowing the lawn youknow like so kind of like yeah,
really hard workers and um yeah,so

Speaker 1 (06:57):
that's awesome, and you guys were christian growing
up.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well, I would say that's probably what my parents
would associate with, becausethey, like, christened me as a
baby.
Yeah, but we didn't regularlygo to church.
We moved, um, I grew up inMaryland and then moved to
Connecticut when I was like inafter kindergarten, and then we
moved to North Carolina.
I so my dad's job moved usaround and we just we didn't

(07:25):
have a church family, which ishuge and everybody needs a
church family, no matter whereyou are.
Yeah, uh, and then you know I,we lived in North Carolina.
Um, start, well, I lived inNorth Carolina, starting when I
was in seventh grade, and thatwas a big move for me, moving

(07:46):
from Connecticut to NorthCarolina that's probably a big
pivotal time and, uh, finallyadjusted.
But it was really hard, lots ofups and downs.
It was like a roller coaster,but my parents are always right
there with me the whole time andthey were just really great.
And, um, I went to college inNorth Carolina as well and I

(08:09):
didn't know that I, like Ididn't choose my.
I went to two communitycolleges before I went to the
four-year college.
Yeah, we had a good time and,yeah, community college, yeah, I
mean that's where you were when.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well, no, I um in Asheboro I had.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Um, I went to community college.
Yeah, I mean, that's the way togo.
Is that where you were when?
Well, no, I in Asheboro I had.
I went to community college andthen I went to the beach,
wanted to move to the beach withmy friends.
Oh, how fun.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Just to give you like a little, very independent like
as soon as I graduated highschool.
You were out?

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, it was like out , but I had to get that little
bit under my belt.
I graduated when I was 17.
Really, yeah, so I just have alate birthday.
Yeah, that's the reason why Istarted early.
Do you house her?
Muscled my way through.
Yeah, oh no, it was a bigstruggle but anyway.
So moved to the beach with myfriends, with my best friends,

(09:00):
had the best time.
We worked as waitresses, I knowy'all have talked about being
servers.
Just like a normal yeah.
Went to school, paid our way tolive in a fantastic townhouse
and just partied a lot, yeah.
And then we let's see, Itransferred to a college in

(09:22):
Raleigh, north Carolina, toMeredith College, and I met my
best friend there and she was atransfer student as well and she
would talk about loving theLord and I was like what are you
talking about?
Like who is Jesus?
So just to give you a littlebackground.
And then graduated in 2002.

(09:42):
Doesn't seem like it was thatlong ago Graduated in 2002.
Doesn't seem like it was thatlong ago.
And had a place, you know,maybe like a year later had my
own apartment job and you know,you just get a wild hair and I
wanted to go out and have fun.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's how I was.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
We were in a great city, in Raleigh, and called a
friend, called an old friend,and like hey, you want to go
watch the football game at thesports bar, and she's like, yeah
, so got our friends together,went to the sports bar and it's
kind of like a city where youbump into people that you know.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Everywhere, kind of everywhere.
That's so fun, so it's likethat age group everyone's out.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, like uh, I was 22.
I was always a little bityounger than everyone else and
my friends were like 23 24, sothey really were into their
career.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, not married yeah, yeah, like that in between
age, yes, and I I think yeahanyway.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
So it's that time where you're and I think, yeah
anyway.
So it's that time where you'relike, okay, I'm not married,
single, and I just want to goout and have fun.
So I did, and then I hadprobably too much to drink, but
I still knew.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So you were all at the sports bar, all at the
sports bar, bunch of friends,just girls or girls and guys.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Girls and guys.
Okay yeah, and we were justhaving a good time.
We got on TV, you know, likethis, yeah, yeah, and you know
whoever was there, because ourteam won, but you were with a
group, so you feel safe, youknow, feeling safe, and I said,
oh, I'll get a ride home.
And then I didn't quite get aride home, and so that's where

(11:29):
it kind of all begins.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
So you were all hanging out and they left.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah.
Yeah, my close friend left andher friends, her co-workers,
said, oh, I'll give her a ridehome.
And I was like, oh yeah, theycan give me a ride home.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's fine.
I've done that 50 times.
Acquaintances yeah, I've donethat a bunch.
We've been out all night.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Sure, yeah.
Well, we ended up going toanother bar and I knew I needed
to go home, like it wasn't myfirst rodeo.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I needed to go home.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Oh, I and no, we went to that second bar and then it
was like and so you were withthis coworker that you don't
know super well.
Yeah, that was going to giveyou right home Two of them.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, not like your core group of friends.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
No, yeah, but I've done it and I'm, and I was so
naive and trustworthy and Istill kind of am like that, yeah
, but anyway, um, so we went andwe I don't even know like I
don't remember a whole lot fromthat second bar because you were
had so much to drink so youwere kind of yeah, it's kind of

(12:32):
foggy yeah very foggy and Iremember, um, when it was time
to go, time to leave, I couldn'tget back into the bar to try to
get my stuff to leave.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Oh really, yeah, at one point, yeah and you're like
I didn't have a ride home rightdid that co-worker leave the
lady that was supposed to giveyou a ride?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
uh, it was two men.
Um, yeah, they're gone, likeeverybody's gone.
The bar is shut down.
It's closed oh, so did you gooutside and then you tried to go
back in, to get try to go backin, oh, so, like it closed and
you were out and then you werelike my stuff's yeah, my stuff's
I gotta get in.
Oh shoot, yeah, I didn't know,but I, my stuff was not in there
, like I was really out of it,yeah.

(13:14):
And then, uh, I was on thehighway and woke up in a vehicle
with three strange men.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay, so the last thing you remember is trying to
get back in the bar Like.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I need to get my stuff, so I can get a ride home.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, and then that's the last memory you have, and
did you?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
have drinks at the bar Like they gave you drinks.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Oh, yeah, so somebody .
They witnessed me drinking atthe bar.
I don't necessarily rememberordering drinks or anything like
that.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Do you think?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
that they put something in your drink.
Well, the only, yeah, I do,because when I woke up on the
highway and it was likeapproximately, like there's a
landmark on this highway inNorth Carolina and I saw that I
was like headed the wrongdirection, like the opposite
direction, like going out of myhouse yeah, of my home, of my

(14:06):
apartment.
We are leaving town.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I woke up and I'm like so you woke up in the car
and what was going on?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
so I just kind of like came to and I'm like who
are you?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I need to get out like, let me out of here three
men in the car.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, I need to get out now.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
And you didn't know any of them.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Didn't know any of them Were you sitting, or were
you?

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I was sitting and I woke up, okay.
I woke up and I was in the backseat, like behind the passenger
, the front passenger, and I waslike you got to, let me out of
here, let me out right now.
And we're on the highway andthen I try to get out and I
can't get out.
Were you like who are you guys?

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Oh yeah, I'm like going crazy and were they saying
anything?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, like this?
Yeah, they were.
They were saying oh, we'regoing to take you to, you know,
go have sex.
They were saying that to you ohyeah, they wanted and they were
using like I hate the P word.
They were saying the P wordword.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
They were saying the p word and then they were um and
I was like no.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I never said I was gonna do that yeah, I was like.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
No, I never said I was gonna do that because you're
out of it, um, yeah, completely.
And then I'm like, wait, what?
No, I never said I was gonna dothat.
And then they were like yeah,you are yeah.
And so then I tried to grab,like jump to the front to grab
the steering wheel and I likecould not budge it.
It was like so strong, oh my,just to get like attention, yeah
, because you just feel like yougot to get out.

(15:28):
It's like so like and I'm gonnatry dying.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
What were they saying to you?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
I'm gonna try, I'm gonna die, trying to get out
yeah you knew.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
You knew this was like life or death yeah, because
they were telling you too.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, like they were taking me away from they were.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Away?
Were they old or young, or doyou not remember they were Like,
were they your age or were theyolder, would you say?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
I would say, maybe If they weren't the same, probably
slightly older, I would say,yeah, like 30s or 40s.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Were you tied down or anything.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Maybe like 30,.
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
What's that?
Were you tied down or anything?

Speaker 3 (16:07):
No, yeah, I don't know what's that, were you tied
down or anything?
No, they just had you in thecar, yeah, and so then, um, I
woke up and, uh, when I was, Itried, after I tried to crash
the car.
I don't think I told you this.
I'm sorry it's such a longstory no, we're great.
Oh, I um, I told you it's crazyso I, after I tried to crash the
vehicle or like get anyone'sattention out on the highway,
because it's like pitch dark outthere, there's no lights, like

(16:30):
I don't know in North Carolinaat night there's not like a
whole lot of lights going on.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
So you knew you were going out.
It's not like city time.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, I.
Just.
The only thing I saw was thesign to the next city over, and
I was like, like leaving citylimits oh yeah, yeah oh my god,
sick well you hear that thosestories like don't ever.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
If you're kidnapped, don't ever get in the car,
because once you leave it's likeso hard to find someone.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
So yeah, so I was in Raleigh leaving and I saw the
sign for Durham and I knew thatwas like the red flag that they
were taking me away somewhere.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
And then, um, so they were using the p-word to you,
like talking to you, thatderogatory, oh yeah, like we're
gonna we're gonna get some.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Oh my god, all this and I was like, oh no, but after
I tried, so then it was astruggle in the car did they hit
?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
hit you or anything?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, the guy in the back hit my face and my face,
hit the window and knocked mytwo front teeth out.
He hit you that hard.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
And I knew immediately my two front teeth
were just like gone.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
That, if that doesn't upset you, Were you bleeding
most likely you were stillprobably so out of it from
waking.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
I just, it's just like this feeling your tongue,
like when you don't have yourtwo front teeth, your tongue
sits differently in your mouth.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So like immediately, you know immediately so quick
question when you woke up andyou saw the guys, did you like
recognize any of them from thebar earlier?
No Like were they like casingyou out all night?
Oh, no, no, no, there was justlike.
You're like who are thesepeople?

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I have no clue who they were.
It's not like a guy you weretalking to.
I didn't know.
He knocked your teeth out.
I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, so you knew at that.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh, you know, it's life, or?

Speaker 1 (18:21):
death.
They're planning on not havingyou come back.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Right, and then I was really crying, upset,
distraught, and I just startedsaying the Lord's Prayer.
That's all I knew.
I was not.
That was what I remembered.
And in college my mom had givenme a bookmark and told me to
memorize the Lord's Prayer.
And I didn't, I mean, that'sall I.
That was my go-to.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
So you did memorize it because she, I memorized it,
because she told me to that'syou this?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
yeah okay mom, my kids are all hurt.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
You know, I had it next to my bed and I would
memorize it and I, yeah.
I think it is really unusualthat I memorized it, because it
wasn't a time in my life thatyeah, you know, I was really
following Christ or yes, yeah, Ithink we're always searching
yeah, I think we're alwayssearching for something we want
that love and comfort.

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And I, she just knew it wasreally important.
So I said the Lord's Prayer.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
You just thought I don't know what to do.
I'm gonna just start sayingthis yeah it wasn't a whole lot
of like.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
I just it, just like when I was fighting to get out,
so you couldn't open the door.
It's like you just act reallyfast.
Yeah, the doors were locked.
I couldn't open it?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Did they try touching you again at all?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Oh yeah, he was like grabbing me and, yeah, trying to
hold you down.
Well, um.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Or doing things.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Fill up.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
You know he wanted to fill me up, yeah, so you were
fighting him the whole time inthe car, yeah, and they were
probably yelling at you, yeah,and saying things to you Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah.
So it was like fast, it wasquick.
And then, when he knocked mytwo front teeth out, I started
to say the Lord's Prayer,because you knew, yeah, I had to
get out.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
And you were, you were like done fighting at that
point, because you were hurt.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay, so you started just saying it.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I just started saying it Like loud Reciting it oh
yeah, loud out loud, like reallyloud.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, like over and over or just once, because I was
crying.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, I think I just started to say it.
And when I started with ourfather, I was like I'm going to
cry and I got to.
Who art in heaven?
I don't even know which verse Iwas on, so you were saying it
like loud, like our Father whoart in heaven.
Yeah, I am just like.
And then the guy who wasdriving said don't bring the

(20:38):
Lord into this.
Really yeah, so what did you dothen?
We all just kind of froze and Ijust was like a blank stare.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Did he yell like don't bring the Lord into this.
Yeah, he said, don't bring theLord into this.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
And then he asked the guy next to him if they should
let me out.
And they let me out.
They pulled over and let me outon the side of the highway Just
from saying the Lord's Prayer,mm-hmm, because they gave him
the crepes.
That's crazy.
So somebody had a grandma or amom or somebody who like that
struck a chord?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, it struck a chord, yeah.
So do you feel like it struck achord with the driver the most?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, because the guy in the back, he
didn't care, he punched my twofront teeth out.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
I'm like so because he said, let's let her out.
They were like okay.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, and the passenger said let her out.
Oh, but the driver wasconvicted.
Yeah, so they both were.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
So I guess they were both convicted and the guy in
the back was already tooinvested.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
He just let yeah, he just let me out too.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
So they just stopped the car in the middle of the
highway and let you out and Iget out yeah.
And are you still pretty?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
disorientated, so disoriented, so distraught,
can't really like.
My body felt super heavy Fromthe drugs, from like what they
put into it and you're bleeding.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
That had to hurt You're scared to death shaking.
It's pitch black, pitch blackand you get out on the highway
with no lights.
No lights and you get out onthe highway with no lights.
No lights and the only lights Icould see.
Did you have a phone back then?

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Oh no, no phone, no, nothing.
So they threw you out and thenthey took off.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yes, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
And you're hysterical .

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Hysterical In the middle of a highway outskirts of
town.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
No lights on the freeway.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Right leave to get out though.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
So then I was like, okay, nextstep, go home and go back
towards Raleigh where I live.
And I saw the only light Icould see was for, like Miami
Boulevard off the I-40 was litup and so I was like I gotta get
over there and that's theopposite side of the highway.
So I crossed the highway, wasthere like a median, like
there's a huge construction zone, and I could didn't see it at

(22:55):
first when I started to go and Ijust needed to run away, you
know.
And so I crossed over a cement,one cement barrier, and then I
landed down in the mud and itwas just like I was like knee
deep in like Carolina red claymud, like it, just like it's
like I don't want to like kindof like quick sand yeah, oh my

(23:17):
gosh so muddy and I'm likeslopping through, yeah, trying
to getout in the dark.
And then, finally, I get to theother side and I have to climb
over another cement barrier andat that time I'm in the, I'm on
the highway.
Well, I thought I was on themedian and I wasn't Come to find

(23:39):
out.
I was like in the middle.
I was in the middle of the road, like I was in the middle of a
lane, probably because thecement barrier was butted up.
Yeah, the highway because ofthe construction right.
And I am just walking backtowards Raleigh, trying to run,

(24:00):
walk anything, and I hear a carcome and I just like throw my
hands in the air and scream atthe top of my lungs God help me.
Like with all my might and allmy being, and I had no clue, I
was about to get hit by a truckbecause it was from behind.
Oh, the car was behind you.
Yeah, the truck was behind me.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
So he didn't see you?

Speaker 3 (24:24):
No, because that's pitch black.
It was pitch black and hewasn't expecting a young woman
on the highway in the middle ofthe night and in construction,
it's like 2 or 3 am and it's abig truck 3 am.
Yeah, so it was like a deliverytruck, um, and it has like a
flat front.
It's an Isuzu truck.
I see them all the time.
It's.
Yeah, it's like a reminder whenyou're waving your hands.

(24:45):
Were you waving your hand?
Yeah, he, thankfully he wasgoing the speed limit's.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, it's like a reminder when you're waving your
hands.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Were you waving your hand?
Yeah, he, thankfully he wasgoing the speed limit though.
He was going like I think thespeed limit's like 60 and you're
waving behind you.
Yeah, there was no time, I justheard the car and I threw my
hands up and he came from behind.
So I'm walking this way andthrow my hands up in the air and

(25:08):
say, lord help me Not knowing.
He was probably right.
I mean, he was right there.
I got clipped on my right sideand hit from behind and the
driver swears that he sawsomeone walking behind me and I
was like, well, if anyone wasbehind me, like they could have
caught me, like I would havelike if they were trying to
kidnap me again or swung aroundto come get me, then they would

(25:30):
have gotten me.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Because I was so like I couldn't run, like I just
wanted to run and I couldn't run.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Wait, he swears, he saw someone behind you yeah, he
saw someone.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I wonder if it was like an angel or something.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, that are like.
I saw somebody like I wonder ifit was like you know God with
you.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
He was a very devout Christian, the guy who hit you.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, so he saw, he hit you and he pulled over
Immediately.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, and called emergency services.
Pretty sure it was just tryinghis heart out.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Well, thank goodness he had a like construction
vehicle, because I bet you,that's why they had access to a
phone?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Oh yeah, because back then there wasn't really like
cell phones.
Yeah, like a delivery vehicle.
Yeah, you're right, a regularcar wouldn't have had a phone to
call.
Did he knock?
Did you out?
Oh yeah, like were you passedout again.
When he hit you?
Oh, oh yeah, I was completelyknocked out.
Okay, I don't even rememberbeing hit.
Yeah, and I don't rememberbeing hit at all, I just

(26:37):
remember um them asking for myphone number.
They asked if I had a phonenumber for someone to call
someone.
I had my ID in my back pocket.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, because we were going out of the bars.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, so they were able to get my name, but they
wanted a phone number.
So then they called my parentsin the middle of the night and
it's like the dreaded phone callmy mom calls it.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Oh my God, Is it still right now?
Can you imagine getting thatcall?
Oh I know, oh, it's so weirdwake up, like what happened.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
So he called for 911.
Um, you woke up at all on theside of the road?
No, yeah, so you woke up in thehospital.
Yes, so last thing, you knowyou're crawling through the mud
and then you hear a car.
Hear a car and then you wake upin the hospital right and I
just I had.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
I knew that I had called out with all my being for
God to help me.
Like everything inside my bodywanted God to help me.
And so when I woke up and Icame to in the ICU, first my
dad's like you've been hit by atruck, and I was like, oh my
gosh, like just kind of like inshock, like I didn't even know.

(27:46):
And then, but my first questionwas can I walk?
Can I?
Because I'm just like, yeah,that's normal.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Like am I paralyzed.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, can I walk.
Yes, like, can I have children?
And they're like.
We'll get back to you on thatand that's an interesting
question.
Yeah, I know the two firstquestions can I walk and can I
have?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
children 22 at the bar, you know, yeah I know right
.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, when you woke up, did you remember the guys
like did you remember beingkidnapped or did you just?

Speaker 3 (28:18):
I think, yeah.
So I remember like I must havegone to like surgery and then,
um, and I remember the surgeonasking me how did your two front
teeth get like?
He woke me up.
Yeah, tried to be as gentle andI was just like hysterical,
like still scared, still thoughtmaybe I don't know you were

(28:39):
kidnapped again, I don't evenknow.
Yeah, just so distraught andhysterical and was just started
falling like they hit me, youknow, and um.
So then he knew probably thenthat he needed to like run all
the rape kits, but I had bled somuch did they do anything to
wait?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
you had bled so much from from the uh, my pelvis
being shattered.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I had, oh, from the accident.
Yeah, like I don't know thatthe rape kit Was that correct?
I'm not very medical.
Yeah, yeah, because it wasafter I had lost like liters of
blood.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
So you shattered your ?
Yeah, so tell me what happenedin the accident.
What happened to your body?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
I had a scalp laceration, a skull fracture,
two front teeth knocked out frombeing hit, fractured ribs, lung
contusion, liver laceration,your arm, my arm, my right ulna
was broken Pelvis.

(29:42):
Pelvis was completely shattered.
My mom said it was just likefive pieces, like in pieces,
multiple pieces on the x-ray.
When she saw it she was rightin there.
I wanted to be right in therein the emergency room and
everything.
and she fought for my life aswell, telling them they better
get me stable because youweren't sadly, because I was not
stable, I was losing a lot ofblood well, you were hit by a

(30:05):
big delivery truck.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
yeah, going 60 miles an hour it's insane.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
It's insane.
You're alive, yeah, and I'msurprised like my bones didn't
like like I had a liverlaceration and a lung contusion,
but I'm surprised like my bonesdidn't like puncture me somehow
, you know, because they were.
My pelvis was just completelyshattered.
Yeah, were you on a ventilator?
I don't know.
I wonder for a minute to getthose are some pretty major

(30:31):
organs.
Oh yeah, probably um.
You know, in ICU, I'm trying.
I don't remember waking up tohaving a ventilator in ICU.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, yeah were you relieved that you were in a
hospital and not dead when youwoke up?

Speaker 3 (30:48):
yes, like even if the accident it was still probably
like I'm still here yes, yeah,so thankful, so thankful to be
alive and to be surrounded byfamily, and and all I wanted to
know was what happened.
Like I just need to know thetruth, like can somebody just
tell me the truth?
And I was just, but I also justhad this like huge um, uh, I

(31:14):
don't.
I just really wanted to knowthe Lord really more right away
immediately.
I didn't want to listen to anymusic, but Christian music.
Like you knew, he saved you, ohfor sure, immediately, like a
hundred percent.
A hundred percent, that's crazy.
There's just no otherexplanation for how I survived,

(31:34):
like I really feel like it wasdivine intervention somehow.
Oh, a hundred percent, yeah,divine intervention because, uh,
yeah, there was just so manyclose calls, you know, that
could have taken my life, yeah,so then, what was the recovery
like from there?

(31:54):
Long.
It was like 10 weeks in thehospital.
Oh my gosh, that's long, yeah.
So at first, though, they wereso good to me, so it's a miracle
in itself that I was by, like,one of the most renowned
hospitals in the world at.
Duke Hospital.
I mean, there's no way I wouldhave survived at some like

(32:17):
little hospital, yeah, if umbecause my surgeon, like he's
the best in the world.
That's crazy and so, yeah, Idon't think anyone else could
have pieced me together.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
So in all of this bad , we see God showing up in like
all these different places.
Yeah that he held you in theworst moment of your life, he
was still protecting you.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yes, I mean, and it's just like one thing after
another, like the good, just inthe light just kept shining
through.
You know, it was such ahorrible experience, but I could
see God in every turn, becauseit was horrific, it was painful,
it was excruciatingly painfulyeah, working back from that

(33:06):
yeah the pelvis.
So you shattered your pelvis,yeah, and you are still able to
have kids yeah, I was just gonnasay that's insane that you
could still have kids in yourpelvis yeah, so, um, I had to
have like a it's called aexternal fixator, so I had like
pins going in my pelvis and pinscoming out of you know, and so

(33:28):
I had to lay bedridden for along time.
Like how long?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I guess it was like 10 weeks, 10 weeks in the
hospital and then did you haveto like, relearn how to walk and
everything uh, yeah, I had tomy.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
All my muscles had atrophied.
I had physical therapy while Iwas in the hospital.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
10 weeks is a really long time to be in a hospital
yeah, and so a lot can go wrong.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
during that time, yeah, and my mom was my um
advocate the whole way and mydad and my brother and sister
and I had a lot of friendscoming to visit me and um, so I
started off like in thepediatric unit at Duke and, um,

(34:16):
yeah, like I just didn't knowwhat happened and I wanted
answers.
But I knew I wasn't going toget any answers and I just cried
and cried and nurses were likeare you saved?
Are you saved?
They said that to you.
Yeah, like a nurse, you knowshe had come in to clean the
room or whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
And it's just like the Lord just was bringing all
these people into my life, yeah,and I was like yes, I'm saved,
which I feel like that's like alegal in a way like not really,
it's just not common.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah, because I was so encouraged to do that,
yeah right god for fully.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Oh, I know so you're crying in the room and they're
asking you are you saved?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
yeah, and I was like did anyone pray with you or
anything?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
uh, not at that moment, but later yet, like I
had a lot of people coming inand praying and praying with me,
but no, it was more of theexperience that I think saved me
, and knowing that the Lord hadsaved me, and me wanting to, and
me like admitting, like yes, Iam saved, yeah, literally yes.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
So quick question when you, after you like, were
out of surgery and more with theprogram, did you remember,
remember, like, oh, I waskidnapped.
Like did you tell the police?
Did they like?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
try to find the guys.
Yeah, so there was like areport and I didn't have like
license plate numbers, I didn'thave and your memory was foggy
because you were like out of it,so foggy All I could say was
there was an SUV, and then Icould describe the guys a little
bit, but I didn't know anynames, I didn't know where they
were from, I didn't know a wholelot and that was it.

(35:47):
And they never found them right.
No, no, they didn't.
And for a long time, like weinvestigated, like we had a
private investigator to try tofind, Really your parents,
friends were trying to go to thebars, everybody was trying to
help to find out what happenedand who took me, and all that.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Was there cameras or anything Did they see?

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Not that I know of.
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Back then they probably didn't have cameras.
Well, it's just crazy, becauseit's like who knows if those
guys are out there did it tosomeone else, or if she wasn't
the first.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I know right, she was the first, yeah, so I just
really had to pray and forgiveand forgive and forgive.
Oh yeah, it's so hard Like Istill have to just like Forgive
them.
It's like a yeah, becauseotherwise it'll just eat me up.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Did you so 10 weeks in the hospital?
Did you have to re physicaltherapy?
I'm sure it wasn't just the 10weeks, it was probably at least
a year of recovery, right?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah.
And so so did you go back home?
I was able to go home byChristmas and have surgery to um
, have the pelvic fixator, andalso I had like skin grafts and
stuff.
Yeah, all at once.
But because my mom was was anurse, they allowed me to go
home and recover and I had likea hospital bed at home and like

(37:08):
they reconfigured the house.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
They made the dining room.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, they made the dining room like into they had a
hospital bed and all that.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Oh my god so how long did that go on?
I?

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I don't know.
Probably, I guess, anothereight weeks or so.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Maybe another 10 weeks, and then did you go ever
back to your apartment on thebeach?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Oh no, no, my apartment was in Raleigh and my
family had to go and clean itout and tell them what happened?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
You just thought it was done.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, that was done.
And go back to where I workedand tell them You're done, yeah.
So, you moved home, moved home.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, life's changed.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Completely changed.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Do you feel like you had like, besides like obviously
getting saved and wanting toseek Jesus and all that, do you
feel like you had like PTSD fromthe whole experience, like were
you freaked out to go out or toI mean, obviously you weren't
going out to the bar at thatpoint, but like do you feel like
you had like trauma?

(38:07):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, like emotional yeah, yeah, did you go to
counseling?
For sure?
Yeah, you have to still incounseling good yeah that's
still have.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
PTSD from it.
It's just um, I don't know,like when you're in it and
trying to heal and get your bodyback to just functioning.
Yeah, I mean because I had acatheter for a long, I don't
know, it's probably too much.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
No, it's never too much on here.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I mean, it was almost like I was back to being a baby
.
Like that's what my parents andI kind of attributed it to Like
it's like I'm being born again.
You know I was born again.
My parents are there doing allthe things they do everything.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Well, my mom especially, and then when you
said you were so independent,you had like moved.
So, that's really hard to go.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Independent, so like totally dependent again.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yes, and then after I got home and you know I had to
use a wheelchair and then awalker and then physical therapy
was coming to the house andjust regaining all my strength,
and then finally I could go tophysical therapy at the gym and
do aquatic therapy and just getstronger and try to get stronger

(39:22):
and stronger and eventually Iwas, and praise the Lord and all
.
During that time I just wantedto go to church.
So when I was physically ableto go to church, there was a
pastor and a minister that cameto see me while I was in the
hospital.
I didn't even know them, butfriends who I went to college

(39:43):
with were like, oh you know,sent their pastor or their
minister to come see me and theywould see me in the hospital.
I mean, people just ralliedaround me and just lifted me up
and I really think the power ofprayer got me through all those
really really difficult times.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Well, I not.
This is not the same.
But I've been through things,even like in here, whatever.
When you go through something,you're like I'm going to change
after this, like I'm gonna, I'mgoing to be better, and even as
a kid, you know you negotiate,you get me through this.
I promise I won't miss one moreservice or I'm going to live
different you know in college.
I made those deals all the timeso I could see where, maybe

(40:19):
after the accident, when youwoke up, we're grateful, we're
passionate and then, as you'regoing through, really it looked
like the road got harder.
I mean, as hard as that nightwas in the car.
It wasn't like things turnedaround quickly ever during that
time.
Did you ever change?
Did you ever get like?
You know, I think people getangry or bitter like god.
Why all this?
Yeah, did you ever questionthat or did you stay on that

(40:43):
grateful?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
uh, I was super grateful and so excited to go to
church just the majority of thetime.
That's crazy.
However, like getting dressedand seeing the scars are like
huge reminders all the time, allthe time, really.
Yeah, what are the scars like?
They're kind of personal like.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I just like it's okay , they're big, yeah, yeah.
So how do you work through thatreminder?

Speaker 3 (41:15):
uh, just so, thankfulness, gratefulness,
youness.
You know, and you know myhusband's really good at saying,
well, we've got you, you know.
Yeah, that's cute, and myparents too, like I wouldn't
have it any other way.
I have you, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
So when you you met your husband after all this
Mm-hmm, so did you have to tellhim what happened to you?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yes, Like I think that was part of the healing too
, Like it was just so big andsuch a huge story and part of my
life now.
Yeah, that I.
It was only fair that I tellhim how did you meet him?
I met him through a friend.
We had a mutual friend and Iwas leading a Bible study.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
It was Rick Warren'ss so you got that involved in
church after that, yeah, yeah.
So now you're leading a biblestudy.
How many years later?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
uh, I gosh, that was probably only like a year and a
half.
That's how much you dove intoyour faith oh, for sure yeah,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
So you had a Bible study and he walked in.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yeah, it was the no, it was the purpose-driven life.
And my friend's boyfriend cameto the Bible study and the
boyfriend was in the squadron inthe Air Force fighter pilot
squadron with Steve and Stevehad helped out my friend's mom

(42:45):
like move some furniture, andthen my, and then Steve asked my
friend, hey, do you got anyfriends you want to set me up
with?
Because they were like, oh,thank you so much, steve, thank
you for all your help.
You know, uh, I don't even knowif they asked the questions or
anything you know we could do.
And then he was the joke is hesaid well, actually, do you have

(43:06):
any friends?
you, yeah, set me up with yeahand um, at first my friend was
like no, actually I don't, buther boyfriend had met me at the
bible study, was like what aboutTrisha?
And so well, that's it.
We went to a little minorleague hockey game and it was a

(43:28):
whole squadron.
They all went out and they allknew that my husband was being
set up with me.
And then there was anothersingle guy too, and so they put
like me in between the twosingle guys and like wow, yeah
yeah, about night they're bothlike super nice.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, we're just talking.
Everybody's having a good time.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
So you picked.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Steve, I picked Steve .

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, that's so cool.
So how long after you guysstarted dating did you tell him
what had happened to you?
Was it like right away?

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Or was it like more serious?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
He would probably know the answer to that.
Okay, probably know the answerto that.
okay, so it was probably prettyquickly because I was living
with my parents still and I hadto like explain that and just
kind of like go like, hey, thisjust happened not that long ago
because we talked a lot aboutour faith, yeah talked a lot
about our faith and when he hadgrown up as a in a Christian

(44:21):
family with great parents andgreat family, and I was like wow
really, and I was so intriguedand I was just telling him all
the Bible studies I was in andlearning about the Lord and I
just loved it so much.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Do you think your parents' faith grew through this
whole thing too?
Oh yeah, Like did theirrelationship change with God?

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yes, yeah, I think they definitely became believers
.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy.
And so where you were living inraleigh, when you were going to
, when you were when theaccident happened, where your,
where your parents live, wasthat a different city, different
city.
So if you wouldn't have comehome, you wouldn't have met
steve correct.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, yeah, it was his first.
Uh duty station was infayetteville, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, that's so cool.
So again, god putting you inthe places he wants you for his,
his plan.
But you know we talk about thisa lot how messy the plan can be
sometimes.
This is a very good example ofit.
But it's crazy because churchlast week was about anxiety and
it's about how gratefulnessattacks anxiety, because anxiety
is longing for what we want tobe or what we don't have yet or

(45:29):
what we're worried we're notenough and this and that.
And then, when we focus ongratitude, it it calms that down
, calms those voices.
So the whole time I'm sittinghere listening to you speak,
you're talking about howgrateful you are and that makes
me emotional because it's likehow do you be that grateful in
like such a hard, hard time?
That's a gift.

(45:50):
That's not normal.
Yeah, no, I've been through alot of medical things and I'm
not grateful.
When I'm going through them,I'm very frustrated, yeah, and
like relearning to walk and andbe like that.
That's a really, really hardtime and it literally sounds
like the whole time you're justthinking of what you have
instead of what you don't.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
And that's like such a gift that you're like that and
you're like trying to go tochurch and seek that instead of
just like sitting and feelingsorry, which I feel like so many
people could choose.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
I feel sorry for myself for way less Dang it, you
know, sorry, which I feel likeso many people could choose.
I feel sorry for myself for wayless, you know, but uh, it's
just inspiring.
It really is, and it'sinspiring, um.
So we're on that flight, we'reall at NCA together and, in
funny story, trisha'ssister-in-law was my college
roommate.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
So I know which is so weird.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Steve's family very well.
I think I called him Mike, butthat's her husband's name.
But Steve's amazing, I know his.
Which is so weird.
Steve's family very well.
I think I called him Mike, butthat's her husband's name.
But Steve's amazing, I know hisfamily very well.
They're amazing and it's socool as I got, as I've gotten to
know you, that it's like crazyCause seeing that plan unfold,
it's like God's perfect purpose.
But, um, you know, when we wereat NCA, obviously super scary.

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And then when we're on ourflight home, tisha does this
thing, because I told Tisha thisstory after Tisha was up in the
room.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I don't know why you weren't at the pool with us, to
be honest um, yeah, that isweird.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, you're like you're probably grouchy.
So, anyways, I told Tisha thestory after and she couldn't get
over it.
You know the lord's prayer, soshe was.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I was like that's not real you know, and she's like
no, it really is.
And I was like, are you serious?
Cause it's such a like like Idon't know anyone that had
something that happened, likeit's so crazy, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
And so she now does the Lord's prayer all the time.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
And it's funny because our church did a service
on the Lord's prayer andthere's like a study like
certain personalities have aharder time praying, like um
cause, prayer is very abstract,you know.
It's kind of like there's noright way to do it and so for
certain personalities that likearen't good with that, like it's

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harder to pray.
It's like a proven thing and soIs that your personality?
Yes, so like I like direction,like this is what to do.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Is it right or wrong?
You don't want to do it wrong,I want to do it right.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yes, and so prayer is like really difficult for me,
Like unless I have somethingI've specific I want to pray for
, like just to pray on a daily.
It's like I get.
I I'm like oh, what do I say?
Am I doing it right?
The Lord's Prayer and how theydissected it and it because
Jesus gives us that, so it'slike a very good directive of

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how to pray.
And so after that service, andthen I saw this other girl that
I follow on Instagram and shewas saying how she was
explaining how, why prayer isharder for certain personalities
than others, and like how weshould use the Lord's Prayer and
like pray that, and so Istarted doing that.
And then she told me the story.
So it was like we should usethe Lord's Prayer and like, pray
that, and so I started doingthat, and then she told me the
story.
So it was like three thingsabout the Lord's.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Prayer.
Oh, I didn't realize that wasbefore.
That, yeah, and it was real,because growing up we read the
Lord's Prayer every day atchurch, but, like in newer
churches, you don't even learnthe Lord's Prayer?

Speaker 2 (48:59):
No, and I didn't grow up in church, so the first I
heard about the Lord's Prayer isat church, when they did it,
like I've heard it yeah, butlike not dissected.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
It's not like the meaning and the meaning and I
didn't even know.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
That's like when Jesus was telling him how to
pray.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I didn't know what it was.
I just saw the Lord's Prayer.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Like I, didn't know what it was.
So then I learned that, andthen I saw the girl on Instagram
, and then you told me the story.
So then I felt like God waswanting me to learn the Lord's
Prayer.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Oh my goodness, I didn't even know that was all
going on.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
So I felt like three things happened that were
telling me about the Lord'sPrayer.
So I was like shit, I'mmemorizing this Today.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yes, today, and then I'm sending it on our family
group chat.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
I'm like everyone, memorize this Save Trisha's life
.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Like I rises, save Trisha's life, like I was dead
serious, it's like a big thingin her life.
So then we're on the flight afew weeks ago and we're all
saying the lord's prayer.
Trisha's there all the time.
Every fight she starts yellingthe lord's prayer.
I'm like here we go again.
I just repeat it over and overand over and it was so ironic
because we were all together andwe're telling Trisha ask Steve,
what's happening with thisplane?
And we're saying our, ourfather, who art in heaven, how
will be thy name?

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And we were saved again, welanded and it was great.
But it was like such a tool,because at that time you weren't
as strong in your faith, butyou had the Lord's Prayer, and
so that was what you feltcomfortable going to.
And, like.
That story will forever give mechills and remind me how real
God is.
I never heard you say that hesaw someone behind you.
That, to me, is like I'll thinkabout that for a while, For

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sure For a while that's prettycrazy Little small miracles.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
That all happened yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
And yeah, Were you nervous to have kids because of
your pelvis?
I'm sure they were nervous foryou to carry.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, I think I had to go have like a cat scan.
No, yeah, I think I had to gohave like a cat scan.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
No, well, yeah I think I did.
I think they had to make sureeverything was good to hold.
Yeah, did you deliver like,were you able to push or did you
have a?

Speaker 3 (50:52):
c-section, uh, okay.
So I had to have a high-riskdoctor, not only for my pelvis,
but also after I broke my arm.
My arm swelled up like aballoon and they didn't know why
and I went to the hospital.
This was like a month after I'dalready been home and I went to
the hospital and like bloodshot out and like shot the

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doctor.
It's like beautiful white coaton the wall and just like
splattered whenever they likepressed it, yeah it was kind of
comical at the time because I'dalready been through so much.
I was like, oh my gosh, what ishappening?
Was it just like a blood bubble?
Yes, it was like a hematoma.
And they're like why do youhave a hematoma?
I'm like I don't know.
And so they sent me to theblood the hematologist and

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they're going to watch you.
So I have another like blooddisease, where your blood it's
called von Willebrand's doesn'tclot right away, and so whenever
I was pregnant there's a lotthat goes into pregnancy.
It's really just incredible.
Your body kind of likeregulates and so while I'm
pregnant my blood work is good,like it's, my blood will clot

(52:00):
correctly All the things.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
That is crazy, but as soon as you give birth, then
it's my blood will clotcorrectly all the things.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
That is crazy, but as soon as you give birth, then
it's like no, Because you don'twant to bleed to death.
Right.
So it's like they didn't wantme to lose a ton of blood and I
couldn't have an epidural.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
You delivered naturally.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Yeah, so first was a C-section because it was a
really tiny hospital and theywere like we don't know what's
going to happen.
I, because it was a really tinyhospital and they're like we
don't know what's going tohappen.
I didn't make it to thehigh-risk doctor.
They were two hours away and Iwas already dilated, like was
that post-carry?
Yeah, because I am like aboutto give birth and I was at a
different hospital than I wassupposed to be at with it and um

(52:37):
, yeah, why it was ready to comeout enter the world and come
out yeah, couldn't make it, sothey just had a c-section.
And you know, I'm so like out ofit.
I'm like, okay, yeah, c-sectionit is.
And so I had a c-section, orthat's the best option.
Well, I had to be completelyput under.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Oh for that and yeah, because they can't give you the
right, no, epidural, no, liketw, whatever it's called when
you get it.
Spine block yeah, the spinalwhatever.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, so when I gave birth to Maren, the doctor in
Mississippi went back to thepaperwork for the the high risk
doctor and he had suggestedvaginal.
So I had a VBAC.
You had a VBAC.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, I so wanted to like I felt like, yeah, that's
like risky in itself.
That's crazy that you were.
You pushed through that and youdid.
You not have an epidural, noepidural, so you had a natural
childbirth, yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
And it was very rewarding it was like Again,
here she is.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
I rewarding.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
It was like again here she is, I know it's really
crazy to say I'm gonna be abetter person after no, I hope
so.
It's just like the whole timein the hospital, all the nurses
like I got to know the nursespretty well and they were just
incredible and um, they're likewow, girl, childbirth's gonna be
nothing for you, you know,because of all the pain I went
through, yeah, and everythingdid you feel like it was well
again?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
that's almost preparing you.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
It's weird how mind-blowing you're so
intriguing and you're thesweetest thing, thank you yeah,
I don't feel that way at all bygolly, miss Tisha's just really
having a bad day?
yeah, but every day we've seenyou ever in our lives.
You're in a good mood andsmiling ear to ear like it's
just crazy how God's gonna usehis testimony and I I think this
is the beginning and that'ssomething we talked about that

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day.
I was that whole day and it wasat a time in my life where I
was quitting.
I had called people from thistrip and said that I'm leaving
the team.
Like it was such a big week forme last year when we were at
Summit.
That's when I called everyoneand started to tell them because
I felt like it was so time.
So your story really inspiredme and you said I really feel

(54:41):
like God wants me to tell mystory and I really want to
because I'm like you need towrite a book, like you need to
get this out, like this issomething I've never heard in my
life.
Yeah, and you were like I justfeel like that's my purpose is
that God wants me to tell thisstory, so we're just grateful
that we get to be the first time.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yeah, you know yeah, for sure, so did you do your
kids obviously know this story.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Yes, yes, yeah, I don't know that they know, like
all the details.
It's funny because, like my momhas told them when they were
really young, and then I'm suremy husband has told them a
little bit and I just kind ofsay, yeah, I had a near-death
experience, I was hit by a truck, like I don't go into huge
detail, but now that they'reolder I feel like they are ready
and I think that is God'sprovision, because it's a

(55:33):
traumatic story and to listen tothat they have to be old enough
to understand it right and notyeah, and even like steve as an
adult, when he heard it, he hewas moved like who are these men
and how do I find?
yeah, no, it's crazy, and it'sjust like happens and we're
we're naive sometimes.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
So I think your story is also going to save people's
lives because they're going tobe careful who they stay out of
at a bar with.
You're going to be carefulabout what you drink.
You know you had just happenedto not be with your core group
of friends.
That would have been makingsure you're with them when they
leave.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like it's very I've been, I'vegone out with so many people I
probably shouldn't have, youknow, and it's just such an

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important story of courage andit's scary.
But it also shows that God canshow up in any circumstance when
you think.
I mean, who would have thoughtyou would have been out of that
car After your teeth were gone?
Who would have thought theywould have let you out?
It's crazy.
And the fact that you could seetheir faces, it's crazy that

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they let you out.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
So because you have a daughter, obviously, and she's
getting older, do you feel likeyou have fears about her being
that age or do you just feellike, oh, trust God, they'll
protect her?
Like what?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
are your thoughts on?

Speaker 2 (56:50):
like.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Oh yeah, we know Tisha's pretty Cause.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
I'm, yeah, I'm really crazy, I think every well, oh,
no, I worry.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
I'm always thinking my kids are getting sex the
worst you know?

Speaker 3 (56:58):
yeah, absolutely, especially living in a big city.
Yeah, like, yeah, I think Ihave, um, definitely passed on
that anxiety to my daughter alittle bit, really, yeah and I
think in a healthy wayperspective or more like gotta
be careful like this can happentime we also have to be smart,

(57:20):
right, yeah, we gotta, yeah, uh,row to shore.
You know, we can't, we can'tjust stand by.
Um, so, yeah, for sure, I Iwant her to make.
She is better.
She already is better than meshe's way better.
Yeah, oh, you're pretty amazingsmarter she's, she, she's,

(57:42):
prettier, she's, she's amazing,but you're amazing too, she's so
I, in that sense, like I don'tworry, like I feel like she's so
like assertive and sure ofherself that she would be like
uh no, like she would be able tolike protect herself.

(58:02):
However, I do feel likeself-defense, like I think about
her like learning self-defenseyeah, I think that, even with my
son yeah, steve really wantsthe kids to like learn jujitsu
and like I do.
I feel like we're at that pointlike you need to like.
I want them to be prepared andhave, if something happens, I
agree not just feeling helplesslike what do I do?

(58:22):
Like how you felt yeah, andjust like know yourself so well,
like I don't feel like whenwe're in our 20s, that we really
know ourselves.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I was so bad in my 20s like we're just kind of like
.
I was just like you're justlost and very naive that bad
things can happen.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's a very self-thinking about
anything bad happening we talkedhow we went to have a sue and
we got on boats with people wedidn't know that's very
dangerous.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Oh yeah, like a lot of dangerous decisions.
I went to vegas with all mygirlfriends crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Oh yeah, something to think about, yeah yeah, so, um,
I I think it's so important tohave a relationship with the
Lord and like to really bestrong in that and, yeah, just
keep seeking the Lord.
And I think if she stays onthat path and if my son stays on
that path, I'll protect him.

(59:11):
Yeah, and you know, and Iwasn't on that path, I just it
was just a tiny little bit offaith that I had in God to save
me that day.
I wasn't like a devoutChristian, like living the right
way at all.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Which I love.
That because I think sometimeswe think, as only if you're on
that good path are you going toget grace, or protection and all
those things.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
And you got it, but that's what probably saved you
is like you felt so worthy afterthat, like oh, he saved me.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Yeah, little old me, so much grace and um, yeah, so I
do think kids need to like welearn from our mistakes.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
But yeah, just well, I like this story because I
think sometimes people have aperspective and I have even had
this perspective because I'veseen things happen not just to
me but family members Like whydo bad things happen if there's
God?
And so I love when people arelike bad things are going to

(01:00:18):
happen because God can, becausewe're bad, people make bad
choices.
Yeah, like those guys were badguys and God didn't let, like he
didn't make that happen, youknow, but then he was able to
save you and it's funny how hecan turn any circumstance into
good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yes, Not funny, but it's amazing Ironic.
No, it's so how he can turn anycircumstance into good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yes, not funny, but it's ironic.
No, it's so true.
Yeah, so I love how you choseto, instead of being like I
can't believe there's still alot of bad did happen.
Yeah, like there's no God yeah,he let me get hit by a truck.
He let my teeth get knocked outlike he let, but instead you
were like he saved me.
You focus and I think that'sthe good lesson, like bad things
will happen and all Godpromises is he's going to be
there with us through them.

(01:01:04):
Which he so evidently was solike if people can learn to
cling to that like bad thingsare going to happen, but he'll
be there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Yeah, every.
It's just like weathering thestorm, like yeah, yeah, you know
, know, I'm sure you listen toChristian.
I love Christian music.
Yeah, because it's like it justkind of sings what's on your
heart and you can trust in thestorm, you can have faith.
You know he's been so faithfuland you can go back to like how

(01:01:34):
he's been so faithful in yourlives.
Yeah, and you know, we havebeautiful, healthy children.
We've got good husbands We'vegot.
Yeah, you know there's just somuch that we forget and we kind
of To be grateful for you yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah, gratitude.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
It's easy to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Gratitude.
Let's be grateful this week.
Thank you, tricia, you didamazing.
I told the story.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, I had all these questions I'm like, and then
what she's like I don't know.
But then she was hit by a truck.
I'm like, well, how'd she getfrom the car to the truck?

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Like it was like you know I'm the summary.
It changed my life.
Thank you, Trisha.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Oh, it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
You told it so beautifully, and you trisha I
love you.
See you guys next week.
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