S3 E22: It's Not That Deep

So we were so sure we were dishing out solid dating advice… until we realized we might’ve been totally off. Oops 🤐

In this episode, Crystal and Teisha spiral (in the best way) through breakups, ghosting, and the infamous “talking stage” that feels like purgatory in cute outfits.

Somewhere along the way, we end up debating Teisha’s need for random mid-day “bed breaks,” which Crystal insists makes zero sense unless you’re a Victorian child recovering from the flu. There’s also a rant about teen PDA, a Tulsa King side quest, and the wildest story about a plane crash survivor who swears God told him not to buckle his seatbelt, and that’s what saved him. Casual.

From chaotic hot takes to unexpected wisdom, it’s equal parts hilarious and weirdly deep. 

Basically: less podcast, more chats! Come hang with us!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you, and Crystal makes fun of methe whole time and it's great
and it's real Welcome.

(00:24):
Welcome To Jerking Around.
Speaking of a jerk, tisha mightbe a little jerky today, like
legitimate, I think I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I said that last week , though.
I said that about you last weekand you acted so good, yeah, I
feel like you just say it everyweek, but that's fine.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Well, I'm trying to make you laugh and know you're
acting quiet.
Let's figure out what's goingon?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, I think I'm tired.
I have a slight headache, youknow slight, maybe massive.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I asked I'm not gonna say what I said in the car
because that's naughty.
No, but we're having a daywhere I was like, hey, after the
podcast, you want to go liketill brunch and get a drink,
which I never, ever want to dothat.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
You never drink in the day it's ever, or like
hardly that's what I mean.
Even a dinner, you'll have likea half yeah for you to want to
have a drink in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
You know, when you feel like you're just tired,
yeah Of everybody, yeah, yeah,I'm in that.
I think it's just like you didall the things, like it's been a
really crazy last couple ofweeks, like not bad, crazy,
enjoyable crazy, not like stress, is Not that just like night
night, like my brain is tired.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
So I want to go.
You just want to kind ofdecompress.
I want to be like 20.
Yeah, you know, and like putpantyhose on her head and stuff,
and I feel like this weatheralways makes me want to like day
drink when it's warming up.
Really.
Yeah, I saw this thing and it'slike it's margarita by the pool
.
Weather I'm like it's totallythe spring makes me really want
to like drink by the pool andI'm not even a big drinker

(01:46):
either.
But like margaritas by the pooland laying out like not a care
in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, I want not a care in the world.
That's what I'm looking for.
Like I'm 20 laying out, that'swhat I want, but I have way more
stretch marks now.
Yeah, I want that feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I'm feeling that Ithink I would have agreed.
I just have a headache, somaybe I'll get some Advil.
I don't feel like I'm at no.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I feel like I could still make something happen
Today.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I'm not giving up.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I know I was like oh, it wasn't like a hard, no, no.
Like, if I ask for Chino, Ithink you'll say hard no, yeah,
we're going to get some Tylenoland then we're going to or she
hates Tylenol.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I won't have Tylenol.
She hates.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Tylenol.
And now I'm saying no Tylenol.
They're like why I'm like.
Tisha said you don't know why,I don't even know why anymore.
I just Tisha said no Tylenol.
The kids are like no Tylenol.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
And.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm like.
But moving on, remember the dayyou went to the hospital,
jumped out of the car?
We're not even telling that.
I think we've told that story.
Actually I feel like we have.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, I got broken up with.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
so then we all met at the bar and took shots, Because
that's an appropriate way todeal with a breakup.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Not, it doesn't make you feel better.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
And we had Jen with us right, yeah, what good
friends we are, you know, yeah,they met me at the bar and I was
crying.
It's where Arrowhead Grill isnow.
I know it used to be somethingelse.
It was a Mexican place Mexican,yeah, we were taking shots.
It was horrid.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Which is like I don't even take shots.
And then your boyfriend reallymind it, except sometimes he's
like, hey, no flashing, like ifwe're around like new people,
and he's like like, if we'rearound my normal best friends

(03:34):
that have seen it a hundredtimes, he's like he doesn't care
.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
But then when it's like around new people, he's
like, hey, like no flashingtonight, you know, and I'm like,
I'm like you know, like you'reso controlling.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, I'm just kidding.
But no, I did have acontrolling, I'm just kidding.
I did have a controllingboyfriend.
He was controlling, it was thebangs guy yeah, bangs, and she
tried to be Latino.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
And in the parking lot he like came to pick me up
because I couldn't drive and Iflashed him and he got so mad.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
So then he's like get , get in the car.
So I get in the car and I'mlike yelling, and then we like
stop at a stoplight and we'refighting.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
So I jump out of the car and I'm running across the
like main road, bell road orunion hills.
That's a healthy relationshipit was awful.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
And then what?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
keep going and then we went back to his house and I
fell asleep.
And then I woke up hours laterwith the world's worst headache
because I'd had so many shots.
And then I was like I have abrain tumor and it was like it
was excruciating, like now thatI'm looking I'm like, duh, you
were like hungover, it was likefrom alcohol, so then what?

(04:36):
Happened like why didn't he saythat?
And like I'm sure he did, Idon't know.
He drove me to the hospital well, you probably made him puking
in the waiting room and I waslike, and then I was puking in
the waiting room and I was likethe pain, no, I was puking
because of the alcohol and he'slike it smells like tequila.
And I was like, and then theylike did my brain scan and they
were like, yeah, no tumor, butyou need an IV.
It was the loser, it was soloser, mad at you.

(05:10):
Oh, my big trouble.
Yeah, all because you wentthrough, all because I went
through a breakup.
But that's real friendship ifyour friends aren't meeting you
at the bar, no, and going to thehospital for you.
You know, I mean, it deservessome sort of award.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, it's breakups are hard.
I also think, though after abreakup, I feel like you become
the like, a better version ofyourself.
You're like in fight mode, yeahlike you get like I'm new and
refreshed yeah, I'm working out.
I'm like a better version ofyourself.
You're like in fight mode yeah,like you get.
Like I'm new and refreshed,yeah, I'm working out.
I'm eating good, yeah, and I'mlike read.
I would read me, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
In high school.
I read anyways, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Not like the books I was reading.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah, like self-help yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I was like getting better myself and I remember in
high school I had a boyfriendeighth grade, ninth grade, 10th
grade and half of 11th grade allone boyfriend and when we broke
up it was so hard to go tosleep.
That was my first dabble inTylenol PM.
Yeah, because I couldn't go tosleep without talking to him at
night, because it was a habit.
Yeah, and like that's when youused to talk on the phone for

(05:59):
hours.
So I remember which is prettysmart for that young age to be I
was like make myself not talkto anyone because I have, like
guy friends I was gonna talk toin place of.
You know how you have the inplace of yeah, and I was like,
no, I need to learn to go tosleep by myself.
Yeah, and like so, like threeweeks were hard and then it got
better and then I think Istarted dating someone.
It's always like right, whenyou get it figured out, somebody
else comes in the way probablybecause, like you're confident

(06:21):
and but in college.
I kept trying to get it figuredout and I didn't.
Yeah, and it was no one good.
No one good was a suitor, no,but like in high school, it was
just oh, there was another one.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, we were talking to someone about breakups
recently and I feel like she wasdoing so good.
I'm like our kids nowadaysbetter than we were.
Yeah, because I feel like I wasvery weak, like it was go back
a million times like, like idiot.
You know she's doing amazing.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
And nowadays I'm like she's a jerky as well.
Yeah, you know who you are.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
You're handling it so good.
Yeah, and she's like strong.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
So strong.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm like I was not that strong in my 20s.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
She did text me last night.
That's funny.
You're saying I was going, whatthey like broke up, she's just
not talking.
I'm like, wait, what I was likecrying at the door like, ah,
you know, like against thewindow, no, I would cry bawling.
Please come over.

(07:14):
Yeah, I'll do anything you want, just come over.
Oh, shoot, just kidding, yeah,but kind of Like I was, so I was
a Christian and it wasn't verycool.
That sounds dumb.
I'm not saying Christian'strending, but maybe it's like a
very much more acceptable thing.
Like everybody always talksabout how bad this generation is

(07:35):
and I actually feel like theopposite.
I think kids are way betterthan they used to be in certain
aspects.
Like I had my first kiss superyoung, like seventh grade, and
now, like my daughter and herfriends, a lot of them haven't
kissed anyone and they're almostdone with their freshman year
and I was like everyone actslike they're so bad.
I don't think they're that bad.
Maybe it's my kids, I don'tknow, not my kids, but like who

(07:56):
we're around right now, maybethey're being better, but you
know, hudson's in seventh grade,not many people are kissing.
They go to church.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
They're wanting to do All their friends are at church
.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
They talk about God, they post about God.
I was strong in my faith, butnot like this.
I was not.
It's cool for Maddie, my oldest.
She goes to church with alltheir friends.
Sunday night is like hangoutnight.
You might have a bad weekend,but Sunday night you're going to
church, you're seeing everyoneat church, they're going to
McDonald's and Sonic and all thethings.
It's fun, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I do think the generation seems like good.
I mean sure there's.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, and there's social media in this.
Yeah, but like, thank God therewasn't social media.
My God, this one guy Flags haveto see you and he wasn't
answering the phone.
So then Jen and I decided tostill keep going.
He wanted to see me.
He didn't know, he wanted tosee me, but he wanted to see me,
yeah.
So then I see him out at thebar because there's like three

(08:54):
bars in Flag and like I saw himthere, did he ignore you?
He talked to me a little bit Iwouldn't say it's a lot, but was
like, oh, he's being shy, youknow, like he's scared.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
No one's scared.
Your friends bullcrap you withthis stuff and then I know he is
scared.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, they buy right in.
I heard it happening thisweekend.
I was talking to a bunch of ourgirls came over.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I feel like I've told people this recently that
they're just scared and I'm likemaybe they're not scared wait a
minute.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
You fell into it again yeah, like I feel like I'm
believing the scared.
I believe this scared.
Recently I've believed allkinds of things.
Yeah, you know I'm talkingabout, right, no, yeah, I'm like
holy.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm like having an epiphany right now.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I can tell by your camera like what's going on?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
yeah, they're not scared they're not.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
If they wanted to, they would.
I keep telling my daughtersthat if they wanted to, they
would.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
There's no, what if it's a?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
girl, a girl scared.
Does a girl get scared?
No, a girl gets scared.
Take me now.
Are you kidding what girl getsscared?
They don't get scared, they'reinto it.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, wow, yeah, they're not scared it's not the
one I've been giving reallywrong advice to who I'm.
Do you want me to say it?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, no, I'm having an epiphany.
Yeah, no, I agree, shoot, Iagree.
That's why, yeah, my advice islean the other way.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, I do think I did say that finally, but yeah,
shoot.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, it's enough now .
Yeah.
Yeah, if they wanted to, theywould both sides, yeah, and I
feel like I'm really genuinely,genuinely a good advice giver.
But maybe I'm like whoa, no, Ithink you're right and I think
on that one we're right.
But I remember we there was asex in the city episode which if
sex in the city wasn't around,I wouldn't have made it through

(10:31):
college like so good, it was sogood.
There's not a lot of shows withlike advice for these kids
there should be one.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
That was the best advice.
Maybe we should start actingmore in our podcast for these
kids you know, with the, I feellike I'm trying to do that.
Yeah, no yeah, I'm home, nexttime at my computer, you know,
maybe it made me stop yoursoulmate is just your.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
And I was like I couldn't help but wonder.
Yeah, you know, she always saidthat.
Yeah, she did, I love it.
I was like I couldn't help butwonder too, carrie, you know I
couldn't help but wonder whyhe's, you know, know, letting
that girl give him a blowjob andnot me, and not talking to me.
Yeah, I couldn't, I can'tbreathe, it's the same.

(11:11):
Yeah, remember, I couldn't helpbut wonder.
It's like, you know, I'm likeback in it.
Yeah, and I was believingeverything she said.
We should have named ourpodcast.
I.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Couldn't Help but Wonder, yeah, yeah, season four,
yes, might be.
Couldn't help but wonder.
I'm crying, but like it helpedme through so much.
The one where Carrie oh my gosh, and her hair and I was like I
have curly hair like Carrie, youknow.
Yeah, you did do that, yeah,and I feel like I am Carrie.
We all want to be Carrie.

(11:42):
But when she was like maybe Ijust need to wait for someone,
and she goes up to the horse Atthe end, it's like my favorite
episode and she's like maybe Ijust need to wait.
Oh, like she's a wild horse.
Yes, yeah, for someone thatdoesn't want to tame me, that's
wild enough to run with me.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, and I feel like Kyle guy I ever dated.
I had to change myself, mostlyto make them better, cause I had
to be like make them moreresponsible or make them make
better choices.
And Ben's the first guy I met.
I didn't have to change him atall, right, I just.

(12:14):
And then I could be more myselfbecause I didn't have to work
so hard at making him better.
Yeah, you know totally.
I feel like that's a good thing, like you don't change.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I tell the young girls that cause.
All of them are making excuses,cause I, I, you know, I coach,
I say this a lot.
And then Maddie has friends, sothey were over this weekend and
Kyle and I were like Carrie.
I couldn't help but wonder wewere telling him a lot of advice
.
Yeah, um, and there's this.
I've we've talked about thisbefore the talking stage.
The talking stage drives menuts because you're doing
nothing.

(12:44):
So, like some girls have beentalking for a year.
If you're talking for a year,that's horrible.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's just a way for the guy to get what he wants
with no commitment.
Yeah, and it's wrong Well hegets.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
keeps you from liking anyone else, Right.
Keeps you from dating.
That's what I'm saying he'sgetting all the benefits he
doesn't always get the sex hehe's getting, the better.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
I don't think they do all the sex totally, but he's
getting the benefits of havingthat person there and but
there's no commitment levelexactly, and that's, I feel like
, the problem with the societyand the online dating.
It's like it's taken out thecommitment of what relationships
should have.
They should have commitments.
Yeah, even you're talking, likewhen you're dating someone,

(13:26):
there is a commitment level.
Yeah.
So it's like, oh, we can't haveit.
Be dating, we need to go a stepless so that I can talk to
other people too.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Do whatever the heck I want.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
anyways, I'm going to make sure my boys are never
doing that.
Yeah, the talking.
No, we're not talking.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, would you know if they're talking?
Like, how do you If it's notlike fully committed?
Would we even know if they'retalking If they didn't tell us?
Hey?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm talking to Shirley?
Yeah, well, I would, because Ihave.
Well, I, you know, we look atthings, yeah, but I feel like if
one of my boys was talking tosomeone, what if they're?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
talking to like three people on Snapchat.
How would you know?
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Yeah, Like.
If you don't know, they've madethe talking official.
Is the talking official?
I don't know, I think some boysare talking to about 12 girls
right now and the girls don'tknow it.
Yeah, I feel like we know that.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, it's sad, but anyways, carrie, that's another
thing.
Snapchat.
It's like why do you need tohave something where no one can
see?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's weird, I know Well we know why you had it.
Yeah Well, we know.
Oh my gosh you guys.
Side note, I watched a fewdocumentaries on Sunday.
I was real tired from theweekend, so in her bed.
Didn't we talk about this?
No, I don't want to talk aboutit.
No, I want to tell it becausewe're always telling horrible
stories about me.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Like my husband takes his hand out of my shirt, like
all the horrible things I do,like I have shovies, like.
No, it's so rude.
Yeah, let's talk about youExactly.
No, so funny, wait time out.
My friend's husband texted mebecause we were going to go on a
hike and he had to skip the gymbecause we wanted to hike in
the morning.
And he said tell her to do hisshovies, like.

(15:04):
And she was like wait a minute,does he watch the podcast like
secretly?
she didn't know well, she hadtold him about shovies, but we
were laughing because it's likeguys do want a shovie, everybody
.
You know, I don't but they do.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Have you still been shoving, yeah, or did you switch
it up?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
no, you're still shoving yeah, shove, shoveroo,
you know, like chim chim tree Idon't know if melissa knows what
the chevy is.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I don't know.
The first edit of the chevy wasthe funniest thing we should
release that at some point, butwait so chevys is in the in
there no oh yeah guidees.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
We decided it should be called guidees, but I feel
like chubbies horrible I.
I can't believe we're back tochubby, I know so anyways um,
we're not the is, we're notmaking that a clip, so wait um.
So I like to lay in my bed.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, during the day it's so weird.
If I have a 15 minute window ofa break between things, I go in
my bed.
She doesn't sit on the couch,you know when you go home.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Thank you, you lay in your bed.
Yes, that's like I only lay inmy bed if I'm sick or I'm going
to bed.
Yes, yes, thank you, because,if I In the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Like do you shower?
Do you change out of yourregular clothes?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
She wears her Everyone's whacked about their
bed and the germs.
You didn't wash your hands foryears or brush your teeth, and
now you're a mis-germ.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I like a clean.
I don't like dirty things in mybed.
I like it very clean.
I like my pillow clean out ofthe shower, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, it's not that deep at my house it's like it's
not a big deal, but it's sofunny because Kyle gets so mad
about it.
Oh, he's so mad when I'm in thebed.
But what happens is, if I gosit on the couch, I look around
at all the things I need to doOkay, I can do dishes, I could
do laundry Whereas when you siton the couch, you don't worry
about those things.
I don't so.
So that's why Kyle doesn'tworry about those things.

(16:53):
Yeah, they're getting done.
But for me it's like in yourbed is a break when the kids
know if I'm in my break, so I'llhave a break.
Before cheer practice.
I'm in my bed.
That means this is a downtimefor me.
Don't ask me for something.
I'm in my bed, yeah, but thenlast night I had this thing.
Or the other night I was like,you know, I'm so sick of the
kids going to their room and I'mlike, well, it's because I do.
Yeah, so I gotta get out ofthere, you know?

(17:14):
So I well do they do the samething.
They go in their room.
Yeah, in their bed.
Yeah, everybody goes to theirbed.
Yeah, everybody goes to theirbed.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
The bed is so.
I can't even imagine being inmy bed in the middle of the day
if I wasn't sick, Like I trulycannot.
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Kyle too.
He doesn't go in the bed andit's like it's bright in there.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, no, it's not yeah, but like in my bed, Cool I
just can't picture it and, likewhen I'm laying down, I'm not
that comfortable.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
It's like See my I like don't feel rested unless I
lay down Like if I'm sittingit's like my feet still hurt
Really.
But my feet hang a lot likethis.
Yeah, so like the blood'srushing down to my feet, so like
the feet up, I gotta get myfeet up.
Yes, that's exactly what it is,and like it's weird, since bed
rest and stuff yeah, like Icouldn't put be sitting, yeah,

(18:03):
so I honestly think that's whereit started.
I was on bed rest twice, like Ihad to lay down all the time,
yeah, so like I'm not, likeright now I can't wait to get my
feet like level so that theblood's not rushing so
interesting.
So I learned when I get mycoffee in the morning, sometimes
I take it to the bed Stop.
Sometimes I take it to the bedStop.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
How do you even set it or drink it?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I set mine right here , I put pillows and I sit up how
do you?
And I'm in my bed drinking thecoffee that's Ben.
I didn't want to tell you.
I was like I'm not even tellingher.
I'm drinking my coffee in thebed.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think I've brought like food into the bed one time
and Ben almost like lost hismind he's.
And it wasn't like it was chips, you know.
It was like I think it was likea bar, yeah, and I was like I'm
having the bar in the bed.
It was like at night and I wasstill hungry, yeah, and he
couldn't get over it.
He was like what is going on?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, I had my coffee in my bed.
Thank you, melissa.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I wonder how many people go in the bed similar
personalities where we're on, on, on, on, go, go, go.
I got to like tap out.
That's like my tap out, yeah,and like like Sunday, that means
I'm really tired.
If I'm in the bed during theday with the blinds closed, that
means I'm not doing anythingfor you guys.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
No, everyone's like are you sick If I'm in the bed?
Yeah, really.
And I am sick.
Yeah, I can't believe it, Ican't imagine.
I don't think I'm that relaxedin my bed though it's not that
really like at night when we'rewatching our show, but like
during the day it's just notcomfortable.
I'd have to put pajamas on.
It would be like a wholetransition, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's not that deep in my house.
Yeah, a friend of mine taughtme it's not that deep, but like,
and I can't get over it.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I feel like the friend uses it in the correct
context.
I feel like you just use itanytime.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
It is not that deep, I'm all oh, the, the light's
green, she's all.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
it's not that deep.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Like right now, I just use it right, like the bed.
It's not that analytical.
At my house, we don't have toput pajamas on before we go in
the bed.
Yeah, and I'm still a cleanperson.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
You just have these weird rules at your house that
you would go in the bed when welived together.
Yeah, I would, totally.
Yeah, that made me.
He's like too clean.
Yes, it's like they're made up.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
You're sitting on the cover.
It's not like I'm rubbing myface against where I was sitting
during the day.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, I don't go in the bed.
Oh, like he sometimes won'teven go under the covers if he
like has a headache and he'smaybe not like showered.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, I'm on top of my covers.
I'm not in the bed.
I'm not in my sheets On top ofthe bed.
I'm top of the bed with like athrow blanket Interesting.
I'm not in my covers.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Ben does that sometimes when he has a headache
Unless.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I am like clean, I get that part, yeah, but to lay
on the bed I'm not rubbing myface on where I laid yeah, like
it's in the bed is one thing,yeah, but I'm on my bed with a
blanket.
Yeah, I'm not in the coversunless I'm changed in pajamas.
That's true, yeah, but likeit's not that deep, Like I'm not
analyzing if there's a germ onmy bed, like on my top of my bed
.
Yeah, that was the perfect.

(20:57):
I was setting up for SadieHawkins and I Tisha helped me do
like the table and I wanted ablack.
We wanted a white plate with ablack napkin right, and I was so
bugged that it was a whitenapkin and a fork and all white,
all white.
And I was like this is soannoying and my cousin was over
and she was helping me set upand she's like Crystal, it's on

(21:18):
the deep, yeah, and I likecouldn't get over it.
I was like you're so right,like it really isn't that deep,
like no one cares, yeah, so I'musing it all the time, like the
other day she was like I didn'tmean to email you.
I'm like, oh no, it's not thatdeep, I didn't think twice about
it.
Like it just is the perfectphrase.
Yeah, I can't get over it.
It's really.
Sometimes it is that deep, likesomething is more analyzed, but

(21:40):
this it's not that deep and Ido feel like you're an analyzer.
I am, it takes it away it's agood thing for you.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I feel like most things to me aren't that deep,
like I'm not over analyzing, soI analyze everything.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
So when someone tells me it's not that deep, I'm like
you're right, okay, yeah, andlet them Kyle, we started
reading let them yeah, I, youknow with you buy a book.
You can share it with yourfamily for free.
Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Did you know that?
Yeah, so like all the books Ibuy are Audible, I'm not sharing
the books I buy Ben will belike freak, yeah, but he's
actually.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
He doesn't like a lot of my other books.
He loves this one, yeah.
So Kyle keeps saying let themhave you read it yet feel like I
am, it's kind of like awkward,like the girl's bleeding out.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Let them.
Yeah, because you're alwayslike, I'm concerned.
Yeah, you're always like shouldI insert?
Myself.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yes, I want to insert a lot and I'm like no, let them
.
I am a let them.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I would say with my kids I'm not a let them, but the
rest of the world, I'm a letthem and I'm like kind of the
opposite.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I am a let them with my kids, but with the world I'm
not.
I'm very let them with my kids.
Yeah, but with the world I'mnot.
I'm very let them with my kids.
Yeah, yeah, weird, that isfunny.
Huh, I need to be more.
Let them with Kyle.
Yeah, kyle is so funny when helistens.
I got ripped on the podcastagain.
He's so funny, I'm not rippingyou, no, but we talked about
being a girlfriend last week.
Did he like that one?
He just listened to Trisha'sand loved it.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Okay, so he's like a week behind.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Loved it.
I've gotten a few more peoplereach out to me about Trisha's
this week.
They got caught up and he lovedthat one, but I was more of a
girlfriend.
But I'm learning that I don'tlet him as much Like I let
everyone, but I want to likecontrol him.
Yeah, I'm the controlling one.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Ben is not a let them .

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, he's a.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Mm-hmm and I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, kyle's controlling though, too, so it's
like that's probably ourproblem.
Maybe we're both likecontrolling Too much.
Yeah, mm-hmm, because he's likeremember the Easter basket.
Yeah, you need to order thekids something.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
It then just order it yourself.
Don't tell me what to do.
Yeah, I don't like being toldwhat to do.
The kids is the only thing.
I'm not a let them.
If it pertains to the kids, I'mlike Ben.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
But anything else.
I'm very left.
I'm like, whatever you know.
Yeah, that's interesting, Iknow I wonder why.
Okay, so Tisha got me intospeaking of date nights, got me
into Tulsa King.
Have you seen it yet?
So it is so good.
I feel like it's such anunderrated show.
I know, Because like the wordTulsa it's like man titles are
so important though.
Titles are important, we justtalked about this because we
just all of a sudden, are caringabout our podcast titles so

(24:12):
we're like titles are soimportant, Like I skimmed
through podcasts to pick a titleand the title of Tulsa King
didn't.
I was like't care about Tulsa,no and I, if it was like New
York City King.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I'd be like yes.
Or like mobster king, oh yeah.
Or like big daddy, yeah, you'reall big wait.
Remember when we were namingthe podcast and we had that one
raunchy name.
I can't never mind raunchy ohnothing.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I'm we almost called it dirty, was it?
I'm so full I can't breathe.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, that was almost a name, because that's like a
saying we use.
I still like that.
If we ever write a book, we'renaming it that.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, because you know when you eat too much you
are so full you can't breathe.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, and that's like us.
Yeah, one more drink orsomething drinking around?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, and we don't even drink.
Pour me a drink.
Yeah, we don't drink.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
So we were like that's weird, it's dumb.
Yeah, I'm going to pour me asparkling water, you know, do
you have the sparkling water?
Yeah, chris always makes fun ofme because she says I go well,
because sometimes when I saysparkling from the gun, I don't
want a club soda from the gun, Iwant a Pellegrino or a.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Topo Chico.
Why don't you say that then?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, I do so.
She makes fun of me because Igo do you have a sparkling water
like?

Speaker 1 (25:26):
a Pellegrino.
Do you have a?
There's a long pause, sparklingwater like a.
Pellegrino, it's like 12phrases of a Well cause.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
sometimes they have a Perrier or a Topo Chico.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
You're fine with all of those, though yes, do you
have a bottled sparkling water?
Oh, that's what I can say, yeahyeah, it doesn't need to be so
sparkling water.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, because that's where I struggle.
Yeah, I don't want, because Idon't mind the soda water oh, I
hate the soda water and they'relike, yeah, I'll bring, and then
they bring it out and I alwaysknow, because it's like yeah, I
don't mind that at all.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, I don't mind any sparkling water.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's what I say you're like if they get it out
of the toilet and they add theinfused water as long as they
lay in their bed.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Dirty, we're fine, it's fine, no I don't mind that.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I want a bottled sparkling.
That's what you need to say.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
That's what I'm gonna say bottled sparkling water we
don't need this long a the.
Uh, I don't do this.
Yeah, you do you.
I can't.
We're going to lunch, we'regetting to sparkling water.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, now I have a complex about it.
Now I'm all.
Do you have a Pellegrinosparkling water?
Because she's made me soinsecure about it.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well, I don't know.
You know what you want?
Just say a Perrier or a TopoChico.
It's not like that yeah, you.
Just I'm having so manyepiphany today.
It's not like a Rumbleman, yeah, that's like so hard to think.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, I doubt the competency of the server to know
what a Pellegrino is.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
So then just tell them yes.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
So now I'm going to say do you have a bottled
sparkling water, pellegrino,topo, chico, whatever?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
You don't need to list them oh.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I'm getting crazy.
Let them.
You don't let them.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I'm not letting them.
When it affects me, I'm notletting them do the job.
That's the thing.
Do you have a?
Let's say a?
It always is like a 12 beforesparkling water.
Like sparkling water is theweirdest thing You've made me
insecure.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, do you have a bottled sparkling water?
That's what I'm going to askfor now.
Yes, do you have, and doesn'the?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
have a, do you guys have?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
bottled sparkling water.
That Perfect, yeah, yeah, andnot give examples.
No, they don't need examples,but sometimes I doubt that the
server knows that it's at thebar.
You know, like that's my, Ihave a problem.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I always doubt.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
You never believe anyone.
I doubt people so much it's sad.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm like they're liars.
They're wrong.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
She thinks everybody's liars but she's
usually right, or I think theyLike if I ask someone at a store
.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
What does the long pause do for them?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
But if I ask someone at a store, hey, do you have
this in the back?
And they're like no, I'm likewell, it says online you have
three.
It's like go back there andcheck.
I doubt their like competency.
It's like a problem.
Do you doubt my competency?
I don't feel like I doubt yourcompetency for like work, work's
the only.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You don't doubt.
No, I don't doubt it forcoaching.
No, if I was like, hey, I justbooked for Hawaii, I booked the
Hyatt, you'd be like, no, youdidn't.
I'd probably be like, send methe reservation.
Yeah, where did you book?
You probably booked in Tulsa.
I'd probably double check it.
Yeah, Back to Tulsa King though.

(28:18):
Oh yeah, let's talk, watch it.
I'm laughing.
I'm laughing.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I'm scared, I'm like emotions.
He's my dad.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
He is.
First of all, he's very goodlooking, so good looking.
I get why the lady's sleepingwith him when she shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I know when she's like how old are you?
Because he's Italian, they'remassive.
When she's like how old are you?
And he was like 75.
I was like that's crazy.
Have you seen his wife in real?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
life.
No, oh, his reality show,sylvester Stallone, is adorable.
Old school Kardashians thepurest, innocentest adorable
family.
Oh, that's cute.
He's the boss he makes his kidsbox and she's like he made them
box.
She lets him, yeah, she letshim, yeah, let them.
She lets him, boss, he travels.
She's adorable, literallyadorable.

(29:00):
Sweet as pie.
Tiny.
You would love her.
She's really good looking forlike an older good looking the
kids are good.
Looking.
They're tough.
They're hard on the kids.
Yeah, he's like I'm not risensome.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, I like the way he talks, even though it's kind
of like what is he saying?
Did you have a stroke, but it'sgood still like when he walks
with his suit.
He reminds me of my dad so much, and he's got and I think he's
really short in real life but hehas like a strut and the way
they film it.
He doesn't look short but he'sso.
Oh he's so like yeah, he's so,and I usually like the younger,
you know, and I'm like, hey,maybe I'd go up to 75.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
You're married?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
No, I'm not thinking about it Like you know, like
really thinking about it JustSomewhat thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
No, just like she didn't want to have her tubes
tied in case Ben died so shecould have another family.
That's thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
No, yes, all I said was yes.
You hear those freak storieswhere?
Like everybody, no, so you werejust saying to, so I'm supposed
to be alive with all my familygone and I can't have any more
family.
It's horrible.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
It doesn't replace them.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
No, but now I've moved on from that.
I got them tied and it's fine,Thank you.
Thank you, no, but in the showwhat I love is the entrepreneur
in me is like he is a littleillegal.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
He's killing people and it's mafia and drugs, but
it's fine, he's an entrepreneur.
And and drugs, but it's fine,he's an entrepreneur.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
And threatening he's all you're going to give me 25%
for no reason and they're likeokay, I'm like, should I get 25%
?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Tyler, get in here You're going to give me 25% from
now on.
He'd be like get the hell outof here.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, but I'm giving him 25%.
Oh, it's so good.
Everybody's giving him 25% andhe, like, creates something out
of nothing.
It's so intriguing.
Oh, it's so good oh it's sogood he like becomes the king of
.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Tulsa Like yeah, see, I'm only Like I'm stressing
he's not gonna make it as theking of Tulsa right now.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
What episode are you on?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Oh, my God he just killed that guy put his face on
the thing for doing something tohis daughter.
Oh yeah too.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh, I love it.
I love all the mob.
They're like we have a sit down.
I'm like I'm going to tell mykids where I'm going to sit down
, you know, like it's like wherethe mobsters meet and no one
can kill anybody and they have asit down and talk.
And now I'm going to be like Ihaven't seen this.
Oh, my family, when we're, Ilove that.
You're like that.
My mom used to do that.
Yeah, I do all those weirdthings.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Did you have family meetings growing up?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
No, never, Really no.
That's why we have them now.
And then they know oh, mom'sgoing to go on a tangent.
You know what does Ben do whileyou're doing it?
Yeah, he's talking, I'm alllike.
He's like.
It's like, you know, whensomeone is like trying to

(31:47):
piggyback and they go in thewrong way, wrong, he's all and
you know when I was younger, andI'm like this is nothing to do
with what we're talking about.
I'm talking about no one'sfeeding the dogs, no one's
picking up the dog, and thenhe's all.
When I was younger and I playedbaseball and I'm all what it
it's like, so I'm all you know.
Does he stop?
Well, so I'm all and I'm allwell anyways, and then I like

(32:08):
cut him off and he's like yeah,you know, it's so funny, it's
bad.
No, he doesn't.
Sometimes he's just like, yeah,he's all.
You know, your mom and I wewish we had parents that.
Did you know that's cute.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's like what are you talking about?
I feel like Kyle's more.
You too, I'd probably go on thetangent yeah, yeah, kyle does
good with the talk.
He's really good, like ifthere's something going on and
he's going to have a talk, he'sreally good at it.
Yeah, I might go on and on.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, way too long have to catch it before I'm
freaking out, because that'swhen it's like scary tangent
another documentary.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I we haven't talked about this stuff in a while, but
I haven't gotten to get all myopinions out.
The OJ documentary ismind-blowing oh yeah, it's so
bad.
Yeah, I was young, so Iremember the glove and like I
remember the high-speed chase.
Everybody remembers where theywere when he's all oh, oh, it
doesn't fit.
Is that what he did?
Yeah, oh, you should hear howit all went down.
It was clear day must acquit,remember.
The glove doesn't fit.
Is that what he did?
Yeah, oh, you should hear howit all went down.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
It was clear as day it doesn't fit Must acquit.
Remember the glove doesn't fit,must acquit.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
You know no, what's that yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
that was like the saying because it didn't fit, so
you've got to set him free theyfound the glove.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Quit, not quit.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I'll quit.
Yes, so they were like becausethe glove didn't fit him, but it
did.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
And then, um yeah, oh , it's like me when I'm like
trying to put my pants on.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
You know, after like a bad weekend that was really
good.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
But there was another .
Oh, there was the influencer onNetflix about a momager with
these kids on YouTube.
Another one, another one,another one, and it's bad.
It's so bad.
There was like the squad.
I've never seen these kids, butI'm sure my kids know who they
are.
Yeah, so she tried to get her,like daughter, to be famous.

(33:47):
She was famous, like onsingingly Singingly, remember
that app?
Musically, musically.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
It started there.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, so it started there.
She was famous.
She was like she was like adancer, a pageant girl.
Then the mom started likemanaging the squad and she would
find that like when there wasmore kids, you got more like
views and then you'd share eachother just like they do.
Yeah, um, so then she wouldmake them like kiss and like
have fake relationships and thenin the night she would crawl in

(34:13):
their room Like it got dark.
It was crazy what, yeah, it'scalled social influence or
something Really, but it's crazylike how the filming was like 7
to midnight, like they wouldfilm all day long and like we
talked about this last weekbecause I was just listening
this morning.
Yeah, about my Brooke Ray birdor whatever.
Yeah, and I'm like, picture thetripod.
I'm like it changes the wholething.

(34:34):
Yeah, I fall right into itwhere you're watching these kids
and I'm like, oh, it's so real.
It's not real.
No, and I feel like thereshould be some sort of like laws
that protect children.
That's what they're, they're sothey're suing the mom and
they're like this is like thewild, wild west.
There's no laws on this.
Because it's like a newer thing.
Yeah, like it's new, like theydidn't have breaks.
They didn't have like lunch.

(34:54):
You know, like at a normal jobyou have like rules in place and
these kids didn't have rules inplace.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
And they're being forced to work because it's like
their parents.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
They're providing for their whole parent's paycheck.
It's crazy, like they're payingthe bills, yeah.
So then she got kicked off ofYouTube because the lawsuit
which is good that YouTube, onceyou have like negative
publicity, you can't make moneyanymore.
So then they put her on thisother site called my brand,
where my I've never heard of it,but it's like, it's really

(35:26):
scary.
It's like, um, what's that onewe always joke about?
Only fans?
Yeah, it's for 18 and under.
It's like my brand or my story,so the name sounds okay, but
it's all like for younger girlsdoing like I'm so thirsty, you
know like, but it's not like.
You know.

(35:46):
It's not like inappropriate,but it's inappropriate, oh my
God.
And it's all like pedophiles onthere and they make a lot of
money.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
That should be illegal.
I'm like, like are you tryingout though, like are you on, and
it's not illegal?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
make that illegal and it's not illegal.
So the mom couldn't pay thebills because she they got
kicked off.
So they got desperate andthey're on this, yeah, but it's
not like.
It's not like they're doingonly fans things.
But yeah, that's what thosepredators like is the girls
being girls, do you get what Imean?
Like they're a little bit more.
And then there was this guythat would send them stuff and

(36:18):
he was called like Poppy Iforget the name, yeah, and
they'd be like Poppy's on thephone and the girl would have to
talk to him and he would sendthem like things.
It was bad.
That's crazy.
It was bad, it was so bad.
Yeah, crazy documentary.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I'm like really all ends of the spectrum, this
weekend.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, yeah, but it was about like a tornado years
ago.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
It was crazy.
Tornadoes really freak me outbecause they come so quickly.
I know you say that about Kyle,but I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
It was just like an awkward pause.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I felt wrong after I said it.
No, they form so quickly andthey I can't get it out of my
head now.
Yeah, they show up out ofnowhere and so it's.
There's not a lot of time tolike prepare and get safe, so I
could never live in a place withtornadoes and they're so
powerful.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, these people were pulled up in the thing?
No, yeah, and they survived.
It was crazy, this one kid.
When they found him, his heartwas exposed, so much had taken
off his chest, and then therewas like a fungus from all the
ground being pulled up.
Oh yeah, like he had like aflesh-eating virus, that they
had to cut him up and like nowhe has four kids.
I love seeing like weird thingshappen and then you see the

(37:37):
success of it inside out like itwas crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh my gosh.
I read the craziest story.
It just reminded me of thatbecause I was thinking, oh god,
like saved him.
This craziest story was thisguy I want to find it.
He survived a plane crash whenhe was younger with his like
tennis team.
He was like he was on like atravel tennis yeah, and he
before the plane.
He was going to like atournament tennis yeah, and he
before the plane.
He was going to like atournament.
And before the plane happenedhe told his mom he had a dream

(38:00):
that the plane was going tocrash.
Oh gosh.
And he told his mom I had thatdream Remember, over the ocean.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Ew, don't say that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Ew.
I've been telling you about it.
And so the mom goes oh, it'sjust a dream, it's no big deal.
So he gets on the flight andhe's on the flight and he's a
kid, and he they're in the airand he goes to the bathroom to
go use the restroom and Godtells him the plane's going to
crash, don't buckle yourseatbelt.
And he, like it's crazy, causeyou know, like stories in the

(38:29):
Bible, it's all God said.
And like now, when I hearthings come in my head sometimes
I'm like is that me?
Is that God?
Like how do you know?
But I think maybe, if you know,you know so maybe just hasn't
happened to me.
So God literally said don't putyour seatbelt on.
So he walks back and he sitsdown and the plane crash and he,
because he didn't have aseatbelt on, he didn't buckle
his seatbelt, he is was like theonly survivor.

(38:57):
He was ejected from the planeand landed like miles away in
like a field and he lived andit's crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
It's.
You would have been bucklingyour thing so tight too.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I don't know if God fully said that to me, though I
would listen.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
But what do you think when you're squeezing your
seatbelt so tight on the plane?
Oh, I squeeze it so tight, like.
But I'm being honest, if theplane goes down that seatbelt,
I'm going to help you?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
No, it just makes me feel more secure.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
You know, no, I feel like God's told me things all
the time Randomly like that,like even dumb things like call
Shirley right now, and I'm likewhy should I call Shirley?
Call her, she's crying.
I'm like, whoa, that was realand what.
I have that all the time.
I used to have that a lot atnight.
Call your dad.
I even had that the nightbefore my dad died and I like

(39:39):
had a feeling, yeah, of likeI've talked about it, where I
saw mom and dad calling on thething and I was like tomorrow
I'm going to spend the whole daywith them.
I just had a weird feeling,yeah, and I knew I needed to go
on that trip.
I knew I needed to go early.
Remember, kyle was mad.
I just knew, yeah, like I feellike I have that a lot.
I wonder the times we didlisten or didn't listen, you

(39:59):
know it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, I don't feel like I have that a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Really no, that's because you think you're you're
gone Know everything.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah Well, I hear myself.
No, you don't ever hear that.
I mean, I've had things happenwhere I'm like oh, I should do
that, but not like don't buckleyour seatbelt.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
See, I've had moments like that totally.
No, never Like don't go in thatcar.
I have a bad feeling, but see.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I have those bad feelings a lot, so if I listened
every time I had that badfeeling, it'd be every time I
fly.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Oh, when we get on a plane.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I mean so no, but like specifics like don't do
this or like don't.
I've had many of those things,yeah weird.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Maybe I need a.
Maybe the lines clogged.
You know where did you readthat story?
Is it a movie or like?
No, it was on like um people orsomething.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I'm gonna find it.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, that's interesting it was so crazy.
I shared it with my kidsbecause I was like you gotta
listen to God when you get thatfeeling.
Did you have a family meetingabout it?
No, but I should.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, I was like you got to listen to God when you
get that feeling.
Did you have a family meetingabout it?
No, but I should.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, I feel like that's something I would have a
family meeting about.
And um, and I did tell I thinkI told Bear the story and I'm
pretty sure I told him all.
But I know for sure I told Bearbecause I remember he was so
into it.
He was like then what happenedyou know, oh, bear yeah remember
, oh God on the plane he flies,just like tisha I love bear
because he's just like the one Ican tell things to and he
really like listens and my otherkids are like, yeah, yeah,

(41:20):
mom's doing this again, you know, yeah, but he really is into it
, he like asks questions, helike really pays attention and I
was like that gut feeling isgod, yeah, if you get that, you
know, yeah, I'm gonna link itfor the jerkies if they want to
read it.
Yeah, that's that's really good, it was crazy.
Yeah, I'm sure I got some of thedetails messed up, but I know
the seatbelt oh, I feel likeit's pretty real.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
that's crazy.
Yeah, I do have those moments,but I do learn.
The more time I don't spend inquiet with God, the harder it is
for me to hear him.
That's like my big thing withlike walking, like I'm trying to
like work out a little hardersince the NCAA and maybe God's
trying to tell you something, soI'm trying to ride, bike and
get my heart rate up a littlehigher.
But I really enjoy walkingbecause I like it's quiet time

(42:01):
where nothing's distracting me.
Yeah, and I can like hear andpray and like get in line with
him.
And I think sometimes the devilkeeps us so busy where we don't
have time to ever hear him.
Yeah, or like we think we knowmore than what he's leading Like
.
Sometimes you have to we talkedabout this recently about some
decisions you're trying to make.
Sometimes it's hard to just sitin a pause and wait for God to
like tell you what to do, yeah,or like wait for the door to

(42:23):
unfold, but then just like thatcoach story we've told this
before of like you're like, andI feel like this might be
happening right now, but we'renot seeing it yet when yet?
When you were like when we wereyoung, tisha called me and she
was frustrated about, like, whatto do with her life.
She's like I'm just frustrated.
What to do?
I'm praying, I'm going tochurch, nothing's happening,
yeah.
And five minutes before shetold me how her dad said her
dad's friend called her to workat coach.

(42:43):
And I was like wait, fiveminutes ago you just said that
someone called you from coach towork for you because your dad
set it up.
She's like I'm not sellingpurses, yeah, and I like, but
you're asking God to do it andhe's showing up and you're
missing it Totally Because youthink you're God.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
And then because you talked to me, I ended up working
there.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
And it was a great thing.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I was a manager for like five years.
It was a totally like greatexperience.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
And I feel like in the other thing, you keep
running into certain people andyou're like I don't know what
God wants us to, but you're likenot seeing it.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
It's like that thing where it's like God sent a sign,
the boop, Not that sign.
You know the next sign.
Have you heard that boat one,yeah, and he's like God.
Why are you forsaking me?
And he's like I sent you 10boats, you know?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like that happens with you
sometimes.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
But like it's not, it's hard for me.
So I do feel like when I'mreading the bible, I do feel
like I am very connected to God.
Obviously it's his word, so youknow.
But I do feel like when Ibecause I try to read it you
know at least a little bit.
You know at least a few times aweek, and I do feel like when
I'm reading I, I get thosemoments and something will come

(44:01):
out to me and I'll be likeduring none yes, it like
correlates it.
Yes, and I'm like oh, you'refeeling like you're hearing from
him, from him, and I knowbecause it's the word.
It's true, because sometimesit's hard, I mix.
Well, you think everyone'slying?
Yeah, is it me, is it?
And I don't trust myself.
Yeah, it's like I think everyplane's crashing.
Clearly, it hasn't crashed yet,so it's hard to know.
I know what is from me, what'smade up, you know totally.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I think that's from your childhood of like always
depending on only you, yeah,where it's hard for you to
depend on something you can'teven see.
You know totally.
Yeah, it's deep, it's gettingdeep not that deep, it's not
that deep, but this is gettingthat deep.
Yeah, have you watched theKardashians?
I haven't watched it, but I ranout of things so I was watching
it and like, um, I was.
They were talking aboutcounseling.
I guess Khloe's going now andKim started to go finally, and

(44:47):
it's like I can already tellthey're better because of it and
I'm like, when you've beenthrough all those things, why
weren't you going to like?
But I think Kim thought sheknew everything, yeah, but like
she was working herself into adisease to fill up a void.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
And now she's like being more normal and I'm like
that's so cool that you finallyare figuring it out.
Yeah, and Chloe too, likeyou've had a lot of bad things
happen to you, totally Like withmen, yeah, yeah, so she's like
finding out why she's the wayshe is and it's like so
intriguing, whereas likeCourtney's super healthy right
now with like her relationshipsand happiness.
Like she's like literally, I'mlike she really likes Travis,

(45:23):
like I've never seen something.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
It's a lot of making out hard it's, it's different
for me.
I don't, because I feel likeBen and I are affectionate but
we're not shoving throats eacheach other's tongues you're not
a kisser, though.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
No see, I am a kisser .
She doesn't kiss, she does that.
Yeah, yeah, like a peck, youdon't like suck his lip wait
what?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
no, oh yeah, one time he got back from a trip and we
were I'm sitting at thesidelines of Fox's football game
and he was gone for like threeor four days in a work trip.
And so he's running up to coachand he's like hi, honey, and he
bends down to give me a kissand I'm like literally in front
of the whole football team and Iwent like this, like for him to
give me a kiss on the cheek,and he was so offended and like

(46:05):
we had a whole talk about it.
He's like don't ever not kissme.
I'm like what do you want me tolike, you know, like it's just
the weirdest thing, like I don'twant to kiss you in front of
all these people.
It was just kind of I don'tknow yeah, I'm not a big, like
public, yeah.
So I was like that and he got,so like he was, I was like it's
just not that deep, you know see, yeah, because it wasn't that

(46:27):
deep.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
He thought, yeah, it wasn't, I just was like, yeah,
get over there and coach.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Why are you kissing me?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
you know that's what I was thinking, but you don't
tongue kiss ever sometimes, ifwe're in a mood you don't not on
the regular, no see, I yeah,but I still don't make out in
front of kids no, the kids is infront of the kids is weird.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Like ben will grab my butt and she'll be like
straddling him.
Yeah no, I just feel like it'svery, it's a long kiss, it's
like it's not a quick.
Yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
But she really is so happy with him.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'm happy for her.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Chloe met up with Lamar.
I saw that and it was sadseeing them before and it was
sad.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
She said they had a lot.
Did you watch the episodes likethe source for the whole family
?
Yeah, it's sad.
I don't get the Chris and Coreything, do you?
I mean, unless it's just the Idon't know it's weird, but I did
feel sad for Lamar.
I could honestly feel thatfeeling.
She felt me too.
It's just too far gone.
Too far gone, yeah, and theyare not too far gone.
Oh, I've had that.
I was like get back with him, Iknow.
But I could feel I know she waslike how she felt where you're
almost like pity yeah them.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, get backwith him, I know.
But I could feel exactly howshe felt when you're almost like
pity them.
I'm like, oh, I've had that,like it's crazy.
I agree, it was so relatable.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
It was relatable, yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
She seems like a really good person, chloe.
Yeah, I feel like of all ofthem, she seems like the nicest.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I didn't mean to judge, but did you watch her
recorder podcast?
No, not that we're the podcastQueens, but I was like we've got
to relax.
Oh, she's like nervous, oh sonervous, and I'm like just talk.
I mean not like we, we made it,but like I just think it's
relatable.
Hopefully that we don't know,we don't have it all planned and
it's not like, yeah, soscripted.
That's what we hope I don't know.
But speaking of Tisha, we arenot quitting still, but a lot of

(48:14):
you have sent nice messages tous.
It really helps.
The bear story last week wasreally funny.
I mean I thought it was funnywhen it was happening, but I've
listened to it twice alreadybecause it's pretty funny.
Yeah, but thank you for thatand thank you for those of you
that have shared recently.
A lot of you have done that.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
That's really nice yeah, and leave reviews.
Any of that, we really aregrateful.
Yeah, finally, no, I don'treally listen to the podcast
ever and I listened to lastweek's because I was like just
listening and making somechanges and I was dying laughing
.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm sofunny.
But like, not me, but like I'mlike the podcast is so funny.

(48:51):
I call crystal, like, hey, Ifound this new great podcast and
it's ours.
She's like I told you it's good.
I'm like it's so good.
It has like funny humor, it haslike the hard moments and it
has like advice.
And then it has like just dumbstuff, I don't know.
It has it's like allencompassing.
So I'm like, oh, it's such agood podcast.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
It's like you know I've said that before and you're
like it's relatable becauseit's you.
Yeah, I did say that.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
But are we going to go to brunch?
Oh my God, we're doing thisagain.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
I think you've perked up.
I don't think I can havealcohol.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I have a bad headache .
I need some Advil Dang it.
I was hoping we did yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
We went to Chino Bandito last week.
I could maybe go there.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
All right.
Well, let's go somewhere goodwith an espresso mardini.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Maybe that'll help with the headache.
You know the caffeine.
We'll see All right.
All right, thanks for listening.
Have a good week.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you, and Crystal makes fun of methe whole time, and it's great
and Take care.